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"Russia does not have the strength to defeat Poland": Polish readers comment on the Russian response to General Skshipczak

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The former commander of the Polish Land Forces, General Waldemar Skshipchak, gave an interview to Defense24, in which he spoke about the "Kaliningrad bluff" of Russia and once again raised the question of how Russia threatens Poland militarily. The reaction from Russia was not long in coming. So, the governor of the Kaliningrad region, Anton Alikhanov, responded to the words of the former Polish commander-in-chief, calling them a manifestation of a typical retirement complex. The Russian media called on the Polish general to "undergo treatment and calm down."


Russophobia as an integral part of the Polish national idea


In fact, Russian officials and journalists are understandable. Our country has not shown and is not showing any aggressive actions and sentiments towards Poland or the Baltic countries. Moreover, in the opinion of many Russians, Moscow's position even looks too peaceful, opportunistic, especially with regard to the situation of the Russian-speaking population in Latvia.

However, it is impossible to convince Polish politicians and military leaders that Russia has no aggressive plans. The Russian threat is one of the cornerstone myths of the Polish state, an important component of the national idea. After all, if you remove the myth of the Russian threat, what will remain? Poland will lose its romantic aura of "Europe's eastern outpost", and after it - and financial injections, and political support from the United States and the EU. Therefore, the Polish side was so offended by the harsh answers to the words of General Skrypchak.

For example, Defense24 writes that the Kaliningrad region is not an oasis of cross-border economic cooperation, but a highly militarized region. The role of Kaliningrad in Russia's plans, according to the author of the publication, can be compared with the role of Crimea, and Kaliningrad can be called calm with only minor reservations.

The response of the Russian media to the retired general, according to the publication, is an illustration of the "Russian information and propaganda attack." Russia is not interested in an armed conflict, writes the Polish edition, but continues its information attack.


Retired General Waldemar Skshipczak commanded the Polish Army in 2006-2009.

In addition, the Polish publication emphasizes that the Russian media focus their articles on the domestic audience, as well as on the Russian-speaking population of the Baltic countries, and the task of such publications is to convince the audience of Russia's military power and capabilities, as well as Warsaw's anti-Russian position.

Comments from Polish readers on the Russian response to the general


However, can the position of Poland be described in any other way? Russophobia is actively cultivated by the Polish authorities, trying to permeate modern Polish society through and through. And this is perfectly illustrated by the example of the comments of Polish readers. The majority of readers, unfortunately, display an anti-Russian attitude. On the one hand, they write that Russia, they say, is just waiting to, "like in 39, stick a knife in the back of Poland." On the other hand, they boast of some great capabilities of the Polish Army.

Russia does not have the strength to defeat Poland. She will not defeat us alone in a conventional war. For the past 200 years, its "military successes" in relation to Poland have been achieved within the framework of a coalition of invaders or the Soviet Union. At the strategic level, its forces are unable to defeat Poland without the use of nuclear weapons,

- writes a Polish reader.

Another commentator calls the Russians militant, and a certain "Realist" even dug up an interview with the notorious philosopher Alexander Dugin, 23 years ago, in which he writes about the continuity of Russia in relation to the Golden Horde.

Because of the Russian soldiers, we lost several million people, freedom for half a century and a chance for development, like the countries of Western Europe,

- writes another "champion of democracy", forgetting that it was during the PPR that the population of Poland was constantly growing - from 24 million to 38 million people.

Naturally, with such sentiments in Polish society, it is difficult to expect any other statements from politicians or military leaders. I wonder if the coming to power in Poland is at all possible for forces, even if they are neutral towards Russia?
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 10 March 2021 13: 21
    +54
    Well, as they say: the humpbacked grave will fix it.
    1. Vend
      Vend 10 March 2021 14: 14
      +13
      Quote: marchcat
      Well, as they say: the humpbacked grave will fix it.

      Nobody bothers the Poles to check in practice
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 10 March 2021 14: 52
        +21
        Quote: Wend
        Nobody bothers the Poles to check in practice

        If they hadn't interfered, maybe there would have been no Poles already. We do not need it because of the ambitions of some kind of "feathered tree-gouging", to get involved in a military conflict. And this is what our "partners" want so much. I do not think that the majority of the Polish people support the militant tendency (but who is asking them?). Those who pursue such a policy know for sure that they will emerge in any situation (maybe in America, maybe in other EU countries), and they don't give a damn about Poland itself, like Poland, just their own and that's it. On the other hand, it seems like shouting and raising the rating is always useful, especially when you know that the answer will be the maximum concern of the opposite side.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 10 March 2021 16: 55
          +5
          Polish readers boast of some great capabilities of the Polish Army.
          Russia does not have the strength to defeat Poland. She will not defeat us alone in a conventional war. For the past 200 years, its "military successes" in relation to Poland have been achieved within the framework of a coalition of invaders or the Soviet Union. At the strategic level, its (Russian) forces are unable to defeat Poland without the use of nuclear weapons, - writes a Polish reader.

          And what - the use of nuclear weapons against Poland by Russia alone is not enough for the "great" Polish renegades for the disappearance of Poland in the war with the Russian Federation ?!
          1. Yurmy
            Yurmy 11 March 2021 15: 02
            +12
            Reading their comments, you start to think that they are all immortal there, in truth there is no limit to human stupidity
          2. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 12 March 2021 13: 23
            +2
            "... Russia does not have the strength to defeat Poland.
            ..."
            - That about the victory "over Poland" - it's like in that joke.
            And over there - see?
            This is the elusive Joe.
            - What can no one catch?
            No ... - he just nafig nobody needs ...
            Well, they don't catch him.
            8-))
        2. uralant
          uralant 11 March 2021 04: 04
          0
          Quote: NIKNN
          Those who pursue such a policy know for sure that they will emerge in any situation (maybe in America, maybe in other EU countries), and they don't give a damn about Poland itself, like Poland,

          And they have to get used to? Last time we washed and surfaced on the other side of the canal. Moreover, they scampered until September 17, when the Russians arrived, and just at the moment when the ally came.
        3. Vend
          Vend 11 March 2021 12: 35
          +2
          Quote: NIKNN
          Quote: Wend
          Nobody bothers the Poles to check in practice

          If they hadn't interfered, maybe there would have been no Poles already. We do not need it because of the ambitions of some kind of "feathered tree-gouging", to get involved in a military conflict. And this is what our "partners" want so much. I do not think that the majority of the Polish people support the militant tendency (but who is asking them?). Those who pursue such a policy know for sure that they will emerge in any situation (maybe in America, maybe in other EU countries), and they don't give a damn about Poland itself, like Poland, just their own and that's it. On the other hand, it seems like shouting and raising the rating is always useful, especially when you know that the answer will be the maximum concern of the opposite side.

          I think to shout more, nothing more
      2. boris epstein
        boris epstein 10 March 2021 17: 38
        +13
        So in the command-and-staff game, the Poles have already checked and came to the conclusion that Poland will be defeated by Russia in 5 days, and NATO will not come to the rescue.
        1. uralant
          uralant 11 March 2021 03: 55
          -1
          Quote: Boris Epstein
          Poland will be defeated by Russia in 5 days, and NATO will not come to the rescue.

          Why is that? Hitler came to the aid of his ally!
          1. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 13 March 2021 08: 04
            +2
            Quote: uralant
            Why is that? Hitler came to the aid of his ally!

            How would a wolf come to the rescue of a lamb? laughing Provided humanitarian assistance with humanitarian air bombs wassat
      3. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 11 March 2021 09: 59
        +4
        So they tested it twice on their own skin, everything is not enough for them. Well, this is the Polish planida - to be cannon fodder against us.
      4. Simon
        Simon 13 March 2021 11: 04
        -1
        They can bark only from behind the fence!
        1. Vladimir Chiyanov
          Vladimir Chiyanov 15 March 2021 18: 29
          0
          FROM under the fence ... you confused ...
    2. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 10 March 2021 15: 05
      +37
      Quote: marchcat
      Well, as they say: the humpbacked grave will fix it.

      "- It became difficult for me in Poland. Cold and deceitful people live there. I did not know their serpentine tongue. Everyone hiss ... What do they hiss? It was God who gave them such a serpentine tongue for being deceitful." hi M. Gorky. "Old Isergil"
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    3. serg v zapase
      serg v zapase 10 March 2021 21: 50
      +1
      But it’s not true, it won’t fix it!
      1. Russobel
        Russobel 11 March 2021 08: 02
        +2
        But it’s not true, it won’t fix it!

        But it will significantly reduce the number of "hissing" citizens
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    5. Cuba
      Cuba 16 March 2021 11: 20
      0
      nothing will fix them ...
  2. Flooding
    Flooding 10 March 2021 13: 22
    +3
    The rantings of the Polish general can be read at https://inosmi.ru/trend/info_war/
  3. NDR-791
    NDR-791 10 March 2021 13: 23
    +13
    At the strategic level, its forces are unable to defeat Poland without the use of nuclear weapons,
    Are they asking for something? If we cannot do without application, then we will win with application, that's all.
    And in general, usually retired people have some kind of epiphany and they begin to say not what they are ordered to, but what they really think. The mosch did not fit in this frame. So the advice from the governor is correct - haloperidol.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 10 March 2021 13: 31
      +1
      Quote: NDR-791
      At the strategic level its forces are unable to defeat Poland without the use of nuclear weapons

      here you need to understand what the general meant by strategic victory
      maybe "our Polish spirit cannot be broken by the Russians"?
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 10 March 2021 13: 32
        +3
        Quote: Flood
        maybe "our Polish spirit cannot be broken by the Russians"?

        Why break ??? He also slipped the footcloths in. If we're talking about the spirit.
        1. Zug
          Zug 11 March 2021 16: 18
          +1
          A red ball in the mouth and a longer whip will break whoever you want)
  4. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 10 March 2021 13: 24
    +32
    Over the past 300 years, Russian troops have usually been brothers in Warsaw on the way to the main goal - Berlin, Paris, Berlin again ...
    There was, however, a big puncture in the 20s of the last century. And this, apparently, is still spinning the head of the "Great Poles".
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 10 March 2021 14: 13
      +2
      In Europe, they say that Poland is a courtyard through which Russians and Germans go to fight each other.
      But Poland itself does not let us get bored:
      Russian-Polish wars
      Years ---------------------------- Title

      981 -------------- Polish campaign of Vladimir Svyatoslavich
      1018 ------------ Boleslav I's campaign in Kiev
      1030 - 1031 --- Polish campaign of Yaroslav the Wise
      1068 - 1069 --- Kiev campaign of Boleslav II
      1205 ------------ Battle of Zawikhost
      1205 - 1245 --- War for the unification of the Galicia-Volyn principality
      1280 ------------ Lev Danilovich's Krakow campaign
      1558 - 1583 --- Livonian War
      1609 - 1618 --- Russian-Polish War
      1632 - 1634 --- Smolensk War
      1654 - 1667 --- Russian-Polish War
      1733 - 1735 --- War of the Polish Succession
      1768 - 1772 --- Bar Confederation
      1792 ------------ Russian-Polish war
      1794 ------------ Kosciuszko Uprising
      1812 ------------ Patriotic War of 1812
      1830 - 1831 --- November Uprising
      1863 - 1864 ---- January Uprising
      1919 - 1921 --- Soviet-Polish War
      1939 ------------ Polish campaign of the Red Army
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 10 March 2021 14: 21
        +11
        Quote: Bad_gr
        1939 ------------ Polish campaign of the Red Army

        And what's this side?
        Then also count 1944-45.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 10 March 2021 14: 27
          +1
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          And what's this side?
          Did I write somewhere that in all cases Poland attacked us? Sometimes we also went to them, for which there were reasons.
          1. Usher
            Usher 10 March 2021 21: 32
            +1
            Quote: Bad_gr
            Quote: Jacket in stock
            And what's this side?
            Did I write somewhere that in all cases Poland attacked us? Sometimes we also went to them, for which there were reasons.

            At that time, the Polish state did not exist (it left the country and the army to the mercy of fate), and returned back their territories, lost in the 20s. So this so-called Red Army campaign, a typical Overton window.
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 11 March 2021 00: 33
              +2
              Quote: Usher
              At that time there was no Polish state

              "... In a note from the Soviet government, delivered in the morning of September 17, 1939 in Moscow to the Polish ambassador to the USSR, the reasons for the start of the operation were indicated:

              The Polish state and its government virtually ceased to exist. Thus, the agreements concluded between the USSR and Poland were terminated. Left to itself and left without leadership, Poland turned into a convenient field for all kinds of accidents and surprises that could pose a threat to the USSR. Therefore, being neutral hitherto, the Soviet government cannot be more neutral about these facts, as well as about the defenseless position of the Ukrainian and Belarusian population. In view of this situation, the Soviet government issued an order to the High Command of the Red Army to order the troops to cross the border and take under their protection the life and property of the population of Western Belarus, Western Ukraine ...

              I draw your attention to "... the note of the Soviet government, delivered in the morning of September 17, 1939 in Moscow Ambassador of Poland"if Poland has nothing to do with it?
              1. Zug
                Zug 11 March 2021 16: 26
                +1
                Yes, Poland at the time was a sovereign state, although its government ran away but not the essence. Poland was "narrowed" back to the Curzon line. Where its borders, by definition, were supposed to be.
                1. Bad_gr
                  Bad_gr 11 March 2021 16: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Zug
                  Poland was "narrowed" back to the Curzon line. Where, by definition, its borders were supposed to be.

                  I don’t understand something, what are you trying to prove to me? That Poland has nothing to do with expanding its borders at the expense of our territory, and then returning these territories to us again? Our diplomats, who handed the note to the Polish ambassador, thought they had it.
                  1. Zug
                    Zug 11 March 2021 16: 57
                    +1
                    Has, and direct. Was there an ambassador or not by definition: What's the difference?
                    1. Bad_gr
                      Bad_gr 11 March 2021 16: 59
                      0
                      Quote: Zug
                      Has, and direct
                      And what did I write about?
                      1. Zug
                        Zug 11 March 2021 17: 02
                        +1
                        Yes? Maybe I got it wrong, sorry ...
              2. Usher
                Usher 11 March 2021 19: 44
                0
                Quote: Bad_gr
                Quote: Usher
                At that time there was no Polish state

                "... In a note from the Soviet government, delivered in the morning of September 17, 1939 in Moscow to the Polish ambassador to the USSR, the reasons for the start of the operation were indicated:

                The Polish state and its government virtually ceased to exist. Thus, the agreements concluded between the USSR and Poland were terminated. Left to itself and left without leadership, Poland turned into a convenient field for all kinds of accidents and surprises that could pose a threat to the USSR. Therefore, being neutral hitherto, the Soviet government cannot be more neutral about these facts, as well as about the defenseless position of the Ukrainian and Belarusian population. In view of this situation, the Soviet government issued an order to the High Command of the Red Army to order the troops to cross the border and take under their protection the life and property of the population of Western Belarus, Western Ukraine ...

                I draw your attention to "... the note of the Soviet government, delivered in the morning of September 17, 1939 in Moscow Ambassador of Poland"if Poland has nothing to do with it?

                He was the ambassador of the post, in fact he simply conveyed the message and observed the formality that they said they had been warned.
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 10 March 2021 15: 17
          +5
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          Then also count 1944-45.

          This is exactly what was taught in Polish schools during the Soviet Union - the military campaigns of the Republic of Ingushetia / Union against Poland. Father worked there and sent his older brothers to their grandmother in the Urals to study
          1. Clear
            Clear 10 March 2021 19: 20
            +9
            Would be silent too, brave tailors. Let me remind you.
            All in all, from September 1 to October 6, 1939, during the Polish campaign of the Wehrmacht, the "brave" fathers and grandfathers of the warlike General Waldemar Skrypchak held out, and ... request
            And, the "bold" Polish government, even before that, on September 17, darted into the territory of Romania, knocking down all the turnstiles in its path.
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 10 March 2021 19: 32
              +5
              Quote: Clear
              Would be silent too, brave tailors ...
              hi well, modern tolerant it is not customary to remember such important milestones in their own history. It is customary to yap on command: Academician Pavlov is nervous smokes on the sidelines from envy - he only taught the dog to eat on command ...
              1. Clear
                Clear 10 March 2021 19: 43
                +4
                Quote: Pete Mitchell
                Well, it is not customary for today's tolerant to remember such important milestones in their own history.

                Pete, hi they are worse off. Let the Bandera people tell tales about Volhynia.
        3. boris epstein
          boris epstein 10 March 2021 17: 53
          +6
          They should also be reminded that in 1944-1945, together with the Red Army, the 1st Army of the Polish Army under the command of Berling and the 2nd Army of the Polish Army under the command of Sverchevsky fought against Hitler. And before that, in 1941 and early 1942, the Polish army was formed in the USSR under the command of Anders. The USSR, refusing its army, put on shoes, fed, armed 50 soldiers and officers and 000 members of their families. But they refused to fight with the Red Army (this is actually called a betrayal) and went to Iran to the British. And the rule of Poland since 70 was the government of National Accord, not the CPSU (b) of the USSR and not Stalin.
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 11 March 2021 10: 06
            +1
            Quote: Boris Epstein
            They should also be reminded that in 1944-1945, together with the Red Army, the 1st Army of the Polish Army under the command of Berling and the 2nd Army of the Polish Army under the command of Sverchevsky fought against Hitler.

            Here are just the losses of the Red Army and the Polish Army for the liberation of the native land for the Polish army are not comparable - 600 thousand KA soldiers against 12 thousand VP. And they, the scoundrels, are now demolishing monuments to those who saved them from death.
          2. Zug
            Zug 11 March 2021 16: 29
            0
            They betray those with whom they conclude or sign something. The Poles did not come to us for gingerbread. They were brought to them there. So Anderson is of course fools, for that Poland will pay later, but about betrayal it’s like that ...
        4. Zug
          Zug 11 March 2021 16: 23
          0
          Well, that was the trip? In 1919, Poland went and we paid a return visit in 199. How does 1939 have to do with it?
      2. Clear
        Clear 10 March 2021 19: 41
        +3
        Quote: Bad_gr
        In Europe, they say that Poland is a courtyard through which Russians and Germans go to fight each other.
        But Poland itself does not let us get bored:
        Russian-Polish wars
        Years ---------------------------- Title

        981 -------------- Polish campaign of Vladimir Svyatoslavich
        1018 ------------ Boleslav I's campaign in Kiev
        1030 - 1031 --- Polish campaign of Yaroslav the Wise
        1068 - 1069 --- Kiev campaign of Boleslav II
        1205 ------------ Battle of Zawikhost
        1205 - 1245 --- War for the unification of the Galicia-Volyn principality
        1280 ------------ Lev Danilovich's Krakow campaign
        1558 - 1583 --- Livonian War
        1609 - 1618 --- Russian-Polish War
        1632 - 1634 --- Smolensk War
        1654 - 1667 --- Russian-Polish War
        1733 - 1735 --- War of the Polish Succession
        1768 - 1772 --- Bar Confederation
        1792 ------------ Russian-Polish war
        1794 ------------ Kosciuszko Uprising
        1812 ------------ Patriotic War of 1812
        1830 - 1831 --- November Uprising
        1863 - 1864 ---- January Uprising
        1919 - 1921 --- Soviet-Polish War
        1939 ------------ Polish campaign of the Red Army


        Well, if over the centuries, the Russian bear has repeatedly and very sensitively stepped on the tail of an arrogant neighbor, then, not out of malice, but due to the current geopolitics, the "brave" Poles will achieve continuation.
        And if the Anglo-Saxons intervene, then destruction.
        What did they think !?
      3. Cuba
        Cuba 16 March 2021 11: 22
        0
        and in this walk-through courtyard there are many brothels ...
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 10 March 2021 14: 21
      +5
      true, a big puncture in the 20s of the last century

      Actually - is the puncture big? Yes - thanks to the stupidity of Tukhachevsky, Warsaw was not taken then, but if you consider where the Poles were driven from .. After all, then they already occupied Kiev and Minsk, taking advantage of the distraction of the Red Army to other fronts. In fact, stabbing the Soviet country in the back .. And from there, they were driven back .. And all this - in the most difficult times for Russia .. So - I don't see any particular reason for dizziness .. The Poles did not show themselves in any way so special ... Once, even in such a critical situation, their muzzles were trampled. And what were the mriyas ..



      Closed within the borders of the XNUMXth century, cut off from the Black and Baltic Seas, deprived of the land and fossil resources of the South and Southeast, Russia could easily move into a state of second-rate power, unable to seriously threaten Poland's newly acquired independence. Poland, as the largest and strongest of the new states, could easily secure a sphere of influence for itself, which would stretch from Finland to the Caucasus Mountains.
      - Yu. Pilsudsky
    3. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 11 March 2021 10: 04
      +1
      The majority of readers, unfortunately, display an anti-Russian attitude. On the one hand, they write that Russia, they say, is just waiting to, "like in 39, stick a knife in the back of Poland." On the other hand, they boast of some great capabilities of the Polish Army.
      Another desire of the "Great Poles" to become Europe's cannon missiles! Well, if there is nothing else to earn a living with, Poland cannot, then let him work it out like that, with his blood and territory.
    4. silverura
      silverura 12 March 2021 20: 57
      -1
      Over the past 300 years, Russian troops have usually been brothers in Warsaw on the way to the main goal - Berlin, Paris, Berlin again ...
      There was, however, a big puncture in the 20s of the last century.

      Well, they wrote everything correctly, but did not specify the "important" detail!
      When everything was in passing, Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire. In the 20s of the last century, with the so-called - "at a puncture", the army of Petliuri was in the shoulder with the army of Poland against Tukhachevsky. yes hi
  5. knn54
    knn54 10 March 2021 13: 24
    +15
    American military experts, after comparing the military power of Poland and Belarus, believe that in the event of a possible war between these countries, Warsaw is likely to be defeated.
    What then to say about the Russian Federation.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 10 March 2021 14: 00
      +1
      Who attacked? what
  6. K-50
    K-50 10 March 2021 13: 29
    +2
    Let's slap like a cockroach with a slipper and the desert will remain from Poland. crying angry
    1. stalki
      stalki 10 March 2021 13: 51
      +7
      Let's slap like a cockroach with a slipper and the desert will remain from Poland.
      What for? Are we animals? Let them rot in their own juice. Get dirty yet.
      1. Lighten
        Lighten 11 March 2021 23: 55
        0
        You are wrong here. You need to clean this outhouse once. Disgustingly disgusting, but you have to get out in front of the house.
        1. stalki
          stalki 12 March 2021 09: 03
          +1
          You are wrong here. You need to clean this outhouse once. Disgustingly disgusting, but you have to get out in front of the house.

          Will you be the executioner? That is the difference between the Russian world and the Western world, we should not be like the beast. Otherwise, we will become the same as them. No thanks, it's better to be human. Let them rot without our participation.
          1. Lighten
            Lighten 14 March 2021 11: 09
            0
            In the 3-4th century from px. The Slavs lived in the Balkans, Romania, Prussia, France, Poland, Baltic. And where are those Slavs now? Either they were destroyed, as in Romania, or they betrayed the Russian world and so survived. Latins do not hesitate to destroy everything Slavic. Temples of the book. People are peoples. And we are honest but in the end we lose all the time.
            1. stalki
              stalki 14 March 2021 14: 44
              0
              In the 3-4th century from px. The Slavs lived in the Balkans, Romania, Prussia, France, Poland, Baltic. And where are those Slavs now? Either they were destroyed, as in Romania, or they betrayed the Russian world and so survived. Latins do not hesitate to destroy everything Slavic. Temples of the book. People are peoples. And we are honest but in the end we lose all the time.
              You may be losing. And for me, subjectively, this is just one of the battles in the eternal war for humanity.
              Ps And the Slavs still live there and imagine there are people among the non-Slavs too wink
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 10 March 2021 13: 31
    +4
    Not interesting ... from the definition completely and forever.
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 March 2021 14: 28
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      Not interesting ... from the definition completely and forever.


      This is what infuriates them that we ignore their presence and until they annoy us, we forget about them ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 March 2021 14: 31
        +3
        There are many that SHOULD be completely forgotten about.
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 March 2021 14: 33
          +5
          Therefore, they are so heart-rending and screaming ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 March 2021 14: 34
            +2
            They want to carry / leave the memory of themselves for centuries, but ... NOT GIVEN!
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 March 2021 14: 44
              +5
              Already left - the most vile European state, and through the fault of politicians and their exorbitant ambitions ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 10 March 2021 14: 47
                +3
                It stinks, pees, it's unpleasant ... but who exactly shits, in a different, sophisticated form, it is impudent from the islands ... except it is unpleasant, it can also be done in a dangerous way, it is super harmful.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 10 March 2021 15: 02
                  +5
                  So they compete, who will shit more and this is not one century ...
                  1. Clear
                    Clear 10 March 2021 19: 22
                    +4
                    Quote: cniza
                    So they compete, who will shit more and this is not one century ...

                    Humpback will fix ... winked
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 10 March 2021 20: 53
                      +3
                      These, as time shows, cannot be corrected ...
                      1. Clear
                        Clear 11 March 2021 09: 24
                        +3
                        Quote: cniza
                        These, as time shows, cannot be corrected ...

                        Makes it even worse
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 11 March 2021 09: 28
                        +4
                        From anger and hatred, they degrade rapidly ... yes
                      3. Clear
                        Clear 11 March 2021 09: 32
                        +4
                        Quote: cniza
                        From anger and hatred, they degrade rapidly ... yes

                        Then, same-sex marriage can help them. lol
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 11 March 2021 09: 33
                        +4
                        So for this, God punishes them ... yes
  • Captain45
    Captain45 11 March 2021 10: 08
    +2
    Quote: cniza
    This is what infuriates them that we ignore their presence and until they annoy us, we forget about them ...

    "Ay, pug, know it is strong, if it barks at an elephant!" (c) I.A.Krylov "The Elephant and the Pug"
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 10 March 2021 13: 33
    +8
    Yes, tree-sticks, it is clear that Russia is the hyena of Europe (by the way, suddenly - the words of Poland's "molded friend" in WWII laughing ) - afraid to wet tights ... Just like in a joke. "Scary? - Oh, scary! The first time I'm going to fuck this scary."
  • iouris
    iouris 10 March 2021 13: 42
    -9
    Russia is very weak, and Poland is an extremely militarized region hostile to the EU and NATO.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 10 March 2021 13: 58
      0
      Quote: iouris
      Russia is very weak

      All Russia or KOR?
      1. iouris
        iouris 10 March 2021 19: 26
        0
        Why are you already separating? There was no team.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 10 March 2021 19: 49
          0
          Quote: iouris
          Why are you already separating?

          It seemed to you.
          It's just that if you take the Russian Federation, then your words are stupidity. And if KOR, then this is not a springboard for an attack. It can be compared with a "reinforced" outpost, our business will hold out until help from the border detachment or the troops of the district.
          Quote: iouris
          There was no team.

          You, the one who gives such commands ??? belay
    2. VORON538
      VORON538 10 March 2021 14: 41
      -2
      The power of one division of the Strategic Missile Forces is quite enough for this extremely militarized region to become for a certain period (and the life of the planet and the life of a person are 2 different units) one of the most peaceful on planet Earth!
  • jonht
    jonht 10 March 2021 13: 43
    +8
    Why conquer them? Again, to feed, clothe, build factories, place orders ..... For me, to glaze this area and forget about Russophobes forever, but we are kind, let them live for now. wassat
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  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 March 2021 13: 46
    +19
    Russia does not have the strength to defeat Poland. She will not defeat us alone in a conventional war.

    At the conclusion of the pact in 1939, Germany proposed to split Poland in half. To which Stalin replied that he would somehow manage without Poland, they had eaten since tsarist times.
    So, Panov, you offer yourself to someone else as a woman with reduced social responsibility. Russia does not use secondhand.
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 10 March 2021 14: 02
      +2
      You just noticed it! Old nags are not interesting.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 March 2021 14: 38
        +3
        Quote: Alien From
        Old nags are not interesting.

        Yes, the smell of the sweat of an old nag, very annoying smell.
    2. clerk
      clerk 10 March 2021 16: 07
      +1
      ... At the conclusion of the pact in 1939, Germany proposed to split Poland in half. To which Stalin replied that he would somehow manage without Poland, they had eaten since tsarist times.
      Very funny, I have never heard of it. smile Is this somehow documented or a bike?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 March 2021 16: 24
        0
        Quote: clerk
        Very funny, I have never heard of it. Is this somehow documented or a bike?

        Search, you will find. Or maybe the fact that the USSR got from Poland, part of the Polish territory. The territory of Galicia was not considered Polish, but the legacy of Austria-Hungary.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 10 March 2021 13: 49
    +2
    Let them think so longer. Usually, such delusions do not lead anyone to good, let alone these ... winked Forgot to see how their fathers, the commanders and the government in the blink of an eye found themselves behind the Channel.
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 10 March 2021 13: 49
    +4
    a chance for development, like the countries of Western Europe
    The Poles lost their chance because of their universal cunning and kissing fascists.
  • pytar
    pytar 10 March 2021 13: 52
    -4
    However, it is impossible to convince Polish politicians and military leaders that Russia has no aggressive plans.

    Misread Russian media and forums! laughing There is a solid negative towards Poland and the Poles! No.


    Mutual pumping is in progress! The same is harmful for the Poles and for the Russians!
    1. edeligor
      edeligor 10 March 2021 14: 13
      +6
      Hello Boyan! Excuse me, but to consider the results of the search engine's response for the action of Russian propaganda ... it's ridiculous. Give at least one example that has no real background. Poland is a cancer of Russophobia. The funny thing is that genetically, Poles are closer to Russians than everyone else in Europe, even closer to Ukrainians. Paradox!
      1. pytar
        pytar 10 March 2021 16: 16
        +7
        Hello Igor! hi
        Excuse me, but to consider the results of the search engine's response for the action of Russian propaganda ... it's ridiculous.

        My wording was not "Russian propaganda ", "Russian media and forums"... You probably will not argue that in rus-media and forums, there is a lot of negativity towards Poland and the Poles? Look through the comments under the current article! What an anti-Polish intoxication! belay By the way, on the Polish side, it's the same. Although in real life, Poles treat Russians normally, and Russians who hate Poles are rare. So I suppose it's all about propaganda.
        -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------
        Give at least one example that has no real background.

        Your next line is an example:
        Poland is a cancer of Russophobia.

        Replace Poland with Russia, will you like it? Who needs it, why do you need to dig 1000 years ago ?! request After all, everyone will always have some kind of claim ?! The point is what?
        -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
        The funny thing is that genetically, Poles are closer to Russians than everyone else in all of Europe, even closer to Ukrainians. Paradox!

        It's right! The thesis is clearly proved that the relatives are fiercely quarreling! For me, it is necessary to remove all this negative, and taking an example from Western Europeans, Anglo-Saxons, Turks, etc. find topics that connect, positive topics you need! yes Negativity breeds negativity, this is a dead end! hi
    2. Dym71
      Dym71 10 March 2021 14: 31
      +4
      Quote: pytar
      Misread Russian media and forums! laughing There's a lot of negative to Poland and the Poles!

      To some extent, you are right, Boyan, because even in this news on VO, the author Ilya Polonsky, brought only negative comments on Defense24, and there are also healthy ones there! yes
      1. pytar
        pytar 10 March 2021 16: 24
        +6
        To some extent, you are right, Boyan, because even in this news on VO, the author Ilya Polonsky, brought only negative comments on Defense24, and there are also healthy ones there!

        Hi Andrew! hi You're right, it's obvious! good I think this is the situation in the Polish media! It is very similar to the "game" of balls, only here they throw something dirty, very stinking ... sad Someone really needs to set the Slavs against one another! sad And you can't blame the bad West for everything! It seems to me that there are internal forces here interested in such enmity! sad
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 10 March 2021 16: 39
          +1
          Hello Boyan!
          Quote: pytar
          And you can't blame the bad West for everything!

          However, they are the main beneficiary of the Slavic strife.
          Quote: pytar
          It seems to me that there are internal forces here interested in such enmity!

          Of course, both in Poland and in Russia.
          1. pytar
            pytar 10 March 2021 17: 10
            +3
            However, they are ІWest / the main beneficiary from the Slavic strife.

            We Bulgarians have this saying: Kogato dima se carat, bake the third! yes
            / when two fight, the third wins /
          2. Clear
            Clear 10 March 2021 19: 28
            +1
            Quote: Dym71
            and in Russia.

            Lord, Putin himself knows these representatives of the liberal-financial bloc of the Russian government, who, by the way, organized Bolotnaya Square in 12. Only why he does not take measures against them is unclear. request Obviously an agreement.
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 19: 27
          +1
          Quote: pytar
          Someone really needs to set the Slavs against one another!

          It is known to whom. Capitalists on both sides.
          1. pytar
            pytar 10 March 2021 21: 12
            0
            It is known to whom. Capitalists on both sides.

            Perhaps you are right, Makar ... But why are members of the forum on VO participating in this? Most of the comments are polyakophobic! Where is the wisdom of the great people of Russia? Not a bit visible! request
      2. pytar
        pytar 10 March 2021 17: 08
        +2
        author Ilya Polonsky brought only negative

        By the way, I'm interested in the author's name! Polonsky! bully Polonia (lat. Polonia - Poland) or the Polish diaspora are all Poles living outside Poland.
        Polonia is a definition of people who retain their Polish roots and their relationship with Poland, but were born outside the country. They maintain a connection with folk traditions and culture as the second or next generation and at a different level of identification with Poland.
    3. olegactor
      olegactor 10 March 2021 14: 43
      -1
      Misread Russian media and forums! laughing There's a lot of negative to Poland and the Poles!

      these hangers-on of mattress covers deserve nothing but contempt ... and what kind of warriors they are ... let them remember 39 ... the Fritzes broke them in a month and did not leave a wet place
      1. pytar
        pytar 10 March 2021 16: 30
        +3
        these hangers-on of mattress covers deserve nothing but contempt ... and what kind of warriors they are ... let them remember 39 ... the Fritzes broke them in a month and did not leave a wet place

        But I want to enter into an empty polemic, moreover, I am not a Pole or a Russian. In the given case, I look at things in a relatively ordinary way. You just selectively cite events, not remembering that there are such events in Russian history, and in all. And somewhere on Polish forums, a Pole will write something about you! What's the point then? request
        1. olegactor
          olegactor 10 March 2021 18: 14
          +2
          But I want to enter into an empty polemic, moreover, I am not a Pole or a Russian. In the given case, I look at things in a relatively ordinary way. You just selectively cite events, not remembering that there are such events in Russian history, and in all. And somewhere on Polish forums, a Pole will write something about you! What's the point then? request

          and the meaning ... better than the Russian proverb and you will not say .... do not boast going to battle. and boast going from the battle ... and I know the gentry firsthand .. there were teachings with them ... people with rotten
    4. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 10 March 2021 14: 43
      +2
      Quote: pytar
      Mutual pumping is in progress! The same is harmful for the Poles and for the Russians!

      Yes, as ours have already announced many times that they are not going to attack Poland. They are all eager to fight, or at least measure themselves in greatness.
      What kind of reciprocity is there.
      1. pytar
        pytar 10 March 2021 16: 37
        +3
        Yes, as ours have already announced many times that they are not going to attack Poland. They are all eager to fight, or at least measure themselves in greatness. What kind of reciprocity is there.

        Absolutely the same, the Pole will write about you! In fact, neither Russia nor Poland will attack each other! Well, in the next 100 years for sure! It's sad that such a negative goes between the two closest in origin, the strongest Slavic nations! sad
      2. Nestor Vlakhovski
        Nestor Vlakhovski 10 March 2021 16: 49
        -1
        Yes, they said exactly the same thing about Crimea and Ukraine, this country did not have at least some army until 2014.
        The strategy of the Polish army is exclusively defensive in nature, there is practically no offensive weaponry.
    5. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 10 March 2021 16: 52
      +2
      So the idea that "there are enemies" is the main spiritual bond.
      The situation is aggravated by the fact that people do not distinguish between "people", "state" and personal decency. For example, patriots will approve of the deliberate lies of government officials, thinking that this is beneficial to the Russian people ... how it works is better not to even ask.
      1. pytar
        pytar 10 March 2021 17: 13
        +1
        So the idea that "there are enemies" is the main spiritual bond. The situation is aggravated by the fact that people do not distinguish between "people", "state" and personal decency. For example, patriots will approve of the deliberate lies of government officials, thinking that this is beneficial to the Russian people ... how it works is better not to even ask.

        Precisely said! good Neither add nor subtract! Respect! hi
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 March 2021 11: 22
        +2
        This "spiritual bond" usually manifests itself in countries that fall
        into a difficult economic situation. When the population gets poorer.
        The slogan "enemies are all around" and "foreign agents are to blame" is launched,
        to divert the attention of angry people from the emptying wallet.
        1. Zug
          Zug 11 March 2021 16: 37
          0
          They have a campaign "difficult economic situation" read without interruption ... centuries of pressure
    6. Usher
      Usher 11 March 2021 19: 47
      0
      Well, as you can see from the results
      Quote: pytar
      However, it is impossible to convince Polish politicians and military leaders that Russia has no aggressive plans.

      Misread Russian media and forums! laughing There is a solid negative towards Poland and the Poles! No.


      Mutual pumping is in progress! The same is harmful for the Poles and for the Russians!

      Well, as can be seen from the results, Poland is aggressive against Russia. And not vice versa.
      1. pytar
        pytar 11 March 2021 23: 05
        +1
        Well, as can be seen from the results, Poland is aggressive against Russia. And not vice versa.

        With millions of antipolian publications in rus-media and on the forums? By the way, I suppose the same applies to Russia. Mutual pumping, that's how it goes! If one of the countries lowers the heat, the other will lose material for its own and everything will fade out after a while. Ash no, gasoline is added from both sides!
        1. Usher
          Usher 12 March 2021 02: 26
          -2
          Quote: pytar
          Well, as can be seen from the results, Poland is aggressive against Russia. And not vice versa.

          With millions of antipolian publications in rus-media and on the forums? By the way, I suppose the same applies to Russia. Mutual pumping, that's how it goes! If one of the countries lowers the heat, the other will lose material for its own and everything will fade out after a while. Ash no, gasoline is added from both sides!

          Can you give an example of an anti-Polish publication? Which would be a lie, that is, "gasoline"? Is it strange to call sound and truthful reasoning whipping? For example, if you broke your arm and your friends told you that you would go to the hospital, what would you say to them "don't push it"? Where is your logic? If you judge these statements in their media, pure lies. Outright lie. They only see the consequences. And they are surprised at the reaction of Russia in response to THEIR aggressive actions. It's like, for example, one hits the other and gets change in return, and he is still offended. Where is the logic? By stationing troops and bases with US missiles at home, Poland itself provokes a buildup of Russian military power in their direction. And then they scream about the threat. Do you see the logic here? Me not.
          1. pytar
            pytar 12 March 2021 11: 35
            0
            Can you give an example of an anti-Polish publication? Which would be a lie, that is, "gasoline"? Is it strange to call sound and truthful reasoning whipping? ... If these statements in their media are judged purely false. Outright lie. They only see the consequences. And they are surprised at the reaction of Russia in response to THEIR aggressive actions. ... Where is the logic? By stationing troops and bases with US missiles at home, Poland itself provokes a buildup of Russian military power in their direction. And then they scream about the threat. Do you see the logic here? Me not.

            Each has its own truth! Everyone has their own arguments and in fact the wallpaper is right in what it is! Because the situation looks different from different angles! To argue "who is the first" is pointless! Conflicts go deep into the past! Claims from everyone, the story is ambiguous! Then what's the point of winding up the negative again and again? What will you achieve? The wise will first take the steps of reconciliation! The Germans, French, and Western Europeans did it! So you can too!
            1. Usher
              Usher 12 March 2021 17: 11
              0
              Quote: pytar
              Can you give an example of an anti-Polish publication? Which would be a lie, that is, "gasoline"? Is it strange to call sound and truthful reasoning whipping? ... If these statements in their media are judged purely false. Outright lie. They only see the consequences. And they are surprised at the reaction of Russia in response to THEIR aggressive actions. ... Where is the logic? By stationing troops and bases with US missiles at home, Poland itself provokes a buildup of Russian military power in their direction. And then they scream about the threat. Do you see the logic here? Me not.

              Each has its own truth! Everyone has their own arguments and in fact the wallpaper is right in what it is! Because the situation looks different from different angles! To argue "who is the first" is pointless! Conflicts go deep into the past! Claims from everyone, the story is ambiguous! Then what's the point of winding up the negative again and again? What will you achieve? The wise will first take the steps of reconciliation! The Germans, French, and Western Europeans did it! So you can too!

              Well, is Russia behaving aggressively towards Poland? It is Poland that is constantly aggravating.
  • Tambov-there is god
    Tambov-there is god 10 March 2021 13: 59
    0
    General Kshmshpshchak and his feverish delirium. In principle, the attitude towards Poland is slowly deteriorating not only among the Russians, but also among the Germans.
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar 10 March 2021 14: 00
    +5
    Russia has no DESIRE to defeat Poland, feed it later ...
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 10 March 2021 14: 25
      +2
      winked As the experience of the USSR shows, the saying "how many wolves you feed, ..." works flawlessly.
  • cniza
    cniza 10 March 2021 14: 26
    +3
    Because of the Russian soldiers, we lost several million people, freedom for half a century and a chance for development, like the countries of Western Europe,


    Try to look for those who are to blame in your environment, especially your notorious politicians, if you hadn’t stinked at our side, we would not have remembered about you ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 March 2021 19: 32
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      Because of the Russian soldiers, we lost several million people, freedom for half a century and a chance for development, like the countries of Western Europe,


      Try to look for those who are to blame in your environment, especially your notorious politicians, if you hadn’t stinked at our side, we would not have remembered about you ...

      Victor, hi I wrote above that some more Polish units fought with the Germans, and their government had already fled to Romania, betraying their own. Calling them to be objective is useless. But, for yourself it is necessary to repeat.
      1. cniza
        cniza 10 March 2021 20: 56
        +2
        Good time ! hi

        There you can talk long and hard, but the big difference between the people of Poland and their elite is always surprising ...
        1. Clear
          Clear 11 March 2021 09: 26
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          There you can talk long and hard

          What we will do on the site yes
          1. cniza
            cniza 11 March 2021 09: 28
            +3
            And we have no choice, we can only talk ...
            1. Clear
              Clear 11 March 2021 09: 33
              +3
              Quote: cniza
              And we have no choice, we can only talk ...

              Vitya, believe me, social networks have a great future winked
              1. cniza
                cniza 11 March 2021 09: 37
                +3
                Here, believe it or not, but the realities say yes, everything will mix there ...
                1. Clear
                  Clear 11 March 2021 09: 41
                  +3
                  Quote: cniza
                  Here, believe it or not, but the realities say yes, everything will mix there ...

                  This is stated in an article by Nuland titled "Pinning Down Putin", published on the portal of the journal Foreign Affairs.

                  “During the Soviet era, the United States defeated the Kremlin's censorship by spreading its messages through Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, America magazine, and regular contacts with dissidents. <…> However, young Russians are much more likely to consume information and news through the Internet than through state television or print media. Washington should influence them exactly there: Odnoklassniki, VKontakte, Facebook, Telegram, YouTube, and many new Russian-language digital platforms, ”Nuland wrote.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 11 March 2021 09: 54
                    +3
                    You cannot call them stupid, they have always worked with our youth and will only strengthen this work ...
  • Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad 10 March 2021 14: 32
    +8
    "Moscow's position even looks too peaceful, opportunistic, especially with regard to the situation of the Russian-speaking population in Latvia."
    We are not Russian-speaking, but the same RUSSIAN as you are in Moscow, Rostov, Novosibirsk ...
    Riga 09.05.2019
    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 10 March 2021 16: 46
      -8
      "You" are renegade collaborationists, you cannot be expelled to Russia in any way, but you are always happy to put a spoke in the wheels of the country in which you live.
      1. Andrey Grad
        Andrey Grad 12 March 2021 15: 04
        +1
        Quote: Nestor Vlahovski
        "You" are renegade collaborationists, you cannot be expelled to Russia in any way, but you are always happy to put a spoke in the wheels of the country in which you live.

        Are you going to expel?
        Remember, we are Russians in the Baltic region for 300 years already, when our grandfathers did not live in any pseudo-countries here and there were no plans, and we will continue to live, this is our native land.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 March 2021 14: 35
    0
    If they continue this way, they will find themselves, as usual, between a rock and a hard place.
  • VORON538
    VORON538 10 March 2021 14: 37
    0
    I wonder if the coming to power in Poland is at all possible for forces, even if they are neutral towards Russia?(C)
    In the near future, most likely not, since Poland itself is just repeating what the Americans and the British say, with whom Russia is unlikely to have a normal dialogue. The Naglo-Saxons do not want to see a strong and independent Russia, and the abyss into which Russia was thrown after collapse of the USSR, they still have to get out of it, which they clearly do not need!
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 10 March 2021 17: 36
      0
      Let's not guess, subsidizing the economy is coming to an end this year. We must pay off debts. And the Baltic pip gas pipeline is not as rosy as Polish politicians say. More precisely, it’s grief, you need gas to make a profit, the Norwegian fields that Poland bought are not enough! And where is the gas? Correctly in Nord Stream 2. Analysis not of Russian experts, but of partners. Yes, and Germany needs gas to switch to "green energy" by 2040. Therefore, the position on bringing the Nord Stream 2 project to completion and commissioning into operation. hi
  • Freedim
    Freedim 10 March 2021 14: 39
    +1
    Well, then we were not the first to start ... Lyakhi to us since the 16th century owe Susanin ... both for the turmoil and for the genocide of the Russian people ...
    And about "defeating Poland" is strongly reminiscent of the anecdote about the elusive Joe.
    .
    I'm more worried if these geeks accidentally yank an American Yao warhead. All Europe and the rest of the star-striped hangers-on to Russia will pull .. what is not a reason for the beginning of the III-rd world war.
    .
    And this is personally to Skshipchak:
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 March 2021 14: 42
    0
    Ay Poles, and where to laugh? Well, they'll blurt out, you want to stand, but you want to fall. As there Lavrov said ........ He spoke correctly. good
  • Hagen
    Hagen 10 March 2021 14: 48
    +4
    I wonder if the coming to power in Poland is at all possible for forces, even if they are neutral towards Russia?

    There are 460 people in the Polish Sejm. Of these, a more or less pragmatic position (not friendly) is supported by 5. Do I need to decipher the answer to your question? It is more than obvious. There is not the slightest prerequisite for something to change in Poland's policy towards Russia. Rather, they will become more and more negative. I don’t understand at all, why do we need the Polish ambassador in Moscow? I think the reduction in imports from Poland is simply a matter of its behavior.
  • aleksey.svalov
    aleksey.svalov 10 March 2021 15: 00
    -1
    There is no strength to win, but it is enough to turn to ash.
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 10 March 2021 15: 03
    +5
    The unsatisfied imperial ambitions of the Poles are behind it all. And black envy. Because Russia was, is and remains an empire, despite serious territorial losses. And their Rzeczpospolita shrank to the size of a small European state. So they cannot survive it.

    It would be better to think why it happened, and why other peoples did not want to live in their empire and sent them fuck.
    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 10 March 2021 16: 43
      -7
      Poliks live several times better than Russians, what the hell is envy.
      The Polish leadership, probably, would like to take an example from the Russian oligarchy, but fortunately it was not lucky with the people, it did not tolerate the obedient in Poland much.
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 10 March 2021 17: 32
        +6
        Firstly, not several times better. I have not been to Poland, but I have been to Germany and the Netherlands. I did not see anything that would be "several times better than in Russia". And secondly, this envy is not material, but purely political. After all, we also have no material reasons to attack Poland and the Baltic states. What to take from them ?! Tiny, densely populated plots of land with a hostile population that we don't need for nothing. Nevertheless, they never tire of repeating about the "Russian threat."

        Therefore, they simply judge us by themselves. If they wanted an empire with all their hearts, then we want it too. They are trying to put their imperial ambitions on us.

        This anti-Russian music will be eternal.
      2. sgrabik
        sgrabik 10 March 2021 18: 30
        -2
        Don't talk nonsense, you are a funny fool, you have read a lot of false yellow press and now you are pretending to be a connoisseur of life !!!
  • Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 10 March 2021 15: 54
    +1
    Quote: VORON538
    The power of one division of the Strategic Missile Forces is quite enough for this extremely militarized region to become for a certain period (and the life of the planet and the life of a person are 2 different units) one of the most peaceful on planet Earth!

    Eh, no, the Poles do not agree with the use of nuclear weapons! Nothing! 11 laughing
    Actually, I think it's not worth spending nuclear weapons on some kind of Poland. On the Day of the Airborne Forces, it is enough to inform the observers that the Poles ran into the Airborne Forces. Well, and allocate food. They will reach, they will snitch on the mordas, walk around Warsaw, swim in the Vistula, and return home. And the Poles will not make noise anymore.
    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 10 March 2021 16: 41
      -8
      Eh, no, the Poles do not agree with the use of nuclear weapons! Nothing! 11
      Do you agree to undermine this martyr's belt from which the Russian cities from the panel-high-rise slums will suffer more than anyone else? Or do you think Russia will be allowed to use nuclear weapons just like that? lol
      It is enough on the Day of the Airborne Forces to inform the observers that the Poles ran into the Airborne Forces.
      drunkards vfontanahpogut only beat women and adolescents, in front of Caucasians they prefer to humiliate themselves even by the crowd. If anyone needs to be afraid of VyDyVeshnikov anywhere and in no way showed themselves in battle, then definitely not the Poles.
      They will reach, they will knock on the faces
      Boyars roll, miserable.
      1. sgrabik
        sgrabik 10 March 2021 18: 24
        +3
        You fool, Nestor Vlakhovski, do not judge others by yourself, sofa Polish warrior, calm down, do not make people laugh, you stupid fool !!!
        1. Alex DHG
          Alex DHG 10 March 2021 22: 51
          +2
          He is either the daughter of an ipsun officer or a troll, which is, in general, the same thing. There is no point in feeding him.
      2. Zug
        Zug 11 March 2021 16: 43
        0
        I advise you not to check. It is better to direct your ardor and desire to the development of your own country and not to run around Europe with an inflatable mattress offering yourself - who will give the mattress more, you inflate and spread your legs, lie down
        1. Nestor Vlakhovski
          Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 11: 21
          0
          offering yourself - who will give the mattress more, inflate and spread your legs, lie down
          Let me remind you that Natasha has an established reputation for being the most accessible ladies of European appearance.
          Men are often bandits, and women are "postal", and from South Korea, to South Africa and Argentina, you have the same fame everywhere. And this is not an abstract speculation, as about some Poles with a mattress, but a completely objective reality.
          Poles are not the largest, but a proud and prosperous people, you should learn from them, and not swing your fists threatening to fill up your cannon fodder in blue berets.
          1. Zug
            Zug 12 March 2021 11: 25
            0
            The objective reality is that you can't sit quietly. Your arrogance and habit of creeping under the French-English promises has already played a cruel joke with you. It was just that in 19 you did not have to cross the Curzon Line but be content with the newly acquired borders of the newly formed state. they would have "put it in" you in '39.
            Polish nutcracker
            1. Nestor Vlakhovski
              Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 11: 32
              0
              Poland has the most peaceful foreign policy, it is not the Poles who kill the local residents in Syria, Ukraine, Georgia, Africa, it is not Poland that sends them to the net and finances radical terrorists. ...
              Poland never lay before anyone, it was only conquered and then occupied with a lot of blood. Behind you will only accept you from your wife, and Poland beats and will beat the wild horde that is in urine. The lessons of the past have been learned, and therefore we do not spare funds for the army.
              1. Zug
                Zug 12 March 2021 11: 38
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                And why such awareness about Syria, Georgia, Ukraine? Maybe you were holding a candle? Maybe you recall Pisludsky's speeches and a Polish song about the brave Poles in Berlin? Didn't you found in the 30s an organization funded by the government, trained in Germany and where the command staff were involved were engaged in subversive activities on the territory of the USSR? We knew everything, names, surnames, and those who starved and tortured tens of thousands of our prisoners during the war of 1919-20. Or do you think that some of those who were shot in Katyn are simply selective? And the rest 50 thousand, together with Anders Were dressed, shod. The salary was paid and released to all 4 parties. Well, except for some, near Katyn. Well, I tell you, you didn't have to poke your nose into Ukraine in 19.
                1. Nestor Vlakhovski
                  Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 11: 48
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                  You will also kill the Pechenegs with the Polovtsians. I would love to talk to you about history, but you don't know it at all. Only some slogans were picked up from propaganda sources.
                  we are in Syria at the invitation of the government offs
                  Assad with his retinue is the same office of the government as some sort of Navalny in Russia. It is not recognized by most of the representatives of the world community, and therefore simply cannot be legitimate in any way. There is nothing to say about Georgia and Ukraine. I do not even doubt that "your cause is right," and there are all bad villains around you. Just don’t then teach the Poles to "sit quietly", it sounds like a threat. And we have a short conversation with the enemies.
                  1. Zug
                    Zug 12 March 2021 12: 00
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                    Assad is the president of his country elected by the people. And to spit who didn’t recognize him. The United States probably didn’t ask whether one or the other could be appointed president. They wanted to lay a pipe through Syria, but they broke off. That Assad did not become pleasing. And about the Polovtsy? the most peace-loving nation, only since 19 they had territorial claims to all countries bordering on Poland There were not many ambitions and opportunities. As for Georgia: was it not she who struck the adjacent territory at night? And once again, there was an illegal coup in Ukraine. Even on this basis, his government can even now be considered illegitimate, not even in 2014. And there will be no conversation with you - no one is going to fight with you. Only here I will give you a forecast in advance: You will climb, as then, in the intervention, when 14 countries were walking in Russia and doing whatever they wanted. As soon as you think that we are again like then weakened. You cannot otherwise.
                    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
                      Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 12: 24
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                      Assad is an unchosen impostor.
                      International recognition is exactly what distinguishes a head of state from a casual passer-by. There could be no pipe through Syria, you do not know not only history, but also Geography.
                      Poland has no territorial claims to any of the countries, no need to lie.
                      1. Zug
                        Zug 12 March 2021 12: 30
                        +1
                        The impostor is PARAShenko. Assad was elected by his people. And long before the start of the conflict in Syria and at first he was happy with something. And then he suddenly stopped. Isn't it strange? That's bad luck. Everything was good and then-Oh! The impostor! where the dog doesn’t push his nose? And in terms of geography, it’s probably only by hearsay that you know about it. It’s not too much of impostors, then suddenly? Gaddafi. Assad, Hussein .. And what by the way are NATO troops doing in Syria? What right are they in general there? Syria is a sovereign state! And all who are there by right of power are impostors, murderers and occupiers. And Poland had a lot of complaints since 1919: they wanted to bite off and gobble up, but they choked, they couldn't even burp.
                      2. Nestor Vlakhovski
                        Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 12: 38
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                        Parashenko was recognized by Russia.
                        Assad was not recognized by anyone except the poor and poor autocratic brothers.
                        During the war, he lost his legitimacy when most of the country withdrew from under his leadership without firing a shot.
                        Gaddafi, Assad, Hussein, KimChenEn, Madura - hmmmm, what do they have in common?
                        There is no NATO on the territory of Syria. There are troops from the United States, Britain, and France, which are privately deployed there. There are no Polish soldiers there, and never have been.
                        Were they called there, invited, asked for something?
                        The local population called and asked to save him from the dictator Assad.
                        Syria is a sovereign state
                        Well, a very funny joke)))
                        And Poland had a lot of claims since 1919.
                        Key word "WAS". All territorial issues with its neighbors Poland has long been resolved.
                      3. Zug
                        Zug 12 March 2021 12: 44
                        +1
                        Here, privately! I know that PARAShenko was recognized, but they could not ... Assad was a recognized president long before the conflict in Syria. Just then he did not do what he was told. Like Gaddafi. And the offensive forces of the United States, France, etc. cannot. is located on the territory of a sovereign state in private. By definition. For this there is a PMC. A sovereign state is a joke? Today is Syria a joke. Yesterday Libya. Tomorrow is Poland ... Is it really cool? You have a legitimate president today, and tomorrow he will be an impostor .. This is how you can go to any country you want .. Don't you find? So I personally do not think the President of Poland is legitimate. Today I am the only one and tomorrow many will think so. Well, it doesn’t matter, we will privately introduce troops to Poland. Business then ... We will put our own on the throne.
                      4. Nestor Vlakhovski
                        Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 13: 04
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                        Here, privately!
                        Is this news for you?
                        I know that PARAShenko was recognized, but they could not ..
                        could, but did not recognize, because they knew about his popular support.
                        Assad was the recognized president long before the outbreak of the conflict in Syria
                        The status of the president is not life-long; it is easy to lose it. Assad made the mistake of not leaving on time. Like Gaddafi.
                        Syria is not a sovereign country, the troops of the United States, France and Britain are there in private order. This means that if you shoot down an American plane, Poland is not obliged to even express "concern", let alone be drawn into a conflict. They climbed in, themselves and rake, without our participation. The Polish government acts in the interests of the Poles, and the Poles support it. As long as this balance is maintained, Poland will be sovereign to all enemies out of spite.
                      5. Zug
                        Zug 12 March 2021 13: 13
                        +1
                        The status of the president is lost only with the help of re-election. In no other way. Instead of "leaving on time" and "his mistake", you probably completely forget what the internal affairs of the state are. And if someone suddenly began to believe that it is no longer "sovereign", suddenly. This does not mean that it is so. It would be a joke if a number of countries, calling our state "not sovereign" suddenly set up their bases in me in Karelia. And they announced. Hey, you no longer have a state. We will stay here in privately, so, boy. It would be screaming. Only because "someone did not leave the presidency in time" And I can ask you. And what is the standard of living in the "liberated from the yoke of Hussein, Gaddafi" countries. Can send photos ? NATO, of course, gave them democracy and happiness. Having trampled their countries into the Stone Age, where even to this day. Decades later, there is nothing more than a water supply and sewerage system! That is why Bashar al-Assad does not want "democracy" in his country. "privately"
                      6. Zug
                        Zug 12 March 2021 13: 40
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                        Yes, you have no enemies, my distant Polish friend. No, you make them up for yourself. Do you think we care where the troops are on your territory? I don’t ... Do you think I’m wondering how they will be redeployed across your territory? No ... This is YOUR territory and you have the right to move your troops wherever you want. Why do you perceive any of our troop movements (not the first year, by the way) as a threat? And by the way: Iraq, destroyed decades ago, did not run out of oil, gas, and minerals. What prevents them from restoring the country from the Stone Age? Oil is pumped, minerals are mined. The same is in Libya. It's just that the wrong ones are pumped and the oil is not going to the treasury of states, to which they belong, but somewhere else? Brotherly give oil to the United States and other friendly guys. Think about it. For if Russia collapses, you will be next. All the countries that surround us are waiting for what is happening in Libya, Syria and Iraq
                      7. surok1
                        surok1 13 March 2021 07: 53
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                        Elections in a situation of military conflict are a mockery of logic. Democracy in war is a superfluous essence. And even if the election results are not recognized, they must be recognized as invalid, without a transit of power.
                  2. Zug
                    Zug 12 March 2021 12: 52
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                    What do the Middle Eastern countries have in common - OIL. The rest is written above. Blah Blah Blah. Half of the Polish country groans under the yoke of the current president. Everyone wants to free themselves from him. to liberate the country from the dictator. Will it be pleasant for you? Or here's another: In North Korea, the dictator sits, he violated all the rights of citizens. Go, build democracy there. The whole country is already groaning under the yoke of the quick-eyed ruler. Hm ... there is no oil ... otherwise they would be released too ..
                  3. surok1
                    surok1 13 March 2021 07: 18
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                    Koreans are not democrats, it will be necessary - every one will fall for their homeland. This is character.
                2. surok1
                  surok1 13 March 2021 08: 02
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                  And what are the questions about the sovereignty of Syria? Nobody puts their feet on the table. Just support on credit. And the prevention of the creation of Ig, which is not Islamic at all, but fascism.
                3. Zug
                  Zug 14 March 2021 13: 55
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                  It is necessary to provide such assistance to Poland, also on credit.
          2. Zug
            Zug 12 March 2021 12: 37
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            And in Georgia. What Georgia did not succeed, Azerbaijan has succeeded now. That's all. They wanted to take the disputed territories since 1991 and others. It was just that the Russians intervened for Karabakh and they did not help Armenia. But if they did, the Georgians would run away like before. with something from the Russians in the anus having
          3. surok1
            surok1 13 March 2021 08: 07
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            Fak international recognition!
  • Zug
    Zug 12 March 2021 11: 41
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    By the way, we are in Syria at the invitation of the government off. Georgia attacked the republic they did not recognize, going beyond its borders. Was there an illegal change of power in Ukraine? Maybe there was an impeachment? But no ... And some people do not want a new government .. And have the right by the way. It's so at-for-thought
  • Alex Thinking
    Alex Thinking 10 March 2021 17: 24
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    How did these poor people get it! ...
  • beeper
    beeper 10 March 2021 17: 45
    +1
    It turns out that the soldier Skshipchak, being in the ranks of the Warsaw Pact, always wore a stone in his bosom ?! winked
    What a kind of hypocrite! negative
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 10 March 2021 17: 49
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    "Russia does not have the strength to defeat Poland"

    When does the dog bark?
    When he feeds his congeners, when he is afraid and when he cannot bite!
  • sgrabik
    sgrabik 10 March 2021 18: 19
    +2
    Recently, the Polish leadership is only engaged in the fact that it is wishful thinking, the Poles have a pronounced megalomania, they think of themselves as a great military power, as they say, you cannot praise yourself - no one will praise !!!
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 10 March 2021 18: 30
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    Heroes who are brave when they sit behind a NATO fence. Only they are not very smart))) they were once guaranteed security, France and England. Now the Germans and mattress makers have joined the promises)))
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 10 March 2021 19: 16
    +1
    The Pole has always been ruined by stupidity, stupidity and megalomania. You would ask yourself the question: why the heck does Russia need Poland?
  • duschman80-81
    duschman80-81 10 March 2021 19: 19
    0
    I don't even want to comment on the nonsense of this senile ...
  • Nikolai Redko
    Nikolai Redko 10 March 2021 20: 38
    +3
    I don't even want to argue! Russia, if it DOES, will cope with Poland. The Polish army is kind of decorative. There, too much attention is paid to external "show-offs". And there. where "show-off", there is not about the war. And such a sugary imitation of the Pentagonists that you really want to spit. The Ukrainian military has the same obsequious monkeying. Yes, the flag is in their hands. They would not climb just to us. And then - Russia is an enemy, an enemy! Oh, we are afraid, we are afraid! And as Russia is trying not to get involved with these fools in the economy and to lay pipes across the sea, so no - but what about "our" money, give it to us. And then, what are we going to arm ourselves with. I was brought up on the film: "4 Tankmen and a Dog" and did not suspect that Poles are such dolboyas!
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 11 March 2021 12: 58
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      The film, that is, the series, they have long been, if not banned, then they are trying. Although the decisive role of the Polish Army, which won the great battle under the Studzianki farm, can also be traced there.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 10 March 2021 20: 39
    +1
    No, I am absolutely not a Putinist and a fan of Shoigu at the post of the Ministry of Defense, but even in such conditions, the homeland of my ancestors has no chance. Russia will crush Poland unambiguously. I would even say that Poland itself will be crushed by despair. But who needs it, excuse me?
    1. Zug
      Zug 11 March 2021 16: 48
      +1
      You don't need to push anyone, you have to live in understanding, that's my opinion.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 12 March 2021 20: 41
        +1
        Quote: Zug
        You don't need to push anyone, you have to live in understanding, that's my opinion.

        Well, I definitely agree with you! drinks
  • Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 10 March 2021 21: 34
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    I don’t understand in any way why all of them there are so rushing and constantly.
    And At any level, almost like in (in) Ukraine, in the capitals, in the farms.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 10 March 2021 22: 01
    +2
    Russia does not have the strength to defeat Poland

    Russia does not have such a task and such plans.
    It's just geography - there is the Caucasus, there is the Pamir, there is the Cordillera, there is Poland ...
    Mountains and hillocks of different sizes. They will interfere, we will demolish, break through the tunnel, but not as the main task it will be, so, a stage for larger plans.
    Maybe the Poles will be surprised, but we do not need a defeated Poland, we have had such happiness for more than one hundred and fifty years, and to put it mildly, as if we fell into manure, there are no other major impressions.
    That RI, that the USSR pampered and pampered Poland in every possible way, the percentage of nobles (gentry) who had rights was ten times more in proportion than in the Russian and other provinces, and they received terrorists, separatists, scoundrels who cut out a sleeping garrison along with women and children ( how is it in St. Petersburg, isn't it time to rename Kosciuszko Street in honor of someone more worthy from our point of view?)
    I think that in general we should withdraw from the Potsdam agreements the lands along the Oder and Neisse, which were cut to Poland by Stalin. He was a tyrant, wasn't he, gentlemen Poles? Consequently, it is necessary to correct his tyrannical voluntarisms!
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  • Yurmy
    Yurmy 11 March 2021 05: 56
    +1
    Why defeat her, just at a certain moment, we will make one big lawn out of her!
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 11 March 2021 07: 29
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    On the offensive, right, no. This requires preparation.
  • Growlers
    Growlers 11 March 2021 09: 03
    +1
    A real Pole! Russia and Russians are to blame for everything! And Poland is "white and fluffy", suffers ........
  • Woland
    Woland 11 March 2021 09: 57
    +1
    As the saying goes, "I wish we would give them if they caught us .."
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 11 March 2021 11: 07
    +1
    The main problems of the Poles are that they have more lords than the Poles themselves, and that they have a pathological learning disability. In principle, they are not able to understand the events of 39, when, without Soviet convoys of noble lords in the regions occupied by the USSR, the local population would begin to slaughter. Not even how they loved their state in the 17th century.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 11 March 2021 12: 31
    +1
    However, it is impossible to convince Polish politicians and military leaders that Russia has no aggressive plans. The Russian threat is one of the cornerstone myths of the Polish state, an important component of the national idea. After all, if you remove the myth of the Russian threat, what will remain?


    In the same way, we are constantly cultivating the American threat ..))
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 13 March 2021 09: 56
      -1
      Those. Is it Russia that is persuading the United States to open all new bases around its perimeter, place missiles there and bring equipment there?
  • Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. 11 March 2021 12: 56
    +1
    "Ai, Moska, she's strong to know that she barks at an elephant" Who the hell needs them to conquer and then feed them, they have already freed them once at the cost of 600 thousand lives of Soviet soldiers (the loss of the Polish People's Army during the liberation of their homeland - 12 thousand). people). And Anders's army, armed to the teeth with the USSR, frankly duped, instead of being sent to the front, and then generally fled to Iran and until the end of the war hung around in the allies' train. And after how many hours or days the famous Polish fort Vasterplatte raised a white sheet in front of the Germans. Yes, and the heroism of Polish soldiers is more than a myth, I was somehow struck by the number of Polish officers killed in World War II as a percentage of the total number of troops: brave Polish officers died 5 times less than in other armies of World War II. Let me remind you that in the Red Army during the offensive, the platoon commander and the company commander sometimes lived no more than a week, because they went on the attack ahead of their subordinates. At the same time, the structure of the lower divisions in all armies was approximately the same (and the number of junior officers in proportion to the rank and file in the lower level too): a platoon - 20-30 people, a company - 100 people, a battalion - up to 500 people, a regiment - about 2000 people Here is such a brave Polish army. Their destiny: to bark out of the doorway and then hide behind the backs of larger individuals.
  • vizir
    vizir 11 March 2021 13: 06
    +1
    Shortsighted Polish politicians are fooling their own people. Poles occupy the second place of honor in the ranking of fooled peoples, the first rightfully belongs to the Americans, but it is understandable, they are "exceptional".
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 11 March 2021 13: 42
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    And also "news" from which "dypka" we will be offered to discuss the type? Can I see all the patients? There is nothing more to write about, how can we talk?
  • Lionov
    Lionov 11 March 2021 14: 41
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    I remember exactly the same, they scoffed and with Hitler at 39 about Danzig, the proud lords cannot be defeated. True, it took Hitler a week for the mobilized Polish army of under two million to scatter along with the government and its commander-in-chief in different directions.
  • YURI N.
    YURI N. 11 March 2021 15: 06
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    Poland was once a great power! Which included the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine ......
    And it could be like this if it were not for the war with Russia ...
    After World War II, "Bloody USSR". He annexed the primordial German lands to Poland, Poland should sit quietly, drink "Zubrovka" and not bully its eastern neighbor.