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Analogue of T-15 "Armata": China is developing a new heavy BMP

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At the 15th International Defense Exhibition IDEX-2021 in Abu Dhabi (UAE), the Chinese delegation officially presented a model of a new heavy infantry fighting vehicle under development. Let us remind you that this is the second presentation in a row. The first took place in 2019. Then the Chinese introduced a heavy infantry fighting vehicle under the designation VN50. It was planned to create it on the basis of the main combat chassis. tank VT-4.


Naturally, the new Chinese combat vehicle could not but arouse the interest of experts from various countries. Experts immediately drew attention to the presence of a certain similarity with the Russian T-15 infantry fighting vehicle based on the Armata universal tracked platform.

Recall that the Russian heavy infantry fighting vehicle T-15 was first shown at the Victory Parade in Moscow in 2015. Among the main differences of the BMP T-15 is the presence of a tank level of armor and active protection "Afganit". Thanks to its reliable protection, the BMP can participate in combat together with the Armata T-14 tanks.

Also, a promising combat vehicle is distinguished by good armament. The Russian BMP T-15 is armed with a 30-mm 2A42 automatic cannon with selective ammunition and a 7,62-mm PKT machine gun paired with it, 2 twin launchers for the Kornet ATGM.


The Chinese infantry fighting vehicle has a lot in common with the promising Russian T-15. If you compare the images available to the press, you can see that the 2021 model has undergone a number of changes compared to the two-year-old model. In particular, the Chinese have changed the upper frontal part of the body - it is now shorter, and television cameras are installed on it. In the aft part of the BMP - 2 machine gun mounts 12,7 mm, with remote control.

The armament turret in the 2021 model is virtually identical to the 2019 model. For example, it contains a 100 mm rifled cannon, which can also be used as a launcher for guided missiles, as well as a 30 mm rapid-fire automatic cannon and a 7,62 mm machine gun.

Thus, we see that there are some differences in the armament of the Russian BMP T-15 and its Chinese counterpart. For example, the T-15 has ATGMs and AU220M, while the Chinese vehicle does not have them, but the Chinese has 2 large-caliber machine guns.

A little about the technical characteristics: since the VN50 is equipped with a 1300-1500 hp engine, experts predict that the BMP will have good mobility and mobility. Note that the T-15 BMP is equipped with a 1500 hp engine.

Like the T-15, the Chinese BMP has the engine located at the front of the vehicle. The BMP has a lot in common in appearance. That is, we can conclude that the Chinese BMP is indeed an analogue of the T-15 "Armata", but with some changes in armament.

It is worth noting that China expects to use promising infantry fighting vehicles not only for the needs of the People's Liberation Army. It is possible that if the BMP line is launched, then they will try to orient it for export. It is no coincidence that the model was first taken to armory exhibition in Abu Dhabi: China is very interested in the development of arms exports to the rich oil monarchies of the Persian Gulf.

It is also worth noting that in the PRC not so long ago, the VN17 medium infantry fighting vehicle, which was created on the basis of the VT5 tank, was tested. Apparently, China will not stop at the creation of the considered BMP VN50.
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  1. NDR-791
    NDR-791 10 March 2021 09: 51
    +2
    Interestingly, in the presence of a 100mm cannon and ammunition for it, as well as TWO !!! fodder grains, how many small Chinese fit in the "landing"?
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      1. loki565
        loki565 10 March 2021 10: 50
        +2
        There would be a desire and you can cram as much as you like)))
  2. Alex777
    Alex777 10 March 2021 09: 56
    -1
    The purpose of the aft heavy machine guns is interesting.
    Cover the retreat? what
    Where will they shoot from those places on which they are installed?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 10 March 2021 10: 02
      +5
      Quote: Alex777
      Where will they shoot from those places on which they are installed?

      Lagging behind wassat wassat wassat But in fact, in an urban environment where you can't turn around right away, it can help. After all, our ISs were equipped with
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 10 March 2021 10: 08
        -1
        But in fact, in an urban environment where you can't turn around right away, it can help.

        I understand the installation of the machine gun on the turret.
        And behind, like on a ship, not very much. The shooting angles are strange.
        1. kristofer
          kristofer 10 March 2021 10: 31
          +1
          so why can't you put it on the layout? you can have machine guns, or you can have an anti-aircraft gun :)
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 10 March 2021 11: 11
          0
          Cover troops when dismounting or loading through the landing ramp?
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 10 March 2021 11: 19
            0
            Cover troops when dismounting or loading through the landing ramp?

            From whom?
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 10 March 2021 11: 35
              +2
              From detachments :)
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 10 March 2021 13: 29
                +1
                Interesting idea. )))
      2. Alf
        Alf 10 March 2021 10: 29
        +3
        Quote: NDR-791
        After all, our ISs were equipped with

        Only now the experience of battles showed that the stern machine gun was not used either on the KV or on the ISs. And the Hans after Marder also abandoned the stern machine gun.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 10 March 2021 10: 32
          -4
          Quote: Alf
          Only now the experience of battles showed that the stern machine gun was not used either on the KV or on the ISs.

          Documentary confirmation to the studio, pzhalsta!
          1. Alf
            Alf 10 March 2021 10: 34
            +2
            Quote: NDR-791
            Quote: Alf
            Only now the experience of battles showed that the stern machine gun was not used either on the KV or on the ISs.

            Documentary confirmation to the studio, pzhalsta!

            Documentary proof of application in the studio, please!
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 10 March 2021 10: 44
              +1
              Quote: Alf
              Documentary proof of application in the studio, please!

              In general, I think that about the two remote-controlled large companies practically in the "landing" is a clean "hat". I looked through the pictures of VN-9 (12,17) there is simply nowhere to shove them. And who will remotely control them from the crew? Another arrow?
              At the expense of the use - if there is a gun on the wall, it will definitely shoot wassat wassat wassat
              1. Alf
                Alf 10 March 2021 10: 45
                +2
                Quote: NDR-791
                Quote: Alf
                Documentary proof of application in the studio, please!

                In general, I think that about the two remote-controlled large companies practically in the "landing" is a clean "hat". I looked through the pictures of VN-9 (12,17) there is simply nowhere to shove them. And who will remotely control them from the crew? Another arrow?

                I think that these barrels will be controlled by two paratroopers, of course, before getting out of the car.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 10 March 2021 10: 08
      +3
      Quote: Alex777
      Where will they shoot from those places on which they are installed?

      protection from firing at the stern by grenade launchers, including in urban conditions
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 10 March 2021 10: 17
        +2
        "Theoretically, you won’t get a mare, but practically you won’t take it ...".
        There are machine guns, but how will they ensure the detection of grenade launchers and effective shelling?
        In the city, without the accompaniment of infantry, IMHO, no machine guns will save you. hi
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 10 March 2021 10: 41
          +3
          Quote: Alex777
          There are machine guns, but how will they ensure the detection of grenade launchers and effective shelling?

          Did you notice that there are DUPMs there? Obviously, they must have modern devices not only for aiming, but also for detecting the enemy.
          And it is no coincidence that we can see in the photo the angle of elevation of the barrel at the rear machine gun, which allows firing at a high-lying target.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 10 March 2021 11: 23
            0
            In theory, everything is so. But practical - I doubt the expediency. hi
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 March 2021 11: 58
      0
      Quote: Alex777
      The purpose of the aft heavy machine guns is interesting.
      Cover the retreat? what
      Where will they shoot from those places on which they are installed?

      What about ambush tactics? When the assailants let armored vehicles pass by themselves and hit them in the stern.
  3. Altona
    Altona 10 March 2021 10: 13
    +4
    The impression is that they steal and carefully copied, as we did in our time accidentally broken by the broken B-29. And boldly boldly painted with their "inimitable" (and I want to apply an obscene word) hmm digital camouflage.
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  4. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 10 March 2021 10: 16
    +3
    The Chinese infantry fighting vehicle has a lot in common with the promising Russian T-15. ... ... you can see that the 2021 model has undergone a number of changes compared to the model two years ago.
    Our BMP 7-roller (on board) is Chinese 6, which means either the capacity is less, or the armor is weaker, and most likely both.
  5. IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 10: 16
    -6
    The armament complex is outdated. On such a machine, you need to put at least a 152 mm cannon, and preferably an even larger caliber for the future.
    1. Alf
      Alf 10 March 2021 10: 31
      +2
      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
      A minimum of 152 mm cannon must be installed on such a vehicle,

      Why is there a 6-inch BMP? And 8-dm? Then the infantry will follow.
      1. Runway
        Runway 10 March 2021 10: 36
        0
        Let's make a superArmata ... laughing
        1. Alf
          Alf 10 March 2021 10: 38
          +3
          Quote: WFP
          Let's make a superArmata ... laughing

          8-inch forward, 6-inch back and two 5-inch sides ... The Iron Kaput case will never die ...
          1. Runway
            Runway 10 March 2021 10: 47
            +2
            The land fleet will not sink ...
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 11: 04
        -2
        Well, like the personal artillery of the MSO.
        1. Alf
          Alf 10 March 2021 11: 11
          +1
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Well, like the personal artillery of the MSO.

          And what to do with the infantry with this BMP?
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 11: 49
            0
            Why put the infantry somewhere?
            1. Alf
              Alf 10 March 2021 11: 59
              +1
              We are talking about the BMP.
              A minimum of 152 mm cannon must be installed on such a vehicle,

              Your words ?
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 12: 03
                0
                Quote: Alf
                Your words ?

                So what?
                1. Incvizitor
                  Incvizitor 10 March 2021 14: 37
                  0
                  The shells are a huge weapon, a big one, and the shells for them will take everything.
                2. Alf
                  Alf 10 March 2021 18: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Quote: Alf
                  Your words ?

                  So what?

                  Well, how can I tell you What? I understand, they blurted out about the 6-inch caliber on the BMP, without thinking, it happens .. The shadow on the fence, but you don't need to direct and spew a stream of thoughts.
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 18: 20
                    0
                    What prevents the BC from being placed in the tower?
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 10 March 2021 18: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      What prevents the BC from being placed in the tower?

                      If we place the ammo for the 6-inch gun in the turret, then there are two questions.
                      1. Can you imagine the dimensions of the tower?
                      2. What to do with the troop compartment, are you talking about the BMP?
                      1. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 18: 49
                        0
                        Quote: Alf
                        Can you imagine the size of the tower?

                        Normal sizes. It's not about carrying ammo with tank cartridges.
                        Quote: Alf
                        What to do with the troop compartment, are you talking about the BMP?

                        He is where he was and will remain.
                      2. Alf
                        Alf 10 March 2021 18: 50
                        +1
                        I see, keep casting your shadow over the fence ...
                      3. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 18: 59
                        -1
                        Quote: Alf
                        I see, keep casting your shadow over the wattle fence

                        You have a shitty argument.
    2. Runway
      Runway 10 March 2021 11: 44
      0
      Two-legged personal artillery is more needed with them (behind their backs, in a "cracker" / bag, under the barrel of their personal weapons). Not for the sake of dispute.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 10 March 2021 11: 50
        0
        You can't carry a cannon with shells behind your back.
        1. Runway
          Runway 10 March 2021 12: 01
          0
          This is yes. But bmm is not always at hand.
  • Cananecat
    Cananecat 10 March 2021 10: 29
    +2
    Still, it's nice, damn it, when you do something that others then try to copy or repeat ...))
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 10 March 2021 21: 42
      0
      Yes, it's not very pleasant, considering that this other one will probably make and sell a lot of cars while we ride the Christmas tree at the parades.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 10 March 2021 10: 30
    +1
    they quickly catch trends ... and offer the market whatever their heart desires ... fill all the niches of the arms market ... oh well done ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 10 March 2021 10: 38
    -1
    Analogue of T-15 "Armata": China is developing a new heavy BMP

    Quite expected events ... sorting, copying they are masters.
    1. Alf
      Alf 10 March 2021 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Analogue of T-15 "Armata": China is developing a new heavy BMP

      Quite expected events ... sorting, copying they are masters.

      They are also masters in another - in the ability to settle down everywhere, with the support of the state.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 March 2021 11: 21
        +1
        What do you mean?
        1. Alf
          Alf 10 March 2021 11: 28
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          What do you mean?

          Exactly what he said.
          Yes, they are notable copiers. But they work for the customer on the principle "any whim for your money." And they do and sell everything that the customer wants, pay and receive. They sold the last Type-59 in 2008, and the MiG-21 in 2011. And at the same time they enjoy the support of the state, both at the level of finance, in the form of all kinds of loans, and in politics. Unlike our soplezhuy leadership.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 March 2021 11: 41
            +2
            Don't touch ours, it's useless and I don't want to swear ...
            And in China, they found an effective way to earn babosiks ... this cannot be taken away from them either.
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  • iouris
    iouris 10 March 2021 12: 41
    +1
    Without solving the problem of active protection, the development of this direction will not give a significant increase in combat effectiveness.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 10 March 2021 21: 39
    0
    That's just for the time being to bring and run in and test individual samples - all and sundry will make similar ones in marketable quantities (yes, with a bunch of flaws and bugs), but the industry and sellers will receive money from sales plus experience how to apply, Later, on the basis of this and under the guise different options, they will get rid of critical flaws, again for money from orders of these options. In the end, everything is in business and money with work. What is hindering our military-industrial complex? Soon, Uzbeks and Tajiks will begin to twist the rope out of employers with the trends of a radical increase in salaries and benefits with threats not to work (like for this money, we can sit quite well in our country)