"More and more expensive to maintain": the US is discussing the possibility of withdrawing from the Navy aircraft carrier "Harry Truman"

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Joe Biden's administration is considering cutting the country's military budget by $ 14 billion. It is noted that the administration of the 46th President of the United States decided to cut military spending in this way. If such a reduction takes place, then the US budget for 2022 (and for 2021 it was adopted under Donald Trump) will be approximately $ 708 billion.

The main controversy over which items of expenditure need to be cut or completely abandoned are in Congress. At the same time, the administration of Joseph Biden made a proposal to revise two programs: this is the US aircraft carrier fleet, as well as programs for the creation and maintenance of F-35 fighters.



Applicable to aircraft carrier the fleet The United States is invited to consider the feasibility of further operation of the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman. It is noteworthy that this issue was raised even under Trump. The specified warship was commissioned in 1998. He is 23 years old. In this regard, it is difficult to call it old.

In connection with this kind of situation, Congressmen decided to clarify the issue with the commander of the Indo-Pacific Command of the US Navy, Admiral Phil Davidson:

Do you consider the withdrawal from the fleet of this aircraft carrier in fact in the middle of its "life cycle" a reasonable decision?

The American admiral stated the following:

In my opinion, we have no way of replacing this aircraft carrier. It is important for us to maintain the existing potential at sea in the future. I support the law that sets the minimum number of aircraft carriers in the US Navy.

Earlier, US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said that "the number of aircraft carriers in the US Navy should be such that it would be able to respond to any challenge in various" hot spots "of the world." At the same time, the minister had certain disagreements with the admiral.

The military department believes that when putting into service nuclear aircraft carriers of the Gerald Ford type (3 units), one could talk about the removal from service of one or two aircraft carriers of previous generations. According to the American media, citing the US administration, this would save $ 1,5 billion by 2023. It is pointed out that aircraft carriers of previous generations "are becoming more and more expensive to maintain, while their efficiency is decreasing every year." That is why it is proposed to withdraw "Harry Truman" from the naval forces.
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  1. +3
    11 March 2021 17: 04
    They will print $ 2 trillion now, will they really not find money for Truman. Or money, as usual, in Banks, and give it back with%.
    1. +4
      11 March 2021 17: 17
      It looks like the machine is working at the limit, it does not have time to print. Yes, and "oats are expensive today." I mean, paper and paint aren't cheap. hi
      1. +5
        11 March 2021 17: 21
        Blah blah blah. They won't get anything.
      2. 0
        11 March 2021 17: 26
        As in the Russian proverb: They poured water out of the trough without noticing the baby in it. With this Truman, they did not notice that the penguin could be cut down. In the camp of penguin lovers, questions begin to arise, and what we were sniffed. There is no other word for it.
    2. +4
      11 March 2021 17: 56
      Quote: tralflot1832
      $ 2 trillion will be printed now, will they really not find money for Truman

      To print 2 gigabytes and so that the United States does not need markets for this dollar for anything, but here Russia and China are sticking in their wheels, and Russo is more willing to accept the euro as a tourist. How can a poor Yankee live in this capitalist world, besides, even according to the US Constitution, some kind of avik is superfluous. Well appointed Truman and the devil with him
  2. +2
    11 March 2021 17: 05
    Remove the aircraft carrier Harry Truman from the naval forces and build another in its place. This is such a budget cut ............... laughing
    1. +3
      12 March 2021 00: 30
      They also considered plans to reduce the number of heavy nuclear ones to 6 pieces. , but to build an additional ten "light aircraft carriers" VI 40 - 000 tons on the basis and in the dimension of the UDC "America". Thus, operational tensions and presence at sea will increase and costs will decrease.
      And with this aircraft carrier there are very serious problems with power supply, they cannot find reasons, repairs with recharging of the reactor are estimated at 6 billion dollars. ... the military would like to get rid of this good, but Trump at one time decided "to leave it in the ranks for now."
      Now they can write off "Trump's evil". Or withdraw to the reserve.
      1. +2
        12 March 2021 08: 53
        Quote: bayard
        They also considered plans to reduce the number of heavy nuclear ones to 6 pieces. , but to build an additional ten "light aircraft carriers" VI 40 - 000 tons on the basis and in the dimension of the UDC "America".

        Yes, in general, it seems not. This EMNIP was a recommendation of either RAND or someone else, while not that it was recommended to replace heavy AV with light ones, but only to work out the issue of such a replacement ...
  3. 0
    11 March 2021 17: 08
    Yes, let them reduce, write off, the more, the better ...
    Only after all, again, one chatter. The ship is only a little over 20 ... No one can write it off.
    1. 0
      11 March 2021 17: 28
      Quote: Doccor18
      No one can write it off.

      They don't write off, they can and stock
  4. +1
    11 March 2021 17: 11
    Sports competition Strongest man and woman aboard the aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman summer 2018


    only the planes didn't pull the rope, it's a pity
    1. 0
      11 March 2021 17: 37
      so funny.
      Did you think that potential adversary are all nerds with glasses?
      1. +5
        11 March 2021 19: 29
        Quote: Flood
        "More and more expensive to maintain": the US is discussing the possibility of withdrawing from the Navy aircraft carrier "Harry Truman"


        How, remember, on the film-photo workouts give the result good


  5. +8
    11 March 2021 17: 23
    Will this bubble never burst ?! How long will the US external debt grow ?! Or are they planning a large-scale war ..
    1. +15
      11 March 2021 17: 37
      It seems that not during our lifetime ... The United States is absolutely not worried about growing obligations. Thanks to a strong army and the presence of leverage on other countries of the world, the United States can solve problems by force, without intending to pay off debts. And the fact is that the default on American bonds would indeed be a disaster for the American and even global financial markets, not to mention the fact that in this scenario, the foreign exchange reserves of many central banks, a significant part of which are invested in American government bonds (aka Treasuries), will overnight become It is logical that the representatives of the financial sector of the American and world economies will strongly oppose such a scenario. This music will be, if not eternal, then very long-playing.
      1. +8
        11 March 2021 17: 48
        States can solve problems by force without intending to pay off debts

        The problem is that the external debts of the United States are not so critical .. They can put them down and throw them. But after all, the main holders of Treasuries are American funds, for example - the Social Security Fund .. And also a bunch of other smaller ones. How are you going to throw them? This will be a real disaster for America. The entire social network will collapse in one moment. And - everything connected with it .. With all that it implies .. Just think - overnight, for example, blacks will stop paying welfer .. And pension funds?
        1. +10
          11 March 2021 19: 55
          "The problem is that the US external debt is not so critical." ///
          ----
          Most of the US debt is domestic.
          The debt of the US government to its own central bank.
          Central Bank (FRS = Federal Reserve System) - Consolidation 12
          large banks and hundreds of small ones.
      2. +9
        11 March 2021 18: 50
        Quote: WHAT IS
        And the point is that a default on American bonds would indeed be a disaster for the American and even world financial markets, not to mention the fact that in this scenario the foreign exchange reserves of many central banks, a significant part of which are invested in American government bonds (they are Treasuries), will turn to dust overnight

        Turned according to the Cypriot scenario - someone will be appointed suckers and ruled everything at their expense.
        The funny thing is that those who were shod in Cyprus did not go anywhere, apparently waiting for the next session of Razvodilov.
        It will be the same story.
      3. +1
        11 March 2021 21: 20
        Quote: WHAT IS
        It seems that not during our lifetime ...

        So early to die are going? Let's wait another year, maximum two. Now are the times when the financial bubble is snowballing exponentially. The economy of the entire planet can no longer cover the US dollar. Last 2trl. dollars this year, already a supercritical mass. Oh it will blow, so it will blow.
    2. +5
      11 March 2021 18: 49
      If memory is remembered, there were 2005 trillion before 7, and in 21 g it is already 27 trillion.
  6. +3
    11 March 2021 17: 34
    Replace with Wasp and America class UDCs?
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  9. +2
    11 March 2021 18: 17
    I consider the arguments in favor of the withdrawal of the aircraft carrier at least incorrect, if not strange.
    Currently, 10 of the 11 US aircraft carriers are of the Nimitz class. Simply "Harry S. Truman" is one of the young, belonging to the subtype "Theodore Roosevelt".
    In service with aircraft carriers over 23 and 25 years old - USS Nimitz and USS Dwight D. Eisenhower.

    And the savings due to its decommissioning - on the scale of a country like the United States, are small.
    I think it would be much wiser to withdraw other types of weapons besides aircraft carriers - this is a powerful projection of power.
    1. +3
      11 March 2021 19: 35
      Quote: Constanty
      And the savings due to its decommissioning - on the scale of a country like the United States, are small.

      The whole point is to outline specific steps to reduce the aircraft carrier fleet - that's why we started with it. I think that the reduction of the American aircraft carrier fleet itself is not some chaotic process, but a long-term program, and we see its beginning. The widespread use of drones has led to the fact that some of the aircraft carrier-based reconnaissance and strike aircraft will simply not be in demand, and this is already obvious. These mastodons are not suitable for waging a nuclear war - too good a target for those who have missile weapons.
      1. +1
        11 March 2021 19: 44
        In essence, the US aircraft carrier is a forward base. Who said that unmanned aerial vehicles cannot be used in addition to conventional planes.
        The example of China shows that aircraft carriers are still worth building and having -
        especially for a country with ambitions beyond its borders. Nevertheless, the possibilities of the "Nimitze" are incomparably greater.
        1. +2
          11 March 2021 19: 58
          Quote: Constanty
          Who said that unmanned aerial vehicles cannot be used in addition to conventional planes.

          What is the point of keeping a reconnaissance aircraft if the drone can complete its missions and the prices are incomparable?
          Quote: Constanty
          The example of China shows that aircraft carriers are still worth building and having -
          especially for a country with ambitions beyond its borders.

          For us, China cannot be an example - they have 10 times the population, and they can play with aircraft carriers. We do not need this from the word at all.
          Quote: Constanty
          Nevertheless, the possibilities of the Nimitze are incomparably greater.

          When choosing objects for reducing complex equipment, many parameters are taken into account, including whether a major overhaul has been carried out, or only the time is right for it. The same applies to modernization - whether it was carried out or not. I think the Americans have calculated everything, and the choice was not spontaneous.
          1. +1
            11 March 2021 20: 04
            the drone must also take off and land from somewhere. The aircraft carrier is the best solution in remote areas - it provides quick response and possible replacement of an unmanned aerial vehicle.
            And the reasoning about the larger population of China - I apologize, but this explains more why the Russian Federation is not in this league, and "Kuznetsov" is only decoration (while under repair)
  10. +3
    11 March 2021 18: 23
    I don’t understand, money is printed without an account, and it’s expensive to maintain. As they have it in confusion fits, just 1,9 trillion was allowed to be injected into the economy.
    1. +3
      11 March 2021 20: 00
      Dollars DO NOT print endlessly. This is a common misconception.
      Endless typing inevitably leads to inflation and devaluation
      any currency.
      During the 21st century, there have been two "stuffing" (called - "quantitative easing").
      The amount of "stuffing" is calculated so as not to weaken the currency.
      1. +1
        12 March 2021 07: 59
        Collect bucks around the world and send them to the striped ones, and I will laugh at what will become of that America. lol
        1. +1
          12 March 2021 10: 01
          Quote: Ros 56
          Collect bucks around the world and send them to the striped ones, and I will laugh at what will become of that America. lol

          Are you offering to simply return and forget, or do you want to receive in exchange the equivalent of the commodity weight?
          If you just return, then you will simply write off the US debts.
          If returned for American goods, it will lead to a phenomenal rise in US GDP and the standard of living of US citizens.
          1. -2
            12 March 2021 14: 07
            You are greatly mistaken, just these sharomoms will remain with bare butts, and the money will still remain, they will have to bargain with land, like their crazy students banderlog.
  11. +2
    11 March 2021 18: 24
    or else there will be, the crisis is not far off, everyone will not be very
  12. 0
    11 March 2021 18: 46
    This is either some kind of special stupidity or the can is still not given the laurel of Obamot and he decided to surpass him in obamotism.
  13. 0
    11 March 2021 19: 35
    The Amer needs 50% of the fleet for scrap ...
  14. 0
    11 March 2021 19: 36
    It's time to write off 50% of the mattresses of the fleet.
  15. +1
    11 March 2021 19: 38
    If you want to ruin the country - give it an aircraft carrier! We need to offer them to give it to Ukraine! Hetman was removed from the Navy, let the aircraft carrier be introduced)
    1. +7
      11 March 2021 20: 00
      And put it in the Sea of ​​Azov. Here he is needed there! wassat
      By the way, will it pass under the Crimean bridge, or will the superstructures have to be cut?
      1. +1
        11 March 2021 22: 15
        Quote: kit88
        By the way, will it pass under the Crimean bridge, or will the superstructures have to be cut?
        Through Odessa, and there - by dragging.
  16. 0
    11 March 2021 19: 55
    Good news, there would be more of them. The more they write off, the less then drown)))
  17. 0
    11 March 2021 20: 39
    [media = https: //youtu.be/qsUyusL5JrQ]
    Let's listen to the comrades of the Israeli regional committee laughing
  18. +1
    11 March 2021 20: 40
    Amero-lackeys begin to stock up on Vaseline on an industrial scale. Someone of them will urgently need an almost new avik in the near future, at a cost. laughing
    The Indians have their own, the Turks are not an option, will Israel become this sucker again? Fu35 is already there. It's time to buy an avik. Well, not Ukraine, after all. Skakuas don't even have enough money for fuel for one gas station.
  19. 0
    11 March 2021 23: 10
    It's good. Let them take out. And the rest too.
  20. 0
    12 March 2021 09: 18
    You shouldn't be too happy about it, their withdrawal from the squad doesn't suck. They just won't walk, apparently, there won't be a permanent air wing. It is somewhat similar to the existence of Kuzino before the renovation, only the service, even at the minimum, is better.
  21. 0
    12 March 2021 17: 25
    You can donate to Hochland.
  22. 0
    April 20 2021 12: 22
    swung at "sacred cow"? how it did not work sideways, the US military does not forgive when they cut the budget.
  23. 0
    1 June 2021 12: 15
    The Yankees ignited the flames around the world, but they themselves will burn in it !!!

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