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"Imagine the US reaction if the USSR included Cuba and Mexico in the Warsaw Pact" - NATO Expansion Observer

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"Imagine the US reaction if the USSR included Cuba and Mexico in the Warsaw Pact" - NATO Expansion Observer

Armed Forces of Mexico



During the existence of the USSR, the state was subjected to criticism of the most varied nature from the United States. Typical examples of what the Soviet Union was accused of: human rights violations, the lack of freedom of speech, the presence of a repressive apparatus, undermining democracy, in the military invasion of Afghanistan, in spreading the "wrong ideology" to the countries of Eastern Europe. The list goes on for a long time.

As the American columnist Douglas Bandow writes in the pages of The American Conservative, today the situation is such that the United States of America itself has become a copy of the USSR, and in a worse one - in a number of ways. The publication notes that the United States for a long time celebrated the victory over the Soviet Union in the Cold War, but in many ways for Washington this victory turned out to be Pyrrhic.

The author notes that after the collapse of the USSR, the collective West had every chance not only to get along with Russia, but also to make it its long-term ally. Instead, the West continued to do everything to keep the country in decline: it was engaged in the export of assets, promoted NATO's military infrastructure to the borders of Russia, and is promoting it now.

From material in the US Conservative Press:

Suddenly it turned out that the NATO alliance approached St. Petersburg at a distance of 150 km.

The author notes that NATO continues its senseless expansion, including Montenegro and (North) Macedonia, which do not play any role in terms of strengthening the security of the alliance, and no one threatens these countries themselves.

American columnist:

Imagine the US reaction if the Soviet Union included Cuba and Mexico in the Warsaw Pact, and then invited Canada to it.

It is noted that Washington continues to pretend that it does not understand why Moscow is so concerned about NATO's eastward expansion.

Douglas Bandow writes that, accusing Russia of the lack of democracy, the US authorities themselves are no longer trying to hide the fact that they have long ceased to act by democratic methods. The American observer notes that a whole "faction" has formed in the West, which is promoting the theory that "Russia is the enemy." Including through the expanding NATO. It is added that Washington is increasingly insisting on "herd thinking" for all Western countries, jealous of the fact that any of them is going to voice a different opinion than the American one.
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  1. tatra
    tatra 17 March 2021 18: 36
    +5
    Enemies of the communists are constantly doing what the Soviet communists are accused of, and they believe that they have every right to do so, and when they are caught on double standards, they get out "and this is different."
    1. dSK
      dSK 17 March 2021 18: 53
      +2
      to St. Petersburg at a distance of 150 km.
      it from 29 March 2004 of the year.
      There are currently 30 countries in NATO. The military expenditures of all NATO members together amount to more than 70 percent of the global volume for military spending

      Reports that "Russia is participating in international exercises in the Indian Ocean," concluded an agreement with China "on the construction of a base on the Moon," etc., are regarded by US "experts" as creation of a military mega-bloc "Russia - China"directed against NATO ...
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 17 March 2021 19: 51
        +1
        It is noted that Washington continues to pretend that it does not understand why is Moscow so concerned about NATO expansion to the East.

        Yes, because according to the documents declassified in the GB, the former "allies" already in August 1945 were planning an attack on the USSR. Here's how history says it:

        Therefore, NATO "can not be trusted to anyone"!
        And you need to think about Cuba, Mexico and Venezuela.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 21: 03
          +5
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Here's how history says it:

          This is not history that speaks, but Ren-TV. They told this trash can in general terms about the "Unthinkable", and to dream up is their bread.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And you need to think about Cuba, Mexico and Venezuela.

          Speaking, I suppose, with a thoughtful expression? What ideology are you going to offer them? "Need a jerk"? "There is no money, but you are but a pasaran"?
      2. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 17 March 2021 20: 08
        +25
        Another thing surprises me - Great Britain has already officially recognized Russia as the main threat to its security - that is, simply - "the enemy", Biden officially called the President of Russia a "murderer", and the Russian Foreign Ministry and Russian official representatives continue to call "the West" - "partners" ". This is something that "the record has stuck" or before that one does not want to "quarrel-swear" with those who have deposited most of the country's gold reserves, study, live relatives, property and personal accounts of "important persons", accounts and connections " responsible, patriotically oriented entrepreneurs ", etc.?
        1. businessv
          businessv 17 March 2021 22: 01
          +3
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          This is something that "the record has stuck" or before that one does not want to "quarrel-swear" with those who have deposited most of the country's gold reserves, study, live relatives, property and personal accounts of "important persons", accounts and connections " responsible, patriotically oriented entrepreneurs ", etc.?

          That's right, I don't see any other explanation. Greetings, colleague, I have not heard for a long time! smile hi
        2. nod739
          nod739 18 March 2021 03: 58
          +3
          You look in 20-30-50 years the word 'partner' will have a diametrically different meaning ... Language is also evolving ...
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 March 2021 21: 00
      +7
      Quote: tatra
      Enemies of the communists are constantly doing what the Soviet communists are accused of, and they believe that they have every right to do so, and when they are caught on double standards, they get out "and this is different."

      Damn, you can give out something intelligible instead of slogans about "enemies of the communists"! laughing
      The message of the news is much broader.
      1. tatra
        tatra 17 March 2021 21: 06
        -6
        So I wrote an article in essence that YOU, the enemies of the communists, always have double standards in everything. But you just cheated me, and nothing in essence of the article. And you, the Russian enemies of the communists, together with the Anglo-Saxons, have called Lenin and Stalin murderers for decades.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 March 2021 21: 13
          +8
          Quote: tatra
          So I wrote an article in essence that YOU, the enemies of the communists, always have double standards in everything. But you just cheated me, and nothing in essence of the article. And you, the Russian enemies of the communists, together with the Anglo-Saxons, have called Lenin and Stalin murderers for decades.

          In the light! laughing
          Where I even cursed "communism" with one word and called "Lenin" and "Stalin" murderers!
          Do you abuse vodka or something heavier? laughing
          1. tatra
            tatra 17 March 2021 21: 19
            -3
            Ha, the enemies of the communists are incorrigible. ALWAYS when you write to them "you, the enemies of the communists", they answer "and here I am." Moreover, they are rude. This is their discussion of the history and politics of their country and people.
            1. dauria
              dauria 17 March 2021 22: 16
              +4
              Ha, the enemies of the communists are incorrigible


              Irina, yes, you finally choose a synonym for your "enemies of the communists." In every comment, in every topic ...
              Can I help you ? "Antagonists, haters, adversaries, blood feuds, devils, foes, fobes ..."
              The "communists" are synonyms "crooks, opportunists, saints, blessed, opportunists, hameoeons .." For every taste, with any shade. Well this is the great and mighty Russian language.
              "Haters of opportunists," "oppressors of the saints," persecutors of the blessed. " wink And you have a gray and nondescript "Enemies of the Communists ..."
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 17 March 2021 21: 40
            -2
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            Do you abuse vodka or something heavier?

            hi Entering the shaky ground! I remember asking a similar question at one time, the "comrades" minus. laughing
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 March 2021 23: 35
              +8
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Entering the shaky ground! I remember asking a similar question at one time, the "comrades" minus.

              Got enough where the "enemies of the communists", "the enemies of the Bolsheviks" will not stick !!!
              And all the enemies, the most paradoxical except the pagans !!!
              I was born in the USSR, went to school, I even wear a sign of higher education with the coat of arms of the USSR (they were given out from old zagashniki). But in my worldview, Russia, the Russian kingdom, the Russian Empire, the USSR and the Russian Federation are essentially a single state formation, which my ancestors historically lived and highlighting one of its periods - haya and refuting all the others, in my opinion, is not a smart position.
              Based on the message of the above article, they kick us all despite our beliefs, beliefs and sexual preferences, and we manage to look for enemies among us! I understand that "HYIP" and "Likes" are our everything, but then how does the respected Tatra differ from those who oppose in the "Hali Likes" mode.
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 17 March 2021 23: 45
                -2
                Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                I understand that "HYIP" and "Likes" are our everything, but then how does the respected Tatra differ from those who oppose in the "Hali Likes" mode.

                Here I am most alarmed by the number of "like" her (or him). Are we so degraded? As for the "enemies", I personally, who was born in 1973, regret that such a country as the USSR has ceased to be. But it happened and there will be no return. We must try to find ourselves in a new reality, to change something in this reality and stop living only with one past. With regard to leftist ideas. I am ready to support the communists too, but I do not see a single real leader. In addition to the ideas and developments of the past, there is nothing left. We loved everything, especially the youth. And there is no future without youth. hi
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  Kote Pan Kokhanka 18 March 2021 00: 04
                  +5
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Here I am most alarmed by the number of "like" her (or him). Are we so degraded? As for the "enemies", I personally, who was born in 1973, regret that such a country as the USSR has ceased to be. But it happened and there will be no return. We must try to find ourselves in a new reality, to change something in this reality and stop living only with one past. With regard to leftist ideas. I am ready to support the communists too, but I do not see a single real leader. In addition to the ideas and developments of the past, there is nothing left. We loved everything, especially the youth. And there is no future without youth.

                  Apparently so. There is nothing to add. hi
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 18 March 2021 00: 13
                    -2
                    I would like to see people like in the video. but we see people like Uncle Zu ...
    3. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 17 March 2021 22: 20
      +7
      Quote: tatra
      Enemies of the communists

      Yes, these "enemies of the communists" of yours do not give a damn about what, who, what he thinks and thinks! Spit from a high mountain! These are your "dear communists" Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and their communist train of sycophants and careerists sold my Motherland! For that now they and their children, grandchildren with great-grandchildren grabbed more than we can imagine There were comrades, there were gentlemen ... .. And every one of them in the not-far-off former communists. So screw up the country !! To lose 100 million of the population and half of the best habitable lands ... It was necessary to be able to. But they got fifteen hostile "sovereign" "states .." You'd better keep quiet with your communists!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 19 March 2021 21: 47
        +1
        Quote: 30 vis
        So screw up the country!

        So where were you? By the time of the collapse of the USSR, there were 30 thousand reserve officers in the Crimea, 3 divisions and what! Who came to the defense?
        Quote: 30 vis
        ... And one and all in the near-by former communists

        And as a rule, all the officers were communists. Are you an officer? Or so, sympathetic?
        Start with yourself before you shit on real communists. My father-in-law received a party card in Vaenga while flying on the DB-3. And there were many of them. And your Putin! Was a communist? And now the hare!
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 20 March 2021 12: 11
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          My father-in-law received his party card in Vaenga while flying on the DB-3. And there were many of them. And your Putin! Was a communist? And now the hare!

          At that time I was a member of the Komsomol. And, my father is a naval officer, the commander of a destroyer, a Communist said to these events - "Spiders in the bank! These are not communists! Let each and another devour. Don't bother my son!" Yes, your party. he did not return the ticket. It is now a family heirloom. And My Putin will still send your Svidobanderites into permanent exile to the land of Franz Joseph! Grow citrus fruits and supposedly "communists" with them! Let them kill each other!
    4. halpat
      halpat 17 March 2021 23: 00
      +3
      How tired of this "if only if only." From each iron:
      and if we were, then they would have raised such a howl ...
      And for any reason, like noble schoolgirls by God.

      Do at least once as they do, and then reason.
    5. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 18 March 2021 02: 17
      -2
      Not the same, but everything is much, more disgusting, the West is much worse than Nazi Germany only earlier this world cancer tumor could be put in place by the Union, and after the collapse, all the rot of the West climbed out.
  2. xorek
    xorek 17 March 2021 18: 37
    +10
    Russia will never be an ally for the Anglo-Saxons, our attitude to justice and world cooperation is too different.
    We tried to "be friends" more than once, everything ended in turmoil, blood, robbery ..
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 17 March 2021 18: 49
      -1
      Quote: xorek
      Russia will never be an ally for the Anglo-Saxons, we have too different attitudes towards justice and world cooperation

      I don't know if it will be or not. But she was an ally of the Anglo-Saxons twice for sure. This is the first world war and the second world war. And then the relationship was complicated. And in the days of WWII, in general, different systems. ideologies absolutely hostile to each other.
      1. tatra
        tatra 17 March 2021 19: 01
        -3
        And why so modestly kept silent that you, the enemies of the Bolsheviks, were allies of the Anglo-Saxons in the war against the Bolsheviks after the October Revolution, received from them weapons and uniforms?
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 17 March 2021 19: 17
          +4
          Quote: tatra
          And why so modestly kept silent that you, the enemies of the Bolsheviks, were allies of the Anglo-Saxons in the war against the Bolsheviks after the October Revolution, received from them weapons and uniforms?

          Quite right, I did. As I remember now, I’m sitting at General Kornilov’s headquarters, interrogating an elderly revolutionary woman with the combat pseudonym Tatra, and the head of counterintelligence is putting a bundle of francs in my pocket. You have opened me! What else do you know about me? hi
          1. tatra
            tatra 17 March 2021 19: 26
            .
            Oh, it is the eternal cowardly enemies of the communists that they "have nothing to do" with everything they did in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods. But on the other hand, they all have something to do with what they got in the post-Soviet period.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 17 March 2021 19: 29
              +1
              Quote: tatra
              Oh, it is the eternal cowardly of the enemies of the communists that they have nothing to do with everything they did in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods. But on the other hand, they all have something to do with what they got in the post-Soviet period

              laughing
      2. dmmyak40
        dmmyak40 17 March 2021 19: 31
        +5
        Don't forget about the anti-Napoleonic coalition.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 17 March 2021 20: 07
          +1
          Quote: dmmyak40
          Don't forget about the anti-Napoleonic coalition

          Well, there you can dig up to Prussia. laughing
        2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 March 2021 21: 03
          +6
          Quote: dmmyak40
          Don't forget about the anti-Napoleonic coalition.

          It does not fit into the Tatra worldview !!! Now, if only one "Bolshevik" was in the ranks of the coalition !!! laughing
      3. Terenin
        Terenin 17 March 2021 19: 32
        +3
        Quote: Tank Hard
        I don't know if it will be or not. But she was an ally of the Anglo-Saxons twice for sure. This is the first world war and the second world war.

        Yes, but friendship and situational ally are not the same No.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 17 March 2021 20: 08
          0
          Quote: Terenin
          Yes, but friendship and situational ally are not the same

          Well, were you allies? wink
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 21: 08
          +4
          Quote: Terenin
          Yes, but friendship and situational ally are not the same

          Yes, come on these sentiments, by God. Well, what the fuck is "friendship" in an interstate get-together? What nonsense?
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 18 March 2021 09: 33
            +5
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Quote: Terenin
            Yes, but friendship and situational ally are not the same

            Yes, come on these sentiments, by God. Well, what the fuck is "friendship" in an interstate get-together? What nonsense?

            It is sad that in the interstate (political) get-together only now the West began to resort to such formulations as
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Well what the fuck, "friendship"
            or "Putin is a criminal?" winked supposedly "friends" against whom?
      4. meandr51
        meandr51 17 March 2021 19: 46
        +2
        The first time this "ally" tried to seize the Kola Peninsula and D. Vostok in the revolutionary turmoil, and the second time, he was preparing a surprise attack on the USSR immediately after the allied actions, which did not happen only as a result of an overestimation of the military power of our country.
        So it's best to keep this ally at a distance.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 17 March 2021 20: 09
          +2
          Quote: meandr51
          The first time this "ally" tried to seize the Kola Peninsula and D. Vostok in the revolutionary turmoil, and the second time, he was preparing a surprise attack on the USSR immediately after the allied actions, which did not happen only as a result of an overestimation of the military power of our country.
          So it's best to keep this ally at a distance

          Yes, Russia has such allies throughout the history of the state.
        2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 March 2021 21: 05
          +5
          Quote: meandr51
          The first time this "ally" tried to seize the Kola Peninsula and D. Vostok in the revolutionary turmoil, and the second time, he was preparing a surprise attack on the USSR immediately after the allied actions, which did not happen only as a result of an overestimation of the military power of our country.
          So it's best to keep this ally at a distance.

          Not the first time, but at least the second. Or the Crimean War, for you it is not a part of our history.
      5. xorek
        xorek 17 March 2021 20: 20
        +4
        Quote: Tank Hard
        generally different systems. ideologies absolutely hostile to each other.

        Not that they are hostile, but very ... They always come to us without soap and cunningly, how many troubles they have brought and now they are screaming all over the world. Russians are "a threat to their world order." crap "..
        But we do not meddle with them with our charter?
        And they have already made their way into the country and are trying to decompose us from within ..
        It is so ?
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 17 March 2021 21: 37
          -2
          Quote: xorek
          It is so ?

          I won't even argue. hi
          1. xorek
            xorek 18 March 2021 19: 50
            +1
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Quote: xorek
            It is so ?

            I won't even argue. hi

            Judging by the minuses, not everyone agrees with us here ... So I hit the spot! hi
      6. xorek
        xorek 18 March 2021 20: 09
        +1
        Quote: Tank Hard
        I don't know if it will be or not. But she was an ally of the Anglo-Saxons twice for sure. This is the first world war and the second world war. And then the relationship was complicated. And in the days of WWII, in general, different systems. ideologies absolutely hostile to each other.

        When the money is there, allies ... and as soon as everything is plundered, they do not care ..
        Under Stalin, Churchill was shy, although he was a terry Russophobe, but he respected, and nevertheless there was help ... And the United States before the Second World War generally sat in a terrible economic crisis ... As soon as Hitler rushed to the USSR, they immediately began to rise and denyushki began to flow and so on .. And the Lend-Lease was generally enriched, and especially during the division of Germany, von Braun alone was worth what .. hi
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 19: 09
      +2
      Quote: xorek
      Russia will never be an ally of the Anglo-Saxons

      Ferret, never say never.
      During WWII, eventual enemy number 1 became an ally, although a year before that he made plans for preemptive bombing of our infrastructure.
      Quote: xorek
      it all ended in confusion, blood, robbery

      Tehran, Yalta and Potsdam - is it a turmoil or a robbery?
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 17 March 2021 19: 32
        +4
        Read Churchill's speech at Fulton.
        75 years ago, they forgot that we were allies.
        And you still remember ... bully
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 19: 50
          +2
          Quote: Alex777
          Read Churchill's speech at Fulton ..

          So what? Beginning in 1917, he practiced slander against the Soviets, but when the roasted rooster pecked, he entered into a misalliance with them. What will prevent this from happening again?
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 17 March 2021 20: 05
            +2
            when the roast cock pecked, he made a misalliance with them. What will prevent this from happening again?

            Все.
            The world has changed so much that until their Yellowstone volcano covers up there will be no cooperation.
            By the way, in the 40s there was racial segregation in the States.
            And now they have forgotten about God. LGBT and BLM rule.
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 20: 11
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              The world has changed so much that until their Yellowstone volcano covers up there will be no cooperation.

              So I say - certain circumstances are needed, which at the moment are in the category unthinkable, and tomorrow may well become a reality. The world is not static.
              Quote: Alex777
              By the way, in the 40s there was racial segregation in the States.

              Why "by the way"? How does racism go?
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 17 March 2021 20: 16
                0
                What is not clear? This is an illustration of how the world has changed. bully
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 20: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex777
                  What is not clear? This is an illustration of how the world has changed. bully

                  Not the most, to put it mildly, vivid omens) But we are apologists for "stability", conservatives and lovers of snot over the cozy Soviet past of Ilyich's grandfather (the second). And we rejoice at the second coming of the Cold War, because this to some extent compensates for the orphan complex of nostalgia for the USSR. Imitation of greatness and consolidation around power. The iron curtain should have come down sooner. laughing
              2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 17 March 2021 21: 08
                +5
                All Khan Abzatsu, now the respected one will begin to torture “how much will 2 + 2 be? wink
      2. xorek
        xorek 17 March 2021 20: 25
        -2
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Ferret, never say never.

        The Anglo-Saxons will never be real allies and honest partners for us .. This is unambiguous! We will "blame" them, like other "exceptional" .. When they come to us and they will definitely climb .. This is their essence and vitality
        They simply cannot survive without robbery!
      3. d1975
        d1975 17 March 2021 21: 09
        0
        We say - rubbing!
      4. xorek
        xorek 18 March 2021 20: 17
        +1
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Tehran, Yalta and Potsdam - is it a turmoil or a robbery?

        This is a redivision of the world! The USSR is practically destroyed, resources are depleted .. Stalin behaved very competently, but the pressure of the overweight Anglo-Saxons was colossal .. There, almost a third world war threatened the USSR and there were even military clashes. And the Vlasovites surrendered to the Angolsax in thousands and offered their services in the fight against the Soviets! I read the Archives .. But they handed them over to us, in exchange for the territory of the occupation of Germany. Khrushch released them all later.
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 17 March 2021 19: 30
      +3
      Russia will never be an ally of the Anglo-Saxons

      If we are enemies, then why do all the families of our type of elite live with them, and they drag everything stolen in Russia to the Anglo-Saxons? what Can you imagine - if, say, Comrade Stalin sent all the families of members of the Central Committee and Politburo to Aloizievich in Germany for permanent residence? belay
      1. 6erJIblu
        6erJIblu 17 March 2021 20: 00
        +2
        And what prevents them from presenting the legality of receiving this dough. They will take away the hell that this "official" will do.
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 17 March 2021 21: 56
        +3
        Quote: paul3390
        If we are enemies, then why do all the families of our type of elite live with them, and they drag everything stolen in Russia to the Anglo-Saxons?

        Because they are enemies too. Internal.
    4. Coconut
      Coconut 17 March 2021 19: 42
      0
      Russia will never be an ally of the Anglo-Saxons

      Of course ... but on condition that our officials stop hiding the loot over the hill lol
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 17 March 2021 19: 55
        +2
        Quote: Coco
        Of course ... but on condition that our officials stop hiding the loot over the hill

        That is why the citizens of Russia approve the abolition of the moratorium on the death penalty just for such officials + complete confiscation of property ...
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  3. I AM BELARUSIAN
    I AM BELARUSIAN 17 March 2021 18: 43
    0
    Well, at least someone has brains.
    .
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 20: 20
      +4
      Quote: I am BELARUS
      Well, at least someone has brains.
      .

      Let's imagine a mirror situation - our systemic critics of the Russian government are also considered there "guys with brains." And in the homeland - by Russophobes, liberals and bedding of the State Department. Funny collision)
  4. cniza
    cniza 17 March 2021 18: 50
    +1
    Douglas Bandow writes that, accusing Russia of the lack of democracy, the US authorities themselves are no longer trying to hide the fact that they have long ceased to act by democratic methods.


    The voice of one crying in the wilderness will even strangle him ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 March 2021 19: 10
      +1
      Capitalism - imperialism in its last stage! metastases are already everywhere!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 March 2021 19: 20
        0
        Quote: rocket757
        metastases are already everywhere!

        Which are no longer treated.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 17 March 2021 19: 36
          +2
          This form is special, like "beautiful leprosy"! In appearance it may not look bad yet, better than it should be in such a situation ... at least there, which should be exposed to the public. And they try not to show what is inside, although it is no longer possible to hide it. Painfully, a lot has completely rotted away.
      2. cniza
        cniza 17 March 2021 20: 28
        +3
        Quote: rocket757
        Capitalism - imperialism in its last stage! metastases are already everywhere!


        I don't know which ism, but they repeat all the worst mistakes of the USSR ...
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 17 March 2021 19: 35
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      Douglas Bandow writes that, accusing Russia of the lack of democracy, the US authorities themselves are no longer trying to hide the fact that they have long ceased to act by democratic methods.


      The voice of one crying in the wilderness will even strangle him ...

      But, a little slip came out winked The voice then jumped out ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 March 2021 20: 28
        +3
        So we are glad that the slip is not the first and it seems far from the last ...
  5. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 17 March 2021 18: 51
    0
    What can I say? ..
    Vaughn, the President of the United States has already called our President a kind of "killer". As reported by the TV channel Russia 1 ...
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 19: 15
      +1
      Quote: Benzorez
      As reported by the TV channel Russia 1 ...

      If you continue to watch this garbage dump, you will live to see this)
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 17 March 2021 19: 44
        -1
        "If you continue to watch this garbage dump, you will live to see this)"
        So look here, don't look ... The essence of the matter does not change from this.
        Comrade who? Prosecutor / comrade court? .. Who is he to make such statements? ..
        Tomorrow someone will come / declare that I am an alcoholic / drug addict / terrorist / separatist. Grab me guys!
        Separatism, by the way, will be sewn on me in Ukraine just for once.
        And ... Come on, you sit for a few years. We decided so !.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 March 2021 19: 23
      0
      Quote: Benzorez
      The US President is already calling our President a kind of "killer".

      I did not think that the president of a great country could fall so low. Washington and Lincoln would have been horrified to see their descendant president slip to the top / on.
      1. nnm
        nnm 17 March 2021 19: 48
        +4
        This analogy also came to mind. For many years now, there is one answer to all internal problems of the United States - Russophobia. Recently, I began to read the posts of ordinary Americans and the simplicity of shock - someone is kicked out of their homes for supporting Trump, others, adults are just crying (in the literal sense) because of his defeat and everywhere the global imposition of a white guilt complex. But, as I think, there are pluses in this - the third, undecided countries no longer look at the US mouth that way. Like the same Turkey. How the UAE got out of US control in oil pricing, Syria, the US is squeezed out of Africa, etc.
        I understand that I will be in the minority, but I think that this internal detonation cannot be stopped. I used to think that only in 50 years the USA would be removed from the world throne, but now I am even afraid of my thoughts, maybe 50 years - it turned out to be too optimistic for the USA.
        But there is also a problem - what / whom this Leviathan will pull under the water.
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 17 March 2021 20: 36
          0
          "But, as I think, there are pluses in this - third, undecided countries no longer look at the mouth of the United States. Like Turkey. Like the United Arab Emirates, which got out of US control in oil pricing, Syria, the United States is squeezed out of Africa, etc. .d. "
          Do you see what the matter is?
          I kind of flatter myself with the hope that "the heavier the sound of the guitars, the worse for the enemy."
          But in fact, I don't see big reasons for optimism.
          Our Turkish partners are categorically demonstrating stable instability in relation to us.
          I mean, I understand them perfectly. They - bend their line and do not care at all they wanted.
          By the way, such a hard line (in my provincial opinion, we just do not have enough).
          For some reason, the Russian Federation is categorically afraid of everyone all the way, loves and respects everyone. Through that, and loses respect.
          Bo you were given in the head once, two were given ... The third time - no one will ask you.
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 21: 20
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        I did not think that the president of a great country could fall so low.

        Just don't need this theatrical pose. The fall of this one:

        was much like below.
      3. Obliterator
        Obliterator 17 March 2021 23: 22
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        I did not think that the president of a great country could fall so low. Washington and Lincoln would have been horrified to see their descendant president slip to the top / on.

        Well, you can still hear something from an alzheimer's grandfather.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 17 March 2021 19: 39
      +6
      Quote: Benzorez
      What can I say? ..
      t. The President of the United States already calls our President a kind of "killer" ..
      Who knows what maybe, in his old age, Biden saw who would come for him soon crying
    4. Simargl
      Simargl 17 March 2021 20: 06
      +1
      Quote: Benzorez
      The US President is already calling our President a kind of "killer".
      This, without a decision of their court, only means that Bidon is not a politician.
  6. Andrea
    Andrea 17 March 2021 18: 54
    -1
    "If" is not appropriate here.
    That will already be verified in 62.
    Hysteria and bad smell from the "exclusive hegemon".
    As a result, the well-worn hegemon removed nuclear missiles from Europe.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 19: 14
      0
      Quote: Andrea
      As a result, a well-worn hegemon took out nuclear missiles from Europe.

      An interesting interpretation of the resolution of the Cuban missile crisis. The dressed-up hegemon is hysterical, NATO is in shock ... And the courageous cold-blooded faces of the Politburo members are a contrast. laughing
      That is, Khrushchev, in your opinion, came out as a complete winner? Did he not remove the missiles from Cuba, and gave Fidel an atomic bomb at his request?
      1. dauria
        dauria 17 March 2021 22: 48
        +1
        That is, Khrushchev, in your opinion, came out as a complete winner?


        Actually, yes. The task was to remove missiles from Turkey. It has been resolved.
        Missiles in Cuba were part of the solution to this problem. Together with the increase in rates, the degree of combat readiness is "full".
        By themselves, rockets are not needed in Cuba.
        Well, everyone "did it" then. But this is a normal condition - diarrhea before the fight. The main thing is not to run away. wink
  7. knn54
    knn54 17 March 2021 18: 59
    +1
    I remember the Cuban missile crisis, which almost grew into the Third World War.
    But tactical missiles have just been deployed. What is the Warsaw Pact?
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 17 March 2021 19: 08
    0
    During the existence of the USSR, the state was subjected to criticism of the most varied nature from the United States.

    The world does not stand still, only some themes remain unshakable, eternal!
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 March 2021 19: 23
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      only some themes remain unshakable, eternal!

      The Cold War is the law of the genre.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 March 2021 19: 38
        -1
        Both genre and laws are created by people ... groups of interested faces.
  9. iouris
    iouris 17 March 2021 19: 12
    0
    It is high time to join Cuba.
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 March 2021 19: 13
    -1
    Douglas Bandow voiced his thoughts very boldly, especially since there is a hunt for "witches" in the USA. That is, if you do not think like a democrat, then you are an enemy. With all that it implies.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 March 2021 19: 25
      -1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Douglas Bandow voiced his thoughts very boldly, especially since there is a witch hunt in the USA.

      In the states, it can be considered suicidal.
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  12. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 17 March 2021 19: 21
    +3
    ... "there were all chances not only to get along with Russia, but also to make it your long-term allies" ...
    But the Hegimons preferred to try to make slaves out of the Russians. They have such a habit.
    Thank God it didn't work out!
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 17 March 2021 19: 40
      +1
      As if the United States has no allies, only slaves, who are allowed only what Caesar will allow.
  13. Your stranger
    Your stranger 17 March 2021 19: 22
    -1
    There were many Soviet troops in Cuba
    Even the wikipedia article is -
    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 March 2021 19: 39
      0
      How much is this much? Compared to what?
      1. Your stranger
        Your stranger 17 March 2021 20: 09
        -1
        Composition edit
        control
        7th separate motorized rifle brigade - 12th training center, the location of Narocco, 18 km from Havana
        1963 - 1978

        4th Separate Motorized Rifle Battalion
        20th Separate Motorized Rifle Battalion
        5 Separate Tank Battalion
        Combat Support Battalion
        Separate jet division
        Missile division (until 1970), later a separate anti-aircraft battery of the brigade command
        1978 - 1993

        55554rd separate motorized rifle battalion, military unit np XNUMX
        4th separate motorized rifle battalion, military unit np 75380 (disbanded in October 1991, l / s completely withdrawn in February 1992)
        20th separate motorized rifle battalion, military unit np 89563 (stationed in Torrens)
        5th separate tank battalion, military unit 89406
        Separate jet division, military unit np 57212
        Reconnaissance company management brigade
        Engineer-sapper company of brigade management (deployment - Torrens)
        Communications company of the brigade control
        The company of the material support of the brigade management
        Medical company management brigade
        Air defense platoon control brigade
        Platoon of chemical protection brigade control
        Commandant platoon of brigade management
        Separate anti-aircraft battery (later ZRAB) of the brigade management
        At the end of 1981, the 42nd separate artillery division was formed, military unit pp 49542 (deployment - Torrens)

        Communication nodes
        "Palma", military unit 54234-B, REC Lourdes OSNAZ, 6th department of the GRU, (deployment - Torrens)
        "Platan", military unit pp 90588 - F, CMRO of the Navy (deployment - Torrens)
        "Vostok", military unit pp 54234 - F, CMRO of the Navy (deployment - Nikaro)
        "Orbit", RER of the KGB of the USSR (deployment - Torrens)
        "Chaika", General Staff of the Moscow Region (based in Casablanca, Havana)
        "Sosna", General Staff of the Moscow Region (deployed until 1981 - Torrens)
        "Barka", General Staff of the Ministry of Defense (deployment until 1981 - Torrens)
        "Canyon", Navy (deployed until 1981 - Torrens, from 1982 - Narokko)
        "Finish", General Staff of the Ministry of Defense (deployment - Narokko)
        "Angel", General Staff of the Ministry of Defense (deployment - El-Gabriel)
        "Priboy", Navy (deployment - El-Gabriel)
        "Astra", SVR (deployment - El-Gabriel)
  14. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 March 2021 19: 43
    +5
    Doug Bandow is a godsend for Russia!
    It would take a long time to look for such a person.
    Of course, he has been writing regularly for years about military non-intervention and vehemently criticizing NATO expansion, it seems to be good, but ...
    At one time, he worked as a senior researcher at the Cato Institute (this is an American libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C.), and he was kicked out the door when it was discovered that for more than ten years he had been accepting payments in exchange to publish articles favorable to various clients. In other words, he wrote any crap to order.
    His main customer was Jack Abramoff, an American lobbyist, businessman, film producer, writer and convicted felon. He was at the center of an extensive corruption investigation that convicted 21 people, including nine other lobbyists and congressional aides, and sentenced him to six years in prison for mail fraud, bribery of government officials and tax evasion. Served 43 months before being released on parole in December 2010.

    The editors, before referring to any authorities, please check them at least a bit for lice. hi
  15. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 17 March 2021 19: 54
    -2
    "Imagine the US reaction if the USSR included Cuba and Mexico in the Warsaw Pact." This is a bad example. Both Mexico and Cuba have been members of the Non-Aligned Movement since the early 60s. It would not have been possible to seduce them with the Warsaw Pact for any price, and Mexico was not a particularly friendly country to the USSR. And Cuba was already so good. She already, for decades, lived at the expense of the USSR.
  16. Alien From
    Alien From 17 March 2021 21: 29
    +3
    Only NATO allies can trust NATO!
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 17 March 2021 21: 46
      -6
      Quote: Alien From
      Only NATO allies can trust NATO!

      And even then, with an eye. We remember Turkey and Greece. wink
  17. 1536
    1536 17 March 2021 22: 46
    0
    And it would be necessary to do so, and even from all the members of this Warsaw Pact 2% to receive in the defense fund. The rulers of the USSR were afraid of the greatness of their own country, did not believe in the strength of the people, and then fled, betraying and abandoning these people, ruining the state, and even failing, by and large, to take its wealth, others took it.
    America is not threatened, because there are braces, a frame, as if on a TV tower in Moscow, which will not allow the state to collapse. You can call it whatever you like: a "deep state", a business community, a Masonic lodge, or a mafia association of ruling families. But this is a fact. Therefore, for the United States whether or not there will be NATO is a rhetorical question. Better, of course, let it be, 2% will not interfere.
  18. orlandoche
    orlandoche 17 March 2021 22: 49
    0
    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Need a jerk "?"

    I support my friend !!!good
    And we can also offer a "push" laughing
  19. Cowbra
    Cowbra 17 March 2021 23: 52
    -2
    Douglas Bandow writes that, accusing Russia of the lack of democracy, the US authorities themselves are no longer trying to hide the fact that they have long ceased to act by democratic methods.

    What do you want from a nursing home?
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