"And 65 percent of the respondents do not want to change the Constitution": Lukashenko advised the commission on amending the Basic Law

The President of the Republic of Belarus congratulated fellow citizens on the 27th anniversary of the adoption of the Constitution. For reference: the Belarusian Basic Law was adopted on March 15, 1994 and approved the main norms. In particular, Belarus was designated as a unitary democratic social rule of law with the principle of the rule of law and separation of powers. The President of the Republic of Belarus, on the basis of the Constitution, is its guarantor, as well as the guarantor of the rights and freedoms of Belarusian citizens.

Alexander Lukashenko also held a meeting with representatives of the previously formed Constitutional Commission. This commission was assembled on the basis of the decision of the VI People's Assembly of Belarus, and it begins its work today - on the Constitution Day of the Republic of Belarus.

The decision was a kind of response on the part of the Belarusian authorities (and, first of all, the president) to the numerous protests that swept the republic after last year's elections. Then, according to the Central Election Commission of the Republic of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko won about 80% of the vote. The candidate who took 2nd place in the elections - Svetlana Tikhanovskaya - has about 10%. Today Tikhanovskaya is outside Belarus and has actually turned into a puppet of anti-Belarusian forces in Europe.

Alexander Lukashenko, addressing the members of the formed commission:

The activities of the Constitutional Commission should be transparent and open. The availability of your work for people's initiatives is a matter of public confidence in its result.

According to Lukashenka, a whole range of proposals on amendments to the Basic Law of the Republic of Belarus had already been submitted during the All-Belarusian People's Assembly and during the subsequent formation of the commission.

In announcing preparations for amending the Constitution, the President of Belarus pointed out that "the current Constitution has not exhausted itself either."

From Lukashenka's parting words:

At the forefront are our national interests, political and legal traditions. But according to a large-scale sociological survey, more than 65% of its participants do not consider it necessary to change the Constitution at all.

These statements of the President of the Republic of Belarus, as political analysts believe, indicate that he himself does not intend to change anything in the Constitution, but pressure is being exerted on him, because Lukashenka is ready to launch a process that, as he would like, was under complete control.

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[ALARI]

Like a lather, it seems relieved from the heart, he pulled on an old song about multi-vector, and the like.

[Orange bigg]

He is not in the age and social position to strive for some kind of radical change. For the most part, he has already lived his life. The outlook on life has been formed and it will not change it. If Lukashenka was really striving for change, it would look like bees against honey.

.From Lukashenka's parting words:

At the forefront are our national interests, political and legal traditions. But according to a large-scale sociological survey, more than 65% of its participants do not consider it necessary to change the Constitution at all.

These statements of the President of the Republic of Belarus, as political analysts believe, indicate that he himself does not intend to change anything in the Constitution, but pressure is being exerted on him, because Lukashenka is ready to launch a process that, as he would like, was under complete control.

[Machito]

The adoption of the new Constitution is an excellent reason for zeroing. According to the current Constitution, Belarus is a social state.

[WHAT IS]

Quote: Bearded

The adoption of the new Constitution is an excellent reason for zeroing.

He is the first and so far the only president of the country, holding this post since 1994. Two years after his first election victory, a referendum was held to amend the constitution, after which Lukashenka, following the example of Karimov, "reset" the five-year term of his presidency. Therefore, his second term began in the new century, after winning the 2001 elections. Three years later, another referendum was held in the country, which deleted from the constitution a norm that limited the number of consecutive presidential terms for the same person. as head of state for the fifth consecutive term.

[Orange bigg]

The first was Shushkevich.

[Sergej1972]

Shushkevich was the Chairman of the Supreme Soviet of Belarus, that is, the highest official before the establishment of the post of President. By the way, he was opposed to the establishment of the post of President of Belarus.

[Orange bigg]

What's the point? The old man is still pulling. And if he does, that is Nikolai Lukashenko. Maybe under the new Constitution Belarus will become a constitutional monarchy? Power will be transferred from father to son.

[New Year day]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Maybe under the new Constitution Belarus will become a constitutional monarchy? Power will be transferred from father to son.

Then we also have: why is Putin's daughter worse?

[New Year day]

Quote: Bearded

a great reason to reset to zero.

Luke? Does he want? There are doubts

[urii1987]

Actually, we are also a "social" state under the constitution.

[XXXIII]

Withdrawing the thoughts of the people from the problems in the country. This is good, but problems cannot be solved by themselves either. This means that a new wave of protests will come, and then they will break the bottom of the boat, as in Ukraine, quietly, slowly, stage by stage. And most importantly, there are no questions to whom it is beneficial and why such a blind policy in Belarus, with such a skillful president of all trades.

[Roman070280]

"And 65 percent of the respondents do not want to change the Constitution"

95% of us did not want to change the retirement age .. and somehow nothing ..

[NEOZ]

Quote: Roman070280

95% of us did not want to change the retirement age .. and somehow nothing ..

and we also have 99,9% of the population does not want to die .... does it bother you?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Roman070280

95% of us did not want to change the retirement age .. and somehow nothing ..

and we also have 99,9% of the population does not want to die .... does it bother you?

Yes Yes. You will also sing a song about how raising the retirement age is a blessing for Russia.

[NEOZ]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

that raising the retirement age is a boon for Russia.

if you were studying demography, then you would not have such questions ...
I've studied this subject at the university ...

[Flooding]

Quote: NEOZ

I've studied this subject at the university ..

they also found something to surprise me
now everyone with the Internet in a smartphone is an academician to himself

[Flooding]

Quote: NEOZ

I've studied this subject at the university ...

uh ...
I hope you noticed the irony in the post above.
and I didn't hurt you in any way.
because such a task, of course, was not set.
and the joke was aimed at the modern generation
I’m already wondering whether to disable the "humor" function in the comments

[Nikza]

Well, if you're so smart, can you explain to me a fool, where did they put my money for 20 years of pension taxes? (I take only Putin's time. Although I paid in the 90s, 6, no less). I remember very well how Putin said on TV "People themselves must save up for retirement by paying the pension tax." And I also remember very well how banners hung all over Moscow "Add 1 rubles every month to the pension fund, and the state will pay its 000 rubles." (something like this) And I almost believed it. Nearly. And I also remember that a piece of paper (extract) came from the pension fund, where it was written that I had 1 rubles. pension savings. Where did it all go?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Nikza

Well, if you're so smart, can you explain to me a fool, where did they put my money for 20 years of pension taxes?

being an able-bodied person and paying taxes, you paid a pension to existing pensioners at that time ... as now your pension is paid by today's able-bodied (working) citizens ... in no other way the pension system does not work.
for a given period of time, there are 1 dependents per 3 worker (a feature of demography where two childbirth crises were superimposed - the Second World War and the 90s) ... here either reduce the pension (reduce the purchasing power) or increase the age.
ps
You don't believe you can put aside a bag of potatoes for retirement, do you?

[Pereira]

Some are setting aside their mansions in London for retirement.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: NEOZ

there are 1 dependents per 3 employed person

One question. What kind of product do you manufacture?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Mordvin 3

One question. What kind of product do you manufacture?

I provide services for industrial production. what is the question?

[Machito]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Nikza

Well, if you're so smart, can you explain to me a fool, where did they put my money for 20 years of pension taxes?

being an able-bodied person and paying taxes, you paid a pension to existing pensioners at that time ... as now your pension is paid by today's able-bodied (working) citizens ... in no other way the pension system does not work.
for a given period of time, there are 1 dependents per 3 worker (a feature of demography where two childbirth crises were superimposed - the Second World War and the 90s) ... here either reduce the pension (reduce the purchasing power) or increase the age.
ps
You don't believe you can put aside a bag of potatoes for retirement, do you?

You have forgotten about the Polovtsy and the Pechenegs. There was also a demographic crisis.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Bearded

You have forgotten about the Polovtsy and the Pechenegs. There was also a demographic crisis.

sir, you are a fool ... unfortunately ... please take a little time and study the subject "demography" textbook for universities. everything is chewed there ... after your study of this issue, I will be ready to continue the discussion ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: NEOZ

I've studied this subject at the university ...

You know, I've also studied economics. And it goes in the complete opposite of what I see now.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Mordvin 3

You know, I've also studied economics. And it goes in the complete opposite of what I see now.

what is this strange logic?
math: 2 + 2 = not 4 .... because you studied economics and it doesn't fit your vision?
ps
on economics, I partly agree with you, but this does not mean the fallacy of other subjects !!!

[New Year day]

Quote: NEOZ

I've studied this subject at the university ...

We all learned a little ...

[Pereira]

If you don’t want to die, don’t die. The state will not bond you. It will only be your conscious choice.

[private person]

and we also have 99,9% of the population does not want to die .... does it bother you?

Are you one of those 5% of enemies of the Russian people who shouted foaming at the mouth that it is necessary to raise the retirement age? Have you been to the cemetery for a long time?

[Flooding]

comrade meant otherwise

that if you were asked at what age you would like to receive a pension, you would answer that 40 is just right.
that the interests of the state are not always in tune with the interests of ordinary people (example of China to help)

it is only important that these very interests of the state be correctly understood and implemented.

to be a great statesman you don't need to listen to the population, you need to understand their interests. and still put the interests of the state higher.

the problem now is in the absence of these greats.

[Svarog]

Quote: Flood

that if you were asked at what age you would like to receive a pension, you would answer that 40 is just right.
that the interests of the state are not always in tune with the interests of ordinary people (example of China to help)

The age of retirement in the USSR was not taken from the ceiling .. it is due to the physical characteristics of a person ... and since then, a person has not become stronger, harder and healthier ..
And what interests of the state are you talking about? Do you think a state for a person or a person for a state should exist?
This is the deeper meaning .. and the annual decline in population .. all from the fact that a person in today's RF is a means of making a profit for a narrow group of people .. Well, hence the unwillingness to reproduce and high mortality. With such a worldview and understanding of the role of the state, there will be no citizens in this state in fifty years.

[Flooding]

Quote: Svarog

And what interests of the state are you talking about? Do you think a state for a person or a person for a state should exist?

I wrote at least a word in defense of the adopted law?
I wrote about the priority of state interests over private

Quote: Flood

it is only important that these very interests of the state be correctly understood and implemented.

if there are any objections to the written - if you please

[private person]

I wrote about the priority of state interests over private

You wrote that I would answer 40 just right. And I'll tell you that there was simply no need to change the retirement age. And what priority are you talking about? The state is the people who live there. And the people were asked?

[Flooding]

Quote: private person

The state is the people who live there. And the people were asked?

1.the state is not a people
2.you, by voting in the elections, endowed the deputies with legislative powers
3. I do not support an increase in the retirement age in any way. I write about the principles of relations between the state and the people

[Flooding]

Quote: Svarog

Do you think a state for a person or a person for a state should exist?

And so you asked very well.
In the worst of it.
A very interesting question for understanding what is wrong with us.
And then I answer: a man for the state. Firstly.
And only in the second: the state for the person. As much as possible.
Otherwise, great states will not survive.
When the state is for a person, the Roman empires collapse.

[Svarog]

Otherwise, great states will not survive.

How are things with us now? Do you know what's wrong with demographics?

When the state is for a person, the Roman empires collapse.

Do you think the Roman Empire was for a person? Far from it.
The destruction mechanism is always the same. It occurs when there is no possibility of updating. And this possibility is canceled by human weaknesses. (lust for power, money, etc.)
For this reason, “destruction of empires” and “state for man” are essentially different problems.
Today we live according to the principle "a person for the state" .. the state has its citizens .. otherwise .. And what is the result? The result is sad .. In the USSR, a society was built where the state was for a person .. And the results were stunning .. But the problem with the qualitative renewal of the "top" was not solved .. from there and we have .. what we have

[Flooding]

Quote: Svarog

Do you think the Roman Empire was for a person? Far from it.

for a citizen, of course
who are interested in non-citizens even in our enlightened times?
and yes, late rome became just that
when the Romans regularly bought their security with silver and gold, not iron and blood

Quote: Svarog

How are things with us now?

with the absorption of Western values ​​- excellent.
however, to the detriment of Russian statehood.

Quote: Svarog

Today we live according to the principle "man for the state

Of course not
today we live according to the principle "man for the capitalist"

[Svarog]

Quote: Flood

Of course not
today we live according to the principle "man for the capitalist"

Yes ... I agree.

[Andrey Shiryaev]

You should be crucifying in vain, people with small-town thinking do not understand strategic tasks.

[dauria]

And then I answer: a man for the state. Firstly.
And only in the second: the state for the person. As much as possible.

Great ... First of all, the liver cells must work for the alcoholic (and most importantly, for the cells of his brain).
And then the alcoholic will take care of the liver as much as possible.
You missed a simple thing. The state is a struggle between the authorities and the people. If there is no winner in it, everything is in order, the system is balanced. In our country, the government has won with a dry account and rejoices, not suspecting that the spineless wordless "people" are digging the state, the people and their own grave.
If the liver doesn't hurt after drinking, then maybe it's already dead?

[Flooding]

Quote: dauria

The state is a struggle between the authorities and the people. If there is no winner in it, everything is in order, the system is balanced.

you seem to think that this is the balance
mistaking a state of rest for balance
because if in any system two forces oppose each other with the same power, the result will be zero
where will the impulse, torque, movement come from?
the result will be a great nothing, a swamp instead of a river, calm instead of wind

Quote: dauria

First of all, liver cells must work for the alcoholic

is it different in your body? do you work for your liver and heart?

[dauria]

is it different in your body? do you work for your liver and heart?

Exactly. We have to work for them, otherwise we will all die together. And im at me. Or we'll all die together again. Unity and struggle. And the liver will not allow me to burst soundly, and I will not let it tinker - either I will cure, or I will transplant from a donor ...
This is automatic regulation. The power crushes the people, the people crushes the power. The main thing is that one side should not be defeated. And this is done by selecting coefficients in a feedback loop .. Otherwise, it will be either October and the ass to the country, or the Fuehrer and, as a result, the ass to the country again.

[Flooding]

Quote: dauria

Unity and struggle

the unity and struggle of opposites means interdependence and constant opposition, no more and no less.
if the reaction is equal to the action, you will get a zero result.
this struggle loses its meaning.
the immune system must win in the fight against infection.
as well as the circulatory system in the fight against friction and gravity.
Why argue about the obvious and invent absurdities about a balanced struggle between the state and the people?

Quote: dauria

Exactly. We have to work for them, otherwise we will all die together. And im at me

your organs do not care about your personality. they work as long as the body is viable. although yogis claim that they can influence the work of organs. you will not be one of them?

[dauria]

if the reaction is equal to the action, you will get a zero result.
this struggle loses its meaning.

Mistake . The zero result is exactly what the whole structure needs. No deviations from zero of the controlled parameter. Do not interfere from the outside - the slave system will be eternal. It is also stable and self-regulating perfectly.
And "progress" in sociology is the result of the competition between states for territories, resources, etc. Not an internal struggle, but an external one. And "natural selection"
states more adapted to the struggle.
Note, not the best, but the more adapted at the moment in the given conditions.

[Flooding]

Quote: dauria

The zero result is exactly what the whole structure needs. No deviations from zero of the controlled parameter. Do not interfere from the outside - the slave system will be eternal. It is also stable and self-regulating perfectly.

and no contradictions.
society develops in many ways in proportion to technical progress, which dictates changes in production.
since the new production and economic relations begin to conflict with the old social order.
this is the basics.
the state of dormancy of any established socio-economic system means a lack of progress.
that is, the path to nowhere
and you assure us that

Quote: dauria

The state is a struggle between the authorities and the people. If there is no winner in it, everything is in order, the system is balanced.

such a state, doomed to vegetation, will always have a winner. but only external.

[dauria]

but only external.

And what did I write about? An internal "struggle" without a winner is a guarantee of the structure's existence. The basis of "heredity". Mutations (successful and vice versa). And the selection of the successful by external struggle. You see, this is not even Darwinism, but more general laws for all structures from molecules to NATO and the Warsaw Pact.
The law of large numbers, a jump in probability at the time of an event and a trigger effect.

[Flooding]

Quote: dauria

The law of large numbers, a jump in probability at the time of an event and a trigger effect

is that allowed?
no I do not mind
but you should measure my modest capabilities and your brilliant potential
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[dauria]

but you should measure my modest capabilities and your brilliant potential

Do not clown about and do not be poor. This is from biophysics.
At least this approach explains the Amazon tribes, the gatherers of Australia, and the peoples of the Far North. And religious wars, and the war between Intel and AMD, and even the fact that the most ancient cartilaginous fish still reign in the water - sharks without any need for "self-improvement". And life had to make a huge detour, get out on land, millions of years away from sharks to create a mammal competitor - a dolphin
Understand - you will not regret it. Much will be simplified.
You see, I'm a techie. Engineer. But one day I suddenly wanted to understand why the hell a bunch of inanimate molecules becomes alive.

[Flooding]

Quote: dauria

At least this approach explains the Amazon tribes, the gatherers of Australia, and the peoples of the Far North. And religious wars, and the war between Intel and AMD, and even the fact that the most ancient cartilaginous fish still reign in the water - sharks without any need for "self-improvement".

and what does he better explain, the nature of the divine or the Big Bang?

[dauria]

and what does he better explain, the nature of the divine or the Big Bang?

He explains that the origin of life is not a miracle, but an ordinary natural law. It will be a miracle if life does not appear in the expected timeframe under the right conditions.
As if you had never rolled 6: 6 on the dice all evening.
With an explosion, everything seems to fit, except for "inflation" (expansion with superluminal speed). We'll have to send Einstein with his homogeneous isotropic space.
Eka we climbed - from working class strikes to physics. Enough, perhaps.

[Flooding]

Quote: dauria

He explains that the origin of life is not a miracle, but an ordinary natural law.

I'm not looking for easy ways

[Rita Aletdinova 1999]

Pure truth!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

, you would answer that 40 is just right.

Bullshit!

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Bullshit!

Thank you for your informative and constructive criticism.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

Thank you for your informative and constructive criticism.

Thank you! And who doesn't want to work after 40 years? I saw such people. They were mostly convicted, and ... Interior Ministry officers. Well, quitters in life, which is natural.

[Flooding]

"Working" and "receiving a pension" are not mutually exclusive things. It is necessary to understand.
Ask the military. One thing is quite correlated with the other.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

"Not working" and "receiving a pension" are two different things. It is necessary to understand.
Ask the military.

Yeah, I recently talked with the military brother that the lieutenant colonel receives 223 thousand. He is a little over forty, and he hesitated to work hard on his native MO. So he dreams of completing a hotel in the Moscow region and living there happily. This hotel, of course, is assigned to another person.

[not main]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Flood

"Not working" and "receiving a pension" are two different things. It is necessary to understand.
Ask the military.

Yeah, I recently talked with the military brother that the lieutenant colonel receives 223 thousand. He is a little over forty, and he hesitated to work hard on his native MO. So he dreams of completing a hotel in the Moscow region and living there happily. This hotel, of course, is assigned to another person.

Lies! Or give "your proof". 223 "thousand" is in general ... I also wanted to ask: Does the "military brother" not live in a gateway?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: non-primary

Lies!

What's the lie?

Quote: non-primary

And the "military brother" does not live in a gateway?

No, he lives far from the capital of our country.

[not main]

Quote: Mordvin 3

What's the lie?

The fact that a lieutenant colonel at the age of "a little over forty" receives 223 "thousand"!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: non-primary

The fact that a lieutenant colonel at the age of "a little over forty" receives 223 "thousand"!

He is a lieutenant colonel of the VKS. Just like you, thousand major. Chief of one service.

[not main]

This is exactly why I say; LIES!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: non-primary

This is exactly why I say; LIES!

Shta, are they getting even more?

[not main]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: non-primary

This is exactly why I say; LIES!

Shta, are they getting even more?

Not funny! Turn on the brain! those.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: non-primary

Turn on the brain! those.

For what I bought, for what I sell. I see no reason not to believe. However, I shut up, this is really not funny, and then suddenly I will reveal some military secret, such as where he was and whom he taught. Everything, hung up his mouth.

[not main]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: non-primary

Turn on the brain! those.

For what I bought, for what I sell. I see no reason not to believe. However, I shut up, this is really not funny, and then suddenly I will reveal some military secret, such as where he was and whom he taught. Everything, hung up his mouth.

Actually, it was necessary to start with this! And the foundations are above the roof! And more about the well.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: non-primary

Actually, it was necessary to start with this!

And I am a civilian, I don't give a damn. And you don't need to scare me, otherwise I'll take it out of fear right now and tell everything, and where the restaurant with beds is being built for the mother-in-law, and all that and that.

[not main]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: non-primary

Actually, it was necessary to start with this!

And I am a civilian, I don't give a damn. And you don't need to scare me, otherwise I'll take it out of fear right now and tell everything, and where the restaurant with beds is being built for the mother-in-law, and all that and that.

Again! Interestingly from where "drovishki"? But in fact ... something tells me that you are confusing the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Emergency Situations and also the National Guard.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: non-primary

Interestingly from where "drovishki"?

I will not say, I am a partisan.

Quote: non-primary

... something tells me that you are confusing the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Emergency Situations and also the National Guard.

Remember, I confuse something a little when and where. Unless drunk, but, alas, I'm tough.

[not main]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Remember, I confuse something a little when and where. Unless drunk, but, alas, I'm tough.

So I'm right! You have not presented anything reliable, except for "someone said"! And yet, my civilian interlocutor, I heard this for a long time! and very often! Only this all turned out to be not true when I had to apply for a pension! It turned out that .... I will not kindle.

[Roman070280]

and we also have 99,9% of the population does not want to die .... does it bother you?

It doesn't bother me ..
But if our government could change the Constitution, forcing dying would be embarrassing .. Although not surprising ..

[Svarog]

Quote: Roman070280

and we also have 99,9% of the population does not want to die .... does it bother you?

It doesn't bother me ..
But if our government could change the Constitution, forcing dying would be embarrassing .. Although not surprising ..

Firstly, our government can easily change the Constitution and has recently demonstrated this .. and if the need arises, they can do it every half a year ..
Secondly, it is not necessary to amend the Constitution in order to "force" people to die .. it is enough not to raise salaries, to ensure constant inflation, to cut hospitals and the quality of personnel, to make quality food and high-quality medicines inaccessible, and to raise the retirement age .. All this will allow you to quickly get rid of the "unnecessary" .. In my opinion, all the points are fulfilled.

[Flooding]

Quote: Roman070280

95% of us did not want to change the retirement age .. and somehow nothing ..

what do you think the poll on the desired retirement age will show?
I think closer to 50
people are not their own enemies

for me personally, it is not the text of the adopted laws that is more important, but trust in the authorities.
even if the measure is unpopular, I agree and tighten the belt.
but I would like to firmly know at the same time that this need is for the benefit of the country's interests, and not for the sake of private interests and not just another experiment of mediocre bureaucrats

[Roman070280]

this need for the benefit of the country's interests, and not for the sake of private interests and not just another experiment of mediocre bureaucrats

90% of all resources and goods belong to a gang of 3% of the population.
That's all there is to know about "necessity" ..

[Flooding]

what exactly of what I have written do you wish to dispute?

[Roman070280]

Why immediately dispute ..
I highlighted in bold what I wanted to draw attention to .. and commented on it ..
Further it is not difficult to guess for yourself ..))

[Flooding]

that is, your comment does not contradict mine in any way.
already good.
because I chose the words quite deliberately
and you can consider each of them in bold

[Roman070280]

Then I will repeat myself ...
And you yourself try to find contradictions ..))

I agree and tighten the belt.
but I would like to firmly know at the same time that this need is for the benefit of the interests of the country, and not for the sake of private interests

90% of all resources and goods belong to a gang of 3% of the population.

[Flooding]

Quote: Roman070280

Then I will repeat myself ...
Try to find contradictions yourself.

the subjunctive mood cannot in any way contradict the existing realities.

[Roman070280]

This is when you watch the rain pouring outside the window .. and at the same time say to yourself in the subjunctive mood the words of hope that there is sunny weather ..))

Although .. in the case of the weather, there is still a possibility that after going down the elevator, the sun will really appear there ..
But in the case of our government, alas, there is no chance that we are asked to tighten the belts for the good of the country, and not for the sake of selfish interests ..

[Flooding]

Quote: Roman070280

This is when you watch the rain pouring outside the window .. and at the same time say to yourself in the subjunctive mood the words of hope that there is sunny weather ..))

Of course not. has nothing to do with Chumak and Kashpirovsky.
sit down, two
it only means what I have written.
"I would like to"

[Roman070280]

And it seemed like they started for health ..))

[Flooding]

Are you not at all embarrassed by your poor knowledge of the Russian language?
how you understood or misunderstood what I wrote should not be my headache. these are your spaces, and only yours

[Roman070280]

Are you not at all embarrassed by your poor knowledge of the Russian language?

Everything with the Russian language was wonderful for me at all times, which I am very pleased with ..))

How did you understand or misunderstood what I have written should not be my headache. these are your spaces, and only yours

In this case, you just didn't understand something .. or even misunderstood ..))

what exactly of what I have written do you wish to dispute?

But I don’t even make a problem out of this, and I’m always ready to help ..

[Flooding]

have mercy, I am already drowning in this abundance of your words in an attempt to find a drop of the rational.
All the best.

[Roman070280]

I'm already drowning in this abundance of your words

I say that everything is fine with the Russian language ..))

"in an attempt to to convey rational "..

But you have some mistakes ..))

[Flooding]

Quote: Roman070280

I say that everything is fine with the Russian language.

another mistake. this time logical.
abundance speaks of quantity, but not quality.
sorry, could not resist
say goodbye

[Roman070280]

Oooh .. we can also speculate about logic ..))
Here, according to my logic, you always quote only irrelevant to the topic .. then the Chumak .. then the Russian language .. Thus, simply evading the essence of the question ..

But I really write

"in an attempt to convey the rational" ..

For you yourself did not understand the first post ..

Shl .. Forgive ..))

[Roman070280]

I agree and tighten the belt.
but I would like to firmly know at the same time that this need is for the benefit of the country's interests

you watch the rain pouring outside the window .. and at the same time you say to yourself in the subjunctive mood the words of hope that there is sunny weather, and agree to go without an umbrella..

As you can see, the matter here is not limited to one "I would like".
There is also some kind of action present .. conditioned by those same Wishlist, by the way .. and contrary to the existing reality !!

Shl .. and finish raving about Kashpirovsky ..))

[Flooding]

Quote: Roman070280

As you can see, here the matter is not limited to one "I would like" .. There is also some action present .. due to the very same Wishlist, by the way !!

and you are a noble master of pouring from empty to empty.

[Roman070280]

Well, yes .. whether it's about the Chumak to write ..))

Shl .. you yourself initially decided to arrange some "confusion" .. although I did not write anything complicated ..
So do not blame me that the last phrase came out a little more complicated .. but it reveals the essence of what I said above much more broadly ..

[Flooding]

Quote: Roman070280

Well, yes .. whether it's about the Chumak to write ..))

you began to write in the Chumakov style
I just pointed out this fact

Quote: Roman070280

This is when you watch the rain pouring outside the window .. and at the same time say to yourself in the subjunctive mood the words of hope that there is sunny weather.

did not set myself the task of turning you from ools to your feet
stay in this wonderful position upside down
all the best

[Roman070280]

you began to write in the Chumakov style
I just pointed out this fact

You just changed the subject so as not to answer on the merits ..

did not set myself the task of turning you from ools to your feet
stay in this wonderful position upside down
all the best

The same as in this case ..

But I gave a completely simple example .. in which I emphasized that:

business is not limited to one "I would like" ..
There is also some kind of action present .. conditioned by those same Wishlist, by the way .. and contrary to the existing reality !!

And this, by the way, was written at your own request ..))

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

I think closer to 50
people are not their own enemies

Don't write nonsense, and stop taking people for dummies.

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Don't write nonsense, and stop taking people for dummies.

if you have nothing more to write except "nonsense" and "nonsense", then you better pass by
I am more interested in interlocutors with thoughts and skills of their presentation
Why do you think that taking care of yourself, a loved one, has suddenly become a feature that distinguishes boobies?
this is biological egrationalism

[paul3390]

In fact, not the majority wanted to set up the USSR and establish capitalism, too .. But who asks us? Not for that the bourgeoisie broke the Union, so that later they would also be interested in the type of popular opinion .. Why? When it is already known - so that you all, bastards, take a break with your villas, yachts and bills outside the cordon ..

[NEOZ]

ah bow .... ah sly !!!!!!!))))))))))

[Pereira]

Maybe Sveta Guaido take a ticket to Moscow? For ostrastka two-stemmed.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Pereira

Svete Guaidó take a ticket to Moscow?

Duc who will allow her that?

[Pereira]

Why not? Will the cashier at the station refuse?

[Kisa]

it became less clear what they were whispering about and what they came to on skis in Sochi. a donut hole for you and not the Minsk province. and the Cockroach will still play on national patriotic feelings

[NEOZ]

Quote: kitty

The cockroach will still play on national patriotic feelings

so much the worse for patriots ...

[Pereira]

Patriots in Russia have no fun for a long time.

[Virus-free crown]

That's interesting ... almost EVERYTHING !!! my numerous relatives in Belarus (it doesn't matter if they are for Lukashenka or against) "demand changes" ... And according to Lukashenka "Everything is calm in Baghdad"

After all, "A cloudless sky over the whole of Spain" will wait

[NEOZ]

Quote: Corona without virus

That's interesting ... almost EVERYTHING !!! numerous relatives (it does not matter if they are for or against Lukashenka) "demand changes" ...

about! it's like all the familiar Ukrainians! they, too, were all without exception for the changes in 2014 ..... and thought it couldn't be worse ..... this time ....
the second is a cut of your relatives! does not say anything ... perhaps this is only a feature of your family!

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Corona without virus

That's interesting ... almost EVERYTHING !!! numerous relatives (it does not matter if they are for or against Lukashenka) "demand changes" ...

about! it's like all the familiar Ukrainians! they, too, were all without exception for the changes in 2014 ..... and thought it couldn't be worse ..... this time ....
the second is a cut of your relatives! does not say anything ... perhaps this is only a feature of your family!

Lavrenty, you will be very surprised, but Lukashenka's "multi-vector nature" led to the fact that "Abroad will help us")))



Lukashenka brought the Belarusians to the point that they are REAL !!! believe that life is better in the West And this is YOURSELF !!! Lukashenka "promoted" the West - as they say, "We don't need enemies with such friends")))

[Flooding]

Quote: Corona without virus

my numerous relatives in Belarus (it doesn't matter if they are for Lukashenka or against) "demand changes" ...

I remember that there was a lot of talk behind the stands about enti change in the second half of the 80s.
TV shows, newspapers, for a bottle in the kitchen.
everyone also demanded changes.
only, as it turned out, they did not understand what kind of changes were needed.

[ALARI]

It is better to lead the changes yourself, otherwise it may happen that changes can lead you, and it’s good if this happens according to the Ukrainian scenario (hello Rostov-papa), or the Romanian scenario can happen (2 days for the inquiry and the wall).

[Flooding]

I like your optimistic outlook on politics))

[ALARI]

Everything must always be done on time.

[APASUS]

Quote: ALARI

Better to lead the change yourself

Maybe just put this issue to a referendum and invite observers

Quote: ALARI

the Romanian scenario may occur (2 days for inquiry and wall).

There are not even options! The West needs a desert, in the place of Belarus. The option of Ukraine will suit him completely, that's why he has no options, the new democratic authorities will hang him on the first pillar.

[ALARI]

A referendum will not help and will not. There was already an election, then something happened, and only after that Lukashenka with a creak went to amending the constitution. Now he practically backed down. And how to play honestly with such a person. He not only threw the Belarusians, but the Russian Federation with which there were certain agreements in exchange for help.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Corona without virus

my numerous relatives in Belarus (it doesn't matter if they are for Lukashenka or against) "demand changes" ...

I remember that there was a lot of talk behind the stands about enti change in the second half of the 80s.
TV shows, newspapers, for a bottle in the kitchen.
everyone also demanded changes.
only, as it turned out, they did not understand what kind of changes were needed.

Well, people are tired of watching on TV that "Everything is fine, beautiful Marquis" - but in life everything is exactly the opposite (((((((

[Flooding]

Quote: Corona without virus

Well, people are tired of watching on TV that "Everything is fine, beautiful Marquis"

remind me, when was the last time in the history of mankind that the "people" changed something in their life for the better?
an organizing force is needed, capable and able to lead the people and fulfill their wishes
Is there such a thing in Belarus?

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Corona without virus

Well, people are tired of watching on TV that "Everything is fine, beautiful Marquis"

remind me, when was the last time in the history of mankind that the "people" changed something in their life for the better?
an organizing force is needed, capable and able to lead the people and fulfill their wishes
Is there such a thing in Belarus?

There is no such force in the BSSR today ... But there is Lukashenko ... it is with his co-operation that only the laziest one does not have a "Pole's card" in Belarus ... but with a card "the whole world in his pocket" - and that was STATE policy! !! So, most of the citizens of Belarus can be considered "citizens of the world"

[Flooding]

Quote: Corona without virus

But there is Lukashenka ... with his co-operation, only the laziest one does not have a "Pole's card" in Belarus ... but with a card "the whole world in his pocket" - and that was STATE policy !!!

Lukashenka is not sugar, who can argue
rather, a sweetener, if such an allegory is appropriate
but the trouble is, no refined yet

[tatra]

In Russia in October 1917. And here is the counter-revolution of the enemies of the October Revolution, and all their coups d'état on the territory of the captured USSR - ALWAYS only to the detriment of the people. And those who are in Belarus and in Russia, eager to overthrow Lukashenka, are the enemies of their country and people.

[Flooding]

Quote: tatra

In Russia in October 1917

You, apparently, addressed these words to me in response to ea comment

Quote: Flood

remind me, when was the last time in the history of mankind that the "people" changed something in their life for the better?
an organizing force is needed, capable and able to lead the people and fulfill their wishes

do you disagree with the role of the Bolshevik Party?
do you think that the people carried out the revolution on their own accord and on their own?

[tatra]

The parties are part of the people.

[Flooding]

Quote: tatra

The parties are part of the people.

more confusing and weirder
then it turns out that the people of the February carried out?
and the people signed the law on retirement age?

[cmax]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Corona without virus

my numerous relatives in Belarus (it doesn't matter if they are for Lukashenka or against) "demand changes" ...

I remember that there was a lot of talk behind the stands about enti change in the second half of the 80s.
TV shows, newspapers, for a bottle in the kitchen.
everyone also demanded changes.
only, as it turned out, they did not understand what kind of changes were needed.

If you like it when you are dipped in a bucket of shit and they say that you have to be patient, they are about to bring a bucket of clean water and so on for 26 years, then this is your problem. People are tired of waiting, to a ra a u l. tired.

[Flooding]

Quote: cmax

If you like it when you are dipped in a bucket of shit and they say that you have to be patient, they are about to bring a bucket of clean water and so on for 26 years, then this is your problem

I can't even imagine how you feel
please share
and I ask you in advance, do not be offended by my tone
you chose it

[cmax]

Quote: Flood

Quote: cmax

If you like it when you are dipped in a bucket of shit and they say that you have to be patient, they are about to bring a bucket of clean water and so on for 26 years, then this is your problem

I can't even imagine how you feel
please share
and I ask you in advance, do not be offended by my tone
you chose it

I am not offended, I, like you, live in this. I just know about it, but you don’t guess, but you also live in it.
One smart lecturer at a state university recently wrote about Belarus.
"Decent people, it is clear what endless horror is happening in the country now! What lawlessness is being done by those who are duty-bound to protect people! Everyone understands that a military dictatorship is coming in the country according to its blackest scenario, but all that had to be given honestly to hold elections ...... such a small thing for honest people and an insurmountable obstacle for the ministers of lawlessness "
Smart people will understand what is written, but the rest, the people (as Lukashenka said), a glass and crackling are nicer.

[Flooding]

Quote: cmax

Smart people will understand what is written, but the rest, the people (as Lukashenka said), a glass and crackling are nicer.

Well, okay
never aspired to those smart ones that separate themselves from the people
I'll be a fool

[Egoza]

Quote: Corona without virus

my numerous relatives in Belarus (it doesn't matter if they are for or against Lukashenka) "demand changes"

And what exactly needs to be changed (in their opinion) to live better? Or not worse?

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: Corona without virus

my numerous relatives in Belarus (it doesn't matter if they are for or against Lukashenka) "demand changes"

And what exactly needs to be changed (in their opinion) to live better? Or not worse?

But what is worse - every fourth able-bodied Belarusian works in the West or in Russia ?!

Better yet, at least to begin with, it is necessary to decide whether they are for the West or the East? And then Lukashenka wags so much that the people are blowing away the "roof" ...

[Cananecat]

Why change the Constitution if amendments can be made?

[Konstantin Gogolev]

The old man has already approved the voting results. Predictor.

[cniza]

These statements of the President of the Republic of Belarus, as political analysts believe, indicate that he himself does not intend to change anything in the Constitution, but pressure is being exerted on him, because Lukashenka is ready to launch a process that, as he would like, was under complete control.

Yulit Batka, yulit, if only he did not outsmart himself ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

These statements of the President of the Republic of Belarus, as political analysts believe, indicate that he himself does not intend to change anything in the Constitution, but pressure is being exerted on him, because Lukashenka is ready to launch a process that, as he would like, was under complete control.

Yulit Batka, yulit, if only he did not outsmart himself ...

We can say - vigilantly cares

Hello Victor

[cniza]

Good time!

I would say so - this is, of course, their internal affair, but we would not want to have Ukraine 2 close by, we really do not want to ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Good time!

I would say so - this is, of course, their internal affair, but we would not want to have Ukraine 2 close by, we really do not want to ...

Yes. But, in order not to get close ... Russia should not allow any internal affairs to take their course.

[cniza]

So I'm talking about it, and Father again blew out his mustache ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

So I'm talking about it, and Father again blew out his mustache ...

That Putin would be so stubborn And, he selects all the words tolerant, so as not to offend.

[cniza]

I don't even know which is better, because we only see the audience play from both sides ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

I don't even know which is better, because we only see the audience play from both sides ...

Well, of course, unlike us, they have a responsibility ...

[cniza]

Yes, and these are incommensurable things, but Shakespeare is right ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Yes, and these are incommensurable things, but Shakespeare is right ...

How, then remember ... how to keep order, observe the rights and freedoms of citizens, if the government itself neglects the law?

In fact, it would be like this "- says Machiavelli, justifying the lawlessness of the" Emperor "with the prosperity to come. “No, in reality it would be like this,” Shakespeare opposed doomedly to him, plunging the country of the “Emperor” into chaos.

[Ascold1901]

Here's a fix - Change, yes change .... And What to change? I didn’t hear anything intelligible!))) Maybe the hearing is not the same with age, tell me. And so it turns out - Change to change.
All the “revolutions” that the “partners” arrange use this very slogan. (well, similar to the heap).

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Ascold1901

Here's a fix - Change, yes change .... And What to change? I didn’t hear anything intelligible!))) Maybe the hearing is not the same with age, tell me. And so it turns out - Change to change.
All the “revolutions” that the “partners” arrange use this very slogan. (well, similar to the heap).

Well, for the sake of simplicity, change the Laws ... I don't remember how many years ago, but when there was a "bucha" for the next re-election of Lukashenka, 100+ people were detained and issued a jail for 15 days on charges of "standing and silent"))))) ))))) Then he wasted over the protocols))))))))

At the same time, my uncle was issued for 10 days that at the bus stop he was waiting for the bus, cops came and took him for the fact that he - almost literally from the protocol "stood and swayed" - well, he drank a little, but was almost sober, nobody touched, just waited for the bus ... and for 10 days ...

[Ascold1901]

In this particular case, they undoubtedly "went too far" (and strongly). And probably there were many similar cases. When in a country, in any country, "democrats" start to rage, this has always been and will always be. Try to take the place of the same "siloviki" and immediately figure out who is who. On the question "... the accusation" stood and were silent "..." - Fools are everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less.
“Well, for the sake of simplicity, to change the Laws ...” - again, I have not heard specific proposals for what and how to change.)))
To change to change is a monotonous scenario of All these "revolutions".
Is there at least one country where it got better after that?

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Ascold1901

In this particular case, they undoubtedly "went too far" (and strongly). And probably there were many similar cases. When in a country, in any country, "democrats" start to rage, this has always been and will always be. Try to take the place of the same "siloviki" and immediately figure out who is who. On the question "... the accusation" stood and were silent "..." - Fools are everywhere. Somewhere more, somewhere less.
“Well, for the sake of simplicity, to change the Laws ...” - again, I have not heard specific proposals for what and how to change.)))
To change to change is a monotonous scenario of All these "revolutions".
Is there at least one country where it got better after that?

Let's go back 10 years ago - for example)))
Summer, July, morning, + 30 ++ degrees Celsius ... I came to Belarus for two weeks of my vacation with my sister ... I am going to go to the store - well, maximum 100 meters to it - cross the road ... I dress - Hawaiian, self-made jeans shorts, slates on bare feet and a cap - and a card in his hands ... My sister's husband softly asks me to "dress decently" because they will be swept into jail for "insulting morals" I'm shocked ... and he lectures me that in fact it will be so ...

[Flooding]

Quote: Corona without virus

My sister's husband softly asks me to "dress decently" because they will be swept into jail for "insulting morals"

I was advised about the same thing in Soviet times, when I did my morning jog in the village.
and now I think
whether it's about the stale Soviet peasants
or morality has grown fat to indecency and does not fit into old clothes
whether we have become very smart and consider it the norm to climb into someone else's monastery with our shorts

[Alexga]

I will add that in Belarus you can still run into a fine for crossing the street at a red light and for throwing "bulls" past an urn. This is considered bad form.

[Alexga]

What to change?

Well, you asked !!! Now Belarusian protesters will have brain scrapping!

[rocket757]

"And 65 percent of the respondents do not want to change the Constitution": Lukashenko advised the commission on amending the Basic Law

Let's see what they get, agree.

[cniza]

If only they would not be ashamed ...

[rocket757]

And sho bike, he calmed down ... or he was reassured, encouraged!

[cniza]

The old man still cannot fully believe that all this is reality and that he can be moved ...

[rocket757]

He had a mustache himself, of course, and could have sung in his ear.

[cniza]

So many years in power - vision loses its sharpness, like hearing ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

vision loses its sharpness, like hearing ...

So sometimes / often, a close whisper is more audible than a scream / voice from the side.

[cniza]

At the moment, he does not hear anyone at all and shakes everyone up ...

[rocket757]

I did not stand nearby, because all the assumptions, then fortune-telling on the coffee grounds.

[cniza]

Of course, these are our assumptions and we make them, seeing the development of events ...

[rocket757]

When events are conducted by such a ... special conductor, things can happen in ... different ways.

[cniza]

So he is also a composer and partly a musician ..

[rocket757]

Noble potato grower, machine operator and much more.

[cniza]

Oh, what a valuable specialist, let him be useful ...

[rocket757]

Let him just stay within the limits of his competence, this is important.

[Alexga]

what they will reach, they will agree.

Yes, here it is more important in what form the referendum will be held, if, as before, by separate points, then something will be changed, and if everything was done as was done in the Russian Federation, then the changes will not be adopted.

[rocket757]

Here, here, what are the goals and objectives of the butt will pursue ???

[Kushka]

Well, if you're so smart, can you explain to me a fool, where did they put my money for 20 years of pension taxes?
[i] [/ i] But there was no need to be greedy!
When the Lord created everyone, he assigned each one for 25 years.
Here is a horse hunched over a couple of years and begged - throw it off,
says ten, I can’t pull it. And the Man says - give me, give.
The dog tapped out a couple of fierce winters with his teeth and prayed -
Throw off a dozen, I beg you, I will not make it. And Man - give me, give me.
Monkey from tree to tree, and eat a little - two
years from hand to mouth, hands to knees - throw off a dozen, rheumatism
I will not hold out. And man - give me, give me.
Now Man lives -
the first 25 years - OWN - full of health, for pleasure.
then horse years pass - builds a house, feeds, raises a family,
drags the cart, the bones are already cracking.
then the dogs go - bickering mother-in-law-father-in-law-daughter-in-law, wife nags,
brothers, sisters - an inheritance, the overgrown children have "teeth cut through."
and finally the monkeys - they are blind, toothless, their lip is hanging down - they are sitting on the bench,
and the grandchildren grimace and the blowers show.

[Alexga]

[quote] Declaring preparations for amendments to the Constitution, the President of Belarus pointed out that “the current Constitution has not exhausted itself.” [Quote] So nothing really needs to be changed there. Of course, it is imperative to abolish the neutral status of the state, maybe something else is also needed to redistribute the rights and responsibilities of the branches of government. The rights that President Lukashenko had to entrust to another President, I would not risk it. But as for the election to parliament by party lists and the limitation of two terms of the presidency, then immediately NO. This is a simple tribute to Western fashion, for the Slavic society this is unacceptable, in my opinion.

[New Year day]

Where does the number 65 come from? Naked?

[Ascold1901]

Of course, the "dad" froze stupidity.)))
"... according to a large-scale sociological survey, more than 65% of its participants ..."
An interesting statement.)))
When and Who conducted the survey, what were the questions, who processed ...
Any "polls" are complete nonsense. It came to mind - “If you ask the questions correctly, you will get the necessary answers!” © and “How much will 2x2 be? Do we buy or sell? ”©

[demo]

Power is ABSOLUTE evil.
Having once tasted all the "delights" of power, a person is addicted to this drug.
Having come to power once, a person cannot give it up. Lukashenko is a good example.