German Navy will be replenished with American P-8A Poseidon patrol aircraft

The German Navy will be replenished with American Boeing P-8A Poseidon patrol aircraft. The US State Department has tentatively approved the sale of five basic patrol aircraft to the German Defense Ministry.

On March 12, 2021, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) sent a notice to the US Congress about the possible upcoming sale to Germany of five basic Boeing P-8A Poseidon patrol aircraft.

The delivery will take place through the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program of intergovernmental foreign military sales, the cost of five aircraft, including a full set of equipment and training and technical support packages, will amount to $ 1,77 billion. Armament is not included in the delivery.

American "Poseidons" should be replaced in the composition of the sea aviation FRG patrol aircraft Lockheed P-3C CUP + Orion, purchased from the presence of the Netherlands Navy and which are supposed to be written off in 2024 due to the depletion of the resource.

P-8A Poseidon - a new generation patrol anti-submarine aircraft, created on the basis of the Boeing 737-800 passenger airliner. The aircraft is equipped with an AN / APS-137D (V) 5 airborne radar station and the AN / APY-10 radio intelligence system. In the internal compartment of the armament there are sonar buoys designed to detect submarines at great depths, free-falling and depth bombs, as well as Mark 54 torpedoes. Sidewinder air-to-air missiles (designed to protect the aircraft themselves) can also be mounted on the outer pylons of the aircraft and anti-ship missiles Harpoon.

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[cniza]

The American Poseidons are to replace the Lockheed P-3C CUP + Orion patrol aircraft in the FRG naval aviation,

It looks like a deal ... there is a trade for S.P. 2

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: cniza

trade for S.P. 2

Hardly.
It's just that old planes are written off as decrepit, new ones are bought instead. Nothing unusual.

[WHAT IS]

Quote: Jacket in stock

they buy new ones instead.

I agree, and very good in terms of performance characteristics.

[bayard]

Very good. And there are more and more of them in NATO countries, which is not very good for our submarine fleet.
But we have not heard anything, neither about the modernization of the IL-38 with the Novella-M complex, nor even more so about the creation of new PLO aircraft.
No helicopters, and even ways to upgrade the existing ones.
... As well as about AWACS aircraft ...

[Pete mitchell]

the Germans have long been talking about the need to replace the P-3 and the choice is obvious: the P-8 is a good device and there are more and more of them near the Russian Federation, which is not good

[Aerodrome]

German Navy will be replenished with American P-8A Poseidon patrol aircraft

for the Baltic, nothing good ...

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Aerodrome

for the Baltic, nothing good ...

Probably not only for the Baltic: this machine is easy to integrate into modern systems and Europe is actively growing with them: the Britons, the Germans, Italians are thinking, well, the Amerov planes in Europe. This is a decent headache that must not be let out of sight.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Aerodrome

for the Baltic, nothing good ...

Probably not only for the Baltic: this machine is easy to integrate into modern systems and Europe is actively growing with them: the Britons, the Germans, Italians are thinking, well, the Amerov planes in Europe. This is a decent headache that must not be let out of sight.

I'm in that plan. that they will "lock" our submarine tightly ...

[tralflot1832]

And what will they find in the Baltic and North Seas? Except for the poop of Europe, nothing!

[Pete mitchell]

These guys run anywhere, good car.

[Scharnhorst]

It looks like a deal ... there is a trade for S.P. 2

This can be seen with the naked eye. It was reported that the Germans offered a billion Americans to leave SP-2 alone. You can't just give an international BRIBE !!! The pandemic and accidents severely crippled Boeing. So the Germans get the illiquid assets in their hands. The Poles would have been burdened too, but those pennies don't have much. And so if you figure out that they need all this to search for the only submarine of the DKBF? Don't tell my slippers!

It's just that old planes are written off as decrepit, new ones are bought instead. Nothing unusual.

Something old "Tornado" will not be replaced by F-35, not from "Boeing".

[Piramidon]

Quote: Scharnhorst

So the Germans get the illiquid assets in their hands.

The aircraft is quite modern and in demand.

[Galleon]

Moreover, this aircraft takes on board 9 tons of weapons, has a combat radius of 3700 km and "hangs" in the air for 10,5 hours without refueling, and also has an AN / ALQ-18 electronic countermeasure station. More details here https://topwar.ru/99433-poseydonov-skoordiniruet-minotavr-totalnaya-protivolodochnaya-oborona-ssha-stanovitsya-umnee-i-opasney.html
This is the kind of aircraft that Russia needs to have.

[mvg]

I understand that in the Baltic we have as much as one and a half Halibut pr 877 in the payroll ... what is there to catch then?
But Poseidon is a noble car, the best in its class. We have nothing close to. Competitors are the Japanese and, in the near future, the Chinese.

[Alien From]

Unfortunately this is the case.

[postum]

Well, in general, the Germans seemed to be trying to cooperate with the French on the topic of a new patrol aircraft at the base, some kind of airbus. But it is clear that something did not grow together, that even the news came out that the main French developer was kicked out http://www.opex360.com/2021/03/06/dassault-aviation-setonne-detre-ecarte-de-maws-le -projet-franco-allemand-davion-de-patrouille-maritime /