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The first unrest and the first losses in Donbass in 2014

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First blood



On March 13, 2014, first blood was shed in Donetsk, marking the beginning of the conflict between Donbass and Ukraine, which continues to this day.

The detachments that arrived in Donetsk, armed with fittings and cold weapons nationalists tried to hold a rally in the city center. However, something went wrong. And the angry public dealt with the provocateurs with the same methods that they usually used against opponents. In the process of the massacre, a spokesman for a local cell of one of the nationalist parties died from a knife wound. Who exactly sent the admirer of Tyagnibok and Farion to the next world, no one tried to find out - chaos reigned in the country. And the Russian spring began in Donbass.

The provocations began on February 23, when the Berkut returned to the city, whose employees were greeted as heroes. Crazy grandmothers with Shevchenko on their lips and hot young men in scarves of football teams accompanied every rally, behaved defiantly.

However, after March 13, Ukrainian provocateurs no longer appeared at public events. Moreover, during the massacre, law enforcement agencies were not too eager to protect the nationalists.

Soon after the arrest of the SBU Pavel Gubarev, a real uprising broke out in Donetsk, to which the Ukrainian special services were unable to respond. Regular seizures of the regional state administration followed, culminating in the final dispersal of the Ukrainian authorities on April 6, 2014.

Ferment of minds


Unfortunately, having seized power in Donetsk, the rebels suddenly realized that there was no clear understanding of further action. Representatives of the regionals visited the seized regional state administration, Tsarev flickered (there is even a photo showing the ex-battalion commander of the Donbass nationalist battalion Semyon Semencheko near the rostrum), emissaries from the junta appeared.

Even Rinat Akhmetov himself attended, urging the rebellious Donetsk residents to compromise with the "European integrators" who had usurped power. Citizens regularly appeared in the stands, advocating a conciliatory position and talking about federalization. Many of them, in particular, for unclear reasons, are still wiping around near the government offices.

The first militia was a combined hodgepodge: monarchists, nazbols, leftists, anarchists, neo-pagans, romantics, believers in the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic (DKR), etc. There was no clear understanding of how to live after the victory over the APU. And it was not the time to theorize ...

However, this ideological forshmak, multiplied by the grievances and ambitions of the commanders and their supporters expelled from the republics, as well as a whole galaxy of politicians, plus the disappointment that many experienced when they did not find themselves in the People's Militia, or in connection with the prolonged uncertainty of the status of the LDNR, gradually led to split.

Today in the republics, especially in the DPR, there is no unity either among the "elites" or among the politicized population.

It was not in vain


You can understand the disappointed ones - the freemen of the militia and the Cossacks were either disarmed, or forced to march and turn the APU one or the other cheek.

The restoration of the monarchy or the construction of socialism turned out to be unclaimed. Social justice or the reconstruction of the DKR did not take place. Even economic prosperity in the face of Ukraine was not achieved.

Instead of romance and utopian allusions - Minsk Santa Barbara, bureaucracy and a standard of living that does not reach even the most depressed regions of the Russian Federation. It is clear that for those who risked their lives in 2014 or even just tore a vest on the Internet, this is often not enough.

On the other hand, it is sometimes even joyful to realize the restrictive role of curators.

If it were not for her, the multidirectional enthusiastic passionaries could well have established a local civil conflict in the LPNR. And in the name of their motley ideals to drown in blood those who survived the shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Skirmishes based on ideological differences (often conveniently concealing bickering over access to financial flows) have repeatedly arisen in the republics. And the struggle for power (especially in the DPR) is obvious. Moreover, we are not talking about a weak-willed opposition, but about quite high-ranking persons who are actively playing into the hands of Kiev for the sake of their mercantile interests or ambitions.

At the same time, one should not even try to deny that all these years the LPNR is like a bone in the throat for Ukraine.

We acknowledge that the local population is insured against LGBT propaganda and other European values. Protected from revisionism and fascist propaganda. It is gradually integrating into the Russian Federation and sooner or later will become a full-fledged part of it. That children in the republics will grow up as Russians, and not as migrants or tolerant fans of eugenics and racial superiority of Grytsya over Ivans.

And if so, it means that everything was already not in vain.

Quintessence


In fact, it does not really matter which slogans were used by certain citizens to defend Donbass. The main thing is that the banner was the same for everyone. And even if instead of the tricolor someone sees a hammer and sickle or any other symbolism, this is not really important.

Not only because it is necessary to perceive the fatherland not in individual aspects and moments of its existence and being, but as a whole. And also because we stood up as a united front and stand irreconcilably against one and the same enemy - against fascism.

And anyone who, for the sake of their interests, will try to manipulate this dogma and devalue the spilled blood, or, worse, try to collaborate, is an enemy and a non-human being.

Blood has been shed and many more will be shed. But this did not happen in vain.

Yes, in comparison with the comfortably assimilated Crimea (in which the heroes of a three-day vigil at checkpoints do not get tired of hanging orders on each other), Donbass has become a sacrificial lamb.

Paid for everything and everyone.

And, even worse, it continues to pay.

However, I want to believe that all this will not only return a hundredfold. (For Russia, which will receive millions of loyal citizens. And for Ukraine, which will see its end in this conflict). But it will also awaken those sentiments that, since the second half of the 90s, it was customary, if not to spit, then at least skeptically deny - courage, patriotism, self-sacrifice.

And finally, the Motherland.

And for this blood is not a pity, honestly.

So it was not in vain that that person died in Donetsk on March 13, 2014. And everyone who died after him. And everyone who is dying today. And everyone who dies later.

Donbass pays with a lot of blood, its own and someone else's, for cleansing. But it's worth it.
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  1. Normal ok
    Normal ok 17 March 2021 18: 08
    +11
    As a result, we see that some oligarchs (by the hands of duped people) dealt with other oligarchs. People suffer and the oligarchs, until now, make money on it ((
    1. Machito
      Machito 17 March 2021 18: 19
      +12
      I sincerely hope that Akhmetov will answer for stopping the offensive on Mariupol in 2014.
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 17 March 2021 18: 23
        +5
        Quote: Bearded
        I sincerely hope that Akhmetov will answer for stopping the offensive on Mariupol in 2014.

        You need to answer not only Akhmetov, but also Kolomoisky and Deripaska, and others. Who is still buying coal from the Donbass mines for a penny, then sells it for real money to the west.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 17 March 2021 18: 43
          +7
          Donetsk and Luhansk are lucky that they are close to Russia and they were not allowed to be run over or killed.

          But they were unlucky that they were helped to a minimum, stopped and not allowed to advance and release.

          We're out of luck quite, even a little bit: we were ignored, and the emboldened gangs of thugs who came from Kiev killed, maimed, arrested by the SBU, dispersed everyone, and someone fled ...
          1. Kronos
            Kronos 17 March 2021 20: 38
            +2
            It is a pity for those killed, but it would not have been better if they had helped in the damage of Donetsk. Even worse would be living now economically.
            1. Civil
              Civil 18 March 2021 06: 59
              0
              Blood was spilled ... but no one got better.
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 18 March 2021 10: 21
            +4
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            Donetsk and Luhansk are lucky that they are close to Russia and they were not allowed to be run over or killed.


            What are you talking about, Kharkiv resident?
            Do you have geography, or conscience not okay?

            Kharkiv - border of the Russian Federation - 34 km. Donetsk - Russian border - 61 km ...



            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 18 March 2021 15: 16
              -4
              Quote: Insurgent
              Are you in a bad way with geography or your conscience?

              In vain, you, sly Ukrainian, who put on the avatar of the militia and squint under the DNR, are trying to hurt and provoke me!

              MORE reasons for you to immediately complain and snitch on me to moderators and admins, I will not give you!

              Fuck you, you wicked and dishonest little man!

              And my conscience and mind much more than yours!
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 18 March 2021 18: 49
                +1
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                Fuck you, you wicked and dishonest little man!

                And I have much more conscience and intelligence than you!


                "Do not boast, but pray to God!"God is merciful, will forgive you foolish.
          3. Insurgent
            Insurgent 18 March 2021 10: 29
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            We were not lucky at all, even a little: we were ignored, and the emboldened gangs of thugs who came from Kiev killed, maimed, arrested by the SBU, dispersed everyone, and someone fled ...



            And for us, is THIS (video) made by the "green men"? Against the same gangs who have come in large numbers?

            No, we did it ourselves. We found the will in ourselves, did not merge ...

      2. kenig1
        kenig1 17 March 2021 20: 11
        +1
        Will those who stopped this offensive respond?
      3. vladcub
        vladcub 18 March 2021 12: 40
        +1
        I doubt it very much. The current authorities of the LDNR exist only thanks to V.V., and we do not offend oligarchs
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 March 2021 18: 15
    +8
    To be honest, this is a continuation of the Great Patriotic War. Not finished off all the fascists and their lackeys. So you have to pay in blood. And in war, as in war, it is enough to pretend that this is a petty misunderstanding. Can't you see how this tangle is twisting more and more, especially over the past 5 years.
    And the impudence of this utyrka, who pretended to be the president of an ukroreikh, has been going through the roof lately. Usually they get so impudent when some of them tune in, and another, cultured and polite comrade, tries to resolve the issue peacefully. And when this insolent person is tapped on his face, the ambition immediately diminishes.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 17 March 2021 21: 42
      +8
      Quote: Ros 56
      To be honest, this is a continuation of the Great Patriotic War.

      The Second World War was not only against fascism, it was also for a bright Socialist or Communist future. If we forget about it, then our grandfathers died in vain, it means we did not support the continuity of generations, then we live in vain
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 19 March 2021 12: 14
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      To be honest, this is a continuation of the Great Patriotic War.

      pretty idiotic thesis.
      But it fits well with the maxim of Zilbertrud that the Great Patriotic War was civil war... Congratulations.
  3. Odysseus
    Odysseus 17 March 2021 18: 37
    +8
    The question is, of course, a serious one. If you remember that people wanted at least to secede from the Maidan Ukraine, and as a maximum to form a people's democracy, to expel the oligarchs, etc., then I must say frankly, people died in vain. Tell them in 2014 that with their lives they would embody the KPP to cover Crimea and the agreement with the West, moreover, the disastrous KPP, they, of course, would not have gone to all this.
    But who knows what this will ultimately turn out to be. Perhaps it will be the first step towards the liberation of Russia itself. Then it will be holy blood ...
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 17 March 2021 21: 45
      +1
      what is HPP ???
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 17 March 2021 22: 45
        +8
        Quote: aybolyt678
        what is HPP ???

        Putin's Cunning Plan is an ironic name for the exirses of the Genius Geopolitician. It has been known since 2014.
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 17 March 2021 18: 55
    +13
    As a "master of the pen" - the author continues to talentedly cover the KSP. Egor is a professional.
    In fact - Turkey openly, with flags and armored vehicles, defended its own in Cyprus and Idlib. And neither Putin nor Biden is a decree.
    The "Kremlin" was not capable of this. So Yegor is scribbling mythical opuses about a hypothetical quarrel between "nazbols" and "monarchists" in Donbass.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 17 March 2021 20: 53
      -5
      And you remember a little that not everyone in Donbass was eager to secede from some kind of Ukraine, and in general, there was no struggle against Nazism at first. The fact was that they overthrew President DONETSKY, put in the Zapadensky one. this is not Crimea, that I went to the Outskirts as orphans, under Yanyk Donetsk was rebuilt with a bang, in the Russian Federation and there is no such stadium, for example, as in Donetsk. Therefore, at first it was all perceived as another fight between the oligarchs, but here - two are fighting, the third is not going to get involved, his own people are losing. It was not in vain that the author remembered Semenchenko, and indeed, most of the Nazibats were formed in the East, all the Aydars-Azovs-Donbass. You HPP in the form
      Quote: samarin1969
      with flags and armored vehicles, defended their own in Cyprus and Idlib.

      do you need? But don't you want to get the whole Donbass, which would have fought against the Russian invaders? And it would be so! This is not Crimea, there was half of the region in the camps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for mobilization - and there were much less deviators than in the Carpathians - we went to defend it, yeah, it was
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 17 March 2021 21: 10
        +1
        I don’t need to remember. I voted in the referendum in Crimea and talked with the guys from Donbass. Russia's support in Donbas in the spring of 2014 even exceeded Crimea. So come up with a more sane training manual. Donbass is more worthy to become a region of the Russian Federation than many of its subjects. Well, in Crimea there were people more hostile than Kostya Grishin or Akhmed Zakayev.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 17 March 2021 21: 24
          -4
          No need to sculpt a hunchback, were they more hostile in the Crimea? Who went to the Federation Council from the Crimea, do not remind? It was then he fled to Kherson, and so everyone without exception was for the Russian Federation, and the woodpecker did not steal right away, now he was not in Kherson, but in the Federation Council. But the Donbass National Battalions - here they are, there are no Crimean ones. And even without the invasion of troops - there are many of them. And there would be an invasion - in general, everyone who was then in the camps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - would go to fight, and the gangs would not be heels, as now, but many dozens.
          He was in the Crimea. In Crimea, in the mid-90s, a referendum was on the adoption of Russian citizenship, and in Donbass there was nothing close
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 18 March 2021 07: 15
            0
            Once you nod at someone, do you sound surnames or are you scared, "lover of truth"?
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 18 March 2021 11: 16
              -2
              Memory maiden?
              Resignation question appointed April 4 and. about. Deputy Prime Minister of Crimea Lenur IslyamovDeputy Lentun Bezaziev, who oversees the issue of settling repatriates, proposed to be included in the agenda of today's meeting of the State Council.

              This is in 6 years only
              On Thursday, the Supreme Court of Crimea found former Deputy Prime Minister of the Republic Lenur Islyamov guilty of sabotage, organizing an illegal armed group and public calls for extremism, sentencing him to 19 years in a maximum security colony.
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 18 March 2021 11: 24
            +3
            Quote: Cowbra
            But the Donbass National Battalions - here they are, there are no Crimean ones.

            Had it happened in Crimea according to our scenario, there would have been nazbats there too. And Bandera and Crimean Tatar.
            You have no idea what the national battalions "from Donbass" were like at that time, you don't know who they consisted of.
            And for example I know ... For example, "Abelmaz", a geek from "Tornado", unfortunately my fellow countryman, a bandit on whom there was no place to put the stigma even before the war. And there were 100% of them in the Nazis.
            Will you deny that there were / are such marginals in Crimea? Probably not.
            Another thing is that on the peninsula, these groups did not have the opportunity to clump together and act.

            But nevertheless, outside the Crimea, such groups were heavily noted. And here in the DPR-LPR and during the blockade of the peninsula ...
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 18 March 2021 12: 20
              -3
              Crimea immediately flooded for the department, there it is long ago. There could not have been a Donbass option, remember yourself - were you called subhumans under Yanyka, Yushcha? But the Crimean - very much even - "in connection with the pro-Russian sentiments in the Crimea, it is necessary to enter there a division recruited from real Ukrainians - from Western Ukraine" (c) -2008, beekeeper.
              But in Donbass, remember yourself, even when the Russian flags were hung up - no one yelled about any accession to Russia - right? Right. Now tell yourself, as a local - here's an army in the Donbass - what would have happened. And the army rushed in - there will be any kind of war, and these will be corpses. The dog is with him, that this is Semenchenko's hydrocephalus, then he was an ordinary Donetsk huckster, but it would be - the corpses of our Donetsk people. and killed them - not ours, not Donetsk. There are both, and at that time it was not that equally, but not as in the Crimea - 90% for the Russian Federation. I myself was in Marika at that time, I remember. Before the shooting on May 9, they somehow didn’t really pull on dill, although they were not particularly happy about the mess
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 18 March 2021 12: 29
                +2
                Quote: Cowbra
                But in Donbass, remember yourself, even when the Russian flags were hung up - no one yelled about any accession to Russia - right? Right.


                Lies.

                March 9, the slogan - "Russia!" Can not hear ?



                You, either a little knowledgeable person who only writes something, or a liar - a provocateur.

                Understand yourself, WHO YOU are ... Then write.
                1. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 18 March 2021 12: 35
                  -3
                  What, then voted for joining? At first there was a question of the CU or the EU. I don’t remember the vote at first for secession from Ukraine and entry into the Russian Federation. Federative Ukraine - it was. Participation in the CIS was. There was never a question about secession or entry into the Russian Federation in 2014. even under Slavyansk and already shot Marika. Did not have. And Crimea was already Russian for a long time, still there was no question about Donetsk as part of the Russian Federation
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 18 March 2021 12: 45
                    +3
                    Quote: Cowbra
                    What, then voted for joining? At first there was a question of the CU or the EU. I don’t remember the vote at first for secession from Ukraine and entry into the Russian Federation.


                    I understand your level of awareness and understanding of the essence yes After all, it happened / is happening for you - "Somewhere"...
                    And I am here, in the thick of cooking.
                    And who, if not me, should know (especially since I was an observer at the referendum) how and what happened.

                    And it was like this:

                    - There were no questions from the CU or the EU (where did you get this nonsense at all?)

                    - what you are "don't remember", does not mean that this was not the case. At the referendum, the question of the secession of the regions from the Okrug was unambiguously raised.



                    Another thing is that the question of joining the Russian Federation we were not allowed to include in the list of questions, RIGIDLY ODYORNUV from Moscow ...
                    1. Ruslan Sulima
                      Ruslan Sulima 18 March 2021 15: 21
                      +1
                      And it was like this:

                      - There were no questions from the CU or the EU (where did you get this nonsense at all?)

                      - the fact that you "do not remember" does not mean that it did not happen. At the referendum, the question of the secession of the regions from the Outskirts was unequivocally raised.


                      But they really believe that both us and the krychan were led to the vote at gunpoint ... Obviously, this did not happen in their heads in 7 years, everything was hammered much earlier ...
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 18 March 2021 16: 10
                        +3
                        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
                        But they really believe that both us and the krychan were led to the vote at gunpoint ... Obviously, this did not happen in their heads in 7 years, everything was hammered much earlier ...

                        This is true and true for the outskirts, but the catch is that Cowbra , apparently - a forum member from Russia and it seems not the most stupid, but even he has a fog of ignorance before his eyes ...
                      2. Ruslan Sulima
                        Ruslan Sulima 18 March 2021 16: 24
                        +1
                        This is true, and true for the outskirts, but the catch is that Cowbra, apparently, is a forum member from Russia and it seems not the stupidest one, but even he has a fog of ignorance before his eyes ..

                        You know, at times it becomes so offensive, well, you pancake cook in our life, then reason! I do, well-badly, as best I can. But none of the neighbors will say that I forgot the grave, which appeared at 14. On leave, when I am, hi-hi, how are we going to be there? and other inquiries. People see where the truth is ...
                      3. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 18 March 2021 16: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan Sulima
                        You know, at times it becomes so offensive, well, you pancake cook in our life, then reason!

                        That's why I wrote:

                        Quote: Insurgent
                        You, either a little knowledgeable person who only writes something, or a liar - a provocateur.

                        Understand yourself, WHO YOU are ... Then write.
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 18 March 2021 14: 29
          0
          Such people should not be taken prisoner.
  5. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 18 March 2021 12: 23
    0
    Quote: Cowbra
    there is no such stadium in the Russian Federation, for example, as in Donetsk.

    laughing laughing laughing The trouble, however, was that in the heat of the moment he did not notice that he screwed up. Well, nothing happens. yes
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 18 March 2021 12: 27
      0
      Hmm? Gasbomzh-arena, chtol? Donetsk was exactly in the top five in Europe, you will find a stadium with heated stands in the Russian Federation - tell me, porzhu
  • K150
    K150 17 March 2021 21: 09
    -2
    Quote: samarin1969
    As a "master of the pen" - the author continues to talentedly cover the KSP. Egor is a professional.
    In fact - Turkey openly, with flags and armored vehicles, defended its own in Cyprus and Idlib. And neither Putin nor Biden is a decree.
    The "Kremlin" was not capable of this. So Yegor is scribbling mythical opuses about a hypothetical quarrel between "nazbols" and "monarchists" in Donbass.

    Well, yes, we see how the Ottomans squeal after every point-u, which burns another refinery with bearded friends of the Ottomans. And they can't do anything.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 17 March 2021 21: 22
      +4
      For them, they are consumables.
  • iouris
    iouris 17 March 2021 19: 11
    -8
    The goal of the publication is to negatively affect the morale of those who heroically and stoically oppose the Nazis, while the distant red army is fighting in the rear with no one knows who.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 17 March 2021 21: 48
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      The task of publication is to negatively influence

      the task of the publication is to remind us that we are one people, and for something we are ashamed.
    2. German Titov
      German Titov 18 March 2021 06: 36
      +4
      The task of the publication is to remind about yourself with the next "Machian" nonsense. I actually live in Donetsk.
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 17 March 2021 19: 31
    +5
    The trouble is that the first blood was shed in Kiev. Finish to blame already from a sore head to a healthy one)!
    Although, what to hide the truth, it was noble that we gave them luli ...
    1. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 17 March 2021 22: 41
      0
      Although, what to hide the truth, it was noble that we gave them luli ...

      I will add a little to the fans to shout about the Strelka, the Russian trace.
      We beat them, Donetsk. They beat me hard so as not to create illusions. It didn't help, I had to cook ...
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 17 March 2021 21: 25
    +6
    "Yes, in comparison with the comfortably assimilated Crimea (in which the heroes of a three-day vigil at checkpoints do not get tired of hanging orders on each other), Donbass has become a sacrificial lamb."
    Well, let's face it, Duck - Russia was mainly interested in Crimea.
    The rest is rather a distraction operation.
    All these trends / moods on the mainland (especially not news to anyone). In the Russian Federation, no one was particularly fiercely going there.
    Although go-grandmother to cut in the Russian Federation, yes!
    Since the margin is based on the difference in rates ... I myself once did this.
    I earned it there, brought it here / changed it. Here's the money! ..
    So, something like this ...
    1. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 17 March 2021 22: 06
      +4
      I earned it there, brought it here / changed it. Here's the money! ..
      So, something like this ...

      You are right in many ways. Even during the defense of the Regional State Administration in Donetsk, he said prepare for war. What are you doing, We are like Crimea, everything is class,!
      Of those who laughed, 90 percent are no longer alive. From time to time I intersect with the rest under a glass, remind of that conversation, listen in response that it is not worth stirring up the past ...
      Why am I? These remaining 10% are already so motivated that they will tear with their hands ...
    2. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 18 March 2021 01: 29
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      Well, let's face it, Duck - Russia was mainly interested in Crimea.
      plus it was real and at times easier to implement, thanks to the presence of OWN garrisons, military units !!!
  • Intruder
    Intruder 17 March 2021 22: 43
    0
    Yes, in comparison with the comfortably assimilated Crimea (in which the heroes of a three-day vigil at checkpoints do not get tired of hanging orders on each other)
    well this is so cute ...:

  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 18 March 2021 05: 14
    +3
    Russia, except for the purchase of muddy personalities and the deriban with the closure of those enterprises that remained, is not in a position to give Donbass anything, the Ukrainians and the EU will certainly not begin to improve their lives. So it turns out that a black hole can exist for decades.
    1. Ruslan Sulima
      Ruslan Sulima 18 March 2021 11: 47
      +3
      Russia, except for the purchase of muddy personalities and the deriban with the closure of those enterprises that remained, is not in a position to give Donbass anything, the Ukrainians and the EU will certainly not begin to improve their lives. So it turns out that a black hole can exist for decades.

      This is what the conversation is about, although with some amendments, some enterprises are working quite successfully. And the fact that the fate of Transnistria was prepared was clear from the beginning. But I could not surrender to those scum that ironed my city with aviation and art, and even now I cannot.
      I'm not talking about the Victory with the capture of Kiev, let them live as they want, deserve it. Victory for me is the world at my home ...
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 18 March 2021 10: 40
    +4
    All true.
    The buffer zone was formed, the interests of Gazprom were defended, enthusiastic volunteers were fused, the image of an external enemy was created, and year-round tension was established.

    And that the Blood has been shed and is being poured, people began to live worse, fascism and nationalism are raising their heads, lies bloom in the media and the Internet - so the oligarchic authorities do not care.
    It's even better for them.
  • Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad 18 March 2021 13: 41
    0
    It's time to close the entire Outskirts project.
  • AAK
    AAK 18 March 2021 21: 38
    +1
    A small remark for the citizen Makhov, at the expense of comfortably settled down and hanging orders on each other for "three days of standing at checkpoints" Crimeans.
    Hundreds of guys from our militia arrived in Donbass with Strelkov at the end of March 2014, when there was still no local militia, and herds of fat-faced "victims" in jeeps rushed into the Crimea from Donetsk, Gorlovka and the great Makeyevka in droves ... my former colleagues died there at the beginning of May 2014 for a very nasty reason, the valiant Donetsk guys surrendered their DRGs even before they entered the raid ... "Makhnovshchina", it is one thing to die for the homeland or for a just cause, another - for the selfish interests of local "Buratin"
  • 23424636
    23424636 19 March 2021 18: 58
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    The author blurred the state of affairs in Donbass, threw first blood and made enemies of the oligars. Where do you live at all? My point of view on this is as follows. There is the Kalmius river along it in 1742 a border was laid between the Great Don Host and Sechevik-strokes, signed by Empress Yelezaveta Petrovna. So this border passed until 1920, when Stalin created an education in Yuzovka from parts of the Yekaterinoslav province .Lands of the Donskoy troops. Kharkiv province - Donetsk region. Now the border of the confrontation between the republics and Ukraine runs along this river, turning from Gvardeisky towards Bezimenny, and in the Starobeshevsky district, the whole of Donetsk goes along the Maryinka under the militia. the base of the division is a royal decree. . which, alas, retained its strength conditionally. Those. In fact, this is the land of the Great Don Army, which is in no way recognized by either the Moscow chiefs or the local authorities. The Russian spirit is truly here. As for the details. Donbass is a pledge for the non-entry of Ukraine into NATO. For the territory of the republic is partially lost. And what about the pledge? With restraint. The potential of Donbass, even in a curtailed form without Mariupol and Kramatorsk, is sufficient to live without grieving. But the children of Lieutenant Schmidt (Kurchenko and KO) put on the farm in the republics by the Kremlin have destroyed everything that was alive there and continue to pay salaries to miners and miners by 15% for November 20 of the year. But all the same, this land is alive. Works and studies and they hope that the approach to the resources of the region and its industrial production will change. The climate here is a unique summer for 5 months, peaches and grapes. The sea is warm nearby. Sprat fish at 35 rubles per 1 kg. Bread and cereals. But sometimes it's noisy and most importantly, the checkpoints with both Ukraine and Luhansk are closed (paradox) To come from Ukraine to Donetsk -18 thousand rubles back there. But if there is no registration, even relatives are not allowed. This is annoying and annoying, but everything is already frayed and shaken.