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Russia does not plan to create a single army with Belarus

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Russia does not plan to create a single army with Belarus

Russia does not intend to create a unified army with Belarus, Moscow has no such plans. This was stated by the Russian Ambassador to Minsk Dmitry Mezentsev said on the air of the RBC TV channel.


Answering the relevant question, Mezentsev explained that there are currently no reasons for the integration of the Russian and Belarusian armies, interaction on military issues between Moscow and Minsk is taking place within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), and this is enough to maintain the defense capabilities of both countries.

At the same time, the level of trust between Belarus and Russia remains quite high, the countries conduct numerous military exercises, exchange confidential military information.

According to Mezentsev, all talks about creating a unified Russian-Belarusian army are just speculations and someone's "good imagination", there is no need to create such an army.

Mezentsev said that the West does not intend to put up with the integration of Russia and Belarus and continues to try to tear Minsk away from Moscow. At the same time, he stressed that the West did not abandon the idea of ​​shaking Belarus and more protests could be expected soon.

Earlier, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has repeatedly declared the full sovereignty of Belarus and refusal to unite with Russia into a single state, not counting the framework of the "union".
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  1. Olgovich
    Olgovich 9 March 2021 14: 01
    +1
    the main thing is to fight together: the enemies are largely the same.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 14: 07
      +14
      Quote: Olgovich
      the main thing is to fight together: the enemies are largely the same.

      To fight together, you need to have one command center - one General Staff. And this requires the unification of two armies into one
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 9 March 2021 14: 47
        +11
        Does one General Staff conduct joint exercises for them? Or does some kind of coordination mechanism exist within the CSTO?
        Think at your leisure ...
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 9 March 2021 16: 13
          +2
          Yes, Old Man has seven Fridays a week.
          Today we will unite, and tomorrow Europe will lift the sanctions from him, and immediately demand to separate it.
          With Russia, he began to be friends when he himself was pinned. And before that, he constantly made some claims, but he helped Dill
        2. XXXIII
          XXXIII 9 March 2021 16: 20
          -6
          Quote: Canecat
          Does one General Staff conduct joint exercises for them? Or does some kind of coordination mechanism exist within the CSTO?
          Think at your leisure ...

          When was the last time the army of Belarus participated in military operations? Or is it not our problem, what will happen to Crimea?
          1. Cananecat
            Cananecat 9 March 2021 17: 31
            -1
            Information for consideration.
            Belarusian special forces sometimes shone in our hot spots ...
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 9 March 2021 17: 54
              -2
              Quote: Canecat
              Information for consideration.
              Belarusian special forces sometimes shone in our hot spots ...

              Your information can be the basis for reflection, if there are facts on that ..... and nonsense written by an evil forum member, no one will perceive here ...
              1. Cananecat
                Cananecat 9 March 2021 18: 35
                -3
                And the men don't know ... (c)
            2. XXXIII
              XXXIII 9 March 2021 20: 10
              -1
              Quote: Canecat
              Information for consideration.
              Belarusian special forces sometimes shone in our hot spots ...

              Well, where did the special forces fight for the independence and multi-vector nature of the Republic of Belarus? If this were the case, the first one who yelled at it was Luka, what a super duper special forces soldier he is.
              1. Cananecat
                Cananecat 9 March 2021 20: 30
                -3
                Quote: XXXIII
                Well, where did the special forces fight for the independence and multi-vector nature of the Republic of Belarus? If this were the case, the first one who yelled at it was Luka, what a super duper special forces soldier he is.

                Firstly - not harnessed.
                Secondly - the topic was on VO and there was a report where one high rank from the Republic of Belarus spoke about it.
                Thirdly, the place of action is Chechnya and Syria.
                Fourth, this is the normal practice of friendly special services.
                Fifthly, if you do not know about it, these are your problems.
                1. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 9 March 2021 21: 04
                  -1
                  Quote: Canecat
                  Quote: XXXIII
                  Well, where did the special forces fight for the independence and multi-vector nature of the Republic of Belarus? If this were the case, the first one who yelled at it was Luka, what a super duper special forces soldier he is.

                  Firstly - not harnessed.
                  Secondly - the topic was on VO and there was a report where one high rank from the Republic of Belarus spoke about it.
                  Thirdly, the place of action is Chechnya and Syria.
                  Fourth, this is the normal practice of friendly special services.
                  Fifthly, if you do not know about it, these are your problems.

                  I have not heard, litter. laughing
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 9 March 2021 16: 46
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        To fight together, you need to have one command center - one General Staff. And this requires the unification of two armies into one

        I share your thought, but only this way:
        To be able to defend against a common enemy, it is necessary to have a united army, well-coordinated interaction of troops and a common command headquarters.
        Quote: Canecat
        Does one General Staff conduct joint exercises for them? Or does some kind of coordination mechanism exist within the CSTO?
        Think at your leisure ...

        You don't have to think long. The answer is obvious. So far, both the Russian and Belarusian authorities are setting goals that do not lie in the plane of improving the cardinal way of life of the peoples of our countries. You don't have to prove: I go out and shop in stores, I see working conditions at enterprises where people work. The picture is the same - the universal dominance of temporary workers.
        I won't talk about the old man with his sons and the broom.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 9 March 2021 18: 06
          0
          Quote: ROSS 42
          I share your thought, but only this way:
          To be able to defend against a common enemy, it is necessary to have a united army, well-coordinated interaction of troops and a common command headquarters.

          NATu has no unified Army. There is a NATO command and a NATO command in certain theaters of operations, during the threatened period, pre-agreed formations and formations are allocated from each NATO country (having armed forces), which in peacetime are in constant readiness ...
          You now know what formations Batka is ready to allocate according to wartime plans to help the Russian Federation, and I don’t know, but you can read about the RRF of the NATO countries in the literature ...
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 9 March 2021 14: 13
      +6
      That is, the question of a union state among the bourgeois patriots who flooded the forum with snot about how the damned komunyaki destroyed the Great Beautiful Russian Empire is not on the agenda? Clearly understood.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 9 March 2021 14: 16
        .
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        about how the damned komunyaki destroyed the Great Beautiful Russian Empire is not already on the agenda?

        The question about this on this forum is closed as a couple of years ago)
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 9 March 2021 14: 20
          -1
          What exactly? You quoted me somehow incomprehensibly.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 March 2021 14: 27
        +10
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        about how the damned komunyaki destroyed the Great Beautiful Russian Empire is not already on the agenda?

        The abdication of the Tsar and the February Revolution are not the work of the communists.
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 9 March 2021 14: 59
      +4
      This is exactly what without which there is no sense in the union at all!
      And the rest, it is not possible to organize everything from the point of view of military, state expediency !!! Alas, alas, here without consent, trust, on both sides, nothing can be done simply.
      There is no simple answer, because the leaders of the countries do not find it. This is reality now.
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 9 March 2021 15: 23
      -8
      Luka resign, and Belarus is integrated into Russia, and the army will definitely be united!
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 17: 21
        -4
        Quote: Thrifty
        Luka resign, and Belarus is integrated into Russia, and the army will definitely be united!

        Well, yes, let "our" oligarchs profit, the Belarusian ones have less money. Do you think "unfriendly takeover" is the only way to create a union state? It is clear that Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are one big Russian people, but shouldn't our peoples enter this union state on equal terms?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 9 March 2021 18: 11
          -2
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          shouldn't our peoples enter this union state on equal terms?

          Of course on an equal footing. Let the Russian lands give back that they received from the RSFSR, during their stay in the Union and let them enter on an equal footing ... with the remaining lands ... otherwise, you see, at the next exit, their territory will become larger than the whole of Europe ...
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 20: 33
            0
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Let the Russian lands give back that they received from the RSFSR, during their stay in the Union

            Is it possible to find out which lands the Belarusians received from the RSFSR?
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 9 March 2021 21: 25
              0
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Is it possible to find out which lands the Belarusians received from the RSFSR?

              Yes.
              Already in 1923, in the party organizations of the Vitebsk, Mogilev and Gomel provinces of the RSFSR, the question of inclusion in the BSSR, initiated from above, began to be discussed. The Vitebsk communists were especially opposed. The Vitebsk provincial executive committee adopted a resolution in which it indicated that “the population of the Vitebsk province has lost its everyday Belarusian features, and the majority of the population is unfamiliar with the Belarusian language”.
              And still On March 3, 1924, the Central Executive Committee of the Soviets of the RSFSR (All-Russian Central Executive Committee or All-Russian Central Executive Committee) adopted a law according to which the RSFSR voluntarily transferred to the Byelorussian SSR most of the Vitebsk and Mogilev, part of the Smolensk and Gomel provinces. An additional territory of 58,2 thousand square meters was included in Belarus. km with a population of 2,7 million people and cities such as Vitebsk, Polotsk, Mogilev, Orsha, Klimovichi.
              Second gear territories from the RSFSR to Belarus took place in December 1926 years. The BSSR included the Gomel and Rechitsa districts of the Gomel province of the RSFSR (in connection with which the latter was abolished within the RSFSR) with an area of ​​15,4 thousand square meters. km and a population of 800 thousand people. Thus, as a result of these two-act territorial broadcasts organized by Stalin, the original territory of the Byelorussian SSR increased by two and a half, and the population more than tripled. The eastern borders of the republic practically coincided with the eastern borders of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until its first partition in 1772 (with the exception of Velizh, Nevelsky and Sebezh districts of the former Vitebsk province). The BSSR began to correspond to the status of a union republic.

              Source: What lands of the Russian Federation did Stalin donate to Belarus
              © Russian Seven russian7.ru
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 9 March 2021 23: 44
              +1
              Commentator Lara Croft wrote down below. I would like to note that as a result of the enlargements of 1924 and 1926, both the territory and the population of the FSUSR increased threefold. And this consolidation took place after the creation of the USSR. Some Belarusian party workers in the late 20s talked about transferring Bryansk and Smolensk from the RSFSR to the BSSR, but the vector of Stalin's policy had already changed by that time, and they were ordered to stop talking on this topic. As Ponomarenko wrote in his memoirs, at the end of the war, Stalin had the idea of ​​transferring Polotsk and a number of regions around it from the BSSR to the RSFSR and the creation of the Polotsk region of the RSFSR. But Ponomarenko persuaded the leader not to do this.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 9 March 2021 23: 47
          +2
          It should be understood that the unification of two states, in one of which 146 million live, and in the other 9 million, and the gap in GDP is even greater, cannot be completely equal. And that's to put it mildly. The principle of "one person, one vote" has not been canceled.
    5. Clear
      Clear 9 March 2021 16: 14
      +5
      Earlier, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has repeatedly declared the full sovereignty of Belarus and the refusal to unite with Russia into a single state, not counting the framework of the "union

      Yes, just have time to write down for this "comrade". He, in one day, will say ten dissertations in social psychology wink
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 9 March 2021 18: 13
        0
        Quote: Clear
        He, in one day, will say ten dissertations in social psychology

        In clinical psychology ...
    6. XXXIII
      XXXIII 9 March 2021 16: 23
      -4
      Quote: Olgovich
      the main thing is to fight together: the enemies are largely the same.

      Yes, a weak army in the Republic of Belarus, the people are chasing, and not conducting operations against enemies. There is no place to let off steam, there is a whole Donbass, come and defeat the gopniks of the outskirts. and not sell them gasoline.
      1. Torins
        Torins 9 March 2021 17: 46
        0
        When did our army drive the people? Are you in yourself?
        1. hound
          hound 9 March 2021 17: 54
          +1
          Barbed wire at the stele, for example.
          1. Torins
            Torins 10 March 2021 07: 55
            +1
            When did the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs become an army?
        2. XXXIII
          XXXIII 10 March 2021 00: 19
          +1
          Quote: Torins
          When did our army drive the people? Are you in yourself?

          That the Internet was turned off?
          1. Torins
            Torins 10 March 2021 07: 55
            0
            Apparently to you, google how the police differ from the army.
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 10 March 2021 11: 04
              +1
              Quote: Torins
              Apparently to you, google how the police differ from the army.

              And nobody knows. One question is where are so many police in Belarus, where is the army?
              1. Torins
                Torins 10 March 2021 17: 26
                -1
                Even 10 years ago there was an official infa that 120 thousand people work in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And the army will never interfere in the internal affairs of the country, this is not their task, well, perhaps to arrange a military coup, but this does not apply to the topic)
                1. hound
                  hound 10 March 2021 21: 28
                  -1
                  Quote: Torins
                  Even 10 years ago there was an official infa that 120 thousand people work in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And the army will never interfere in the internal affairs of the country, this is not their task, well, perhaps to arrange a military coup, but this does not apply to the topic)


                  You tell this to the Minister of Defense, otherwise he does not know - he tells everything how they worked perfectly and how they are ready to carry out any order.
                  1. Torins
                    Torins 10 March 2021 21: 38
                    -1
                    Where did you work? You are talking nonsense. The military dug in around Mogilev, but they did not drive anyone through the streets.
                    1. hound
                      hound 11 March 2021 01: 00
                      0
                      Quote: Torins
                      Where did you work? You are talking nonsense. The military dug in around Mogilev, but they did not drive anyone through the streets.


                      "The Belarusian Defense Ministry said that now it has taken responsibility for protecting such memorials, and that any riots near them will cause a reaction from the army."

                      It's good to sit on a cloud, isn't it?
                      1. Torins
                        Torins 11 March 2021 10: 08
                        0
                        So where did they drive the people? Or do you have a rubber bullet in your head?
                      2. hound
                        hound 11 March 2021 10: 36
                        -1
                        Quote: Torins
                        So where did they drive the people? Or do you have a rubber bullet in your head?


                        You have a rubber bullet in your head, alesha. If you do not remember what you yourself wrote, contact a specialist, but it is not a fact that even he will help you.

                        You will communicate with your yazhebats in this way, they still do not understand anything and turn the page every 15 minutes.
                      3. Torins
                        Torins 11 March 2021 12: 25
                        -1
                        What do I have to do with yazhebats !? You collapsed from the upper shelf of the reserved seat? I tell you again, the military was not involved in dispersing the demonstrations. You have not provided any evidence to the contrary. The declaration for the protection of monuments and monuments is just a declaration.
                      4. hound
                        hound 11 March 2021 19: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Torins
                        What do I have to do with yazhebats !? You collapsed from the upper shelf of the reserved seat? I tell you again, the military was not involved in dispersing the demonstrations. You have not provided any evidence to the contrary. The declaration for the protection of monuments and monuments is just a declaration.


                        And I say again that you need to answer for your words. "And the army will never interfere in the internal affairs of the country." Or did you, like your beloved Lukashenka, blast the crap and then propose to forget it?
                        Was there an army around the monuments? Stood. Was it armed to disperse the processions? But how! Then what kind of non-interference in the internal affairs of the country is this?
                        Once again, to reinforce: outside an emergency situation, an army in a city with weapons can only appear at a parade, period.

                        "Involvement of the Armed Forces to perform tasks not related to ensuring military security and armed protection of the Republic of Belarus, its sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and constitutional order is not allowed ..."


                        https://tutby.gcdn.co/720x720s/n/it/00/0/nasadka_bez.jpg
                      5. Torins
                        Torins 11 March 2021 23: 20
                        0
                        Once again, show evidence of the dispersal of the protesters by the army, show a photo or video where the soldiers beat or shoot at the protesters. Are you a balabol or who? This is, firstly, secondly, I have never been for Lukashenka, but this does not mean that at least one of Tikhanovskaya's team is worthy to be at the helm of the country, I would judge both of them.
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  • APASUS
    APASUS 9 March 2021 14: 05
    +3
    I see no reason for unification, I think that common standards are required for equipping, arming and supplying troops.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 9 March 2021 14: 10
      -6
      Quote: APASUS
      I see no reason for unification, I think that common standards are required for equipping, arming and supplying troops.

      In NATO, nothing prevents the unification of armies, but there are no associations. Likewise, the Europeans are not yet ready for a unified European army.
      1. Gato
        Gato 9 March 2021 14: 16
        +6
        NATO

        Is NATO a role model?
        The question is different: in which academies the senior and senior officers of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation were trained.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 9 March 2021 14: 18
          -6
          Quote: Gato
          NATO

          Is NATO a role model?
          The question is different: in which academies the senior and senior officers of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation were trained.

          I am sure that the CSTO countries are not ready for the unification of their armies, I think Russia does not need it either
          1. Gato
            Gato 9 March 2021 16: 10
            +1
            I also think that the CSTO countries are not ready for such a radical step, by and large there is no need for this. We are talking about the creation of a structure of a single vertical of the united command in case "if suddenly"
          2. XXXIII
            XXXIII 10 March 2021 00: 28
            -2
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: Gato
            NATO

            Is NATO a role model?
            The question is different: in which academies the senior and senior officers of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation were trained.

            I am sure that the CSTO countries are not ready for the unification of their armies, I think Russia does not need it either

            Taking into account the level of their training and equipment, but Russia does not need it now, otherwise they will take away weapons for export for free. As long as we keep the defense ourselves, we have enough strength to make such allies multi-vector. As before, Russia deprives us, and there is a river of gas, oil, loans for nothing. And now, as they undertook to cheat according to the rules, the cart rushed over the bumps.
            An interesting iPhone is in the ally's office.
      2. apro
        apro 9 March 2021 14: 18
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        In NATO, nothing prevents the unification of armies, but there are no associations.

        NATO is not a European project.
      3. Wolf
        Wolf 9 March 2021 14: 50
        +7
        NATO and Russia and Belarus are completely different in essence. NATO different peoples united in a military alliance, Russia and Belarus, one people is divided into 2 states. NATO army is completely different in the history of the army, mentality, language of customs, but in Russia and Belarus, everything is reversed. There is no reason here to be emulated by NATO. NATO has its own way, and Russia and Belarus have their own.
      4. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 18: 08
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        In NATO, nothing prevents the unification of armies, but there are no associations.

        NATO is a military-political bloc. It includes states with different languages, cultural traditions, history of formation and development.
        In Belarus, you are unlikely to find a Belarusian who does not know the Russian language, almost the same culture and traditions.
        And, creating a union state, it would be logical to unite the armies into one.
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 17: 24
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      I think that common standards are required for equipping, arming and supplying troops.

      Of course they are required.
      Quote: APASUS
      I see no reason to unite.

      And here it is possible in more detail, why don't you see? Only for economic reasons, or is there something else?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 10 March 2021 09: 42
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        And here it is possible in more detail, why don't you see? Only for economic reasons, or is there something else?

        Tax authorities, border troops, financial regulation bodies (currency) should be joint for the union state, while the rest of the structures are quite viable and can fulfill their role.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 March 2021 14: 16
    .
    In general, Belarus can develop an army in accordance with European trends and entrust the air defense and air force to the Russian Federation
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 March 2021 15: 44
      +3
      Quote: Zaurbek
      In general, Belarus can develop an army according to European trends

      Exactly. yes Including changing tables on naval ships and comprehensive protection of the rights of LGBT people in the army, like in the Bundeswehr. However, such a baidu can only be advised by a dumb foe. am
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 March 2021 15: 49
        +1
        They do not have ships ... I meant rapid reaction forces, single heavy armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles instead of armored personnel carriers and TANKs, MRAPs, etc. ...
  • svoit
    svoit 9 March 2021 14: 25
    +1
    The plans for the unification of both countries and armies have long been developed and 90% fulfilled, it is not clear what are we waiting for?
    1. apro
      apro 9 March 2021 14: 29
      +1
      Quote: svoit
      it is not clear what we are waiting for?

      And who needs it ??? Why the Belarusians to unite with the Russian Federation ???
      1. unaha
        unaha 9 March 2021 14: 52
        -6
        Moreover, it is useless for both categories - both focused on Europe and the current regime.
        1. apro
          apro 9 March 2021 15: 35
          -2
          Quote: unaha
          both categories

          It's understandable, it's not clear why ???
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 17: 34
          0
          Quote: unaha
          Moreover, it is useless for both categories - both focused on Europe and the current regime.

          I would be grateful if you substantiate your idea.
          1. unaha
            unaha 10 March 2021 10: 09
            0
            Yes, it seems obvious - the actor does not intend to lose existing opportunities, assets and "vectors" and become dependent. All the more Europe-oriented circles do not need a formal unification.
      2. shed
        shed 9 March 2021 15: 59
        0
        well, people are different and opinions, and so today Belarus is the only ally, the general grouping and the tasks are the same, but for the sofa ones you need to figure out what the unification of powerful RUSSIA and little BELARUS will give, firstly you cannot pass by sovereign BELARUS, the grouping is not even bad , Air defense, much more, at the expense of the headquarters, the couch was 10 years late, and the last is a lot of stupid shit in RUSSIA that spoil our relations, do we really need a war to understand we are one people, and all sorts of rubbish is trying to play us off, something like this
      3. vitvit123
        vitvit123 9 March 2021 16: 23
        +5
        Why separate? Is it always interesting that ordinary people live differently in Russia and Belarus? Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, etc. (all republics) .. in which country do ordinary people live in abundance? In all the republics they live the same way, and in the Russian Federation something may be even better. So why split up? Why live separately from each other if nothing has changed for the better for people? Belarus is always with an outstretched hand (and this is even with a free market in Russia), Ukraine is a beggar, Georgia is a beggar, Armenia is a beggar, etc. And Russia, half of Ukraine, Belarus is generally one country, one people.
        Why does Belarus need unification ... then just help Russia (with money, force, vaccine ...) then that it is not a self-sufficient territory ..
        1. apro
          apro 9 March 2021 16: 28
          -7
          Quote: vitvit123
          then that is not a self-sufficient territory ..

          The same can be said about the Russian Federation.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 9 March 2021 16: 42
            +1
            I absolutely disagree with you and consider your words just a provocation ..
            And I'll just write the differences (some) of the territory called Belarus and the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation has access to the sea, Belarus does not. They need to drive everything through third countries, and this money needs to be paid to everyone, of course, except for the good Russian Federation. Compare who has how many natural resources .., funny, not a single peat.! Who is begging for money from whom ... who ran to whom for protection, etc.
            In general, I consider your words a provocation and would not write anything in response, but now I am free ..
            1. apro
              apro 9 March 2021 16: 47
              -1
              Quote: vitvit123
              Compare who has how many natural resources ..,

              Only to whom they belong and who makes a profit from it and how they use it.
              Quote: vitvit123
              Who begs for money from whom ...

              Why do you give ?? especially since Belarus pays for loans with interest.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 9 March 2021 18: 15
                0
                Well, for sure ...
                Who owns is a different topic .. the question about the availability of resources? ..
                And when will she pay off the interest if she owed 7,5 billion dollars and again the seias begging? Ukraine also pays a myth with% .. when to pay off?
                So that ...
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 17: 37
          +3
          Quote: vitvit123
          Why separate?

          You might think that the peoples were divided. If the ruling elite was divided, it would be more convenient for everyone to rob his people.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 9 March 2021 18: 19
            0
            Well, it means that the top also do not want to join, i.e. Luka (not Putin, namely Luka, Putin would have joined) ... I always say about this that Luka is the first villain, for him the most important thing is power and money. And nothing depends on the will of the people .. I'll say right away that I don't like your comments very much (because they often give off populism and stupid cliches, in my opinion), but here it turns out I agree with you.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 20: 50
              +3
              Quote: vitvit123
              Well, it means that the top also do not want to join, i.e. Luke.....

              I think Luka would have added the same thing, it's just that "our" oligarchy does not yet provide acceptable conditions. Unfriendly takeover of the Belarusian economy, the Belarusian oligarchy is not satisfied.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 10 March 2021 08: 45
                +3
                Belarus has no economy, because it does not pay for itself, and Luke is the first oligarch and ruler who will resist unification to the last. All these stories about bloodthirsty Russian oligarchs eager to devour a small but proud Belarus are no longer in trend. There are not many who want to take on this burden.
    2. ver_
      ver_ 9 March 2021 15: 33
      -2
      ..the gypsy wants to become the topmost ..
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 17: 45
        +1
        Quote: ver_
        ..the gypsy wants to become the topmost ..

        Are you trying to enroll Belarusians as "gypsies"? There is no one worse than nationalists, probably no one, that's who should hang on the same rope with Vlasov and Krasnov.
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 9 March 2021 19: 02
          0
          Nationalism is a phenomenon that can appear and disappear depending on the circumstances .. by the way, many citizens of independent republics are also ardent nationalists, including Belarusians ..
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 20: 47
            +1
            Quote: vitvit123
            Nationalism is a phenomenon that can appear and disappear depending on the circumstances ..

            Nationalism strongly depends on the education of the people (nation) and on the attitude of the state to nationalism, the more educated the people, the less they are struck by nationalism. There are as many nationalists among Belarusians as there are among Russians.
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 10 March 2021 08: 48
              0
              I disagree. I have a mother-in-law from Belarus, so I am close to these pathologies (which they do not notice). They live at the expense of Russia and in Russia itself, but all the same, this is how Belarus is very good there .. I say go there, so there is no Russia without it will not survive.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 9 March 2021 23: 50
          -2
          This is Lukashenka's nickname among some Belarusians. Indeed, there is really something gypsy in his appearance.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 18: 13
      -2
      Quote: svoit
      The plans for the unification of both countries and armies have long been developed and 90% fulfilled, it is not clear what are we waiting for?

      And Baba Yaga is against! She doesn't want to be the governor of the Polar Division.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 9 March 2021 14: 56
    0
    "At the same time, the level of trust between Belarus and Russia remains quite high ..."

    "The tradition is fresh - but hard to believe" repeat (c) folk proverb

    Let them minus me, but while Father continues to sit on two chairs at once, there can be no talk of any "joint activity"
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 17: 49
      +1
      Quote: Corona without virus
      Let them minus me, but while Father continues to sit on two chairs at once, there can be no talk of any "joint activity"

      "But father" expresses the interests of the small-town Belarusian capital, nothing more. And the interests of the Russian and Belarusian capital today do not converge very much.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 18: 16
        +2
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        "Father" expresses the interests of the small-town Belarusian capital,

        I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Father only expresses his interests. I don’t want to move from the president’s chair to the governor’s chair.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 9 March 2021 20: 36
          +2
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that Father only expresses his interests.

          "But father" is a politician and head of state, such people do not have many "personal" interests.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 22: 44
            +2
            [quote = aleksejkabanets]
            "But father" is a politician and head of state, such people do not have many "personal" interests. [/ Quote]
            You understood me wrong.
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            "But father" expresses the interests of the small-town Belarusian capital, [/ quote]
            I wanted to say that the "small-town capital" is up to one place for him. He thinks about Belarus. But ... When it comes to creating a truly union state, its interest comes first. If he was sure that after the unification of Russia and Belarus, he becomes the president of the new state, then tomorrow he put his signature on this document.
            And if not, then he is not satisfied with the governor's chair.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 9 March 2021 18: 21
      -1
      Quote: Crown without virus
      while Father continues to sit on two chairs at once - there can be no talk of any "joint activity"

      The most cruel thing is that then and even more so ...
  • svoit
    svoit 9 March 2021 15: 00
    +1
    Quote: apro
    Why should the Belarusians unite with the Russian Federation ???

    Of course, the plan should indicate specific actions to answer this and other questions.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2021 18: 18
      +1
      Quote: svoit

      0

      Quote: apro
      Why should the Belarusians unite with the Russian Federation ???

      To have the same standard of living. All the same, our standard of living will be better.
  • Postum
    Postum 9 March 2021 15: 02
    -4
    Ahahhaha, the state grandfathers have played out their mnogohovochki so much that the main ally, who is sponsored by these state grandfathers, twirls and twists them in one causal place. What is it, the base was not allowed to be placed, there is no integration, but joint military facilities were allowed, though on chicken rights and, apparently, if something happens, our people will be hostages on them if the Cockroach again turns his tail towards the west. This is necessary, the United States is pouring less money into its allies, but it is trying to achieve what it wants and deploying not only bases, but also serious weapons. Putin's Russia is pouring in billions of people's money to support the anti-Russian regime of Lukashenka, and things are still there.
    Well, gentlemen, as in Krylov's fable, no matter how much integration you play, but
    All in musicians do not suit
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 9 March 2021 17: 36
      -1
      And diarrhea of ​​thought often pours out of you?
  • Garist Pavel
    Garist Pavel 9 March 2021 15: 11
    +4
    It would be nice. And not only armies to unite ...
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 9 March 2021 16: 09
      -2
      Not bad, but expensive. The final balance will be negative. Gaster will not be allowed to enter Europe so willingly, and government officials and dependents will have to be fed in the Russian way. And, one wonders, will we agree to 25% VAT for this?
  • ver_
    ver_ 9 March 2021 15: 30
    -4
    ... mmmdya - a gypsy with an army of leprechauns .. a very powerful army ...
  • mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 9 March 2021 15: 41
    +4
    Daddy has been stirring up the water with the Union State for 30 years since the collapse of the USSR, and as a result - annual loans to the Republic of Belarus, despite the fact that the latter systematically delays in servicing them.
    Giveaway games with sanctioned goods through the Republic of Belarus is also not an empty phrase, the daddy enriches himself on the sanctioning service, repackaging European products that are prohibited in our country.
    What kind of a united army is there, but Lukashenka will never, while he is in power, allow his troops to fall under even partial control of the RF Armed Forces.
    Question: in the event of a war or provocations in the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, for example, from Ukraine, will the General Staff of the Republic of Belarus and its army be able to cover at least their border or carry out actions "to enforce peace"?
    Can the air defense of the Republic of Belarus without us provide a comparable level of protection against air attacks by enemy aircraft and UAVs?
    Is the SPN of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, like our special forces, in Crimea, for example, able to ensure quick actions in the adjacent territory if Ukraine begins to creep apart at the seams as a result of stopping the pumping of gas from Russia through its GTS?
    Questions - questions ...
    But dad is asleep and sees that if necessary, he will ask our troops to bring them to them in order to stay in power as an independent monarch.
  • Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 9 March 2021 16: 06
    -2
    I believe it will start here with a unified government. But in the future it is done suddenly.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 9 March 2021 16: 55
      -6
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      I believe it will start here with a unified government. But in the future it is done suddenly.

      Either swallowing or nothing.
      We need a rating like after Crimea.
      1. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 9 March 2021 17: 44
        +1
        Well, I didn't say that it would not be the current government of the Russian Federation)
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 9 March 2021 17: 30
    +1
    To cooperate with dad in this format is not that easy, not possible. Everything draws him to number one, but the competition is extremely strong. winked
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 9 March 2021 19: 22
    0
    Answering the relevant question, Mezentsev explained that there are currently no reasons for the integration of the Russian and Belarusian armies,


    Clear, short and understandable.
    There is no reason to integrate armies.
    They are absent as a class.
    Two different armies of two different states.
    All.
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 9 March 2021 19: 23
    -1
    At the same time, the level of trust between Belarus and Russia remains quite high


    lol
  • DmSol
    DmSol 10 March 2021 15: 08
    +1
    Quote: vitvit123
    Belarus has no economy, because it does not pay for itself, and Luke is the first oligarch and ruler who will resist unification to the last. All these stories about bloodthirsty Russian oligarchs eager to devour a small but proud Belarus are no longer in trend. There are not many who want to take on this burden.

    What nonsense. They have everything. It's just that the percentage of state-owned enterprises is higher than ours. But also the state. enterprises, as practice has shown, go bankrupt and get bogged down at times. Lukashenka can be understood as long as there are more minuses from integration than pluses.
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  • Pardus
    Pardus 13 March 2021 14: 40
    +4
    Russia does not plan to create a single army with Belarus

    And why then all these integrations of the two states? Politicians say that there will be no union state, the military, that there will not be a unified army ... Nonsense. Only the unification of the two states and nothing else!
  • Pardus
    Pardus 13 March 2021 14: 42
    +10
    The West does not intend to put up with the integration of Russia and Belarus and continues to try to tear Minsk away from Moscow. At the same time, he stressed that the West did not abandon the idea of ​​shaking Belarus and soon another protests can be expected.

    Moreover, in these conditions we need to unite into a single Union. Only together can we resist the West.