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Austerlitz military fashions: the Russian imperial army

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A still from the film "War and Peace" (1965–1967). The battle scenes and the uniforms of the soldiers of the Russian army are shown very well, including during the Battle of Austerlitz. But there are still few grenadiers in the scenes. More and more musketeers. But, nevertheless, soldiers in shakos meet with "fat sultans".


Always studying history from the position of our today's post-knowledge, I would like to say:

"And it should be like this."

But what is not, that is not.

The past cannot be changed. And everything that was there, including military clothes, can be studied, but in no way changed!

“But pantaloons, tailcoat, vest,
All these words are not in Russian ... "

"Eugene Onegin" (Ch. 1, XXVI) A.S. Pushkin

Greatest battles in history. Last time, we left the heroes of our story (three emperors-generals) preparing for the battle of Austerlitz.

But in order to win or, conversely, to lose, they did a lot in advance. And, in particular, they took care of what and how their soldiers would be dressed.

And this is not an idle question. Because military affairs do not tolerate inconveniences. Troops, especially in powder smoke, must be clearly distinguishable. Not to mention the fact that in that distant and completely wild time, people believed that the uglier you were dressed for battle, the better. That is, to paraphrase a well-known saying, it is quite possible to say that in the world in red, even death is red!

Austerlitz military fashions: the Russian imperial army
Chief officers of the Preobrazhensky Life Guards Regiment in uniforms of the early 1802th century. The uniforms of the Russian Guard 1805-18. A set of 2008 postcards. State Memorial Museum of A.V. Suvorov. SPb, XNUMX.

Well, now for one more important note.

It is difficult to say why it so happened, but in practice all Russian tsars, starting with Peter I, were downright obsessed with uniformism.

That is, they constantly dressed and changed their soldiers in different uniforms, changed their hats, sultans, and laces for them. And all right, all this would be aimed at reducing the cost of military uniforms. Not at all. Although individual attempts along this path have sometimes been undertaken.

Most importantly, almost more money was spent on all these "reforms" than on weapon.

In fact, the "blunt-strap" service in the Russian imperial army was not a military one. Because almost none of the kings really engaged in combat training in it.

So, for training in shooting, soldiers at the beginning of the 10th century were given 120 live cartridges ... a year. Not a day, not a month, but a year! The gamekeepers were given XNUMX rounds a year. But only those of them who had fittings, and there were very few of them. However, we will talk about the tactics on the Austerlitz field later.

In the meantime, we will focus only on the uniform of the fighting. And let's start, first of all, with the army of Alexander I.

And he began his reign with reforms ... uniforms



[center] Junior non-commissioned officer and regimental drummer of the Life Guards Preobrazhensky Regiment in 1802 uniform. The uniforms of the Russian Guard 1802-1805. A set of 18 postcards. State Memorial Museum of A.V. Suvorov. SPb, 2008.

Moreover, he was concerned with the reform of the uniforms of his army a year after his accession to the throne.

So to speak, he promised to rule according to the behests of his grandmother Catherine the Great. And as he promised, he did so: he introduced a new uniform in the army that somehow combined elements of modern fashion with the fashions of Catherine's times.

Already on April 30, 1802 there was

A new report card regarding uniforms, ammunition and "rifle things" for the entire Russian imperial army was confirmed by the highest,

very seriously changed its appearance.


Non-commissioned officers of the Life Guards of the Jaeger Battalion in uniform 1803. Uniforms of the Russian Guard 1802–1805. A set of 18 postcards. State Memorial Museum of A.V. Suvorov. SPb, 2008.

The soldiers received tailcoat uniforms and fashionable high collars. And the shoes were replaced with knee-high boots.

The gamekeepers received hats with a high crown and brim, very much like civilian top hats.

But for the soldiers of the line infantry, the headdress was a leather helmet with a double-headed eagle and with a high plume-caterpillar made of horsehair across this helmet. The back of the helmet was adorned with a colored splint. And as a result, it became similar to the headdresses of the so-called "Potemkin uniform" of 1786-1796.

Outwardly they were beautiful. But at the same time they are so impractical that already in 1804 they introduced “hats” of the 1803 model and 4 ½ inches in height, which were sewn from black cloth. Two blades were sewn to them from the inside and replaced the headphones that were used in the cold.

The "hat", which became the prototype of the future shako, had a visor of patent black leather, a cylindrical shape and a black cockade with an orange stripe in a circle with a copper button in the center. And a little higher - colored "thistle". On the face, the cap was held by a chin strap. Officially, this headdress was called

"Musketeer cap".


Privates of the Life Guards of the Jaeger Battalion. The uniforms of the Russian Guard 1802-1805. A set of 18 postcards. State Memorial Museum of A.V. Suvorov. SPb, 2008.

The hat of the grenadiers was exactly the same. But it was additionally decorated with a brass pomegranate right above the visor and a magnificent black sultan and a downright frightening size, while the musketeers had white tassels with a colored center instead of sultans on their hats. The sultans on the drummers' hats were red. And the uniforms had white chevrons on the sleeves and shoulder "porches".

Uniforms in the latest fashion



Musketeer 1805-1806 From the book: “Drawings of uniforms and banners of the Infantry of His Royal Highness the Prince of Prussia. From 1805 to 1843

On the shoulders of both the privates and the officers of the line infantry were shoulder straps, which, however, the rangers did not rely on.

The uniform was double-breasted with two rows of brass buttons and a uniform cut, which is for the line infantry - grenadiers and musketeers, which is for the rangers. And it was sewn of dark green cloth. He was girded with a white leather belt in the line infantry, where all other belts were also white, and black for the rangers. Moreover, the huntsmen had a black leather cartridge case attached to their belly. Whereas the musketeers and grenadiers wore it on their side. And the grenadiers adorned it with four grenades in the corners. And in the guard there is also the star of St. Andrew in the center.


Chief Officer. From the book: “Drawings of uniforms and banners of the Infantry of His Royal Highness the Prince of Prussia. From 1805 to 1843

The pantaloons were supposed to be white. Cloth - in winter. And from "Flemish linen" - in the summer with a flap in front, fastened with buttons. Moreover, pantaloons were worn tucked into boots. The rangers had their trousers in a green uniform color and also tucked into their boots, which, of course, was very convenient.

But the officers' tailcoats were longer.


The officers had a very practical uniform: a green tailcoat uniform with tails that were longer than those of the privates. And gray hiking trousers, sewn between the legs in black leather. Together the belt is a scarf. On the head - an impressive size bicorn hat (it is not for nothing that in the battle of Austerlitz the French riflemen will be given the command to aim at large hats), decorated with a cockade and a black plume.

Non-commissioned officer hats were trimmed with galloon.

The grenadiers of the guards regiments differed in the color of collars, cuffs and shoulder straps. In addition, in the guards regiments there are three stripes on the cuffs of galloon, buttoned up.

Non-commissioned officers (unlike privates) had a white top on the Sultan with a longitudinal orange stripe, a halberd, a soldier-style sword, and also had a cane with them to punish negligent soldiers.

The drummers of the guards regiments had orange chevrons and buttonholes on the chest, as well as red sultans.


Drummer 1805-1806 From the book: “Drawings of uniforms and banners of the Infantry of His Royal Highness the Prince of Prussia. From 1805 to 1843

The Horse Guards wore white tunics (even cuirassiers were not given cuirasses for some reason at that time), high helmets made of pump leather with a chased forehead with a star and a small comb, which, however, was adorned with a lush hair "caterpillar".

The uniforms of the dragoons and artillerymen were green, of the same cloth as the rangers or line infantry. Hiking trousers - gray, lined with leather. They wore them over boots.


Fireworks (non-commissioned officers) of the cavalry company of the Life Guards Artillery Battalion. The uniforms of the Russian Guard 1802-1805. A set of 18 postcards. State Memorial Museum of A.V. Suvorov. SPb, 2008.

Guards foot artillerymen wore the uniforms of the guards infantry.

But the guards horse artillerymen are dragoon uniforms, but with a black collar and cuffs, also decorated with guards embroidery.

An additional difference in ranks in the cavalry was the hair plumes on helmets: white with a black ending for officers, black with a white ending and a longitudinal orange stripe for non-commissioned officers. The black "caterpillar" was worn by privates. The musicians had red. And by a red one with a white ending and an orange longitudinal stripe, they distinguished the headquarters trumpeters.

The dragoon regiments, like all the others, were distinguished by colored collars, cuffs on the sleeves, and shoulder straps. And more ... horse saddlecloths!


Trumpeters of the cavalry company of the Life Guard of the Artillery Battalion. The uniforms of the Russian Guard 1802-1805. A set of 18 postcards. State Memorial Museum of A.V. Suvorov. SPb, 2008.

And a long-sleeved greatcoat


The overcoat for all privates relied on gray cloth with a colored collar and shoulder straps in the color of the uniform. It should be worn belted with a uniform belt, fastened with seven copper buttons. Moreover, her sleeves were long, with slouching on her hands. And she herself is free and also quite long. The removed overcoat was worn in the form of a roll over the left shoulder. An officer's overcoat differed only in that it was with a cape.

Interestingly, although the high miter of the previous reign was abolished, they continued to be worn. In particular, the Pavlovsky infantry regiment operated in them on the Austerlitz field.

The most elegant was, as usual, the uniform of the hussar regiments - each regiment had its own.

Although the hiking pantaloons were all the same, gray or fawn, fastened on the side along the seam with buttons. All wore colored mentics and dolman. However, the shako was unified with the infantry. Although they had a differently arranged sultans.

The most variegated uniforms were the Cossacks. However, the Cossack Guard, which arose under Catherine, and was considered a regular army formation, wore a strict uniform: a soldier's greatcoat, a dark blue chekmen, a red half-jacket and blue trousers over boots. Their fur hats with a red blade and twisted tassels were very spectacular, as well as a small plume of feathers, the color of which the privates were distinguished from the non-commissioned officers (the black and orange top of the sultan).


"War and Peace" (1965-1967). Prince Bagration and Andrei Bolkonsky walk in front of the musketeers in order to lead them in the attack on the French.

In general, it is this uniform of the Russian army that can be described as the most comfortable, practical and appropriate for its purpose.

Of course, you can dream a little.

And ... in an alternative reality, you can put a little more intelligence into the head of Alexander I. So that he put all the infantry in a green jaeger uniform. He took off the stupid sultans from the "musketeer caps". From the helmets of the cavalry - thick "caterpillars". And he also dressed cuirassiers and cavalry guards in green and gave them cuirasses.

But what was not, that could not be.

The only pity is that in the future, the development of uniforms under Alexander, and then Nicholas followed the path of her increasing service and stupid decoration.

But this was already the trend in military fashion.

And our kings were very greedy for her.

To be continued ...
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 21 March 2021 04: 46
    +11
    Very unexpectedly, and all the more Pleasantly Pleased with the continuation of yesterday's article! My Son and I collect "tin soldiers" - precisely from the period of the Napoleonic wars! As soon as he wakes up - we will carefully consider all the pictures!
    Many thanks, Vyacheslav Olegovich! good The theme of Russian uniforms is not fully shown, but the theme of the uniforms of Napoleon's army. - this is generally a LOT of articles !!! We are looking forward to the continuation with great interest! Article to favorites !!!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 March 2021 05: 00
      +11
      Greetings, Alex! hi
      It turns out that window dressing has a long tradition)). Moreover, as far as I understand, she was sinned by all the monarchs of that time, not only Russian
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 21 March 2021 05: 08
        +10
        Hi Albert hi You saw my soldiers, and so the Russian soldiers (with the exception of individual regiments) still looked rather modest in comparison with the soldiers of the Napoleonic army. Well, the Officers, especially the highest ones, are another story altogether!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 05: 25
          +9
          Interestingly, was the level of training in shooting among the French, Prussians, Britons and Austrians the same?
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 21 March 2021 05: 41
            +12
            Here you asked a very "voluminous" question what come on in order: the Russians had the best (faster-firing and large-caliber artillery, remember the Unicorn - the French have lighter and accordingly mobile).
            Small arms are about the same level. Regarding the units of the "Snipers" of that time - Jaegers, I don't remember the data at a glance, I'll unsubscribe later. Our Horse Archers (Kalmyks and Bashkirs) - Precisely led laughing had no analogues good
            The Russians were the best masters of bayonet fighting, which received special attention in the Russian army.
            1. kalibr
              21 March 2021 07: 36
              +6
              Quote: Hunter 2
              The Russians were the best masters of bayonet fighting, which received special attention in the Russian army.

              This cannot be said about Austerlitz, but there will be a separate article about it.
              1. Alien From
                Alien From 21 March 2021 07: 43
                +9
                Dear Vyacheslav Olegovich! Thanks for the article, informative and interesting! We are waiting for the continuation hi
              2. Dmitry Maximov_2
                Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 16: 37
                -7
                Under Austerlitz, the French utterly defeated the Russians through superiority in firefight.
                1. kalibr
                  21 March 2021 16: 40
                  +5
                  Quote: Dmitry Maksimov_2
                  Under Austerlitz, the French utterly defeated the Russians through superiority in firefight.

                  This is the first time I come across such an interpretation, although I have read ... a lot of things on this topic. And on what basis do you have such a conclusion?
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                    1. kalibr
                      21 March 2021 22: 05
                      +2
                      Quote: Dmitry Maksimov_2
                      I advise you to read less murziloks)

                      This is not the source. "Lying like an eyewitness"! There are many such memoirs from the French side. But they don't talk about much.
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                      2. TooL
                        TooL 22 March 2021 12: 39
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                        And what is the source? You never answered ... Is your personal opinion the authoritative source? laughing
                      3. TooL
                        TooL 22 March 2021 12: 42
                        -2
                        Apparently the opinion of all combat soldiers and officers is nothing compared to the opinion of Slavik from the Internet smile
                        http://www.reenactor.ru/ARH/PDF/Zmodikov_01.pdf
                2. Pushkaryov
                  Pushkaryov 3 May 2021 23: 28
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                  At the expense of MANEVER!
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 21 March 2021 15: 21
              +3
              That is, the French also did not particularly teach the bulk of the soldiers to aim fire from rifles?
              1. Dmitry Maximov_2
                Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 16: 40
                -5
                They taught. Austerlitz is proof of this.
                https://fligel-rota.ru/library/articles/vospominaniya-popadicheva-1805-god/
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            4. saigon
              saigon 28 March 2021 15: 17
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              It seems like the French had a gun a bit longer than ours.
          2. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 21 March 2021 07: 16
            +9
            On November 9, 1796, from the Jaeger teams of the Semenovsky and Izmailovsky Life Guards regiments, as well as from the Jaeger company of the Gatchina troops, the Life Guard Jaeger Battalion was formed. The baptism of fire of the rangers was the battle of Austerlitz. In May 1806, the battalion doubled in size and became known as the Life Guards Jaeger Regiment. Bennigsen, reporting to the Tsar about the case with s. Lomittene, wrote: "The Life Guards Jaeger Regiment acted so well that it drew the surprise of the whole army."
            By the Patriotic War of 1812, the Russian army had 2 guards (Jaeger and Finnish) and 50 army Jaeger regiments. Army Jaeger regiments were divided by numbers. Jaeger regiments took part in all battles of the 1812 campaign.
            The Russian Army was armed with weapons produced in England and Russia - of a higher quality than the French.
            Interestingly, the Jaegers also took part in attacks and bayonet battles, although as you can imagine, the Jaegers' main purpose was different. Conclusion: the Russians were also leading according to the Huntsmen.
            1. kalibr
              21 March 2021 07: 34
              +7
              Quote: Hunter 2
              Interestingly, the Jaegers also took part in attacks and bayonet battles, although as you can imagine, the Jaegers' main purpose was different.

              Threaded fittings were used by 16 people per company. The rest have ordinary, albeit shortened, rifles with ordinary bayonets!
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 21 March 2021 08: 11
                +8
                The rest have ordinary, albeit shortened, rifles with ordinary bayonets!
                And those were chronically lacking. In 1812, guns were taken from the dragoons to arm the militia.
                Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
                1. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 21 March 2021 08: 22
                  +7
                  Greetings Anton. A lot of weapons were just sure at Austerlitz, the Tula factories simply could not cope with the release. British weapons were purchased in large batches. But, honestly did not you hear that the dragoons were disarmed? The dragoon choke did not have a bayonet - what was the point? Yes, and Dragoon (professional Military) - as a combat unit clearly superior to the militia.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 21 March 2021 08: 39
                    +6
                    Good morning, Aleksey!
                    For the militia, and the dragoon carbine "wunderwaffle" was, on "fishless" -that ... 15 years after the war of 1812, the long-barreled dragoons were returned, bringing the regiments into corps, but shortly before the Crimean campaign they were again taken away, already forever, disbanding the corps back to shelves. The argumentation of the last transformation is enchanting. I don't remember exactly, but something like: in view of the danger of the defeat of large cavalry masses by enemy fire. That is, they felt sorry for the horses, and the little people - women still give birth.
                    1. Hunter 2
                      Hunter 2 21 March 2021 08: 57
                      +7
                      Well, weirdos in Russia - there were always a lot of things fool
                      The Jaeger Regiments were also abolished in 1856, being transferred to the regular infantry. Oh, these "military reforms" ...
                      But for the life of me, I don’t understand Dragoon - equally trained to fight both on horseback and on foot, he became an ordinary light cavalryman. I will definitely look for materials on this topic.
                      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 10: 14
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                        Quote: Hunter 2
                        But for the life of me, I don't understand Dragoons - who were equally trained to fight both on horseback and on foot, he became an ordinary light cavalryman. I will definitely look for materials on this topic

                        In the English tradition, dragoons were referred to as heavy cavalry, in the Russian - to heavy, later to medium.
                        Interesting are the reforms of Nicholas the First, who tried to create an "expeditionary corps" of 15 thousand people with an artillery park and pontoons on the basis of dragoon and jaeger teams. Alas, in the 40s it was considered expensive and abolished.
                      2. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 21 March 2021 12: 16
                        +7
                        Vlad, of course, needed to put things in order in the cavalry, to carry out some kind of "unification", that's just the Regular Cavalry!
                        Guards: 2 cuirassier, 1 dragoon, 1 hussar and 1 lancer regiments of 5 squadrons, 1 Cossack in 3 squadrons, 2 hundreds of Cossacks; a total of 6 regiments (28 squadrons and 2 hundred), 5308 people and 4416 combat horses;
                        Army: 8 cuirassier regiments of 5 squadrons - 949 people and 727 combat horses, 36 dragoons with 5 squadrons - 955 people and 727 horses, 11 hussars and 5 lancers, 10 squadrons - 1825 people and 1432 horses. A total of 60 regiments, 380 squadrons, 71 men and 172 combat horses, in addition 54 reserve squadrons.
                        Now I will also write an irregular one.
                      3. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 21 March 2021 12: 26
                        +7
                        It's even more complicated here wink your head can be broken ... what
                        In the irregular cavalry there were 80 Don, 10 Ural and 2 Nogai regiments, 5 hundred and 578 people: 10 Black Sea, 3 Bug and 2 Danube regiments, 5 hundred and 501 people; Astrakhan regiment of 5 hundred and 6 separate teams; Orenburg - 1074 people; 5 settled Caucasian regiments and 3 detachments of varying strength; 10 five-hundredth regiments, 552 people each and 4 separate hundreds of 425 people of Siberian line Cossacks. A total of 124 Cossack regiments and smaller units of 73 people. Then 000 Teptyar and 2 Bashkir regiments of 2 hundred and 5 people, 518 Kalmyk and 4 Tatar regiments of 4 hundred and 5 people, 578 Tunguz and 1 Buryat regiments of 4 hundred and 5 people and the Mozdok mountain team. In total, the irregular cavalry has 500 regiments and 141 detachments, about 3 people. In addition, the Siberian border and city Cossacks of 90 people, irregular indigenous Caucasian and Siberian units, Kyrgyz.
                    2. Ryazan87
                      Ryazan87 22 March 2021 10: 45
                      +1
                      Jaegers were abolished back in 1833 (although the names remained until the Crimean one). They, in fact, were not much different from the usual infantry. As always, the mass character went to the detriment of quality.
                    3. TooL
                      TooL 22 March 2021 12: 43
                      -3
                      It was not the rangers who were abolished, it was the entire infantry who were transferred to the rangers.
                2. Ryazan87
                  Ryazan87 22 March 2021 10: 43
                  +1
                  The argumentation of the last transformation is enchanting. I don't remember exactly, but something like: in view of the danger of the defeat of large cavalry masses by enemy fire. That is, they felt sorry for the horses, and the little people - the women still give birth.

                  The dragoon corps were disbanded, since when fighting on foot (and he was considered the main one for the dragoons), a herd of 10 horses was formed in the immediate rear, which was considered dangerous.
                  The argumentation is not "enchanting", but quite rational.
            2. Richard
              Richard 21 March 2021 14: 20
              +10
              He was girded with a white leather belt in the line infantry, where all other belts were also white, and black for the rangers. The grenadiers had four grenades in the corners. And in the guard there is also the star of St. Andrew


              Buckle grenadier Alexander I

              The buckles of the guard at that time differed in rank
              general's

              officer

              soldier's
              1. Richard
                Richard 21 March 2021 14: 22
                +10
                The buckles of the Life Guards of Alexander I differed from those of the Guards by the presence of Lictor hatchets
                1. Richard
                  Richard 21 March 2021 14: 29
                  +7
                  Moreover, the huntsmen had a black leather cartridge case attached to their belly. Whereas the musketeers and grenadiers wore it on their side. And the grenadiers adorned it with four grenades in the corners. And in the guard there is also the star of St. Andrew in the center.


                  the museum photo clearly shows the ears for sewing on the Andreev's star to the guards ammunition bag.
                  That's just a question. Was this decoration practical? It looked beautiful at parades. And in battle?
                  1. kalibr
                    21 March 2021 15: 41
                    +5
                    What wonderful photos, dear Richard! Just shine!
                  2. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 10: 06
                    +4
                    What wonderful photos, dear Richard! Just shine!

                    Yes, our good friend, as usual, uploads good materials. drinks
                    On the cuirasses, it looks like there was some kind of mess:

                    1. Private of the cavalry regiment in full dress, 1805.
                    During the reign of Paul I, the cavalry guard wears a white cuirassier uniform with double-cornered hats and red supervests - a kind of vests with silver galloon lining and a Maltese cross (in 1799 Paul proclaimed himself Master of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem). Under Alexander, the uniform of the cavalry guards became the same as that of the army cuirassiers, but with guards buttonholes on the collar and cuffs (pay attention to the old-style buttonholes) and images of the "guard star" on the saddlecloths and tires of olsters.
                    2. Non-commissioned officer of the Little Russian cuirassier regiment, full dress, 1805.
                    Typical cuirassier uniform with non-commissioned officers' distinctions: the front part of the plume on the helmet is white with an orange stripe bordered in black; galloons on the collar and cuffs (non-commissioned officers lowered the upper edge of the leggings so that the stripes on the cuffs were visible); and a non-commissioned officer's cane, which was often hung by a loop from the button of his uniform. Non-commissioned officers did not rely on carbines, but they carried bullet-bag ammunition bags with a sling over their left shoulder. According to the statutory requirements, the lanyards for the broadswords of non-commissioned officers relied on a soldier's model, but with tassels made of a mixture of black and orange threads. However, some sources show non-commissioned officers' brushes in squadron color. At large parades, it was still necessary to powder the hair (braid and temples).
                    3. Officer of the Smolensk Dragoon Regiment, full dress uniform, 1805.
                    Shown is the 1803 Dragoon uniform - a new double-breasted tailcoat-style uniform, but still light green. On the helmet there is an officer-style plume, shoulder straps - with galloon plating, as prescribed by the officers. An officer's scarf is a uniform pattern for the entire army. Boots under the knee, without boots, like a cuirassier. Heavy and medium cavalry officers were supposed to be clean-shaven; the braids were preserved, the hair was powdered in the usual form - at the discretion of the officer, as one of the eyewitnesses wrote, “the hair was in an indescribable condition, and their bodies, when they were in the bath, were swarming with parasites ... everything is the same, that the Russian peasant, that of the prince ; they are all equally barbarous ”- a rather bilious characteristic!
                  3. Ryazan87
                    Ryazan87 22 March 2021 10: 52
                    0
                    Well, they are all from the same forum, but the signatures to them, to put it mildly, are inaccurate.
              2. Ryazan87
                Ryazan87 22 March 2021 10: 51
                +1
                The buckles of the Life Guards of Alexander I differed from those of the Guards by the presence of Lictor hatchets

                The meaning of the phrase is unclear, but it is a sapper buckle. And axes are of much more practical value.
            3. Ryazan87
              Ryazan87 22 March 2021 10: 49
              0
              Buckle grenadier Alexander I

              This is a squadron of ranks of the grenadier artillery.
              soldier's

              It's a drummer's yarn.
            4. Alien From
              Alien From 22 March 2021 22: 26
              +3
              Excellent photos and knowledge you have in this matter! good
          3. Dmitry Maximov_2
            Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 16: 52
            -3
            The guns were taken from the dragoons to be handed over to the militia. And the huntsmen had enough guns with their heads. Dragoons are heavy cavalry that fights in line formation, as opposed to light cavalry, which fights in loose formation.
        2. Dmitry Maximov_2
          Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 16: 46
          -6
          Not ordinary, but chasseurs' rifles, which had increased combat accuracy. In addition, the rangers were given 120 charges for training in marksmanship. The target was the silhouette of a man.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 March 2021 15: 24
        +5
        Russians are wonderful human material for a fighter. The question is how this training is carried out ..
      3. Dmitry Maximov_2
        Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 16: 34
        -7
        Now the soldiers are also running into the bayonet, and so what?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 18: 03
          +7
          Quote: Dmitry Maximov_2
          Now the soldiers are also running into the bayonet, and so what?

          ?? laughing
          Well, if a stoned battalion goes to the squad, then you can - so someone will run.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 21 March 2021 19: 01
            +6
            Albert! hi
            Haven't you figured out yet that this is another "evil dwarf"?
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              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 21 March 2021 19: 10
                +6
                Funny, and most importantly - original! And reflects your intellectual level.
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                2. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 21 March 2021 19: 25
                  +7
                  You are brainless, amigo. I can answer you at the level of your mentality, but not on this resource.
                  If you want "purely concrete boy graters", come to St. Petersburg in a year, by that time I will restore my right hand.
                  In the meantime, baslite for free ...
                3. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 37
                  +8
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  You are brainless, amigo. I can answer you at the level of your mentality, but not on this resource.
                  If you want "purely concrete boy graters", come to St. Petersburg in a year, by that time I will restore my right hand.
                  In the meantime, baslite for free ...

                  Such a specialist can be knocked down with the left. Or, rather, a specialist - more than one man will not express the size of the opponent's dignity.
                  This is an aunt, not an uncle. Or Uncle, playing for another team, is not stuffed with such arrows)).
                4. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 21 March 2021 19: 44
                  +5
                  Albert! hi
                  Well, I understand my abilities in this or that weapon. In this connection, I propose a choice.
                5. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 45
                  +7
                  " - And she?
                  - Didn't come "(c) laughing
                6. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 21 March 2021 19: 53
                  +6
                  It became funny. What if this person comes to the TT to be measured?
                  And it’s not that I don’t have any practice, I shot from this bag once ...
                7. Liam
                  Liam 21 March 2021 19: 58
                  +3
                  Calm down ... everything will end with the waving of the keyboards on both sides.
                8. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 20: 00
                  +4
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  It became funny. What if this person comes to the TT to be measured?
                  And it’s not that I don’t have any practice, I shot from this bag once ...

                  With RPG 7 he will come
                  On his Cullian laughing
                9. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 21 March 2021 20: 09
                  +5
                  I didn't even care.
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  • kalibr
    21 March 2021 21: 41
    +2
    Quote: Dmitry Maksimov_2
    Midget in your pants

    Dmitry! It is unacceptable to write such things here. You are breaking the rules of the site.
    1. TooL
      TooL 22 March 2021 12: 44
      -2
      That is, it only works with one goal? It's funny ..
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 33
    +4
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Albert! hi
    Haven't you figured out yet that this is another "evil dwarf"?

    Hello Anton! hi But he knows what he is writing lol
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 21 March 2021 19: 37
      +6
      Like "Tatra" ...
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 43
        +7
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        Like "Tatra" ...

        Enemies of bayonet attack, cowardly pretending to be grenadiers ... laughing
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 19: 47
        +5
        Do not flirt.
        There are enough fools here.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 51
        +5
        Oh ... and neighing? ))
      4. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 20: 31
        +4
        You can't! About the holy speech!
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  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 10: 53
    +2
    that this is another "evil dwarf"?

    I thought you would say that about me! laughing But I also have a belly and a propeller! drinks
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    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 40
      +6
      Quote: Dmitry Maximov_2
      How do you know, spetsnaz mamkin?)

      From the same source with you - lectures at the military department of the Institute of Cutting and Sewing named after Alexandra Gray. fellow
      1. Dmitry Maximov_2
        Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 19: 47
        -8
        Self-critical. But you shouldn't project your problems onto me.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 54
          +4
          Are you talking about the effectiveness of a bayonet attack on a modern battlefield? laughing
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 21 March 2021 19: 58
          +15
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Are you talking about the effectiveness of a bayonet attack on a modern battlefield?

          Bullet stupid, bayonet well done! wassat drinks
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        4. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 20: 52
          +6
          Do you understand the difference between a bayonet attack and an attack under cover of dashes? laughing
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        6. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 21: 03
          +3
          And what did you bring me? laughing
          A table on the nature of the wounds of 1812 as an argument for the modern use of the bayonet attack? ))
          Where did you serve in the army, specialist? lol
          Bayonet attack - a unit runs to enemy positions, trying to take them as quickly as possible, thereby minimizing losses from small arms, entering close combat, where its use was less effective.
          Modern ground attack - with a second dash, under the cover of the fire of comrades from the unit and the fire support squad (if any), you get to the enemy positions. You unfold in a chain ten meters away - the main weapon is a firearm)))
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        8. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 22: 06
          +5
          I wonder what Freud would say about the understatement you constantly use as an insult - size, age, and so on? what
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        10. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 23: 13
          +6
          Is the understatement of the size of male primary sexual characteristics of your other opponent also a statement of what he has seen? ))
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        12. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 23: 52
          +4
          Except for your psychoanalyst, this is "all the same" laughing
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        14. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 March 2021 00: 45
          +5
          Well, there are few such obvious guys from your community on VO, so we expect the excitement - welcome to the site fellow
        15. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 10: 56
          +4
          Well, there are few such obvious guys from your community on VO, so we expect the excitement - welcome to the site

          Albert, it looks like I missed the fun part - character comments removed. wink Did he project his Freudian complexes onto you and Anton? laughing judging by your answers?
        16. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 March 2021 12: 25
          +2
          Oops ... either a woman or a gay guy
        17. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 12: 50
          +2
          Oops ... either a woman or a gay guy

          An entertaining magician? wink I see, he managed to screw up half of the branch, even Vera and Vladklub got it - at least in some way they are one. laughing drinks
      2. TooL
        TooL 22 March 2021 12: 47
        -3
        You missed how you let your classmates down laughing
        Did he project his Freudian complexes onto you and Anton?

        Rather, they were projecting their complexes ...
      3. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 12: 52
        +1
        You missed how you let your classmates down

        I see, the master of logging in does not disaccustom himself to poke unfamiliar people?
      4. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 22 March 2021 12: 52
        +2
        Oh, hello again! fellow laughing
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 22 March 2021 00: 38
    +7

    This "gold" has surfaced a lot lately. Don't waste your time. hi
  • TooL
    TooL 22 March 2021 12: 49
    -1
    And rightly so, if you have nothing to say - shut up, maybe you will pass for a smart one laughing
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 22 March 2021 13: 18
    +2
    Quote: TooL
    And rightly so, if you have nothing to say - shut up, maybe you will pass for a smart one laughing


    hi
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    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 40
      +6
      Quote: Dmitry Maximov_2
      P.S. Tell this to those who stormed Amin's palace, ignoramus.

      And there was a bayonet attack or a standard attack of the building, eh, special? lol
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        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 22: 02
          +4
          Quote: Dmitry Maximov_2
          There was a bayonet attack. And what is a standard attack on a building, only Mamkin's commando knows laughing

          A graduate of the military department of the Institute of Cutting and Sewing named after the multi-worker Alexandra Gray does not know what an attack in a built-up area is? lol
          Dash, cover with fire, open corners, etc.
          without hostages (or "friendly peaceful") a grenade and all that is more heavily used, with the presence of such - no fellow
        2. Dmitry Maximov_2
          Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 22: 56
          -3
          And how is this different from a bayonet attack? Exactly the same closefight at extremely short distances.
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 23: 16
          +3
          laughing
          Well, yes, absolutely the same thing - "open the corner" and race with a gun at the ready))
        4. Dmitry Maximov_2
          Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 23: 33
          -3
          Just slightly different specifics. Well, mercenaries / contractors are just more careful. For example, in the Second World War, they rushed with a gun to the advantage, without all these tricks. No one spared the soldiers then.
        5. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 23: 52
          +4
          You just need to understand what it is about repeat
        6. Dmitry Maximov_2
          Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 23: 58
          -4
          I perfectly understand what it is about, but you are trying to juggle. It looks as silly as possible.
        7. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 March 2021 00: 48
          +4
          Invisible place when entering the premises? wink
  • kalibr
    21 March 2021 07: 25
    +9
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Interestingly, was the level of training in shooting among the French, Prussians, Britons and Austrians the same?

    Approximately the same. The standards were the same. And guns ...
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 March 2021 07: 32
      +5
      French guns were still inferior to English and Russian, although not much.
      1. Dmitry Maximov_2
        Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 16: 48
        -7
        These French guns were more accurate than Russian ones. But the Russians, thanks to the tapered seed hole, had a higher rate of fire.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 21 March 2021 15: 30
      +6
      Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich! That is, by and large, the battle of that time was a prolonged massacre with the use of artillery and personal weapons at the first stage of the clash.
      1. kalibr
        21 March 2021 15: 41
        +4
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich! That is, by and large, the battle of that time was a prolonged massacre with the use of artillery and personal weapons at the first stage of the clash.

        How to get to the description of the battle itself - read how it was ...
      2. Dmitry Maximov_2
        Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 19: 46
        -6
        A long gunfight, not a massacre. Read Clausewitz, Khatov, Denis Davydov, Bujot and others.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 50
          +3
          Quote: Dmitry Maximov_2
          A long gunfight, not a massacre. Read Clausewitz, Khatov, Denis Davydov, Bujot and others.

          I read Suvorov - the bullet is a fool, the bayonet is great .. fellow
          1. Dmitry Maximov_2
            Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 20: 40
            -6
            So I read badly ..
            "Kareys among themselves the intervals for the fires of the cross are best observed; but they also observe their fire, both artillery and musket. A musket has 100 rounds. For musket (fire) there is a large position of company riflemen. Infantry fires open victory, a bayonet digs into square, saber and dart complete the victory and pursuit. "
            Suvorov A.V.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 21 March 2021 20: 49
              +6
              Well? Whats up? After the shots, the massacre
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              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 March 2021 21: 00
                +3
                How where is the prolonged massacre? laughing The breakthrough of the square was carried out with a bayonet attack after a volley of cannons and rifles, then the enemy was crushed by the cavalry, the fleeing was struck with sabers and darts - a massacre after several volleys.
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              4. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 March 2021 21: 58
                +2
                What a few minutes - crowd to crowd with melee weapons is a few minutes? laughing Even if they fled and were pursued by the cavalry, it was still a prolonged massacre.
                Shootout from close range (ie "cartridges", such as shells were, yeah laughing) a few days? With a dense line of shooters ??
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              6. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 March 2021 23: 11
                +3
                Not, of course. "The fighter's hand is tired of stabbing" (c) request
                Shootout from a distance of 300-400 steps?
                Is it 200-300 meters in meters? When was the last time you fired a real assault rifle on the shooting range?
                Maybe from the redoubts they were shooting at the approaching enemy, and not by deploying an "infantry line"? laughing
              7. Dmitry Maximov_2
                Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 23: 28
                -4
                Do you study history solely from metaphorical statements? Or is it all your knowledge of this era?
                200-300 meters was quite a common range for infantry fire at the time. The charter of 1811 required training in shooting at 120 fathoms, for 250 meters:
                http://adjudant.ru/regulations/1811-infantery-00.htm
                And where is the bayonet training in the charter? Oh she's not there belay winked
                But in battle, taking into account various factors, poor fire training and projectile hunger, they demanded to shoot no further than 250-300 steps.
                It will be a revelation for you, but in the Russian army in 1811, jaeger regiments accounted for almost 1/3 of all infantry regiments. But this was not enough, often soldiers of the line were also sent to the rifle chain. During the war, companies of the best riflemen were formed in each line battalion:
                http://www.reenactor.ru/ARH/Drill/Russ_skirmish_Drill_1818.pdf
                Napoleon generally demanded that the entire first line of infantry be scattered into the arrows.
                In short, I do not intend to teach you basic knowledge for nothing, from you 2000 rubles for the time spent repeat
              8. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 March 2021 23: 51
                +3
                250 meters was very effective shooting - especially when standing, with a very "light" weapon lol
                Once again - when was the last time you fired at a distance of 200 meters while standing? Even from the knee and with modern weapons, this is not the most accurate shooting.
                2000 rubles? And where will I get such an amount? laughing
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              10. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 22 March 2021 00: 50
                +2
                The battles took place on the parade ground.
                Was the battle with the Kabardians also held on the plain? laughing
              11. TooL
                TooL 22 March 2021 12: 51
                0
                Another stupid question, I'm not even surprised ..
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 24 March 2021 14: 02
            +2
            2000 rubles? And where will I get such an amount?

            In Krasnodar from a bank account laughing Are the shekels already over? laughing
          3. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 24 March 2021 15: 34
            +1
            Exactly the opposite)))
  • burigaz2010
    burigaz2010 22 March 2021 10: 30
    +3
    Hmm Zeus Carbine is awake!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 March 2021 12: 57
      +1
      Reborn and, like Phoenix, rose from the ashes fellow
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 21 March 2021 16: 17
    +5
    You saw my soldiers
    And I did not see ... crying
  • YOUR
    YOUR 21 March 2021 07: 40
    +6
    Not only monarchs. As a new Minister of Defense comes to us, he begins reforms ... with uniforms.
    Now it is clear where this is coming from.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 March 2021 07: 42
    +6
    Do you want to say that there were "sewing troops" already then? laughing
  • Catfish
    Catfish 21 March 2021 13: 13
    +9
    Hello Albert! hi
    The earliest and first comments clearly show who does not suffer from a hangover in the morning. laughing
    As for ostentation, then - yes, the whole human race sins with this, and not only in the armed forces.
    It's just that in the army this is probably easier. drinks


    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 March 2021 13: 25
      +8
      Konstantin hi Why did you add two Hollywood clowns to two worthy people in different senses? belay
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 21 March 2021 13: 43
        +7
        Lyosha, hello. smile
        There are only three main characters. One of them is a cannibal, the second is a schizophrenic, I have no information about the third. Which one of them did you have in mind as worthy? laughing
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 21 March 2021 13: 45
          +8
          laughing in the third photo there are two Hollywood actors and a frame from the movie The Dictator!
          Compared to Gaddafi and Bokassa, they are completely unworthy people.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 21 March 2021 13: 55
            +8
            I do not think that these actors, perhaps not bad at all (I have not seen the film), had a desire to stand on the same board with the cannibal Bakassa. request
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 21 March 2021 13: 59
              +6
              Quote: Sea Cat
              I do not think that these actors, perhaps not bad at all (I have not seen the film), had a desire to stand on the same board with the cannibal Bakassa. request

              At the same table - They would definitely be afraid to sit down laughing ... but the characters are still of different levels!
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 21 March 2021 14: 10
                +7
                I agree that an individual with a pathology and a normal person are individuals of definitely different levels. yes
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 11: 32
                  +3
                  I agree that an individual with a pathology and a normal person are individuals of definitely different levels.

                  .... and licked his lips like the Emperor Bokassa on "sugar pork" .... laughing drinks
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 22 March 2021 13: 01
                    +3
                    "And immediately drank" (c)

                  2. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 14: 00
                    +5
                    "And immediately drank" (c)

                    Newly minted pioneer Jean Bedel Bokassa views the Soviet pioneer in Artek as an edible pioneer. lol
                  3. Catfish
                    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 11
                    +4
                    Well, this blockhead could hardly cope with our PionErks. laughing

                  4. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 14: 23
                    +4
                    Well, this blockhead could hardly cope with our PionErks.

                    He would have ordered them straight into the soup, without salt and without onions ... fellow You yourself say - "blockhead"! request Although an "empirator". wassat
                  5. Catfish
                    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 38
                    +1
                    I think they would have left him so that he had no time for soup. laughing
                  6. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 15: 23
                    +2
                    I think they would have left him so that he had no time for soup.

                    With an alien class enemy-exploiter - no, no! stop And he was, moreover, a tattered imperialist. negative
                  7. Catfish
                    Catfish 22 March 2021 16: 20
                    +3
                    Political orientation and class affiliation only worried about ideologically sustained ... um ... (b) A lady like Lariska Reisner, normal women are interested in something completely different. And our pioneers are pioneers to all pioneers! good We went to school, the topic is familiar. laughing
        2. Mihaylov
          Mihaylov 22 March 2021 14: 22
          +2
          Quote: Sea Cat
          "And immediately drank" (c)

          Since we are talking about the guards, I suggest a drink like the guards: drinks


        3. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 14: 25
          +3
          Since we are talking about the guards, I suggest a drink like the guards

          What to drink boom? wink On the flood Sea Cat? Or will we send him for the girls? drinks Knows a lot, Kotyara ... good
        4. Mihaylov
          Mihaylov 22 March 2021 14: 28
          +2
          Quote: Pane Kohanku
          What to drink boom?

          - What did Mozart drink?
          - And what Solieri poured - that he drank! drinks
        5. Catfish
          Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 48
          +2
          Gosha! Send the old servant for the girls !? You will hit the road yourself, and it’s better to sit on the flood.
        6. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 14: 58
          +3
          You will hit the road yourself, and it’s better to sit on the flood.

          What a cunning you are! wink You can bring three times more girls on your quad with a trailer than on my "Megan". fellow And we will throw off your petrol and buy a separate bottle as a bonus! Respect, Uncle Kostya!drinks
        7. Catfish
          Catfish 22 March 2021 16: 03
          +2
          Persuaded, eloquent, get the girls. laughing

        8. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 16: 11
          +2
          Persuaded, eloquent, get the girls.

          These are marble. Will they be made of meat? wink how did Jean-Bedel bequeathed? laughing
        9. Catfish
          Catfish 22 March 2021 16: 21
          +1
          We do not serve meat without a side dish! laughing
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 41
    +2
    ... I suggest a drink like a guard:


    Then exclusively pure alcohol, as it should be in the Taman Guards Division. soldier
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 22 March 2021 14: 45
    +3
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Then exclusively pure alcohol, as it should be in the Taman Guards Division

    - "Guys let's be friends!"
    Offer "Friendly Liqueur" drinks
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 56
    +3
    At one time, in the sixties, a cocktail called "Friendly" was served in the bar of the Moscow hotel. It was delicious. smile drinks
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 22 March 2021 15: 02
    +3
    Quote: Sea Cat
    At one time, in the sixties, a cocktail called "Friendly" was served in the bar of the Moscow hotel. It was delicious.

    Unfortunately, I did not find it, my first alcohol in my life was in 1991 on an archaeological expedition:

    I drank and smiled
    and then:

    Only that in my opinion was Uzbek, but I don't remember. drinks
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 15: 59
    +2
    But what, I remember "Smile" from a young age, and there was also "Bouquet of Abkhazia" and "Black Eyes" - generally excellent wines. drinks

  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 21 March 2021 15: 32
    +7
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Lyosha, hello. smile
    There are only three main characters. One of them is a cannibal, the second is a schizophrenic, I have no information about the third. Which one of them did you have in mind as worthy? laughing

    The third is Sasha Baron Cohen, aka Bruno, aka Borat. fellow
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 21 March 2021 15: 31
    +4
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Hello Albert! hi
    The earliest and first comments clearly show who does not suffer from a hangover in the morning. laughing
    As for ostentation, then - yes, the whole human race sins with this, and not only in the armed forces.
    It's just that in the army this is probably easier. drinks



    Greetings, Constantine! hi
    The fewer fights, the more rewards - an axiom laughing
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 21 March 2021 16: 08
      +6
      As it was in "Kings and Cabbage" - So who knew that this is the monkey president ?!
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 March 2021 16: 15
        +4
        Second, like, Go Amin?
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 21 March 2021 16: 21
          +4
          Second, like, Go Amin?


          Exactly! I confused him with Bokassa, both have muzzles like a polished boot. laughing
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 21 March 2021 16: 30
            +4
            Quotes from this famous figure:
            In war, when there is nothing to eat, and one of your fellow soldiers is wounded, you can kill and eat him to survive ... I ate human flesh. It is very salty, even saltier than leopard meat ...

            From non-trivial:
            "You cannot run faster than a bullet"
            Diplomacy master class (to the President of Tanzania Julius Nyerere):
            I love you very much, and if you were a woman, I would marry you, although your head is already gray

            laughing
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 21 March 2021 16: 57
              +3
              The smartest person, and among the cannibals too. laughing

              "You cannot run faster than a bullet"


              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 21 March 2021 17: 55
                +3
                Therefore, he taught the soldiers to fall faster than the shell laughing
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 18: 23
                  +3
                  "Here the bullet flew and our comrade fell" (c)
                2. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 18: 24
                  +4
                  Now you can eat fellow
                3. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 18: 29
                  +4
                  Now you can eat

                4. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 18: 42
                  +3
                  “Tits in the dough, it's delicious
                  I wanted boobs in the test "(c)
                5. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 18: 52
                  +5
                  “Tits in the dough, it's delicious
                  I wanted boobs in the test "(c)

                  Hannibal Lecter said rubbing his hands.
                6. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 32
                  +4
                  And reached for Clarissa? ))
                7. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 20: 32
                  +4
                  And he reached out to Larissa! )))

                8. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 20: 33
                  +4
                  "I want Larisa Ivanovna?" (from) ))
                9. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 20: 41
                  +3
                  What can he do? laughing

                10. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 20: 50
                  +5
                  Sing. Chita Brita Chita Margarita Vakh fellow
                11. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 21: 10
                  +4
                  Our Margarita is purely Brit ... yes ... laughing

                  (picture is not attached). stop
                12. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 22: 03
                  +3
                  Not attached because - Wah fellow
                13. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 22: 43
                  +3
                  ... because - wah


                  Genatsvale, Vakha completely lost his mind when he saw! wassat
                14. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 21 March 2021 22: 56
                  +3
                  Eh, where is he looking ... does Dada know him ??
                15. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 23: 09
                  +2
                  "Only the dark night knows ..." (c) - Saul said, buttoning up his trousers.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 21 March 2021 21: 09
    +6
    Someone lacks protein?
  • Catfish
    Catfish 21 March 2021 21: 19
    +5
    There is no romantic streak in you, colleague. request
    Someone lacks protein

    Maybe it's not the squirrel, but the squirrel ?!

    "The squirrel sings songs
    Yes, it gnaws nuts all,
    But nuts are not simple,
    All the shells are golden, "(c)

    Well, who can dream of such a sober head? A pure glitch, but it became - "Squirrel"! laughing drinks
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 21 March 2021 22: 06
    +4
    "Three hundred kunas
    He would pay the virus "(c).
  • Catfish
    Catfish 21 March 2021 22: 49
    +3
    ... He would pay the virus

  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 21 March 2021 23: 28
    +4
    Who are these people?
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 00: 00
    +3
    They will live after us.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 22 March 2021 05: 10
    +3
    The landscape is so-so. And overpopulation.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 12: 46
    +3
    Here, exactly the opposite, but also somehow not happy
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 22 March 2021 17: 49
    +2
    Not happy at all.
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 11: 35
    +2
    They will live after us.

    Led by a chocolate daddy tanker? wink I like Romero's films ... yes
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 12: 50
    +3
    It depends on what "dad" runs. laughing

  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 13: 13
    +1
    It depends on what "dad" runs.

    Well, if you take the movie poster that you posted above, you should not refuel, but refuel, moreover, with someone else's flesh ... laughing
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 13: 17
    +1
    "Refueling" with flesh also has its own specifics, everyone understands it differently. fellow
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 13: 22
    +3
    "Refueling" with flesh also has its own specifics, everyone understands it differently.

    So, I never doubt your talents and motivation! wink drinks
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 13: 34
    +4
    No, I am a supporter of the humane treatment of women. love

  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 13: 39
    +4
    No, I am a supporter of the humane treatment of women.

    Look, Uncle Kostya, the ladies will find out about your "humane treatment" ... and they will get the esponton on duty to punish you, humane! fellow drinks
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 04
    +3
    And we will stand as a united front against world babilism! angry
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 14: 07
    +2
    And we will stand as a united front against world babilism!

    Exactly! soldier If the wife calls it a transvestite, we will collect her rags and let's go! lol
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 17
    +1
    Never!!! stop
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 14: 27
    +2
    Never!!!

    Are you left lol Have you learned the fighting stance on the border with the hungweipings? drinks By the way, I could upload my drawings ... yes
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 37
    +1
    Are you left

    You mixed up the floor again. laughing
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 14: 40
    +2
    You mixed up the floor again.

    I accidentally confused the parties. laughing
  • Mihaylov
    Mihaylov 22 March 2021 14: 34
    +2
    Quote: Sea Cat
    It depends on what "dad" runs.

    And we have a "snack":
  • Catfish
    Catfish 22 March 2021 14: 44
    +1
    "In the spring birds sing in the sky,
    And people go on loan to ask:
    After all, every person strives
    In the spring, drink - have a bite! " smile drinks
  • Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 13: 42
    +1
    .. Would he pay the virus

    Sean Bean is forever! good
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 24 March 2021 14: 06
    +1
    both have muzzles like a polished boot.

    There are no met live maters on you, horror.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 24 March 2021 14: 57
      +2
      And don't say a complete nightmare! laughing

      Hi Aleksey. hi
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 24 March 2021 21: 09
        +2
        Welcome hi
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 21 March 2021 18: 02
    +5
    "O'Day, you are not suitable for a private agency" (c).
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 21 March 2021 18: 25
      +4
      "In a war where the kidnapping of government officials is the very first thing, you would be an irreplaceable person. ..." (c)
  • mmaxx
    mmaxx 21 March 2021 07: 02
    +8
    Nicholas I exiled Lermontov to the Caucasus for poetry. And one officer, do not remember the last name, but not of the last kind, was exiled by the buttons. Gentlemen, the officers in the company were drinking. He went home. In the dark, he put on the jacket of his friend from another regiment. Confused. It was distinguished by buttons - silver or gold. And that's all. I got caught in the morning by the tsar on the street and flew in. The form is not your regiment - please, clear your head in the Caucasus. The case was reported in the journal Science and Life.
    The military attach great importance to their rags. Boots are the face of an officer.
    Look at the demobels.
    1. kalibr
      21 March 2021 07: 27
      +9
      Quote: mmaxx
      The case was reported in the journal Science and Life.

      You forgot. There was also a cross that had not been assigned to him. On someone else's uniform! "How dare you make a comedy out of honor for a military uniform without the right to take and wear a cross you are not supposed to!"
    2. Senior seaman
      Senior seaman 21 March 2021 10: 33
      +6
      Quote: mmaxx
      I got caught in the morning by the tsar on the street and flew in.

      EMNIP is still not the tsar, but VK Mikhail Pavlovich. He was generally a terrible pedant. Once, being in the Caucasus, where the demands were softer, Nicholas I said with a grin to the officers in Circassians: “It's good that Mikhail doesn't see you, he wouldn't have survived.
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx 21 March 2021 12: 45
        +4
        Well, I read it for a long time. Pea memory)). But ... This does not negate the principle. Wrong uniform -> to the Caucasus.
    3. Catfish
      Catfish 21 March 2021 13: 18
      +6
      Look at the demobels.


      Not necessary. Vomiting.
  • kalibr
    21 March 2021 07: 23
    +6
    Quote: Hunter 2
    My Son and I collect "tin soldiers"

    You are on the right track. When a father is engaged with his son in what is interesting to both - this is what you need!
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 21 March 2021 07: 29
      +5
      Thank you Vyacheslav Olegovich hi if you have materials on the clothes of the Russian cavalry of that time ... the article will be just a sight! There is such an interesting "spread" from the Life Guards to irregular formations. good from golden Uniforms - to practically “everyday” clothes!
      1. kalibr
        21 March 2021 11: 13
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        if you have materials on the clothes of the Russian cavalry of that time ... the article will be just a sight! There is such an interesting "spread" from the Life Guards to irregular formations. from golden Uniforms - to practically “everyday” clothes!

        There are materials. But when they turn into an article I will not say. You can't write about the same thing all the time.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 21 March 2021 14: 15
          +6
          Vyacheslav, good afternoon. smile
          What are good about your articles is that it is always interesting to read them. And look at the pictures ... good drinks
          I would like as much as possible in the form of clothing and as much detail as possible.
          By the way, he painted himself at one time, but somehow he did not bother to sign. I see, Hrantez, but who? Not one of the gamekeepers, by any chance?
          1. kalibr
            21 March 2021 15: 47
            +4
            [quote = Sea Cat] Vyacheslav, good afternoon.
            I would like as much as possible in the form of clothing and as much detail as possible.
            By the way, he painted himself at one time, but somehow he did not bother to sign. I see, Hrantez, but who? Not one of the gamekeepers, by any chance?
            And good afternoon to you! Listen, Konstantin, you are just an artist. This is your drawing of Napoleon's Guardsman # 3 after 1854. And they didn't even forget the grenade, not the buckle ... And the tin flask on the right. Well, congratulations!
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 21 March 2021 16: 00
              +6
              In the early nineties, with one of my friends (with his money) they decided to make cards with uniforms and without porn that had set the teeth on edge. My friend died, the case died out, but the drawings remained.
              The "Joker" was supposed to be a modern mercenary, didn't finish painting, everything was over. request

              Well, the Ladies, respectively, were also present.
              1. kalibr
                21 March 2021 17: 01
                +2
                Awesome! How nice to be able to draw so ... And the idea is gorgeous! Maybe you should think about it ... implement it somehow?
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 17: 09
                  +3
                  For me, the "train left", after a stroke there is a slight tremor in the fingers, it does not interfere with life, but working with ink with a thin feather will not work out very well, and I have cooled down to this for a long time. And you, if you wish, try it, I will send the drawings to the post office. Yes, and you have a good artist in your friends, if you are interested, it will work. smile
                  1. kalibr
                    21 March 2021 19: 29
                    +2
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    Yes, and you have a good artist in your friends, if you are interested, it will work.

                    Good for tech! And with the drawings, let's do this: we will make a series of articles on uniforms with your drawings. And honor and benefit to you!
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 21 March 2021 20: 27
                      +2
                      I agree, but, I repeat, they are all without signatures, but you will figure out how with this "guardian". smile
  • kalibr
    21 March 2021 07: 37
    +7
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Article to favorites !!!

    Read on! Moreover, there will be two more articles about clothing: Austrians and French.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 21 March 2021 07: 45
      +5
      Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich. And since childhood, I looked at pictures and scenes from films, where slender "squares" in all these shako and leggings and thought: beautiful, but ... not practical! And getting into such a bright spot is easy, and you will be tortured to wash after transitions and students!
  • mmaxx
    mmaxx 21 March 2021 06: 52
    +7
    Well, why so about kings? In our time, there, any "reform" begins with dressing up the army. Favorite activity of the generals. Those are still mods.
    In the old days, another important goal was pursued: the soldier had to fiddle with his uniform most of his time. It is easy to control, there is a reason to flog. And the officers themselves can drink vodka and do other useful things.
    I watched a movie here. About the English guards, who are all so beautiful. The soldier says 8 !!! for hours a day he screwed up his cuirass and hat. Shtop everything was ok and shone like ... the cat. And he is very proud of this. Probably the RFP allows.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 13: 11
      +7
      Probably the RFP allows.
      Private - £ 20400 a year. Sergeant-35850 per year - which is already quite nothing - a middle-level manager with a higher education or a highly qualified worker in a good place.
      1. kalibr
        21 March 2021 16: 02
        +6
        I remember how you start reading the NIVA magazine so you will surely come across a comparison of the salaries of a Russian and foreign officers. So in England it was traditionally the highest. The lowest in Germany and Italy, the lowest in Russia.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 16: 14
          +3
          As far as I know (a friend told me), there are no surcharges for military operations in the British Army, only additional weekends upon arrival.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 21 March 2021 16: 34
            +2
            But this is probably correct.
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 16: 30
        +4
        Is this in addition to health insurance, housing and food?
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 16: 35
          +4
          The state pays for social insurance payments separately. There is no medical insurance due to unnecessary - you fully in the care of military doctors. Housing and food - most of it is covered by the state. Those who have served 20 years - the amount as a gift. Something like this. For certain specialties - additional payment.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 21 March 2021 16: 38
            +4
            In general, more interesting than in the Foreign Legion ...
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 16: 43
              +4
              So they take not all (almost all wassat ) - citizens of Great Britain, Ireland and the Commonwealth. With an outstanding criminal record, they will not take it, as well as with tattoos of an "outrageous plot".
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 21 March 2021 16: 46
                +3
                Likewise, not everyone is accepted into the Foreign Legion nowadays.
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 16: 59
                  +2
                  And contrary to popular belief, the French passport is not handed over. The exception is if he "paid in blood" - he was wounded.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 21 March 2021 17: 06
                    +5
                    That is yes!
                    Today, to obtain a French passport, you have to cross the Mediterranean Sea, riding on a condom.
                    1. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 17: 10
                      +4
                      And this does not give a guarantee - they are all in Calais in the "Jungle" and are trying to get in from France to England - in France they feel bad. I have earned the right to a French passport after living with my wife for more than 6 years, but I think that the order would be more appropriate here am .
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 17: 22
                        +3
                        Gives. There is such a thing, "demographic pressure", it has different manifestations. Sooner or later, the "dam" in Calais will break through.
                      2. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 17: 33
                        +5
                        Not. The more they press, the more they push. The ranks of human rights defenders have thinned, public housing is not stupid, not so bold. It got to the point that those who arrived a decade earlier from the same places and in the same way say to their fellow countrymen, "bring it back." By the way, this was one of the biggest reasons for Brexit - all swimmers who received documents in Malta or in Italy completely legally rode to much richer England. As a result, the social budget exceeded the military budget and continued to grow. Everyone got tired and everything rolled. In general, about 4 out of 5 runners get out of the way - otherwise there would already be more whites in Africa than in Europe.
                        Separately, I want to note that public opinion has changed dramatically and the tearful stories of swimmers no longer cause sympathy.
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 17: 46
                        +3
                        This can not but rejoice.
                      4. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 17: 53
                        +4
                        basic questions for "refugees"
                        1. Why, having received a residence permit, the first thing a runner goes to rest .. to the very country where he was in danger and escaped?
                        2. Why are there many expensive tour packages sold to a significant number of countries from which they "flee"?
                        3. Do you have men in countries that are NOT homosexuals? (there is a belief that LGBT people give asylum immediately - and they all try to take advantage of it. It comes to ridiculous)
                        In general, it began to reach. A sharp outbreak of infectious diseases also helped - even human rights defenders got sick.
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 18: 43
                        +2
                        Do you really need a pandemic and an emergency regime to understand that these "refugees" are just agents of influence?
    2. kalibr
      21 March 2021 16: 45
      +4
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      In general, more interesting than in the Foreign Legion ...

      During the WWII, an Englishman participated in the Normandy landings, performed a couple of feats, and after the war ... opened a beer bar in Yorkshire. For what? This is not a cheap business. Open the bar!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 16: 53
        +3
        This is not a cheap business. Open the bar!
        Looking where.
      2. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 21 March 2021 16: 53
        +5
        This is how you agree - the pub can give "on parole" - that in two or three months everything will be the way. Beer will be delivered with payment "by sale" - it was not difficult before, especially in Yorkshire (English Mukholubinskaya oblast). You can hardly become a millionaire either.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 21 March 2021 06: 55
    +10
    "- To me? Single-breasted uniform? Do you know that no one is fighting in a single-breasted one anymore? We are not ready for war! " (from).
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 07: 06
      +6
      Hello Sergey and honest company!
      If serious.
      Of course, you can dream a little.
      And ... in an alternate reality

      Alexander was the son of his father, however, like Pavel Petrovich. In this regard, the rest of Pavel's children, Konstantin and Nikolai, did not go far.
      On the other hand, throughout his reign, Nicholas I, as it is to say, softened more and more in relation to "frunt and step", but sometimes he showed himself.
      Remark. The overcoat was the favorite everyday outerwear of many of our sovereigns: Nicholas I, Alexander III. The latter wore out his favorite clothes to the rags.
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 21 March 2021 07: 20
        +9
        Hello Vladislav!

        Here I think: how much the century of strictness and liberality is manifested both in clothes and in handwriting.
        And after all, it manifests itself.
      2. Sergey Valov
        Sergey Valov 21 March 2021 08: 32
        +6
        Overcoat - Paul's ingenious introduction to army clothing.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 10: 25
          +9
          Quote: Sergey Valov
          Overcoat - Paul's ingenious introduction to army clothing.

          Eh Sergei, apparently you were not freezing in a thirty-degree frost in your overcoat at the post. The advantages of the overcoat are versatility, relative cheapness and simplicity. Well, it's beautiful, which cannot but please the sight of the gunman.
          The rest of the pea jacket (quilted jacket) and short fur coat are much more comfortable and warmer.
          By the way, Pavel Petrovich noted that he introduced a pier to wear leggings in the army. Still that happiness, I did not approve of it. Well, he "modernized" the drill by replacing the "go" command with the "march" command.
          Otherwise, his reform of artillery is of particular interest. Arakcheev completed it under Alexander and this is one of the pillars of our victories in the wars with Napoleon.
          1. kalibr
            21 March 2021 11: 10
            +6
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            You are in a thirty-degree frost in your greatcoat at the post.

            For this, in the tsarist army, fur coats and felt boots were provided, into which the legs were inserted right in the boots! It was specifically prescribed how one takes it off, and the other immediately puts it on
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 12: 04
              +6
              Quote: kalibr
              For this, in the tsarist army, fur coats and felt boots were provided, into which the legs were inserted right in the boots! It was specifically prescribed how one takes it off, and the other immediately puts it on

              Well, actually, not fur coats, but "sheepskin coats". Most of all they looked like a sheepskin coat with wool inside. Valenki, more precisely "chuni" or "pima" of this type, survived until the reforms of Alexander II, but were considered not a statutory uniform, like sheepskin coats, a form of clothing "fit for guard duty."
              By the way, the cap, as such, appears around the same period. Moreover, it is considered our domestic invention for non-combatant service.
              Kutuzov popularized it. Although there is an interesting example of the disobedience of the officers of the Life Guards Cuirassier Regiment. When Tsarevich Konstantin Pavlovich tore off his cap from the cuirassier on a campaign, indicating an inappropriate appearance. Then it turned out that due to the injury at Austerlitz, the latter had personal permission from the emperor. After a protest from the lower ranks and officers, the emperor's brother had to apologize.
              1. kalibr
                21 March 2021 12: 41
                +8
                I completely forgot this word "sheepskin coat", you know ...
              2. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 22 March 2021 11: 43
                +3
                Well, actually, not fur coats, but "sheepskin coats". Most of all they looked like a sheepskin coat with wool inside.

                Vlad, sheepskin coats and felt boots Pavel ordered to be kept on guard in such quantity, so that there was necessarily a dry shift! drinks but the bouclie - yes, they caused persistent rejection. Well, that's understandable.
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 March 2021 20: 15
                  +2
                  Hi Nikolay! A wig and bouclie are of course lice and dirt, but on the other hand Instead of a hat with earflaps, I pulled it over my ears and does not blow! laughing
          2. Sergey Valov
            Sergey Valov 21 March 2021 14: 12
            +9
            In 30-degree frost, I wore a sheepskin coat over my overcoat (at the post, they gave out sheepskin coats after 10 degrees, similarly, felt boots instead of boots). Universal clothes do not exist, as casual clothes are great, as work clothes are uncomfortable. I completely agree on the pea jacket and short fur coat, but they also have their drawbacks.
            The sentry has a living corpse
            Wrapped in a sheepskin coat
            Instructed to tears
            And exposed to frost.
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 15: 03
              +6
              You are lucky Sergey! We were allowed to wear short fur coats only after minus 25, how to lower the ears at the caps with earflaps.
              Now in this regard, concessions. At minus 20, cadets are even given something full of bachelors with a slit for the eyes.
          3. BAI
            BAI 21 March 2021 15: 13
            +8
            You were not freezing in a thirty-degree frost in an overcoat at your post.

            What is the overcoat at the post in 30 degrees frost? At such a temperature, the sentries change into guard sheepskin coats and the time of the post (guard) is reduced.

            The fact that the overcoat is not suitable for frost was found out during the Finnish War.
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 19: 40
              +3
              Quote: BAI
              At this temperature, the sentries change into guard sheepskin coats.

              In the photo - an army sheepskin coat, not a sheepskin coat.
              1. BAI
                BAI 21 March 2021 20: 21
                +3
                It is a sheepskin coat. The sheepskin coat has the floor slightly longer than the sleeves.
                On the left is a sheepskin coat, on the right is a sheepskin coat.
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                  Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 22: 16
                  +3
                  Below, the respected mammoth has already answered.
                  I will clarify. White sheepskin coat in the photo. At home I have two pieces of bleached sheepskin with the brand "army coat", there are two more short sheepskin coats of black sheepskin covered with black fabric (police). All four are equipped with shoulder straps.
                  Sheepskin coat, in contrast to sheepskin coats, was worn over an overcoat, and had no straps for shoulder straps. Even according to the statement, sheepskin coats were issued for the unit, and short fur coats were issued to servicemen, well, or to employees if the police.
            2. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 21 March 2021 21: 23
              +2
              Quote: BAI
              What is the overcoat at the post in 30 degrees frost?

              Quote: Sergey Valov
              In 30-degree frost, I wore a sheepskin coat over my overcoat (at the post, they gave out sheepskin coats after 10 degrees, similarly and felt boots instead of boots).

              And, under a sheepskin coat, an overcoat, a quilted jacket and wadded pants! wink Matryoshka! But, it's warm!
              Quote: kalibr
              It was specifically prescribed how one takes it off, and the other immediately puts it on

              Valenki were dressed in the guardroom. They changed into a sheepskin coat right at the post. Demand. Never let go of the weapon. Every movement has been practiced. Imagine how we did it. wink
              PSI In the photo, probably, a sheepskin coat. However, I did not see epaulettes on sheepskin coats. wink
              PS There is a strap on the overcoats. No, a wasted thing. On modern-day decoration. wink
      3. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 09: 09
        +10
        The latter wore out his favorite clothes to the rags.
        "Maria Fedorovna, wiping away a tear, turned to her husband:
        - Sasha, stop appearing in public in rags, you shame us! Where is the new greatcoat made for you for last Christmas? What do you mean "laid" ??? Ah, a new battleship has been laid! Trouble with you men, some pieces of iron on your mind! "
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 21 March 2021 10: 22
          +7
          H. E. Mitarevsky recalled that even before the onset of cold weather the lower ranks looked rather "unpresentable":
          “The soldiers wore shabby greatcoats and uniforms. There were no uniform pantaloons, but both white and motley trousers were worn. Shakos were under covers, both black and white. They did not whiten the harness, and they turned from white to yellow-brown - they did not pay attention to this; only strictly looked after the serviceability of rifles, charges and all kinds of weapons. "
          The officers were also rather “worn out” on the march: “The head-captain had a wolf's fur coat, I had a sheepskin coat, but on the march I worn him out so much that there were only remnants. Other officers were in uniforms, shabby light greatcoats, but throwing overcoats made of peasant cloth on top, they kept warm enough. "
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 21 March 2021 13: 33
          +8
          Hi, hello! smile
          In our department of fabrics there was Alexander II's overcoat, practically new, gray in color, but it was not recommended to wear it for men less than 180 cm tall.
          And in our department there was a saber, which the emperor was armed with on the day of the assassination attempt, and on it were clearly visible traces of damage from the explosion.

          1. kalibr
            21 March 2021 16: 06
            +5
            Konstantin! After all ... and my wife told me that her great-grandfather was present at the attempt on Alexander 2 and picked up a piece that was torn from his greatcoat !!! And then it was kept in their family for a long time, but then it was touched somewhere ... That was a souvenir! By the way, from the "boys" at the store he rose to the rank of a salesman and sold tea. In the photo ... a gallant man!
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 21 March 2021 16: 18
              +4
              ... her great-grandfather was present ...


              It’s good that it didn’t catch on, remember this story?
              1. kalibr
                21 March 2021 16: 29
                +5
                Well, of course I remember. He was a messenger boy, he ran "sent", did not look around. And then = bang ... bang and a piece of an overcoat fell right at your feet. He took it and came to give it ... and then he sees "from whom the piece". Well, I didn't even dare ... There, from my wife's side, there are continuous illustrations for this story: he was killed, this Komsomol leader disappeared in the 30s ... my mother almost died of hunger ... And we met by accident ... She did not go to college and went to work at a factory in order to be eligible for admission to the preparatory department, and I went to school at the age of 8. Then she graduated from vocational education, and wanted to enter an injection facility, but then they discovered "history and English" and she went to this faculty, where I am. Well ... then I saw her, and she saw me. And her friends said: Oh, I would have a beautiful husband! And she told them - and I would be smart! So, ha ha, and it happened!
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 21 March 2021 16: 58
                  +4
                  Not everyone is lucky in life, but it is, in any case, interesting and good. smile
          2. Mihaylov
            Mihaylov 22 March 2021 11: 55
            +2
            Quote: Sea Cat
            In our department of fabrics there was Alexander II's overcoat, practically new, gray in color, but it was not recommended to wear it for men less than 180 cm tall.

            Good afternoon Constantine,
            The officer's uniform of the Life Guard of the Jäger Regiment with general's shoulder straps and the officer's uniform of the Life Guard of the Semyonovsky Regiment with the general's shoulder straps: belonged to Alexander II (from the Hermitage Guard Museum):

            Officer's tunic of Her Imperial Majesty's cavalry regiment: belonged to Alexander II:
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 22 March 2021 13: 06
              +1
              Good day, Sergey. hi
              The cavalry uniform is especially good and effective. good
  • Free wind
    Free wind 21 March 2021 06: 57
    +8
    The then hare, the soldiers would have filled his face with pleasure. Heat in summer. something will sopreet and fall off, in winter it's a dog's cold, something will freeze and fall off, something that hasn't fallen off in summer. Formation training was important in order to keep the formation in attack and defense. Especially the Macedonian phalanx, the Roman cohorts. But now what's the point? Well, okay, we learned to keep the line, walk in step, turns hay and straw. and what is this shagistika for now? The soldier is serving for a year at the moment. For three months of them, he learns to fill arrows on a blanket, and to form a parallelepiped from a pillow. Then six months drill and, and preparation for demobilization. And then the commanders of all stripes, oh, the service life is short. Yes, they serve a lot, someone has little brains, you need not to walk, but to engage in combat training. Preparations for the parade on Red Square take 3-4 months, and before that, the selection is in the combat units. That is, preparation takes half a year. Preparation for the parade on November 7, 1941, took 4 days, damn it 4 days! Moreover, presumably the tanks went with full ammunition. The soldiers went without ammunition, but there is no evidence about the tanks that they were without or with ammunition. Actually, it was 15-20 kilometers to the front, this is a maximum hour of travel. , I fully admit that the tanks were combat-ready, when every minute counts. It takes more than 15 minutes to put the ammo in the tank.
    1. mmaxx
      mmaxx 21 March 2021 07: 09
      +3
      So also the best units and academies prepare for the parade 3 months a year. The parade, the thing is necessary, but ... Somehow it is necessary to balance this with combat training
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 21 March 2021 07: 19
        -5
        Quote: mmaxx
        Somehow it is necessary to balance this with combat training.

        Demonstration of the strength and power of the state is one of the tasks of preventing even the thought of an adversary to attack the country. Consider the parade as one of the components of the combat training of the army and the entire country as a whole.
        1. mmaxx
          mmaxx 21 March 2021 12: 50
          +3
          Duc, who to deceive? Yourself? People are watching the parade and are shedding tears: here we can uncover any enemy with such eagles. Only the adversary looks differently. All this reminds Napoleon and Prussia ... Only history teaches ... well, and so on.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 21 March 2021 15: 38
          +5
          Quote: Boris55
          Quote: mmaxx
          Somehow it is necessary to balance this with combat training.

          Demonstration of the strength and power of the state is one of the tasks of preventing even the thought of an adversary to attack the country. Consider the parade as one of the components of the combat training of the army and the entire country as a whole.

          And I think it's a show-off for three kopecks. The soldier "must be able to shoot like a cowboy and run like his horse." (from)
      2. kalibr
        21 March 2021 07: 31
        +3
        Quote: mmaxx
        So also the best units and academies prepare for the parade 3 months a year. Parade, the thing you need

        I watched the parade in Paris, on Bastille Day, though from a distance ... We were out of step, exactly, but whoever wanted to. They didn't look worse from this ...
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 21 March 2021 08: 29
          0
          Quote: kalibr
          They didn't look worse from this ...

          Every man to his own taste. The coherence of the subdivisions is a sign of their coherence in battle. In other words, whoever walks as he fights.



          It is a pity that the beauty of our system at the parades "our" TV does not show sad
          1. kalibr
            21 March 2021 11: 03
            +10
            Quote: Boris55
            The coherence of the subdivisions is a sign of their coherence in battle. In other words, whoever walks as he fights.

            Wrong! Keeping pace is one thing, fighting is another.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 22 March 2021 08: 07
              0
              Quote: kalibr
              Wrong! Keeping pace is one thing, fighting is another.

              Practice is the criterion of truth. Ours march no worse than the Chinese, only they don't show it on TV - only close-ups and the backs of those leaving ...
          2. mmaxx
            mmaxx 21 March 2021 13: 14
            +4
            For fun, all the uniforms were ruined. Shikanuli, damn it.
            The sailors really need to march beautifully.
        2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 10: 34
          +4
          Quote: kalibr
          I watched the parade in Paris, on Bastille Day, though from a distance ... We were out of step, exactly, but whoever wanted to. They did not look worse from this

          Come on. The French twice in the last quarter of a century were able to arrange an accident with the participation of Leclerc tanks in the parade crew. In 1995, they blamed everything on electronics, in 2017 - they got it in full. The rest, the impression that not a parade, but a demonstration or procession. The British, Koreans and Chinese are far away. Even Indians are better at marching.
          1. kalibr
            21 March 2021 11: 04
            +5
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            Even Indians are better at marching.

            And the Pakistanis generally raise their legs above their heads. But that doesn't mean they are good soldiers. The ballerina can lift her legs high.
            1. BAI
              BAI 21 March 2021 15: 26
              +9
              Here is an exemplary drill.

              In general, drill training has been a necessary element of combat training since the time of the Macedonian phalanx or the Roman legions, when the most important task was to keep the formation in battle and move around the battlefield at the same time. And this task was relevant before the advent of automatic weapons (machine guns). After that, it became irrevocably outdated and now drill is needed only for beauty - for parades. It has no combat value now.
              1. Astra wild2
                Astra wild2 21 March 2021 16: 09
                +3
                Colleague VAI, I do not know about you, but I feel sorry for the Korean girls, it seems this is from the parade in the DPRK, on ​​YouTube I saw how they are being drilled
                1. BAI
                  BAI 21 March 2021 20: 27
                  +5
                  Yes, this is the DPRK. But that's nothing. This is how you can generally burst in half, and they still smile.

                  They walk one linear distance.
            2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 15: 26
              +7
              Quote: kalibr
              And the Pakistanis generally raise their legs above their heads. But that doesn't mean they are good soldiers. The ballerina can lift her legs high.


              Vyacheslav Olegovich I am against shtagistiki, but for drill training. The army is a tool in which a soldier learns to do everything perfectly. Then the tool itself works fine.
              Trust me, it takes two weeks to learn to walk. Ceremonial calculations, boxes and funeral orders are a bleaching topic. The most important thing in urgent service is a soldier who is taught to believe in himself, to trust a comrade and to obey the commander. Nobody remembers the atavisms of unquestioning obedience. A fighter with ingenuity is always more effective than an obedient and uninitiated submachine gun. But he also needs to be taught to feel the elbow of his comrade. Because one in the field is not a warrior.
              So drill is an old proven way to teach teamwork, to feel like a cog in the system. Even the "foolishness, which is obvious in the eyes of a civilian," in the form of digging from here until sunset. Aimed at the fact that the features of a person are manifested, both the best and the worst. Deprivation solders the collective better than carrot or hate. In civilian life, you can "slam the door", but in the army you cannot. There is no mother, there is no air, there is no white color, but he is such a creature that he first learns to survive, and then to live happily ever after. Although the load did not decrease and even increased.
              I went through it myself. Yesterday there was still a “herd” today, a “subdivision” which is ready for fire and water.
              1. kalibr
                21 March 2021 15: 32
                +3
                I see, Vladislav. You explained everything to me very well. Thank! Now I understand why my stepfather, Colonel SMERSH, who went through the entire war and served until 1950, having got to know me better, told me directly that I had nothing to do there. Either they kill you or you kill everyone there. There are people with such an organization.
              2. Moore
                Moore 22 March 2021 05: 59
                +2
                Dear Vladislav, explain the importance of drill training (here below the "specialists" separate it from combat - yes, such "specialists" here) to those who or had to train collective actions as part of the unit in this way (yes, to train against their will, because the soldier- a conscript wants to sleep, in a "chipok" and a girl), or to those intellectuals who did not wear military uniforms, who see in this an exceptionally stupid military obscurantism - what to paint the sky.
                The fact that the topics of drill training include, for example, the topics of "movement on the battlefield" or "embarking / disembarking from combat vehicles" is also not very interesting to anyone. As well as the fact that the education of a real soldier is a creative and multi-level process. Not all commanders are on the shoulder which - from the comments it can be seen.
          2. Astra wild2
            Astra wild2 21 March 2021 20: 14
            +6
            On YouTube, I saw: the changing of the guard at the Indians and Kakistanis. This is something hilarious. Like two turkeys in front of each other
    2. mmaxx
      mmaxx 21 March 2021 07: 13
      +6
      In general, shagistika is a good thing. Prapor or sergeant yells on the parade ground, the soldiers are busy, they pull their legs, they sing songs. The beauty. Comrade officers can do something useful, write all sorts of notes, etc. Notes are also easy to control. And so, it would be necessary to organize all sorts of classes, work. And most importantly - there is order!
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 10: 43
        +5
        What would a child in the army have fun with - let him march !!! wink
        It was inspired by the hussars. The latter had a chic on the "buttocks" of leggings to embroider a dove and a dove with silver embroidery. When passing with a marching step, taking into account the anatomy of body parts, the "birds" did it ...! recourse
        1. mmaxx
          mmaxx 21 March 2021 12: 51
          +4
          Convicts pricked two devils with shovels. You go, and the devils are throwing coal. It is also an option laughing
    3. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 21 March 2021 08: 31
      +5
      "Drill training was important in order to keep the formation in attack and defense" - the main task of drill training is to teach a soldier to follow orders unquestioningly. A conditioned reflex is developed. Everything else is secondary. The military realized this thousands of years ago.
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx 21 March 2021 12: 54
        +3
        The question is, how many are engaged in drill training, and how much combat training. Combat in any way is harder and more necessary, and the soldier understands why he is serving. And beating off steps and yelling all sorts of crap, so personally I only understood that in the army I was the one who darned at the soldiers and every household was free of charge and it was not clear why.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 15: 39
          +5
          I might be wrong, but drill is only 28 hours a year. Combat at least 28 hours a week.
          It is easier to teach a loner, but he is not a warrior in the field. The subdivision is more complicated, even if it doesn't like you at the beginning. Understanding will come later, when they realize that it is easier for two to do things, and “to spit and grind” by a unit.
          There is no place for democracy, tolerance and humanism in the army. Another unacceptable side is hazing and community.
          It is possible to live a bailiff, but it is better to live in a single team. Alone, you will peel potatoes all day, but when the help comes to you, your entire department will be completed in an hour. Likewise with trench, cross and combat training.
          1. mmaxx
            mmaxx 21 March 2021 16: 43
            +2
            Nuuu ... We used every opportunity. 28 a year is happiness. We have one smart guy - a polkan from the district - in general, decided that we need another hour after lunch every day. It’s good that everyone followed his instructions. He came and left, and we have to march here.
            I don’t know how it is now.
            Moreover, the frontline soldiers sabotaged and practically the level was at 3.
            In Austerlitz times, this was the basis. There is nothing to say.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 March 2021 15: 49
        +4
        Quote: Sergey Valov
        "Drill training was important in order to keep the formation in attack and defense" - the main task of drill training is to teach a soldier to follow orders unquestioningly. A conditioned reflex is developed. Everything else is secondary. The military realized this thousands of years ago.

        laughing when you stand in the ranks, and they throw a pebble at you and yell "Pomegranate" - you have four seconds to hide from it.
        There are three options:
        1) Screaming 21, 22, 23, blast! run as far away as possible (then the meters are counted, if someone has not run away to the set distance, everyone is driven again);
        2) Run around the corner, behind a thick tree, etc. Considered and welcomed;
        3) Jump on the "grenade". The most interesting thing is that they began to resort to such a practice two weeks later - there is a moral barrier for a person to do this even for fun. Valid, although not particularly welcome. It peaked at the end of the KMB - half a platoon jumped on it, like in American football laughing They yelled and started to drive again.
        ----
        And you say - shagistika, build fellow
        1. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 21 March 2021 19: 50
          +3
          "then they count meters" how much should you run from? When I saw the banner and, just in case, hid behind the APC.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 21 March 2021 19: 56
            +2
            12 meters, EMNIP, then fall
    4. depressant
      depressant 21 March 2021 17: 40
      +6
      The then hare, the soldiers would have filled his face with pleasure.


      Actually, it would be correct - "to the then Yudashkin")))
      It was Yudashkin who created the concept of eight-layer military clothing and tried to implement that concept in 2010. It was a big and noisy project for the Ministry of Defense to make the service of soldiers highly efficient. In fact, it turned out differently. And as, I suppose, everyone knows. With mass diseases of soldiers with pneumonia.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 21 March 2021 08: 20
    +4
    White pantaloons in ... battle! belay , and on the march, and in the saddle, this is beyond the understanding of a reasonable person ...

    How much minute they are white?
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 10: 39
      +6
      Beauty requires sacrifice. There was always a desire to show off. For example, one of the chics of the British navy in the Napoleonic wars was to use rigging with interweaving of colored fibers of red or gold. These are not aiguillettes, even if they are gold!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 11: 28
        +9
        This is not a show off, but a prevention of the theft of state property.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 March 2021 14: 03
          +5
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          This is not a show off, but a prevention of the theft of state property.

          No Anton, after all, he's showing off - they bought something like that with the captain's money. Mostly for his share of the prize money.
          Occasionally, the wardroom participated in the share, but this is more the exception than the rule.
          1. Tavrik
            Tavrik 21 March 2021 23: 39
            +2
            Maybe with the captain's money. But all the same, so as not to steal for sale .. Otherwise, the police will ask the buyer where he bought the rope from the Royal Nevi?
        2. vladcub
          vladcub 21 March 2021 17: 10
          +5
          I also read about this: a red thread was woven along the entire length of the rope. Hence the expression: "a common thread runs through a thought" or derived expressions
    2. kalibr
      21 March 2021 11: 07
      +5
      Quote: Olgovich
      and on the march, and in the saddle, this is beyond the understanding of a reasonable person ...

      Therefore, the cavalrymen wore gray, lined with leather on the campaign.
    3. bubalik
      bubalik 21 March 2021 11: 09
      +7
      ,
      White pantaloons in ... battle
      ,, dressed in a battle or for a parade.
      Hiking trousers were a non-statutory type of clothing. They were worn only by privates and non-commissioned officers. They were sewn from linen of various colors, mostly from unpainted (pale straw color). They were spacious enough. Above, the cut was similar to the statutory options, but the tight buttons could be replaced with leather ones. At the bottom, each leg was tightened with a braid or rope at the ankle. They could be worn over summer or winter pantaloons, thereby protecting them from contamination.
    4. bubalik
      bubalik 21 March 2021 11: 24
      +7
      ,,, here the uhlans did not wear white.


      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 21 March 2021 11: 43
        +9
        Jaegers didn't wear white either! In general, against the background of the rest, they were the most invisible! Greetings hi
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 21 March 2021 11: 58
          +5
          Good day! hi
        2. Richard
          Richard 21 March 2021 15: 25
          +7
          In general, against the background of the rest, they were the most invisible!

          Greetings Alexey hi ,
          Greetings Sergey hi
          until 1903 was still far away.
          It was then that the head of the border guard of the Port Arthur district, Lieutenant Vengrzhnovsky, dressed his people in green camouflaged uniforms with green shoulder straps. This idea came to him from an analysis of the battles of the Boer War of 1902.
          Stoessel was going to give Vengrzhnovsky a show about this, but the Ministry of Finance, to which the Border Guard corps was directly subordinate, laid siege to him.
    5. Dmitry Maximov_2
      Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 17: 12
      -8
      What surprises you? These are cheap consumables that were made without the use of dyes.
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 21 March 2021 21: 15
        +3
        You were not taught that rudeness does not decorate?
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  • ee2100
    ee2100 21 March 2021 10: 31
    +6
    The author has very beautiful pictures and they are described remarkably, but there is not a word about one element of clothing, namely boots, in the article, and after all, during the Napoleonic wars, the expression appeared that wars are won with feet.
    Ordinary soldiers of Napoleon's army did not wear boots at all, and in Russian boots for soldiers were sewn in several sizes and without deferentiation on the left and right. Just a boot. (I won't give a link to the source, because I didn't find it in haste, but I read about it 15 years ago)
    The officers made their own boots.
    Shoes are very expensive and an important element of a warrior's clothing.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 21 March 2021 10: 44
      +7
      And in general, the one who is on the road.
      At the same time, I am convinced that the bast shoes were created by a genius. But this is for ordinary life.
      And now they gave the linden a little growth.
    2. kalibr
      21 March 2021 11: 06
      +5
      Quote: ee2100
      Just a boot. (I won't give a link to the source, because I didn't find it in haste, but I read about it 15 years ago)

      Yes, just like that, then they were worn down on the leg.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 21 March 2021 20: 55
        +1
        I also heard about it. Not sure when you stopped wearing it like that?
    3. bubalik
      bubalik 21 March 2021 11: 11
      +4
      without deferencing to left and right.

      The lower ranks wore low boots made of black leather with a soft, low bootleg. Moreover, the right boot was no different from the left. To make the boots wear out more slowly, the charter prescribed to change boots every day: the boot that was worn on the right leg the day before was worn on the left leg and vice versa). On their feet under their boots, the soldiers wore footcloths (onuchi) or knitted woolen stockings.
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 21 March 2021 11: 25
        +4
        Something in the pictures I have not seen such
  • depressant
    depressant 21 March 2021 11: 08
    +6
    The oldest cavalry regiment from the cavalry unit of the imperial army took part in the battle of Austerlitz. The reforms of Alexander I in army clothes also affected him. On the outside, the style of the uniform was changed, curls, braids and powder were canceled, the cavalry guards were deprived of breast cuirasses as a distinctive element of the protective weapons of heavy cavalry.
    As for the organizational side, a fifth was added to the four squadrons of the regiment, in line with the rest of the cuirassier units. But the changes were carried out taking into account the fact that the regiment remained a ceremonial and ceremonial part of the army, shining in maneuvers and receptions. Even the lower ranks, recruited from soldiers of the army regiments of heavy cavalry, whose height was at least 186 centimeters, wore a catchy uniform, and the squadrons of the cavalry guards were divided according to the colors of horses - in the 1st and 5th horses were chestnut, in the 2nd and 4th - black, in the third - gray.
    1. Moore
      Moore 22 March 2021 05: 42
      +2
      Quote: depressant
      the oldest of the cavalry unit of the imperial army, the cavalry regiment

      Weren't the cavalry guards only organized into a corps under the leadership of Musin-Pushkin in 1799? This was shown by the concern for the noble niggardly "not engaged in combat training" Paul I - so that the fornies would pull the strap, starting with the rank and file.
      The regiment of cavalry guards was reorganized a year later under the leadership of Uvarov.
      Until 1799, there was only a blurred formation of the "cavalry guard", which was not a combat unit.
      1. depressant
        depressant 22 March 2021 10: 00
        +2
        The Guard acquired its own regiments of light cavalry in general only in the 2th century. The Horse Guards, in their ordinary uniforms, had the same clothes as the dragoons, only the camisole and trousers were red); at the front door - a stab, a hoop and trousers made of deerskin, an iron half-cuirass with copper elements, broadswords on a belt harness, carbines without bayonets with a sling and 1796 pistols each. Equipment and horse gear, like dragoons. Until 1805, the Life Guards Cavalry Regiment was the only regular cavalry regiment in the Russian Guard. Most sources note that the regiment first took part in battles only in 1737. However, this is a delusion. The Cavalry Regiment took its first part in hostilities back in XNUMX, when three out of ten companies of the regiment fought in the capture of Ochakov and in the battle of Stavuchany during the Russian-Turkish war. Around these years, the regiment was located in the barracks near the Smolny Monastery, where the Officer's Cavalry School was later located. During the time of Elizabeth Petrovna (who had the rank of Colonel of the Horse Guards), the Horse Regiment wore a uniform consisting of a cornflower-blue caftan with a red collar, cuffs and lining, red trousers and a camisole of the same color. This uniform was supposed to wear a white tie, gloves with cuffs and a hat with gold lace. The Life Guards Cavalry Regiment was recruited in those days with officers not only at the expense of graduates of military schools and the Cadet
        1. Moore
          Moore 22 March 2021 16: 51
          +1
          Quote: depressant
          Life Guards Cavalry Regiment

          Do not you think that this is a completely different regiment than the Cavalier Guards? It was called so under the Blessed One since 1801 - Life Guards Cavalry Regiment
  • Blackgrifon
    Blackgrifon 21 March 2021 11: 26
    +5
    It is felt from the first lines that the Fan of his business writes! Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, for another interesting and unusual article!
    1. kalibr
      21 March 2021 12: 46
      +6
      Quote: Blackgrifon
      It is felt from the first lines that the Fan of his business writes!

      At one time, I reread everything that came out in the USSR in uniform, sculpted soldiers from plasticine ... Then in the 90s we produced them from white metal painted (more on this) and sold them to the West. And now I have not been doing this for a long time, but the books and magazines remained and were useful. The next article in this series is about the Austrians!
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 21 March 2021 15: 33
        +4
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, thanks for the material. As always, you have picked up bright illustrations.
        Apparently, it is true that they say that a boy sits in every man. With what joy, colleagues are gathering under your firearms, and now the uniform is of interest
      2. Richard
        Richard 21 March 2021 15: 52
        +5
        In the fourth grade, all the boys had a craze - to paint the soldiers of the Astretsov factory with their mother's nail polish. They painted uniforms on hats. belts, shoes. "Silver" and "gold" varnish painted shoulder straps for officers smile
        The reason was the colorful pictures in the textbook
        1. Richard
          Richard 21 March 2021 15: 54
          +6
          Astratsov's set of soldiers "Borodino" 70th. USSR


        2. vladcub
          vladcub 21 March 2021 20: 50
          +4
          I remember this tutorial. In our second grade, it was chic to bring a high school textbook to class. Especially appreciate the 4th and -6th grade .. I was lucky: a distant relative studied in the 8th and he sometimes gave a textbook
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 21 March 2021 15: 22
    +3
    Colleagues, good afternoon. So many difficulties I had with the site.
    In the morning, at 6,40 was yesterday's page in History. I turned off the phone, and then turned it on, a new page appeared. Then he was distracted when she found time and no: "History". Oh and I was angry
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 21 March 2021 15: 52
    +3
    "were downright obsessed with uniformism" Vyacheslav Olegovich, when did uniforms appear in Russia? Perhaps under Alexei Mikhailovich? Or under Grozny?
  • Dmitry Maximov_2
    Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 16: 20
    -1
    Nonsense. As a rule, before the outbreak of hostilities, soldiers and rangers were given 120 charges for training.
  • Dimide
    Dimide 21 March 2021 16: 53
    +1
    If you wish, imagine how for violation of the "uniform" it was possible to "bug" the personnel laughing
    But seriously, beautifully, but completely not practical, no one thought about convenience
    1. TooL
      TooL 22 March 2021 12: 56
      -1
      If you wish, imagine how for violation of the "uniform" it was possible to "bug" the personnel

      Just like it is now. When you grow up and go to the army, you will find out on yourself)
      But seriously, beautifully, but completely not practical, no one thought about convenience

      In general, the military uniform from the civilian did not differ in any way and was as practical as possible. The Form itself, introduced at the end of the 18th century, has been in service for over 150 years, almost unchanged.
      1. Dimide
        Dimide 22 March 2021 14: 46
        -1
        Smiled, thank you "uncle" for the wish, but I don't step on the same rake twice laughing
  • vladcub
    vladcub 21 March 2021 16: 57
    +2
    “to put all the infantry in a jaeger uniform.” V. Oh, for the sake of truth: no one had a protective uniform then. In order not to be mistaken, a protective form appeared, somewhere in the late 19th century
    1. Dmitry Maximov_2
      Dmitry Maximov_2 21 March 2021 17: 16
      -8
      The gamekeepers had a protective uniform. Do you have any problem with that?
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 21 March 2021 17: 32
        +5
        1) we are not familiar enough to poke.
        2) they began to dress the entire army in a protective uniform, at the very end of the 19th century
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 21 March 2021 18: 51
          +5
          we are not familiar enough to poke.
          Support!
          1. depressant
            depressant 22 March 2021 13: 40
            +4
            I also support ...
            Here comes a person who has some knowledge in the raised topic, so share it in a cultural form, a discussion will start, or just approval, support for the version will come. But no! The person looked through the comments, and he began to crumble not at all from their content, but from the friendly atmosphere that was formed from them. And this is his personal psychological tragedy, with which he cannot and does not want to fight. Envy and humiliation in one bottle, turning into hatred. It is preferable for him to feel superfluous and to be affirmed in such a strange way in his exclusivity and even imaginary superiority. You cannot raise yourself above the plinth by humiliating others, but a person, clearly understanding this, can no longer cope with himself. Such are the "pride and prejudice". There are small-swimming ones, there are ...))))
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        3. TooL
          TooL 22 March 2021 12: 57
          -1
          So no one had or only the linear parts? You really define the course of your conflicting thoughts)
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 March 2021 18: 49
        +3
        Do not be rude, and you will not be rude.
        1. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 21 March 2021 21: 11
          +3
          Is he a boor in life or to show off?
    2. BAI
      BAI 21 March 2021 20: 39
      +6
      : Nobody had a protective uniform then.

      A multi-colored uniform was needed so that the fathers-commanders (especially the emperors) could see where which unit is on the battlefield. Especially considering that they (units) were moving in a dense formation. And the multi-colored spots were clearly visible even in the clouds of smoke. Otherwise, how to lead the troops, where to send the adjutant with the order?
    3. Moore
      Moore 22 March 2021 05: 32
      +2
      Even in RYAV, ours fought in white gymnastic shirts (tunics), and the Japanese in blue uniforms with white leggings. They began to repaint exactly after it.
      But not everyone got there. The frogs entered WWI wearing luxurious red pants and individual bowlers for cooking their loved ones.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 22 March 2021 10: 20
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        Not certainly in that way. During the ROE, the command realized that it was necessary to repaint the uniform.
        On the eve of WWI, the frogs began to change: "red revolutionary trousers", but they did not have time to completely. Similarly, with field kitchens, the giraffe on the seventh day realized that field kitchens were needed
        1. Moore
          Moore 22 March 2021 16: 55
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          Quote: vladcub
          During the ROE, the command realized that it was necessary to repaint the uniform.

          I don't argue with that, of course. It's just that the protective uniform was officially introduced in 1907.
  • Moore
    Moore 21 March 2021 19: 06
    +3
    Because combat training in it is practically none from the kings really did not study.

    Was it not under the leadership of Peter I that the Charter of 1716 was developed? And the Charter of Paul I of 1796?
    So, for training in shooting, soldiers at the beginning of the 10th century were issued XNUMX fighting cartridges ... per year. Not a day, not a month, but a year! The gamekeepers were given 120 rounds a year.

    Combat training was basically not an individual, but a "collective" principle.
    Taking into account the effectiveness of rifle fire, 250 steps was more important:
    - to work out the drill coordination of units;
    - to bring to the automatism the actions of the l / s for loading the weapon, reducing the time for this as much as possible;
    - to teach the formation to transfer to buckshot, another formation, regardless of anything.
    Singles were fired much more often.
    In my unenlightened view, the musketeers were given combat cartridges in general so that they would not forget that after biting off the cartridge, filling the gunpowder into the barrel, etc. it is necessary to drive a bullet there.
    Someone thinks that a modern line soldier is given orders of magnitude more ammunition?
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 21 March 2021 19: 11
      +2
      Yeah, a thousand rounds per snout
    2. TooL
      TooL 22 March 2021 13: 02
      +1
      No, just the same they put it on individual firepower training. But this was hampered by limited resources. We open the charter of 1811 and see:
      There is no need to prove how important and necessary it is for soldiers to be trained to shoot whole. Experiments teach that even the very successes in military operations depend a lot on perfection in art.
      For the most successful training to shoot whole, it is prescribed in each battalion to have several wooden shields, painted with black paint, two arshins high and three quarters in height, an arshin wide, [199] in the middle of which to draw across a white stripe four inches wide and the same strip along the upper end of the shields.
      Having put such a shield, teach the soldiers to shoot 40 fathoms, then 80 fathoms, and finally, 120 fathoms.
      At forty and eighty fathoms, the soldiers should aim in the lower lane, and at one hundred and twenty - in the upper lane; first, learn to shoot one by one and without a command, when they learn to apply correctly, then make them shoot on command. Shields are not always set out of the blue, but sometimes transferred to elevated and sometimes sloping places, in these cases the rule adopted for shooting at a target out of the blue cannot remain in full force, skill and skill are very needed when this, in order to hit the target correctly.
      For the instructor, observe that the soldier, loading his gun, pours no more gunpowder on the shelf as needed; would have poured all the gunpowder out of the cartridge into the barrel, it would have nailed it harder and applied well, resting the butt on the right shoulder and supporting the barrel more firmly with the left hand; the rifle would not be sluggishly aiming at a given target so that the target, the end of the muzzle and the butt were in a straight line; so that the soldier is taught to apply whole and nimbly, to make him often put aside from the butt; to remind that at [200] the command would fall, the soldier pulled his finger on the trigger without moving his head or changing the position of the gun, and so that this important rule was observable, order the gun not to lower after the shot, but to leave it on the stock until the command was loaded.
      After each shot, the trainee patiently corrects mistakes, interpreting that they come from the fact that he did not kissed correctly or from the movement of the gun during the shot.
      Every year, during training time, all non-commissioned officers and soldiers in the regiment are trained to shoot at a target, using for this the only most of the gunpowder assigned for the training. Each company has a list of the best shooters.
      A recruit is not taught to shoot at a target before, as when they will be able to properly load and shoot blank charges.
      Behind the shields, make an earthen embankment so that the bullets fired can be more conveniently searched for and used to repeat this doctrine.
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 21 March 2021 19: 30
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    "Flemish cloth" is what kind of fabric?
    1. BAI
      BAI 21 March 2021 20: 50
      +4
      Flemish canvas
      one of the coarse varieties of linen; made from 16-24 mainly combed yarns at 32-40 threads per inch on the warp and weft.
      I don’t know what a "duck" is. In other words - one of the types of canvas.

      Flemish cloth (from the name of the country - Flemish) - thin ravduk (dense linen fabric, canvas canvas). By order of Peter I, factories were built in Yaroslavl and Kostroma producing flam canvas. It was used mainly in the tsarist army for sewing uniforms. There were two types of Flemish cloth: bleached or guards, and half-bleached or army. Flemish canvas from Russia was highly valued abroad and was exported in large quantities, in particular, to America.
      1. kalibr
        21 March 2021 21: 17
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        Quote: BAI
        What is a "duck"

        Not a "weft" - a weft - a transverse (horizontal) system of directing parallel threads in the fabric, located at right angles to the warp system. That is, the warp is in one direction from top to bottom or across, and the weft, respectively, is the opposite arrangement of the threads.
      2. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 22 March 2021 06: 23
        +1
        It seems before the revolution. The canvas was called "damn leather"
  • Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator 22 March 2021 19: 34
    -1
    Everyone is greedy for military fashion. And the sultan was then of practical importance. Linear tactics provides that the commander from the hill could distinguish where which regiment or battalion is and where the officers are non-commissioned officers and where are the privates I think that the article is not bad, but the last statements are definitely superfluous
  • denis nos
    denis nos April 8 2021 03: 15
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    stupidest article