Parliamentary report: British armored vehicles are not ready to fight Russian

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Parliamentary report: British armored vehicles are not ready to fight Russian

According to a report by the Defense Committee of the House of Commons of the British Parliament, British armored vehicles are completely unprepared to fight the Russian. And in the event of a direct military clash, the British armored forces would most likely be defeated.

Fragments of the parliamentarians' report were published in the British press.



If the British army had to fight an equal adversary in Eastern Europe in the next few years, our soldiers, certainly remaining one of the best in the world, would, to our deep shame, be forced to fight using outdated and completely outdated armored vehicles.

- noted in the document.

By "equal adversary" London means the RF Armed Forces. They draw attention to the fact that the armored vehicles of the United Kingdom army are significantly inferior to the Russian ones in mechanical reliability and firepower, and they can hardly count on sufficient air support. Often Tanksin service with the UK have been in service for over 30 years, the speakers note.

From all this, the authors of the report conclude that in the event of an armed conflict with Russian tank forces, it may end "not at all in favor of the British army."

Earlier, the newspaper The Times, citing sources in the United Kingdom Armed Forces, reported that the British government is considering the possibility of completely abandoning the use of tanks. This is due to the change in the nature and methods of conducting military operations in modern conditions.
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  1. +13
    14 March 2021 09: 21
    Why are they repenting to him, they still want to go to war with Russia. Maybe in the beginning they will sort out their problems.
    1. +5
      14 March 2021 09: 25
      British armored vehicles are completely unprepared to fight the Russian

      As always, there are a lot of ambitions, but there is no strength!
      1. +3
        14 March 2021 09: 36
        Quote: figvam
        British armored vehicles are completely unprepared to fight the Russian

        As always, there are a lot of ambitions!

        Perhaps the time has come to announce new sanctions against the Russian Federation. lol
        1. +14
          14 March 2021 09: 48
          Why? * After all, there are, for example, Ukraine, Georgia, etc.
          The British have always been able to fight to the last non-British soldier.
          1. +6
            14 March 2021 12: 01
            Russian armored vehicles are, of course, good. Perhaps the best in the world.
            But modern war is not only tank for tank. This is also a whole complex, aviation, drones, electronic warfare, artillery. Well, the infantry, of course, with the means of fighting everything else. Near the sea, naval forces are also added. Financial struggle. Work in the media is also important (perhaps the main one). You miss one aspect, and the enemy does not - and everyone else will lose, no matter what the quality.

            It’s just in the media that the British have no equal. Such fakes are allowed. And if this report to the British parliament, then you can be sure that truth or falsehood is not relevant to the presenter. It is important for him to achieve the allocation of finance for certain companies, and if for this it is necessary to mix truth with lies, he will do it.
            1. +8
              14 March 2021 14: 14
              The complex is made up of separate parts. And it's good when even the enemy admits his weakness in the components.
              1. +5
                14 March 2021 14: 30
                That's just any confessions of the Angles can not be trusted. Never.
                If they admitted that they are weaker in something, this does not mean at all that they themselves think so.
                1. +2
                  14 March 2021 16: 59
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  If they admitted that they are weaker in something, this does not mean at all that they themselves think so.

                  Perhaps, but with armored vehicles they are close to the truth.
                  the question only remained. As I understand it, they intended to fight with us ... Well, well ...
            2. +3
              14 March 2021 23: 46
              Quote: Shurik70
              Such fakes are allowed. And if this report to the British parliament, then you can be sure that truth or falsehood is not relevant to the presenter. It is important for him to achieve the allocation of finance for certain companies, and if for this it is necessary to mix truth with lies, he will do it.

              Definitely. Although they overdid it.
              Often tanks in service with the UK have been in service for over 30 years.

              Where did these tanks come from? If they were completely transferred to the "Challenger-1" by the mid-90s (in the First Gulf War, the old "Chiefton" still managed to take part), and now they have only one "Challenger-2" ....
              They want to increase their tank fleet, or they want to get a new Black Night tank in the troops ...
            3. +2
              15 March 2021 04: 03
              But modern war is not only tank for tank. This is also a whole complex, aviation, drones, electronic warfare, artillery.

              At the Pentagon, American military specialists are working on a secret project Assault Breaker 2, which is dedicated to a strategy to disrupt the rapid offensive of Russia and China in the course of a possible war, Forbes reports.
              Former US Deputy Secretary of Defense Bob Work once mentioned the content of such a plan. "It provided for the use of aircraft detection and target designation, destroying targets by strikes on large areas, as well as surface-to-surface ballistic missiles with homing anti-tank submunitions," the military said. Now the United States wants to get the same system that is capable of destroying the tank masses of Russia and China if a hot conflict with them becomes a reality.
              Installations with missiles of different ranges will be integrated into such a system.
              https://mignews.com/news/technology/110321_103211_97112.html
              Something similar, but already for the protection of Russia, is proposed in an article for August 2006.
              http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren12/asimm_otvet5.htm
        2. +1
          14 March 2021 10: 05
          Quote: LIONnvrsk
          Probably it's time to announce new sanctions against the Russian Federation

          Not well. The reason is iron. Not observing military parity by these Russians. But the lords are above that. Tokmo Novichoks bully
        3. +6
          14 March 2021 11: 07
          British armored vehicles are going to fight Russian ones in Eastern Europe. Well, which of us is the aggressor? What have British armored vehicles forgotten in Eastern Europe? Where are we going to bury them all?
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            1. +7
              14 March 2021 18: 52
              That's for sure. The site is slowly turning from an excellent specialized publication into a tabloid press. I have been reading the site for a long time, although I registered recently. And I see how svezheregi-commentators in political srach become generals, scribbling hundreds of posts in the topic. "Voennoye Obozreniye" turned into another "60 minutes". Sorry...
            2. -1
              14 March 2021 23: 56
              Quote: ROSS_51
              Sometimes it seems to me that there are no normal readers left here .. A bunch of schizophrenics with general's shoulder straps are sitting in a circle, as in a psychiatric hospital, and are raving to each other .. just like you are now ..
              Not noticing that besides themselves, there is no one else to listen to them ..

              Are you rude? In vain. We have subordination and seniority here ...
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          3. +2
            14 March 2021 23: 54
            Quote: Bearded
            What have British armored vehicles forgotten in Eastern Europe?

            Haven't you read the periodicals for the last 30 years? In vain. All the countries of Eastern Europe are part of the aggressive NATO bloc (previously they were all part of the ATS, and even earlier in the alliance of the Axis countries), of which Great Britain is also a member ...
      2. +1
        15 March 2021 09: 30
        Most importantly, I myself do not understand their purpose anymore .... there used to be the USSR with its own idiology and influence on half of the world. and this posed a threat to their capitalist values. Clear. Now the Russian Federation is just a cap country ...... without influence on half of the world, moreover, pay money and participate in business in the Russian Federation. Earn money, a bunch of niches where the horse is not lying around. Everything that you have fought for can simply be bought and made a profit.
        Take, for example, Germany and South Korea ....... while the Britons are wiping tanks and threatening, these are doing so. And very successful for myself.
    2. +6
      14 March 2021 09: 48
      The usual "give money for tanks."
      We are waiting for the next series: "give it to the planes", give it to the ships ", etc., etc.
      1. +1
        14 March 2021 12: 42
        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        The usual "give money for tanks."

        No, they no longer ask for money.
        the UK government is considering the possibility of completely abandoning the use of tanks.

        There is something like: "So, here we are not dancing, but we didn't really want to ..." laughing
      2. +1
        14 March 2021 15: 41
        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        The usual "give money for tanks."
        We are waiting for the next series: "give it to the planes", give it to the ships ", etc., etc.

        They can no longer produce tanks, all factories under the shopping center and elite housing complexes have been sold out for a long time.
    3. +7
      14 March 2021 09: 57
      in the event of an armed conflict with Russian tank forces, it may end "not at all in favor of the British army."

      Oh, as if you (Anglo-Saxons) do not know what to do in case of a threat. winked As always, go to bribe, blackmail, persecute (kill) the political leadership of these countries, or play the countries against each other, as in Ukraine ...
      1. +4
        14 March 2021 11: 07
        Lady! love British tanks need to swim, at least across the English Channel, then into battle lol
        1. +5
          14 March 2021 16: 11
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Lady! love British tanks need to swim, at least across the English Channel, then into battle lol

          They turned out to be not sickly an anti-tank ditch. lol .

          Hi love
        2. 0
          15 March 2021 00: 03
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Lady! love British tanks need to swim, at least across the English Channel, then into battle lol

          You, too, have not read periodicals for the last 30 years. A tunnel was built there long ago ... yes, like that ...
          A railway tunnel under the English Channel was opened 25 years ago. The first to travel by train between France and Great Britain were François Mitterrand and Elizabeth II.

          It is reported by Rambler. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/world/42139225/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
          Don't don't thank ...
          1. 0
            15 March 2021 12: 27
            you must not attack from a certain direction, surprise!
      2. +2
        14 March 2021 11: 51
        Quote: Clear
        or play off countries among themselves, as in Ukraine ...

        "If you were sailing on the ocean and saw two fish fighting among themselves, it means that a British ship sailed here earlier."
        Arabic proverb.
    4. +7
      14 March 2021 10: 05
      Quote: DEVIL LIFE`S
      Why are they repenting to him, they still want to go to war with Russia.

      Russia, for them and others like them, prevents them from robbing the world with impunity.
      1. +4
        14 March 2021 11: 08
        but are we already interfering? in my opinion we are stopping them from robbing us stop , and this is a much more serious jamb request
        1. -2
          14 March 2021 11: 29
          in my opinion we are stopping them from robbing us

          Yes? Well, let's figure out the diagram. Russian bourgeois take out raw materials abroad, sell them for dollars, dollars are taken out to England and buy mansions, estates and football clubs there. Some are even made barons. Russian officials are plundering the budget, dollars are taken to England and bought there mansions, estates and families are transported there. Etc..

          Are you sure that we are exactly what prevent the Naglich people and the rest of the Western bourgeoisie from robbing US ?? what
          1. +3
            14 March 2021 11: 46
            agree, a complicated scheme, the division of Siberia, which they proposed, would simplify everything
            1. -5
              14 March 2021 12: 05
              Why so complicated ??? The possession of Siberia is hemorrhoids, to extract it yourself, to export it, to sell it yourself. And even the devil where. Why - when our type of elite quite successfully does all this for them? Mercilessly exploiting the Soviet legacy?
              1. +3
                14 March 2021 12: 06
                the colonial spirit is still strong in them, they remember the golden times
              2. +3
                14 March 2021 12: 07
                these are new positions, the growth of the army, and new ranks, the expansion of the relevant ministries. the hut will turn in front of the fleet ... they want, oh, they want
    5. +3
      14 March 2021 10: 39
      Finding an external enemy / threat, a great way to distract the population from internal problems!
    6. +3
      14 March 2021 10: 57
      Money is needed, you understand the crisis ... then Russia must be blamed for the fact that British tanks are outdated and cannot fight the Russians ... Old record.
      1. +4
        14 March 2021 12: 08
        but it was not necessary to clean the trunks with bricks
    7. +1
      14 March 2021 11: 39
      Russophobia, like gold and oil, is an extremely profitable commodity in some parts of the world.
  2. +1
    14 March 2021 09: 27
    According to a report by the Defense Committee of the House of Commons of the British Parliament, British armored vehicles are completely unprepared to fight the Russian. And in the event of a direct military clash, the British armored forces would most likely be defeated.

    Where can they intersect?
    In England or Russia?
    Maybe you shouldn't go to Russia?
    And then we won't go to Nagliya. On their tanks.
    1. +3
      14 March 2021 09: 31
      Quote: Victor_B

      Where can they intersect?

      In Londongrad, if the Russian oligarchs bring the tanks.
      1. +7
        14 March 2021 09: 45
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        In Londongrad, if the Russian oligarchs bring the tanks.


        Wife's call to Russian oligarch in London :

        Hello, dear, just the radio said that some nutcase, ignoring the rules, is driving in the opposite lane. Be careful.

        One belay ??? Yes, there are thousands of them !!!
    2. +3
      14 March 2021 09: 57
      Quote: Victor_B
      Maybe you shouldn't go to Russia?
      And then we won't go to Nagliya. On their tanks

      But it's interesting. Will the Octopus cross the English Channel on its own? Do not think what, just wondering ... tongue
      1. +1
        14 March 2021 12: 09
        in good weather, but we have nothing to accompany
    3. 0
      14 March 2021 10: 56
      Quote: Victor_B
      Where can they intersect?

      International politics is a little predictable thing. Anything can be.
      If they decide to create something adequate to Armata, then this is a plus - let them spend it. And if they succeed, which is quite possible, then this is a minus. The stick, as always, has two ends.
      Quote: Victor_B
      In England or Russia?

      Neither there nor there. The presence of a vigorous weapon will not allow this to be done.
    4. +2
      14 March 2021 11: 11
      Quote: Victor_B
      Where can they intersect?
      In England or Russia?
      Maybe you shouldn't go to Russia?
      And then we won't go to Nagliya. On their tanks.

      What if you build a bridge? For your tanks? Straight to the Isle of Britain? They did not believe in the Crimean bridge either, but here it is!
      1. 0
        14 March 2021 11: 23
        Elena, the bridge was built long ago, or rather the tunnel under the Channel.
        1. +3
          14 March 2021 11: 27
          Quote: Free Wind
          Elena, the bridge was built long ago, or rather the tunnel under the Channel.

          So it wasn’t the Russian Federation that built it. And why do we need UNDER the Channel? God forbid the tanks will fill up. Better ABOVE the Channel! (laughing, emoticons don't work for me)
          1. +2
            14 March 2021 12: 10
            I have been fighting for squadrons of flying tanks for a long time
  3. bar
    +1
    14 March 2021 09: 38
    British armored vehicles are not ready to fight the Russian

    On the way, the Gayrop countries are gradually beginning to understand something. If this continues, they may even realize that the easiest way is to conclude a non-aggression pact with Russia and not bother with their Armed Forces.
    1. +9
      14 March 2021 10: 01
      Quote: bar
      On the way, the Gayrop countries are gradually beginning to understand something.

      Hardly. This lobby of the military-industrial complex of England will forgive parliament to increase the military budget and that's it.
      1. +6
        14 March 2021 12: 11
        tankers are offended, they were forgotten
        1. +6
          14 March 2021 16: 20
          Quote: novel xnumx
          tankers are offended, they were forgotten

          And, well done tankers,
          50 legal grams! drinks
    2. 0
      14 March 2021 12: 03
      Funny.
      Please remind me who complies with these agreements
      1. bar
        +1
        14 March 2021 14: 26
        Quote: Roman1970_1
        Please remind me who complies with these agreements

        Russia also observes. Surprise?
    3. 0
      14 March 2021 19: 22
      Quote: bar
      the most common way is to conclude a non-aggression pact with Russia and not bother
      Already concluded with some ... I had to strain.
  4. +1
    14 March 2021 09: 38
    "Equal adversary" - is it in comparison with Britain or all NATO?
    1. +5
      14 March 2021 10: 03
      Quote: Hermit21
      "Equal adversary" - is it in comparison with Britain or all NATO?

      As far as I understand, the British Armed Forces are considered the NATO elite.
      1. 0
        14 March 2021 18: 41
        Quote: Clear
        Quote: Hermit21
        "Equal adversary" - is it in comparison with Britain or all NATO?

        As far as I understand, the British Armed Forces are considered the NATO elite.

        As far as I remember, the most trained troops in NATO (in Europe) have always been German. For example: in the 80s, NATO held a competition between intelligence units and units of the participating countries 6 times, the result: 2 times the British became the best, 4 times the Germans.
  5. +4
    14 March 2021 09: 40
    I remembered "That same Munchausen": "Do you know that no one is fighting in a single-breasted (uniform) now? The war is on the doorstep, and we are not ready!"
  6. wow
    +2
    14 March 2021 09: 47
    These small Britons have already gotten fed up! Why can't they sit quietly on their island?
  7. +2
    14 March 2021 09: 48
    Well, how can you not remember Lavrov - d ... bey bl.
  8. +1
    14 March 2021 10: 06
    The conflict with the Russian army will end not in favor of the British, but they are still going to fight, because
    our soldiers are certainly one of the best in the world
    conceit is off scale. Probably they have forgotten when and in what century the English soldiers (after all, probably not soldiers, but the navy) were considered one of the best. Moreover, they are going to fight in Eastern Europe without even stammering that in the event of a war, they will definitely fly to the islands.
  9. 0
    14 March 2021 10: 15
    in the event of a direct military clash, British armored forces would most likely be defeated

    Are they kidding there?))

    With 100% probability am
    1. +1
      14 March 2021 12: 12
      it would already be defeatism lol
  10. -1
    14 March 2021 10: 18
    Kakly keep the front, there is nothing to worry about.
  11. +1
    14 March 2021 10: 25
    the authors of the report conclude that in the event of an armed conflict with Russian tank forces, it could end "not at all in favor of the British army."

    And the authors did not write under what circumstances such a conflict is likely to happen at all?
    1. 0
      14 March 2021 14: 01
      How, under what circumstances? We must invade the Baltics and Poland! fool necessarily from Belarus! Well, so that everyone would be in business drinks And that's why we have to invade there, I forgot something feel
      1. 0
        14 March 2021 15: 03
        But seriously, a new tank does not shine for Britain, for the sake of 300 units, no one will develop a new car! Only teamwork can help them. In Europe and without them, the tank is being developed by France and Germany, the Britons can only try to cooperate with the United States, but the Yankees somehow do not itch about the new tank and Abrams suits them. Maybe BAE through Britain is trying to push the United States to a new tank. Or maybe on the contrary, the Abrams want to attach to Britain laughing
  12. +2
    14 March 2021 10: 32
    I read and wonder why our opponents have stupid and narrow-minded generals! Are they still living in the last world war and do not understand that the world has already moved to a "remote location"? That in the event of a war there will be nuclear strikes at the decision-making centers at once and further continuation will not make sense, because there will simply be no one to give orders. And they are all worried about some kind of tanks, weirdos ...
  13. +2
    14 March 2021 10: 38
    British armored vehicles are not ready to fight the Russian

    Why, in fact? To destroy Great Britain as a subject of world politics, five or six megaton warheads are enough ...
  14. 0
    14 March 2021 10: 54
    Just give up, I like the house in Ullapool. Until you get to you, how much fuel should Morgunrv and Gren burn?
  15. +2
    14 March 2021 11: 23
    Parliamentary report: British armored vehicles are not ready to fight Russian

    Not even cool. just NOT INTERESTING.
  16. 0
    14 March 2021 11: 27
    This is said by the representative of the country for which the authorship of the tank. Shredded by the British.
  17. 0
    14 March 2021 11: 34
    Is this a real assessment or misinformation being thrown at us?
  18. 0
    14 March 2021 11: 52
    Anglo-Saxons usually "fight" with someone else's hands and then distribute the first trophies!
    They never fought openly, either in the First World War or in the Second ..
    Now they are going to provoke the third again ... They have abstained from luxury, it's time to replenish their treasury again, at the expense of blood ..?
    As they say .. "While the Anglo-Saxons are robbing someone, their economy is on the rise ... As soon as there is no one to rob at once, the recession and crisis .." ..
    Russia is a tidbit for them .. UNBROUGHT in the 90s .. So it starts again ..
  19. 0
    14 March 2021 11: 59
    Everyone will not calm down, apparently they dream of "living under water"
    I don't understand these analysts at all. In a direct clash, it won't even come to armored vehicles. How can they not hammer it into their stupid British heads. How are they going to transport this technique on barges? and will there be anything to be transported after a preemptive strike against Britain?
  20. 0
    14 March 2021 12: 05
    Quote: Fedorovich
    British armored vehicles are not ready to fight the Russian

    Why, in fact? To destroy Great Britain as a subject of world politics, five or six megaton warheads are enough ...

    and you counted correctly good I remember Khrushchev then said to the ambassador "7 missiles are enough to live under water." But given the improvement of special warheads, then just 5-6 will be released drinks
  21. 0
    14 March 2021 12: 52
    Although the budget was cut very much, they recalled that they hadn't cut it for a long time ...
  22. +1
    14 March 2021 12: 59
    I do not believe that the British are so foolish as to declare in parliament that their BT units are insolvent (in the context of conducting a database in the Eastern European theater of operations), tk. firstly: their doctrine provides for the complete withdrawal of all BT units stationed in Europe and the redeployment of the latter in new garrisons in Great Britain itself, and secondly, such statements (having initial data on the quantitative ratio) simply do not carry common sense. For reference: the British Royal Corps has about four hundred Challenger tanks.
  23. 0
    14 March 2021 14: 07
    Parliamentary report: British armored vehicles are not ready to fight Russian
    Who would doubt that. Again Polish natives (always looking in your mouth) will you limit yourself or throw the Sumerians on "Buratina"? These with screams "Heil" again rush to the Volga.
  24. +2
    14 March 2021 16: 12
    Since when have British soldiers "some of the best" in the world? Where did they fight and when? Even if during the Second World War they drove the Poles and other natives ahead of themselves
  25. 0
    14 March 2021 17: 43
    Britain should take into account the fact that on the fields of future battles, the situation with roads / snows and other "hemorrhoids" has changed little since XNUMX.
    In Europe, snow fell for two days - already a universal catastrophe.
    What are you going to do here, dear friends? ..
  26. +1
    14 March 2021 18: 09
    As the English lobbyists indistinctly asking for money. They need to fly to an ally for an internship or visit ours.
  27. +1
    14 March 2021 19: 18
    And where is the link to the report? I will read the original, compare it with the conclusions of your article and ... I don’t believe such news without verification, from the word at all laughing
  28. 0
    15 March 2021 03: 29
    All these reports boil down to one thing - "additional funding is needed." and Russia is presented in the guise of an aggressor, although they themselves do not believe in it.
  29. 0
    15 March 2021 08: 08
    But I sit and wait - when we start a war with Anlia. The dictionary is trying to teach me how to write English with a capital letter, but my hand does not rise to a capital letter. And if the hand rises, then I will not envy England.
  30. 0
    15 March 2021 09: 18
    Who are these brave British soldiers?
    Look at the streets of their cities, there are half or more Asians, Negroes and other "refugees". Are they going to fight?
    Indigenous troops will be recruited directly in the metropolis laughing