American response to Voronezh

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Photo: US Missile Defense Agency

Several publications immediately reported with a great deal of sensationalism about the beginning of the final stage of construction of the American Long Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR) at the Clear Air Force base in Alaska.

I confess it surprised me.



Given that the Americans have been building this radar since 2018 and should have finished it back in 2020.

And the way this radar was described, to put it mildly, amazed.

This radar has been operating in test mode since the middle of last year. This means that this year it will simply be put on alert.

The LRDR is a long-range radar that will provide accurate metric data to improve ballistic defense discrimination and replace existing sensors in a missile defense system (BMDS). Simply put, the Americans will now see our ballistic missile launches from the first seconds of flight.

Previously, they had this opportunity only in the European part of Russia. Now Siberia and the Far East are under American supervision.

True, I was pleasantly surprised by the American constancy.

When asked what kind of missiles the United States is afraid of, the Americans answered without thinking too much about the logic, according to the standard scheme. The radar will track Iranian and North Korean missiles aimed at the United States.

With geography, the Yankees have always been bad. Ever since the days when the same radars and launchers were installed in western Europe. Then Iran was also called the main enemy. And we could not convince, taking into account the geography of our "partners". Although any student familiar with the geographical map of the world understands the stupidity of this statement.

The step is logical and predictable


Control over the actions of the adversary, as well as over the actions of the allies, is necessary, first of all, to ensure the security of one's own territory. We are not surprised that our army is installing such radars along the perimeter of its own borders.

The power of the American radar is roughly the same as our Voronezh radar.

Let me remind you that control over the "partners" launchers on both sides is multi-level. In particular, the currently existing constellations of satellites are constantly monitoring launchers and the movement of mobile launchers across enemy territory. It is not in vain that the military has mastered so well. But satellites cannot provide 100% monitoring.

The construction by the Americans of their own long-range radar station in Alaska is a completely logical and understandable step by the Pentagon. The fact is that the region of Alaska and our Far East was out of the control zone for a long time. We were the first to solve the problem.

Look at the geography of our long-range radars. Leningrad Oblast, Kaliningrad Oblast, Krasnodar Krai, Orenburg Oblast, Altai Krai, Krasnoyarsk Krai, Irkutsk Oblast ... It is quite logical that two more stations are now being completed - in the Komi Republic and in the Murmansk Oblast.

The question arises about the location of the American radar station.

Why Alaska?

After all, it would be possible to locate the radar a little further south, on the territory of Canada, for example. Construction costs would be much lower. Alas, it doesn't work that way.

First, the new station provides control over launches in the most vulnerable direction at the moment. Unlike Russia, the Americans cannot yet create any serious military grouping in this region.

In Alaska, there are now mainly aviation, and even then created quite recently, parts and missile launchers. The ground forces are represented by only two brigades. This is despite the fact that the "partners" (in this case, we) have the opportunity to land a rather serious landing on the territory of Alaska. Russia has units prepared for operations in the Arctic, and no one is going to expand the Bering Strait.

Secondly, the Northern Sea Route.

The construction of nuclear-powered icebreakers in Russia is proceeding at such a pace that the West froze in horror. Those beautiful, huge ships that are leaving the stocks of Russian factories today may well become carriers of ballistic missiles. And given the emergence of new types of weapons, they become, in general, a big bogeyman for the United States and Western Europe.

Nobody canceled geopolitics


Neither we nor the Americans are going to attack the “partner”. The understanding of the utopian nature of such a project exists in the headquarters of all the leading armies of the world. Yes, small, regional clashes in some third countries are possible, but a global conflict leads to global destruction. But both countries are going at huge costs by deploying army units in the Arctic zone.

In particular, in the near future, the Pentagon plans to transfer a huge air group of 150 most modern F-35 and F-22 Raptor aircraft to Alaska. Moscow is strengthening the army fist on the islands of the Arctic Ocean and deploying weapons adapted for the North there.

It is trite, but all this is just a fight for the Arctic. The struggle for the riches of the Arctic zone. Modern technologies are already making it possible to extract minerals there. It is not for nothing that leading mining companies are actively working in this region. The huge money invested in the Arctic today pays off pretty quickly.

And the short northern Arctic route from Asia to Europe is quite promising. Accordingly, the expansion of his work on the pilotage of commercial ships will entail more and more claims against Russia, as the owner of this route. Already today, voices are heard from across the ocean about the injustice of geography.

"This route must belong to all countries!"

At the same time, no one remembers other such routes that have belonged to specific countries or even companies for centuries.

Short conclusions


Confrontation, including military confrontation, is a normal state of states in the modern world.

Global competition, technological capabilities, as well as the virtual absence of geographical restrictions for the work of international corporations have led to increased competition for

"Free territories".

For those spaces that earlier, due to their remoteness or inaccessibility, were of little interest to world business.

We have heard many times about

"Injustice of belonging to Siberia"

one state.

Now we hear talk about the injustice of the ownership of the oil-bearing regions of the Middle East. And the most disgusting thing is that these conversations are often accompanied by the landing and bombing of those who disagree with the new redivision of the world.

New American radar?

And what terrible happened?

Our missilemen and pilots received additional targets. Our means of suppression have received a new task. Moreover, given the timing of the construction of the station, therefore, the timing of the solution of these tasks was sufficient for the timely response of our General Staff.

Judging by the calmness with which the Pentagon's message was received by our military, measures have already been taken.

Yes, this is the usual, routine work, the everyday performance of their duties by the military of many countries. You must always be ready to respond to aggression. And for this it is necessary not to miss this very first "disarming" strike. Americans know this too.

And there is no need to treat their generals with irony.
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  1. -1
    17 March 2021 04: 35
    Our means of suppression have received a new task.
    If only there were enough Calibers and other Yars and Topol-M
    1. +1
      17 March 2021 05: 23
      If we defend our right to our natural resources in the Arctic, then the rest will be profitable.
      The fight with the cowboys from the USA is serious ... so let's get ready.
      1. +18
        17 March 2021 05: 56
        The construction of nuclear-powered icebreakers in Russia is proceeding at such a pace that the West froze in horror. Those beautiful, huge ships that are leaving the stocks of Russian factories today may well become carriers of ballistic missiles.
        Seriously ? lol
        1. +13
          17 March 2021 06: 19
          And then Ostap suffered.
          1. +2
            17 March 2021 06: 21
            and where did you get carried away?
        2. +12
          17 March 2021 06: 58
          Quote: Aerodrome
          Seriously ?

          I was also surprised. It turns out that we don't know a lot about ourselves yet. laughing
      2. +2
        17 March 2021 07: 26
        Confrontation, including military confrontation, is a normal state of states in the modern world.

        This radar is not a confrontation, but an even greater increase in threats, because will be able to identify false / real warheads.
        1. -5
          17 March 2021 09: 59
          Quote: dorz
          .to. will be able to identify false / real warheads.
          They think so. Dummy warheads are deliberately made indistinguishable from real ones. The only known way to distinguish (well, except for close inspection) is to arrange a nuclear explosion and try to detect which of the warheads emitted secondary neutrons.
          1. -1
            17 March 2021 12: 01
            Distinguished by using a chemical spectrum analyzer,
            which is installed in the seeker "space killer",
            apparatus weighing 20-30 kg, which must ram
            a warhead on a collision course.
            A real warhead is a cone filled with materials for
            hydrogen fusion, the dummy warhead is an empty cone of the same size.
            The dummy cones are stacked on top of each other for compactness. In flight
            get off the bus one at a time.
            1. +1
              17 March 2021 13: 49
              In general, God knows how many years ago they were able to distinguish them (essno with some degree of probability). As far as I remember from the speed of entry into the atmosphere, the dummy slowed down more, like. The article here was about this, about the ancient US missile defense system, which has already died in Bose ..
            2. 0
              17 March 2021 18: 32
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Distinguished by using a chemical spectrum analyzer,
              which is installed in the seeker "space killer"
              Chem. the analyzer will be able to show something only when the warhead is already moving in the atmosphere, it's too late. Or will you shove a powerful laser into a 30 kg to evaporate the surface material of the warhead for analysis?
              Quote: voyaka uh
              A real warhead is a cone filled with materials for
              hydrogen fusion
              How do you get to them through the warhead body? Here are neutrons from the epicenter - maybe, by the presence of a reaction of plutonium in the warhead to them, one can try to select a target. Other options are unknown to me.
              Quote: voyaka uh
              empty cone of the same size
              There are also more complex options that provide even an identical rate of descent in the atmosphere (at the first stage, of course).
              1. +1
                17 March 2021 18: 40
                ABM in Alaska is GBI missiles. The interception is planned in space in the middle section of the trajectory. There is no atmosphere.
                1. 0
                  18 March 2021 23: 58
                  We are waiting for the emergence of a ground-based MRBM in the Far East with guided warheads similar to the Vanguard and missiles that develop speeds from zero to Mach 20 in a few seconds for a high-speed launch of warheads into orbit.
                  1. 0
                    19 March 2021 00: 51
                    In order for the MRBM to accelerate to 20 MAX, it must be launched high into space,
                    and then sharply deploy, otherwise it will fly too far (fly over the target).
                    This is how Pershing-2 was made.
                    The trajectory is not optimal. Besides, to hit the target,
                    at the terminal site all the same it is necessary to strongly artificially slow down.
                    Conventional IRBMs accelerate to somewhere around 15 MAX.
                    And they will now begin to be stamped by all and sundry, and not just the Chinese.
                    1. 0
                      21 March 2021 21: 14
                      And what will you do with the MRBM launched from the icebreaker SMP, and carrying a dozen 100-kTN maneuvering heads for autonomous guidance
      3. +2
        17 March 2021 09: 59
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        If we defend our right to our natural resources in the Arctic, then the rest will be profitable.
        The fight with the cowboys from the USA is serious ... so let's get ready.

        In my opinion, all countries have the exclusive right to production in their territorial waters. Anything further than 200 mile zone is another matter.
  2. +9
    17 March 2021 07: 27
    Just from the point of view of geography, the radar station from North Korea's missiles really should be located in Alaska.

    1. +5
      17 March 2021 10: 01
      Quote: military_cat
      Just from the point of view of geography, the radar station from North Korea's missiles really should be located in Alaska.


      In addition, the area is pretty deserted.It is not in California to build
    2. +4
      17 March 2021 11: 00
      the same radars and launchers were installed in western Europe. Then Iran was also called the main enemy. And we could not convince, taking into account the geography of our "partners". Although any student familiar with the geographical map of the world understands the stupidity of this statement.

      In this case, the author also does not quite understand the difference between a map and a globe.
  3. +9
    17 March 2021 09: 21
    I read it and understood: such a soothing article.
    Judging by the calmness with which the Pentagon's message was received by our military, measures have already been taken.
    So everything is calm in "Baghdad" - sleep sweetly and further, citizens.
    New American radar? And what terrible happened? Our missilemen and pilots received additional targets.
    Likewise, NATO missilemen and pilots received the targets of our radars.
    Neither we nor the Americans are going to attack the “partner”.
    But this is already pure betrayal, it turns out that we can not prepare for war, not spend money on the army?
    The construction of nuclear-powered icebreakers in Russia is proceeding at such a pace that the West froze in horror.
    Only in the inflamed brains of some of our citizens, yes, you can see that "the West froze in horror."
    1. -9
      17 March 2021 10: 29
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      But this is already pure betrayal, it turns out

      Calm down, normal combat work is going on and the panicky slogans "We have been betrayed, to arms, citizens!" - stupidity. And the irony of Aerodromny is inappropriate in this case. On icebreakers, as well as on any large ships, it is quite possible to install any weapons, even ballistic missiles.
      1. +2
        17 March 2021 18: 34
        Quote: Pushkar
        On icebreakers, as well as on any large ships, it is quite possible to install any weapons, even ballistic missiles.
        This is prohibited by agreement, on surface ships only cruise missiles.
        1. 0
          17 March 2021 21: 59
          It is forbidden in peacetime, calling the current president of Russia a murderer is also not very allowed.
        2. 0
          21 March 2021 21: 22
          The agreements are over, our SMP-icebreakers are even armed with artillery systems.
  4. +7
    17 March 2021 10: 27
    "... Simply put, the Americans will now see the launches of our ballistic missiles from the first seconds of the flight ..." Complete nonsense !!! LRDR is a truly new S-band radar with innovative transmit / receive GaN modules + advanced software and algorithmic software - all this provides better capabilities for the detection and recognition of complex ballistic target (SBC) elements compared to the previous AN / FPS-132 radar. However, the physics of the processes has not yet been canceled ... This radar is a typical sector supra-horizon station with an elevation angle of the lower edge of the sector of about 2 degrees, i.e. ballistic targets (elements of the CBC) fall into its zone already in the middle section of the trajectory, when the formation of the CBC has long been completed. Consequently, there can be no talk of any "first seconds" of the flight.
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  6. +1
    17 March 2021 11: 49
    Didn't understand why the "answer"?
  7. +1
    17 March 2021 11: 52
    Americans plan to detect launches and full trajectory of ICBMs
    and transmit to missile defense with a series of hundreds of low-flying satellites with radars
    and IR optics. Idea: quick replacement of satellites, launch in batches of several
    dozens at once.
    While the project is under tender.
  8. +4
    17 March 2021 16: 01
    Now Siberia and the Far East are under American supervision.

    And before that, it was not? Claire Air Force Base or Shemya Island? They weren't there in the 70s yet?
  9. +5
    17 March 2021 17: 36
    I read to the west, beating in horror from icebreakers, I could not go on

    Verdict: feces, author, redo sad
  10. 0
    17 March 2021 18: 21
    The Americans, of course, do not have a large military grouping in Alaska, but they have a large airbase there near Fairbanks with a bunch of F-22 Raptors. Apparently this is an American greeting to our Vilyuchinsk.

    We should also send greetings to amers in the form of the Voronezh radar somewhere near Uelen. With cover in the form of the Su-57 air regiment.
    1. +1
      17 March 2021 20: 02
      It's hard to believe in Voronezh. The Su-57 regiments are smaller.
  11. +8
    17 March 2021 19: 23
    This is despite the fact that the "partners" (in this case, we) have the opportunity to land a rather serious landing on the territory of Alaska. Russia has units prepared for operations in the Arctic, and no one is going to expand the Bering Strait.

    This ... I don't even know what to call it. It's not even a jingoistic patriot. It....
    Can you tell us who this "serious landing" through the "unexpanded" Bering Strait will consist of? Of the drunken Chukchi or what? And where are those "prepared for action in the Arctic" units? Can you tell us about the logistics to Anadyr? About three months on ships, and the rest ONLY by air? Maybe about supplies? About products from China, Japan and even from the same states? And, I know, this is about five Lad-Kalin, standing at the local Anadyr police department, along with a couple of UAZs. Yes, a great example of MTO.
    PS About icebreakers, with a wave of the hand turning into carriers of ICBMs, too. Is it possible that "nightingale droppings" have an effect on immature minds? wassat
    ZZY I wonder how the moderators of the resource are similar deliriumDelusion passes through moderation?
    1. +1
      17 March 2021 22: 15
      Quote: KSVK
      ZZY I wonder how the moderators of the resource pass such nonsense through moderation?

      Actually, this is a forum and each participant has the right to express their opinion. It is forbidden to be rude and insult opponents by the rules of the forum.
      1. -2
        18 March 2021 15: 13
        Quote: Pushkar
        Quote: KSVK
        ZZY I wonder how the moderators of the resource pass such nonsense through moderation?

        Actually, this is a forum and each participant has the right to express their opinion. It is forbidden to be rude and insult opponents by the rules of the forum.


        Delirium is a medical term, not an insult or rudeness ...
        And everyone needs to know about it!
        And if you confuse medical deviations from the norm with rudeness and insults, it means that you are the one who has problems ...

        Delusional ideas are very diverse, based on a number of parameters, various types of delusions are distinguished:

        By content (plot, storyline).

        The content of delusional ideas is what first draws attention to itself when trying to classify delusions. However, the analysis of the direct content of delusion has limited diagnostic value, since the content of delusion largely depends on factors that are not directly related to the disease that causes it (era, social environment, vital interests and values ​​of the patient, etc.).

        So, delusional ideas largely reflect the specifics of the time in which a person lives. For example, in some patients who fell ill in the 1970s and 80s, for more than 30 years, the KGB and Communist Party figures of that time have figured in their experiences, although they have long since left the political scene and the country has become completely different. At the same time, if these patients are dominated by beliefs about the influence of "lasers" and other technical means on them, then in patients who fell ill at the turn of the late 1980s - early 1990s, ideas of damage, the evil eye, the influence of sorcerers and psychics began to appear more often (then there was a time of revival of interest in these issues after they were closed for discussion in the USSR).

        Nevertheless, the three main (most common) plots of delusion - persecution, greatness and self-accusation - are invariable, in addition, their allocation carries certain diagnostic information (for example, ideas of self-accusation are most likely indicative of depression and may mean an increased risk of suicidal attempts).
  12. +1
    18 March 2021 05: 41
    Quote: KSVK
    This is despite the fact that the "partners" (in this case, we) have the opportunity to land a rather serious landing on the territory of Alaska. Russia has units prepared for operations in the Arctic, and no one is going to expand the Bering Strait.

    This ... I don't even know what to call it. It's not even a jingoistic patriot. It....
    Can you tell us who this "serious landing" through the "unexpanded" Bering Strait will consist of? Of the drunken Chukchi or what? And where are those "prepared for action in the Arctic" units? Can you tell us about the logistics to Anadyr? About three months on ships, and the rest ONLY by air? Maybe about supplies? About products from China, Japan and even from the same states? And, I know, this is about five Lad-Kalin, standing at the local Anadyr police department, along with a couple of UAZs. Yes, a great example of MTO.
    PS About icebreakers, with a wave of the hand turning into carriers of ICBMs, too. Is it possible that "nightingale droppings" have an effect on immature minds? wassat
    ZZY I wonder how the moderators of the resource are similar deliriumDelusion passes through moderation?


    This is not nonsense.
    In Chukotka, the entire military infrastructure for a large military grouping of tens of thousands of fighters remained from the times of the USSR. Read about the colossal underground storage facility for nuclear weapons near Anadyr. How do you think logistics was provided at that time? I will simply say that it was provided, although it was expensive.

    It is only necessary to reactivate and repair this infrastructure, otherwise in the conditions of the North it quickly becomes unusable.
    1. 0
      18 March 2021 15: 28
      Quote: Alexander1971

      It is only necessary to reactivate and repair this infrastructure, otherwise in the conditions of the North it quickly becomes unusable.

      It will no longer be possible to repair it.
      here is a photo report 5 years ago
      https://sergeydolya.livejournal.com/1255721.html
    2. 0
      19 March 2021 00: 01
      If they will restore it, it will cost more than one trillion rubles and at least 7 years of time.
  13. 0
    19 March 2021 00: 37
    Our missilemen and pilots received additional targets.
    Our suppressors are given a new challenge

    Yes Yes. The author clearly confuses geopolitics with economics.
    It would be better to build a hundred schools and thousands of kilometers of roads,
    joyful you are ours.
  14. 0
    19 March 2021 11: 44
    "This route must belong to all countries!"
    The point is small - to make all similar routes belonging to certain countries today, free and available without restrictions for others. wink
  15. 0
    30 March 2021 11: 49
    Excuse me, but how to translate into Russian the crazy set of letters "accurate metric data to improve the discrimination of ballistic protection and replace existing sensors in the missile defense system"?
  16. 0
    April 3 2021 14: 24
    The fact is that the region of Alaska and our Far East was out of the control zone for a long time.


    Yes? And PAVE PAWS, which was later replaced by SSPARS, was not Clear at the same base?

    Simply put, the Americans will now see our ballistic missile launches from the first seconds of flight.


    What nonsense) The horizon is not in the S-band, but on decameter waves.

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