Russia has developed a grenade launcher shot to neutralize drones

Special grenade launcher ammunition for defeating and capturing a small drone developed in Russia. The patent for the invention is published on the official website of the Federal Institute of Industrial Property (part of Rospatent).

The creation of a special ammunition was carried out at the Peter the Great Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy. In the description of the patent it is said that the ammunition for the grenade launcher has a warhead and a throwing part, the warhead is made of separate striking elements located inside the body and striking segments fastened together by flexible elements that form a network.

(...) a protective metal container in the form of a cylinder is placed inside the shell of the ammunition to ensure safety, compact placement and directional deployment of the net after a shot

- says the description.

There is no other information about the new ammunition for neutralizing drones, most likely we are talking about a shot for an under-barrel grenade launcher, although there may be other options.

Note that in 2019, the US Department of the Ground Forces filed a patent for a 40-mm grenade for grenade launchers, designed to combat drones. The ammunition consists of two parts - a detachable warhead and a hull. There is a net inside the hull, which should entangle the UAV in flight. This ammunition can be fired from a conventional under-barrel (or any other) 40-mm grenade launcher.

Comments

[alien308]

Who writes the articles? Look at the title. An enemy's voice?

[Pivot]

This means that the Italian Rossi family developed a shot for a grenade launcher.

[nonsense]

now it is still necessary to develop for this grenade shot in Russia the grenade launcher itself! From the RPG-7, you can't shoot up very much - you burn your legs ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: nespich

now it is still necessary to develop for this grenade shot in Russia the grenade launcher itself! From the RPG-7, you can't shoot up very much - you burn your legs ...

The RPG-7 is not the only grenade launcher. Or have you not heard about others? The article says:

This ammunition can be fired from a conventional underbarrel (or any other) 40 mm grenade launcher.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Piramidon

From the RPG-7, you can't shoot up very much - you burn your legs ...

However, a colleague nespich (Dmitry) is still great, I somehow did not think about it, for example.
But I thought about the fuse for this grenade, in general, you need a contactless fuse for the timely triggering of the BP. Have these Kulibins already developed it?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: nespich

Now, for this grenade launcher shot, it is still necessary to develop the grenade launcher itself in Russia! From RPG-7 upwards you can't really shoot

And it seemed to me, the dark one, that according to the photo, the grenade launcher should be fixed on the drone.
https://iz.ru/978845/2020-02-21/v-belorussii-pokazali-ispytaniia-prototipov-udarnykh-bespilotnikov

[Galleon]

Shot for a 40-mm grenade launcher, reticle ... Will not fly far, but you can train on crows
More seriously, I think that they are not fools in GRAU, they will figure out whether this invention is worthy of attention.

[midivan]

Quote: Galleon

Shot for a 40-mm grenade launcher, reticle ... It won't fly far, but you can train on crows

The crows are to blame for that? In my opinion, "crows", these are the developers of this device, or they were going to hunt for TV copters (such white ones) they did not report, or they decided to make money on it, I see no other explanation, since there are more effective means. Of course, I understand that it will look very dashing - an infantryman with a grenade launcher throws a net on Bayraktar, for example, who, 20 km away, launches a missile guided on it ... yeah The network is finally fire! It is the network, not the shrapnel charge I call on Lavrov for help, because there is not enough vocabulary ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: midivan

The network is finally fire! It is the network, not the shrapnel charge

Do you know exactly what kind of ammunition has been developed? Share the reference, be so kind ... Let's laugh together.

[midivan]

Quote: Tank Hard

Do you know exactly what kind of ammunition has been developed?

The description of the patent says that the ammunition for the grenade launcher has a warhead and a propelling unit, the warhead is made of separate striking elements located inside the body and striking segments, fastened together by flexible elements that form a network ... In the article, it seems clear. Well, okay, let there be any ammunition, even the most ... The shooter must visually see the drone and fire a grenade ... what is the range of sight? Binoculars? Radar? Which copter to fire a grenade against? Against a homemade product with a tied grenade? Is this the level of our army?

[Tank hard]

Quote: midivan

The patent description says,

Ivan, you undoubtedly know better than me, apparently read the patent in the original, or maybe you have it on your desk now? Well, throw off a copy here, what does it cost you?

Quote: midivan

... In the article, it seems clear.

And I, out of my own stupidity, do not trust every article on VO. And then how some will begin to write about the "conceptuality" of articles, even the light of ink. I am a dark person, what really ...

[midivan]

Quote: Tank Hard

Ivan, you undoubtedly know better than me, apparently read the patent in the original, or maybe you have it on your desk now?

There's no such thing...

Quote: Tank Hard

I do not trust every article on VO.

Quote: Tank Hard

I do not trust every article on VO.

I've trusted, but not educated, but no knowledge in this matter and experience. But let's fantasize - what could be in such a size and such a method of use? So that you are not too upset and you are not beaten by pride, I confess that I am an ordinary auto mechanic, but from what I have read I can draw some conclusions. So, what are your assumptions, what was put into this unit? I am ready to believe that these guys put cancer in physics and created breakthrough weapons that have no analogues, as we love. Believe me, I'm not joking out of harm, I'm just offended ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: midivan

There's no such thing..

understandably...

Quote: midivan

I've trusted, but not educated, yes, there is no knowledge in this matter and experience

clear...

Quote: midivan

But let's fantasize-

Not a dreamer, alas ...
Without me.

[midivan]

Quote: Tank Hard

Not a dreamer, alas ...
Without me.

Well, we talked, but the beginning was so promising

[Rusticolus]

Well, we talked, but the beginning was so promising

I can fantasize to continue.
Let's say a regular 40mm grenade launcher. Warhead. The minimum charge is + 9-16 conditionally "generating" elements fastened with a thread like a snowflake. When the self-detonation mechanism is triggered due to the charge and energy of the shot, these damaging elements are scattered by a radius of a certain length of threads. An analogue of buckshot cartridges with associated buckshot, only with a slowdown in "opening" and a large caliber. IMHO ... for distances of 100-200 meters. That is, in fact, a little longer than a butterfly net. You can't shoot like that in a city, but in a field, what kind of drones must be annoying to fly at such a distance. But for the protection of beaches, summer cottages, yachts, celebrities, it may do. The paparazzi are just that annoying.

[Reserve buildbat]

A homemade grenade with a tethered grenade can also cause damage. Do you think there is no need to fight them? Or is it necessary to spend not cheap rockets on them?

[voyaka uh]

Australian army special forces train neutralization exercises
enemy drones in a wooded area

[midivan]

Quote: voyaka uh

Australian army special forces train neutralization exercises

This remedy is a cut above 1. Reusable. 2. Low production cost. 3. Develops the motor skills of the fighter's hands, the eye and demands to keep in excellent physical shape.

[mr.ZinGer]

There are two aborigines, one has a black eye.
-Wife
-No, I made a new boomerang, but threw out the old one.

[DMi]

There are drones that throw hand grenades into the trench. I think an ordinary infantryman will say thank you for the opportunity to somehow deal with such "flies".

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: midivan

or they were going to hunt for TV copters (such white ones) Schaub those reports did not lead

Do you think you don't need to shoot down such copters? So that libels about mythical palaces do not appear.

[bars1]

The development for the Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy is somehow too small ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: bars1

The development for the Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy is somehow too small.

Suggest yours, we will discuss.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Tank Hard

Suggest yours, we will discuss.

Here ... I suggest ... not mine! Let's discuss?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Here ... I suggest ... not mine! Let's discuss?

Nikolaevich,

bars1

, is this your next account? Well then, the proposal is the same, we will discuss Your developmenty?

[Nikolaevich I]

If it seems a little, then in addition ...

The US military plans to use SkyNet Mi-5 cartridges against drones weighing up to 25 kg and with a maximum altitude of up to 1000 m. In their opinion, such devices due to their low cost and ease of control can be used by terrorists and saboteurs to track or drop small ammunition on regime objects .

SkyNet Mi-5 cartridge is a fragmented lead bullet consisting of five elements, interconnected by a strong thread. When fired, the bullet is divided into five elements and forms a network resemblance. When hitting the target, heavy elements of the bullet held by the thread entangle and damage the drone.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

If it seems too little, then for an extra ..

Nikolayevich, well, maybe you and your colleague Bars1 are brilliant inventors, of course, I don't know. Develop my darkness, provide your ingenious developments, well, at least drop the links to them. Otherwise, Bars1 immediately doused the military academy of the Strategic Missile Forces with a bad substance, and you immediately stood up for him with your breasts. I immediately realized that only those like you with bars1 can and know everything better than some sort (and is it at all?) Of the Strategic Missile Forces military academy. I don’t know the truth of your brilliant works ...
And I don’t need to send hamsters like me. I fell in love with them as a child.

Quote: Nikolaevich I

The US military plans to use SkyNet Mi-5 cartridges against drones weighing up to 25 kg and with a maximum flight altitude of up to 1000 m. In their opinion,

Well, their opinion is to me here unnecessarily, not for this conversation led. Yours with bars1, genius personal developments where? The question is rhetorical in essence.

[Piramidon]

Quote: bars1

The development for the Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy is somehow too small ...

Perhaps something like a thesis of an ordinary student of the academy.

[Rusticolus]

And not only diploma, there is also postgraduate study and candidate and doctoral studies. And some of them just, for fun, are so itchy in one place that they paste over the toilets with patents. But there are not many of them, and they often have at least some benefit. But there are those for which a dozen useless patents are only additional. line in the application form for the next scientific title.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: bars1

The development for the Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy is somehow too small ...

Perhaps something like a thesis of an ordinary student of the academy.

Believe me, in 2016 in Kolomna on the basis of 924 of the State Center for Unmanned Aviation
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - a lot of issues related to unmanned aerial vehicles were discussed.
Including this.
After analyzing half of the reports, it became clear that there were no means of combating drones at that time - there were not even ideas for the physical elimination of small-sized (up to 100kg) UAVs.
Only the arguments that only electronic means can help terminate communication, while mentioning that the UAV can, if communication or navigation signals are lost, simply continue to carry out the task according to a pre-recorded program (albeit with a loss of accuracy) or with a subsequent exit to the signal zone ...
But, not a single idea for the physical destruction of small-sized UAVs was said.
And then we all saw "moving pictures" from Arab sites, like Phantom-type drones laying small mines from a height of 500 meters right into the hatches of tanks ...
And those, our bright minds from many firms and institutions, who had to think at 360 degrees and understand the future of UAVs - on the near, average. and long-term time planning - were just "out of topic" ...
And by the way, there were a lot of persons, professors, doctors of technical sciences, candidates of technical sciences, VUNC VVS "VVA", NITs TsNII VVS MO, NITS VA V PVO, VNIIPO MES, UZGA, Vega and Kronstadt. ..
Hundreds of people.

That's what's scary - they do that. about which they have no understanding.
Someone understands aerodynamics, someone understands mathematics. someone in algorithms, someone in connection ...
That's all.

The stone flower does not come out.
No one can connect their scattered knowledge into one whole.

Even the list of references that they used in their reports is all foreign.
It was really scary to watch them boast that they increase the noise immunity of video transmission channels using American Intel processors and Tesla graphics superprocessors ...
And without them - it did not work in any way ... That's it, Mikhalych ...

[knn54]

The old man threw the net ...

[Vadim Ananyin]

General to nothing and nothing confirmed by the data.
It is possible in more detail, if there is infa ?!

[Cowbra]

The range is laughable. It is better to equip the company with a powerful household laser. An order of magnitude more powerful than laser pointers - enough:

He, too, will go only for the most primitive UAVs with optical guidance, but the radius is larger, and such UAVs are the most affordable. which means they are more common

[Coconut]

condoms have been tested since the 14th century ... look at drones

[Keer]

From an ordinary double-barreled shotgun, it is two orders of magnitude easier to hit a duck than from a grenade launcher.

[123456789]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: bars1

The development for the Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy is somehow too small.

Suggest yours, we will discuss.

And mb is something from the arsenal of the 1st and 2nd MV: balloons, balloons, mines ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: 123456789

And mb is something from the arsenal of the 1st and 2nd MV: balloons, balloons, mines ...

Do you have designs from that period? Patented? Yours ?! Long-liver?
How it all started ..:
News-

Russia has developed a grenade launcher shot to neutralize drones

In the news-

The creation of special ammunition was carried out at the Peter the Great Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy.

and hereinafter ...
Commentary on the article-

bars1 (Sergey)
Today, 16: 54
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The development for the Strategic Missile Forces Military Academy is somehow too small.

I just wondered (regardless of the development of the domestic, or any other, for example, the United States), and who is this critic, so trashing the military academy of the Strategic Missile Forces? Perhaps he is a genius inventor of weapons systems? Or a design engineer? Or just a topic? I asked a very simple question-

Suggest yours, we will discuss.

However, genius did not condescend to such a plebeian as me. Did not give an answer and did not share a link to his competence
Comments from other brilliant individuals and links to resources and developments, again not their own, immediately went. Although I did not address them, and not about this.
So you decided to shine. Congratulations. Take a pie from the shelf.
I have to agree with one user who argued that sometimes comments and discussions on VO resemble Mr. Petrosyan's humorous show.

[Nikolaevich I]

Call me, comrade (or sir?) Tank Hard! You have your own ideas ... but you must understand the following situation: 1. Some may hesitate to "divulge" their "funny" ideas ...; 2. "Own" ideas were suddenly implemented by "someone" in practice ... and how can you "prove" that you had this idea much earlier than messages about the development of an idea by any design bureau? For example, this has happened to me, and even more than once! Sometimes. I sent my "proposals" to the editors of technical, "paramilitary" magazines, where they "safely" ended their journey ... sometimes, I just did not send them anywhere, fearing that the ideas would seem ridiculous to the "people" ... I have my own "ideas for countering drones; but I refer them to the "category" in which there are already the same level of development, proposals ... in general, nothing "ingenious"!
By the way, I like your proposal to organize a competition-discussion of your own proposals ... or open a "heading" on VO on an ongoing basis like "free patents" ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

You have your own ideas ... but you must understand the following situation: 1. Some may hesitate to "divulge" their "funny" ideas ...;

IMHO. The trouble is not in your own ideas and the embarrassment to voice them. The trouble is that they do not hesitate to throw mud. Well, at least some constructive criticism was, but no. The monologue is conducted downright, like we are the only one D, Artanyan. Although here I also practically do not comment on the weapons or history section. Although I tried to explain that a kind of "revolution" had already taken place in short-bladed weapons, the concept of a frontal cut appeared, but apparently "not into the horse feed". Here, for many, the "finca" is still a "wunderwaffe" among the "short blades". But at least I admit that the "finca" is still quite yourself.

Quote: Nikolaevich I

By the way, I like your proposal to organize a competition-discussion of your own proposals ... or open a "heading" on VO on an ongoing basis like "free patents" ..

On a resource where people like Tatra are one of the "best commentators of the year", all these proposals are meaningless, because there is only enough time to talk about the USSR (USSR-2,3,; ..) and the enemies of communism.

[123456789]

Direction finders, directional microphones, helicopter mines

[Sergej1972]

Ministry of Ground Forces, perhaps an unofficial name? It seems that this ministry (department) has always been called the US Army Department. It is subordinate to the US Department of Defense.

[Sergej1972]

A little off topic. Who knows why the midshipman no longer goes to the website, he is professor and doctor of sciences Yuri Grigorievich Shatrakov? It was always interesting to read his comments. Unlike most of us, sofa experts, he is a real specialist who has made a great contribution to strengthening the country's defense capability. Although on social and political issues, I sometimes allowed myself to discuss with him in the comments.