The Ukrainian Navy received a prototype of the Neptune missile system

The naval forces of Ukraine received prototypes of the coastal mobile missile system with anti-ship missiles RK-360MTS "Neptune". This is reported by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

The solemn ceremony of the transfer of prototypes was held on March 15 in the presence of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine. The transferred kit included: the RCP-360 command post, one USPU-360 self-propelled launcher, the TZM-360 transport and loading vehicle and the TM-360 transport vehicle, which were used for testing in 2019-2020. Models of missiles were also handed over.

Thanks to the joint work of the defense department and domestic enterprises, it was possible to manufacture weapons of a new generation, which will increase the deterrent potential and increase Ukraine's influence at sea. Our homework is to close the Neptune, missile and patrol boats, corvettes into a single defense system that can repel the enemy from the sea

- said the Minister of Defense of Ukraine.

The transferred samples entered service with the 65th separate coastal missile division of the Ukrainian Navy. It is stated that the combat training complex will allow starting the practical training of the division's crews.

According to the Ukrainian media, the division will receive the full-time equipment in 2022, its production has already begun. Until 2025, the Ukrainian Navy should receive three divisions of coastal complexes with the Neptune anti-ship missile system.

Comments

[mojohed2012]

What. We'll have to monitor its location and, if it is used towards the Russian Federation, to destroy it immediately. Together with the place of decision making

[Sergey Obraztsov]

Yes, whatever one may say, but there is a peremog in Ukraine. Of course, you can say for a long time that "they do not work" or that they will be quickly done away with. But it is a fact that in a year or two they will be able to inflict real damage on the Black Sea Fleet. There will be no problems in terms of target designation to hit the ships' parking areas. And there all the hope is for air defense.

[Rubi0]

And notice all these threats are created by the industrial complex of the southeast, in addition to yesterday's Kharkov armored personnel carriers and Turkish-Zaporozhye helicopters, in a year or two more corvettes from Nikolaev will also swim.

[venik]

Quote: Rubi0

in a year or so another corvettes from Nikolaev will also come up.

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1. Not after "a year or two", but after 5 years ....
2. Not from Nikolaev, but from Istanbul ....
3. If anything "floats" at all ...
I explain the point of view:
and. It is unlikely that they will be able to build anything at the Okean plant in Nikolaev, since the plant has long been "on its side", declared itself bankrupt and has not been building ANYTHING for a long time - only doing minor repairs. For resuscitation, huge funds are needed (and they are not and are not expected)! In addition, it is generally problematic to build anything large in Ukraine: everything will be stolen!
b. The construction of corvettes of the "Ada" type at the Istanbul shipyard takes at least 5 years (from laying down to commissioning).
in. Construction is generally questionable: sanctions have been imposed against the Turkish defense industry (and on the corvettes there are a lot of units of instruments and weapons mechanisms from the States, Canada and the EU) ...
d. The Ukrainian leadership has a desire to build 4 corvettes .... But money is a big, big problem! Will they scrape together at least half a billion dollars for 2 corvettes from Turkey?
So, when Ukraine will receive the coveted corvettes and whether it will receive them at all - this is still a big, big question!
PS Although it is certainly impossible to ignore the efforts of the "Square" to strengthen its fleet and BO! But it is too early to panic!

[Prisoner]

Just don't rush. This thing may well "smooth" the owners themselves, follow in the footsteps of the "hammer", so to speak.

[Maikcg]

Destroy with inflatable bombs.

which were used for testing in 2019-2020. Were also transferred layouts missiles

There was a similar story around WWII about a false airfield and a wooden bomb.

[venik]

Quote: mojohed2012

What. We'll have to monitor its location and, if it is used towards the Russian Federation, to destroy it immediately. Together with the place of decision making

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Well, the "decision-making place" there looks like ... che-che - seat!

[yfast]

Another great achievement for Square? Suspiciously similar to the Soviet.

[Flooding]

Quote: yfast

Another great achievement for Square? Suspiciously similar to the Soviet.

it is not so important, even in the Moroccan
it is important that this complex can pose a real danger to the ships of the Black Sea Fleet

[Prisoner]

Uh-huh. It only gets worse.

[gurzuf]

Worse than a hammer? May God eclipse his achievements.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: yfast

Another great achievement for Square? Suspiciously similar to the Soviet.

Svidomye comments:

ᓚᘏᗢ ᓚᘏᗢ country by ip - od March 15, 16:01 +20
Tsei pathos is needed, abi pigdogs did not give you vermishel for vuha about them, I will not help Ukraine. Do you not know, for example, how did the Pivdenny Machine Building Plant launch not so long ago with the Americans a rocket with the Ukrainian Russhim near space? Otozh-bo!

[Eldorado]

Cool with them. Missiles are being handed over to the troops without any normal tests or firing!

[XXXIII]

Quote: El Dorado

Cool with them. Missiles are being handed over to the troops without any normal tests or firing!

Yes, what is it, they drove the old around the field, and then passed off as a new crop.))

[Egoza]

Quote: El Dorado

Cool with them. Missiles are being handed over to the troops without any normal tests or firing!

"Calm! Only calm" - as Carlson used to say. I doubt that in 2022 there will be someone to receive this equipment.

[kristofer]

missile models

[Bshkaus]

Cool with them. Missiles are being handed over to the troops without any normal tests or firing!

State tests have long been carried out, and with impressive success. Someone more attentively, has long been quiet and puts the minuses under the hacky comments, who are bolder, cautiously says that this is a real threat to the Russian Navy. Well, who laughed at the creation of Neptune
And he chuckled at the progress of the tests, then I think that they will continue to giggle until the "model" arrives on the head, either Neptune or Vilhi ((((

[rocket757]

Got experienced and sho now?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: rocket757

Got experienced and sho now?

They will study. A year is the minimum for the preparation of a l / s division.

[rocket757]

And they have a mate part, for the division, will it?
However, this is their business ... reasoning about nothing.

[Prisoner]

Experiments will be staged. I hope that the possibility of launching is blocked by reinforced concrete, for the sake of the safety of the calculation.

[rocket757]

So they did not do it in "Forge on Rybalsky", BUT, .... the story of the HAMMER and shells for howitzers, other miscellaneous, should make them think about a lot ... if there is something to think about, of course.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

Got experienced and sho now?

Well yes, plus this:

Models of missiles were also handed over.

[rocket757]

It takes a long time to get the job done, done and ... not finished.
May be so.

[cniza]

Will train ...

[rocket757]

Flag them, between the "rolls" .... let them train.

[Cat]

This is a new word in R&D. The authors of GOSTs series B.15 will come to them at night and laugh infernally.

[dvina71]

Do they have a block of 4 tubes? / how big is the rocket in them? Russian ... and already far from new BRK BAL carries 8 ... with the same performance characteristics ..

Well, secondly .. such complexes .. without the analogue Russian Monolith .. drastically lose in efficiency ..
Now the corvettes are already carrying the kr exceeding the range of the Ukrainian product ..

[XXXIII]

Quote: dvina71

Do they have a block of 4 tubes? / how big is the rocket in them? Russian ... and already far from new BRK BAL carries 8 ... with the same performance characteristics ..
Well, secondly .. such complexes .. without the analogue Russian Monolith .. drastically lose in efficiency ..
Now the corvettes are already carrying the kr exceeding the range of the Ukrainian product ..

Do not look for performance characteristics of sound thoughts there. There it is generally not known what, so everything is classified that even the personnel do not know what it is.)) Two launches were only single, the last missiles were available, the rest had already been sawn and used. Let's look at the exercises, will it shoot or how the hammer will remove itself.))

[donavi49]

Corvettes carry exactly the same missile launchers as frigates, and even the heavy nuclear missile cruiser Nakhimov. Only such a corvette is 1 and it is not on the Black Sea Fleet.

The Black Sea Fleet has 1-2 frigates (1 is constantly on duty in the SPM) 11356 with UKSK8 and 24 Calms. Moscow - which, without modernization, may well miss an inconspicuous low-flying one 3-5 meters above the water level. Inquisitive and Ladny - which are not the fact that they will fight off even the P-15M. Especially in the current state - the SPM patrolmen on the remnants of the resource before retirement. Well, RTOs with calibers. Which again with Duet and Flexible on MANPADS have ghostly chances to fight back themselves.

[dvina71]

Quote: donavi49

The Black Sea Fleet has 1-2 frigates

According to the western classification, Orekhovo-Zuevo is also a corvette.
There are 3 frigates .. how can you even have 1-2 ..? they are flickering or what .. the principle of uncertainty?
In addition, 6 square meters ... you can still use Mosquito carriers .. 7 with a total salvo of about 40 missiles
I'm not even talking about ground-based missile systems ... in general, even the 1st division won't do any weather, even 20 ...
The question is .. who will allow and where to get money for a complex multi-level line of defense ..?

[donavi49]

1-2 in place. I wrote - 1 is constantly on duty in the SPM on a rotational basis. It will not help in any way in case of an exacerbation. And one more can be on the VTG or on the NBMB.

even the 1st division won't do any weather. Even 20 ..

Advancement, a salvo at the Central Command from the NATO side in neutral waters (which thread is Avax) in the western Black Sea. They bang around the base or compound and spread out at a run. And they will be in time - in 20-30 minutes, even if there are launch points, they will dump by 30-40 km.

[dvina71]

Quote: donavi49

1-2 in place

With regard to the DBK ... even in Syria, they are in place ... I also forgot the flotilla in the Caspian ... you can also add them ...

[donavi49]

Well, you can also add strategic nuclear forces .

From Syria, they will not help in any way in repelling a surprise strike and suppressing the main targets in hot pursuit. When they return in 2-3 days, it is likely that Macron will pacify everyone.

[dvina71]

Quote: donavi49

From Syria, they will not help in any way in repelling a surprise strike

Sudden blow than? DBK division?
Are you continuing the argument now for the sake of the process? masochism ...
To summarize, neither 10 nor 20 divisions of the Ukrainian DBK will repel an attack by a fleet similar to the Black Sea Fleet ..
1. And most importantly .. there is no multilevel line of defense for this. Including air defense / missile defense, reconnaissance, detection and control center with centralized control ..

[Maikcg]

He is a whisper not for defense in general, but for the attack of the Black Sea Fleet at the pier at 8 am on January 1.

[Object.F7]

At VO, every expert knows that "the x-35 is an obsolete Soviet missile." But it is worth repainting the star, and immediately this advanced weapon is not taken by either 30mm metal cutters, or by the shells from karakurt, nothing at all. And even Atlas with 11 thousand displacement is mortally afraid to miss a missile designed for targets up to 5 thousand tons. This is what life-giving decommunization does :)

[alexmach]

Do they have a block of 4 tubes? / what kind of rocket they have

The most normal thing. Plus or minus like Uranus, like they said that a little more authentic.

Russian ... and already far from new BRK BAL carries 8 ... with the same performance characteristics ..

Yeah .. and at the same time it stands on an expensive bulky MAZ chassis and depends on the whim of "brothers today and partners tomorrow." They also put it on the truck that was in serial production.

[dvina71]

Quote: alexmach

bulky MAZ chassis

Bulky?
And second ... what is national in Kraz? Besides the name .. Motor? Gearbox? Axles? Brakes?
3.Serial? They seriously discussed the installation of tubes on the Tatara 815 ..

[alexmach]

Bulky?

Yes, I looked, the KRAZ that they used was also 8x8 and only a quarter lighter than the MAZ chassis.

And second ... what is national in Kraz?

And where did you read about the national in KRAZ? I do not see any sense in discussing the origin of technology. They put on the chassis that is available to them. Indeed, they write on Wikipedia that they plan to bet on the Tatra.

[dvina71]

Quote: alexmach

And where did you read about the national in KRAZ?

I am looking for logic in your thoughts .. You see Maz "depends on the whim of" brothers today and partners tomorrow "", but KRaz .. collected from the world on a string does not depend .... I did not find it.

[alexmach]

, but KRaz ... collected from the world along a string does not depend ... I did not find

Do you think they have such a task to be independent from anyone in the world? Why would they need this? As I said, they put it on the base that they can produce.

[Stepan S]

They even have a problem with making a "pipe" for a rocket. They use the existing equipment supplied by Russia in the distant years for the production of S-300 missiles. And the rocket itself is of "normal" size.

[Irek]

To present an old Soviet rocket is not to open a tube at the university.

[cniza]

Models of missiles were also handed over.

I understand everything, I am not mocking, but why?

[Potomac]

For training l / s. Works of the technical specification of the machine. Study of the rocket itself by calculation.

[alexmach]

I understand everything, I am not mocking, but why?

It is stated that the combat training complex will allow starting the practical training of the division's calculations

Prepare on mock-ups

According to Ukrainian media, the division will receive full-time equipment in 2022

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Strange .... "new-old" missile of the last century causes such fears among the entire Black Sea Fleet?!?! And if they also learn to shoot a mortar without explosions, then everyone ... sailed ?! Strange .....

[Scorpion85]

Here in the comments they write that they have armed themselves with an "old Soviet" missile. Well, if you think so gentlemen, then the old Soviet X-35 missile is installed on the coastal missile systems "Bal", and? You have to be objective, since we have come here to discuss such a serious topic. The Neptune rocket has a number of systemic differences from the X-35. What the American Harpoon, the Russian X-35, and the Ukrainian Neptune have in common is that they all have exactly the same design. Why is it that the appearance of all missiles is the same? Because it is the most optimal one for solving this problem. That is, the starting engine should accelerate, push the rocket out of the container, then undock, at this time the main engine should start working, it is easiest to control such a rocket according to the "airplane" scheme (those who are familiar with aerodynamics will understand), that is, the wing is in front, behind the rudders , but all these missiles are certainly different, different body parts and homing heads, engines, altimeters, protection against electronic warfare, etc. Therefore, more than one enterprise worked on the Ukrainian missile, a set of drawings was developed by the Ukrainian team if we are talking about Neptune, and count Soviet missile is pretty stupid, no, well, if it calms you down, please.

[Object.F7]

I'm sure no one underestimates Neptune. In general, it is foolish to underestimate any missile. Here it is more likely trolling those overshoes whose x-35 was an outdated nonsense yesterday, and today the same people suddenly present an analogue with something like a mega-progressive. If you tear off the heads of budget sawers and embezzlers, really saturate the coastal troops with this product, then Neptune will certainly become a serious threat to the Black Sea Fleet.

[GAndr]

Jokes as a joke, but these can also bullet ...

[Old26]

Quote: MaikCG

Destroy with inflatable bombs.

which were used for testing in 2019-2020. Were also transferred layouts missiles

There was a similar story around WWII about a false airfield and a wooden bomb.

Models are always transferred to the troops. The same "Caliber" is transferred to the troops and to the training-bench, and training-operating, and overall-weight models, and in the control configuration with an inert warhead - all of them are transferred. So there is nothing unusual about the fact that the mock-ups of the missiles are being transmitted.

Quote: yfast

Another great achievement for Square? Suspiciously similar to the Soviet.

Yes, even for Zimbabwean, what's the difference. A couple of years ago, they only said that they would not have enough chau even to transfer a prototype to the troops, but what will some commentators say now? They passed ... They will transfer both the division and all three in time. And we, when it comes to our neighbors, just shrug it off and think that they cannot do anything. Good or bad, but they do ...

Quote: El Dorado

Cool with them. Missiles are being handed over to the troops without any normal tests or firing!

In fact, EMNIP tested this complex for a couple of years.

Quote: kristofer

missile models

See above for layouts

Quote: rocket757

Got experienced and sho now?

Yes, the same as everyone else. They will begin to study at this complex, removing "childhood diseases"

Quote: dvina71

Well, secondly .. such complexes .. without the analogue Russian Monolith .. drastically lose in efficiency ..
Now the corvettes are already carrying the kr exceeding the range of the Ukrainian product ..

Neptune does not have a separate radar, like our Monolith, but the command post can use external ground and air-based radars that are not part of the complex

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Old26

Neptune does not have a separate radar, like our Monolith, but the command post can use external ground and air-based radars that are not part of the complex

For these purposes, they purchased Bayraktars. A radar is installed on the TB-2S. They recently tested them for the Turkish Navy.
https://www.meteksan.com/en/products/radar-systems/milsar-uav-sar-gmti-radar

[Scorpion85]

Quote: Old26

Quote: MaikCG

Destroy with inflatable bombs.

which were used for testing in 2019-2020. Were also transferred layouts missiles

There was a similar story around WWII about a false airfield and a wooden bomb.

Models are always transferred to the troops. The same "Caliber" is transferred to the troops and to the training-bench, and training-operating, and overall-weight models, and in the control configuration with an inert warhead - all of them are transferred. So there is nothing unusual about the fact that the mock-ups of the missiles are being transmitted.

Quote: yfast

Another great achievement for Square? Suspiciously similar to the Soviet.

Yes, even for Zimbabwean, what's the difference. A couple of years ago, they only said that they would not have enough chau even to transfer a prototype to the troops, but what will some commentators say now? They passed ... They will transfer both the division and all three in time. And we, when it comes to our neighbors, just shrug it off and think that they cannot do anything. Good or bad, but they do ...

Quote: El Dorado

Cool with them. Missiles are being handed over to the troops without any normal tests or firing!

In fact, EMNIP tested this complex for a couple of years.

Quote: kristofer

missile models

See above for layouts

Quote: rocket757

Got experienced and sho now?

Yes, the same as everyone else. They will begin to study at this complex, removing "childhood diseases"

Quote: dvina71

Well, secondly .. such complexes .. without the analogue Russian Monolith .. drastically lose in efficiency ..
Now the corvettes are already carrying the kr exceeding the range of the Ukrainian product ..

Neptune does not have a separate radar, like our Monolith, but the command post can use external ground and air-based radars that are not part of the complex

Separate radar. Mineral-U: new radar for reconnaissance and target designation, will strengthen the potential of the coastal anti-ship complex "Neptune". Developed by the Ukrainian State Enterprise Research Institute of RS "Kvant-Radiolokatsiya". This year it is planned to send several finished samples to the Ukrainian military. Mineral-U is a multifunctional radar complex created using new approaches and a new element base. The target detection radius of the Mineral-U radar should be 500-600 kilometers. He is also capable of giving target designation to means of destruction. The new technique uses active and passive channels. Mineral-U is located on an automobile platform. All that is known so far.

[Old26]

Quote: Scorpion85

Separate radar. Mineral-U: new radar for reconnaissance and target designation, will strengthen the potential of the coastal anti-ship complex "Neptune". Developed by the Ukrainian State Enterprise Research Institute of RS "Kvant-Radiolokatsiya". This year it is planned to send several finished samples to the Ukrainian military. Mineral-U is a multifunctional radar complex created using new approaches and a new element base. The target detection radius of the Mineral-U radar should be 500-600 kilometers. He is also capable of giving target designation to means of destruction. The new technique uses active and passive channels. Mineral-U is located on an automobile platform. All that is known so far.

Oleg, thank you. Somehow "Mineral-U" slipped past my attention

[cat Rusich]

Laughter - laughter, and the monkey may have a "grenade" in its paw ...

[dgonni]

Three years ago, what did you write? 404 will fail in implementation and production?
In a year it will be massive. However, like Alder and OTRA!
A large strategic tag got a motivated enemy on the border that could and can be used up to Moscow
Handsome man!

[Stepan S]

So far, the output is one installation, one single one. For all these years. And how it will be with the financing of the production of the promised divisions, time will tell. Alder and other birches are also available in limited quantities. Literally piece.

[dgonni]

Can you read?
3 years ago there was a vine for the impossibility of development and implementation!
At the moment, regardless of the resistance of the clown. It goes to the troops!
Continue to continue?