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They were the first: Colt Lightning vs. Winchester

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Rifles "Colt-Lightning" of various calibers with reloading using a sliding forend. It's comfortable. The butt is not removed from the shoulder when firing, the rifle is reloaded with a short movement of the right hand. Thanks to this, in terms of their rate of fire, these Colt guns surpassed all previously known lever systems, and then none of the non-automatic systems in terms of rate of fire surpassed these guns!


A sad lightning snake
An alarming swarm of elements is restless -
And here I stand motionless.
(M. Yu. Lermontov. "Thunderstorm")

Weapon and firms. Today we continue our story about the very first examples of rifles with reloading using a sliding forend. As you know, the M1897 Winchester was very popular among them. He had a chance to serve as a hunter, and a policeman, and a soldier. Although, yes, he was not the first in a series of pump-action shotguns. In the previous article, another example was named - a series of guns by Spencer and Roper. But there was also another curious sample from the constant competitor of Winchester - the company ... Colt. Yes, "Colt" made the well-known revolvers, and then pistols. But business is business. It strives to expand, it strives to capture more and more sales markets, occupies more and more product niches. And one of them, and earlier than Winchester, was occupied by Colt, although in this case it had to play on a foreign field.


Before us is a drawing from a patent for a pump-action reloading mechanism of a gun, invented by the inventor, Doctor of Dentistry William Elliot in 1883. Elliot himself, in turn, used elements of Robinson's 1870 patent and Spencer's 1882 shotgun, but his improvements made the pump rifle more reliable, faster and easier to operate. And it was charged in the same way as "Winchesters" with a bracket - through a side window on the right side of the receiver. This is shown schematically in FIG. 6

To begin with, Colt held a dominant share of the revolver market in the 1880s, but was also quite interested in acquiring a share of the rifle market. This initially manifested itself in the Colt Burgess lever action rifle, leading to the famous alleged agreement between Colt and Winchester that Colt would not manufacture lever action rifles and Winchester would not manufacture revolvers. Well, if this agreement really took place, then Colt was not very positive about it - because in 1884, a year after Burgess's rifle was taken off the market, he introduced a new rifle.


The device of the rifle "Molniya" chambered for the central battle of calibers .32, .38 and .44

The Colt Lightning rifle, introduced in 1884, was designed for the .44-40 cartridge, the most popular pistol cartridge at the time offered for the 1873 Colt revolvers. Colt then released the Lightning in three versions, using a wide range of cartridges from .22 Short to .50-95 Express. More than 185 "lightning" rifles were manufactured, but none have been produced since 000, that is, until now.

They were the first: Colt Lightning vs. Winchester
Rifle "Colt-Lightning" with a round barrel. Photo by Alain Daubresse

The Colt-Molniya carbine, which is also called the Colt-Molniya rifle, is a fairly short carbine with manual pump-action reloading. The three models produced differed primarily in barrel length, but outwardly they all resembled the Winchester Repeating Arms Company and Remington Arms pump-action shotguns.


Colt Lightning. Receiver. Reload window, receiver cover. Pay attention to the horizontal plate at its top. There are two of them - left and right, and these are the shutter stops, which spreads them in both directions when the shutter moves back, but which also prevent it from opening on its own

"Lightning" was actively bought as a weapon for hunting, for sports shooting, and it was also acquired by the San Francisco Police Department. But it should be noted that she never had such popularity as modern rifles with a lever action reloading mechanism.


View of the left side of the receiver and the handguard for reloading. A rearing pony is engraved on the receiver - the symbol of the Colt company

"Lightning" "medium size" was produced from 1884 to 1904. It turned out to be the first Colt rifle to have a sliding bolt. A total of 89 copies of these rifles were produced in three calibers: .777-32, .20-38 and .40-44. Moreover, the highlight of this "line" was that the company produced its famous army revolver in the same calibers. Two versions were produced: the first - a rifle with a barrel length of 40 inches (26 cm) and with a 66-round tubular magazine, and a relatively short carbine with a barrel of 15 inches (20 cm) and a 51-round magazine chambered for .12-44 cartridges , which was used by the police of the city of San Francisco.


In this photo, you can clearly see the oval hole for ejecting the sleeves, as well as the lid attached to the shutter, which moves with it and at the same time tightly closes the hole for ejecting the sleeves.

The small-sized version of the "Lightning" (also known as "Colt-Lightning" second model ") became the first" Kolt "rifle chambered for rimfire cartridges, and it was produced from 1887 to 1904. This sample received its name "gallery rifle" for being used for entertaining shooting in shooting ranges. It was produced even in larger numbers than the previous model: 89 pieces in .912 Short and .22 Long calibers. So, as you can see, it turned out to be the most popular. All metal parts had an excellent blued finish. The barrel was 22 inches (24 cm) long. High-quality walnut wood was used for the stock and butt.


Rifle "Colt-Lightning" chambered for .22 caliber. It differed quite noticeably from the samples for larger cartridges, primarily in the way in which its magazine was loaded. Photo by Alain Daubresse

Finally, the company also produced the "Lightning" model "Express" (in production from 1887 to 1894), but only relatively few of these guns were produced, only 6 copies, and chambered for .496-38 Winchester and .55-50 Express. The barrels could be 95 and 22 inches (28 and 56 cm).


In order to fill the tube magazine of this rifle with cartridges, it was necessary to press on this bronze detail on the left side ... Photo by Alain Daubresse

The firm planned to release two more military versions, one of which could easily be folded, and the other, a large-caliber one, was to be equipped with a bayonet, but they were never produced.


Then, on the right side, the magazine tube was squeezed out just enough to open its neck with the piston head, and cartridges could be pushed into it. Then, by clicking on this bronze detail, the store was put in its original place. Photo by Alain Daubresse

"Winchester", I must say, in this "war of interests" did not remain in debt and responded with the release of three or four models of revolvers (ultra-rare for today), which turned out to be better than the famous "Colts".


Colt-Molniya carbines on their receivers had rings so that they could be hung on the right side of the saddle

Well, then they sat down at the negotiating table (that this was the case, written by many authors, although, of course, no one was holding a candle there!) To discuss the "difficulties" encountered by both firms. It was decided that the Colt would abandon the lever action rifles and the Winchester - the revolvers. So the "Koltovtsy" still won back the "Lightning". And in the end, it was released until 1904.


Exploded view of the "Colt-Lightning" device

However, the Colt company did not produce the sporting rifles themselves until 1957.


Advertising of rifles "Colt-Lightning"

Today the Molniya rifle is produced by the Italian company Uberti, and it is an exact copy of the original Colt product. At the same time, thanks to the use of modern steel and production technologies, Uberti's Molniya can be used with the most modern ammunition.


"Colt-Lightning" company "Uberti", model 1884

They are available in calibers .45 Colt or .357 Magnum, all with a glossy matt walnut stock and a choice of either blued or tarnished. As for the rate of fire, the "lightning" can still beat any "Winchester", because, as Sam Colt himself said, "nothing is faster than lightning».

To be continued ...
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 March 2021 05: 21
    +11
    I envy such a variety of American weapons ... there is everything for every taste and pocket.
    Eh sadness ... all this is not for us.
    Thank you Vyacheslav for the article. hi
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 28 March 2021 06: 06
      +8
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I envy such a variety of American weapons ... there is everything for every taste and pocket.
      Eh sadness ... all this is not for us.
      Thank you Vyacheslav for the article. hi

      Alexey can also be jealous of German, Belgian, Italian, Austrian, English, French, Russian, etc. Variety of weapons! In Russia, there are no restrictions on long-barreled weapons, you can purchase all this for hunting or self-defense and become a happy user! The only question is the amount that you are willing to spend on it!
      Here on the "short-barreled", yes, there is a problem, but you can also go to the Army, the Navy, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Russian Guard, the Special Service - they will give you absolutely free of charge wink hi
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 28 March 2021 06: 25
        +1
        Alas, age and health do not allow us to take your advice. hi
        Ogoloschenka take dogs to scare smile, and so a real weapon to keep in the house is a big risk that it will fall into the wrong hands ... to thieves or an inadequate teenager or child ... it's better to kill me than an innocent person.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 28 March 2021 06: 37
          +22
          Minus mine, Until 1965, in our country, a single-barreled gun could be bought for 8-10 rubles, in any hardware store, upon reaching the age of 14. There were no rampant killings.
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 28 March 2021 06: 56
            +1
            Illegally, you can buy anything if you have money, brains and connections. True, why only is this necessary. For self-defense, it is enough that little knowledge that I have, materials to bungle some kind of deadly device around is full. I am not fond of hunting ... I do not like to kill animals.
            But I love weapons, I have a weakness for a good pistol, rifle, melee weapons and all kinds of non-standard gadgets ... I am always amazed at the inventive gloomy genius of the human mind in the matter of weapons. I'm more afraid of inadequate weapons ... then how lucky. what
            1. Free wind
              Free wind 28 March 2021 07: 40
              +7
              making deadly traps, and God forbid if someone dies, is punished very harshly. added to become about the manufacture of weapons, well, the infliction of grievous, with particular cruelty. It's easier to shoot an adversary.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 28 March 2021 09: 22
                +5
                It's easier to shoot an adversary.
                and dig in without witnesses, or even better, a bag of quicklime and a can of diesel fuel, so that the dogs won't be found later ...!? laughing wink
                1. Free wind
                  Free wind 28 March 2021 10: 04
                  +4
                  Diesel oil is a preservative, and after five years the body may not decompose. request
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder 28 March 2021 10: 39
                    +3
                    Diesel oil is a preservative, and after five years the body may not decompose
                    there, first you need to use a bag of quicklime, and diesel fuel is already for other purposes wink ...
                2. kalibr
                  28 March 2021 10: 48
                  +4
                  In my novel "Three from Ensk" (book 3), corpses are burned in a pit, supplying oxygen there from a cylinder! Horror! And so that at night the fire is not striking, they periodically pour copper sulfate there! Like the British in the blast furnaces in 1940!
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder 28 March 2021 10: 50
                    +2
                    In my novel "Three from Ensk" (book 3), corpses are burned in a pit, supplying oxygen there from a cylinder! Horror! And so that at night the fire is not striking, they periodically pour copper sulfate there!
                    beautiful horror, but quicklime in one bag, easier and cheaper - an oxygen cylinder and copper sulfate, with a canister (10-15 liters) of ordinary solarium !? laughing hi
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 28 March 2021 14: 15
                      +9
                      Well, thanks guys. laughing Denis, you and Alexander just made us happy! And where did you and him have such extensive knowledge in a somewhat dark, if I may say so, business? Practice? He laughed heartily. wink drinks
                      1. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 28 March 2021 14: 50
                        +6
                        Vyacheslav Olegovich missed another laughing he even published his method belay
                        Quote: kalibr
                        In my novel "Three from Ensk" (book 3), corpses are burned in a pit, supplying oxygen there from a cylinder! Horror! And so that at night the fire is not striking, they periodically pour copper sulfate there! Like the British in the blast furnaces in 1940!

                        Worth thinking ... what laughing
                        Greetings Konstantin!
                      2. Intruder
                        Intruder 28 March 2021 19: 27
                        +3
                        Konstantin, good time !!! I don’t know about Alexander, but from myself I can say this, it’s obvious - dark times, like: "90s", sometimes they make their way through the subconscious mind ... drinks
                      3. kalibr
                        29 March 2021 06: 28
                        +2
                        Quote: Intruder
                        "90s", sometimes they make their way through the subconscious mind ...

                        It is there that the 90s are described!
                    2. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 28 March 2021 23: 00
                      +4
                      Two versions: either from fiction, or friends told. No addresses and appearances were announced.
                    3. Catfish
                      Catfish 28 March 2021 23: 33
                      +4
                      "The secret covered in darkness" (c) wassat
                    4. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 28 March 2021 23: 59
                      +3
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      "The secret covered in darkness" (c) wassat

                      And this .. I have a tank .... On batteries ....
              2. kalibr
                29 March 2021 06: 26
                +2
                I have rich people described there. The premises of the company are being renovated - hence the balloon. And they have vitriol at their dacha, they spray them with apple trees.
            2. Astra wild2
              Astra wild2 28 March 2021 16: 56
              +1
              Vyacheslav Olegovich, hello. As far as I remember: "Three from the Sign" - GW and the period after GW. In the GW, no one would hide the corpses. During the GW in Spain, they also did not hide the corpses.
              1. kalibr
                29 March 2021 06: 27
                +2
                Aster! This is BOOK THREE "Emerald palms, golden sand" You have not read it yet!
                1. Astra wild2
                  Astra wild2 29 March 2021 09: 10
                  +1
                  I never read: "three from Ensk". I only know from your words
                2. kalibr
                  29 March 2021 10: 34
                  0
                  And we lost a lot!
                3. Astra wild2
                  Astra wild2 29 March 2021 19: 46
                  +1
                  If they are more interesting than "people and weapons," perhaps they are.
                  Q: I did not like the "people": a) there is no dynamism; b) nonsense with: "Lefoshe" (I wrote to you)
                4. kalibr
                  29 March 2021 21: 55
                  0
                  We need to take and check, that's all ...
      2. Cowbra
        Cowbra 29 March 2021 05: 59
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        Scary!

        winked
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 29 March 2021 07: 21
          0
          Scary!
          The usual process, but what remains on average, from any representative of humanity ...:
  • vladcub
    vladcub 28 March 2021 10: 58
    +6
    "if there is money, brains and connections" the table is almost correctly built. Only the second: I would put the "brains" in the third position: to the fig: "the rich" Buratino "with connections and, to put it mildly, little adequate
  • vladcub
    vladcub 28 March 2021 11: 01
    +8
    Individuals are inadequate and unarmed causes stress
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 29 March 2021 15: 30
    +1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Illegally, you can buy anything if you have money, brains and connections. True, why only is this necessary. For self-defense, it is enough that little knowledge that I have, materials to bungle some kind of deadly device around is full. I am not fond of hunting ... I do not like to kill animals.
    But I love weapons, I have a weakness for a good pistol, rifle, melee weapons and all kinds of non-standard gadgets ... I am always amazed at the inventive gloomy genius of the human mind in the matter of weapons. I'm more afraid of inadequate weapons ... then how lucky. what

    If the weapon is legal, the owner is more often adequate than the owner of the illegal one. So you give more legal weapons! wassat
  • vladcub
    vladcub 28 March 2021 10: 51
    +7
    Until 1905, a combat rifle could be freely purchased in Russia.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 March 2021 07: 21
    +5
    I no longer know what words to choose so as not to seem sycophants. But, after all, it is interesting!
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 28 March 2021 09: 49
      +6
      I agree with you! Favorite article, respect to Olegovich hi good resurrection to all wink
      1. kalibr
        28 March 2021 10: 51
        +6
        Quote: Alien From
        I agree with you! Favorite article,

        Right! Store! Then, well ... like I will give oak (and the same will happen someday), you rewrite them with 90% novelty and you can publish your own book: GUNS AND RIFLES BY COUNTRIES AND CONTINENTS. Just do not forget to go to the addresses of those who give the photo and get permission. And that's it! The book is yours!
        1. Alien From
          Alien From 28 March 2021 11: 51
          +9
          Olegovych! Let's save, write! Chukchi is not a writer-Chukchi reader (this is about himself). Health wink
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 28 March 2021 06: 33
    +14
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    I envy such a variety of American weapons ... there is everything for every taste and pocket.

    Good morning Comrades, yes - this is the reality of our life, in order to be the owner of a firearm in our country, you have to be confused. However, there is nothing impossible and unsolvable, although you have to kill five days in life, on commissions, exams and everything else. Is this a lot? I think not - getting a driver's license is definitely more difficult.
    There is only one negative thing - in obtaining the right to a rifled barrel only after five years of impeccable ownership of a smooth-bore brother. This stops many.
    Although I think that allowing the possession of our good little thing 5,6 for plink and sports shooting did not entail much trouble. For some reason it would have pushed us to create a leisure and sales infrastructure for our gunsmiths.
    Well, patriotic education also won, you can solve other goodies on a national scale. For example demographic. For example, the rights of a father of a family with “three years of experience and one child per family” to a firearm to protect his family!
    Well, somewhere so good day everyone!
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 28 March 2021 06: 46
      +10
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      Although I think that allowing the possession of our good little thing 5,6 for plink and sports shooting did not entail much trouble. For some reason it would have pushed us to create a leisure and sales infrastructure for our gunsmiths.

      Vladislav, welcome!
      I agree 100%. I am the owner of several "trunks", 22 LR also had a chance to use. In my opinion, the smooth-bore "Saiga-12" is a much greater danger to others than a small one.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 28 March 2021 07: 42
        +3
        You know, in the USA, most murders are not committed by "terrible and nightmarish" semi-automatic rifles such as AR-15, AK, FAL, or there PTR91 (Licensed XK91). No, most kills are done with PISTOLS. No, I'm not saying that blacks and Mexican bandits do not have AR15, AK or something else on their hands. But they hold a serious weapon at HOME, it is easier not to light up, well, all that a bandit has expensive - heroin, cash - is at home, therefore the most serious weapon is precisely to protect the house. Yes, the Mac10 is popular, but there are fewer and fewer of them. Moreover, in the hands of a novice shooter. A pump-action shotgun of 12 or even 10 caliber (yes they do too) equipped with 000 buckshot will do much more trouble than the AP15.
      2. Toucan
        Toucan 28 March 2021 14: 17
        +2
        Quote: Bongo
        In my opinion, the smooth-bore "Saiga-12" is a much greater danger to others than a small one.

        The muzzle energy of a 12 caliber cartridge is 3500-4000 J, a 22 caliber cartridge is 250 J. It is obvious which cartridge has more lethal force.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 29 March 2021 15: 36
          0
          Quote: Tucan
          Quote: Bongo
          In my opinion, the smooth-bore "Saiga-12" is a much greater danger to others than a small one.

          The muzzle energy of a 12 caliber cartridge is 3500-4000 J, a 22 caliber cartridge is 250 J. It is obvious which cartridge has more lethal force.

          If a bullet and if you hit. And if the fraction, yes to 150 m? Well, unless, by the sound of a shot to deafen laughing
    2. Obliterator
      Obliterator 28 March 2021 19: 02
      +3
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      Although I think that allowing the possession of our good little thing 5,6 for plink and sports shooting did not entail much trouble. For some reason it would have pushed us to create a leisure and sales infrastructure for our gunsmiths.
      Well, patriotic education also won, you can solve other goodies on a national scale. For example demographic. For example, the rights of a father of a family with “three years of experience and one child per family” to a firearm to protect his family!

      Such a policy can only be pursued by a state-minded government, like the same Stalin. The current managers are of little interest in the safety of citizens and their rifle training in case of war. More weapons - more hemorrhoids for them to control, more crimes with his participation. Plus, it is necessary to change the legislation for this, the construction of infrastructure for this, which in fact does not exist now. It's easier for them to leave it as it is, or even tighten the nuts. As a friend of the LRR inspector told me: "It will be ideal for me if I myself am the only owner of the district."
  • vladcub
    vladcub 28 March 2021 10: 36
    +6
    Lech, I agree 100 times: envy comes from the variety and availability of American firearms.
    V. O's "firearm" was clearly a success. Now I read and think: in addition to America, there is "old Europe, but in Europe there were also curious examples of firearms. Perhaps VO has plans: Delvino, Mauser, Beretta?"
    1. kalibr
      28 March 2021 10: 46
      +4
      Quote: vladcub
      Perhaps V.O has plans: Delvino, Mauser, Beretta?

      Why is it possible? Will be! Only about Mauser there was a whole cycle already: About Mauser with love. Climb up the profile and ... forward. There, in my opinion, 25 articles dedicated to the Mauser.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 28 March 2021 12: 58
        +7
        If only up to 15 years old then: "past the box office"
        1. kalibr
          28 March 2021 13: 44
          +3
          It seems after the 15th
          1. vladcub
            vladcub 28 March 2021 15: 08
            +3
            Then you need to take a closer look
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 29 March 2021 09: 58
              +2
              Then you need to take a closer look

              In 2017, it was. And there was also a cycle "The same age as the German Mauser" - this is about the "three-line". Viktor our Nikolaevich to him a gorgeous continuation-addition has also written about the bayonet. drinks
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 28 March 2021 05: 59
    +9
    Well, now and before the "pump-action" rifles - the rifles got there! Honestly - I was waiting for this article, Vyacheslav Olegovich - met expectations! Thank you so much, especially for the diagrams and photos! The article flew to Hurray again with morning coffee! Deservedly to favorites, we will discuss good
    1. kalibr
      28 March 2021 07: 30
      +10
      There will be more materials about pump action shotguns, including very little-known ones. It will be interesting...
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 28 March 2021 08: 47
        +3
        I have no doubt Vyacheslav Olegovich that it will be interesting as always. hi
        Then I wondered why pump guns were so widespread in the States, and the rest of the world prefers either classic double-barreled guns or self-loading guns? I'm talking specifically about Hunting, pump-action shotguns in Russia are purchased exclusively for self-defense, for all the time I have met only one hunter with a pump-action shotgun. That is, I understand why they are inconvenient, but I do not understand why in the States they stubbornly hunt with them? Traditions?
        1. kalibr
          28 March 2021 10: 44
          +5
          Interesting. There is culture in general, and mentality ... a lot. So "offhand" and you will not say.
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 28 March 2021 06: 00
    +6
    By the way, pump action rifles are also produced by the Henry repeating arms company. https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/pump-action-octagon-rifle/ One rifle, works in both 22LR and 22WMR. If someone wants a rifle with soft recoil, but still suitable for home defense and hunting "varmint" - small game, here you go ... By the way, WMR cartridges from long barrels have a ballistics very comparable to 5.7x28.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 28 March 2021 06: 50
    +5
    Reading advertisements for weapon shops before revolutionary ones, I am simply amazed at the huge selection of weapons. From revolvers to bike races, an excellent weapon for housewives, students and cyclists, to protect against dogs and beggars. Up to quite a sniper rifle. I read in an advertisement that an excellent ladies' hunting rifle, with a telescopic sight, was shot at 200 paces.
    1. kalibr
      28 March 2021 07: 20
      +4
      Ah, Alexander. In any society, even not the most perfect one, you can find its charms and advantages. Italy has excellent roads. Built by Mussolini and that's what they say about it. "So why do you need him ... and upside down!" "And bad people are everywhere!" "So he was good?" "No!" "And the roads?" "The roads are good!" So understand them ...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 28 March 2021 07: 54
        +8
        And I, Vyacheslav Olegovich, although I love weapons, have recently taken up "photo hunting". Like Sharik from Prostokvashino))))
        Moreover, I am lucky - I was at the facility yesterday. Rather, it is reclamation. While studying my questions - I noticed a movement! Something flew into the pipe fence! I crept up, waited about five minutes - I got out!

        Googled - mink!))))
        1. kalibr
          28 March 2021 08: 47
          +9
          What a fun photo! I saw many amusing animals, including at my dacha, but there was no camera at hand.
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 28 March 2021 08: 51
            +5
            And I have, I say, just some kind of holiday! Either the cranes, the ducks swam right under their feet, the roe deer ran (I did not have time to take it off) I’m trying for my daughter - she loves animals. We always go to zoos and keep two cats.
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 28 March 2021 09: 06
              +6
              Leader (Igor) hi - Great hobby good ! Just like in the "Prostokvashino" cartoon, don't try to give photographs to the objects of the photo-hunting (like Sharik) laughing
              And so the air is fresh and a lot of interesting things around, good shots can only be wished!
              Is it not a secret if, what do you shoot and what lens do you use?
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 28 March 2021 09: 14
                +5
                So I'm not on purpose! It goes into the hands! Probably, the beast feels that I am not armed, so it is not afraid! And this is for the soul and for the family (which, however, is the same)
            2. kalibr
              28 March 2021 10: 36
              +7
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              We always go to zoos and keep two cats.

              We also love animals and go to zoos. Were in both Konigsberg and Prague ... There is only one cat. But we feed the street pipe cats.
        2. Free wind
          Free wind 28 March 2021 12: 04
          +8
          My friend had a mink at home, very cool cattle. I took the puppy at the fur farm, culling, there was a stain on the side.
        3. Alien From
          Alien From 28 March 2021 12: 05
          +10
          Thirty years ago, 15 km from me, a fur farm for breeding minks covered with a copper basin ... some of them escaped and bred, now we see them all the time) but it's hard to take a picture, they are very playful. As recently as Friday, my wife and I were returning from the bathhouse in the evening, the same animal as you have in the photo crossed the road. PS I love photo hunting, we go out specially, especially in winter, for a photo session with ungulates good
          1. bubalik
            bubalik 28 March 2021 12: 33
            +7
            I really like photography,

            hi
            Fu! What a stupid game went to - I ran after it for half a day to take a picture! (C) laughing
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            3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 28 March 2021 13: 12
              +8
              Quote: bubalik
              Fu! What a stupid game went to - I ran after it for half a day to take a picture! (C)

              Uh-huh, in the original the phrase ends - “then give the photo for another half day” !!! drinks
        4. Lynx2000
          Lynx2000 28 March 2021 14: 28
          +3
          A photographic gun is a good thing, but at least a smooth barrel for rest in the wild is better to have. yes

          Dynamo is running:


  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 28 March 2021 07: 41
    +10
    It's comfortable. The butt is not removed from the shoulder when firing, the rifle is reloaded with a short movement right hand.

    Hmm ... for some reason I thought that my left hand was on the fore-end, and right on the butt neck.
    1. kalibr
      28 March 2021 08: 49
      +7
      Yes, I had to figure it out ...
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 28 March 2021 09: 25
      +3
      For some reason I thought that the left hand was on the forearm, and the right one was on the butt neck.
      for a right-handed person, but if the opposite, then ... wink
  • Undecim
    Undecim 28 March 2021 08: 46
    +7
    - Carbine "Colt-Lightning", which is also called the rifle "Colt-Lightning"
    - Colt has released the Lightning in three versions, using a wide range of cartridges from .22 Short to .50-95 Express.
    - The three models produced differed primarily in the length of the barrel

    - Two versions were produced: the first - a rifle with a barrel length of 26 inches (66 cm) and with a 15-round tube magazine, and a relatively short carbine with a barrel of 20 inches
    There are certain contradictions in the presentation, so it is worth clarifying.
    The length of the barrel differed, first of all, between the rifle and the carbine. And the models differed in the size of the receiver.

    Above is the Colt-Lightning Large Frame Model, or, as it was also called, the Colt large frame Express rifl.
    It was produced in calibers 38-56-255, 40-60-260, 45-60-300, 45-85-285 and 50-95-300 Express (the last figure is the weight of the bullet).
    The rifle had a barrel length of 28 inches, the carbine was 22 inches. It is believed that 6496 of them were made.
    Below is the Colt-Lightning Medium Frame Model. Produced in calibers .32-20, .38-40 and .44-40.
    The rifle had a 26 "barrel and a 20" carbine.
    The Colt-Lightning Small Frame Model was chambered in 22 Short and .22 Long cartridges with 9,5 to 26 inches round and octagonal barrels.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 28 March 2021 09: 10
    +10
    "Winchester", I must say, in this "war of interests" did not remain in debt and responded with the release of three or four models of revolvers (ultra-rare for today), which turned out to be better than the famous "Colts".
    In total, 9 models of Winchester revolvers are known today, and they are really so rare that it is difficult to find even a photo of some of them. Basically, these are prototypes, sometimes existing in one copy. One model was serially produced - "Winchester Centennial 1876 'Single Action", moreover in very limited quantities.



    The cost of this copy is $ 400.
    1. kalibr
      28 March 2021 10: 38
      +9
      Bravo!!! Bravo! And bravo again!
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 28 March 2021 10: 51
        +9
        There would be a stroke at the article, but with illustrations it will be full of seams. In the comments, then nothing limits me, but in the article it is necessary to observe decency, and there are few of them. Except perhaps in the Winchester Museum in Cody, Wyoming. everything seems to be there.
        1. kalibr
          28 March 2021 12: 32
          +9
          Quote: Undecim
          everything seems to be there.

          You can also try.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 28 March 2021 17: 40
            +4
            You and cards in hand.
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 28 March 2021 11: 24
      +8
      "in very limited quantities," but Vic. Nick, I found it ..
      By God, I did not expect that there was a folding drum at that time.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 28 March 2021 13: 42
      +5
      Quote: Undecim
      Winchester ", I must say, in this" war of interests "did not remain in debt and responded with the release of three or four models of revolvers (ultra-rare for today), which turned out to be better than the famous" Colts ".

      Yes, sho there roarOlvers! In the 20th century, Winchester tried to "become famous" and PP (submachine guns)! But he did not succeed, even worse than with the RevOlvers!
    4. Richard
      Richard 28 March 2021 20: 31
      +3
      One model, "Winchester Centennial 1876 'Single Action", was mass-produced, and in very limited quantities.

      Not only, Victor Nikolaevich
      The first mass-produced pistol under the Oliver Winchester brand was the Volcanic, developed by Smith & Wesson.

      The company went bankrupt in the late 1850s. It was bought by Oliver Winchester, who made it possible for Henry to release new weapons more massively. At that time, it still bore the name "Volcanic". The inscription on the Winchester pistol appeared only in 1866.
      1. Richard
        Richard 28 March 2021 20: 48
        +4
        And here's how such a pistol knife - "Winchester" (.22 Cal)

        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 29 March 2021 15: 49
          0
          Quote: Richard
          And here's how such a pistol knife - "Winchester" (.22 Cal)


          Did they try to copy our LDCs? Not very good laughing
      2. Undecim
        Undecim 28 March 2021 21: 02
        +1
        This is not a pistol, but a revolver.
  • vladcub
    vladcub 28 March 2021 11: 07
    +9
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    I no longer know what words to choose so as not to seem sycophants. But, after all, it is interesting!
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!

    Next time try to say something like: "Again this V. Oh, with a good firearm. We'll have to read" then you will not be suspected of sycophant.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 28 March 2021 16: 20
      +6
      Bravo, man!
      Next time I will definitely use the phrase! laughing
      1. Richard
        Richard 28 March 2021 19: 41
        +4
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I no longer know what words to choose so as not to seem like a sycophant. But, after all, it is interesting!
        Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!

        Always do as this song advises you, and no one will suspect you. yes smile
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 28 March 2021 22: 32
        +6
        "Okay. I'll have lunch. But absolutely no appetite.
        His Highness was a man of his word. He ate only stuffed partridge, julienne and a dozen oysters "(c).
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 29 March 2021 08: 15
          +4
          So as not to be mistaken - "The Adventures of Prince Florizel" in the third episode, when the "chairman" killed the brother of the equestrian
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 29 March 2021 11: 02
            0
            Before you go to Rolls. I was in a hurry.
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 28 March 2021 12: 00
    +6
    "the rifle is reloaded with a short movement of the right hand" ///
    ----
    Probably the left hand?
    The right hand is the trigger.
    The left one is the forend.
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 28 March 2021 12: 15
    +8
    Even if he himself is very far from the topic (as I am from American guns and pistols, here, honestly, I have never shown much interest in this topic), when the author works, as they say, "with a twinkle", it is immediately felt. smile
  • Denimax
    Denimax 28 March 2021 12: 46
    +3
    I'm wondering if there were models with recharging on the longitudinal stroke of the pistol grip? Once upon a time at biathlon competitions there was a similar thing, but there it looked more like a lever.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 29 March 2021 15: 53
      +1
      Quote: Denimax
      I'm wondering if there were models with recharging on the longitudinal stroke of the pistol grip? Once upon a time at biathlon competitions there was a similar thing, but there it looked more like a lever.

      From personal experience, longitudinal reloading is worse than lever reloading, tk. the trunk anyway goes to the side more.
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 28 March 2021 17: 33
    +2
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, off topic. You said that you have publications since 2012, and your profile says: "registered on February 13, 2015".
    What an idiot I am: you have a "second coming"! Forgive me for my tactlessness
    1. kalibr
      28 March 2021 18: 08
      +5
      Aster! I just started writing articles in 2012, because there are a lot of them, so as not to get confused. And they were published on the sites Rumbur, Repin, Popular Mechanics, Pravda.ru, and only then appeared on VO. And now they go to VO, Pravda.ru and Ruskonture. They are also reprinted by Alternate History, The Eye of the Planet, and I Wept. Alas! But I do not record this, of course. And then there are the magazines SECRETS and RIDDLES and SECRETS of the XX century. But I rarely publish there. On VO it is more interesting ... Soon a magazine-supplement to Technology-Youth - "Unknown Story" will begin to be published - there will still be ...
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