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"In the form of expensive museum exhibits": Experts comment on plans for the appearance of F-2035 fighters in the Ukrainian Air Force by 35

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Recently, the Commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergei Drozdov made a statement that very few people left indifferent. As reported by Voennoe Obozreniye, Drozdov spoke about the consideration of the country's air force rearmament program, which provides for the abandonment of Soviet and Russian aircraft and the transition to NATO fighters and bombers. According to the commander, Ukraine expects to receive the fifth generation F-2035 fighters by 35.


Military experts in Russia and Ukraine comment on Mr. Drozdov's statement.

In particular, the obvious fact is pointed out: by 2035, American F-35 fighters will be no less outdated than today, for example, the same Su-27, which are in service with the Ukrainian Air Force. It is noted that at some point, Lockheed Martin may simply abandon not only the production of F-35 aircraft as such, but also spare parts for them, not to mention the maintenance of previously released combat vehicles. In such a situation, the costs of operating the equipment usually increase significantly. If today the price of an hour of flight for the F-35 is 36 thousand dollars, and the Pentagon demands from Lockheed Martin to bring it to at least 25 thousand, then the cost of maintaining one such aircraft per year, even after 10 years for Ukraine, may be comparable to the total the annual budget of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, subject to its active operation.

However, there is also such an assumption:

And why do many people think that they will fly the F-35 in Ukraine? This is pure PR for officials and military leaders, whose rating is extremely low. The United States by 2035, if Ukraine then remains at least in some form, may well supply it with one or two F-35s. The United States itself will already have 6th generation fighters, and for Ukraine it will come down as a very expensive museum exhibit.

It is added that now we can expect the following: Ukraine will really begin to "feed with promises" about possible deliveries of fighters from the United States to demonstrate "partnership and alliance." Fighters, primarily decommissioned by the US Air Force. What will happen in the end, the current military leaders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not care much, because by that time there will be completely different people in the leadership.

It is noted that by the time Russia, with which Ukraine, as it constantly claims, “is at war,” in addition to the Su-57 squadrons (in the RF Aerospace Forces), funds will appear. aviation newer generation. And in such a situation, Ukraine's expectation of one or two F-35s is at least strange - primarily from a military point of view.
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  1. Clear
    Clear 16 March 2021 17: 56
    +5
    According to the commander, Ukraine expects to receive the fifth generation F-2035 fighters by 35.
    He forgot to add "... get OT of fifth generation fighters ..."
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 16 March 2021 18: 03
      +7
      Well, they live in dreams.
      Dreams of a stupid donkey walking after a sweet carrot ... INTO THE MISS.
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 16 March 2021 23: 01
        +2
        why ... Americans need to put the old 35s somewhere ... that's why they'll be shoved
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 16 March 2021 23: 27
          0
          Quote: Barberry25
          why ... Americans need to put the old 35s somewhere ... that's why they'll be shoved

          Definitely. In addition, most NATO countries will now get rid of Typhoons, F-5s, Tornadoes, etc. within 7-35 years after the purchase of the F-16. they can also be used to equip flight units ... combat aircraft of the 4th generation used and F-35 of the first batches also used ...
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 March 2021 00: 24
        +3
        Zakharova correctly said about them.
        "They continue to live in their fantasy world: they hold Yalta conferences outside of Yalta, they equip Crimea without Crimea, they fight with Russia without Russia, they stimulate Russian-language foreign broadcasting, reducing broadcasting in Russian in their country."
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 16 March 2021 18: 03
      +3
      They will be able to count only on BU. And only if Ukraine still exists.
      1. knn54
        knn54 16 March 2021 19: 46
        +3
        "Either the emir dies, or the donkey dies."
    3. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 16 March 2021 18: 11
      +1
      And why waste money on sawing, if you can suck for them Okraine. Nothing personal, just business. hi
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 March 2021 18: 00
    +3
    I would sell them a batch of 200 cars, for cash, without a discount, so that they would fly on them - in the Stone Age! These planes will launch them around the world quickly, where the service will be more expensive than the vukriya will be able to scrape together an order of magnitude in the bottom of the barrel!
    1. venik
      venik 16 March 2021 22: 37
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      I would sell them a batch of 200 cars, for cash, without a discount, so that they would fly on them - in the Stone Age!

      good "If you want to ruin a small country, give her a cruiser... "(Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill). drinks
  3. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 16 March 2021 18: 02
    +2
    By this time, the first versions of the F35 will be written off, so they will be sold, or exchanged for Ukrainian land.
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 17 March 2021 00: 25
      0
      As well as javellins, they will not be allowed to use.
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 March 2021 18: 02
    +2
    So, there are still 1 days before April 15, isn't it too early to discuss such topics, or will there be a topic of fun in April?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 16 March 2021 18: 07
      +6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      So, there are still 1 days before April 15, isn't it too early to discuss such topics, or will there be a topic of fun in April?

      M - мart - м5th generation multipurpose fighter for the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      A - аdelusion - аViano carrier for the Ukrainian Navy
      Well, and then for months, Ukrainian officials are tongue-tied)))
      1. Clear
        Clear 16 March 2021 18: 14
        +6
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: tralflot1832
        So, there are still 1 days before April 15, isn't it too early to discuss such topics, or will there be a topic of fun in April?

        M - мart - м5th generation multipurpose fighter for the Armed Forces of Ukraine
        A - аdelusion - аViano carrier for the Ukrainian Navy
        Well, and then for months, Ukrainian officials are tongue-tied)))

        To this end, NATO members invented Ukraine with the status of a NATO partner with expanded capabilities. lol
        1. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx 16 March 2021 21: 22
          +1
          NATO partner with enhanced capabilities

          Rather, with a widened passage. Because of the constant pronoun. The same "place". lol
      2. Cowbra
        Cowbra 16 March 2021 18: 18
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        A - April - an aircraft carrier for the Ukrainian Navy

        The aircraft carrier, traditionally for the supply of aid from the United States to Ukraine, will be inflatable
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 March 2021 18: 14
    +2
    Yankees are generally stupid, they can get such a loot from the sale of F35 that they will pay interest only for the next 400 years for the planes! lol And, still oblige to buy vukriya and fuel only in the USA, immediately three years in advance, and spare parts for each of 200 cars, at least three complete sets, buy also lol Then, the vukriya with longing will remember the yanyka, which is a vegetable, or a vegetable that escaped to the Maidan, as under him the vukriya still LIVED, and did not drag out existence, as it is now. ... crying crying wassat
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 16 March 2021 18: 23
      +1
      So they can pay off, remembering the proto-ukrov, dig the Stalin's name, they only know how to dig. wassat
  6. Klingon
    Klingon 16 March 2021 18: 16
    -1
    Quote: Pereira
    They will be able to count only on BU. And only if Ukraine still exists.

    well they can sell them Phantoms or F-5 Tiger 2 if they sweep their bottom wassat
  7. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 16 March 2021 18: 36
    +1
    Something dear Nikolai Nikolaevich Drozdov remembered. It would be his voice, and about this bird that flew to Ukraine to tell) At least it was fun to listen to)
  8. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 16 March 2021 18: 44
    +2
    This broke through: every second piece of news about Ukraine
    1. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 16 March 2021 19: 47
      -1
      This broke through: every second piece of news about Ukraine

      Especially one like this.
      Yes, we already understood that the whole world is with you and how terrible you are.
      We are afraid, we take measures, it will not seem a little
      1. Ruslan Sulima
        Ruslan Sulima 16 March 2021 21: 50
        +1
        Especially one like this.
        Yes, we already understood that the whole world is with you and how terrible you are.
        We are afraid, we take measures, it will not seem a little

        By the way. I don’t understand why the minusers got excited at the word we’re afraid?
        In my opinion, only those who survived fear will be able to adequately work in a serious situation.
        Donetsk is afraid that there is no desire to board.
      2. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 17 March 2021 12: 11
        0
        Yes, we already understood that the whole world is with you and how terrible you are.

        With nmi, who is this with? I can guess what you are thinking, but if anything, I am a citizen of the Russian Federation working for the military-industrial complex. But I have more problems in my own country than somewhere else ...
        1. Ruslan Sulima
          Ruslan Sulima 17 March 2021 12: 13
          0
          With nmi, who is this with? I guess what you are thinking, but if anything, I am a citizen of the Russian Federation working for the military-industrial complex

          Later I noticed that thoughts run faster with my finger on the keyboard) I wanted to write with them)
          1. Bshkaus
            Bshkaus 17 March 2021 14: 32
            0
            Later I noticed that thoughts run faster with my finger on the keyboard)

            I myself am like this - the technique of printing blindly with ten fingers, this is evil))))
  9. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 16 March 2021 18: 48
    +3
    Production aircraft of the 2035th generation will appear in 6.
    But the F-35 will still be the main one by that time.
    by plane of the 5th generation. In 10 years, the F-35 aircraft will be
    more than 50% of the fleet of western manned combat aircraft in the world.
    1. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 16 March 2021 21: 51
      +1
      Did this diagram appear before or after the Pentagon's decision to postpone testing of the F-35? Something tells me that this aircraft "will by that time remain the main
      aircraft of the 5th generation "since only by that time it will finally be" finished ".
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 March 2021 22: 37
        +1
        Its "finishing" will be constant, like
        computer upgrades. This is the flying computer (and around the plane). laughing
    2. dauria
      dauria 16 March 2021 22: 12
      0
      Production aircraft of the 2035th generation will appear in 6.


      With Chinese characters on board. And the Hollywood sign is bilingual. State Chinese and Spanish for the remaining "American" people. By the way, the Chinese have exhausted the Jews. what So be careful with your forecasts. wink
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 March 2021 22: 35
        0
        Have you heard about the NGAD fighter? Scunk Systems.
        Next Generation Air Domination.
        One prototype is already flying.
        I don’t know if mass production will start ...
        The Americans had a breakthrough in aviation R&D. High-speed design, including simulation without wind tunnels.
        But there is no breakthrough in high-speed production.
        We'll see ...
        1. dauria
          dauria 16 March 2021 23: 34
          +1
          The Americans had a breakthrough in aviation R&D.


          Lord. Yes, wars cannot be won by super aircraft, super ships, super tanks, or even super bombs. And there are no awesome breaks for any serious period. Remember the atomic bomb. Even super commanders cannot win a war. The battle, yes, they can. And wars are won by the size of the country, the size of the industry, the territory, the number of people.
          ... Clausewitz formulated which background. He was not a stupid comrade. China has it all. But how the slightly starving mass of Americans will behave, in addition, greatly diluted by the awesome blacks, is a question of questions. They wouldn't have had to share their hegemony kindly by 2035. Trump is a perspicacious man, he saw where he was heading.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 16 March 2021 23: 55
            +1
            ". And wars are won by the size of the country, the size of the industry, the territory, the number of people." ////
            ----
            Not always. Industry can be so advanced
            which will more than compensate for all other factors.
            And this factor is becoming more and more important every century.
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 16 March 2021 23: 41
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          But there is no breakthrough in high-speed production. We'll see...

          Well, in the countries that are the best allies - Britain and Japan, they can spend on drink a license for the production of F-35 of both modifications (for deck and base aircraft) ...
  10. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 March 2021 18: 49
    +1
    Modern Ukraine is one hefty cargo cult sect, the size of a country. All dress up in ritual pixel clothing and invoke grace in the form of military nishtyaks.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 16 March 2021 23: 50
      0
      Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
      Modern Ukraine is one hefty cargo cult sect, the size of a country. All dress up in ritual pixel clothing and invoke grace in the form of military nishtyaks.

      Well, if nishtyaks are expensive and high-tech, why not, then Ukraine still has no choice ... or you suggest that they wait until Ukraine learns to make combat aircraft with closed-cycle production ...
  11. xorek
    xorek 16 March 2021 19: 35
    +2
    Ukraine will not live to see this, it is already a corpse, as a state!
    What kind of experts are these ..?
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 17 March 2021 00: 04
      0
      Quote: xorek
      Ukraine will not live to see this, it is already a corpse, as a state!

      Well, if she were a corpse today, then yesterday (in 2014) the LDNR would have taken Mariupol, and would not have shrunk before the Smerch MLRS fired into the depths of their territory ...
      Already from the "senior comrades" of the LDNR, who wanted to take Kuev, no one is alive, and for some reason Ukraine is a corpse ...
      Ukraine will go for a long time until the 90s of the Russian model, when coupons for food and tobacco were issued in Moscow ...
      At the moment, the Russian Federation can only push the border between the Russian Federation and Ukraine further to the West ... but this is unprofitable for the West, so the West will not allow a war in Donbass ...
      The current government in Ukraine artificially reduces the value of Ukraine's assets and gets rid of unnecessary "ballast" (population and obligations within the CIS) ....
      1. xorek
        xorek 17 March 2021 20: 36
        -1
        Quote: Lara Croft
        At the moment, the Russian Federation can only push the border between the Russian Federation and Ukraine further to the West ... but this is unprofitable for the West, so the West will not allow a war in Donbass ...
        The current government in Ukraine artificially reduces the value of Ukraine's assets and gets rid of unnecessary "ballast" (population and obligations within the CIS) ....

        Interesting opinion ..))) You directly download here and such enthusiasm wassat ..Oh well !
        Do you hope to spin both to the west and to the east like a whirligig ..? We have already passed this. Better run to Canada, before it's too late. negative
  12. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 16 March 2021 20: 43
    0
    the appearance by 2035 of F-35 fighters in the Ukrainian Air Force


    Even if this event, incredible in stupidity, will take place, only according to the principle "On you, God, what is not suitable for us")))
  13. iouris
    iouris 16 March 2021 21: 56
    0
    The publication of any irresponsible chatter of the Natsik is viewed as an urgent task.
    For many years, information saboteurs have been working on federal channels in the sweat of their brows for a lot of money, shouting and hammering their values ​​and attitudes into the backbones of "citizens" every day ("occupation", "aggressive war", "return of Crimea", etc.)
    It is inspiring.
  14. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 17 March 2021 04: 14
    0
    In short, the principles of Haji Nasreddin are alive and well: "Either the donkey dies or the padishah." wassat
    Well done Drozdov, but he amused the wet dreams of the especially rabid ones, who are still waiting for the great overthrow over Russia!
  15. zenion
    zenion 17 March 2021 14: 20
    0
    Everyone was excited about how it would be, what would be, and so on. I'm quite calm. Let them get it!
  16. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 18 March 2021 09: 07
    0
    Well, if by 2035 such under-education as Ukraine persists, the probability of which is steadily tending to zero, then they will get a handful of rusty metal unfit for flight, and for money. stolen from their people. these ukrourody-rulers nedostranny think only today, so that tomorrow they will receive from the owner only what he already does not need nafig and makes a big hole in the budget. And therefore: oh my God, that we are not suitable. laughing
  17. wow
    wow 18 March 2021 16: 09
    0
    Ek Svidomo skidded in time right up to 2035! Will they survive ...?