"At least half of the helicopters for spare parts": in Greece, they evaluated the results of the purchase of decommissioned OH-58Ds from the USA

In Greece, they were concerned about the results of the operation of the fleet of reconnaissance rotorcraft, recently purchased from the United States.

The acquisition of 70 decommissioned OH-58D Kiowa Warrior reconnaissance helicopters from the United States cost $ 49,7 million. At the same time, at the conclusion of the deal, it was assumed that 10 pieces of equipment would act as a source of spare parts. However, the outcome of the deal looks less optimistic.

According to reliable information, out of 70 helicopters received, at least half will be used as spare parts for servicing the rest.

- estimated in the Greek edition ArmyNow.gr the results of the purchase of the decommissioned OH-58D from the USA.

The purpose of the deal was to strengthen the military power on the islands of the eastern part of the Aegean Sea and Evros, as well as to identify targets and monitor migration flows from Turkey. The United States possessed an impressive fleet of OH-58D helicopters (340 units), which were decommissioned in 2010 due to cost savings, and their tasks were carried out by the AH-64D / E Apache. Having placed an order from Greece, the United States, after only 16 months, transferred the entire purchased batch.

These are the fastest deliveries I have seen in my 15 years in security assistance programs.

- said then a representative of the Greek Defense Cooperation Department following the completion of the shipment of helicopters in 2019.

Comments

[rocket757]

According to reliable information, out of 70 helicopters received, at least half will be used as spare parts for servicing the rest.

Cheese is free only in a mousetrap ...
The minke whales were disposed of successfully !!!

[mitroha]

Having placed an order from Greece, the United States, after only 16 months, transferred the entire purchased batch.
These are the fastest deliveries I've seen in my 15 years.

Of course, we were in a hurry until the "fuckers" turned on the back
God is on you that we are worthless.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: rocket757

Cheese is free only in a mousetrap

A greedy person does not need a knife, you will show him a copper penny ...
And do whatever you want with him!

[rocket757]

The most reasonable usually say - We are not rich enough to buy cheap stuff !!!
It's just a reminder for everyone.

[The leader of the Redskins]

You saw your eyes sho bought, now eat, what would you get out!
Ukrainian folk proverb in free translation)))

[Free wind]

At VO, they took care of the news, two years ago, this is news !!! This is the discovery !!!

[Free wind]

Found it now. Helicopters are transferred free of charge. Greece has allocated $ 52 million for overhaul and transportation. In the article, the indicated figure is in euros, well, it translates as best it can, the main thing is to tyfknut against ovs. Fully equipped 36 helicopters were handed over. 24 training non-combat. And 10 for training technicians. Not for spare parts, but for personnel training. It is possible to remove, change, for example, doors, glass, skis, but who would think of the main elements to be installed from a decommissioned car? So it turns out half are combat, half not. Well, okay, translation costs. Forgive me if you can.

[Flooding]

Quote: Free Wind

Well, okay, translation costs. Forgive me if you can.

it was too free and windy))
I would support the information with a link

[Keyser soze]

it was too free and windy))

Colleague Wind is right. Our news came out on 16.02.2017. The turntables are a gift, 50 million for transport and repairs. What could be the sale of 70 turntables for 50 million ?!

[Avior]

... The Kiova Warrior helicopters were donated to Greece as part of the US government's Excess Defense Articles (EDA) program.

The package reportedly includes 36 fully equipped helicopters, 24 training vehicles without some equipment, and 10 units that can be used as a source of spare parts.

https://военное.рф/2019/329798/
But they did not write on VO that the helicopters were sold.
An anonymous author wrote to give the reader such a false impression.
The Greek article was also distorted
Here it is.

https://armynow.gr/kinal-ti-ginetai-me-epixeirhsiakh-axiopoihsh-kiowa-warrior/?amp

The Greeks just cited gossip, not argued.
In the output, they posed questions like

What is the maintenance and assembly schedule for these helicopters to ensure the maximum number of helicopters available? And what will be the maximum estimated amount?

There is an impression lately that it has become impossible to use articles of anonymous authors on VO as a source of objective information, as soon as you see the work of an anonymous author, you immediately need to recheck.
In this it does not paint, in my opinion: ((((((

[rocket757]

It's a shame, of course, if we bought into the cheap headline ...
And how did it actually happen ???

[Avior]

Judging by the text of the Greek article, the following happened - two deputies from the left opposition in Greece sent a usual parliamentary inquiry - I cited part of it above - about the condition of American helicopters and their use, since there is supposedly "reliable" information that half will be used for spare parts. There is no confirmation of this in the article, the deputies themselves do not assert this.
The helicopters themselves, as they say there, are useful for military purposes and for monitoring the illegal transport of migrants to Turkey.

[rocket757]

In general, a common, internal affair, for us nothing and nothing!
It all depends on how we present it! They did it deftly, but they picked it up because we have everything, different, going on inside and often looking for excuses, confirmation that everything is even worse there !!!
It's a shame, in general ... One calms down that they quoted, in the main, banal common truths ... only out of place.
Thanks for the tip

[venik]

Quote: Avior

The Greeks just cited gossip, not argued.

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Well, not gossip, but the deputy request of the representatives of the Movement for Change ", who referred to some" reliable information "that at least half of the helicopters would have to be" cannibalized "(turned into sources of spare parts) .... In this connection, the request included 4 questions:
1. How much has already been spent?
2. Is it true that the assembly and maintenance program is being delayed due to the fact that many helicopters have expired airworthiness certificates and the service life of the main components and mechanisms?
3. How many helicopters are already fully operational?
4. What is the assembly and T / C schedule to maximize the number of usable machines and what will be the total number?

[Avior]

There is not a word about this reliable information in the deputy's request itself, it is in the article without specifying the source, evidence and, moreover, in the future tense.

[venik]

Quote: Avior

There is not a word about this reliable information in the deputy's request itself, it is in the article without specifying the source, evidence and, moreover, in the future tense.

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Well, what am I talking about?

[Avior]

... who referred to some "reliable information" that at least half of the helicopters would have to be "cannibalized" (turned into sources of spare parts)

The article does not say that this information was indicated by the deputies or that they referred to it.
According to the text, this comes from the author of the article.

[Cowbra]

Fools are not sowed or reaped - they will be born themselves. The last time you tried very hard to please the striped owner - they supported the coup of the black colonels, and then Turkey - and you were left without half of Cyprus. Let's lick them again - they will "help" you again.
They say the truth - you can take a girl out of the village, but not the village from the girl

[Oleg Aviator]

Let them buy. They made their choice. It certainly won't help against the Turks.)

[Prisoner]

"The purpose of the deal was to increase the combat power ...". The original move is to buy relics to increase the power.

[Klingon]

I like the striped habit of calling their guards after the names of the Indian tribes that they themselves destroyed - Kaiowa, Iroquois, Apache, Chinook, Comanche

[kit88]

Yes, you just bought it!
They have been driving for five years and the same batch will be resold further. Well, those who now dream of an F-35.

[Peter Ginburg]

soon this is waiting for Ukraine))))))))