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"Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan will help": the US offered to find new allies against Russia and China

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According to the American edition of The Wall Street Journal, the US presence in Central Asia is the weakest on the planet. Washington is active in many parts of the world, but Central Asia is actually left at the mercy of Russia and China. Meanwhile, it is in this region, according to the author of the American edition Kamran Bohari, that there is a very great potential for establishing the influence of the United States.


Why Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan


Bohari connects his greatest hopes with Kazakhstan, as well as with Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. After the departure of Nursultan Nazarbayev from the presidency of the country, Kazakhstan has undergone significant changes towards the development of democracy, the American analyst writes. As a large and quite economically developed state, Kazakhstan is interested in ensuring its sovereignty in the face of dangerous and powerful neighbors - Russia and China. It is no coincidence that The Wall Street Journal calls Kazakhstan a regional leader and claims that it will help strengthen US influence in the region and in the fight against Russia and China.

Now Kazakhstan is already resisting Russia's regional expansion in the north of the country, as well as aggressive Chinese investments.

In addition, Bohari notes, Kazakhstan is a Muslim country, but with a clear tendency towards secularism, and therefore it can become an example of secular government and the observance of rights and freedoms in the Islamic world, which will also be strategically beneficial for the United States.

After the death of Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan also opened its borders for Western ideas, the American author writes.

Therefore, it is also possible, as indicated in the US media, to stake on Tashkent in the fight against Russian and Chinese influence. In addition, there is no doubt that the development of relations with Uzbekistan is of interest to the United States in terms of pressure on China through the exploitation of the Uyghur theme. The Uyghurs are the closest relatives of the Uzbeks, and the United States understands that having gained influence in Tashkent, the territory of Uzbekistan, as well as Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, can be used as bases for destabilizing the situation in the Chinese Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (XUAR).

As for Kyrgyzstan, there have already been three popular uprisings in it, allegedly testifying to the desire of the people to assert "democratic values."

The situation is much worse with Turkmenistan and Tajikistan, which are under the control of authoritarian regimes and are not yet going to change their policies.

Reality of American Plans in Central Asia


Cooperation and even alliance with Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, according to Bohari, will allow the United States to successfully resist Russian and Chinese expansion and regain world leadership. Thus, the United States practically does not hide its plans for the further encirclement of Russia with a ring of unfriendly states. Following the construction of a similar ring in Eastern Europe and Transcaucasia, the White House decided to get to Central Asia, drawing attention to the largest states in the region - Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.

At the same time, the American analyst forgets about the same Russian and Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan, about the influence of religious extremism in Uzbekistan and in Central Asia in general, about many other significant problems of the region. However, it is likely that these very problems will be used by the United States for provocative purposes, for the subsequent assertion of its influence.

For example, now Western and pro-Western mass media are actively intimidating Kazakhstan, that after Donbass and Crimea, Moscow will pay attention to Northern Kazakhstan, where a large Russian population lives, and either try to annex it, or create new unrecognized republics there. Part of the Kazakh audience, of course, believes this scenario and strengthens its negative attitude towards the northern neighbor.

How clever is this approach? Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan will never be able to compete with Russia and China even at the regional level, but the activation of the Americans in the region will only contribute to a greater rapprochement between Moscow and Beijing, for which the US presence will pose a political and economic threat.
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  1. Cananecat
    Cananecat 18 March 2021 10: 56
    +13
    I suggest that the State Department also take on the maintenance of guest workers in Russia. And the benefits are charged to them through the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. ))
    1. Machito
      Machito 18 March 2021 11: 20
      +11
      I hope that the numerous Maidans in neighboring Kyrgyzstan have served as a reliable inoculation for Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan from any kind of cooperation and flirting with the United States.
      1. Jolly Roger
        Jolly Roger 18 March 2021 11: 37
        +11
        Yes, an illustrative example.
        1. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 19 March 2021 11: 20
          +3
          An illustrative example, only the Kazakh "ilita" and Nurik keep their earned money in the United States and Great Britain. Or have you forgotten how a couple of years ago Nazarbayev rushed to the USA on bent ones, when the accounts were frozen, after which there was talk about the deployment of US transit bases on the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan? Your shirt is known to be closer to the body. So here who has the stronger arguments.
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 18 March 2021 12: 02
        +5
        Quote: Bearded
        I hope that the numerous Maidans in neighboring Kyrgyzstan have served as a reliable inoculation for Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan from any kind of cooperation and flirting with the United States.

        Quote: Jolly Roger
        Yes, an illustrative example.

        There it is, it turns out lol That is, when Kazakhstan, by coincidence, supports the most unarmed groups in Russia in Kyrgyzstan, it thereby takes care of its own and regional stability.
        Probably the same as in Russia, when the authorities of Kazakhstan helped the development of Tatar nationalism, one must think, solely for the maintenance of peace. No wonder the leader of the Kazakh nation nominated himself for the Nobel Peace Prize 5 or 6 times, I don’t know for sure, and at least once in economics.
      3. aleks700
        aleks700 18 March 2021 19: 45
        0
        Is not a fact. We must work in these states without looking back at public opinion in the West. Create pro-Russian governments. But who will do this?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 March 2021 11: 53
      +5
      Quote: Canecat
      I suggest that the State Department also take on the maintenance of guest workers in Russia. And the benefits are charged to them through the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

      After the imposition of "American democracy" on these countries, the number of guest workers in Russia will increase significantly.
      1. Titus_2
        Titus_2 18 March 2021 11: 59
        +2
        It is beneficial for certain circles ... if the Kirghiz are brought here by airplanes at their own expense.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 18 March 2021 11: 06
    +5
    "Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan will help": the US offered to find new allies against Russia and China

    So I would like to quote a saying / folk wisdom "High to God, far from the king," just add, and a strong neighbor, here he is NEARBY!
    It is clear that they will find greedy ones who will sell everyone and everything, for their own benefit ... the question is, will there be those who are not so greedy, stupid and think about the prospects of not only their own ???
    1. cniza
      cniza 18 March 2021 12: 08
      +8
      They are already working hard there, and we need to squeeze them out of there, by all available means ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 March 2021 12: 22
        +3
        So it is necessary to act according to the mind and show rudeness, on time !!!
        Everything is in the subject when good specialists are engaged in this.
        1. cniza
          cniza 18 March 2021 12: 27
          +4
          And they completely untied our hands, now we have no other option, we need to defend ourselves ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 18 March 2021 12: 36
            +2
            From the very end / beginning of the best options, it WAS NOT if we want to defend the interests of our country.
            1. cniza
              cniza 18 March 2021 12: 40
              +5
              It's time to act, not speak ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 18 March 2021 13: 42
                +3
                This time is overripe long ago! The fruit is still hard, but on the verge ... it can creep into the constituent ones.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 18 March 2021 13: 54
                  +5
                  I think that many there understand this, but the inertia and venality of some in power hinders everything ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 18 March 2021 14: 05
                    +3
                    Its own skin, the skin of loved ones and other confidants, is very close to the body ... not statesmen, from whatever side you look.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 18 March 2021 14: 17
                      +11
                      Here are the thoughts of a caring person who loves his country:

                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 18 March 2021 14: 43
                        +3
                        Sanctions are not the ultimate problem if you go about your business in a smart and systematic way ...
  3. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 March 2021 11: 07
    +1
    The United States lives on a different globe, in Uzbekistan, in Kazakhstan, Russia and China have invested multibillion-dollar investments. And we will not really like this movement of theirs. Let them figure it out with Afghanistan, let's get in and see how they get out. I think the Americans will not overstrain, there is a plug in every barrel !
  4. evgen1221
    evgen1221 18 March 2021 11: 11
    +1
    That would be to roll out the conditions of the United States to the Tajiks with the Kazakhs, make us as rich as the emirates, and then we will talk about influence and so on. And so the Americans wanted to buy the next Papuans for beads.
  5. taiga2018
    taiga2018 18 March 2021 11: 13
    +7
    Well, if Kazakhstan wants to lose part of its territories, then you are welcome to the club of lovers of close "cooperation" with the United States and the deterioration of relations with Russia ... And let Uzbekistan send hundreds of thousands of its guest workers to the United States ... And let both states wait to "visit. "igils and other evil spirits, which are usually always companions of Americans ...
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 18 March 2021 11: 32
      -2
      Who needs them on their territory? Russian-speakers are leaving on the sly and from Siberia also going to the west, who will live there, work and invest money there?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 March 2021 11: 58
        +2
        Quote: Pessimist22
        who will live, work and invest there?

        Nobody except the Kazakhs and Tajiks themselves.
        1. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 18 March 2021 13: 36
          +3
          This is understandable, but some have problems with the logic.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 18 March 2021 13: 59
            +2
            Quote: Pessimist22
            but some have problems with logic.

            If there is one at all.
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 18 March 2021 11: 14
    +4
    Mr. Bohari, a great analyst from America, are you not embarrassed by Kazakhstan's huge border with China and Russia in order to make friends with the United States against its neighbors?
    And where will this ally be, in the event of a conflict, far beyond the puddle?
    Kazakhstan and Russia have quite good neighborly relations.
    Does China mean aggressive investments?
    But loans from the IMF at interest are probably so friendly?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 18 March 2021 11: 35
      +2
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Mr. Bohari, a great analyst from America, are you not embarrassed by Kazakhstan's huge border with China and Russia in order to make friends with the United States against its neighbors?

      wassat wassat wassat The main thing is to start, and then they will look. As the unforgettable Condoleezza said in a long-standing interview - "We opened the map and looked at where Afghanistan is ..." At this time, the troops were already loading the planes winked
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 March 2021 12: 06
      +2
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Mister Great Analyst from America - Bohari

      Every cook is already trying to run the state, and every immigrant from the Middle East who sold felafil at the bazaar pretends to be an "American analyst."
    3. Titus_2
      Titus_2 18 March 2021 12: 10
      +4
      Well, about Kazakhtan, I agree with you that they are friendly and there are many Russians, but the "comrades" play long games from behind the hill, and we do not see what kind of work is being done with young people. An example of the transition to the Latin alphabet is on everyone's lips, and what is happening there in education and what is being taught there to schoolchildren is the question and such trends will come out in 10-20 years.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 March 2021 14: 01
        +1
        Quote: Titus_2
        An example of the transition to the Latin alphabet is on everyone's lips

        I will not say anything about this, I have already received a personal comment.
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 March 2021 11: 14
    +1
    The United States is following the path of one leader who first got poisoned, and then they shot him in the forehead. Two fronts will pull? He did not pull.
  8. Mouse
    Mouse 18 March 2021 11: 18
    +6
    Being a large and quite economically developed state, Kazakhstan is interested in ensuring its sovereignty

    live well, then the states come to you !!!
    1. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 18 March 2021 11: 29
      +2
      live well, then the states come to you !!!

      I agree with that. But only in terms of - they started to get up from their knees, the states are coming to you!
      The speech about Kyrgyzstan completely smiled, taking into account the efforts of the same states in the next revolution. They pour in grandmothers, pour in, then in some, then in others, and the result is a little more than zero.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 18 March 2021 11: 34
        +3
        The speech about Kyrgyzstan completely smiled

        and in the case of Kyrgyzstan, the thesis works - we will help to demolish what is still left ... wink
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 18 March 2021 11: 47
        +3
        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
        They pour in grandmothers, pour in, then in some, then in others, and the result is a little more than zero.

        Well, more than zero ... Exactly seven years ago, they bought Crimea for the Russian Federation for relatively little money (5 billion), hammered into 404. fellow Now, apparently, they have a desire to buy for the Russian Federation Aktyubinsk, Tselinograd, Stepnogorsk, Pavlodar, Ust-Kamenogorsk, etc. Come on. yes
        1. Ruslan Sulima
          Ruslan Sulima 18 March 2021 11: 53
          +3
          Now, apparently, they have a desire to buy for the Russian Federation Aktyubinsk, Tselinograd, Stepnogorsk, Pavlodar, Ust-Kamenogorsk, etc. Come on. yes

          Well, I don't think that the Russian Federation has a need for such acquisitions) I will put more on the return of Alaska, California)
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 18 March 2021 17: 11
            0
            Quote: Ruslan Sulima
            I do not think that the Russian Federation has a need for such acquisitions)

            Duc, not at your own expense. yes laughing
  9. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 18 March 2021 11: 24
    +3
    The main thing is that after this analyst, the State Department does not lay eyes on our neighbors.
    Otherwise, they are very good at promoting their influence and looking for friends in America, and they don’t spare money on occasion.
    And neither the Russian-speaking population, nor the thousand-kilometer border, nor joint economic projects will help Tododa.
    An example with Ukraine is obvious.
  10. dgonni
    dgonni 18 March 2021 11: 25
    -5
    Well, Mr. Polonsky wrote it himself! (For example, now Western and pro-Western mass media are actively intimidating Kazakhstan, which, following the Donbass and Crimea, Moscow will pay attention to Northern Kazakhstan, where a large Russian population lives, and either try to annex it, or create new unrecognized republics there)
    Although the northern territories of Kazakhstan were spoken up to representatives of the Federation Council!
    And the transition to the Latin alphabet in Kazakhstan is exactly the answer to the claims to these territories.
    What about China? The states are far away and China is behind the fence!
    And he invests a lot!
    But if the mattresses offer something sensible. That Kazakhstan will not refuse.
    The same applies to Uzbekistan.
    Unfortunately, a large geostrateg has created a situation when neighbors are trying to fence themselves off and quickly run away from relations with such a neighbor as Russia!
    The ring around Russia is not being formed because the states want it and are doing something there.
    All that could be done to push the neighbors away, the geostrateg has already done!
    In politics and sociology, there is such a thing as inertia.
    So there you go! The inertia in terms of friendly relations with Russia has passed. For if such visions are not supported by beneficial cooperation, then it will end.
    In general, as in that bad detective, there are only enemies around. Although they created enemies themselves!
    1. Titus_2
      Titus_2 18 March 2021 12: 16
      +2
      Minusators seem to live one day and cannot look ahead for more than a week.
      1. K150
        K150 19 March 2021 20: 04
        -1
        Quote: Titus_2
        Minusators seem to live one day and cannot look ahead for more than a week.

        And you seem to be another dill, according to the logic of which Russia should fall apart and give everything, for "mutually beneficial cooperation", apparently the current freebie is not enough, even more is needed.
        1. Titus_2
          Titus_2 20 March 2021 09: 46
          0
          No, I'm a Russian, but about what or who to give so look at the actions of our government.
          1. K150
            K150 20 March 2021 11: 15
            0
            Quote: Titus_2
            No, I'm a Russian, but about what or who to give so look at the actions of our government.

            Then why support such pearls? Anyone who is in the subject knows how much and where Russia is investing and how, in fact, the game is going on in one wicket. What the hell are we supposed to give more? We pay stupidly for their neutrality in essence, but in reality the opposite is true and it turns out that we still have to, the government is to blame. I doubt that you are a Russian, I know firsthand about "Russia should"
    2. K150
      K150 19 March 2021 20: 03
      0
      Well, yes, apparently tens of lards in Belarus is not enough for "mutually beneficial cooperation", investments in Uzbekistan are also apparently not enough, in fact, the gift of southern territories to Kazakhstan after the collapse of the USSR is apparently also not enough. Your uncle has a headache disease - russia-debt, we owe them everything, but they do nothing. Go get medical treatment, the geostrateg is unfinished, he himself gave birth to some kind of nonsense.
  11. My_log_in
    My_log_in 18 March 2021 11: 32
    0
    ... and dig a tunnel to supply the bases! wassat
  12. Cowbra
    Cowbra 18 March 2021 11: 40
    +2
    Yeah, only a new Pashinyan will be found - the old one is broken
  13. iouris
    iouris 18 March 2021 12: 01
    0
    Without Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan in any way?
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 18 March 2021 12: 01
    +6
    Will play out in Kazakhstan before the color revolution, which is not clear? The Armenians also expected help from the United States, but received Pashinyan
  15. cniza
    cniza 18 March 2021 12: 05
    +5
    there is great potential for establishing the influence of the United States.


    Yes, there is, and we will try very hard to reset it to zero ...
  16. gorenina91
    gorenina91 18 March 2021 13: 38
    +1
    "Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan will help": the US offered to find new allies against Russia and China

    - It is unlikely that this will work with Kazakhstan ... - Kazakhstan is already tightly under the influence of China ...
    - Yes, and Uzbekistan ... is not Kyrgyzstan, which is ready to bend over to anyone who gives it loans ... - Uzbekistan is also not averse to "getting" money from the United States; but the Americans are unlikely to fork out over Uzbekistan ...
  17. Consul
    Consul 18 March 2021 14: 01
    +17
    If Russia does not pursue its policy, our power is profitable for our eternal Western enemies, on the territory of the republics of the former USSR, then the United States and Turkey come to our place ...
  18. Consul
    Consul 18 March 2021 14: 05
    +18
    activation of Americans in the region will only contribute to greater rapprochement between Moscow and Beijing

    China doesn't give a damn about us, to put it mildly. China is pursuing its own policy aimed at achieving its Chinese goals. He is not our ally. During the Soviet era, Vietnam and India were our friends in the region. And now, thanks in part to our "friendship" with China, we have lost them too.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 18 March 2021 14: 17
      +21
      Quote: Consul
      ... China is pursuing its own policy aimed at achieving its Chinese goals. He is not our ally.

      Absolutely.
    2. K150
      K150 19 March 2021 20: 08
      0
      Not an ally and not an enemy, as local amersky mongrels like a sling cutter are trying to present to us. And Vietnam itself abandoned us, they even renamed museums about the war to please amers, is this also our fault? India is always dancing like that, and now they kiss with the Amers, sometimes with the brits, sometimes with us. Also my "ally"
  19. NF68
    NF68 18 March 2021 15: 36
    +3
    They are looking for sixes in Central Asia.
  20. ork_333
    ork_333 19 March 2021 09: 51
    +1
    Quote: Humpty
    Quote: Bearded
    I hope that the numerous Maidans in neighboring Kyrgyzstan have served as a reliable inoculation for Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan from any kind of cooperation and flirting with the United States.

    Quote: Jolly Roger
    Yes, an illustrative example.

    There it is, it turns out lol That is, when Kazakhstan, by coincidence, supports the most unarmed groups in Russia in Kyrgyzstan, it thereby takes care of its own and regional stability.
    Probably the same as in Russia, when the authorities of Kazakhstan helped the development of Tatar nationalism, one must think, solely for the maintenance of peace. No wonder the leader of the Kazakh nation nominated himself for the Nobel Peace Prize 5 or 6 times, I don’t know for sure, and at least once in economics.

    Yes, there is no "Kazakh" nation! Until 1936, this territory was an autonomous republic and was called the Kazak ASSR. Until that time, no mentions of the "Kazakhs" as a nation and nationality exist. I do not know what the "upper circles" of the USSR were guided by, but since 1936 the Kazakh SSR suddenly appears and, suddenly, the nationality "Kazakh". And now we get tons of statements about "the antiquity of the Kazakh nation and its enormous contribution to world development and culture." Already it becomes sickening!
  21. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 19 March 2021 11: 16
    0
    Kazakhstan Must Be Divided Between Russia and China! It will help solve a lot of problems! Including, for a while, it will moderate the Chinese appetites in relation to Russia!
    1. K150
      K150 19 March 2021 20: 11
      0
      Nonsense again. China is expanding into southeast Asia, they do not need territories from us, they are full of their own. But your decision smacks of the Munich agreement and the policy of "appeasing Hitler"
  22. Andrey1991
    Andrey1991 April 20 2021 20: 46
    0
    Uzbekistan will not fight against Russia. Since at the moment it is Russia that helps to improve the country's economy. And also opened factories, I don’t remember exactly what kind of trade relations they have.
  23. MALUTA_2
    MALUTA_2 April 24 2021 01: 18
    0
    All Central Asian republics must be viewed as potentially hostile to Russia. The entire North-West Kazakhstan and the entire Caspian region is the historical territory of Russia and must return to Russia.
  24. By myself
    By myself April 26 2021 08: 58
    0
    Ukraine and Georgia were processed (they destroyed and NATO was thrust there), Belarus did not work (there is a strong leader), now they have taken up Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. In Kazakhstan, such a scenario as with Donbass and South Ossetia is also possible, the main thing is that the United States is counting on such a scenario.