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The series of project 23130 medium sea tankers will continue

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The series of project 23130 medium sea tankers will continue

The series of Project 23130 medium sea tankers will continue. According to the head of the auxiliary service in an interview with Krasnaya Zvezda fleet of the Transport Support Department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Captain I Rank Sergei Epifanov, three more tankers will be built for the Navy.


According to Epifanov, in addition to the lead tanker of the Akademik Pashin project, three more serial ones will be built for the fleet, the first of which will be named Vasily Nikitin. He did not specify the timing of the start of construction and the transfer of tankers to the fleet, saying that the contract for three tankers was signed in 2020. Earlier it was reported about plans to build five more vessels of this project and create an auxiliary flotilla of six tankers in the Arctic.

The lead tanker of project 23130 "Akademik Pashin" was brought into the Northern Fleet on January 21, 2020.

Tanker of project 23130 is a single-deck vessel with a double hull in the cargo area tanksable to walk in the northern latitudes. It can transfer or receive several types of liquid cargo without mooring to another vessel or ship: diesel fuel, fuel oil, kerosene, oil, water, and also accept, store, transport and transfer dry goods (food, skipper and technical property) using the traverse system transfer of goods to the sea. It can be used to eliminate emergency oil and oil product spills.

Deadweight at maximum load is about 9000 tons. The maximum length is 130 meters, the maximum width is about 21 meters, the maximum draft is about 7 meters. The maximum speed is 16 knots. Autonomy 60 days. Crew of 24 people. The cruising range is 9000 nautical miles, and one of the main tasks is the escort of aircraft carriers.
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  1. Hog
    Hog 16 March 2021 13: 06
    +12
    And this is good)
    Support ships are always needed.
    1. Artyom Karagodin
      Artyom Karagodin 16 March 2021 14: 13
      0
      After all, we lost the Crimean War only because we could not supply our troops and deliver reinforcements as quickly as England and France did, thanks to our developed transport system. So the news is good. Only there would be more such or similar vessels!
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 16 March 2021 18: 28
        -1
        Only for the Baltic and the black, this ship is large, but not enough for the oceans. So it won't help to win the war, but it will allow you to supply the fleet in peacetime ...
        1. Artyom Karagodin
          Artyom Karagodin 16 March 2021 18: 50
          0
          Perhaps you `re right. But in any case, it's better than nothing.
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 16 March 2021 19: 01
            -2
            Quote: Artyom Karagodin
            But anyway it's better than nothing.

            In our Navy, too often this phrase is used to justify unnecessary waste. As a rule, this ends with a complete defeat, it is good if purely political and intra-cadre, and not real deaths on the battlefield.
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 16 March 2021 20: 08
          +2
          [quote = ProkletyiPirat] Only for the Baltic and Black, this ship is large, but not enough for the oceans. So it won't help to win the war, but it will allow you to supply the fleet in peacetime ... [/ quote

          But, a very small tanker Ivan Bubnov does not climb out of the sea - Black, Mediterranean. Atlantic. Tankers of this project are equipped with a device for transferring cargo at sea on the move by traverse method, which allows carrying out cargo operations in case of significant sea waves. A wide range of transported goods (fuel oil - 8250 tons, diesel fuel - 2050 tons, aviation fuel - 1000 tons, drinking water - 1000 tons, boiler water 450 tons, lubricating oil (4 grades) - 250 tons, dry cargo and food 220 tons each) allows you to classify these tankers as integrated supply ships. Displacement standard 6050 tons, full 22460 tons. Length 162,4 meters, width 21,4 meters, draft 9,0 meters. Full speed 16 knots. The crew is 93 people. Cruising range of 10000 nautical miles. Cruising endurance is 90 days. - only old! "naval" experts are divorced. Then articles are written on the subject of replacing ships with airplanes, cruisers, small rocket ships!
        3. Serg65
          Serg65 17 March 2021 07: 21
          +3
          Quote: ProkletyiPirat
          Only for the Baltic and the black, this ship is large, but not enough for the oceans.

          what I'm at a loss ..... which vessel is required for the Baltic and the Black Sea, and which for the ocean ?????
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 17 March 2021 20: 03
            0
            Quote: Serg65
            Quote: ProkletyiPirat
            Only for the Baltic and the black, this ship is large, but not enough for the oceans.

            what I'm at a loss ..... which vessel is required for the Baltic and the Black Sea, and which for the ocean ?????

            For our closed seas, the main requirement is the possibility of transporting along inland waterways, for the project 23130 the width is 21 m, and the minimum width of the locks is 14,3 m, in the case of an ocean supplier, a greater length and width are needed for a larger amount of transported goods.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 18 March 2021 08: 27
              +4
              Quote: ProkletyiPirat
              For our closed seas, the main requirement is the ability to transport by inland waterways

              belay Along the way, it has already become universal paranoia crying
              what Who is the author of this requirement?
              1. ProkletyiPirat
                ProkletyiPirat 18 March 2021 14: 25
                0
                1) I doubt that you will find him, and indeed that he is alive, for this thesis appeared long before WWII.
                2) I see no reason to look for authors, because with each new generation new authors will appear who support this thesis. After all, this thesis will be formed from scratch from the military-geographical features of the Republic of Ingushetia / USSR / RF.
                3) And what outrages you in this demand?
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 18 March 2021 14: 42
                  +4
                  Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                  And what outrages you in this demand?

                  With modern methods of warfare, this is not a requirement, this is bullshit! No need to play past wars! All waterworks will be destroyed during the first week of the attack! And this .... what for you to drag tankers along the rivers?
                  1. ProkletyiPirat
                    ProkletyiPirat 18 March 2021 18: 45
                    0
                    Quote: Serg65
                    With modern methods of warfare

                    What are these "modern" methods? Cruise missiles and UAVs? so for that there is air defense / missile defense and coastal anti-ship missiles / PLUR, and the locks are in the depths of the territory, and if we got to them then ... this is a separate topic ...
                    Quote: Serg65
                    what for you to drag tankers along the rivers?

                    Well, not so much tankers as supply vessels, but why? generally a stupid question, if there will be a war in the Baltic, when using the requirement I voiced, it will be possible to take ships to Lake Ladoga or to the Northern Fleet, and thereby save them, or a war on the World Cup will begin, N number of ships will be lost, in my case it will be possible to transfer ships from BF / KF / SF and continue the war, but in your option, only immediately surrender (in the sense of handing over water LDPs) ...
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 19 March 2021 08: 04
                      +4
                      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                      there will be a war

                      what Hmm ....
                      A plane will fly, a machine gun will be sharpened,
                      Mighty tanks rumble
                      And the battleships will go, and the infantry will go,
                      And dashing tachanka rush
                      La, anika warrior, go and play tanks?
                      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                      when using the requirement voiced by me, it will be possible to take ships to Lake Ladoga or to the Northern Fleet

                      From where, from Baltiysk or what?
                      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                      a war will start at the World Cup, N number of ships will be lost

                      So what? Will the Black Sea Fleet lose its combat effectiveness? Do you at least understand the importance of supply vessels in the Black Sea and Baltic basins? .... not ... a little differently .... what does a supply vessel in the Black Sea do? And what kind of supply vessel is this, what does it supply?
                      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                      but in your version, just give up immediately (in the sense of handing over water LDP) ...

                      Young man, in my understanding, strike the first blow with unacceptable losses for the enemy, and then mobilize people like you and launch a victorious march across Alexanderplatz!
  2. Nemo
    Nemo 16 March 2021 13: 13
    +3
    Only such ships do not need 4 pieces for all the Navy
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 16 March 2021 13: 19
      +3
      and one of the main tasks is called escort of aircraft carriers.
      How !!! This already inspires some kind of optimism. And not 4 of them, there will be more, if only six are going to be built for the Arctic. True, there is not only supplying ships, but perhaps also bases and airfields. It's not the 50s in the yard, you can't be dung in barrels.
    2. Galleon
      Galleon 16 March 2021 14: 57
      +1
      I believe these tankers are planned primarily to support Northern Fleet operations on the Northern Sea Route and to protect offshore fields and ports. The same Sabetta, for example. Look at the characteristics:
      single-deck vessel with a double hull in the area of ​​cargo tanks, capable of navigating in northern latitudes
      ... Such chips are not required for Black Sea residents or Primorye residents.
      1. shkiper83
        shkiper83 16 March 2021 17: 39
        +4
        A double body has been a must for at least 30 years, wake up.
  3. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 16 March 2021 13: 21
    +12
    and one of the main tasks is called the escort of aircraft carriers.
    With 16 nodes of the front door ?!
    1. Grossvater
      Grossvater 16 March 2021 13: 51
      0
      Well ... It could be more, but 16, in principle, fits into the framework. Leafed through, from 15 to 21 knots. 20 is the most common.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 16 March 2021 14: 02
        +3
        Quote: Grossvater
        Leafed through, from 15 to 21 knots. 20 most common

        if we talk about the aircraft carrier fleet (it is not clear why it is mentioned in the article), then you need to be equal to the Americans.
        their escort vessels develop a speed from 20 upwards.
        I didn't believe about 16, I thought it was a mistake.
        no, that's right.
        amers have 15-18 knots - this is an economic (cruising) course
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 16 March 2021 15: 01
          +4
          Quote: Flood
          amers 15-18 knots is an economic (cruising) course

          If I am not mistaken, American ships are calculated based on a cruising speed of 20 knots. They need to keep up with the aircraft carrier, which is gaining 30 knots for the release of aviation. The cruising speed of 18 knots is the Soviet Navy, this is how the ships were calculated. Although we went on a destroyer on large crossings all 14, extinguishing for the sake of economy 2 boilers out of 4.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 16 March 2021 15: 31
            +1
            I won't even argue if you are talking about destroyers
            I wrote about supply vessels - tankers, ammunition vessels
            Apparently, you were misled by my inaccurate phrase about escort ships.
            in the context of the article meant tankers
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 17 March 2021 08: 11
              +5
              Quote: Flood
              I wrote about supply vessels

              Under the Soviet Union, the first tanker for aircraft-carrying cruisers was the tanker of project 1599B ... full speed - 17 knots, economical - 16 knots.
              Subsequent practice has shown that not just a tanker is needed, but an integrated supply ship, it was the project KKS Berezina 1833 .... full speed - 21,5 knots, economical - 18 knots.
              Project 23130 is more of a supply vessel for remote bases than an aircraft carrier supply!
          2. venik
            venik 16 March 2021 20: 01
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            Quote: Galleon
            If I am not mistaken, American ships are calculated based on a cruising speed of 20 knots.

            ========
            Wrong - 20 knots for maximum speed. Economic - less! Incidentally, 20 knots has been the standard for tanker tankers in the US Navy for many years.
            1. Galleon
              Galleon 16 March 2021 20: 39
              0
              Here, for example, are the main performance characteristics of a Spruens-class destroyer.

              Main characteristics
              Displacement 7530 t (standard), 9100 t (full)
              Length 171,7 m (longest), 161,2 m (waterline)
              Width 16,82 m (largest)
              Draft 8,8 m with GAS fairing
              up to 5,8 m without it
              Speed ​​33 knots
              Cruising range 8000 miles at 17 knots, 6000 miles at 20 knots, 3300 miles at 30 knots
              Swimming autonomy 45 days in terms of food reserves

              Am I wrong or not? Maybe you should check yourself sometimes?
              1. venik
                venik 16 March 2021 22: 10
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                And where does "Spruyens", "Kiddy" or "Burke" have to do with it? We are talking about tankers, tankers! They have had a standard for many years now: the full speed of the ships of the AO and AOR class is 20 knots!
    2. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 16 March 2021 14: 38
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      With 16 nodes of the front door ?!
      yes, - "our Navy has such military tricks" .... winked
      We have and anti-submarine mass corvettes have a speed of 26-27 knots, and do not have PLUR in their armament (!).... why all this in PLO / OVR ... ? !!
      Probably the naval USA and NATO - not that they are "not a little puzzled", they should be - PROTECTED (!) such disrespect to yourself !!! lol Go understand what to expect from them ?! request
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 16 March 2021 15: 36
        0
        Quote: Vl Nemchinov
        We also have mass anti-submarine corvettes

        in my opinion, among the Russian corvettes there are no specialized anti-submarine
        there are probably universal ones with anti-submarine functions
        1. Nemchinov Vl
          Nemchinov Vl 16 March 2021 17: 35
          0
          Quote: Flood
          to my mind, among Russian corvettes no specialized anti-submarine

          among Russian corvettes (both 20380 and 20385) are positioned as multi-purpose, which, by definition, should primarily mean the ability to carry out PLO / OVR (as in other fleets of the world !!!), but here it is - we have all of them and puzzled !!!. recourse well, at least - "puzzling a potential adversary with his self-confidence" ... winked
          Quote: Flood
          there is probably universal with anti-submarine functions
          Prompt which ones (Projects) you mean ? !!
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 16 March 2021 20: 17
            0
            Quote: Vl Nemchinov
            tell me which (projects) do you mean? !!

            so you wrote about them
            just called the more accurate term "multipurpose"
            the truth is, it is not clear why they came up with a story on the go, that they should be correctly called anti-submarine
    3. Serg65
      Serg65 17 March 2021 07: 19
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      With 16 nodes of the front door ?!

      Are aircraft carriers constantly prancing at 30 nodes?
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 17 March 2021 08: 03
        0
        Quote: Serg65
        Are aircraft carriers constantly prancing at 30 nodes?

        Even if the economic speed AB is 16 knots, then for this tanker 16 is FULL speed, with the corresponding consumption of both fuel and motor resources (which is perhaps more important).
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 17 March 2021 08: 17
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          then for this tanker 16 is FULL

          Vladimir, I very much suspect that this is ...
          one of the main tasks is called the escort of aircraft carriers.

          more for a catchphrase and giving significance to this note .... and nothing more! Etc. 23130 is a supplier to remote bases and anchored ships.
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 16 March 2021 14: 00
    -1
    and one of the main tasks is called the escort of aircraft carriers.

    This infa instills optimism. Maybe the bookmark of an aircraft carrier is on the way?
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 16 March 2021 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      and one of the main tasks is called the escort of aircraft carriers.

      This infa instills optimism. Maybe the bookmark of an aircraft carrier is on the way?

      Rather, under the landing ships under construction in Kerch .. But! The Defense Department's paths are inscrutable!
  5. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 16 March 2021 14: 15
    0
    Poleznoe sudno.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 16 March 2021 15: 42
      -2
      Quote: CastroRuiz
      Poleznoe sudno.

      Sorry, no offense, but in this case, this is not a "ship". The ship is either in civilian life or in a hospital ward, and in the Navy, it is a support ship.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 18 March 2021 08: 31
        +5
        Quote: Vladimir61
        this is a support ship.

        what You might be surprised, but in this case, this is a ... supply vessel! bully
  6. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 16 March 2021 14: 48
    0
    And here are the aircraft carriers?
    Who came up with them?
    No speed.
    The range is not very good.
    And the question about ice resistance, how does it correspond to the Arctic, or is it also so-so?
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 16 March 2021 15: 06
      +2
      Such a characteristic as the ice-breaking capacity of a ship is little voiced, and it is unlikely that you will find it on the Internet - it is spelled out in the documentation for the ship or vessel. If one day this document from the factory was not read to us in the wardroom, I would not have known that the ice breaking capacity of 956 destroyers was 20 cm.
  7. Tests
    Tests 16 March 2021 14: 50
    0
    Dear VO visitors! Does anyone know something about the fate of two medium tankers of pr. 23131, which had already formed hulls at the Zaliv plant in Kerch?
    Mr. Captain 1st Rank, it seems, did not say where these three tankers of pr. 23130, for which the contract was signed in 2020, will be built or I missed something ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 March 2021 16: 04
      +12
      Not the bodies are formed, but the embedded sections. And they have already been cut, leaving the boards. And there was more hasty laying ahead of the locomotive. And the Navy outplayed everything.

      It is impossible to implement project 23130-131 in the current political realities. There are imports from diesels to cranes and feeders. Project 2313X Rus has just been done.

      The second ship is very damp and its mother is on what the light is. The designer made a tanker for the first time and collected everything he could. Well, the manufacturer was also not eager to do a labor feat. As a result, a bunch of jambs - like filling fittings and outlets even in normal sea weather. Fucking installation of everything. Constructive lack of protection for electrical equipment and shields, etc.


      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 16 March 2021 19: 41
        +2
        I thought we only had a mess in construction, but no ... all the rules, a mess everywhere! wassat
      2. Motorist
        Motorist 16 March 2021 23: 10
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        Constructive lack of protection for electrical equipment and shields, etc.

        There was protection - in the bottom photo there was a trace around the solenoid valves. And even cables in hydraulic lines (at least - it looks like that). And the fact that someone removed the protection but did not put it back is another question! The quality of the crew can be seen from the painting of the hydraulic hose (marked with HansaFlex). By the way, does HansaFlex make hoses for the Navy?

        PS Wow! The stripe was handed - I accept congratulations ... soldier
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 March 2021 14: 51
    +1
    It is necessary to create larger ones for the future, otherwise 9 thousand tons for the squadron will be very, very little. We need to create today, will we have time tomorrow, and most importantly, where to build? ??
  9. Tests
    Tests 16 March 2021 15: 17
    +4
    Jacket in stock (Konstantin), dear, this vessel has: "Arc4 Mark of the category of ice reinforcement of the vessel (independent navigation in thin one-year arctic ice up to 0,6 m thick in winter-spring navigation and up to 0,8 m in summer-autumn navigation . Swimming in a channel behind an icebreaker in one-year Arctic ice up to 0,7 m thick in winter-spring navigation and up to 1,0 m in summer-autumn navigation). "
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 March 2021 15: 57
    0
    The number of ships is increasing, therefore tankers are needed. Everything is absolutely logical. good
    1. shkiper83
      shkiper83 16 March 2021 17: 42
      +5
      Are you seriously? Is it increasing? But I see how the second building 956 EM was cut in Kozmino in a year
  11. Tests
    Tests 16 March 2021 16: 29
    +3
    donavi49, dear, thanks for the answer! I read about the formation of corps in our media a few years ago, and our journalists are often, you know, the most journalistic journalists .... Special thanks for the photo. Boatswains, it seems, need red lead and paints on this ship in tons and kilometers, and electricians, judging by the photos, are the busiest, hmm ...
  12. Brturin
    Brturin 16 March 2021 21: 54
    0
    Quote: Hog
    Support ships are always needed.

    Head of the Auxiliary Fleet of the Transport Support Department of the Russian Ministry of Defense Kaperang S. Epifanov ... demagnetization, sea tug,
    passenger boat, oil skimmer. Now 44 support vessels are also being built within the framework of 18 government contracts concluded with shipbuilding enterprises.
    https://neftegaz.ru/news/Suda-i-sudostroenie/671034-v-rossii-planiruyut-postroit-neftemusorosborshchik-dlya-flota/
    But for some reason I want big and bigger ones ...