Poll by VTsIOM: citizens of the Russian Federation want to return the death penalty and cancel the pension reform

Citizens of the Russian Federation want to return the death penalty, to strengthen the fight against corruption, as well as to abolish the pension reform and the Unified State Exam. This conclusion can be drawn from the results of a survey conducted by VTsIOM.

The respondents “tried on” the role of a presidential adviser and proposed changes that, in their opinion, should be introduced into Russian legislation.

The agency reports RIA News.

The VTsIOM poll showed that 14 percent of Russians want to cancel the pension reform and lower the retirement age to the previous level. 6% noted the need for changes in tax legislation and tax cuts. Three percent spoke in favor of the abolition of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and another two - in favor of introducing the death penalty as the highest measure of criminal punishment. At the same time, almost two-thirds of the respondents found it difficult to answer the question of what they would like to abolish in Russian legislation.

In addition, 7 percent of the Russians surveyed consider it necessary to toughen the punishment for bribery. It was also proposed to adopt laws aimed at developing the country and combating domestic violence. The respondents spoke out for the abolition of the USE and the return of capital punishment in the form of the death penalty.

The poll was conducted by VTsIOM-Sputnik on March 12 by telephone interview. It was attended by 1 Russian citizens over the age of 600.

Comments

[rusich]

I support the citizens of the Russian Federation. The death penalty for bribe-takers, embezzlers, corrupt officials, pedophiles. Reduce the retirement age

[Incvizitor]

Liberators and traitors at the same time.

[NIKN]

Quote: Incvizitor

Liberators and traitors at the same time.

Thinking, you can only confine yourself to the thought, well, pedophiles are unambiguous.

[Incvizitor]

You cannot limit yourself, they are already trying to openly destroy the people and the country, well they have no opportunity, but on ... Now there is no country, war and fascism.

[Stas157]

Quote: Incvizitor

Liberators and traitors at the same time.

You didn't mean the king?

The former communist shape-shifter, betrayed communist ideas and began to serve the oligarchs' cronies, being at the same time the main liberal of Russia.

[military_cat]

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: military_cat

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

VTsIOM is a little better than Levada, that's all the oddities, only 14% against the pensioner, it's fierce nonsense!

[Uncle lee]

attended by 1 citizens

The poll was conducted in the Duma, in the Federation Council and in ministries .... Therefore, these are the results of the poll.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Uncle Lee

attended by 1 citizens

The poll was conducted in the Duma, in the Federation Council and in the ministries ... Therefore, these poll results

At the same time, almost two-thirds of the respondents found it difficult to answer the question of what they would like to abolish in Russian legislation.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Doccor18

found it difficult to answer

How should they know! They live not according to laws, but according to concepts.

[Starover_Z]

The poll was conducted by VTsIOM-Sputnik on March 12 by telephone interview. It was attended by 1 Russian citizens over the age of 600.

Quote: Uncle Lee

attended by 1 citizens

The poll was conducted in the Duma, in the Federation Council and in ministries .... Therefore, these are the results of the poll.

"... Was there a boy?" - Was there a survey itself? Where is the guarantee that such an event took place?
Or is it just stuffing for our further orientation? (This is just a question, not opposition)

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

The poll was conducted in the Duma, in the Federation Council and in ministries .... Therefore, these are the results of the poll.

Among the oligarchs and members of the administration.

[210ox]

The numbers are of course not true.

[WHAT IS]

Quote: 210ox

The numbers are of course not true.

Agree

14 percent of Russians want to cancel the pension reform and lower the retirement age to the previous level. 6% noted the need for changes in tax legislation and tax cuts. Three percent spoke in favor of the abolition of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and another two - in favor of introducing the death penalty as the highest measure of criminal punishment.

Obviously large should be, and not 14,6,3 and 2%. Especially not 14.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: WHAT IS

Obviously large should be, and not 14,6,3 and 2%.

Well, at least they didn't write 2,3,6 and 14%

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

VTsIOM is a little better than Levada, that's all the oddities, only 14% against the pensioner, it's fierce nonsense!

And the number of respondents is close to zero.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

only 14% against the pensioner is fierce nonsense!

But why? If you know where, who, what and how to ask, then you can get any necessary numbers. Conduct, for example, a survey among officials and get 100% against anti-corruption laws.

[Roma 1977]

As in the joke: "A survey at a gay pride parade revealed that 100% of the inhabitants of the Russian Federation are sexual minorities ..."

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Piramidon

If you know where, who, what and how to ask, then you can get any numbers you want.

logical (!)..

https://youtu.be/Hz3A5pKYHGs

[Nemchinov Vl]

or, more precisely, about polls directly, -
https://youtu.be/QOxXnHtSEvk

[ioan-e]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Poll by VTsIOM: citizens of the Russian Federation want to return the death penalty and cancel the pension reform

VTsIOM is much better than Levada - as much as they say, they will draw as much!

[Alex777]

VTsIOM is a little better than Levada, that's all the oddities, only 14% against the pensioner, it's fierce nonsense!

Apparently the people who were asked were confused.

Citizens of the Russian Federation, although to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty, to strengthen the fight against corruption, as well as to cancel the pension reform and the Unified State Exam.

A win-win program for any party in the elections. I am for!

[Svarog]

Quote: Alex777

Citizens of the Russian Federation, although to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty, to strengthen the fight against corruption, as well as to cancel the pension reform and the Unified State Exam.

A win-win program for any party in the elections. I am for!

Before lifting the moratorium, you need to put things in order in the courts .. otherwise it will be a legal way to eliminate competitors .. or unwanted ones ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex777

Apparently the people who were asked were confused.

If you asked pensioners, it may be true, but if those who did not manage to retire, then it is not true.

[Alex777]

Surveys are conducted on a representative sample.
There are people of all ages, of course.
Specifically, I'm not very worried about the transfer of the Persian age.
My contemporaries "managed" to receive them.
I believe that the negative from the decision to postpone the deadline exceeds the positive.
Therefore, I supported this moment. For those who care.
But I support the abolition of the moratorium on execution (for a certain circle of maniacs who knowingly killed more than 2 people).
The most well-known example is Kushchevka. Cut out 2 families at once.
IMHO, it was necessary for them to be against the wall. And others like them too.
For many reasons, they thought they would go unpunished.
They eat crabs in the colony. This is wrong IMHO.
As for mistakes, yes, no one is immune.
Therefore, the execution of the sentence, in the same States, is postponed for a long time. I came across cases - up to 10 years.
The main thing is that there is no chance of getting out.
Unless suddenly proved that he is innocent.

[SVD68]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

that's all the strangeness, only 14% against the pension is fierce nonsense!

There, it seems, you could only choose one answer from the list. Someone chose to abolish raising the retirement age, others to tighten the fight against corruption, others to cancel the Unified State Exam, fourth ... etc.

[Svarog]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

VTsIOM is a little better than Levada, that's all the oddities, only 14% against the pensioner, it's fierce nonsense!

And this indirectly suggests that they are not going to cancel the pension reform ... but in general, there has been too much bullshit ... just what kind of other reality does the propagandists have ...

[Charik]

One RashaTudey eats for yards-why should they reality-for such grandmothers you can tell what you want

[Paranoid50]

Quote: military_cat

Weird headline,

For a sketch - quite yourself.

[Doccor18]

Quote: military_cat

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

I have only one question all the time. Where is VTsIOM conducting the survey? Where?!

At the same time, almost two-thirds of the respondents found it difficult to answer the question of what they would like to abolish in Russian legislation.

[mitroha]

Where is VTsIOM conducting the survey? Where?!

At VTsIOM, during lunch, apparently

[Doccor18]

Quote: Mitroha

At VTsIOM, during lunch, apparently

Not a fig for myself, collectivist ...

It was attended by 1 Russian citizens over the age of 600.

[mitroha]

Some, out of habit, were interviewed several times.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Mitroha

Some, out of habit, were interviewed several times.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Doccor18

Where is VTsIOM conducting the survey? Where?!

Among their employees, after distributing cheat sheets with the necessary answers.

[Machito]

Quote: military_cat

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

VTsIOM broke another bottom. Whom did they interview and what questions did they ask? It is obvious to me that the percentage of those wishing to amend the legislation on the issues raised is much higher. 14% of Russians want the cancellation of the pension reform and the cancellation of the increase in the retirement age? Use the method of Gleb Zheglov, go outside and conduct a survey yourself. I am sure that over 80% will support the cancellation of the pension reform. Why do the GDP and the authorities in general make such decisions unpopular among the people? Maybe they rely on the VTsIOM polls in their decision-making? There are effective managers everywhere, there are no professionals anywhere or they are pushed into the background.
VTsIOM, however, like Levada, is long overdue to disperse and ban it. FNPR joined the Popular Front. They fought with Germany - the German front, with Turkey - the Turkish front. Who is the Popular Front fighting with? With the people? Why are trade unions at war with the people on whose money they live? The vertical of power built by the GDP completely deprived it of feedback from the people. He does not know or does not want to know how the people live. Trade unions defend the interests of employers, not workers. People have no one to complain to.
... you will go to demand an increase,
Raise the Red Flag.
The gendarmes will seize, beat,
You will find out where the prison is,
And how the wells sing
When their path is far ... (S)

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Bearded

Why do the GDP and the authorities in general make such decisions unpopular among the people?

GDPR does not pass laws. At best, he voices some of them. Otherwise, I agree, with some reservations.

Quote: Bearded

The vertical of power built by the GDP completely deprived it of feedback from the people.

GDP builds a vertical on the imperial principle, which has both pros and cons. It is a mistake to think that the GDP has absolute power. He has to maneuver between many pitfalls and obvious attacks from the ultra-liberals. Despite the fact that he himself is a liberal, which he never hid. At the same time, I am almost sure that if you knock off the ultra-globalists of the GDP and the country will start screaming again, as in the 90s. Will go to the next transferred spheres of influence, all sorts of Khodorkovsky and other dandruff will return there, with all that it implies.
You must understand, I am not defending him. I am only saying that the “cook” approach to politics is harmful and even criminal. Do not oversimplify everything. We need to deal with the nuances that are not voiced to the broad masses and even try to hide.

[military_cat]

Quote: Al_lexx

GDPR does not pass laws.

He signs the adopted laws so that they come into force, and has the right not to sign them.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: military_cat

He signs the adopted laws so that they come into force, and has the right not to sign them.

Another thoughtlessness. Do you really think that he signs certain laws solely on the basis of his own ideas and desires?
However, why am I talking about this with you? Judging by your this statement, you still do not understand that Putin is as far from the autocracy of the emperor (whether it is Stalin or Alexander III, it does not matter), as well as your judgments about how the state apparatus of decision-making works. Alas, in a democratic state, unlike an autocratic empire, money decides everything, and here Putin does not own a controlling stake in the "Russia corporation."

[Piramidon]

Quote: Al_lexx

GDPR does not pass laws.

But he either approves them or vetoes them.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Piramidon

But he either approves them or vetoes them.

Dear Stepan, aka Pyramidon Batkovich. Yes, I understand it is difficult to be smart. It's much easier for stupid ones. Well, like a young lady. A certain thought seemed interesting to her and she immediately decides that this thought is the only correct one and everyone around should immediately think of it. ))

If VVP had such an opportunity, it would have shut down the same "Gorbachev Center" long ago and would not have bothered about its rating. And when he went down again, he closed the "Yeltsin Center." Yes, a lot of things I could do. But alas, as I already said, he does not own a controlling stake in the "corporation Russia", there are a lot of very rich and influential people around him who can seriously complicate his life. Those. yes, the GDP has many levers of influence, but it does not have absolute power and has no ability to make authoritarian decisions. Failure to understand this does not allow any adequate judgment about the domestic and foreign policy of our country and the forces that are fighting for power within it.

By the way. Give me at least one example when the GDP would have imposed its personal veto on a certain legislative initiative. Chess, speaking, I have not even heard such a word in his everyday life. Send for revision, yes, this has happened more than once. But blocking the law ... what an entertainer you are, however ..))

[Karabin]

Quote: Al_lexx

By the way. Give me at least one example when the GDP would have imposed its personal veto on a certain legislative initiative.

Why should he spend the veto when everything suits him.

If GDP had such an opportunity,

Come on, smart guy, about the possibilities. The GDP has the opportunity to rewrite the constitution for itself and reset to zero, but there is no law to block it. Do you believe in what you write about? You zaputintsev generally fucking understand. Either you prove that there is no more influential politician on Earth than Putin, then you present him as a helpless lamb surrounded by wolves. You would have decided something like that.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Karabin

Either you prove that there is no more influential politician on Earth than Putin, then you present him as a helpless lamb surrounded by wolves.

I just don't prove anything to anyone here. It is rather the prerogative of those like you, who know everything for sure and are absolutely sure that they are right. I just suggest that you think. But why the heck think when you already know everything?
And this .. no need to be rude, yeah yeah. "Zaputinets" .. will come up with too ..))
You at least carefully read what and what I am writing here before you hang up the labels.

[voyaka uh]

"there are a lot of very rich and influential people around him who can seriously complicate things" ///
----
If you consider the list of these rich and influential people by surname,
then it turns out that all of them - without exception - are personal friends of the president with
90s. All of them - without exception - became rich (very rich),
when Putin became president.
This is called - oligarchic semi-state undeveloped
(commodity) capitalism of the "Latin American type".
The regime relies on oligarch friends and the National Guard.

[Stas157]

Quote: Bearded

I am sure that more than 80% will support the cancellation of the pension reform. Why GDP and power generally make such decisions unpopular among the people?

Because people are the second oil. For a government that serves itself, not the people.

As real oil fell in price, and with it the gold-oil rain stopped, money began to be extracted at the expense of people.
The depreciation of the ruble, the emergence of new taxes and an increase in old ones, as well as the well-known pension robbery. But as they promised to raise pensions! But in reality, their purchasing power and dollar equivalent have only decreased.

But, Putin is still great with us! We love him with unreal love and are ready to forgive him, dear, everything! Everything, everything. Did I write correctly, zaputintsy? Give feedback.

[carstorm 11]

In such a desalination, interest is not checked. Apparently, the question was, what changes do you want without specifics.

[Russobel]

Quote: military_cat

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

As I understand it, it was a survey, not a list of questions for or against. So 2% is a big indicator.
If you asked for the death penalty or against, you would get an answer "for" 70 percent!

[military_cat]

Quote: Russobel

So 2% is a big indicator.
If you asked for the death penalty or against, you would get an answer "for" 70 percent!

And if so about the abolition of amendments to the Constitution, they asked, what percentage of those who named it in the poll would have turned "for"?

[Sergej1972]

I don't know, I personally know many people who are against the death penalty. Although I understand that, from the point of view of sociology, this does not really matter.

[Idunavs]

Yeah, and with 14% about the pension, they lie, as always, godlessly.

[Lionnvrsk]

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

Type-

[Lara Croft]

Quote: military_cat

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

It is strange that those over 18 were interviewed about the Unified State Exam ...

It was attended by 1 Russian citizens over the age of 600.

[Yngvar]

There is nothing strange about the cancellation of the USE according to the 18+ poll. For 15 years (USE since 2006), a whole generation of the USEvist sect has grown ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: military_cat

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

Here I am about the same: the title does NOT correspond to the text of the article and the numbers of the survey. TOTAL “14% want to cancel the pension reform and reduce the retirement age to the previous level” and as much as “2% -“ the introduction of the death penalty as a capital punishment. ”And the rest are AGAINST?

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: military_cat

A strange headline, if only 2% of respondents want to return the death penalty.

but it doesn't seem even stranger-

The poll was conducted by VTsIOM-Sputnik on March 12 by telephone interview... It was attended by 1 Russian citizens over the age of xnumx years.

what age was accurately established in a telephone interview ?!

Quote: Vladimir_2U

only 14% against pension

It was also proposed to adopt laws aimed at the development of the country.

I wonder what are these ?!

[Sergej1972]

According to the survey methodology, age is always asked there. Of course, unscrupulous people can give incorrect information about their age. But, on the other hand, why do they need it?

[Kaw]

The death penalty will first of all hang over the enemies of state power, that is, those who rebel against these very bribe-takers, embezzlers IMHO

[Thrifty]

The numbers are clearly underestimated, but the message is correct - both the abolition of the USE, and the pseudo-reform pension, as well as the return of the death penalty, is a vital necessity for the normal development of society.

[Egoza]

Quote: Thrifty

and the abolition of the exam, and the pseudo-reform of the pension, as well as the return of the death penalty is a vital necessity for the normal development of society.

it is possible to remind any "gentle and indignant" that in their beloved USA the death penalty is NOT ABOLISHED and no one is indignant!

[Sergej1972]

For federal crimes not abolished, but rarely applied. For crimes falling under state law - abolished in some states, retained in others. It seems that where there are more liberal rules for the possession of weapons, the death penalty is more often used. A kind of counterweight.

[Vadim237]

The exam will definitely not be canceled by anyone. Since it does not affect the quality of education, it is a universal tool for admission anywhere, depending on the points scored.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: rusich

I support the citizens of the Russian Federation. The death penalty for bribe-takers, embezzlers, corrupt officials, pedophiles. Reduce the retirement age

Well, until Smirnov deleted it, I'm with you!

[zloybond]

Add the death penalty for treason and undermining the constitutional order.

[Karabin]

Quote: zloybond

For treason to the Motherland and undermining the constitutional order, add

That way we will have no leadership.

[dgonni]

Stop!
Only this all happened in the 30s. The death penalty? Well Duc her lovers and threesomes shot.
And before that, they shot and evicted the darkness of the people, breaking the entire system of agriculture and industry.
And then when did Stalin shoot the bulk of their party nomenklatura with the hands of the Jews? They called it a great terror.
P.S. any! Any aspiration turns first of all to the lower echelons! And then if the authorities are smart enough, they will eliminate presumptuous performers.
The first example is the French Revolution. The initial goal and calls turned into wild terror.
A revolution in Russia?
Terror up to a year old commercials 52-53.
But mostly already in the highest echelons of power.
In the 30s, the darkness of the people was sent into oblivion.
And if anyone thinks that the higher echelons will shoot bribe?
Then I strongly doubt it!
Shoot a trifle! A type of shooting bringing money and from the elite?
Who has textiles now?

[nnm]

It has been known since ancient times that the effectiveness of punishment lies not in its cruelty, but in its inevitability. It is possible to introduce at least a hundredfold execution for corruption, but only who will be shot? A couple of demonstrative executions of middle-ranking officials and that's it. Well, the system cannot come to itself in such matters. And one more classic question - "who are the judges?"

[Flooding]

Quote: rusich

I support the citizens of the Russian Federation. Death penalty to bribe-takers, embezzlers, corrupt officials, pedophiles

drug dealers
with regard to children, the death penalty for organizers of child prostitution and pornography, child traffickers

[Svarog]

Surprising poll .. only 14% want to cancel the pension reform Judging by such a low percentage of Russians who want to cancel the pension reform .. this will not happen ..

[Lycan]

Quote: rusich

I support the citizens of the Russian Federation. Death penalty to bribe-takers, embezzlers, corrupt officials

It would be very out of place .. if it were not for the "control and corruption" of Themis. These categories you listed - they do not sit out "life". Here Ulyukaev will soon be released, but he, what - has improved? Unlikely. But after the release he will be able to help other "Chubais with Gaidars". Maybe indirectly. And Kudrin, and Serdyukov and Vasilyeva are generally not subject to jurisdiction, although they have done things. So if they accept the "tower", then they will not apply this measure to those who need it. So, "a bone will be thrown to the people" to relieve nervous tension (convinced terrorists, for example, will be put to sleep), and the parasites will continue their work, because they allow themselves to become parasites when they become "irreplaceable" or "people of the inner circle." They will not, in fact, let into the expense of all those who are "severely branded" by the street hunters.

[Sergej1972]

And what did Kudrin do with you? As far as I know, he has never been involved in corruption scandals. And the opposition of various kinds has never accused him of crimes. Disagreement with the monetary policy pursued by him during the leadership of the Ministry of Finance is not a reason for criminal prosecution.

[Lycan]

This type should be dealt with deeper and longer. But his deeds are still harmful.
Here are general sketches about his work:
rossaprimavera.ru/news/0b39e135
izborsk-club.ru/17048
www.znak.com/2016-05-30/kritiki_alekseya_kudrina_gotovyat_k_pechati_ego_antibiografiyu

[The leader of the Redskins]

According to the survey, I am an average Russian.
They just won't get it all back. Maybe they'll throw a small bone - so that they don't grumble loudly ...

[NDR-791]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Maybe they'll throw a small bone

Before the elections, they will definitely throw something. You just need to listen carefully to what they will start singing about. Butter-sugar again? Or gasoline? Gasoline has risen in price by 2% since the new year, why would that be ???

[tralflot1832]

The option of lowering excise taxes on fuel is a win-win before the elections! Maybe they will come up with something else.

[210ox]

What? What about the budget? Rather, they will increase, not decrease. Who is interested in the opinion of the "electorate"?

[tralflot1832]

And not the planned income from vaccines for a couple of years. Contracts are signed by the state through the agency for the development of international relations. It is not for nothing that this poll was started. The closer the elections, the more active the VCIOM Sputnik will be. Money for the "bun" will be found, the question is what.

[Glory1974]

The option of lowering excise taxes on fuel is a win-win before the elections!

The cost of 92 gasoline on wholesale purchases reached 55 rubles per ton. It’s scary to think what will happen if they begin to regulate it.

[nnm]

And everything is simply done (and on paper it has even been done a long time ago) - an obligation is established for oil producers to prioritize the sale of products on the wholesale market within the country (on paper, it has been done, in fact, producers throw an insignificant amount into such a market under unacceptable conditions, they are constantly pushing the issue into the government that would not increase the quotas), the tax clears dozens of intermediaries in the sales chain (done in relation to small traders, large companies of the Federal Tax Service to touch and shave) and that's it.
The very essence of the problem is simple - 1. Export is more profitable for manufacturers 2. Numerous "gaskets".
The question is that nobody will touch these sacred cows of the budget. We are "human oil", therefore, they will not think about our well-being, but about how to take more from our pockets.

[tralflot1832]

Maybe, like in Kazakhstan, there are fewer excise taxes on it.

[NDR-791]

Quote: tralflot1832

Maybe, like in Kazakhstan, there are fewer excise taxes on it.

From whom will you order ??? Every penny of excise tax belongs to someone

[tralflot1832]

With every little money, joy to the electorate.

[Aag]

Quote: glory1974

The option of lowering excise taxes on fuel is a win-win before the elections!

The cost of 92 gasoline on wholesale purchases reached 55 rubles per ton. It’s scary to think what will happen if they begin to regulate it.

Just on the radio: "... analysts predict a shortage of fuel in the domestic market due to an increase in demand and an increase in prices in the foreign market ... ... however, someone there assured that this will not happen, they say, sufficient supplies ... "
Hold on to the farmers, you will be sowing! All the rest, the prices for food and fuel! We haven't had another way yet ...

[Sergej1972]

The main thing is that large agricultural holdings have money for fuel, and farmers in most regions (at least in Central Russia) are a trifle that does not make the difference.

[Aag]

Quote: Sergej1972

The main thing is that large agricultural holdings have money for fuel, and farmers in most regions (at least in Central Russia) are a trifle that does not make the difference.

I do not agree that the "main thing".
Agricultural holdings are good, and in some cases appropriate. But this is another step towards monopolization (as with retail chains, for example), with all the consequences (corporate collusion, etc.). Sometimes people from other districts, regions work in them, sometimes on a rotational basis. Accordingly, on the ecology, other issues, - them ... indirectly. Of course, it is better than cucumbers from China, tomatoes from Turkey. But farmers should not spread rot!
"... this is a trifle that does not make the weather."
Yes, the people seem to have "not done the weather" for a long time. But farmers, more often than not, live in their small homeland, give work to their fellow countrymen, support life in the outback ... Of course, loans (for the mentioned fuel, equipment) are not so available to them (administrative resources are usually not available). most importantly, it is more difficult to sell products ...
Surely, in each region in its own way. According to the limited experience of their friends, according to some stories in the media, it turns out like this ...

[Lech from Android.]

Or gasoline? Gasoline has risen in price by 2% since the new year, why would that be ??? wassat

With gasoline, the Accounts Chamber is frightening with a new crisis.
https://www.rbc.ru/business/17/03/2021/60514c989a79474018d03cff

In general, life is becoming more fun and more fun ... the neck is getting thinner ... but longer.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NDR-791

Before the elections, they will definitely throw something

I think lowering the price of gasoline will no longer work, something more substantial is needed. For example, the rollback of the pension reform. The power is now really on the edge, and they can go on such a move so that the people do not raise them to the pitchfork.

[Svarog]

Quote: Ingvar 72

The authorities are now really on the edge, they can go on such a move so that the people do not raise them to the pitchfork.

If they were really going to cancel the pension reform ... then VTsIOM would have shown not 14% of Russians ... but 99,9 ... and so supposedly the bulk of them are satisfied ..

[Ingvar 72]

Nevertheless, as a last resort, they can take such an unprecedented move in order to raise the frozen Vovin's rating and retain power. Although I think that such a solution will not help them very much. Too many people have already become disillusioned with this power, and are unlikely to buy even such a handout.

[Svarog]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Too many people have already become disillusioned with this power, and are unlikely to buy even such a handout.

Moreover, it (the retirement age) can be raised again in a couple of years .. Time was changed three times .. here and there .. and here such a problem will not arise ..

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Svarog

Moreover, it (the retirement age) can be raised again in a couple of years

Naturally!

[Aag]

Quote: NDR-791

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Maybe they'll throw a small bone

Before the elections, they will definitely throw something. You just need to listen carefully to what they will start singing about. Butter-sugar again? Or gasoline? Gasoline has risen in price by 2% since the new year, why would that be ???

They have already started singing ... From today's radio broadcast:
"... from tomorrow, the all-Russian training of remote elections begins ..."
"... the State Duma considers it possible to make Cosmonautics Day, Teachers 'Day, Medical Workers' Day festive non-working days ... this fits into the concept of a 4-day working week ..." (they probably really think that electricity lives in sockets , bread in supermarkets is growing ..)))

[APASUS]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

They just won't get it all back. Maybe they'll throw a small bone - so that they don't grumble loudly ...

They will not be thrown! It is not for nothing that the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other structures did not fall under the pension reform, but why?
The answer is obvious.

[paul3390]

And apparently, the newly introduced death penalty is generally proposed by citizens to be applied to those who, in particular, pulled off the pension reform and the Unified State Exam ..

[Aerodrome]

Quote: paul3390

And apparently, the newly introduced death penalty is generally proposed by citizens to be applied to those who, in particular, pulled off the pension reform and the Unified State Exam ..

I would like to. but no ... it doesn’t happen. matches ... dreams ...

[Eldorado]

"All of them are prisons and lies and fire to heaven!" Zhanna Bichevskaya
It is high time the people do not come to their senses and the people do not return the only legitimate ruler of Russia - the monarch, then this will be the only mockery in Russia.

[paul3390]

the only legitimate ruler of Russia - the monarch

And then, who has been polishing the throne with trousers for 20 years now?

[hagen]

Quote: paul3390

And then, who has been polishing the throne with trousers for 20 years now?

The monarchs of the neighbors change systematically. What's better?

[Vadim237]

Putin was president for 16 years - 4 years from 2008 to 2012, Medvedev was president. 2024 marks the 20th anniversary of Putin's presidency.

[Lech from Android.]

will not return the only legitimate ruler of Russia - the monarch,

Ofonareli or something ... to return Nicholas 2 from the other world ... we still didn't have enough afterlife monarchs on our necks.

[Glory1974]

return Nicholas 2 from the other world ...

Prince Harry is entitled to the succession to the throne. In addition, he seems to have secretly converted to Orthodoxy.

[Altona]

Quote: glory1974

Prince Harry is entitled to the succession to the throne. In addition, he seems to have secretly converted to Orthodoxy.

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So what? By the age of 50, you decided to enroll in slaves and so that you were flogged on Saturdays at the stable? Doesn't today's 20 years of permanent rule of one person look like a monarchy? When only the name was formally changed, there was a transition from the king to the crown princes, and now he joined the regents under the future ruler with the team of his elders.

[Glory1974]

So what?

And the fact that a group of people continues to work through the monarchist project.
about the slave, this is not for me.

Doesn't today's 20 years of permanent rule of one person look like a monarchy? When only the name was formally changed, there was a transition from the king to the crown princes, and now he joined the regents under the future ruler with the team of his elders.

The presidency of Bush the father and Bush the son, the Clintons, the Kennedy and other near-power families, not to mention other countries, look more like a monarchy.

[tralflot1832]

With the Monarch it is somehow sad, with EBN they were vilified with some, and where are they?

[Lech from Android.]

With the Monarch it is somehow sad, with EBN they were vilified with some, and where are they?

Yes, we have a fun life with every monarch ... people are not allowed to be bored.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: tralflot1832

With the Monarch, it is somehow sad, with EBN with some diarrheago, and where are they?

that is yes ...

[forty-eighth]

I agree. Russia - a monarch, me - a count, ten villages and five hundred souls. I will flog and keep strict. In a word, no liberalism and any State Department liberties.

[Van 16]

"14 percent of Russians want to cancel the pension reform"

Maybe I didn't understand something, where did they conduct the survey, in the Kremlin? What is 14 percent? Rather, they are those who support the pension reform.

[Volodin]

Well this is such a poll ... They didn't ask directly if you want to cancel the pension reform. Therefore, apparently, whoever, when calling VTsIOM, immediately remembered such a reform, he spoke out

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Volodin

Well this is such a poll ... They didn't ask directly if you want to cancel the pension reform. Therefore, apparently, whoever, when calling VTsIOM, immediately remembered such a reform, he spoke out

Normal people ignore calls from unknown numbers or drop them, equating them to fraudulent ones. It is possible to draw conclusions about the "interviewed".

[Volodin]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Normal people ignore or reject calls from unknown numbers, equating them to fraudulent ones. You can draw conclusions about the "interviewed"

Interesting logic ... Again, people are to blame ... That is, all Russians participating in polls of sociological monitoring services are abnormal? Even those who spoke out in favor of canceling the pension reform ... That's bad luck, but I also took part 2 years ago ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Volodin

That is, all Russians participating in polls of sociological monitoring services are abnormal? Even those who spoke out in favor of canceling the pension reform ..

Normal of those polled by VTsIOM it turned out to be 14%.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Volodin

Well this is such a poll ... They didn't ask directly if you want to cancel the pension reform. Therefore, apparently, whoever, when calling VTsIOM, immediately remembered such a reform, he spoke out

It would be interesting to look at the results if such a poll (vote) was conducted on a VO, where there is a public of different views and beliefs. VTsIOM would be very surprised, since the% ratio of the results obtained for the abolition of the pension reform and the return of the death penalty, the abolition of the Unified State Exam, was very different upward from their indicators.

[Aerodrome]

all polls are carried out in the corridors and buffets of the Kremlin and Gazprom ...

[Antidote]

It is very naive to believe that there is an audience of different views and beliefs on VO, it is like a survey among Internet users about the use of the Internet.

[Lech from Android.]

It is very naive to believe that there is an audience of different views and beliefs on VO.

Nothing of the kind ... among our members of the forum ... full of different audiences ... here you have communists and monarchists and socialists, red whites, greens, atheists, believers, patriots, unpatriots, cosmopolitans, democrats ... supporters of different parties according to their statements can be safely said from which party they are and whose views they adhere to ... a special part is foreign forum users here the picture is also no less interesting.
I love VO for such a variety.

[Aag]

Quote: Lech from Android.

It is very naive to believe that there is an audience of different views and beliefs on VO.

Nothing of the kind ... among our members of the forum ... full of different audiences ... here you have communists and monarchists and socialists, red whites, greens, atheists, believers, patriots, unpatriots, cosmopolitans, democrats ... supporters of different parties according to their statements can be safely said from which party they are and whose views they adhere to ... a special part is foreign forum users here the picture is also no less interesting.
I love VO for such a variety.

"... I love VO for such a variety ..."
This is yes ... Only the manner of communication of some suggests that in the event of a mess, they will begin to water each other not with slops, but with machine guns ... And this is only about our fellow citizens ... ((

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Antidote

It is very naive to believe that there is an audience of different views and beliefs on VO.

Hmm, here sometimes such battles unfold over the preferences of which political system is better, about the change of power and other issues, what to wear a helmet at the time. It is strange that in three years of your presence on the site, you did not notice this.
And the topics outlined in the article are, as it were, neutral and relevant for everyone, regardless of preferences. Agree that a liberal, or a communist, is equally opposed to raising the retirement age, and the realization that some inveterate pedophile killer, or a Beslan terrorist killer of innocent schoolchildren gets a sentence instead of a well-deserved bullet, contradicts the concept of justice.

[Antidote]

For 3 years, I just noticed that with some fluctuations, the general line adheres. General phantom pains for the lost empire, enemies all around, hatred from those who have no analogues in the world. Try to doubt, and that's it, mixed with dung.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Antidote

For 3 years, I just noticed that with some fluctuations, the general line adheres. General phantom pains for the lost empire, enemies all around, hatred from those who have no analogues in the world. Try to doubt and that's it, mixed with dung.

Well, you see, and you say -

Quote: Antidote

It is very naive to believe that there is an audience of different views on VO.

If a doubter is confused, then the audience is not homogeneous and different views of the public still exist.

[Altona]

Quote: Volodin

They didn't ask directly if you wanted to cancel the pension reform.

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It is necessary to cancel all legislative innovations over the past 20 years, because they erode the very concept of law. "Unintended corruption" appeared, "uncoordinated actions" and "undesirable organizations" appeared, "criminal offense" and other legal nonsense appeared, which creates loopholes for the powerful and too broad interpretation.

[Aag]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Volodin

They didn't ask directly if you wanted to cancel the pension reform.

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It is necessary to cancel all legislative innovations over the past 20 years, because they erode the very concept of law. "Unintended corruption" appeared, "uncoordinated actions" and "undesirable organizations" appeared, "criminal offense" and other legal nonsense appeared, which creates loopholes for the powerful and too broad interpretation.

And then there are a lot of special titles, positions, hastily hung with state awards that imply immunity ...

[Woodman]

Perhaps the comment will be corrected, but someone somewhere is wrong - either the title or the article under the title

Poll by VTsIOM: citizens of the Russian Federation want to return the death penalty and

Citizens of the Russian Federation, although abolish the death penalty,

Next

A VTsIOM poll showed that 14 percent of Russians want to cancel the pension reform and lower the retirement age to the previous level.

Somehow they counted a little. Chessword on this issue, the figure of 14% is much more surprising than if there was a figure of 140%.

[New Year day]

14 percent Russians want to cancel the pension reform and reduce the retirement age to the previous level.

2 more percent - for the introduction of the death penalty as the highest measure of criminal punishment.

Such a loud title of the article with such figures!

... At the same time, almost two-thirds of the respondents found it difficult to answer the question of what they would like to abolish in Russian legislation.

Life is great, everything is going great

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Look for such nonsense. There you can still believe it to add zero to each percent. And so it turns out a very small number wants to cancel the pension reform, the abolition of constitutional changes, and so on. In short, the usual VTsIOM.

[NDR-791]

And you have to be able to ask this !!! They ask about the retirement age of an eighteen-year-old, about the abolition of the death penalty from a maniac under investigation, about toughening up for corruption from an official. Telephone poll, available database

[Woodman]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

In short, the usual VTsIOM

Perhaps VTsIOM is not to blame. Perhaps the respondents did indeed answer in a similar way. Here, rather, sophisticated trolling by the author of the article or copywriter. For it is not VTsIOM that writes the corresponding comments to the results obtained.

[mojohed2012]

The death penalty will not be returned, otherwise the new Serdyukovs and other guardians of corruption may fall under it by accident.
Their sons can also get there.

[Aag]

Quote: mojohed2012

The death penalty will not be returned, otherwise the new Serdyukovs and other guardians of corruption may fall under it by accident.
Their sons can also get there.

Do you believe in randomness at those levels?
Who needs to be insured with immunity in the form of special, titles, positions, state awards.

[Rubi0]

That is, 86% of percent either do not mind or do not care about the principle of the pension. This is positive, they are slowly weaning from freebies and the idea that the state at 45-50 will give everyone according to their needs, but we must work harder ourselves.

[Roma 1977]

... but you yourself have to work better and harder to die safely at 65 ...

[Rubi0]

Well, judging by your comet, you belong to those 14% who are in favor of canceling the reform)) it's good that you are a minority

[taiga2018]

Well, the citizens of the Russian Federation want a lot of things, for example, they want the monument to Dzerzhinsky to be returned to its place, but one citizen of the Russian Federation Sobyanin came out and said that everything will remain the same ... Citizens of the Russian Federation want the republics of Donbass to be included in Russia, but not much a group of Russians are against and then the opinion even though 90% of the rest of the citizens is worth nothing ... Citizens of Russia have a lot of hobbyists, but who will listen to them ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: taiga2018

Citizens of Russia have a lot of people, but who will listen to them ...

Maybe the real power comes from the people - the source of power.

Article 3
1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

[Ronald Reagan]

Want is not harmful.
I am in favor of raising the retirement age to the maximum possible limit. You need to work, not rest on your laurels. For example, in the states, Trump promoted the slogan - "Job! Job! Job!", And not a word about benefits.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Ronald Reagan

Want is not harmful.
I am in favor of raising the retirement age to the maximum possible limit. You need to work, not rest on your laurels. For example, in the states, Trump promoted the slogan - "Job! Job! Job!", And not a word about benefits.

yes put on your states ...

[Roma 1977]

The maximum possible limit of the retirement age was calculated back in the USSR. And now this limit has been raised so that corny more people do not live to see the moment when they could start receiving money that they contributed to the pension fund throughout their working life. "It was yours - it is ours",

[Glory1974]

You need to work, not rest on your laurels.

So no one is against working. Give the promised 25 million jobs with decent wages. Otherwise, our working people are at the same time beggars, and after the pension reform they stopped living up to a beggarly pension.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Ronald Reagan

For example, in the states

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Ronald Reagan

up to the maximum possible limit.

To death or what? Although he is already around this age.

[Aag]

Quote: Ronald Reagan

Want is not harmful.
I am in favor of raising the retirement age to the maximum possible limit. You need to work, not rest on your laurels. For example, in the states, Trump promoted the slogan - "Job! Job! Job!", And not a word about benefits.

At the same time, Trump created a lot of Job-places!
And not just what needs to be created ...
And he did not take away the already earned pensions, did not count them!

[Reserve buildbat]

Judging by the article, 32% of the respondents answered the questions. The rest sent interviewers to a known address.

[apro]

Somehow they called from vtsom. But the questions were mainly about politics and the Internet. The submission of questions was somewhat puzzled. Indirect. With illogical answers.

[Aag]

Quote: apro

Somehow they called from vtsom. But the questions were mainly about politics and the Internet. The submission of questions was somewhat puzzled. Indirect. With illogical answers.

They called a couple of times ...

[rocket757]

Poll by VTsIOM: citizens of the Russian Federation want to return the death penalty and cancel the pension reform

So you can choose when to conduct polls, and how to ask questions !!! Those. pretty much program the answer you want!

[tatra]

The essence of the article contradicts the title of the article. What can you expect from Putin's VTsIOM, which has only 14% of citizens against raising the retirement age.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: tatra

The essence of the article contradicts the title of the article.

These are all enemies of the communists - their handwriting, definitely.

[Ruslan Sulima]

Smiled about the exam)
It is clear that it is not the most successful form of knowledge assessment. But with the same success it can be said that the Russians are in favor of the abolition of all school education, because there is a certain part that does not want to study, and not only at school, but also in life. You could also gain a couple of percent, as with the death penalty.

[Dimide]

You have cool numbers in the polls. Based on them, we can conclude that the majority are satisfied with the existing order of things. Although it seems to me that, for example, raising the retirement age is not welcomed by much more than 14% of the population

[Antidote]

Quote: zloybond

Add the death penalty for treason and undermining the constitutional order.

And anyone who disagrees with the actions of the authorities to bring under this article and shoot? This will be very easy with an "independent" court.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The Unified State Exam and the cancellation of the pension reform is understandable. But there is no need to rush to return the death penalty. We have already shot one instead of Chikatilo. There is no guarantee that there will be no investigative or judicial errors.

[Aag]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

The Unified State Exam and the cancellation of the pension reform is understandable. But there is no need to rush to return the death penalty. We have already shot one instead of Chikatilo. There is no guarantee that there will be no investigative or judicial errors.

Like, not one.
And Chikatil was a lot different ...

[Basarev]

The execution should not be returned, at least until there is absolute confidence in the judicial system. She will have to launder her reputation for a long time.

[Ross xnumx]

Why do you need to write this:

VTsIOM poll: citizens of the Russian Federation want to return the death penalty and cancel the pension reform

If it goes right there:

Citizens of the Russian Federation although abolish the death penalty, to strengthen the fight against corruption, as well as to cancel the pension reform and the Unified State Exam. This conclusion can be drawn from the results of a survey conducted by VTsIOM.

Maybe you should write:
Citizens of the Russian Federation want to lift the moratorium on the death penalty, strengthen the fight against corruption ...
Moreover, the source says:

MOSCOW, 17 MAR - RIA News. Russians would like to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty in modern Russia, to toughen the punishment for corruption, to abolish the pension reform and the Unified State Exam, as well as to reduce taxes, according to the results of the VTsIOM poll.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

to cancel the pension reform, everything needs to be changed, the pension system that existed in the USSR can only work with universal employment and the absence of gray schemes

[Aag]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

to cancel the pension reform, everything needs to be changed, the pension system that existed in the USSR can only work with universal employment and the absence of gray schemes

That's right!
So I put a broader concept in the abolition of the pension reform - job creation, adequate taxation - so that it is profitable to work honestly, to be able to keep honestly earned, further down the list ...
Remember how some squealed about the lack of pensions in China! And China, won’t, has introduced pensions and tax breaks.

[Sergej1972]

And China is also raising the retirement age. This is also a fact. And without any discussion.

[Aag]

Quote: Sergej1972

And China is also raising the retirement age. This is also a fact. And without any discussion.

Why then? Are you writing here to discuss a question, or to spread your (?) Opinion? But have already checked in a video on the networks, in which VVP assured that while he was President, there would be no increase .... Or was it "reset" to the edge? Well, I would have adequately substantiated it! Otherwise, it turns out like "there is no money, but you are holding on ..." The date of the announcement also warped - the opening of the World Cup in Russia ... In foreign policy, they would be so dodgy! this is at the insistence of the IMF ...
Coming back to my comment. At the same time, the Nightingales insisted on the absence of a pension in China (why should we be guided by China?) In this plan, they took all the best that the USSR had developed, figured out the current balance of power (their own, first of all, and their problems) in the world found their priorities, strengths, - for this they "sharpened" their ideology, taxation, economy ...
I may be wrong, please correct, if not right. It seems like, now, almost all segments of the population of retirement age receive certain payments ... (and even those who have long earned money on the construction of oligarchs, and, apparently, a number of officials).
Well, how can the minimum pension not cover the costs of housing and communal services + the minimum consumer basket?
IMHO: the Russian people (in the broadest sense) are docile, patient .... At the same time, they have a strong demand for justice (with this now the enemies are fighting intensively, comprehensively).
I don't really hope for an answer, but let's, at least in some communities, form ... "the desires, aspirations of the people ?!
(Before the elections, - the electorate of the Russian Federation))) ...

[Vadim237]

And even then this money will not be enough for a decent old age.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

The ruling class will not listen to the voice of the people ... To go to a meeting, even to these modest wishes, is like shooting yourself.

[SergeyIV]

Propaganda lies from VTsIOM! I don't know a single person who would be at a loss to answer what the authorities should do: everyone says (whom I know) to introduce the death penalty to embezzlers and corrupt officials, everyone is for the abolition of the pension reform and the initiators behind bars. And yet I do not know of any of my friends that someone would vote for the adopted constitution (people simply do not understand where those wild percentages of those who voted for).

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: SergeyIV

all for the cancellation of the pension reform

I am the same, but it's not real, without a coordinated change of labor relations

[Altona]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

I am the same, but it's not real, without a coordinated change of labor relations

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And let the natural rent and the exported capital remain so for the oligarchs? Don't you see them as an aid to citizens' retirement? Moreover, retirement does not need any exorbitant amounts. And why some security officials work for their seniority 24 hours a day, although they also work 8 hours and often in the office, they retire almost at the age of 35. And the hard worker must pull the strap up to 65 years old. Moreover, the pension fund is filled by a hard worker, not a security official. And why should we pay pensions to citizens of Israel, Uzbekistan and a number of other countries? Maybe you also need to reconsider some kind of relationship?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Altona

And let the natural rent and the exported capital remain so for the oligarchs? Don't you see them as an aid to citizens' retirement?

I am considering pension contributions

Quote: Altona

And why some security officials work for their seniority 24 hours a day, although they also work 8 hours and often in the office, they retire almost at the age of 35.

probably because at any moment they can be sent to die

Quote: Altona

Moreover, the pension fund is filled by a hard worker, not a security official.

do not write nonsense if you do not know how it happens

Quote: Altona

And why should we pay pensions to citizens of Israel, Uzbekistan and a number of other countries?

I already understood that you have no idea about what you are writing about

[Altona]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

do not write nonsense if you do not know how it happens

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You write nonsense and do not be rude to your opponent, otherwise I can also send you your favorite sheep to graze. And among the "siloviks" I didn't see those running to die, they quietly merged the USSR and nothing, although they swore an oath.
PS And you have no idea what you are writing about and you can only be rude. A lot is paid from the Pension Fund, and not all pensions are made up of pension contributions. Rather, someone deducts, and someone receives a pension, the same disabled since childhood, for example.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Altona

You are writing nonsense and you shouldn't be rude to your opponent.

this is a statement of fact
if you are talking nonsense about the fact that civil servants receive their pensions from your pocket, then what should you write, that you are a great fellow and write smart things ?!
or about your absolute lack of knowledge about interstate agreements on pensions

[Altona]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

this is a statement of fact
if you are talking nonsense about the fact that civil servants receive their pensions from your pocket, then what should you write, that you are a great fellow and write smart things ?!
or about your absolute lack of knowledge about interstate agreements on pensions

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You are carrying even more fierce delirium and it is far from the fact that the pension provision should be built according to the concepts of a certain Vasilenko. Today's system is flawed and dead-end. Well, let's take it as a fact that the current pension provision is built according to the concepts of a certain conventional farmer who knows exactly how much feed to put into it and for whom. And this farmer has his own local idea of ​​interstate relations, budget replenishment and other subtleties.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Altona

it is not a fact that pensions should be built according to the concepts of a certain Vasilenko

damn what have I to do with it you heresy write about the fact that you pay a pension to the security forces

Quote: Altona

Okay, let's take it as a fact that the current pension provision is built according to the notions of a certain conventional farmer.

even though you don’t know a damn thing about economics, you don’t know how to read

[Altona]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

damn what have I to do with it you heresy write about the fact that you pay a pension to the security forces

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Learn to speak Russian first and master the basics of ethics at last. Try to remember that in the discussion you must not slip into personalities and use the words "you are talking nonsense", "well done" and so on. I know what I am writing, so I suggest that you write on the merits, and not discuss the merits of my personality. If you have security officials fill the budget, then it's the finish. Learn the basics of economics first.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Altona

I know what I am writing

in the sense that civil servants receive pensions from your pocket?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Altona

If you have security officials fill the budget, then it's the finish. Learn the basics of economics first.

learn to distinguish between different items of expenditure, and only after that you will be clever, otherwise it turns out that your pension is paid by me

[Altona]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

learn to distinguish between different items of expenditure, and only after that you will be clever, otherwise it turns out that your pension is paid by me

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Why is that? Such a powerful chtoli farmer? I release mounted equipment for 30 lamas monthly. Learn to oppose first. The pension fund even pays maternity capital. He also pays pensions to security officials, and they are on the budget. And who replenishes the budget? Really machine guns and batons?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Altona

Why is that? Such a powerful chtoli farmer?

I say absolutely illiterate in this matter
who buys this from you? that's right, farmers, so it turns out that it is you who are kept by the farmers

Quote: Altona

And who replenishes the budget? Really machine guns and batons?

judging by your knowledge, at best, you are a watchman at the factory

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Altona

He also pays pensions to security officials, and they are on the budget.

they deduct pensions from their salary, which they themselves earned

[Sergej1972]

Damn, how many you can refer to friends. I myself and most of my friends and family voted for the amendments. But both mine and your example are not significant from a sociological point of view. Large amounts of data are required here.

[Knell wardenheart]

Given the current state of our judicial system, the return of the death penalty will be far more epic than 1937. It will definitely not be better from this - in addition to dozens of pedophiles, thousands of self-defense surpluses, agreed and substituted people will fly into the furnace.
So it's such an idea ... It is impossible to strengthen the fight against bribery in this system, because we have legal loopholes that allow us to scatter property on funds, distant relatives and chargé d'affaires, we have cash, we have a web of state monopolies, finally, we have a very cool "Byzantine" legislation, according to which "income and income are not the same (c) Shaposhnikov" on the one hand, on the other hand, for the state, business is not much different from fraud, which was shown by the repeated landings of different startups level.

So I'm afraid that all these are patriotic convulsions - pulling the lever to the right and to the left does not change much if the lever itself does not work.

[Vadim237]

The death penalty will be introduced only for the premeditated murder of one or more persons embezzling state funds in large volumes, terrorist activities - and serial rapists will remain in prison until the end of their days.

[Knell wardenheart]

Sounds awesome! In practice, embezzlement of state funds in our country is often arranged in such a way that it is unrealistic to distinguish such embezzlement from inept management. how it worked perfectly in the situation with Serdyukov.

Terrorist activity? An example is the so-called Moscow case, with these "kids" who were organized by a provocateur - from a legal point of view, these are terrorists, practically indistinguishable from some Basayev. In the case of a vaguely drawn line between real terrorists and a petty flirting husk, we also run the risk of facing an inflection point in this area, when a lot of people are crushed on far-fetched affairs.

In an environment when laws are growing like mushrooms after rain, soldering criminal cases for some kind of "insults" or rallies - I am afraid that the return of the death penalty will not be beneficial, and very soon its application will be expanded, so to speak. So no, I don't see anything good in that.
We should thoroughly redo and concretize the legislative framework and not tighten the nuts before the threads break.

[Vadim237]

No, it is worthwhile to show the executions once and the crime will sharply decline.

[syndicalist]

It is a pity that the survey did not specify the group of subjects to whom the death penalty is applicable. I believe that people are planning to apply it primarily to the current bearers of power.

[Ros 56]

And it is imperative to return the education that was under the USSR, naturally reworked.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

It's funny - judging by the title and the text under it, it is the victim of the Unified State Exam who fights on VO as a newsman.

[Evil 55]

That few too counted ... These are the desires of 95 percent of Russians, with all the questions asked ..

[GUSAR]

With the current courts and law enforcement? What a death penalty, what are you talking about ...

[Peaceful SEO]

Damn, you are like children, honestly :) I understand that the overwhelming majority of commentators are local people of retirement or pre-retirement age, and for you, the pension reform is both important and relevant. And for a Russian over 18, if at the same time he is also under 30, this reform did not fall at all. Therefore, in the polls, there will be nothing about the abolition of the pension reform.
So everything is correct in numbers: how many pence were polled, so is the percentage for cancellation.

[Altona]

Quote: Peaceful SEO

Damn, you are like children, honestly :) I understand that the overwhelming majority of commentators are local people of retirement or pre-retirement age, and for you, the pension reform is both important and relevant.

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Why? Those who are just taking their first steps should also have a pension in the future. Pension is the state's respect for its old people. Your life will fly by like a moment, you yourself will not notice.

[yfast]

It can be concluded that the citizens of Russia want to return the death penalty to those who take bribes, introduced a pension reform and came up with the Unified State Exam.

[Amur]

Forgot to clarify that the survey was conducted on Mars, where
14 percent do not need a pension, they will not survive.

[Vadim237]

Raising the retirement age is a worldwide trend, and Russia has 46 million retirees no exception. Even the Chinese are raising it.

[Narak-zempo]

I think a compromise is needed.
The death penalty is imposed for calls for the abolition of the pension reform and amendments to the Constitution.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

VTsIOM is a little better than Levada, that's all the oddities

Removed from the tongue.
These polls are a penny.
They censor the opinion of the people for their own fucking benefit.
And the most vile thing is that they cover up their vile deeds with this information noise.

And they swear allegiance to Israel or Britain:

"The guys took the oath:" I swear by Almighty God that, having become a citizen of Great Britain, I will be faithful to Her Majesty. I will give my loyalty to Great Britain, I will defend democratic values, and I will conscientiously fulfill my duties as a citizen of Great Britain. "
https://t.me/infobomb/447

[zwlad]

A VTsIOM poll showed that 14 percent of Russians want to cancel the pension reform and lower the retirement age to the previous level.

The couple underestimate the data then. Oh, they underestimate. Every 5.

[Looking for]

I wonder what the editors are doing. In the title of the article, Russians are for the return of the death penalty, and in the first lines of the article itself, they want to abolish the death penalty.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Incvizitor

Liberators and traitors at the same time.

You didn't mean the king?

The former communist shape-shifter, betrayed communist ideas and began to serve the oligarchs' cronies, being at the same time the main liberal of Russia.

He does not serve, but headed, gave everything to his friends and retains power, including courts, law enforcement, puppet government, etc.

[Vadim237]

"I gave everything to my friends" - What friends did he give what?

[Peaceful SEO]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Peaceful SEO

Damn, you are like children, honestly :) I understand that the overwhelming majority of commentators are local people of retirement or pre-retirement age, and for you, the pension reform is both important and relevant.

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Why? Those who are just taking their first steps should also have a pension in the future. Pension is the state's respect for its old people. Your life will fly by like a moment, you yourself will not notice.

I understand that perfectly. But, young people are absolutely not interested in this. Youth is immortal ... until old age comes

[petrol cutter]

"The VTsIOM poll showed that 14 percent of Russians want to cancel the pension reform and lower the retirement age to the previous level."
Shta ?! Fourteen percent? ..
This unfortunate penny got so much scandalized about that I had already lost all interest in this matter ...
"6% noted the need for changes in tax legislation and tax cuts."
I don't need to cut taxes. I want a "progressive tax scale". With a salary of thirty thousand and seven hundred thousand, the difference in survival is categorically not in favor of the first.
"In addition, 7 percent of Russians surveyed consider it necessary to toughen the punishment for bribery."
Who did you interview at all? The bribe takers themselves and their families?!.
We don't need such hockey! ..
And the general opinion of at least the people I know, categorical will not coincide with such polls.

[xorek]

Russia needs Stalin !!!! That's when things will go, but just chatter ... Putin, in my opinion, has already become liberal and began to run out of steam ...

[Warrior MorePhoto]

Quote: Vadim237

"I gave everything to my friends" - What friends did he give what?

There are two Rotenberg, two Kovalchuk, two Patrushev, Miller, Sechin, Violenchilist and so on ... his list is rich, and the people of Russia are becoming poorer and dying, wake up and look around!

[Russobel]

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So 2% is a big indicator.
If you asked for the death penalty or against, you would get an answer "for" 70 percent!

And if so about the abolition of amendments to the Constitution, they asked, what percentage of those who named it in the poll would have turned "for"?

% this is not discussed at all, nonsense.
I think 30-35 percent ...
The amendments were needed unambiguously, only it was necessary to vote on each separately, and not in a package.
Then 2% would be dissatisfied.

[sergo1914]

So that's right. Everyone who has lived to retire should be executed.

[Charik]

probably they want to execute someone for reform

[Martian]

I am for the death penalty, including embezzlers, for the abolition of the pension reform and the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation, for the prohibition of granting citizenship to all foreigners in a row, for the eviction of all non-indigenous criminals from Russia, for the prohibition of the spread of Islam ..... Well, for the revision of privatization. ..

[Shelest2000]

VTsIOM named such ridiculous figures that you can immediately see - ******, in the sense, he is lying, like Trotsky!

[Lister]

citizens of the Russian Federation want to return the death penalty and cancel the pension reform

Per! Both are for the abolition of the pension reform and the return of the death penalty to a certain category of criminals.