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Terms of possible complete blocking of Twitter in Russia have been announced

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The network is discussing a warning from Roskomnadzor sent to the social network Twitter.


Information Service TASS cites the statement of the deputy head of Roskomnadzor Vadim Subbotin. According to the official, the Russian regulator expects Twitter to remove information prohibited by Russian law. This kind of information means, for example, messages about the purchase of illegal drugs, the involvement of minors in the "adult industry", the promotion of suicide, etc.

Recall that at the moment Twitter in Russia is under a kind of warning from the RKN. The point is that the regulator slowed down its work. Users drew attention to the "slowdown" of the publication site in microblogs, including long-loading graphic and video files.

As Mr. Subbotin notes, if Twitter does not delete the information prohibited by Russian law, then in a month it can expect a complete blocking on the territory of the Russian Federation.

Recall that earlier RKN blocked the Telegram messenger. However, the blocking came out, to put it mildly, strange. In Telegram, using well-known technologies, even those officials who themselves insisted on the need to block it, continued to communicate.

In Runet news about the possible blocking of Twitter caused a mixed reaction. Some decided to support the RKN, others believe that in the modern world of developed communications, such prohibitive measures can lead to negative consequences, primarily for users who use the Network not at all to obtain information of a criminal nature.
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  1. Woodman
    Woodman 16 March 2021 16: 06
    +31
    If they want to work in the zone of Russian jurisdiction, let them observe Russian laws. This also applies to officials.
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 16 March 2021 16: 18
      +6
      It is high time to cover up this bourgeois program! yes I have never been there and never will! fellow
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 16 March 2021 16: 23
      +17
      Apparently - the authors of all sorts of bans on the Internet have never heard of such things as VPN and TOR .. Not - okay, you are an oak tree in a topic about which you take the audacity to compose pointers, but my - at least consult with experts before you can sprinkle the next nonsense? Or is it below the parliamentary and bureaucratic dignity? So soon, let's say, they will get to the laws of physics .. And this is how it is - absolutely in all areas! And then they are surprised - why is it all so bad in the country?
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 16 March 2021 16: 33
        -4
        Quote: paul3390
        Apparently - the authors of all sorts of bans on the Internet have never heard of such things as VPN and TOR .. Not - okay, you are an oak tree in a topic about which you take the audacity to compose pointers, but my - at least consult with experts before you can sprinkle the next nonsense? Or is it below the parliamentary and bureaucratic dignity? So soon, let's say, they will get to the laws of physics .. And this is how it is - absolutely in all areas! And then they are surprised - why is it all so bad in the country?

        Executors get ahead of orders, often mindlessly. Focusing on "where the wind is blowing."
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 16 March 2021 16: 40
          0
          Try not to do it. In an instant you will find yourself on the street. But then they can and encourage. Not for the mind, but for the diligence.
          1. KAV
            KAV 16 March 2021 19: 02
            +16
            Here, after all, what's the matter ... Fewer Internet users know about VPN and TOR. This is about Twitter's loss of market share. This is, firstly, advertising revenue. Secondly, it is the cessation of content creation by all sorts of "bloggers". There is also a loss of income for the same content makers on the territory of Russia (so they blast ...). Including, experts, of course, will continue to go to Twitter, but these are not all users.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 17 March 2021 09: 07
              +3
              Clever people who have heard about VPN and TOR and use them regularly do not understand how few of them are.
              I tried to access a closed, but favorite torrent site via VPN. bully
              I realized how inconvenient it was and solved the issue in a different way.
              The overwhelming majority (the same children) will not bother with this. hi
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 16: 39
        +13
        Quote: paul3390
        Apparently - the authors of all sorts of bans on the Internet have never heard of such things as VPN and TOR ..

        For that, they know perfectly well how to bite off their piece from budget money. Who from the members of the forum uses the search for mail ru, where is the rutube? The site of the state service, its enemies did something. That's why the root tracker works great, God bless its founders and users. Whoever has a head will always go wherever he wants.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 16 March 2021 21: 22
          +19
          Government services. the number of users increased by 21 million and now stands at 86 million. The number of visits to the Portal has increased by more than 30% and reached 582 million. On average, 1,6 million users visited the site daily. Don't write nonsense. Yandex Russian is used by the darkness of just people.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 21: 38
            -14%
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Yandex Russian is used by the darkness of just people.

            Google looks better, but DuckDuckGo does not follow the user and looks no worse than Yandex, perhaps. Yandex has become too commercial and the ranking there is very suspicious.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Government services. the number of users increased by 21 million and now stands at 86 million. The number of visits to the Portal has increased by more than 30% and reached 582 million. On average, 1,6 million users visited the site daily.

            Write nonsense. State services are a monopolist, that is why they use them, and so it is not made for people.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 16 March 2021 23: 27
              +8
              Google searches the same way. Yandex is not just a search. This ecosystem has been around for a long time. As for public services, I personally use them all the time when there is a need. During the quarantine, so on a permanent basis and I do not understand your complaints. Everything is clear and ridiculously simple. Monopolist? These are STATE SERVICES! State. Despite the fact that no one else has such a system. You were given a tool to simplify your life. Created, launched and worked. Tens of millions of people use it. This all speaks for itself.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 00: 37
                -9
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Google searches the same way.

                Google is looking for much better, at least according to my requests, Yandex works well only on Runet.
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Yandex is not just a search. This ecosystem has been around for a long time.
                Should I be happy about Yandex taxi or Yandex food? Let them think more about search and less about commerce. But no, now there will also be a Yandex bank.

                Quote: carstorm 11
                As for public services, I personally use them all the time when there is a need.

                Here's how! And I use, just imagine, you won't sign up for services, you won't get into social protection or the traffic police.
                Quote: carstorm 11
                During the quarantine, so on a permanent basis and I do not understand your complaints.

                And I remember how many times he hung and I scored the children in a new way.
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Everything is clear and ridiculously simple.

                Yeah, only the wife of half of the neighboring old people still draws up everything there, because they do not understand. And I remember how I made out a car for a child, but there was no such application, etc. I also remember that the texts, along with HTML codes, were shown there.
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Monopolist? These are STATE SERVICES! State.

                You wrote
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Government services. the number of users increased by 21 million and now stands at 86 million. The number of visits to the Portal has increased by more than 30% and reached 582 million. On average, 1,6 million users visited the site daily.

                Where else should they go if they have to sign up everywhere through the site? Not a monopolist? You boasted about his attendance.
                Quote: carstorm 11
                You were given a tool to simplify your life. Created, launched and worked. Tens of millions of people use it. This all speaks for itself.

                You just need to create with your hands, and not through one place. I wouldn't get paid for such a job. Now tens of millions of people are suffering with these state services. I remember how my password went off there during quarantine and that I had to re-bind my phone and change the password.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 17 March 2021 03: 44
                  +6
                  For old people, yes. Not everything is clear. But forgive me, I can't even give a simple smartphone to my mother because it is difficult for her. I buy unpretentious clamshells and that's it. Older people just need to learn a little. Kaa and I will then have to keep up with the daughters. As for the password that has flown, I have not heard of this. Throughout my life, passwords have not flown from the word at all. More often than not, you switched to taste and this conversation is not about that at all. Use Google. I like Yandex more. Nobody minds. If you don't like government services, go to the MFC. Someone with his head, someone with his feet decides questions. To each his own
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 07: 43
                    -6
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    Nobody minds. If you don't like government services, go to the MFC.

                    It’s not about that. As for public services, it’s about what the hack did it and during the "pandemic" (the influx of people) he copes with his tasks unsatisfactorily.
              2. Kazbek
                Kazbek 17 March 2021 22: 41
                -1
                Yandex works out any Russian-language request an order of magnitude better! Google only for international inquiries or inquiries in English. In Runet, Google digs up any nonsense - the search is absolutely not systematized.
            2. purple
              purple 18 March 2021 14: 43
              -2
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Google looks better, but DuckDuckGo does not follow the user and looks no worse than Yandex, perhaps. Yandex has become too commercial and the ranking there is very suspicious.

              do not agree. Yandex searches much better than Google
        2. zwlad
          zwlad 17 March 2021 08: 38
          +1
          Well, for example, I use Yandex search. And a public service website. So there is no need to generalize.
          And if they close Twitter and, in addition, Telegrams, VK, OK and other social networks, I will only FOR.
        3. Kazbek
          Kazbek 17 March 2021 22: 35
          -1
          Rutrecker is not what it was for a long time. And restrictions on its use greatly affected its attendance. Now, sometimes, you have to wait a week for someone to stand up for distribution! And VPNs on mobile platforms cried a lot. And they constantly fly off. I found one good one on iOS, but it is paid and costs a lot. VPN Tor Browser is called. But it's not on the bucket. So, blocking Twitter will reduce the number of users by 70 percent, if not more. Hamsters will not bother with the constant search for ways to circumvent the ban, but will simply dump them on other platforms.
      3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 March 2021 16: 49
        +11
        Quote: paul3390
        Apparently - about such things as VPN and TOR, the authors of all sorts of bans on the Internet have never heard of.

        Just as most users have not heard about this, they will not bother with a VPN in their souls, and even more so with an onion.
        Twitter unavailable? And figs with him. As well as Facebook, for the most part. Instagram is another matter. Here the storm will be the size of the European Union.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 16 March 2021 16: 52
          +5
          Uh-huh ... And in Opera, turn on one VPN slider right on the screen, too, according to your all? wink Nothing - they will try to ban your favorite resources - the inquisitive Russian mind will immediately turn on. tongue
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 March 2021 16: 56
            +7
            Quote: paul3390
            Uh-huh ... And in Opera, turn on one VPN slider right on the screen, too, according to your all?

            So, in order to turn it on, you first need to see this button! Indeed, in normal mode, it is not displayed, only in private, and then you have to guess that you need to click the VPN in the frame. And the majority on the Yandex browser or Chrome sits, and there are no buttons at all.
            I do not argue who seeks, he will always find, but such a minority.
          2. Kart
            Kart 16 March 2021 17: 00
            +12
            Favorite resources?
            Is this about American Twitter?
            Well, for those who lick the United States, it is known that these resources are definitely their favorite. And of course they will find a way to fall to the source of Pravda.
            The rest, the normal ones, are not interested. There was twitter, there will be a schmitter - it doesn't matter.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 16 March 2021 17: 08
              -15%
              And you, my dear, as I understand it, do you go exclusively to the sites of the Kremlin and United Russia on the Internet? And - I forgot, even here you periodically illuminate us with your bright thoughts ..
          3. ccsr
            ccsr 16 March 2021 19: 12
            +9
            Quote: paul3390
            Nothing - they will try to ban your favorite resources - the inquisitive Russian mind will immediately turn on.

            What about our self-awareness? After all, in the end, everyone understands that this fuss was not born just like that, but as a response to an information war, and has nothing to do with the technologies themselves. Well, if most of our Twitter and Facebook users leave them, then the state will not have to bother.
            Remember India and Gandhi - a boycott of British goods led to the liberation of the country. Maybe we'd better, instead of constantly nodding at the stupidity of officials, take and stop using these platforms ourselves, and then no government statements will be required.
            I will not cite myself as an example, but in principle I don’t buy any goods from the Baltics and Ukraine, and I think that this hits our enemies much better than thousands of posts on the Internet. How about that our inquisitive mind took and took care of boycotting everything connected with these Internet giants, maybe then we will have something efficient in this area.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 16 March 2021 19: 18
              -6
              I also don't buy anything from hostile countries. And I'm not interested in all sorts of navalnist sites. But - Roskompozor seems to have just begun to get a taste. Remember how it started - with the blocking of child pornography. It seems to be a necessary thing - but what rolled next? Now they are starting to block absolutely everything that the authorities don't like !! Do you remember the completely idiotic recent wars with Telegram? When did these ghouls ban 15 million innocent addresses at once? Exclusively for stupidity and illiteracy. And besides that, their activities are full of such examples - ask at your leisure. If it goes on like this, I'm even afraid to imagine what they'll get to .. And personally, I categorically refuse them the right to decide for me where to climb on the Internet. Here shish them.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 16 March 2021 19: 39
                -2
                Quote: paul3390
                Do you remember the completely idiotic recent wars with Telegram?

                It was not an idiotic war, because without an official agreement with the owners of this resource, everything that our special services receive illegally from this network will not be accepted as evidence in any court, not only in the West, but also in our country. I do not exclude at all that this "war" was inflated by special services, so that as many Telegram users as possible believed in its invulnerability, and began to use it instead of the same Twitter.
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 16 March 2021 19: 47
                  -5
                  This was not an idiotic war

                  Yah? And - what did they achieve, besides the collapse of half of the Runet? They even managed to block the NTP servers .. And the cart, as it galloped to addresses, sending new pushes, continued to gallop. The opupeosis of their activities was the actual blocking of Roskompozor's own website .. And their system of blocking the Inspector simply stupidly lay under such an avalanche of filtration .. Ugh.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 17 March 2021 11: 15
                    -2
                    Quote: paul3390
                    And - what did they achieve, besides the collapse of half of the Runet?

                    This is how they demonstrated their capabilities.
                    Quote: paul3390
                    And the cart, as it galloped to the addresses, sending new push notifications, continued to gallop.

                    Yes, I don't care what she jumps - the special services are interested in their contingent, and I think they are coping with obtaining information illegally.

                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    The siloviki have been asking to crush the cart for many years.

                    This does not mean that the special services cannot receive information on the persons of interest to them through operational and technical measures. Well, I have no doubt that they have their own people in the "Telegram" itself.

                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    Who else writes there? Terrorists?

                    Yes, and this special contingent that is being tracked.
              2. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 16 March 2021 21: 29
                -1
                The siloviki have been asking to crush the cart for many years. All trade in drugs, weapons and other such things moved there. About such trifles as prostitution, hacking and fraud, I just keep quiet. And you cannot even imagine the scale of all this. Who else writes there? Terrorists? Mercenaries and recruiters?
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 16 March 2021 21: 53
                  +1
                  It's not about the cart as such. And in the tendency to prohibit everything that you don't like. And actively look for ways to do this. And since there are none, out of stupidity they only spoil the life of normal people. Well, really, it has not yet reached - with our structure of the Internet, something is effectively prohibited NOT-WHO-CAN-BUT .. There will always be ways to bypass it. And this is for the best, otherwise I can imagine what these ghouls will turn the Runet into, give them the means ..
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 16 March 2021 23: 24
                    -4
                    It is in the cart. All messengers are controlled by special services and this is no secret. For ordinary people, of whom the vast majority, it does not matter. But there is a cart that stands out from this row. For this reason, all this rabble rushed there. The requirements for it are quite obvious and understandable. To understand and forgive here will not work. Banning these were steps to force cooperation. It didn't work out. But it's better to do at least something than agree nothing at all.
                  2. Kazbek
                    Kazbek 17 March 2021 22: 53
                    0
                    Normal people do not sit on Twitter! This platform was created exclusively for # srach on any topic. There's nothing else there! A year since I removed this shame from my phone. I left FB three years ago for the same reason. Breeding grounds for propaganda, surveillance and the cultivation of hatred on any grounds. In social networks, in principle, there are no healthy people left - everyone goes there for their portion of dirt, hatred, vanity and perversions. So blocking this dump will only slightly improve society.
            2. Intruder
              Intruder 17 March 2021 17: 03
              0
              Remember India and Gandhi - a boycott of British goods led to the liberation of the country.
              right, they all threw and began to produce their own, where the world Indian technologies and brands, I have Indian cotton towels, by the way and honestly, but all sorts of there, refrigerators and vacuum cleaners with computers and telephones, maybe they stopped buying weapons from the West and RF fellow ! ??? You made my morning, really ... wink laughing
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 17 March 2021 19: 33
                +1
                Quote: Intruder
                right now, everyone dropped and began to produce their own, where are the world's Indian technologies and brands,

                You are probably not in the subject - they stopped buying in stores owned by the British, and ignored all the companies where they worked. This led to the collapse of the British business in India, and after that it became too expensive to maintain a lot of officials in this country.
                Quote: Intruder
                You made my morning, really ...

                You can't even imagine how many more wonderful events you can learn from me - apparently you did not have a Soviet education, when any educated person knew these details.
          4. Kazbek
            Kazbek 17 March 2021 22: 44
            0
            Who uses the Opera now? Well this is 2006 !!! laughing
            80% in Chrome, 19,5 in Safari. laughing
        2. Nikon OConor
          Nikon OConor 16 March 2021 18: 01
          +5
          I don’t know, my Instagram is purple. And for the sake of this, I definitely will not mess with the bow. My loved ones are the same ....
          So, bulk youth will be indignant, basically ... let them ... rage
      4. Infinity
        Infinity 16 March 2021 16: 49
        +4
        Quote: paul3390
        Apparently - the authors of all sorts of bans on the Internet have never heard of such things as VPN and TOR ..
        hi Yeah, thanks to RKN, more and more people are learning about these things. And figs would be with a VPN, but Tor is already actively used for real crime: drugs, weapons, child pornography and other abomination. "Thank you" RKN for indirect "educational activities" among the Russian population!
        By the way, there seemed to be a law on VPNs so that they could not access prohibited sites, but ... It does not work. Only VPN from Kaspersky agreed with the requirements, the rest did not even respond to the scribbles of the RKN and legislators, did not consider it necessary laughing

        And yes, many people correctly write that there are more "forbidden" things on VK, and moderation is tougher on Twitter, you won't publish porn there, immediately banned, unlike VK. But ... politics, guys. There is a lot of opposition there ...
        I myself have not used it much before on Twitter, I do not have an account, but there are accounts of large engineering companies and space agencies that I read. A very convenient thing, while you wait for a press release (if there is one), a note is immediately published there. Purely for the sake of this, I will go there, and not only me, while the absolute majority of users do not look at anything prohibited.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 16 March 2021 16: 57
          -1
          the law on VPNs so that you cannot access prohibited sites from them

          I definitely can't imagine how this is possible .. Of course, there are non-methods for determining the presence of a VPN, but there are also methods to bypass them. Of course - you can cut IPSec in general on figs, but then no one will have VPN at all .. And nowhere. Plus, there are other ways too ..

          Inet - it was originally, as you know, created in order not to stop working even after the Soviet nuclear strike .. How much before this Roskomnadzor .. Not - you can filter, but then - it was necessary to initially build it on the Chinese model. In our reality, all these types of prohibitions are akin to masturbation ..
          1. Nikon OConor
            Nikon OConor 16 March 2021 18: 11
            -4
            Don't tell me, here's an example: a search on suspicion .... ah! you have Thor !!! You take drugs !!! to the department pending clarification ...
            1. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 16 March 2021 18: 12
              -3
              of course, literate people just send, and do not allow digging into the phone, but these are not all, and it does not always work ..
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 00
          -6
          they are already actively used for real crime: drugs, weapons, child pornography and other abomination.
          perhaps the "white" Internet itself - this is jammed under a traffic jam, you urgently need to block everything together, and build your own Cheburnet, and issue mobile phones under a license for a year (and a smartphone only after five years ... when you own an ordinary push-button for a year) , Comrade Major in his office, with finger rolling and other biometrics! ???
        3. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 45
          0
          Quote: Infinity
          And figs would be with a VPN, but Tor is already actively used for real crime:

          Come on, for example, I download torrents through the torrent, my provider has forbidden to download torrents.))))) A very handy thing, in many cases.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 16 March 2021 18: 48
            -2
            my provider banned torrents to download.)))))
            here, the female of the twisted pair cable ..., torrents - the idea of ​​P2P freedom, right at the root .., does not allow downloading !!! wink am
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 18: 55
              -3
              Quote: Intruder
              here, the female of the twisted pair cable ..., torrents - the idea of ​​P2P freedom, right at the root .., does not allow downloading !!!

              But through what did he do it? Slaughtered all peer-to-peer connections? Which way to google? As the asterisk did, the same only went through the vpn call.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 16 March 2021 19: 17
                -2
                Which way to google?

                1. µTorrent 2.0 beta with µTP enabled:
                (in the release of version 2, the µTP protocol is enabled by default);
                But there is another problem:
                In beta versions, downloading does not work correctly, for example, on version 1.8.4, the client downloads at a speed of 800-1000 Kb / s.
                In the beta version, the speed may not exceed 400-500 Kb / s. At the same time, with µTP turned on, the recoil is wave-like, moves in jumps, but reaches 500-600 Kb / s. Games with the bt.transp_disposition parameter have not yet yielded results ...
                2. At the moment, it is more convenient to use VPN tunneling.
                And this is if it is strong, the provider does not bother with technology and you are at home, too ... winked
        4. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 48
          -3
          Quote: Infinity
          But ... politics, guys. There is a lot of opposition there ...

          And what is the opposition that bothers you? Under our constitution, we have freedom of speech, if my memory serves me right. Let everyone have the opportunity to speak. It is wrong when all the "horns" are only at the "bucket".
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 16 March 2021 18: 52
            -6
            Under our constitution, we have freedom of speech, if my memory serves me right. Let everyone have the opportunity to speak
            Well, yes, yes, although now most of it loves to change it in the Russian Federation, so I would not be surprised if this paragraph will soon be changed in the constitutional article on freedom of speech, and ..., or they will add it in small print, which is only subject to certain conditions , a subject of law on the territory of the state, has a conditional right with prior notification of the executive authorities and further ... laughing winked
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  31. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 17: 21
    +1
    among the worshipers of true non-possessors?
    and these, who have not lived in the world for a long time, but far away in stone cells of monasteries and on the islands, and most of the leaders have gold and beautiful cars with gold pieces on their chest, in the form of a cross ... which is helluva lot, they spoil them for the flock, plus lighting corporate events and all sorts of fratricidal weapons !? For the grandmother, by the way ... and gold is evil, and worshiping it closes one gate recourse and fervently opens others, in the next world ... am
  32. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 17: 17
    0
    but even here one should not forget and go beyond the law
    what have you made your slander against the whole church
    when, will we drag Alexei up a rack or a cross! ??? am Or maybe we will excommunicate forever, by order of the Holy Synod in the second reading !? laughing
  33. Flooding
    Flooding 17 March 2021 17: 21
    -2
    Quote: Intruder
    Or maybe we will excommunicate forever, by order of the Holy Synod in the second reading !?

    it would be funny if the laws of the Russian Federation did not provide for a different punishment
    and an adult man should follow his own words and be responsible for them
  34. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 18: 21
    0
    if by the laws of the Russian Federation
    laws have already spread to the sphere of faith and spiritual areas, so we have freedom of opinion and religion, is that allowed !? Or canceled ??? After all, atheists are not imprisoned in the dungeons of monasteries ... I hinted about this above ... wink
  35. Flooding
    Flooding 17 March 2021 19: 02
    0
    Quote: Intruder
    laws have already spread to the sphere of faith and spiritual areas, so we have freedom of opinion and religion, is that allowed !?

    otherwise you do not know. Believe scbe as much as you like. and no one encroaches on your opinion.
    if you do not express it, your opinion, in a form that is offensive to others.
    it's that simple.
    what don't you understand?
    or are you not aware that there are things that are unacceptable in a healthy society?
  36. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 17: 15
    +1
    According to our constitution, the church is separated from the state, but in fact it is not.
    Which, from ...: old or new !? In general, the church has long been registered with the tax service, as a church organization and pays taxes from the taxes of believers and "other donations" ... (small church organizations ... and large, the same exists in the state ...) !!!
  37. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 17: 12
    0
    no, you are not the first and not the last ally of the West in the fight against Orthodoxy
    voluntary or involuntary
    but how to love your brother in Christ !? Judge him, but you yourself talk about Orthodoxy, with your lips .., into the heresy of others with intent to secretly introduce !? sad
    Maybe for a start - to understand and forgive, as the holy fathers bequeathed, and not to throw him into the abyss of false fabrications ...!? laughing wink
  38. Flooding
    Flooding 17 March 2021 17: 25
    -2
    Quote: Intruder
    Judge him, but you yourself talk about Orthodoxy

    who told you that Orthodoxy does not condemn bad deeds?
    Quote: Intruder
    Maybe for a start - understand and forgive

    to understand that?
    forgive what?
    forgive mistakes and bad deeds. but for this they must be recognized as such.
  39. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 18: 30
    +1
    to understand that?
    his personal point of view on this topic and again the subjective opinion of the user given on the VO, so I think it's clear !? winked
    forgive what?
    perhaps for his delusions, you tell him this, in every comment, your own !? request
    forgive mistakes and bad deeds. but for this they must be recognized as such.
    then, have you already recognized them or what !? wink , or how to explain your own words addressed to this user ... with incriminating him of slander and cowardice, such as:
    Slander from the first to the last word about fascist inclinations.
    You are a slanderer and a coward.
  40. Flooding
    Flooding 17 March 2021 19: 09
    -1
    Quote: Intruder
    his personal point of view on this topic and again the subjective opinion of the user given on the VO, so I think it's clear !?

    Of course not.
    because you are wrong in principle.
    understand the fact that there is a different point of view.
    you can understand the arguments given.
    but it is impossible to understand a point of view expressed in a defiant, disrespectful and offensive form.
    Quote: Intruder
    then, you already recognized them or how

    overdo the verbiage
    you will not forgive the one who offended you if he does not ask you for an apology and does not admit his guilt.
    what a kindergarten
    if you continue like this, I will stop noticing you
    Or do you think that what you write is smart and significant?
  41. Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 17: 08
    +1
    So, the ROC had the same "their Vlasovs". Although this does not negate the fact that the clergy for the most part fought for the Soviet country, in the occupied territories
    It is not good for the spiritual fathers to grab the trunks and knives with clean hands .., even in the occupied territories, it is a mortal sin, because our Lord does not approve, of weakness of spirit of such a scale !!!wink
  • K150
    K150 17 March 2021 04: 07
    -3
    Thanks to RKN for indirect "educational activities" among the Russian population!

    Thanks to Durov for providing the drug trafficking service. All the hucksters moved there. And I know this firsthand. Continue to cry on the RKN while the freedom-loving Durov encourages intoxicating your children. By the way, in the USA he was immediately pressed behind the crypt and appeared at all their courts, but not at ours.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 09: 01
      +1
      Quote: K150
      Thanks to Durov for providing the drug trafficking service. All the hucksters moved there. And I know this firsthand.

      Thanks to the police and drug control who protect them. No need to blame a sore head on a healthy one. I know the same not by hearsay.
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 17 March 2021 18: 25
      0
      By the way, he was immediately pressed behind the crypt in the United States and appeared at all their courts, but not at ours.
      right behind the crypt !? or maybe for other things, with an excellent cover for that fake crypt !? Or what he tried to call a cryptocurrency, in fact, was not such for Durov, there are more scammers on this topic than before ... while crypto-hypes are in the trend and revolve around it !?
  • Intruder
    Intruder 16 March 2021 16: 56
    -5
    TOR
    with him, even the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation in 2015 tried to fight and monitor the nodes ... and entrance gateways, even tenders were successfully sawed for a couple of years, VPN - not much and saves, if the server chain is in the Russian Federation, here you need to carefully and carefully approach, i2p is a more vigorous thing, and if you do everything right .., then you can "dive" through it, to the VPN exit server in another country and preferably with "good friends" on a private territory, and then .., already further .. !!! wink
    1. nnm
      nnm 16 March 2021 17: 07
      +1
      One question - why? What specific resources are not available to you with the same VPN? Only specifically - such and such and such, and not in general terms.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 18
        -7
        Quote: nnm
        One question - why?

        Only if you need to hide well.)))) And on vpn, you still need to put on a clean sox, otherwise many resources are not allowed.
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 19
        -4
        What specific resources are not available to you with the same VPN? Only specifically - such and such and such, and not in general terms.
        Hmm .. what an interesting question, but for what purpose are you interested !? wink
      3. unaha
        unaha 16 March 2021 17: 22
        +1
        This implies a situation when vpn will be diligently jammed.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 58
          -4
          This implies a situation when vpn will be diligently jammed.
          hmm ... bad am , only my locks are not here, but there ... in another jurisdiction geographically fellow , not even every ICBM will fly there, with already deployed combat missiles, across the Ocean! laughing wink
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 20: 12
          -7
          Quote: unaha
          This implies a situation when vpn will be diligently jammed.

          They will never be able to "muffle" the vpn. Everyone just buy VPS, they are almost all over the hill, deploy your vpn or sox server (it's generally simple) and that's it, go wherever you want, if the well-known free ones are banned.
          1. unaha
            unaha 17 March 2021 07: 12
            0
            Not easy. DPIs are quite capable of tracking standard VPN signs. You will have to additionally "wrap" it in some standard protocol. Technically, of course, everything can be solved, but these are by no means massive methods. And the authorities will be quite satisfied with the exclusion of the simple majority from the "reality".
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 07: 30
              -4
              Quote: unaha
              Not easy. DPIs are quite capable of tracking the standard signs of VPNs .......

              Yes, just for people, ordinary soks5 should solve all problems, especially since it is quite possible for an average static housewife to raise them to vps and is extremely cheap. (DPI - if we are not talking about different things, substitution in the browser is solved).
              Quote: unaha
              And the authorities will be quite satisfied with the exclusion of the simple majority from the "reality".

              This is true, but at the end of the Brezhnev era and during the races on carriages, this did not end well for the authorities. But all the same I don’t want to go to "cheburnet".)))))
              1. unaha
                unaha 17 March 2021 07: 43
                0
                DPI is already an analysis of not only headers, but also the contents of packets. Those. roughly - they disassembled the packet, found the encrypted content inside, determined the type of encryption, concluded that the VPN was available, dropped the connection. Another thing is that the operators simply do not have enough resources to analyze all traffic, everything will stop.
                But it’s impossible to turn off the entire Internet in Myanmar, for example, right now - even the business supporting the coup “did not understand” such an attempt. Mobile communications are now turned off only for the night.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 07: 47
                  -3
                  Quote: unaha
                  DPI is not only an analysis of headers, ...

                  If it's not difficult to post a link or how it stands, I can't really understand what it is about.
                  Quote: unaha
                  And it's stupid to turn off the entire Internet for example ...

                  So, probably half of the business is tied to the Internet in one way or another.
                  1. unaha
                    unaha 17 March 2021 08: 03
                    0
                    Deep Packet Inspection
                  2. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 08: 14
                    -3
                    Quote: unaha
                    Deep Packet Inspection

                    Got it, I didn't mean it. Thank.
  • vadimtt
    vadimtt 17 March 2021 09: 07
    +1
    Everything is easier - you raise Open VPN on any import VPS-ke and voila - no one is afraid of you bully
    But I2P, of course, is even more interesting and promising, but it is still far from perfect, and the content does not allow us to consider it an alternative to the "Internet". And with sluices, like everyone else, they can block. Therefore, until the screws are completely tightened (and in the states too), I2P will be "under-interconnected".
  • Rubi0
    Rubi0 16 March 2021 18: 05
    +6
    What have the officials in general, they are simply looking for leverage. Twitter just has to comply with the laws of the country in which it operates like other companies. I would delete 3000 posts and continue working on health, They removed their President Trump and his supporters in batches and did not choke, and in the Russian Federation they are pumping their old organ about freedom of speech.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 20: 38
      -6
      Quote: Rubi0
      Twitter just has to comply with the laws of the country in which it operates like other companies. I would delete 3000 posts and continue to work on health,

      Twitter is an American company, if he deleted these accounts, he would most likely receive a lawsuit in an American court and firebrands for violating freedom of speech.
      1. Rubi0
        Rubi0 16 March 2021 20: 57
        +2
        Oh well, I’m saying that as our perezedent, we don’t care about the courts and freedom of speech, but as in a foreign country, we are all white lights of democracy, which is already sickening.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 21: 05
          -6
          Quote: Rubi0
          Oh well, I'm saying that as my re-submitter ...

          I don't know why they blocked Trump, but there was a formal reason, either extremism, or calls for something out there, I don't know for sure.
  • Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 17 March 2021 09: 31
    +1
    At my work, the TOP browser was blocked ((((((do not tell me how to get around? And also the torus eats a lot of traffic
    1. Kazbek
      Kazbek 17 March 2021 23: 06
      +1
      Install a VPN and run TOR through it. laughing good
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 18 March 2021 08: 06
        +1
        thanks for the advice, maybe it will help))) it remains to find out how to set it all up)))))
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 17 March 2021 11: 21
    +1
    There is a solution with blocking of violating networks at the country level, at least look at China. If there is political will, a VPN will not help.
    The point is not that there is no one to advise the legislators, there are no stupid ones there. With these resolutions, we are dealing with imitation of activity, - "he crowed, but there at least don't dawn." The decree on the ban was issued from afar, and that everything continues to work ...
    But why does the government harm itself? Any commander (and a smart manager) knows that there is nothing worse for the image than giving orders that are not followed.
  • zloybond
    zloybond 16 March 2021 16: 32
    +1
    this is especially true for officials.
  • Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 16 March 2021 16: 39
    +5
    Quote: Lesovik
    If they want to work in the zone of Russian jurisdiction, let them observe Russian laws.

    Let Roskomnadzor first open Vkontakte and see how much pornography there is.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 16 March 2021 16: 47
      +3
      In general, in parallel, whether Twitter will be closed or not ... well, what such a useful function does all this crap carry? Maybe a certain number of people will break away from gadgets and look at the real world ...
      Because of idleness, people hang out in these social networks ... replacing real life, life in a gadget ... that's why in the net everyone is so fierce ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 03
        -3
        Quote: Nasr
        Because of idleness, people hang out in these social networks ... replacing real life, life in a gadget ... that's why in the net everyone is so fierce ...

        There is some truth in this, but many simply work in social networks.
      2. unaha
        unaha 17 March 2021 07: 17
        -3
        "When the fashion came to burn books in the squares. In the first three days they burned all really dangerous books. But the fashion did not pass. Then they began to burn the rest of the books indiscriminately. Now there are no books at all. They are burning straw." © Schwartz
        "In general, in parallel, whether Twitter will be closed or not" - do you really think that it will be limited only to Twitter?
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 17 March 2021 10: 27
          +1
          Quote: unaha

          .. do you really think you will be limited to just twitter?

          Violet !!!! BUT !!! The Internet will not collapse, even if you tearfully beg to close everything and everyone ... and there are many reasons for this, even if it is banal to follow your every step, every purchase, every receipt of money. Yes, ... for example, Sberbank did not just go to the IT sphere, having invested a bunch of dough ... Gref, a priori not a sucker, to throw money with money ...
          Many things on the Internet are really useful for speeding up various activities, but I can't call social networks useful ... entertainment.
          1. unaha
            unaha 17 March 2021 11: 13
            0
            "I can't call social networks useful ... entertainment." As an example - linkedin, it is quite a social network, but by no means entertainment. It is not worth generalizing.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 17 March 2021 11: 45
              +1
              Quote: unaha
              "I can't call social networks useful ... entertainment." As an example - linkedin, it is quite a social network, but by no means entertainment. It is not worth generalizing.

              hehe, never even heard of her ... and somehow I live, I work!
              1. unaha
                unaha 17 March 2021 11: 59
                0
                But for those working in IT, it is known and useful. And next time they will cover up some other specialized, but useful resource for a certain industry for far-fetched reasons. And someday they will probably get to the resources you need in your activity.
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 16: 51
      0
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      Let Roskomnadzor first open Vkontakte and see how much pornography there is.

      It's not about pornography, but about dissidents, elections are coming soon, the bucket rating tends to zero. And pornography is a cash cow, who will cut it? Google on the promotion of Vkontakte groups, or look at zismo.biz, you will see a lot of interesting things.
      1. Kart
        Kart 16 March 2021 17: 03
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        It's not about pornography, but about dissidents, elections are coming soon, the bucket rating tends to zero.

        Yes, yes, of course. I will knock.
        Most nafig don't need these twitter shmitters.
        And to you, dissenters, on a note - do not cry until system administrators in civilian clothes come to your apartment.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 23
          -9
          Quote: Carte
          And to you, dissenters, on a note - do not cry until system administrators in civilian clothes come to your apartment.

          I am not writing anything illegal. Thanks to the new laws of the Aesopes, I learned the language well. You, dreaming of a fascist state, have short lapchins.
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 16 March 2021 18: 03
          -7
          until system administrators in civilian clothes came to your apartment.
          what, and let them go, first they will take the order with them and wait for my lawyer, or whatever it is in other "Palestinians" - a resolution ... otherwise you can run into it, so I have a lot of "little friends", weighing different calibers on the wall now. ..and they do not like very much such "boors", like: administrators in civilian clothes! wink laughing
        3. unaha
          unaha 17 March 2021 07: 27
          -1
          The "majority", in this case, apparently does not need anything at all. No education, no health care, no pensions, no freedom in general, and no speech and expression in particular.
    3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 March 2021 16: 52
      +8
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      Let Roskomnadzor first open Vkontakte and see how much pornography there is.

      Can I get a link? A friend asks.
      1. Nikon OConor
        Nikon OConor 16 March 2021 18: 32
        0
        + "grandmother" is interested))
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 March 2021 18: 46
          0
          Quote: Nikon OConor
          grandma "is interested in

          Grandfathers.
    4. K150
      K150 17 March 2021 04: 13
      +1
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      Quote: Lesovik
      If they want to work in the zone of Russian jurisdiction, let them observe Russian laws.

      Let Roskomnadzor first open Vkontakte and see how much pornography there is.

      And now specific examples of childish p0pno referred to in the claims. No, I do not trudge on this, but you freeze heresy. The same p0pnhab is not blocked - authorization via VK and at least wipe all your palms. And because there is no child's play. It's funny that the site does not miss a message without gimmicks.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 March 2021 16: 47
    -1
    Who are we waiting for? "Tweet" received warnings for 3 years in a row! Why, 2 years ago, this Twitter was not blocked?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 24
      -6
      Quote: Thrifty
      Who are we waiting for? "Tweet" received warnings for 3 years in a row! Why, 2 years ago, this Twitter was not blocked?

      Personally, how did the tweeter stop you?
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 16 March 2021 17: 41
        +5
        Alekseykabanets - the same as for the whole adequate country - lack of control over the supplied material! If there are a bunch of fakes, there are continuous calls for suicide, there are constant clicks on Russia, do you like it? Then, I will never understand you. ....
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 56
          -6
          Quote: Thrifty
          If there are a bunch of fakes, there are continuous calls for suicide, there are constant clicks on Russia, do you like it?

          A lot of fakes are shown on TV, and movies are shot on fakes and shit on their country. Maybe we'd better ban TV? There are no more calls for suicide than in domestic social networks. I am simply opposed to prohibitive measures in relation to any information. If it’s a fake, then it’s necessary to sue the person who publishes. Many people need a tweeter for work.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 16 March 2021 18: 58
            -6
            A lot of fakes are shown on TV, and movies are shot on fakes and shit on their country.
            , like the animation is zaboristy, like Russian vodka!?:

            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 20: 46
              -6
              Quote: Intruder
              , like the animation is zaboristy, like Russian vodka!?:

              That's not, I'm more about "nightingale droppings" and films like "Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya". It turns out that she went to her death "for a rye bun, for a brother and for a tram." With my own hand I would have strangled everyone involved in the creation of this trash heap. The fact that they are praising Musolini on TV with Pinochet, Hitler is a brave man, that means it’s in the order of things, and tweeter should be banned, okay?
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 16 March 2021 21: 12
                -5
                The fact that they are praising Musolini on TV with Pinochet, Hitler is a brave man, that means it’s in the order of things, and tweeter should be banned, okay?
                Well ... how can I tell you, after all, on the other side of the front - Stalin and his comrades were bloody commissars for some of the intelligentsia !? winked
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 21: 22
                  -5
                  Quote: Intruder
                  Well ... how can I tell you, after all, on the other side of the front - Stalin and his comrades were bloody commissars for some of the intelligentsia !?

                  So they were on the other side of the front, and these are here ...
              2. Intruder
                Intruder 16 March 2021 21: 14
                -5
                The fact that they are there on TV
                I do not recommend watching it, because a Nazi invention bully , before lunch, and after it, also strongly - I do not recommend it !!!
        2. K150
          K150 17 March 2021 04: 16
          0
          Quote: Thrifty
          Alekseykabanets - the same as for the whole adequate country - lack of control over the supplied material! If there are a bunch of fakes, there are continuous calls for suicide, there are constant clicks on Russia, do you like it? Then, I will never understand you. ....

          This is a local pro-American troll on a salary, in some articles mimicking a communist, fiercely hates Putin and defends Ukrainian and American, which is why there are tons of minuses. But where the communist mows - tons of pluses. But in those articles, an audience like him - Svarog, Sylvester and others.
  • Terenin
    Terenin 16 March 2021 17: 26
    +3
    As Mr. Subbotin notes, if Twitter does not delete the information prohibited by Russian law, then in a month it can expect a complete blocking on the territory of the Russian Federation.
    This is courage and courage !? belay How did Mr. Subbotin get this out of himself? what
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 16 March 2021 17: 34
    -1
    Quote: Lesovik
    This also applies to officials.

    And it is them in the first place. They are all THERE grazing and ranting. To a simple Russian user, this twitter did not fall to hell.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 16 March 2021 16: 09
    +5
    Terms of possible complete blocking of Twitter in Russia have been announced
    Someone is unlucky ... but you can move somewhere else.
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 16 March 2021 16: 20
      +25
      And to whom in general in parallel - for example, I have neither Twitter, nor Instagram, nor any other gram, and I never had, only mail and Skype.
      1. nnm
        nnm 16 March 2021 16: 32
        +12
        I don't know anything, I still have ICQ laughing
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 06
          +5
          I don't know anything, I still have ICQ
          I have Wire / protonmail - the main and other similar services and two gateways at home, plus different channels with a hot standby and other interesting things .., and all sorts of "tweets and instammi", I don't use the word at all, the old one is already visible, laziness - take pictures of breakfast every morning and kittens! laughing wink
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 16 March 2021 17: 10
            +2
            Quote: Intruder
            too lazy - to photograph breakfast every morning and kittens!

            How lazy? Kittens? This is sacred! I photographed the cat twice today. Here's our collective fi
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 26
              +2
              Mutually, but here is the answer of my Cyclops, the cat withstood an unequal battle on the street, did not retreat with a couple of Dobermans, brave (she goes to the shooting gallery with me now and is not afraid of shots, devil ...), then, of course, the "republican cavalry" in my face pulled up , lost one eye .., I took this Amazon to me, after treatment, she lives now:
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 16 March 2021 17: 31
                +1
                They also took them from the street, they call me Pelmeshka. The street ones are the best. True, she did not find herself in the trash, we found her.
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 37
                  +1
                  They also took them from the street, they call me Pelmeshka. The street ones are the best. True, she did not find herself in the trash, we found her.
                  All my life, that cats or dogs, from the street (cats are all brave and cats match them ... with real combat experience, the last cat of the owner defended, from the crazy dog ​​one, the dog broke off the leash angry and stupid, and ... Well, my Vaska, Siam, half and 12 kg of pure evil meat (with a beef heart with blood, only fed him all his life), his face was valid and patted with accurate blows of the front claws) - I don't buy friends, I just lose in my life ...! request
                  1. yehat2
                    yehat2 18 March 2021 11: 41
                    0
                    12 kg? this is a hippopotamus!
                    my cat was 8 - and that is a healthy bull.
                    and 12 is a tank of some kind.
                    1. Intruder
                      Intruder 18 March 2021 13: 09
                      +1
                      12 kg? this is a hippopotamus!
                      He was not a pure Siamese, an interesting cross between: dad is a Maine Coon, and mom is a Siam, the size of American aborigines with the character and disposition of Siamese, plus he fed him not all sorts of food for cats, but meat and water, only his whole life ... , Lived with me for 7 years !!! And then, he went to the land of the eternal hunt .. (I hope there, he is better than here) !!!
                      12 is a tank of some kind.
                      from 6 months, catching birds and squirrels in trees and bringing me, like: "you will eat ... Homo !?" I picked it up in nature, at 3 months old, my dog ​​was not scared, sat on its tail, pinched on it and showed its claws on its front legs ..., the dog led to him! smile
                      1. yehat2
                        yehat2 18 March 2021 16: 52
                        0
                        and mine ate scraps from the table and boiled fish and chicken, peas and sour cream
                        lived for 22 years. In his youth, he ate everything - acetone glue, pickles, vodka, potatoes, his own wool, etc. And at the age of 2 he became picky.
                      2. Intruder
                        Intruder 18 March 2021 20: 30
                        0
                        lived for 22 years.
                        I was lucky, my first dog (courtyard blood) lived so much, two cataracts and cirrhosis of the liver in a difficult course, I had to put it to sleep ... well, he was an excellent friend, by devotion and intelligence (the smartest of the four in my life ...), she gave me light bulbs in the dark, took the base with her teeth and dragged me in the dark, in her house when he lived in the Russian Federation !!!
                      3. Intruder
                        Intruder 18 March 2021 20: 32
                        0
                        In his youth, he ate everything - acetone glue,
                        bye .., did he himself a taxi addict ... il, who advised him with a sinful deed !? wink laughing
                      4. yehat2
                        yehat2 18 March 2021 20: 53
                        +1
                        I ate everything I saw
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 30
        -1
        hi
        Quote: Intruder
        I have Wire / protonmail - basic

        There are no secure mails and private messengers. ))))))
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 40
          -1
          There are no secure mails and private messengers. ))))))
          And safety, as well as health and time - in life, is always lacking !!! wink laughing That is why there is no such thing, nothing safe ..., only within the permissible values ​​!?
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 17: 57
            -2
            Quote: Intruder
            only within the allowed values ​​!?

            Exactly! Each "project" has its own permissible values.))))
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 16 March 2021 18: 07
              -1
              For each "project" its permissible values
              yes, that's the only way, and most importantly, secrecy and unpredictability, or non-repeatability even in keys and passwords, with logins and resources wink laughing
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 16 March 2021 21: 06
          +1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          There are no secure mails and private messengers

          Even a condom is not 100% guaranteed. laughing
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 16 March 2021 21: 18
            0
            Even a condom is not 100% guaranteed.
            Exactly, ".. only two layers of electrical tape and epoxy ... or even better instead of ..." laughing wink
      3. Nikon OConor
        Nikon OConor 16 March 2021 18: 38
        +2
        I support, too old probably!)) I just don't understand what for? What do we have? every Instagram user is a nutritionist? Or is everyone wondering what I'm eating? I eat borscht, sauerkraut, pilaf ... yes, my wife is a chef in a restaurant, but I eat homemade)) plus))
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 16 March 2021 21: 26
          0
          And my wife is a doctor, with 20 years of experience, and I also eat homemade, she will cook for me until evening, and then in the morning to work in her spacesuit ... and last year, at a distance, I ate ... like a pig, here now I throw off too much !!! But even then, I don’t understand why I’m going to take pictures and upload, and so every day .., of course, it looks original .., but still ...!? winked
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 16 March 2021 16: 40
    +10
    Quote: WHAT IS
    And to whom in general in parallel - for example, I have neither Twitter, nor Instagram, nor any other gram, and I never had, only mail and Skype.

    Similarly.
    To be scattered on twenty resources, there will not be enough time. hi
  • Simon schempp
    Simon schempp 16 March 2021 16: 54
    -8
    And to whom in general in parallel - for example, I have neither Twitter, nor Instagram, nor any other gram, and I never had, only mail and Skype.

    Well, as usual. I'll hide my hut.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 16 March 2021 17: 59
      +5
      Come on ... we will leave the twitter and other huts to you, at your complete disposal. Rejoice.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 23: 49
        -8
        Quote: rocket757
        Come on ... we will leave the twitter and other huts to you, at your complete disposal. Rejoice.

        "Never ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for you" John Donne. And what will be closed after the tweeter? What works will be removed from the school curriculum? Which books will be banned? Who will be imprisoned? Will it still be the same?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 17 March 2021 06: 01
          0
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          ? What works will be removed from the school curriculum? Which books will be banned

          We must start with this, so we will not wait ... how much work will have to be done so that there is no distortion of the worldview of our children and all because of the different goats z L s who hate our great Motherland and are ready to lick for a sirloin enemies.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 08: 06
            -1
            Quote: rocket757
            That's where we need to start, so we can't wait ...

            Well, yes, it is for this reason that "What is good and what is bad", "The Thunderstorm" of Ostrovsky, "The Story of a Real Man" Zoshchenko and Sholokhov were removed from the school curriculum completely, etc. Are you in favor of this? Are you campaigning for such liberal changes?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 17 March 2021 08: 35
              +1
              Mistake!!!
              If you look at the selection of books, films that my heirs, pupils have, there is no such rubbish that, as you suggested, I am campaigning for!
              But there is A. Gaidar, V. Kataev, V. Bazhev and ...
              And I certainly introduce my pupils to the historiography of those Soviet, Russian, foreign designers, when they assemble models of equipment created by them.
              Boys love to collect military equipment, that's why I tell what our warriors, heroes, fought on it.
              In addition to technical training, we have to learn the history of our Motherland .... at school, unfortunately, a lot is deleted from the curriculum.
              So ... well, what do people like me stand up for, campaign for? What are we teaching?
              For social networks .... with me, none of them, NEVER, will climb to watch different Tik-Toki and other similar rubbish!
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 08: 47
                -2
                Quote: rocket757
                at school, unfortunately, a lot has been deleted from the curriculum.

                Yes it is. The school prepares egoists and consumers.
                Quote: rocket757
                For social networks .... with me, none of them, NEVER, will climb to watch different Tik-Toki and other similar rubbish!

                And without you? Maybe it is better to try to teach children to sort information received from various sources? We are not going anywhere from the Internet and the same from social networks.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 17 March 2021 09: 09
                  +1
                  Do you think WHAT? That knowledge of the HISTORY of their country, knowledge of world history, albeit with a technical, military bias, does not give them anything?
                  When I told them the history of television, video recordings, aircraft construction, I told them about V. Zvarykin, I. Sikorsky, the Wright brothers ... I told THE WHOLE TRUTH, of course, taking into account their age.
                  After all, I have guys athletes and I went with them to watch all the films about athletes ... naturally I had to give my own, adult assessments, explanations ... thousands of why and how.
                  About social networks and computer shooters ... I don’t prohibit them, precisely because I’m not going to limit them, control them ... I teach you to draw the right conclusions, make the right decisions. By the way, advertising on TV helped me a lot with this, it's like a competition, find the stupidest, most fraudulent advertisement.
                  He even explained to them about the "financial pyramids" and gambling, to the older guys, of course. They all read O. Henry and about Smoka Bellew .... many liked it, began to read more !!!
                  I confess that the picture is still not ideal, especially when the parents of the children do not listen to what I ask them to help, control ... alas, alas.
                  Something like this.

                  .
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 09: 18
                    0
                    Quote: rocket757
                    Do you think WHAT? That knowledge of the HISTORY of their country, knowledge of world history, albeit with a technical, military bias, does not give them anything?

                    It gives a lot, if you lead a circle and do history with children, then thank you very much for your work. However, we should not forget that classical literature, among other things, teaches us to see the characters of a person (one of the reasons why we wrote essays in childhood), we should not miss this. How cool the characters are described in "Quiet Don" or "The Thunderstorm", today it is hard work to teach children to read, in spite of school.
                  2. rocket757
                    rocket757 17 March 2021 09: 29
                    +2
                    So who else to talk about, if not about Kozhedub, Meresiev, Karbyshev, Degtyarev, Koshkin, Kotin, Lavochkin and others ...
                    When the boys came to me and began to swear at the journalist who called Kosmodemyanskaya, Gastello, Matrosov and our other heroes crazy !!! I realized that I’m not eating my sandwich in vain! By the way, I made an agreement at school and went with the guys to Stalingrad, to the Panikakha monument, to the Panorama ... the best thing is to show
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 16 March 2021 17: 19
    +3
    I sometimes use VK, but these Western garbage dumps are not needed for nothing.
  • cniza
    cniza 16 March 2021 16: 37
    +3
    Quote: rocket757
    Terms of possible complete blocking of Twitter in Russia have been announced
    Someone is unlucky ... but you can move somewhere else.


    A storm is in a glass of water, but they must be brought in line and forced to comply with our norms and requirements ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 16 March 2021 17: 57
      +1
      Well, yes, we will live without pussies ... especially since I have only males and pussies for one tooth!
      1. cniza
        cniza 16 March 2021 18: 02
        +2
        So thank God there is sufficient competition and you can "build" them ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 March 2021 18: 09
          +2
          Twitter itself is practically dead, judging by their financial statements .... not a big loss, if any.
  • K150
    K150 17 March 2021 04: 18
    -1
    Instagram is a half-dead service, before Trump began to smoke badly there, he was already living out his last days in fact.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 March 2021 06: 08
      0
      Should we be sad ..... we have nothing and nothing about these, other services does not support, even if Dimon with a red devil nestles / signs up somewhere, this will not improve the rating of services
      And other serious guys, in such a foolishness WERE NOT seen !!!
  • WHAT IS
    WHAT IS 16 March 2021 16: 10
    +11
    The same as it will be with Telegram, probably ..
    Telegram continued, using well-known technologies, to communicate even those officials who themselves insisted on the need to block it.

    Officials of all stripes nowadays, without it, Twitter and life is not sweet, only there they write on the case and without.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 16 March 2021 16: 10
    +3
    It would be wise to forget and throw an offer - if you want to make money, build a local server for the Russian Federation and all correspondence with control through it from the Russian Federation, that is, all subscribers are only on the server within the country. But no, roll like that. The Chinese send them in front of them and listen to them somehow.
    1. Darkesstcat
      Darkesstcat 16 March 2021 16: 26
      +4
      So they try, only this is not a Chinese firewall, but a patch on a patch.
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 16 March 2021 16: 26
      +1
      The Chinese send them in front of them and listen to them somehow.

      In China, the national Internet was originally built on completely different principles. They can actually carry out most of the threats. Unlike us. Although, of course, not all. Plus - a colossal market.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 16: 14
    -1
    of course they won't be able to block, but it's a pity
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 16: 24
      +7
      and someone really thinks that they can block? !!
      I have 15 blocked sites in my bookmarks and somehow I use them
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 16 March 2021 16: 44
        +3
        For example, you have a local network at home connected to a router. Only you can control the router. The question is - can you block access to certain sites for your children using the router? On a national scale, it is the same, but much more expensive. Plus, the "router with firewall" should be in the hands of the state. It is, of course, possible to get around, but not for everyone and not all the time. A kind of lottery with the main prize, an individually selected article of the Criminal Code ...
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 16: 46
          0
          Quote: dzvero
          It is, of course, possible to get around, but not for everyone and not all the time.

          keywords "not for everyone and not all the time"
        2. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 16 March 2021 17: 05
          -2
          Quote: dzvero
          For example, you have a local network at home connected to a router. Only you can control the router. The question is - can you block access to certain sites for your children using the router? On a national scale, it is the same, but much more expensive. Plus, the "router with firewall" should be in the hands of the state. It is, of course, possible to get around, but not for everyone and not all the time. A kind of lottery with the main prize, an individually selected article of the Criminal Code ...

          My answer is no, you cannot)) I will bypass all your prohibitions) Here you cannot help with prohibitive measures
          1. dzvero
            dzvero 16 March 2021 18: 03
            +1
            Get around is our everything smile But the game of cat and mouse gets bored with time, and then at first the mice ...
            Prohibitive measures will not help here

            For example, I never put bans at home and there were no problems. But here everything rests on responsibility and conscientiousness. This will work at home, but at the level of the people ... there will always be alternatively gifted or simply embittered.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 March 2021 12: 03
        0
        Not only everyone can bypass the lock, very few people can do it lol
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 16: 15
    +8
    the easiest way is not blocking, but a ban on advertising in these social networks and fine not tweeter, but advertisers on the territory of the Russian Federation
  • faterdom
    faterdom 16 March 2021 16: 16
    +7
    Correctly! They banned Trump too.
    And we will ban them!
    By the way, if they are beaten, then one by one, then China, then Iran, then Turkey ... But everyone needs to call, and, say, from 15.04 dosvidos, everywhere ...
    And let them then act on behalf of "all civilized humanity."
    And let them earn money there, and not in China, Russia or Turkey.
    It is very easy to be convinced that "everything civilized" does not have all the money in the world and not even the entire advertising audience.
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 16 March 2021 16: 22
      +11
      It is logical that if you beat these, then with a ruble, they will immediately understand this language.
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 16 March 2021 16: 26
    +8
    Roskomnadzor has no technical capabilities to prohibit something on the Internet that is not Russian, it would be better to try to fine.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 16: 29
      +4
      we must do as the Americans are fined for cooperation with a sanctioned organization, we will not reach tweeter, but you can cut off the flow of money
  • for
    for 16 March 2021 16: 36
    +5
    "Adult industry", suicide propaganda, etc.

    That is, you can do this for a month.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 16 March 2021 17: 10
      +2
      In a sense, universal human values ​​are also suicide propaganda.
  • cheburator
    cheburator 16 March 2021 16: 38
    +1
    Long overdue!
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 16 March 2021 16: 38
    0
    It is necessary not to block, but to add
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 18: 06
      -6
      Quote: Cowbra
      It is necessary not to block, but to add

      That is, you call on the state to commit a criminal offense? So can we solve DDoS for everyone? Think before you write.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 16 March 2021 18: 14
        0
        What kind of fright is this a criminal offense? This is an analogue of a jammer on MIREA, for example - absolutely the same thing. Emitter, i.e. Twitter - violates our legislation, the state has the right to jam it, and this does not contradict any international treaty
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 18: 23
          -4
          Quote: Cowbra
          What kind of fright is this a criminal offense?

          As a rule, they are punished under Article 273 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - the creation, use and distribution of malicious computer programs. Punishment. Deprivation of liberty for up to seven years with a fine of up to 200 thousand rubles.
          If DDoS attacks are aimed at violating journalistic rights, the actions fall under Article 144 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - obstruction of the legitimate professional activities of a journalist.
          Punishment: imprisonment for up to six years or a fine of up to 800 thousand rubles.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 16 March 2021 19: 07
            0
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            creation, use and distribution of malicious computer programs.

            You are mistaken, and on two points at once - it is problematic to attach harmfulness - harm is done, white noise is started up, which does not harm information or equipment in any way ... And second, the state - anybody - has a monopoly on violence. The state does not violate any of its laws by blocking the distribution of prohibited content. At the same time, the state does not violate any international laws, blocking the distribution of content prohibited in the Russian Federation - this is not regulated by international agreements at all, and we are in our right.
            They will say - we will propose to create an international supervisory body for blocking content in the same Twitter, the USA will be the first to refuse laughing
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 20: 57
              -6
              Quote: Cowbra
              You are mistaken, and on two points at once - it is problematic to attach harmfulness - no harm is done, white noise is started up, which does not harm information or equipment in any way ...

              And you let such "white noise" on the website of state services, for example, and then write what the investigator told you.
              Quote: Cowbra
              The state does not violate any of its laws by blocking the distribution of prohibited content.

              Yes it is, but the Russian Federation has signed international agreements on human rights, and the laws of the Russian Federation must not violate the agreements signed by the state. This time, secondly, you don't understand the difference between blocking a site and a cyber attack on it?
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 16 March 2021 21: 01
                0
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                And you let such "white noise" on the website of state services

                I have no right to install jammers. The state has it.
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Yes it is, but the Russian Federation has signed international agreements on human rights, and the laws of the Russian Federation must not violate the agreements signed by the state.

                They do not break it. Just how is it to the jammers? By the way, these agreements were not signed by everyone. for example, the USA. There is no mention in "human rights" of blocking a website or other mass media in any way. Moreover, there are no international agreements on "cyberattacks", there is even no such concept in international diplomacy. RF in its own right. Provide at least some document on which we can not hang the site. Exactly in the same way as white noise starts up on the wave of broadcasting of any enemy radio. Exactly the same
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 21: 09
                  -6
                  Quote: Cowbra
                  I have no right to install jammers. The state has it.

                  Do you absolutely not see the difference between DDoS and "jammer"? Read the mat part. hi
                  1. Cowbra
                    Cowbra 16 March 2021 22: 07
                    0
                    Once again, there are absolutely no prohibitions. hi If you find it, then bring the materiel, I'll read it. And there is a difference or not - in general, nobody cares. There is a difference between, for example, the propaganda of violence on TV and on the Internet - so what?
                    1. K150
                      K150 17 March 2021 04: 25
                      -4
                      Quote: Cowbra
                      Once again, there are absolutely no prohibitions. hi If you find it, then bring the materiel, I'll read it. And there is a difference or not - in general, nobody cares. There is a difference between, for example, the propaganda of violence on TV and on the Internet - so what?

                      It is useless to explain to an impenetrable clown on a sn. The United States is feeding everyone, putting in power systems and sending viruses to nuclear facilities - I don't see that. And then immediately screeching about illegality.
      2. K150
        K150 17 March 2021 04: 23
        +1
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: Cowbra
        It is necessary not to block, but to add

        That is, you call on the state to commit a criminal offense? So can we solve DDoS for everyone? Think before you write.

        Clown, is it legal that your beloved USA finished off our servers, took out the Venezuelan power grid? I would have buried myself and did not write nonsense.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 07: 58
          -4
          Quote: K150
          Clown, and the fact that your beloved us finished our servers

          Clown is the surname of some boors with incomprehensible nicknames. If these narrow-minded boors knew how to read and understand what they read, they would be surprised that no one praises the United States in the comments above. And yes, any cyberattack from any state is illegal.
  • Garist Pavel
    Garist Pavel 16 March 2021 16: 40
    +7
    Ha ha, how scary)) Personally, I need it like a dog's fifth leg, you understand) but in general, all these Twiery are pampering. Let them turn it off, it will be better. Let all social networks be turned off, the children will even go out into the street, but they will develop normally, not like now: walking apps of smartphones.)
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 16
      -8
      Let all social networks be turned off, children even go out into the street, but they will develop normally,
      Yeah, they will come out ... with plastic cups and snowballs, there will be a stench ... belay , and then computer games on CD / DVD will run to buy, after sweeping the drives in hardware stores and exchange with friends, plus the prices of drives will rise to the skies, again media piracy will arise, in underground passages and on market stalls !?
      1. for
        for 16 March 2021 17: 41
        +3
        Quote: Intruder
        computer on CD | DVD will run to buy,

        Why download any pirate and play.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 54
          -5
          Why download any pirate and play.
          Duc, online games in Chubernet will be blocked, there will be no torrents and network connections to game services will be blocked .., only optical disks and drives, as in the good old days, left the house with a hard (or as now with an SSD) and beer, and then to a friend ...
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 18: 25
            -2
            Quote: Intruder
            Duc, online games in Chubernet will be blocked, there will be no torrents and network connections to game services will be blocked ..,

            On the tricky "fifth point" there is always "one piece" with a screw.)))))
  • Simon schempp
    Simon schempp 16 March 2021 16: 58
    -8
    La, I read the comments and do not understand how you can advocate for limiting your own freedom to receive information. After all, everyone understands that this is a precedent. Twitter will be banned today, facebook tomorrow, YouTube the day after tomorrow. And a month later, long live the cheburnet, with sites approved by the government and the Russian Orthodox Church.
    It’s so good that I don’t live in the Russian Federation.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 17: 05
      0
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      how you can advocate for limiting your own freedom to receive information.

      that you are completely blocked by tyrnet?
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      Twitter will be banned today, facebook tomorrow, YouTube the day after tomorrow.

      killer logic
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      It’s so good that I don’t live in the Russian Federation.

      agree with you
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 18: 15
        -7
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Simon Schempp
        Twitter will be banned today, facebook tomorrow, YouTube the day after tomorrow.

        killer logic

        What's wrong with his logic, Colleague? He writes everything correctly. Only pro-government resources will have such an opportunity. I may have forgotten what, but we have freedom of speech according to the constitution, don't we?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 19: 01
          +2
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          What's wrong with his logic, Colleague?

          yes everything is not so
          pornography is banned today and tomorrow ...
          What is the difference?
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 20: 49
            -5
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            yes everything is not so
            pornography is banned today and tomorrow ...
            What is the difference?

            The fact that pornography has nothing to do with the constitutional right to freedom of speech. There you can turn off the sound, nothing will change.)))))))
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 21: 05
              +1
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              The fact that pornography has nothing to do with the constitutional right to freedom of speech.

              and where is it spelled out in the constitution ?!
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 21: 07
                -5
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                and where is it spelled out in the constitution ?!

                Article 29 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation guarantees everyone freedom of thought and speech, the right to freely seek, receive, transmit, produce and distribute information in any legal way; freedom of the media is guaranteed; censorship is prohibited.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 21: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Article 29 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation guarantees everyone freedom of thought and speech, the right to freely seek, receive, transmit, produce and distribute information in any legal way; freedom of the media is guaranteed; censorship is prohibited.

                  where is there even a word about the prohibition of porn ?!
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 21: 10
                    -4
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    The fact that pornography has nothing to do with the constitutional right to freedom of speech. There you can turn off the sound, nothing will change.)))))))

                    After all, I wrote that pornography does not apply to freedom of speech.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 21: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      After all, I wrote that pornography does not apply to freedom of speech.

                      and why did you decide that ?!
                      By the way, the ban on Solzhenitsyn refers to freedom of speech?
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 22: 01
                        -5
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        By the way, the ban on Solzhenitsyn refers to freedom of speech?

                        Do we have a ban on these "immortal" creations? I have an extremely negative attitude to the "creativity" of this author, but it cannot be forbidden. It is necessary to suppress the inclinations of those who are trying to pass them off as documentary filmmaking.
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 22: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        I have an extremely negative attitude to the "creativity" of this author, but it cannot be forbidden.

                        that is, the prohibition of porn is a prohibition of freedom of speech, which was required to be proved
                      3. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 22: 39
                        -5
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        that is, the prohibition of porn is a prohibition of freedom of speech, which was required to be proved

                        Where did I write that pornography cannot be prohibited? What does pornography have to do with free speech in general?
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 23: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        What does pornography have to do with free speech in general?

                        straight you have brought everything to the point of absurdity, so I showed you how you can develop this absurdity further
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 17: 05
    0
    Quote: Simon Schempp
    Twitter will be banned today, facebook tomorrow, YouTube the day after tomorrow.

    I realized that you just accused Twitter of restricting freedom of speech ?!
  • dauria
    dauria 16 March 2021 17: 20
    +6
    It’s so good that I don’t live in the Russian Federation.


    For the Russian Federation it is definitely good ... laughing Live where you live in "freedom and tolerance ...". Get the information you want. The main thing is not to crap yourself. Wash the information with soap before use, you never know where and where it was lying around. wink
    1. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 16 March 2021 17: 29
      -5
      Wash the information before use with soap, you never know where and where it was lying around.

      Yes Yes. Very funny.

      March 12 2021

      Dean of the Faculty of World Politics at Moscow State University, Andrei Sidorov, on the air of the program "Evening with Vladimir Solovyov" on the state TV channel "Russia 24" issued a note from the satirical publication "Panorama" as real news.

      The day before, the news appeared on the Panorama website: “The EU demanded to add LGBT characters to the cartoon“ Masha and the Bear ”. At the same time, the publication separately warns that all the notes contained in it are fictitious.

      "Recently, the European Parliament adopted a demand for one of our animators, a producer of films for little ones" Masha and the Bear. " - said the head of the faculty on the air of the program.

      After that, the guests of the show began to discuss which of the cartoon characters can be made an LGBT person.

      "And you want to say that this is the Europe with which we must enter into human relations?" - said the host Solovyov.

  • Intruder
    Intruder 16 March 2021 17: 47
    -3
    La, I read the comments and do not understand how you can advocate for limiting your own freedom to receive information. After all, everyone understands that this is a precedent. Twitter will be banned today, facebook tomorrow, YouTube the day after tomorrow. And a month later, long live the cheburnet, with sites approved by the government and the Russian Orthodox Church.
    And then, other things will also be banned, here I wear a knife (EDC) always and not only, because on the left there is a belt with a subcompact, in a case a folding box is legal for a board, there are docks about purchasing in a store, etc., so so many sometimes stupid questions from people and the police, why and for what such a set .., although canonically: a knife is a sign of a free person (it is forbidden for a slave ...)! sad
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 18: 10
    -5
    Quote: Simon Schempp
    La, I read the comments and do not understand how you can advocate for limiting your own freedom to receive information.

    They just forgot how to think, and many did not know how.
    Quote: Simon Schempp
    And a month later, long live the cheburnet, with sites approved by the government and the Russian Orthodox Church.

    Well, that's what they lead to. A fascist state is being built little by little.
    1. Light
      Light 16 March 2021 22: 37
      +1
      Nothing that is blocking the fascist liberal dump, which tightly blocks even our media, even Trump, and everything that does not correspond to the policy of the fascist globalists?
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 16 March 2021 22: 55
        -4
        Quote: Bright
        Nothing that is blocking the fascist liberal dump, in which even our media is tightly blocked, even Trump, and everything that does not correspond to the policy of the fascist globalists?

        How does the "fascist liberal tweeter dump" differ from the "fascist liberal VK dump"? Where and why domestic media are blocked on Twitter Do you know? Do you know why you blocked Trump? I know that Twitter (and not only) is blocked for dishonest cheating, for extremism, incitement to violence and much more. Climb on zismo.biz and see how social networks work, one or another and about tweeter there is also about VK, etc. Each grid works according to its own rules. My comment above says that any information resource is valuable in its own way, it is foolish to speak out for depriving yourself of information.
        1. Light
          Light 16 March 2021 23: 48
          0
          I read only the news, a bunch of Russian accounts were blocked allegedly connected with the government or undermining faith in NATO, rubbed Trump's tweets about election violations, post-election appeals (as well as most American media outlets). All right, they would only be engaged in political censorship, but it is stupid to ignore appeals to delete prohibited materials with childish content, calls for suicide, etc., despite the fact that we do not have the server and we cannot influence this, unlike VK, this is too much. They will not pay any fines, so just block them. In general, such one-sided informational Russophobic and tolerant garbage dumpsters, from the Censor to CNN, have already spread like dirt, so you shouldn't worry about the closure of the next one.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 00: 13
            -3
            Quote: Bright
            a bunch of Russian accounts were blocked allegedly connected with the government or undermining faith in NATO,

            Is there any bourgeois news about this? Better English? I haven’t seen the facts there yet, only blah-blah-blah.
            Quote: Bright
            rubbed Trump's tweets about election violations, post-election appeals (as well as most American media outlets)

            Let's leave Trump's tweets alone, neither you nor I know the details. You didn’t understand why you blocked Trump from different sources, did you?
            Quote: Bright
            All right, they would only be engaged in political censorship, but it is stupid to ignore appeals to delete prohibited materials with childish pornography, calls for suicide

            A couple of years ago I worked on Twitter, as far as I remember, there was even a ban for bare breasts. If I don't confuse it with any other mesh, of course. Regarding calls to suicide, I have not seen them either. There are short messages on Twitter, 120 characters in my opinion, what calls for suicide can be put into 120 characters, I don't understand. In any case, if there are links to such aki on Twitter, give me a link, I will be surprised.
            Quote: Bright
            Such one-sided informational Russophobic garbage dumpsters, from the Censor to CNN, have already spread like dirt, so you shouldn't worry about the closure of the next one.

            Our "Politicus" is no different from the censor, only polarity, and CNN is no different from Rush Today, only polarity. There are few facts everywhere, but a lot of emotions. If you want to know what is really going on in the world, you need to read and the enemies are the same, only then you can form an impartial view of certain events.
            1. Light
              Light 17 March 2021 02: 09
              0
              Of course, I will not look for these forbidden accounts and tweets, firstly, this is a violation of the law, and secondly, I am not even registered there. But here is a link to Roskomnadzor, how many violations and complaints were sent to https://rkn.gov.ru/news/rsoc/news73436.htm
              Here is an example of blocking Rusaks with a link to Twitter itself https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/disclosing-networks-of-state-linked-information-operations-.html
              Or they can still block it, then unblock it by removing all subscribers https://profile.ru/news/society/twitter-razblokiroval-akkaunt-delegacii-rossii-v-vene-udaliv-vsex-podpischikov-665583/?utm_source= yxnews & utm_medium = desktop
              Twitter is also happy to block it if it turns out that you are a Trumpist and cite facts of violations and election fraud, or have something against BLM, feminists, or homosexuals, trances and other degroid minorities.
              Well, as I wrote, if you really want to, then there are more than enough places where you can laugh at fakes about heroic white helmets saving Syrian children from Assad's chemical weapons, about 7 years at war with Russia, Ukraine, Putin, hounding Skripal and Navalny as a newcomer, like Russian borders are aggressively approaching NATO infrastructure and so on.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 16 March 2021 16: 58
    +1
    Empty chatter must be suppressed. One thing is not clear who finds something on Twitter. Is the food good there or does the money pay? As already got these, holding the hand "pulse". Their life and all their interest on the smartphone screen ... Ugh ...
    Sorry for Dmitry Anatolyevich and Dmitry Olegovich ... How are they without ... crying
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 March 2021 17: 04
    -1
    And let's remember how about three years ago they laughed in unison, as in Dill "classmates" blocked! How Ksenechka Sobchachka made a speech about the inadmissibility of such restrictions! Now what? It is high time? I do not need it? Oh well....
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 March 2021 17: 07
      -2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      ! Now what? It is high time? I do not need it? Oh well....

      we allow the parnukha in the public domain?
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 17 March 2021 00: 41
      -5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And let's remember how about three years ago they laughed in unison, as in Dill "classmates" blocked!

      And now the "Dill" will laugh. But the question is not that, but what will be blocked next. If they can, of course, judging by the telegram, they are very crooked.
    3. K150
      K150 17 March 2021 04: 30
      -3
      Lover of the squares. Instead of talking in vain, you would find out why they are going to block and how your fellow tribesmen from the stale explained the OK bloc almost by "aggression" and propaganda of the enemy.
  • Chersky
    Chersky 16 March 2021 17: 04
    +3
    Quote: Simon Schempp

    It’s so good that I don’t live in the Russian Federation.

    But you worry about us, right? laughing
    This is not necessary. We will somehow figure out our freedom of speech ourselves.
  • unaha
    unaha 16 March 2021 17: 17
    0
    Quote: Lesovik
    Want to work in the zone of Russian jurisdiction

    Why do you think so? In my opinion, these are users (well, who needs it) who want to use this service for some purpose.
  • A.TOR
    A.TOR 16 March 2021 17: 22
    +6
    Attempts - threats - of a ban speak of the fear of losing the "battle for the souls of people."
    Lack of intelligible arguments, far-fetched "own position" plus a lot of lies.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 16 March 2021 17: 29
    -1
    They are doing it right. Here we should remember the provisions of the same YouTube.
    as soon as you publish any vidos you are offered to put a mark for which audience of viewers this video is.
    And despite the fact that the Law has been adopted and operates in the United States, YouTube creators are required to comply with it, regardless of which country they are located in. In fact, video hosting has made these rules mandatory for all users.
    So something like that with twitter. Although Twitter is not a Russian social network
  • Tagan
    Tagan 16 March 2021 18: 05
    -2
    Quote: Thrifty
    Alekseykabanets - the same as for the whole adequate country - lack of control over the supplied material! If there are a bunch of fakes, there are continuous calls for suicide, there are constant clicks on Russia, do you like it? Then, I will never understand you. ....

    This does not bother him. Absolutely. On the contrary (probably)
  • Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 16 March 2021 18: 23
    -2
    Twitter is a crowing ...
    Close definitely!
  • Hog
    Hog 16 March 2021 18: 30
    0
    Well, yes, you will block, like the Cart, along with half of the state sites, and even yourself)))
  • Ela myaushkina
    Ela myaushkina 16 March 2021 19: 54
    +2
    What do they mean by "adult industry"? Pornography? Webcam business, advertising solo masturbation and sex and all that stuff in the form of videos and videos? How long has pornography, for example, become illegal and prohibited? What insanity ?!

    And about underage sex between teenagers outside the Internet, they somehow forget that it is also necessary to cross at the legislative level. And then double standards are obtained. We will forbid one thing, but we will not pay attention to the other.
  • Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 17 March 2021 04: 44
    -1
    ***
    Twitter is dying ...
    ***
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 17 March 2021 05: 21
    -1
    nicely! that the Faberge was squeezed by parasites!
  • vadimtt
    vadimtt 17 March 2021 09: 15
    0
    Quote: cniza

    Storm in a glass of water, but they need to be brought in line

    Let's start with the Olympic Committee first. If it works out, they can also take up the Internet ...
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 17 March 2021 17: 56
    0
    On the Runet, news about the possible blocking of Twitter caused a mixed reaction. Some decided to support the RKN, while others believe that in the modern world of developed communications, such prohibitive measures can lead to negative consequences, primarily for users.

    100 percent of Daily Mail readers agree with Russia. Many have suggested closing Twitter in England.
  • Basarev
    Basarev 17 March 2021 22: 00
    -1
    I am against such decisions. The Internet should be a free zone, where the laws of any state do not apply and there are no borders. That is, the way the founders intended it.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 18 March 2021 11: 37
    -1
    in general, it is worth thinking about the legality of the laws under which they block.
    firstly, the contradiction of the constitution is the restriction of information
    and secondly, the law is written in such a way that a school ABC book can be easily blocked according to it.
    those. it is an absolutely frostbitten instrument and they had no right to accept it.
  • Peaceful SEO
    Peaceful SEO 18 March 2021 11: 47
    0
    Quote: paul3390
    Apparently - the authors of all sorts of bans on the Internet have never heard of such things as VPN and TOR .. Not - okay, you are an oak tree in a topic about which you take the audacity to compose pointers, but my - at least consult with experts before you can sprinkle the next nonsense? Or is it below the parliamentary and bureaucratic dignity? So soon, let's say, they will get to the laws of physics .. And this is how it is - absolutely in all areas! And then they are surprised - why is it all so bad in the country?

    Aa brain turn on if? How much will the user use of the total number? This is an additional haemorrhoid, and even not often free of charge. Yes, someone will tweet via vpn, but most will just forget about tweeter in a couple of months and tweeter will lose a lot of money on it. No users - no ads. It's simple.
    Threat
    With vpn, by the way, there will be an ambush with advertising too. Targeting it will not work well and those who want to promote their store to the whole world, if oh, how few
    1. yehat2
      yehat2 18 March 2021 16: 55
      -1
      workarounds will be found. Twitter will be banned, Chinese Twitter will appear.
      it is foolish to plug the river.