"G36 is a weapon that soldiers completely trust": MK556 assault rifle excluded from Bundeswehr tender

Armory company CG Haenel from Suhl in Thuringia (Germany) was excluded from the tender for the supply of new assault rifles to the German Ministry of Defense to replace the G36 rifle. This is reported by the German media.

Haenel's MK556 assault rifle was finally excluded from the tender, but the company is not going to give up, threatening to sue its competitor in the tender, Heckler & Koch and the German Ministry of Defense, declaring "unfair competition." At the same time, the exclusion of Haenel from the competition means that the Bundeswehr will have to choose between the HK416 and HK433. However, this issue may drag on for a long time, and the old G36 will remain in service with the German soldiers.

Recall that in October 2020, the German Ministry of Defense withdrew an already concluded contract for an assault rifle manufactured by CG Haenel from the city of Suhl in Thuringia, thereby depriving the company of an order for 120 new Maschinenkarabiner 556 assault rifles (5,56 mm automatic carbine.). The reason for this was the accusation of patent infringement by CG Haenel, which was made by competitor Heckler & Koch.

The essence of the charge is a violation of the technology for removing water from a rifle after immersion in water. According to Heckler & Koch, competitors could have infringed their patent rights by designing a similar system for their weapons.

In mid-September last year, the German company CG Haenel won the competition from the German Ministry of Defense for the supply of a new assault rifle and the military department has already signed a contract for the supply of 120000 MK556 rifles. Deliveries are due to start in October-November 2020. The contract value was 245 million euros.

The MK556 rivals in the final of the tender were the HK416 and HK433 automatic rifles from Heckler & Koch, and the HK416, which was considered the favorite of the competition, lost due to its high cost.

While the companies blame each other, the Bundeswehr is left without a new assault rifle. The German Defense Ministry has already stated that "the G36 is a weapon that soldiers completely trust."

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

The essence of the charge is a violation of the technology for removing water from a rifle after immersion in water.

The pump of the wrong system panimaish ferstein?

[NDR-791]

The essence of the charge is a violation of the technology for removing water from a rifle after immersion in water.
Hmm ... I thought she just poured out, but it is "that's how it is, Mikhalych" (c). The gloomy Teutonic genius has surpassed himself

[Maz]

Heckler Koch is an excellent machine, accurate, trouble-free, lightweight. I would buy.

[NDR-791]

Well, why is there an advertisement for HK-416 ??? This is generally a clone of AR-15 ... Like HK-433, and Henele is the same (Henele above, Kohi bottom)

The Germans decided to leave two expensive samples checked. G-36

[Dimide]

Not quite a clone, the propellant gas exhaust system is different

[Constanty]

The problem is that the G36 did not really check - from the word covsem.
Eliminating HK from the competition for a new rifle would be a good punishment. Unfortunately, politics and big money are doing their job. Haenel, despite its history, tradition and brand name, is currently not a German company, that is the reason for excluding this company from the tender.

[yehat2]

Quote: NDR-791

The Germans decided to leave two expensive samples checked. G-36

it is worth remembering the history of attempts to adopt completely new rifles, with completely different cartridges. So the g-36 and NK416 are the height of conservatism, not the latest rifles.

[Eug]

The complaints were that it gets very hot during intense shooting.

[Usher]

Quote: Maz

Heckler Koch is an excellent machine, accurate, trouble-free, lightweight. I would buy.

What for?

[Kaman]

Quote: Maz

Heckler Koch is an excellent machine, accurate, trouble-free, lightweight. I would buy.

Maz, the Israeli welfare benefits are not high enough that you could afford to spend 2000 euros on such a pointless purchase. MAZ, this is admiration for the rotten West. Your hypostasis is to admire various variations of the Kalashnikov assault rifle. And the most important thing: to return to the Motherland, the sooner the better

[Prisoner]

Storm runoff is clogged. In general, byada.

[figwam]

It's funny that the Germans are butting with each other and in the MK556 and HK416 systems they use the American one from the AR-10.

[Invoce]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

The essence of the charge is a violation of the technology for removing water from a rifle after immersion in water.

The pump of the wrong system panimaish ferstein?

How do European weapons differ from Russian ones?
The Russians do not bother too much, they make it cheaper and easier - which in turn provides a certain degree of reliability.
Liberal European designers by their designers, among whom there are many people with non-traditional sexual orientation, strive to make it prettier, more comfortable (for those of their own orientation), which leads to an increase in cost, complication, weight gain and, ultimately, in a decrease in reliability ...
Something like this.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Invoce

make it cheaper and easier

Kalash (are you talking about him?) Nifiga is not "simpler", more reliable, but not simpler!

[Invoce]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: Invoce

make it cheaper and easier

Kalash (are you talking about him?) Nifiga is not "simpler", more reliable, but not simpler!

Give an example of any automaton with fewer parts!
https://topwar.ru/163862-ustanovlen-minimalnyj-nabor-detalej-ak-74m-neobhodimyj-dlja-strelby.html
The minimum set of AK-74M parts required for firing is set.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Invoce

The minimum set of AK-74M parts required for firing is set.

The fact that this is INCOMPLETE disassembly, did you notice?

[Invoce]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: Invoce

The minimum set of AK-74M parts required for firing is set.

That that this is INCOMPLETE disassembly, did you notice?

text copied from some source. Of course, not everything is true, but a smile still appears on the face.

M16 - The butt melts under the magnifying glass
AK47 - Under a magnifying glass, you can see Vietnamese mud still working instead of lubrication
Three-ruler - Under a magnifying glass you can see the BLOOD that has soaked the tree

M16 - Wedge when dirty
AK47 - Works when dirty
Three-ruler - There was no clean moment of issue to the troops in 1932

M16 - Hundreds of moving parts held together by dozens of bolts and screws

AK47 - A couple of dozen moving parts held together by a handful of rivets and ugly seams by a drunken Russian welder
Three-ruler - three moving parts, two screws.

M16 - You would rather die than break your expensive rifle in melee
AK47 - Your machine gun can fight back well in hand-to-hand combat
Three-ruler - Your rifle is a cool spear with the ability to shoot

M16 - if the striker breaks, you send the rifle to the factory under warranty
AK47 - if the striker breaks, you buy a new one
Three-ruler - If the striker breaks, you twist it a couple of turns further into the bolt

M16 - More difficult to manufacture than many aircraft
AK47 - Used by countries that don't have money for planes
Three-line - Aircraft shot down from it

Owner's favorite drink
M16 - Cognac
AK47 - Vodka
Three-ruler - Brake fluid drained over frozen scrap

M16 - Makes a small hole, everything is neat, in accordance with the Geneva Convention
AK47 - Makes a big hole, sometimes tears off limbs, does not comply with the Geneva Convention
Three-ruler - One of the reasons for the creation of the Geneva Convention

M16 - perfectly shoots small rodents
AK47 - perfectly shoots the enemies of the revolution
Three-ruler - perfectly shoots light vehicles

M16 - once in the river, it stops working
AK47 - hitting a river, still shoots
Three-ruler - once in the river, it is usually used as a paddle

M16 - Weapons for defense
AK47 - Assault Weapons
Three-line - Victory Arms!

M16 - The grenade launcher is heavy, but can put a grenade through a window 200 meters away
AK47 - If anything, a grenade from a grenade launcher can be thrown out the window with your hand
Three-ruler - A grenade through the window? Hit through the wall, the cartridge pierces almost a meter of brick

M16 - You can put a silencer, a small cartridge does not give much sound
AK47 - In principle, you can put a silencer, but it's better to just press enemies to the ground with continuous fire
Trilinear - Nafig silencer when after the first shot everyone will go deaf anyway?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Invoce

Trilinear - Nafig silencer when after the first shot everyone will go deaf anyway?

Koshkin has wonderful stories about German tanks in the same spirit.

[hohkn]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

The fact that this is INCOMPLETE disassembly, did you notice?

And when the parts are completely disassembled, it becomes not much more. If anything, we completely disassembled the AK-74M and AKMS. And they took them back. They shot, relatives, as before. And for disassembly-assembly, no tools were required, except for those included in the case with accessories. The only thing: on the AK-74M, unlike the AKMS, the trigger mechanism is not collapsible.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: hohkn

And when the parts are completely disassembled, it becomes not much more

It is clear that the barrel cannot be separated from the receiver just like that, but there are plenty of details in Kalash.

The M-16 is quite comparable in complexity and cost to the Kalash, but less reliable. And yet, the Chinese and Indian Kalashs are exactly the same in structure with the Soviet ones, but they are not particularly reliable, so it's not just a matter of "simplicity".

[Reserve buildbat]

If anything, the biggest difficulty is to do just... Kalashnikov coped with this. Simple, reliable, effective. There are no unnecessary troubles and nonsense.

[Invoce]

Quote: stock buildbat

If anything, the biggest difficulty is to do just. Kalashnikov coped with this. Simple, reliable, effective. There are no unnecessary troubles and nonsense.

Because Kalashnikov was a normal Russian man without gay liberalistic problems

[Reserve buildbat]

Let's not stick feces everywhere. Mikhail Timofeevich, together with the design bureau, created an excellent machine gun. In principle, this is a masterpiece, no worse than the Mona Lisa and other works of art. And all sorts of geeliberasts and other homosexuals is a completely different opera. From them to art - as to Mars on foot.

[rocket757]

So it is understandable, competition .... patent troubles, sacred cow, for many!

[Klingon]

H&K has a large lobby in MO, this is the main problem

[rocket757]

It is clear who is "lobaste" in the kings. There is nothing new, nothing special about it.

[rotmistr60]

While the companies blame each other, the Bundeswehr is left without a new assault rifle.

So let them sue until they turn blue to their own detriment, and we will look from the outside by clicking the AK fuse.

[Maz]

It’s good to click, of course, but the German machine, just as trouble-free as an AK, but more precisely in three, has a slide delay and a modular design, a barrel screw for better cooling of the receiver, a double cartridge case extractor, a magazine extractor button, gas piston adjustment with a key, a shutter with a specially built-in bearing and coated with a special composition to increase durability, forged barrel for 20000 shots, accuracy - 1 MOA, two-way control: fuse, fire selector, magazine reset, slide stop and release button ..., the barrel is hung out, has grooves, the barrel is carbometered inside, worth the money. In 2016, it was recognized as the best weapon in the US special forces by polls among military personnel. The rifle has a non-volatile shot counter. One of the carbines has had 70 rounds so far and is still working.

In service with ten countries, including in Russia for the special forces of the FSB and the General Staff

[figwam]

Quote: Maz

but a German car is as trouble-free as an AK

The AR-15 system cannot fight flawlessly in real conditions, only Kalashnikov!

[Constanty]

The Germans must have been well aware that the winter procession and the battles near Moscow are a path to disaster and they are not going to repeat this. And such tests are quite easy to manipulate, for example, by selecting suitable (or rather inappropriate) lubricants. I do not deny that AK is reliable - it is - min. thanks to the high dimensional tolerance of parts - but nothing comes for free

[figwam]

Quote: Constanty

AK reliable - it is min. due to the high dimensional tolerance of parts - but nothing is given for free

The German Mauser K-98 has a shutter with minimal clearances, while the Mosin shutter has large clearances, AR has minimal clearances between the parts, Kalashnikov has larger clearances, however, there is a continuity of schools.

[Constanty]

The question is, is this the result of "school" or the technological capabilities of factories?
Greater tolerance of parts reduces the requirements for the manufacturer, reduces the cost of the product, since it is easier to manufacture. However, often in the case of small arms, this leads to a deterioration in accuracy or, as in the AK-47, ergonomics or, for example, the ability to mount a sight. Of course, this can be solved, for example, using the AK-12 or the Polish Beryla as an example, but is it not puzzling that there are no weapons in the West except for the countries associated with the USSR (and Israel). based on AAK and on AP?
Although DX7 is an interesting idea !!!

[figwam]

But is it not puzzling that apart from the countries associated with the USSR (and Israel) in the West, there are no weapons? based on АAK a on AR?

And how do you imagine the AK adopted by NATO?

[Constanty]

Where is the problem? The Polish Beryl 5.56x45 has been a NATO weapon for many years.

[tagil]

The aiming range of the AK is perfectly enough at a distance of effective fire, so everything is in order here. In the early 90s, in one Asian republic, I witnessed how one non-Russian soldier from the DSh lost one of the axles that connected the trigger mechanism of the AK assault rifle. So this warrior simply took the first nail of a suitable size that came across, inserted it into the place of the axis, bent this nail with a stone (so that it would not accidentally jump out of the receiver) and tried out his "repair". The machine gun FIRED, single but fired, that is, a fighter could conduct combat operations. What weapon in the world is capable of withstanding such "bullying" of itself and continue to work properly. In general, in my memory, I don’t remember that at least someone would hand over the AK for repair and there were at least some problems with it (except that it was not possible to distort the bolt frame by hand from soot). So AK may be outdated for someone, but nothing better has yet been invented.

[Maz]

Quote: figvam

Quote: Maz

but a German car is as trouble-free as an AK

The AR-15 system cannot fight flawlessly in real conditions, only Kalashnikov!

What does the AR-15 and Heckler Koch 416 have to do with it? Do you know that the Germans had to change the name of the original rifle, so the Americans sued them? That is, they are different things, although they are similar. The Germans are serious lads, anyhow they don't equip their special forces ... And they took the 416th version of the A7 in the package.

[figwam]

What does the AR-15 and Heckler Koch 416 have to do with it?

Because it’s one and the same system, well, if you don’t know this, then what is there to talk about.

[Maz]

More recently, it became known that the new G95 assault rifle (HK416A7) will replace the G36KA1 / A2 / A4 automatic rifles. The new weapon will go into service with the units of the special operations forces of the ground forces and the naval special forces of the Bundeswehr and the KSK.

[Constanty]

The same KSK, where scandals with neo-Nazism break out now and then?

[Cowbra]

Actually, in the German press, Heckler-Koch is often called the "court company" of the government. And they often pull on her that because of this the Wehrmacht receives not the best, but the most expensive weapon. The latter is absolutely true, the price has been raised clearly unjustifiably

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Cowbra

that because of this the Wehrmacht gets

Maybe all the same the Bundeswehr? And then the Wehrmacht in 1945 ended, all.

[Cowbra]

The Bundeswehr is not allowed to go abroad, actually. So the Wehrmacht. Since the mid-90s, as they themselves canceled the ban. In general, it's time to change the names, otherwise Japan has self-defense forces with aircraft carriers ... I wonder how an aircraft carrier can be defended?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Cowbra

The Bundeswehr is not allowed to go abroad, actually. So the Wehrmacht

In the title, this "not to get out" is not reflected in any way.

[Constanty]

I wonder how an aircraft carrier can defend itself?

As the old truth goes, the best defense is offense - so it's absolutely possible.

[Cowbra]

Of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on self-defense, I do not even agree with you

[Constanty]

The Aluftwaffe did not end in 1945. They are just names. The creature is the same.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Cowbra

Actually, in the German press, Heckler-Koch is often called the "court company" of the government.

Now they can also "pull up" for excessive courtesy. They have a scandal in the non-village that is almost the loudest since the days of Gorbachev's association - the deputy was caught outright lobbying for the production of masks and their mandatory introduction into circulation. So now all the court suppliers of the court will be scratched.

[Tuzik]

I don’t know, now it’s the other way around, governments are courtiers of corporations.

[Cowbra]

This is in the USA. In Europe, it is still different.

[Niko]

Kickbacks do not work Competitive struggle, which, although not without difficulties, leads to a customer receiving a quality product

[awdrgy]

- "G36 is a weapon that the soldiers completely trust" Very good For hand-to-hand, nothing For the rest I will not say, I did not shoot and did not disassemble

[Incvizitor]

There, all these slats are removable, which is convenient if the side and bottom slats are not needed, removed and removed and do not carry this one about a kilogram of excess weight on your hands.

[awdrgy]

This yes I saw it I meant that I did not disassemble it and I don’t know how simple the device is to repair and operate, although of course you can read it on the internet, but a little too lazy Anyway, it doesn’t shine for me. I held it in my hands and described my impressions no more. in general, for AKM, it's more usual just

[Yuriy71]

My "Cry" from their problems! And in the photo the brave "Aryan" will not burn his hands on the kuzhuh?

[Klingon]

Quote: awdrgy

- "G36 is a weapon that the soldiers completely trust" Very good For hand-to-hand, nothing For the rest I will not say, I did not shoot and did not disassemble

for melee about nothing because there is only a barrel and a bolt iron, the rest is plastic

[Klingon]

Quote: figvam

It's funny that the Germans are butting with each other and in the MK556 and HK416 systems they use the American one from the AR-10.

ours also butted (butted?) from Izhevsk and Kovrov. And again, Izhevsk region has a large lobby in the Moscow region. Similar to H&K

[Alex_You]

As I wrote under the last article about the new rifle of the Bundeswehr, the weapon giant HK will not let some upstart rearm an entire army.

[Sentinel-vs]

And that problems with a decrease in accuracy by 30% due to rapid overheating have already been resolved? It was for this reason that a scandal broke out with the G-36 and the subsequent rejection of it, when the Zoldaten in Afghanistan revealed such a flaw.
So the rifle is interesting, the standard sight is optics + collimator, the ergonomics are excellent. But, as it turned out, it is not suitable for intense firefights. Although who knows, maybe the undercover games of gun lobbyists are to blame, and not a real technical problem. Well, the price of 36 is one of the most biting among the machines.

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

And that problems with a decrease in accuracy by 30% due to rapid overheating have already been solved?

The "problem" was resolved with an investigation, during which the seized rifles fully confirmed the declared characteristics on tests in a random order.
Overheating with subsequent spread turned out to be quite normal (for example, AK-74 and AKM overheat from two continuous bursts, after which they begin to "spit").

Well, the price of 36 is one of the most biting among the machines.

What is the price, so is the salary of the employees. German gunsmiths never worked for cheap.

[Wolf]

Doesn't have it with

German gunsmiths never worked for cheap.

.
The Germans are expensive in all their production, and the production is not justified by the price. They are no longer competitive on the world market. Weapons are good but not worth the money. It's the same with cars, especially that the quality of the cars is no longer the same as there were many design mistakes.

[K-50]

The G36 is a weapon that soldiers completely trust

Only now, from the word, she did not show herself on the good side in high-intensity shootings, especially in hot conditions. Well, let it be.

[Yuriy71]

))) When the next war comes and ... the stocks of the warehouses will be emptied, everyone will be saved by the Soviet PPSh, made by stamping methods ...)))

[Dimide]

Just the other day I read that MK556 will be adopted by the Bundeswehr, although, as always, somewhere in the middle

[Operator]

Turks who own Heckler und Koch through a Luxembourg-based laying firm defeated the Arabs who own Höneel