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The United States is going to "finalize" the stealth destroyers Zumwalt due to the discrepancy between the dimensions of the launch cells and promising hypersonic missiles

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The United States continues to make efforts to determine the optimal destination for its ultra-expensive Zumwalt-class stealth destroyers. To date, there are two of them in the US Navy, one more is on the way, in addition to this, it is planned to commission another such warship. This is despite the fact that initially the program envisaged the construction of 32 "Zamvolts". But when it turned out that each would cost more than $ 4 billion in total, they decided to revise the program.


Now there is speculation about what weapons should be used on ships of this type. If, according to the initial plans, it was even supposed to install a ship's electromagnetic gun, then later this idea was abandoned. At the moment, it turned out that the only weapon, which is used by these destroyers in test mode with a few exits to the sea, is the 30-mm ship's cannon. This fact irritates Americans, who do not understand what billions of dollars have been spent on.

Now there is information that as soon as the US Navy will receive ship-based hypersonic missiles, they should immediately be installed on the Zamvolta. At the same time, here it is not without difficulties. The hypersonic missiles being developed in the United States, as it turned out, do not correspond to the dimensions of the cells of vertical launchers. In this regard, it is proposed to "revise the weapons of the destroyers."

In particular, the following idea was put forward regarding the placement of promising hypersonic missiles: to carry out a "revision of the space for naval weapons." In other words, it is proposed to actually rebuild part of the Zumwalt so that the promising missiles would be consistent with the dimensions of the launchers. In particular, a discrepancy in diameter is indicated. For missiles under development, it is 34 ½ inches.

If so, then the cells themselves, in which the missiles are going to be placed, will undergo "restructuring" first. At the same time, the configuration of the missile destroyers' fire control system will also have to be "refined", for which they have already spent tens (if not hundreds) of millions of dollars.

On March 18, the US Navy decided to submit a request to the industrial sector on the subject of how this problem could be solved by "modifying" the stealth destroyers.

How much the implementation of such a program will cost, the US Navy has not yet said.

Recall that a few days earlier, stealth destroyers passed seaworthiness tests. They were deemed successful. It was noted that the wave height "reached 6 m". It is strange that these tests are carried out after the introduction of warships into service with the US Navy.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 20 March 2021 06: 12
    +8
    It also needs to be able to independently dive to a depth of 300 meters, swim sideways at full speed, enter the afterburner planing mode - how much money can you put in your pockets for the implementation of all my proposals? ?? belay
    1. knn54
      knn54 20 March 2021 09: 28
      +1
      He is already a "super destroyer". And now also restless
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 20 March 2021 10: 06
        0
        Quote: knn54
        He is already a "super destroyer". And now also restless

        It would be interesting to see the confrontation between the super destroyer and the 77-year-old Missouri
  2. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 20 March 2021 06: 12
    +3
    Saw Shura Saw! We will turn on the machine and print $ as much as we need. This is the whole point of "saving" everyone the obviously failed project.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 20 March 2021 06: 18
      +3
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Saw Shura Saw!

      Russia can help.
      We can sell the file.
      For finishing.
      Expensive!!!
      Highly!
      1. spech
        spech 20 March 2021 08: 08
        0
        What kind of files there are "high technologies", only nail files.
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 20 March 2021 08: 17
          +1
          Quote: spech
          What kind of files there are "high technologies", only nail files.

          Нет!
          File.
          Dro ... brawny!
          As a bonus, a rasp and an ax.
          The iron is equal.
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  3. Asad
    Asad 20 March 2021 06: 12
    +5
    Yes, you sell it to Ukraine, a great maritime power, will be able to bring it to mind!
  4. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 20 March 2021 06: 15
    +4
    The hypersonic missiles being developed in the United States, as it turned out, do not meet the dimensions of the vertical launch cells. In this regard, it is proposed to "revise the weapons of the destroyers."
    Good news, "Zamvolt" is a zamvolt, but all destroyers have the same internal dimensions of the cells of the airborne bombardment! So the Merikatos have a pretty good hemorrhage!
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 20 March 2021 15: 21
      +1
      Good news, "Zamvolt" is a zamvolt, but all destroyers have the same internal dimensions of the cells of the airborne bombardment!

      You are wrong. Zamvolta has completely different cells.
      More than the Mk 41, which is on all other ships.
      4-element Peripheral Vertical Launch System (PVLS) Mk-57
      Module:
      Width: (2,21m / 7,25ft)
      Length: (14,2 ft / 4,33 m)
      Height: (26ft / 7,93m)
      Weight: (33600 lbs / 15240 kg)
      Max. width of TPK: (28 inches / 0,71 m)
      Max. TPK length: (283 inches / 7,18 m)
      Max. Curb weight: (4091 kg)

      https://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Mk-57-missile-launcher.htm
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 20 March 2021 15: 52
        +1
        Quote: Alex777
        More than the Mk 41, which is on all other ships.

        You write like this is bad laughing
        So hemorrhoids for the overwhelming mass of USS will be even bigger!
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 20 March 2021 15: 57
          +2
          You write like this is bad

          No. I'm just glad that they are going to develop more serious missiles, and the reduction in the number of Zamvolts from 32 to 3 made the idea meaningless. bully
          That is why they want to shove new missiles into Zamvolty, tk. there are more cells.
          So hemorrhoids for the overwhelming mass of USS will be even bigger!

          Truly so. wink
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  6. Kapkan
    Kapkan 20 March 2021 06: 24
    +2
    Start small. Create and modify crutches.
    Or put the brains on your Boston Dynamics leader or something ...
  7. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 20 March 2021 06: 26
    +1
    It's good to be the master of the printing press, you can afford such life-size experiments.
  8. Cowbra
    Cowbra 20 March 2021 06: 42
    +10
    Well, you are surprised that their president is crazy. The country is so laughing LCS, F-22, F-35, Zumwalt x 3, Gerald Ford x 2, where you don't spit is a complete mess, a madhouse and a sawmill.
    There is such a thing, artificial ventilation of the lungs during resuscitation is done either "mouth to mouth" or "mouth to nose". If the Pentagon had done it, they would have made it "anus to anus", and they would have spent 10 defense budgets of the Russian Federation on developing the concept
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 20 March 2021 09: 30
      +3

      Cowbra
      Today, 06: 42
      NEW
      +2
      Well, you are surprised that their president is crazy. The country is so laughing LCS, F-22, F-35, Zumwalt x 3, Gerald Ford x 2, where you don’t spit - a complete mess, a madhouse and a sawmill.
      There is such a thing, artificial ventilation of the lungs during resuscitation is done either "mouth to mouth" or "mouth to nose". If the Pentagon had done it, they would have made it "anus to anus", and they would have spent 10 defense budgets of the Russian Federation on developing the concept
      hi ! admirers for this gland will begin to minus you. For them, who bought this iron trash, there is only one thing left - to prove to the foam about his "omnipotence". wink
  9. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 March 2021 07: 14
    0
    The United States is going to "finalize" the stealth destroyers Zumwalt due to the discrepancy between the dimensions of the launch cells and promising hypersonic missiles
    fool Yes, crabs have been waiting for him for a long time ... repeat
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  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 March 2021 07: 45
    +1
    And in such a storm, Zumwalts can be at sea, there is no talk of completing a combat mission. By the way, such storms are common in NEA.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 20 March 2021 10: 10
      +3
      Admirers of Zumwalt, I have not yet laid out the Dropner wave. And it was 32 meters. So our fisherman's wheelhouse was displaced and all the lumikas on the bridge were thrown out. I personally went on an "excursion" on this steamer. Lucky, the cap kept the steamer with its bow on the wave.
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 20 March 2021 12: 24
        +2
        Zumwalt has a displacement of 14,5-14,8 thousand tons. Still, he is less afraid of waves than various trifles.
        This is a hairpin for our supporters of small (1-2 thousand tons) ships.
        Here you need to urgently transfer the Karakurt, and in the ocean - this is ..
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 20 March 2021 12: 56
          +1
          The Karakurt can be easily thrown along the rivers. With an increase in size, you can run into the wavelength. In any case, in such a storm it is no longer before the war. I have the last fisherman 9260 tons of displacement and then in such a storm the head of the legs. Berks and Tikanderogs are suitable for the north, and this yacht with a bare forecastle is not very good, until the first good wave through the tank. Catch artillery mounts in the superstructure.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 20 March 2021 13: 08
            +2
            Karakurt is easily thrown along the rivers.

            For example, from the Black Sea or Northern fleets to the Pacific? smile
            If your displacement is 8-15 times more, there are significantly fewer restrictions on the use of weapons. For the same Karakurt, EMNIP - 3 points. And any PL will eat it for breakfast, but he won't even know (I mean the presence of GAS and TA).
            but this yacht with a bare forecastle is not very good, until the first good wave through the tank

            Tests were carried out, should cut the wave, a large VO is also useful.
            There is no one on the deck, the guns are covered.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 20 March 2021 13: 24
              +4
              For Berkov and Tikanderog, the tank throws the wave to the sides. And for this yacht, he must cut it, and if the wave is higher, all these hundreds of tons in artillery and on the superstructure, for him to fly into the wave above the death tank is similar. The depth of the side on the tank is 15 meters. if the wave height is more than 10 12 meters there is a chance and very large to catch it through the tank or you need to slow down to safe and storm like ordinary ships. Yes, it will be good in a corridor from 40 degrees north latitude and 40 degrees south latitude with sea waves up to 10 meters , when it is not yet necessary to slow down. Only now when it will be, if the launchers need to be redone, and not only on it but also on Berks and Tikanderogahs. Ours are still building but not in the quantities and what is needed.
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 20 March 2021 14: 02
                +1
                if the launchers need to be redone, and not only on it but also on Berks and Tikanderogi

                What for? belay
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 20 March 2021 14: 12
                  0
                  Do they need hyperuper missiles? According to ours, they shoot Zircon from standard cells.
                  1. 3danimal
                    3danimal 20 March 2021 16: 15
                    0
                    Oh, you mean it.
                    According to ours, they shoot Zircon from regular cells.

                    Better to wait for more data to appear. IMHO, with the declared characteristics (the presence of a scramjet, warhead, seeker and a range of 500+ km), the missile will not fit in the UKSK.
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 20 March 2021 16: 17
                      -1
                      What is being shown raises doubts! There is no doubt that they are shooting with Zircon.
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 20 March 2021 19: 27
                        +2
                        You can also shoot something with slightly different characteristics. request
                        We are waiting, in general.
    2. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 20 March 2021 10: 11
      0
      I hesitate to ask: Who is this in the photo?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 March 2021 10: 15
        0
        NATO warrior, pipe specialists can determine what kind of type, I am by the dock fishermen. And this one just storms, with practically zero speed, relative to the waves.
        1. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 20 March 2021 10: 18
          +4
          I'm just a paramedic at a construction battalion. The main thing for me is to distinguish hemorrhoids from sore throats. laughing
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 20 March 2021 10: 22
            +1
            A proverb about diseases, which ones are treated and which ones go through, of course you know? For Zumwalt SVA, such a storm is the first option. lol If they don't fade in time.
          2. Alf
            Alf 20 March 2021 21: 29
            0
            Quote: stock buildbat
            I'm just a paramedic at a construction battalion. The main thing for me is to distinguish hemorrhoids from sore throats. laughing

            Issue a pill of paracetamol broken in half with the strictest order not to be confused. laughing
  12. faterdom
    faterdom 20 March 2021 09: 51
    0
    The railgun must be soldered!
    And do not deviate from this even a step, otherwise Putin will never be afraid!
    Demand new trillions from the tight-fisted Congress and the cunning taxpayer!
    They have - they are just staring at the great cause of democracy!
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 20 March 2021 12: 27
      +2
      So they do not stink too much. Who has the largest number of rank XNUMX URO ships in the world?
  13. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 20 March 2021 10: 08
    +2
    A huge, super-expensive iron armed with a small artillery boat ... I remember that according to the project, the zamvolt was supposed to correspond only to small boats in terms of EPR, but it turned out that it was also in terms of armament ... laughing
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 March 2021 12: 10
      +3
      The Zumvolt launches 80 rockets. KR and PKR - Tomahawks, SAM.
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 20 March 2021 12: 32
      +1
      You would at least not be too lazy to google what is installed on it.
      There is no such radar either on boats or on corvettes, 80 cells for missiles too. I have never heard of even one 155 mm gun on a small fry.
      Yes, there is also a powerful GAS and torpedo tubes on board, you can wrestle with a nuclear submarine, even fight off its torpedoes.
      What will the submarine Buyan-M or Karakurt oppose, whether there are at least 10 of them in the group?
      Summing up: it is absurd and superficial to compare such a ship with a triviality of rank 3. It is necessary - with classmates, that is, with "Burks", Type 055, Japanese destroyers, British "Daring", etc.
  14. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 March 2021 10: 39
    0
    Where are the defenders of Zumwalt, on the site? Describe the combat capabilities of the "king of the berths".
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 March 2021 12: 09
    +3
    Sumvolt cells fit in length.
    The configuration of the partitions in the cells will have to be changed.
  16. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 March 2021 15: 23
    0
    I'm embarrassed to ask, but will the welding work be done to put hyper-super rockets into the launch cells? drinks
  17. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 20 March 2021 16: 39
    +3
    Rzhu nimagu)))) someday the problems with this floating misunderstanding will end?))) You need to understand that reworking the UVP will again require money, and by no means 5 bucks?))) The manufacturer of this bullshit will "lower" the US budget for another 200 - 300 lamas.
    1. Victor Tsenin
      Victor Tsenin 20 March 2021 18: 12
      0
      It would be better if the mind would never run out, it remains to wish the United States nevertheless to reconsider plans and purchase 32 units)
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 20 March 2021 19: 44
        +1
        It has long been known that in the United States, the adoption of a particular system of weapons or military equipment is decided not by the military or engineers, but by the hucksters from the Capitol. And for them, the more expensive, the better. There are countless examples - littoral steamers, generally a chic option))) two almost identical ships, with practically the same performance characteristics, were ordered from different companies. Accordingly, R&D was paid twice.
        1. Victor Tsenin
          Victor Tsenin 20 March 2021 20: 14
          0
          Let it be)
      2. Alf
        Alf 20 March 2021 21: 31
        +1
        Quote: Victor Tsenin
        It would be better if the mind would never run out, it remains to wish the United States nevertheless to reconsider plans and purchase 32 units)

        Let Putin give an order to our resident to push through such a purchase.
        1. Victor Tsenin
          Victor Tsenin 21 March 2021 07: 22
          -1
          The resident is still in disgrace, accumulating strength, thunder and lightning.
  18. Victor Tsenin
    Victor Tsenin 20 March 2021 18: 11
    0
    Saw cuts and theft in the Russian Federation you say?) That's where the cuts are, a floating iron for $ 4 billion, which confirms the first place in the world for corruption in the United States.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 20 March 2021 18: 43
    +2
    The ship is worth $ 4 billion and still needs to be redone. Where is Navalny, let him watch the cut !!
  20. Your stranger
    Your stranger 21 March 2021 10: 37
    -2
    What's the problem?
    Take out one launcher and insert another, there is also a modular system
    1. Alf
      Alf 21 March 2021 22: 06
      +1
      Quote: Stranger
      What's the problem?
      Take out one launcher and insert another,

      Dimensions are "slightly" different ..
      1. Your stranger
        Your stranger 21 March 2021 23: 17
        -2
        Dimensions of the rocket but not the launcher,
        There will be a few cells smaller in the same size of the launcher
  21. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 22 March 2021 21: 12
    0
    "On March 18, the US Navy decided to submit a request to the industrial sector on the subject of how this problem could be solved by 'modifying' the stealth destroyers."
    Weird question.
    We arm ourselves with plasma - cut the deck, cut the set.
    While we are cutting the whole thing, gentlemen constructors on computers draw us changes in the drawings.
    Changes to the ERE drawings, etc. are also going along the way. etc.
    Plus new blueprints for Large Plasma / workpiece for the manufacture of new parts.
    As a matter of fact ... request
    The main thing is to pay pennies. And there, in general, no question.
    Mona can at least cut the whole thing and rebuild it.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 22 March 2021 21: 41
      0
      By the way, yes! ER is worse. If they have already started cable routes.
      As far as I know, on military ships (we have), the reuse of cables is not allowed. True, it was under the Union. Right now, maybe the OTK will miss. I don’t know about the capitalist. Not strong in this matter.