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Chinese shareholders urged Kiev to abandon the nationalization of the Motor Sich enterprise

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Chinese shareholders urged Kiev to abandon the nationalization of the Motor Sich enterprise

The Ukrainian mass media publish materials that talk about the claims of the Chinese shareholders of the Motor-Sich enterprise. These claims are connected with the fact that the other day Ukrainian officials announced their intention to nationalize the enterprise.


Earlier, Voennoye Obozreniye reported that the announced nationalization looks extremely strange, since after it Kiev again plans to raise the issue of selling the plant. All these perturbations, apparently, are aimed at trying to grab the assets of third-party shareholders, and this is hundreds of millions of dollars.

The Chinese business, which is one of the major shareholders of Motor Sich, has filed claims against Ukraine. It is noted that Chinese investors are urging to abandon the nationalization of the enterprise. Corresponding letters were sent to officials of the Ukrainian government, representatives of law enforcement agencies and structures, as well as to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
It is reported that letters from Chinese partners were received by such Ukrainian representatives as NSDC Secretary Aleksey Danilov, head of the Servant of the People faction in the Verkhovna Rada David Arakhamia, Rada Speaker Dmitry Razumkov, and others.

The message from Chinese investors says that the very nationalization of the Motor Sich enterprise will become a new and outright violation of the agreement. In the event of nationalization, Chinese business is going to collect $ 3,6 billion from Ukraine as compensation for damage done to the investment business of the PRC.

From the letter:

We would like to remind the public that any speeches or actions that harm Chinese investors or limit the legal rights of Motor Sich PJSC will be used as evidence or subject of legal proceedings and submitted to the appropriate judicial and law enforcement authorities.

It was noted that the Chinese business acquired the shares legally. Additionally, it is indicated that at the time of the transaction there were no legal restrictions.

From the letter:

The shares were available for purchase by any investor.

Let's remind that earlier in Kiev they said literally the following: "There are no Chinese investors in Motor Sich, there are only promises to invest and purchase shares."

Chinese investors call these statements blatant lies and threaten Kiev with courts.
Photos used:
Motor Sich website
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  1. Civil
    Civil 10 March 2021 07: 02
    +8
    It was predictable. The only question is what the PRC will do.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 March 2021 07: 06
      +14
      Chinese shareholders urged Kiev to abandon the nationalization of the Motor Sich enterprise

      Do the Chinese still hope for the adequacy and independence of Kiev in making such a decision?

      Holy simplicity...
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 10 March 2021 07: 32
        +27
        Holy simplicity...

        cunningly opih Chinese stumbled upon equally cunning opyh Ukrainians. For this, the circus is not enough for Jews to get involved in a fight. Here it would be to stock up on popcorn laughing
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 March 2021 07: 40
          +5
          Quote: Ka-52
          cunningly opih Chinese stumbled upon equally cunning opyh Ukrainians. For this, the circus is not enough for Jews to get involved in a fight. Here it would be to stock up on popcorn

          It seems that in this booth the Jews , can quite successfully replace Turks considering their involvement in cooperation with MotorSich ...
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 10 March 2021 15: 41
            +1
            American will not allow themselves to be replaced by anyone.
            They also try to keep the Turks on a short leash.
            Helicopters didn’t let Pakistan be sold. wink
            And then suddenly the Turks will become independent of the US engines! Disorder. bully
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 10 March 2021 08: 56
          +3
          the kidok was scheduled to sell shares. required investments (100 million), apparently even before the final entry into property rights.
          so the Kremenchug refinery was sold to Tatneft. and took away. the courts dragged on.
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 March 2021 10: 08
          +20
          Quote: Ka-52
          cunningly opih Chinese stumbled upon equally cunning opyh Ukrainians.

          I can say one thing, China is not a friend to us, and in terms of expansion, we are just closer to China than the outskirts. There is a Chinese saying: "Take everything from the weak."
          And if we talk about "At the border, the clouds go gloomily The edge of harsh silence is enveloped, At the high banks of the Amur the Sentinels of the Motherland are", then today we will not hold back China in the Far East.

          Just two decades ago, Heihe was a small border village, and now it is a free Russian-Chinese trade zone with multi-storey residential and commercial and administrative buildings, new parks and a large embankment. In the evenings, Heihe turns into Las Vegas. True, the backlight turns on quite late - three hours after sunset. The time difference between the cities is 2 hours.
          Since 2004, a visa-free regime has been in effect in Blagoveshchensk. In order to cross the state border between Russia and China from Blagoveshchensk to Heihe, you only need a passport.
          Heihe is the northernmost city in China. Its population is about 130 thousand people with an area of ​​10 square kilometers.
          1. FrankyStein
            FrankyStein 10 March 2021 11: 16
            +9
            Illumination is made only in the part that is visible from the Russian coast, and not only this applies to the illumination, but the entire construction and arrangement. Drive further south, there is already oops. This was done specifically for propaganda purposes.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 11 March 2021 10: 37
              +16
              Quote: FrankyStein
              Drive further south, there is already oops. This was done specifically for propaganda purposes.

              Are you sure that everything is bad there?
              And in your pocket, apparently, not a Chinese gadget, and a tik-tok is a Chechen invention?
              Give me two, just two parameters, according to which the Russian Federation is included at least in the first fifty dollars of countries.
              Shl. only here is no need to soar for the export of hydrocarbons and prostitutes.
              1. VORON538
                VORON538 13 March 2021 09: 40
                -1
                The export of weapons and the construction of nuclear power plants around the world will suit you? Otherwise, you stare at prostitutes. You pull out an agitation and rush around with it :)))
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 13 March 2021 13: 47
                  +18
                  Quote: VORON538
                  Arms export and construction of nuclear power plants all over the world, will it suit?

                  Tell me what do you export all over the world?
                  1. VORON538
                    VORON538 13 March 2021 14: 54
                    0
                    Exports the state, if that. :))) So do not pretend ... !!! :))) I wanted to hear, you were told.
            2. VORON538
              VORON538 13 March 2021 09: 44
              -1
              Quite right. The Chinese are oriental people and love to "brag" to the public. Downstream of the Amur, the villages are the same as ours :))) And Blagoveshchensk looks no worse from the Heihe side, only our streets are lit up throughout the city , and not for show-off like the neighbors! :)))
          2. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 10 March 2021 19: 25
            +3
            Quote: Stroporez

            Just two decades ago, Heihe was a small border village, and now it is a free Russian-Chinese trade zone with multi-storey residential and commercial and administrative buildings, new parks and a large embankment. In the evenings, Heihe turns into Las Vegas. True, the backlight turns on quite late - three hours after sunset. The time difference between the cities is 2 hours.
            Heihe is the northernmost city in China. Its population is about 130 thousand people with an area of ​​10 square kilometers.
            If it flows in China dairy Yellow He and Yangtze with jelly shores " - why do the Chinese go to "dense Siberia" and further all over the world and work for a pittance ... ???
            bully
          3. VORON538
            VORON538 13 March 2021 09: 37
            0
            I will tell you more about Heihe, Blagoveshchensk is less than a kilometer from it! Shacks were there more than 30 years ago, that's right. In the 2000s, they began to rebuild, and they were built at the expense of trade with Russia. Even the Yuandong shopping center was built, and it is written in Russian letters Yes, in the evening there is a beautiful illumination, it seems that there is Los Angeles right there. But if you look at this shine from the height of the 15th floor, you can see that there is a fog behind a number of buildings. That is, this is just a beautiful showcase for the Annunciation and guests of the city. During the day, in some skyscrapers, you can see that through the apartments you can see the windows from the other side. Nobody lives in these houses. When you go to Blaga from Nikolayevka in the evening, you can see from the side that behind a row of beautifully illuminated houses on the embankment in Heihe itself, low-rise buildings prevail. construction and again saving electricity. Because China sells electricity to its population quite expensively. The Chinese love a beautiful pont. Now the borders are closed with the crown, no one travels from them to us or from us to them. By the way, Chinese No tourists buy from us gold and ... food, alcohol. Do you know why? Because what is sold in our stores is equal in quality to those products that are consumed by well-to-do Chinese, and our prices are generally lower. Chocolate, beer, vodka, vegetable oil, milk, canned vegetables, as I saw a Chinese man carrying a box of "Doshirak" :))) So not all gold that glitters and do not try to convince a native of Blagoveshchensk that there is paradise beyond the river. signboard a bunch of chifaneks and, to put it mildly, sometimes smells bad!
        4. Alien From
          Alien From 10 March 2021 10: 14
          -2
          Here is the grin of capitalism) yes non-brothers will sell their own mother!
        5. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 10 March 2021 10: 16
          0
          Quote: Ka-52
          For this, the circus is still not enough for Jews to get involved in a fight

          Hindus !!
        6. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 10 March 2021 10: 20
          +2
          Quote: Ka-52
          For this, the circus is not enough for Jews to get involved in a fight. Here it would be to stock up on popcorn

          And who is the top of the Ukrainian government?
          Already got involved.
        7. bayard
          bayard 10 March 2021 11: 35
          0
          Quote: Ka-52
          For this, the circus is not enough for Jews to get involved in a fight.

          And who runs Ukraine today?
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 10 March 2021 12: 05
            +1
            And who runs Ukraine today?

            there are two forms of government in Ukraine. The first is economic and ruled there by ragged wild capitalism (akin to ours from the 90s), led by an oligarchy. There is a political form, but there from the citizens of Ukraine, in principle, no one rules. The political administration in this state resembles that of Poland after 1679. When it was essentially deprived of statehood, its government (the administration was carried out by puppet henchmen or, in general, Saxon electors), and the feudal lords (magnates) each pulled the blanket in their direction.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 10 March 2021 07: 37
        +4
        "They threw you .." © "Zhmurki"
        1. Ruslan Sulima
          Ruslan Sulima 10 March 2021 07: 53
          +8
          "They threw you .." © "Zhmurki"

          We got it here, we got it
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 10 March 2021 10: 11
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          "You were thrown .."

          Dill also decided to wrestle with triads. laughing There is dementia and courage, more precisely - greed and stupidity.
          1. Ruslan Sulima
            Ruslan Sulima 10 March 2021 10: 27
            -1
            What the conversation is about.
            In my opinion, it is impossible to determine the holes in Ukraine, which include Russia and the United States, or the sequence of entries. And China got it wrong ...
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 March 2021 10: 18
          +23
          Quote: 210ox
          "They threw you .." © "Zhmurki"

          Colleague, do not you think that it was us all who were thrown.
          "Russia without Ukraine is an angel with one wing. And people like Brzezinski and with all their forces (ideological and dollar) are trying to prevent the rapprochement of the two powers and the ONE people, once RUSSIAN. After all, there was Kievan Rus and we all: Kiev and Novgorod were one people - Russian. We forgot about it, or rather we were very well brainwashed, forcing us to forget our roots and hate each other, but Brzezinski and co remember well who WE are. Therefore, they do not divide us, they consider us all Slavic cattle, and Ukraine have always been considered part of the Russian Empire. "
      3. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 10 March 2021 08: 33
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Holy simplicity...

        The Chinese had to immediately complain to Washington ... with a well-known result ... Kiev has no free will ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 March 2021 09: 23
      -2
      Quote: Civil
      It was predictable. The only question is what the PRC will do.

      The series "Evenings on a Farm near Dekanka" continues (starring the famous clown Vova Zyo and his comrades from Kvartal-95), we are looking forward to the 2nd season.
    3. Maz
      Maz 10 March 2021 13: 01
      -2
      Ukraine is under US control, the problem must be solved with the Americans, not with their vassals
    4. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 11 March 2021 20: 50
      -1
      And which court is defined in an international treaty between the PRC and used Ukraine, as a place for resolving disputes?
      If the fairest Stockholm or no less fair London, then the Chinese will definitely sell.
      The court will decide that Ukraine must and ... will then say that Ukraine has a mitigating circumstance in the form of a permanently difficult economic situation over the past 30 years.
  2. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 10 March 2021 07: 06
    +4
    As the owner says, so they will. The Chinese need to write overseas, because such issues are not resolved in the metropolises.
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 10 March 2021 07: 57
      +3
      Quote: TerraSandera
      As the owner says, so they will. The Chinese need to write overseas, because such issues are not resolved in the metropolises.

      And the most democratic court in the world will say that the owner is "right", his word is firm! "Yesterday I gave my word - today I took it."
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 10 March 2021 08: 07
        +5
        Chinese business is going to collect $ 3,6 billion from Ukraine
        Naivnyak! The Hague court will order the PRC to pay Ukraine 3,6 lard for its naivety ... Russia paid the Poles and ukram for its own gas! fellow
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 10 March 2021 08: 06
      -13%
      Quote: TerraSandera
      The Chinese need to write overseas, because such issues are not resolved in the metropolises.

      Yes, this is not Russia, where the Chinese do what they want without asking.
      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 10 March 2021 14: 35
        0
        Well, yes, there they decide what to do between the Chinese and the fshists.
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 10 March 2021 10: 11
      +3
      Quote: TerraSandera
      such issues are not resolved in the metropolises

      It is there that they are resolved (not to be confused with colonies). yes
    4. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 11 March 2021 20: 51
      0
      Probably all the same they are not solved in the colonies. The metropolis in this case is just behind a puddle.
  3. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 March 2021 07: 09
    +7
    What are the naive Chinese shareholders. They don't know very well which country they are investing in. Let them learn history.
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 10 March 2021 07: 44
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      What are the naive Chinese shareholders. They don't know very well which country they are investing in. Let them learn history.

      It seems that the Chinese do not look like suckers, but after the svidomye threw them with grain, and they again on the same rake .... Yeah!
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 March 2021 08: 36
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      What are the naive Chinese shareholders. They don't know very well which country they are investing in. Let them learn history.

      And how much of that story, in relation to the "Power of the Outskirts"? 30 years old? Against the backdrop of the thousand-year history of China - generally a moment, nothing ...
      Vukriy herself would study history (at least the latest), and understand who they intend to "throw".
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 10 March 2021 08: 54
        -3
        And Mazepa? ...
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 March 2021 09: 01
          +6
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          And Mazepa? ...

          All of them "Mazep", as a historical figure in a fictional historical interior, will be a hundredfold overshadowed by only one Chinese.
          And who would have remembered at all, the "gentry" half-Pole Mazepa, if not for his service and treason to the Russian Tsar?

          Lao Tzu.


          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 10 March 2021 10: 10
            -1
            Interesting. Now I'll see what kind of "fruit" this is .. Thank you.
    3. orionvitt
      orionvitt 10 March 2021 20: 10
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      naive Chinese shareholders. They don't know very well which country they are investing in. Let them learn history.

      What is there to learn, what is the story? This country is just a few years old, everything is in our memory. However, she managed to be noted already in all serious ones.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 March 2021 07: 29
    +2
    Well, well, the argument between the blind and the deaf and dumb continues. ... The Chinese do not want to understand that Kiev is out of business here, you need to call the US State Department and rub them on their ears about the motor, and the vukers are not eager to return the money, especially since they were spent by theft, do not give the plant away , for not fig. ...
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 10 March 2021 07: 30
    +2
    Chinese shareholders urged Kiev to abandon the nationalization of the Motor Sich enterprise

    We can assume that the butting will begin ... who will be more cheerful? Who has the biggest horns?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 March 2021 07: 50
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      We can assume that the butting will begin ... who will be more cheerful? Who has the biggest horns?

      Expressions "Vigorous pig", I have not met request No. But the Chinese dragon has horns ...

      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 March 2021 08: 27
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Expressions "Squishy pig", I have not met

        Ha, what country are we writing about? About skakuasiya! And sho they have there, sho they invented, one ... Pan ZE knows. Maybe someone else is around him.
        In short, there are "miracles, there a horned bar rkaban may appear!"
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 March 2021 08: 29
          +5
          Quote: rocket757
          Ha, what country are we writing about? About skakuasiya!

          There is no such country request No. There is territory of madness.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 March 2021 08: 54
            +2
            But the local ones get excited, for one, two, three ... and climb wherever they were not invited. Shit on little things, pf-e.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 10 March 2021 08: 59
        0
        pig tail - armored tip, fighting.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 10 March 2021 10: 17
          +1
          Quote: antivirus
          pig tail - armored tip, fighting.

          Yes, it doesn't matter, because the result is the same:
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 10 March 2021 10: 29
          +1
          Quote: antivirus
          pig tail - armored tip, fighting.

          It's ... not a tail. laughing
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 March 2021 08: 05
    +1
    The naive Chinese shareholders, the striped ones, ordered, and the lackeys can only obey. Otherwise it is fraught with consequences. But the lawsuit in court for 3,5 lard of greenery, the Chinese will of course submit it.
  7. d4rkmesa
    d4rkmesa 10 March 2021 08: 19
    -1
    Oddly enough, the Ukrainians seem to have grabbed the dragon by the sensitive spot. The Chinese really need these engines, although they produce some at home, some are replaced with analogues, but nevertheless. There is one more point - Russian dependence on these engines. Unfortunately, our own production does not cover all the needs. After nationalization, the Ukrainians are likely to take up the "Baltic" schemes for the supply of engines and components for the UEC Klimov.
    1. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 10 March 2021 20: 24
      -1
      After nationalization, the Ukrainians are likely to take up the "Baltic" schemes for the supply of engines and components for the UEC Klimov.

      Are you sure that we will "need" it for free? At least without taking into account the opinion of "Svidomo" Banderlog.
  8. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 10 March 2021 08: 30
    0
    Kiev would not anger the Chinese dragon, the answer can come in very painful!
  9. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 10 March 2021 08: 31
    -10%
    How interesting ... And half a year ago, most of the commentators wrote that everyone, the Chinese will punish unreasonable ukrov for their cunning! And now I read - here, Chinese mugs, they will not see either money or a factory.
    Somehow, opinions changed dramatically ...
    1. Amba412
      Amba412 10 March 2021 12: 51
      +2
      They still appeal to reason. But with this ukrov has problems
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 March 2021 12: 58
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      How interesting ... And half a year ago, most of the commentators wrote that everyone, the Chinese will punish unreasonable ukrov for their cunning! And now I read - here, Chinese mugs, they will not see either money or a factory.
      Somehow, opinions changed dramatically ...

      Not abruptly, but consistently, according to the chain of events.
      For it becomes clear that the Chinese will have to deal not with Tabaki, but with Sher Khan.



      And a lot of commentators just noted this particular nuance. Did not notice ?

      So here it is:

      Mountain shooter (Eugene)
      The Chinese had to immediately complain to Washington ... with a well-known result ... Kiev has no free will ...

      TerraSandera (Alexander)
      As the owner says, so they will. The Chinese need to write overseas, because such issues are not resolved in the metropolises.

      Thrifty
      Well, well, the argument between the blind and the deaf and dumb continues. ... The Chinese do not want to understand that Kiev is out of business here, you need to call the US State Department and rub them on their ears about the motor, and the vukers are not eager to return the money, especially since they were spent by theft, do not give the plant away , for not fig. ...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 10 March 2021 13: 00
        -14%
        You at least picked up pictures from the correct mova. Or have they already started to forget? Previously, they did not hesitate to insert the first line from their anthem, but then there is some kind of failure!
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 March 2021 13: 14
          +5
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          You at least picked up pictures from the correct mova. Or have they already started to forget? Previously, they did not hesitate to insert the first line from their anthem, but then there is some kind of failure!

          What about your knowledge of the "correct move"? After all, it is unlikely that when your father proto-ukra + living on the outskirts and studying with a viiskovy instituti, you do not own it ...

          Pick up pictures, for what? request request request Established VNA jackals, does the Nazi regime deserve it?

          And as I understand, in fact, the above stated, you obviously had nothing to say, since it all came down to just a claim to the picture?
    3. Klingon
      Klingon 10 March 2021 14: 04
      0
      Well, usually the Chinese know how to wait, they never make sudden movements. The movement will be powerful and verified, and most importantly, at the right time wassat
      1. Filxnumx
        Filxnumx 10 March 2021 20: 31
        0
        By the way, there is an old Chinese proverb on this score: If you sit for a long time on the bank of a river, you can see the corpse of your enemy floating along it.
  10. Sayan
    Sayan 10 March 2021 08: 36
    +2
    The Chinese apparently do not know that when a Ukrainian was born a Jew and a Tatar wept wassat
  11. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 10 March 2021 08: 53
    +1
    The Chinese are still politely hinting that the Chinese are a very vindictive people, they know how to wait, then zhahnut in all directions. ZE BLOCH.
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 March 2021 09: 01
    +1
    The State Department does not want the Chinese to receive modern technologies. Everywhere they have time. The deal between Techmashholding and Rolls Royce on the purchase of Bergen Engin is blocked by the Norwegian government. Although 2 weeks ago they said that this was a commercial deal and they did not intend to block it. The decisive role in the blocking was something that is not unknown to everyone. Maryata have a Bergen Engin diesel engine and she is serviced by this company. Well, at least they didn't pay the money, at first they took up the paperwork. They lost money only for the registration. Rolls-Royce will now get their brains right. Oops!
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 10 March 2021 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The State Department does not want the Chinese to receive modern technologies

      At Motor Sich, all the technologies are still Soviet, nothing new has been invented there. Maybe China doesn't have that either. On the other hand, the photo for the article, with the Motor Sich stand at the exhibition, amused me. Exhibited "high-tech products", in the form of chainsaws, blowtorches and a walk-behind tractor. laughing
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 10 March 2021 22: 02
        0
        The Chinese are interested in technology, the composition of metals. They learned how to make a gearbox and an engine, but the resource is a sore subject. hi
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 10 March 2021 23: 53
          0
          Quote: tralflot1832
          The Chinese are interested in technology, the composition of metals

          The thing is that on! Motor Sich ", nothing secret was produced, except for product 95 (P95 300). In the technological map for any part, the grade of steel or metal (according to GOST) is indicated, from which it is made. With the collapse of the Union and the breakdown of the technological chains of Ukraine with Russia, for Motor Sich, some steel grades and alloys were ordered in the same China. It turned out even cheaper. copied (though not so good) back in the 70s. And you should know that taking a scrap from any part, you can easily determine the chemical composition of the alloy. So, China is primarily interested in production technologies, not materials.
  13. iouris
    iouris 10 March 2021 09: 08
    0
    You should contact Washington.
  14. cniza
    cniza 10 March 2021 09: 10
    +1
    Chinese shareholders urged Kiev to abandon the nationalization of the Motor Sich enterprise


    We need to go to Washington, not Kiev ...
  15. Maks1995
    Maks1995 10 March 2021 09: 44
    +1
    Ha. Apparently, Kiev has cleared the raider seizure, but did not manage to suppress it quietly.

    We also wrote, turned the Chinese from the Aviation Industry and from Baikal ... From the lake, by the way, just a year ago ...
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 March 2021 09: 46
    0
    Chinese shareholders urged Kiev to abandon the nationalization of the Motor Sich enterprise
    Useless. Kiev hears with only one ear, into which orders from Washington go.
  17. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 10 March 2021 09: 48
    +2
    And what about the lack of investment?

    The Chinese bought the Shares from a private entity, right? That is, paid money to someone, not the plant?
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 10 March 2021 10: 15
    +2
    Earlier, Voennoye Obozreniye reported that the announced nationalization looks extremely strange, since after it Kiev again plans to raise the issue of selling the plant. All these perturbations, apparently, are aimed at trying to grab the assets of third-party shareholders, and this is hundreds of millions of dollars.

    This is actually called a scam. The only problem is that China decided to throw, and this is the second country on the planet in terms of power and development. It was not given to the Russians 3 billion and everything went away, with the Chinese such tricks will not work twice.
    1. Klingon
      Klingon 10 March 2021 14: 08
      0
      I think the swineherds will still take a sip from the trough after China kicks them properly. I guess it will hurt wassat
  19. Evil 55
    Evil 55 10 March 2021 12: 47
    0
    A vivid case of confirming the hypothesis that with regular long-term vertical jumps of a Svidomo anthropoid, the planet's gravitational field not only flattens the brain of a modern UKRALinets, but also injures the cranium by transmitting a force impulse from the heels to the hypothalamus ..
  20. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2021 14: 44
    +1
    “There are no Chinese investors and no Chinese investment program. There are promises: the agreement for the acquisition of shares says that in 2018 they owe $ 100 million and $ 150 million - only 250 million. Not a penny! ”Boguslaev said.

    Boguslaev.

    Where is Si and where is Zelensky? Well, someone yapped. The Chinese will draw conclusions. Theoretically, investments and some projects could come. Now nothing will happen.

     That China should have declared war on the strongest Army in Europe named after Poroshenko? laughing
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 10 March 2021 18: 57
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      Perhaps Ukraine is right, there were no Chinese investors.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2021 14: 45
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    China today ranks first in the export of Ukrainian goods. In case of problems with the country's currency, the Chinese can tear this power to shreds. wassat laughing
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2021 15: 45
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    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    China today ranks first in the export of Ukrainian goods. In case of problems with the country's currency, the Chinese can tear this power to shreds. wassat laughing

    China is the largest buyer of Ukrainian goods and it is agricultural products. Rather, it doesn’t buy but takes it on account of debt. Will the Chinese refuse to take grain for those billions? Hardly. Why refuse: Zelensky says something. Well, let him. Who cares in China?

    Who cares about Ukraine, apart from the United States and its closest neighbors? And the United States remembers Ukraine solely because of its territorial proximity to Russia. laughing
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2021 15: 46
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    They will add 10gr on price tags in Ali and beat off losses in a week. laughing
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2021 15: 52
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    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Ka-52
    cunningly opih Chinese stumbled upon equally cunning opyh Ukrainians.

    I can say one thing, China is not a friend to us, and in terms of expansion, we are just closer to China than the outskirts. There is a Chinese saying: "Take everything from the weak."
    And if we talk about "At the border, the clouds go gloomily The edge of harsh silence is enveloped, At the high banks of the Amur the Sentinels of the Motherland are", then today we will not hold back China in the Far East.

    Just two decades ago, Heihe was a small border village, and now it is a free Russian-Chinese trade zone with multi-storey residential and commercial and administrative buildings, new parks and a large embankment. In the evenings, Heihe turns into Las Vegas. True, the backlight turns on quite late - three hours after sunset. The time difference between the cities is 2 hours.
    Since 2004, a visa-free regime has been in effect in Blagoveshchensk. In order to cross the state border between Russia and China from Blagoveshchensk to Heihe, you only need a passport.
    Heihe is the northernmost city in China. Its population is about 130 thousand people with an area of ​​10 square kilometers.

    Yes, YES Ketai are Ketai everywhere laughing They will make everyone narrow-eyed. laughing laughing
  25. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2021 16: 06
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    Quote: FrankyStein
    Illumination is made only in the part that is visible from the Russian coast, and not only this applies to the illumination, but the entire construction and arrangement. Drive further south, there is already oops. This was done specifically for propaganda purposes.

    This person posted what he found in the tyrnet and will scare everyone on VO with the Chinese laughing laughing
  26. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator 10 March 2021 19: 30
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    They call the wrong ones.) They do not decide anything.
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 March 2021 20: 02
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    Quote: Alex Justice
    Perhaps Ukraine is right, there were no Chinese investors.
    The Chinese need blueprints and ideas from the USSR, not the enterprise itself. But at the same time, there is a loan agreement, according to which Motor Sich must return $ 2026 million in 100. The loan was issued by the Chinese side at 0,3% per annum. Note that the Chinese side bought Motor Sich with a loan obtained from a state bank of the PRC. A huge loan ($ 2,5 billion) was also taken for the construction of factories in China - they were supposed to be launched on the basis of Motor Sich technologies. But, since the full-fledged entry into ownership of the Zaporizhzhya enterprise did not happen, it is clear that plans for factories in the PRC also "stuck", which drove the Chinese investor into losses. It should be noted that Motor Sich's position is not the best now. Its Chinese shareholder is under double sanctions, fraught with business problems. Motor Sich is trying to reassure its business partners as much as possible. Just after the imposition of sanctions against the Chinese, the Turkish defense company Baykar announced that it would use engines from the local company Tusas Engine Industries for its combat drones, replacing Motor Sich engines. That is, foreign sales markets are being closed. As for the internal, there are also questions. For example, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov did not say in a recent interview that the ex-owner of Motor Sich Boguslaev is more engaged in imitation than in the production of helicopters, and is trying to impose on customers equipment that does not suit them. Allegedly, because of this, the Ministry of Internal Affairs at one time made a decision to purchase helicopters from the French Airbus. That is, it turns out that Motor Sich, which at one time was left without a Russian sales market (it was key for it), now runs the risk of losing other export directions, and the prospects for expanding its share in the Ukrainian market, and, in particular, increasing state orders, at the moment are very vague. This is one of the arguments of the supporters of nationalization. Say, now the legal status of the company is uncertain and will not allow it to work fully. Possible nationalization will only strengthen the position of the Chinese in international arbitration, since it will confirm Ukraine's “unfriendly” actions towards business. If China wins the case, it will have to pay billions in compensation. According to international arbitration, there is a mechanism for the collection of funds, up to the seizure of the country's assets abroad. The amount is several times higher than the real cost of Motor Sich. Even on the eve of the deal with the Chinese, international auditors estimated it at about a billion dollars.
    1. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa 11 March 2021 09: 22
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      It must be admitted that the Chinese are now in a difficult situation. The plans for the construction of the plant did not materialize. They have not yet been able to copy the engines, if everything were so simple, they would have done it long ago. Their dependence on these engines is still rather big. The same heavy helicopter was designed for Motorsich engines. And not only him, TCB, other helicopters. In Russia, the situation is similar. Clowns from UEC Klimov annually declare victory over imports, but in reality the "Baltic scheme" works. But there are some achievements - about 200 engines a year are already produced entirely independently. I am not talking about aircraft engines and for heavy helicopters - there is no replacement for them yet, they import as much as they can, but it does not always work out. If not for that, you could get some popcorn and watch the show.
  28. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 10 March 2021 23: 58
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    what earlier in Kiev said literally the following: “There are no Chinese investors in Motor Sich, there are only promises to invest and purchase shares»

    Kind people and managed to get the Chinese comrades to contact them ...
  29. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 11 March 2021 00: 16
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    I wonder when buying and selling shares to the Chinese, were they evaluated? Or maybe the shares were sold at an overpriced price, then the Chinese can challenge the value of the shares in the Court and recover the difference from the "poorhouse". And the next step is to recover damages in the form of foregone benefits and reputational costs (although it is difficult to prove) from Ukraine.
    If Ukraine tells Chinese investors that during nationalization, investors are not entitled to anything, because they have not entered into their own rights as an owner, then the Chinese will only have to file a claim for recovery from unjust enrichment, only the amount of payment + %% .....
    In general, the contract must be looked at, incl. what law the parties are guided by when exercising it - Chinese, European, Ukrainian or, for example, Mongolian ...
    I think the Chinese were in a hurry with the purchase, but as they paid them all at once "forgiven" ..... if only they would have provided security for this contract, or insured the risks .....
    However, we still don't know anything about the deal, I think the funnest is yet to come ...