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The second sample of the strike UAV "Okhotnik" will be structurally different from the first

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The second sample of the strike UAV "Okhotnik" will be structurally different from the first

The deadline for completing the creation of the second prototype of the Okhotnik strike UAV is reported. Recall that the first aircraft of this type is already being tested, including in conjunction with the fifth generation Su-57 fighter.


As the RIA News with reference to sources, the second built copy of the heavy attack Russian drone will differ from the first version. Moreover, these differences are called serious. In particular, it was noted that the second car will differ from the experimental first version in the first place in that it is a pre-production car, created taking into account the tests of the first model of the "Hunter". The car will be structurally different from its predecessor.

It is indicated that the second sample of the S-70 "Okhotnik" being created in Novosibirsk (at the V.P. Chkalov aircraft plant) will take to the air by the end of 2021. And its assembly is planned to be completed in August, after which the test stages will begin, including checking the operation of the engines and jogging along the runway of the airfield.

Earlier it was reported that the strike UAV "Okhotnik" may eventually acquire a flat nozzle. However, at the moment, there is no information about the introduction of such technology into the second prototype of the 20-ton Russian drone. We will remind that earlier it was also said about the intentions to turn the UAV "Okhotnik" into an unmanned interceptor, armed with missiles of the "air-to-air" class.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 17 March 2021 06: 22
    -23%
    the second built copy of the heavy attack Russian drone will differ from the first version. Moreover, these differences are called serious.
    I don’t understand the logic, this is still a considerable cycle of tests! Isn't it time to put on any series?
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 17 March 2021 06: 28
      -27%
      And the advertising brochure about the fourth generation, which we are preparing for the release in a month, will be much, much different from the second, which has many differences from the first, the development of which we will soon finish! wassat
    2. Titsen
      Titsen 17 March 2021 06: 53
      -23%
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I don't understand the logic


      The key word in the sentence and the whole article - WILL ...

      We will have EVERYTHING!

      And cool weapons, and long life, and you high pensions!

      ALL WILL BE !

      You just need to be patient ...
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 17 March 2021 06: 56
        +19
        Quote: Titsen
        We will have EVERYTHING!

        This is much better than: "You had it all!". laughing
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 17 March 2021 07: 10
          +8
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          This is much better than: "You had it all!".


          And I would like, about this:

          - The second sample of the strike UAV "Okhotnik" will be structurally different from the first

          when the UAV enters the series, an exclamation came out - "Wow !!!"
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 17 March 2021 09: 41
        -8
        Quote: Titsen
        ALL WILL BE !

        You just need to be patient

        It's a pity - to live in this wonderful time / I won't have to - neither for me, nor for you. (From the poem "Railway" by Ya. A. Nekrasov) request
      3. Intruder
        Intruder 17 March 2021 22: 10
        +1
        The key word in the sentence and the whole article - WILL ...
        of course, and so on for another 75 years, because the first beta version was still in the last century, other developers had a gloomy and sometimes all the same genius wink :
        but it is not necessary to get from the archive and "dust off", from the trophy documents ... fellow
        PS Now swarm - minusers will fly off ... bully
    3. Simargl
      Simargl 17 March 2021 07: 21
      +14
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I don’t understand the logic, this is still a considerable test cycle!
      And?
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Isn't it time to put on any series?
      Raw? And then redo it?
      Sworn partners curtailed the program - they failed. But the glider was gorgeous ... apparently, the pilots' union lobbied ...
    4. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 17 March 2021 07: 46
      -13%
      And this is actually a "series". After being put into service for 10 years, two dozen "Hunters" in various modifications will be produced. And that's all. A piece and very expensive product.
    5. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 17 March 2021 08: 27
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      the second built copy of the heavy attack Russian drone will differ from the first version. Moreover, these differences are called serious.
      I don’t understand the logic, this is still a considerable cycle of tests! Isn't it time to put on any series?


      The logic here is simple - to make a high-quality UAV. And this requires lengthy tests and improvements. And not just what to start up the series. As the Americans did, launching the essentially unfinished F-35 into series, the result of this rush was, in fact, the failure of the 5th generation fighter program. You will make people laugh in a hurry. It is better to immediately bring the product to mind, modify, test it properly, and only then mass production.
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 17 March 2021 09: 58
        +3
        In the series, many sores of cars come to light, this cannot be avoided. Until there is at least five years of serial operation experience, the car will essentially be damp.
        On two or three prototypes, all sores cannot be identified.
    6. alexmach
      alexmach 17 March 2021 09: 45
      +5
      I don’t understand the logic, this is still a considerable cycle of tests! Isn't it time to put on any series?

      Well, what other streak before the end of the test?
      The logic is simple. First, drawings are drawn, then mock-ups are made, then test samples are built and tested, and only then the series is launched. On the contrary, nothing.
    7. LifeIsGood
      LifeIsGood 17 March 2021 10: 43
      +5
      What is there not to understand? First, they built 1 sample, tested it from all sides, made lists of comments and wishes. Now they are building a second sample, taking into account all the jambs and wishes of the customer, and they will already be testing it. And such a "cycle" will last until the "victorious end" until they receive a normal product.
      To be honest, it's still far from the series.
      1. Object.F7
        Object.F7 17 March 2021 19: 03
        0
        Not far away anymore. The third and fourth are built exactly serial. With the Hunter, the Sukhikhs clearly have an accelerated program, in contrast to the 57th
    8. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 March 2021 11: 02
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I don’t understand the logic, this is still a considerable test cycle!

      In your opinion, do you need to go straight from the drawing board to the series? That's right, to hell with all sorts of tests, if you can drive semi-finished products. It is necessary to listen to couch clever people who do not understand not only logic, but also the principles of creating new technology. You only know one thing. - faster, as long as you can wait, it will not be enough ...
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 17 March 2021 11: 13
        -3
        Quote: Piramidon
        In your opinion, you need to go straight from the drawing board to the series? That's right, fucking bother with all sorts of tests, if you can drive semi-finished products
        Open your eyes:
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Moreover, these differences are called serious.
        Serious differences mean either a frank marriage in the design or a separate modification of the product, and here it is necessary to make a small series for military tests of the first branch.

        Quote: Piramidon
        It is necessary to listen to couch clever people who do not understand not only logic, but also the principles of creating new technology. You only know one thing. - faster, as long as you can wait, it will not be enough ...

        With serious manned samples, there is no need to rush, but here the consumable is actually, with an obvious delay with the Su-57.
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 March 2021 06: 23
    +1
    In particular, it was noted that the second machine will differ from the experimental first version in the first place in that it is a pre-production machine, created taking into account the tests of the first model of the "Hunter". The car will be structurally different from its predecessor.

    Well, it is clear that oil is oil, but what is the point?
    1. figwam
      figwam 17 March 2021 06: 33
      +5
      Quote: Ros 56
      Well, it is clear that oil is oil, but what is the point?

      Well, it seems that work is underway and serious changes are being made.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 17 March 2021 09: 00
        +4
        Quote: figvam
        Well, it seems that work is underway and serious changes are being made.

        Everything rests against the engine. There will be an engine for the Su-57, and the Hunter will also have it. I'm talking about a flat nozzle. The process is not going to say that quickly, but it is going on. We have always been tense with engines since the birth of aviation.
        1. figwam
          figwam 17 March 2021 09: 16
          +4
          Quote: NDR-791
          I'm talking about a flat nozzle.

          While on trials, Izd. 30 on the Su-57 has a conventional nozzle and whether it will be flat is not clear, but for the "Okhotnik" it is necessary to have a flat one.
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 17 March 2021 09: 25
            +6
            Quote: figvam
            but for the "Hunter" flat is necessary.

            It was originally conceived flat. He was dragged to exhibitions in this form.

            And what and where we really experience it, they will tell us when it really flies. With all our mess, if necessary, secrecy turns out to be very good.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 17 March 2021 11: 09
              +1
              Quote: NDR-791
              Quote: figvam
              but for the "Hunter" flat is necessary.

              It was originally conceived flat. He was dragged to exhibitions in this form.

              In your photo, I examined a round nozzle. Not to be confused with air intake.
              1. NDR-791
                NDR-791 17 March 2021 11: 23
                +1
                Here is a little on the other side, here you can see better. From the same exhibition.
                Judging by the published footage, the promising Russian heavy shock-reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle S-70 "Okhotnik" will receive a flat nozzle in the serial version. “The same product that is presented in the model, at least the conceptual appearance reflected in it, is, of course, the development of the theme of the current demonstrator model, only in a form suitable for mass production and for operation according to the tasks of the Ministry of Defense "
                (Popular mechanics 23.10.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX)
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 17 March 2021 21: 58
                  +1
                  I'm afraid to ask, but the red plastic bucket is also included in the exhibition model kit! ??? laughing Or, is this information limited by the manufacturer of this UAV !? winked
                  1. Viktor Afanasev
                    Viktor Afanasev 18 March 2021 03: 53
                    +1
                    There is fresh paste in the bucket to glue a new plywood model of the next "breakthrough" ...
                    1. Intruder
                      Intruder 18 March 2021 04: 53
                      +1
                      There is fresh paste in the bucket to glue a new plywood model of the next "breakthrough" ...
                      well that's it winked , too bold decision, I understand adhesive joints and composite assemblies, they were also used in the Tu-160 in the Union ..., plywood is also different, if it is impregnated with different resins at an elevated temperature and a protective polymer is coated, it can give a head start to different fiberglass and other composite materials ...
        2. Object.F7
          Object.F7 17 March 2021 19: 19
          +1
          The entire hundred-year history of aviation is built on the "strains with engines". As for the Hunter, he will not have product 30. As far as can be understood from the previous information, there will be another version of the Al-41, but not the cut, on which the Su-57s are now flying, but with the thrust that the Mig 1.44 wanted to give, they will only cut the afterburner, so as not to glow, well, they will cut off the deflected thrust vector, because a single-engine vehicle does not need it, plus a flat nozzle will be added, and this will probably cause some loss of thrust
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 17 March 2021 21: 56
            +1
            they will only cut off the afterburner so that it does not glow, well, and cut off the deflected thrust vector,
            so cutting off whole segments from the engine, you can reach the compressor path, and then it turned out: the propeller-driven "Hunter" in 10 years !? laughing wink
  3. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 17 March 2021 06: 23
    -9
    A flat nozzle is still necessary, it could not only reduce the RCS, but also add modern aesthetics to the appearance of the drone.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 17 March 2021 06: 34
      +18
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      add a modern aesthetic to the drone's appearance.

      Are you checkered or go?
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 17 March 2021 06: 38
      +6
      So you are checkered (add modern aesthetics to the appearance of the drone.) Or still go? fellow
    3. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 17 March 2021 07: 04
      +4
      I join my colleagues:
      Quote: Victor_B
      Are you checkered or go?

      Quote: Ros 56
      So you checkers


      Checkers or ... laughing laughing ?
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 March 2021 11: 14
      +2
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      add a modern aesthetic to the drone's appearance.

      There is also a chrome grille on the air intake for aesthetics. laughing
      1. El Chuvachino
        El Chuvachino 17 March 2021 14: 44
        0
        And tint the optics
    5. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 18 March 2021 17: 48
      0
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      A flat nozzle is still necessary, it could not only reduce the RCS, but also add modern aesthetics to the appearance of the drone.


      Flat nozzle not for EPR,
      Less heat footprint
      The jet stream from the flat nozzle mixes better with the cold air ...
  4. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 17 March 2021 06: 35
    +5
    Good luck, Hunter! good
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 17 March 2021 20: 05
      +1
      Quote: Sands Career General
      Good luck, Hunter! good
      Successful hunting - rich prey yes
  5. A.K.
    A.K. 17 March 2021 06: 51
    -3
    They write that the oil is oily. And what kind of unearthly check of engines are we talking about if he is there alone? Blank article.
  6. Graz
    Graz 17 March 2021 07: 12
    -12%
    bast and bast, start from the beginning, I feel the story with the fittings will repeat itself until the car becomes obsolete
  7. Graz
    Graz 17 March 2021 07: 21
    -14%
    yes, you will release a mini-series of 10 cars, let it be in the army and make and design a new version, what kind of stupidity is always with us, eggheads are improving everything, in the army a rolling ball
    1. Viktor Afanasev
      Viktor Afanasev 18 March 2021 03: 49
      0
      Sometimes it seems that all these KNOW-HOW are not for the Army and the Navy at all, but for the Ministry of Propaganda they are doing. And there - you can photoshop the quantity ... lol
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 March 2021 07: 23
    +8
    LORD! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... One of the three is ground-based, for static tests, the other two will fly to the Center for Combat Reconciliation! !!
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 17 March 2021 09: 48
      -2
      Quote: Thrifty
      Center for Combat Reconciliation!

      Beautiful name ! In which book is the Ministry of War called the Ministry of Peace?
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 17 March 2021 11: 56
        0
        Nikolaevich 1-mistake, of course, to the Center of Combat APPLICATION! !! hi
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 17 March 2021 22: 00
      0
      the other two will fly to the Combat Center reconciliation
      and with whom will they reconcile in a militant way !? With all due respect, this is just a joke .. honestly !!! laughing drinks
  9. yfast
    yfast 17 March 2021 18: 58
    0
    Wasn't it possible to watch an American one on YouTube right away? Let's do it backwards, but in 2025, then postpone it a little, then retire, if the guarantor does not increase the pension again. Then we can say that the drones are outdated.
  10. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 22: 35
    0
    Eh, creativity ... the old "Soviet" forgotten, already modeling:
  11. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 17 March 2021 23: 39
    +2
    what for us these toys. we do not need thermal imagers and many other technical means, this is all from the evil one. Ak and BSL are the most important thing for annihilating an adversary ... the main thing is that gentlemen generals have fancy cars and more expensive watches ...
  12. Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 18 March 2021 03: 44
    +1
    Hmm, our exhibition specimens are UNIQUE in a UNIQUE SINGLE quantity ... It's sad ...
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 18 March 2021 04: 57
      +1
      we get UNIQUE in a UNIQUE SINGLE amount ... It's sad ...
      and you want mass production for exhibition models (like 4 different models and so, every 10 years, from the budget to allocate for exhibitions ...), it is better in a single copy then !? request
  13. Tagan
    Tagan 18 March 2021 08: 05
    -2
    Quote: Titsen

    The key word in the sentence and the whole article - WILL ...
    We will have EVERYTHING!
    And cool weapons, and long life, and you high pensions!
    ALL WILL BE !
    You just need to be patient ...

    A predictable comment from the camp of "oppositionists". Moreover, it sticks to any topic, even not closely related.