"The USA is our ally when it suits them": Polish readers commented on the first landing of a B-1B bomber in Poland

For the first time in stories B-1B Lancer bomber lands in Poland. He landed at the 33rd Transport Air Base aviationto refuel.

This is reported by the portal Wirtualna Polska.

This was the first refueling of aircraft of this model in Europe, which was carried out with the engines running.

The B-1B did not last long in Poland, but it was a historic event.

- writes the edition.

Last week, Polish Air Force F-16 fighters escorted the aircraft over the Baltic Sea.

Polish readers commented on the first landing of a B-1B Lancer bomber in Poland. Many of them admire the beauty of the American plane, but note that there is nothing for it to do here.

Beautiful car. Fantastic silhouette and color too.

- notes the Polish reader.

Good car. I hope she doesn't get the chance to show her strength.

- writes another, registered under the name Raphael.

The plane is beautiful, but our propaganda made a whole event out of its landing.

- the user under the nickname "Grandpa" sneers.

We don't need American troops here. Not yesterday it became known that the United States and Russia are not on the way, but on land we border on the Russians, not the Americans. The United States is our ally, but only when it suits them. To be clear: my views are not pro-Russian, because it is difficult to name a country in the world that would hurt us more than Russia. But today we have practically no army, and in the event of a conflict, the allies will provide us with the same assistance as always, that is, no assistance.

- argues another Polish reader.

The B-1B arrived at Base 33 with Polish F-16 fighters from Orland Base in Norway, where it is currently deployed. It is a supersonic strategic bomber with a variable sweep wing, which is in service with the United States Air Force.

Comments

[Machito]

The United States is an ally when it suits them.

[xorek]

Quote: Bearded

The United States is an ally when it suits them.

Poles hopefully understand adequate, than it threatens them.?
We in Russia, of course, understand everything, but if something happens, excuse me .. Too much negativity from Poland comes from the time of the collapse of the USSR and Marshal Konev, we remember how you treated him ..!

[Orange bigg]

What difference does it make to what Poles understand and what not, as if they are really independent and decide something. Poland has a master, the United States, who doesn't care about Poland. They use Poland only in their own interests.

McConville said the Army is setting up a 'multidisciplinary task force', the first of which is currently being experimented with in the Indo-Pacific theater of operations. "We are not ready to say where it will actually be located," he said, but noted that Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III is "now in the Pacific" and "a lot of diplomacy is underway." The task force will provide "high-precision long-range effects and high-precision long-range firing, and we are building it, so to speak, while we fly." In addition to hypersonic missiles, medium-range missiles and high-precision strike missiles, it may include air defense systems, McConville said. He noted that the task force has capabilities for intelligence, information operations, cyber warfare, electronic warfare and outer space, "Air Force Magazine reports.

According to experts, the deployment of the MRBM will most likely take place on the territory of Poland or Romania, since at long distances to the Russian borders, the missiles may be ineffective, and at close range they will be destroyed by a direct strike.

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[Tatyana]

"The USA is our ally when it suits them."

That's right!

Poland for the USA is like an Anglo-Saxon sanitary napkin for women with menstruation on critical (for the USA) days.
The USA (Anglo-Saxons) have historically always used and are using Poland from time to time in their interests against Russia, but each time then they throw it away (Poland) used in the trash bin of history. And this continues until the following historical times.
And each time the Polish compradors of "Great Noble" Poland pretend to be indescribably joyful about this to the United States and the collective West.
Hitler's Germany in 1939 and during WWII did not teach Poland anything!

[kenig1]

We will not forgive the Poles of Marshal Chernyakhovsky. The Czechs demolished the monument to Marshal Konev.

[Orange bigg]

Czechs are just servants under the USA. What is the demand from them?

[Tatyana]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Czechs are just servants under the USA. What is the demand from them?

It's the same with the Poles!
The Poles are also bonded and forced into foreign occupation by the local Polish leaders of the national-comprador transatlantic bottling under the United States - like the ruling conservative Law and Justice party Kaczynski and its radical representative, disabled on the head, Antoni Matserevich.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: kenig1

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We will not forgive the Poles of Marshal Chernyakhovsky.

Chernyakhovsky, was an army general.

The restoration of Kaliningrad's German past is opposed by "poorly educated cretins and subhumans." This was stated by the fashion historian, host of the "Fashionable Sentence" program on Channel One Alexander Vasiliev. He is quoted by "Business FM Kaliningrad" on Wednesday, March 10.
There is only one way out - to restore the [Royal] castle. You will not live without this castle, it will still be restored, and if not with this government, with the next one. It is needed there for your tourism. You have to restore it according to the old plan and make it a five-star hotel, if you want - a series of restaurants or concert halls. But the outer forms should be the same - you will have all the photographs of the world, and you will be the richest region. And all those say: "We must not restore the German past" - these are absolutely poorly educated cretins. Do you know this Italian word uno cretino? It's just subhuman. Your bread is your story. All those who say: "This should not be done! We have here Kaliningrad, co-co-co." Why do you call Königsbacker a bakery? Why do all the people call your city Koenig and not Kalik? Because besides the beautiful Cathedral and the forts, unfortunately, there is nothing to show yet, "Vasiliev noted. In his opinion, the House of Soviets in its old or new form will not interfere with the castle, and both buildings" will perfectly coexist on the same territory. "
My personal opinion is that we have something to restore even without the royal castle. Kirkhi in every village and not only Kirkhi.

Mill. p. Kornevo.

[Pastor]

I myself am from Kaliningrad and everyone calls him "Koenig", not Kalik. This is our story. This is the story of our victories. Let everyone know that this is a city of our great past!

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Pastor

I myself am from Kaliningrad and everyone calls him "Koenig", not Kalik

You and "Koenig", be careful .... Regulars of the site may not understand and appreciate - -
For some time now, you know ...
Are you in favor of restoring the Royal Castle?

[Pastor]

I am for the architectural combination of the remake "House of Soviets" and the Royal Castle, without destroying one to recreate the other. If there are no options, then no. Let the forts and churches preserve at least

[kenig1]

I thought about Marshal Rokossovsky, but Chernyakhovsky wrote. I think General of the Army Chernyakhovsky would also become Marshal of the USSR.

[Tatyana]

"The USA is our ally when it suits them."

That's right!

Poland for the USA is like an Anglo-Saxon sanitary napkin for women with menstruation on critical (for the USA) days.
The United States (Anglo-Saxons) historically always use Poland from time to time in their own interests against Russia, but each time they then throw it into the trash can. And so it continues until the next time.
And each time the Polish compradors of "Great Noble" Poland pretend to be indescribably joyful about this to the United States and the collective West.
Hitler's Germany did not teach Poland anything during WWII.

[figwam]

This was the first refueling of aircraft of this model in Europe, which was carried out with the engines running.

Apparently, something went wrong with the refueling in the sky at the B-1; refueling an aircraft that is solving strategic tasks on the ground under the Iskander's noses is very stupid.

[Incvizitor]

I hope that the Russian Federation will not feed this filth anymore when they crawl again.

[nnm]

No, a colleague is an ally, this is when you are there at any, even the most difficult moment. And as it is now with the Baltics, Poland, Ukraine - it's just a rug for the feet at the door. No more.

[knn54]

The Anglo-Saxons (according to their own statements) have no allies, but have interests.
In this case, the irritant / enemy RF-plan "Anaconda" in action.
And what kind of ally does the "cannon fodder" have?

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

Yes, otherwise they never had.

[dauria]

but on land we border with the Russians, not the Americans

The pig realized why it was being fed and scratched behind the ear. I saw fried bacon inadvertently

[Egoza]

Quote: dauria

The pig realized why it was being fed and scratched behind the ear. I saw fried bacon inadvertently

And it reaches the giraffe, albeit for a long time. But what a joy! Well, instead of bread and salt, the population can swing a "broom". The USA clearly did not expect this from the Poles.

[Cat]

Gee, the Poles think that the cardinal will be the haberdasher's ally when the haberdasher needs it?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Gato

Gee, the Poles think that the cardinal will be the haberdasher's ally when the haberdasher needs it?

Therefore, in the United States, derogatory jokes and dirty jokes are told about Poles. Like all discriminatory jokes, jokes about Poles are based on the listener's preconceived notions and affective dislike.

[Cat]

and his affective dislike

"I do not understand these nautical terms of yours" (C)
We have almost no anecdotes about the Poles, because we encountered them in their natural habitat. Why Poles in the USA are considered "rural fools" is a mystery to me

[Cat]

I can remember only one anecdote:
"- Who built the metro in Warsaw?
- Two Poles who dropped the zloty into the sewer manhole "

[Lech from Android.]

How many times Poland has been divided, in the event of a new war there will be nothing to divide ... Poland is putting itself under the knife.

[tralflot1832]

And where are the flights to Barentsukha, before the fence at Novaya Zemlya? They are afraid, And they talked about controlling the NSR, words of the word for the American voter. By the way, if the contingent stays in Norway for more than 11 months, it is exempt from taxes.

[Runway]

Why write nonsense? Look at the nomenclature of TSA for Lancers - the solitaire will turn out.
To control the NSR, two lines are enough (both in the NATO / Yankee air defense zone).
Ground services worked out refueling with the engines of the board (which is clearly not parked in the process).

[tralflot1832]

Where is stupidity, the main purpose of the transfer, control of the activation of our activity in the north. They are simply kept at a distance by the forces of the Northern Fleet. Something and norgs have not appeared on the Kola Peninsula for a long time, except for Maryata of course.

[Runway]

The designation of the airplane, its performance characteristics, worn by the joint venture, the development of actions with the runways of Eastern Europe - what a control over the "activation" (the means of collecting information are more than enough to attract the onboard strategist).
The NSR is the path of our resources to the yellow. Even according to the "forecasts" of our home-grown "patriots in white collars" transit along the NSR (in the future - 10 million tons - tears compared to Suez).
Therefore, stupidity.

[tralflot1832]

And moreover, Suez, delivery to Southeast Asia through Suez $ 68 ton of LNG, along the NSR $ 46 ton. Yes, let them not go, as a result, our LNG is cheaper, Rosatom will soon pull up with its gas carriers. It is surprising VO why Marshal Ustinov's exit to Barentsukha was not consecrated, and especially from the middle of it we are setting a course to the South. The Norgs really liked it, there is a link between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense. And by the way, change the numbers, hydrocarbons along the NSR are 22 million tons.

[Runway]

You walk barefoot on mines.
Yankees, Australopithecus and other Cathars and Malaysia look at their shoulders in Southeast Asia with wide-open eyes (with the device on the Suez and other Routes), and we squint at them in the back. For this reason, the LNG plant in the Khabarovsk Territory "gives birth".
It was written to you about the priority of the NSR for the Russian Federation for the export of raw materials. The NSR transit is dead.
The number of "prospects" of Transit was indicated (slurry and gas for export, this is not a transit, but a sale).
In peacetime, the movement of our military ships through the NSR is controlled along one line (and the strategist does not care about this, as well as the entrance to the air defense zone).

[tralflot1832]

This is your personal opinion, how many bases we have restored to the modern level, and what they do not bring to us!

[tralflot1832]

And how did you tell me everything? Under the USSR, there was a "jump" airfield on Wrangel Island with refueling on the go,



the volume was reported.

[Runway]

Again "past the box office" - soldiers of the RTV Air Defense of the Country and the Anadyr POGO froze body parts on Wrangel.
There was no jump there - the soil for the polar and VTA (middle boards) is like a PM in a jacket pocket.
Delivery by sea, l / with airplane / turntable.
You about Thomas, you about Yerema.

[tralflot1832]

And why should I believe you, you retired from your post in the USSR Ministry of Defense, I talked with the commander of TU 95, a real colonel, Chukchi by nationality. He is a very interesting guy.

[Runway]

You have the right to believe what you see fit. People who served in the 129th RTBr, 25th division of the 11th Air Defense OA will be surprised by the "power of faith." As well as the grandfathers who served the airfields of Tiksi, M. Schmidt, Coal Mines. And also veterans of the Magadan "court" regiment of the ZRV (the only "rear" in the Army, why, ask your colonel).
You don't have to be the USSR Ministry of Defense, it is enough to spend the first 15 years of your life in garrisons and air defense "points" in the Far East (from Russky Island to Anadyr).

[tralflot1832]

Here I agree with you!

[Runway]

Well, nice.

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

Horror, and there are controllers, show you the travel card?

[K150]

Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3

Horror, and there are controllers, show you the travel card?

And who are you to take your word for it?

[Pastor]

Poland already had allies - Germany during the partition of Czechoslovakia, England and France in the 39th. Did it help?

[Usher]

because in the world it is difficult to name a country that would inflict more offense on us than Russia

what is he carrying? Germany did more trouble for them.

[Cowbra]

Figu there. The gentry brought the most troubles to Poland, all sections of Poland were caused precisely by blockheads, multiplied by the stupidity and rudeness of the "noblemen". And next time they will be divided, too, because of the ambition of the new gentry

[The leader of the Redskins]

The plane is beautiful, but our propaganda made a whole event out of its landing.
Not only among the lords! Here on VO there is the same tendency - not just to highlight an ordinary event, but to make a splash out of it and be sure to insert the selected comments there in order to add up to the readers The right impression.

[Cat]

give readers the right impression

Oh, you might think there are some other tendencies on "Censor" or "UP"

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Not only among the lords! Here on VO there is the same tendency - not just to highlight an ordinary event, but to make a splash out of it and be sure to insert the selected comments there in order to give the readers the desired impression.

Quote: Gato

Oh, you might think there are some other tendencies on "Censor" or "UP"

You do not understand then something completely different

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

So there are no other events, and the plane is not even bad, although not ours. But then, suddenly, the Poles noticed that bragging about other people's personal belongings is somehow not correct, especially when these personal belongings are using them, and it looks like a pimp's relationship to a prostitute.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Good car. I hope she doesn't get the chance to show her strength.

and the fool who wrote this understands that if such an opportunity appears, this means automatically that he will die

[sedoj]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and the fool who wrote this understands that if such an opportunity appears, this means automatically that he will die

Working with the Poles, I drew attention to their hypertrophied servility to those in power. I came to the conclusion that their inherent servility is innate. At the same time, they are inherent in greatness in relation to the inferior. They rarely recognize their equal.

[Alex Justice]

Watching Russian films, I drew attention to their hypertrophied servility to those in power. I came to the conclusion that their inherent servility is innate. At the same time, they are inherent in greatness in relation to the inferior. They rarely recognize their equal.
Each office has an icon of Putin, and the cops also have an icon of their general added.

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

Why should he die? Because of the aircraft rating !? I like the specimens of fish I caught, but I also like the fish that I have not caught yet. I'm even glad I have a goal :)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3

Why should he die? Due to the evaluation of the aircraft !?

strain your mosC, read his statement and think, I have no desire to explain the obvious

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

For those who are especially cerebral, I explain that you do not need to scare us, otherwise we can be so scared that all the scarecrows will be in trouble.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

are you generally adequate ?!
What phrase did you take as intimidation ?!

[rocket757]

"The USA is our ally when it suits them": Polish readers commented on the first landing of a B-1B bomber in Poland

Come on ... why is this haberdasher rustling, what and how can he present to the cardinal ???

[rotmistr60]

The B-1B did not stay in Poland for long, but it was historical event.

Licking, bowing and licking the United States again is the lot of Poland and they will not go anywhere from this. It doesn't even matter that the Americans view them, together with the Ukrainians, as Europe's cannon fodder in a possible war. Correctly written by one Polish commentator

The United States is our ally, but only when it suits them.

True, just in case, he emphasized that he did not have pro-Russian views. And suddenly they will come "on a visit" from the relevant authorities.

[Oleg Aviator]

These are jackals. And jackals can only lick from the owner and have no right to vote.

[Prisoner]

Well, and you yourself are not like that? Soul mates, EPRST.

[Ros 56]

Most likely this landing was planned last year, but how much squeal. Let the Poles scratch their turnips, but do they need NATO?

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Bearded

The United States is an ally when it suits them.

Yes, like a sailor mattress in a provincial disco ...
Stand, polkas, in a row! "Dummy" will be glad.

With such an ally, there is no need for enemies.

[Cockroach Zee]

Good car. I hope she doesn't get the chance to show her strength.

Tu-160 is an even better machine. Hopefully you will be able to disappear right at your computer. Zadolbali ...

[Oleg Aviator]

They think so. And in the United States, trochi is different.) There they are kept for jackals who are not a pity to sacrifice.

[kit88]

Beautiful car. Fantastic silhouette and color too.

- Sire, you are beautiful !!!

- What a fantastic color !!!

[iouris]

B-1B is not supersonic.
Are secret CIA prisons still operating in Poland?

[Coconut]

Polish politicians ... I feel sorry for them ... how they became independent ... they trade their butt all the time ... axis

[sedoj]

Quote: Coco

. how they became independent ... all the time they trade backwards.

It’s like the Polish way to trade backwards independently.

[Sands Careers General]

What are they happy about? That the owners paid a visit to the slaves? Still, the wheels would kiss and throw their hats into the air.

[Pavel73]

The last Polish commentary is very balanced. But its author should not forget that relations between Poland and Russia are by no means a one-sided game. Not only the Russians were in Warsaw, but the Poles were also in Moscow. It is a struggle between two nascent empires for dominance in eastern Europe. And it continues to this day, because the anti-Russian idea of ​​"Ukrainians" also came from the Poles. So our grievances are completely mutual, and they can be resolved only from this position.

[Andobor]

Quote: Pavel73

So our grievances are completely mutual.

It makes no sense to talk with the Poles, Poland has been an occupied country for hundreds of years, the occupiers only changed sometimes, there was a corresponding mentality, everything needs to be solved with the current occupiers, who say what they say, the Poles grunt.

[alex007i]

The B-1B did not last long in Poland, but it was a historic event.

Historical, of course, through Poland, who just did not go.
Now the Americans.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: alex007i

Historical, of course, through Poland, who just did not go.

And twice each time. First "drang nah ost", then "drang nah west" ...

[Incvizitor]

Not an ally but a master, they are his slaves, and in case of war, cannon fodder.

[Vasyan1971]

The United States is our ally, but only when it suits them

Naturally. Moreover, proud nobles have always been consumables for their "allies". There were, are and will be. No matter how they puffed up.

... in the event of a conflict, the allies will provide us with the same assistance as always, that is, no assistance.

Exactly! But this is not the main thing. The main thing is that the proud gentlemen still ride this rake ...

[cniza]

The United States is our ally, but only when it suits them. To be clear: my views are not pro-Russian, because it is difficult to name a country in the world that would hurt us more than Russia. But today we have practically no army, and in the event of a conflict, the allies will provide us with the same assistance as always, that is, no assistance.

There are sober thoughts ..., and the essence of the United States is all visible:

[akarfoxhound]

Do you see them offended ... Did Minin and Pozharsky collect the militia against whom, sitting in Moscow,? Well, later on in history we got a pot of latrine for our empress from her throne!

[Zug]

in the world it is difficult to name a country that would hurt us more than Russia in the world it is difficult to name a country that would hurt us more than Russia in the world it is difficult to name a country that would hurt us more than Russia in the world it is difficult to name a country that would hurt us more than Russia in the world it is difficult to name a country that would hurt us more than Russia in the world it is difficult to name a country that would hurt us more than Russia in the world it is difficult to name a country that would hurt us more than Russia-Poor, offended then ... [i ] [/ i]

[Dikson]

Or some kind of technical trouble happened - that's why they sat down .. But most likely - in the light of the upcoming Ukrainian-Russian war - they worked out the version of the jump airfield .. With refueling with the engines running. For speed. Just a safety net. No one in their right mind in Poland will base these aircraft.

[Old26]

Quote: iouris

B-1B is not supersonic.
Are secret CIA prisons still operating in Poland?

And what, the speed of 1,25M has ceased to be supersonic?

[Viktor Afanasev]

Good marketing ploy. Capitalism is capitalism. Profit is above honor, morality and dignity.
Poles are hostages of the situation. But only unhealthy brains can rejoice in such nonsense as the arrival of a beautiful overseas bird ...
As for the Americans themselves, it is quite logical to use Poland as a "jump airfield" ...
It is necessary to strengthen the Kaliningrad region even more, primarily air defense and aviation ...

[horiszahari]

It is strange to read about "many offenses" to the Poles from Russia. In 1609-1618, it was the Poles, represented by Sigismund, who started this eternal quarrel with an attempt to make us offenders, but everything turned out the other way around. Well, let them be offended now: history has given its place to everyone. And in Poland it is not at all enviable and, moreover, not honorable.

[mvg]

Beautiful aircraft.
As far as I understand, they were not jammed, since there is no equipment for launching.

[boriz]

That is, the experience of alliance with Great Britain in 1939. taught nothing?

[Basarev]

As you can see, not only the ship can display the flag. This means that in addition to the fleet, we should engage with all diligence in the development of aviation, even strategic.

[agoran]

On the MiG-27, the TS-21 turbo starter for starting the main engine.
On the Il-76 APU (auxiliary power plant), 1 engine is launched, then the rest.
There is no point in refueling with all the engines running.
Most likely zhurnalyugi again beguiled. One working engine when refueling, yes it is possible, but this is done only at an airfield with increased danger.
That is, with an aggravation of the situation, you can start 2 engines and taxi on the runway, while taxiing, start the rest.

[Old26]

Quote: agoran

On the MiG-27, the TS-21 turbo starter for starting the main engine.
On the Il-76 APU (auxiliary power plant), 1 engine is launched, then the rest.
There is no point in refueling with all the engines running.
Most likely zhurnalyugi again beguiled. One working engine when refueling, yes it is possible, but this is done only at an airfield with increased danger.
That is, with an aggravation of the situation, you can start 2 engines and taxi on the runway, while taxiing, start the rest.

Let's leave accuracy on the conscience of journalists. Nevertheless, the V-1V uses two onboard APUs with a capacity of up to 400 hp for autonomous engine start. sec., which also provide a drive for an emergency electric generator.