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Reliable and mutually beneficial agreement with "white people"

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Many laughed merrily at the treaty on the "Euroassociation" of Ukraine. Some were outraged by the vile and disgusting behavior of Herr Steinmeier, who signed a document with Yanukovych and representatives of the opposition, which was literally torn up in the morning and covered in blood. To most, it seemed wild, strange and absurd. And yet there is nothing "wild and strange" here and cannot be. Everything is simple, logical and understandable.


In principle, in the commercial sphere, absolutely the same “rules of the game” apply: a contract for the supply of equipment signed with a German concern is usually not worth the paper on which it is printed.

And why not?

And because certain

"Export restrictions".

That is, already initially, a certain condition is laid down in the contract, according to which the same paid the equipment will not be supplied to you on a completely legal basis.

At the same time, the problems that you will have because of this are only and exclusively your problems, no one will compensate, reimburse or apologize for anything.

What for?

From the very beginning, they are, as it were, right by definition, and you are not. This is the kind of "cooperation", a kind of "game of Russian roulette": you pay money

"Reliable German partner",

and then you either get the equipment or you don't.

Everything is strictly according to Ostap Bender.

But there is nothing new, unusual, absurd here: as you know, at one time the Dutch bought the island of Manhattan from the Indians quite cheaply (in exchange for beads). And this is also not a reason for irony: this is how white people are used to

"Do business with the natives."

At one time we used to like to ask the question:

"How did the West get rich?"

As if at the same time hinting that it is not at all accidental.

So, this is really no coincidence.

In short, it is called

"Unequal exchange".

Moreover, this very "unequal exchange" with the outside world has taken place over the centuries.

All riddles have their own answers. Sometimes completely unexpected.

Our beloved "civilized Europeans" have for centuries been accustomed to robbing the natives, sometimes directly, sometimes concluding "mutually beneficial agreements" with them.

This is the real reason for their economic well-being. And we must understand that they can no longer “live differently” (“on their own”) in principle. Because they have already fully evolved. And it is no longer possible to play back this process. That is why they are so active in the international arena: this is their bread and butter. This is the source of their well-being.

And the agreement with Ukraine is sensible and logical

"An honest treaty with the Indians."

And there is nothing to be surprised at, they concluded such "agreements" throughout their entire stories... Hence the well-being.

No, of course, the Dutch could trade with the British ... But what's the point? A fair XNUMX% return? And when, my dear you, will you “get rich” on such “profits”?

Colonial Europe (Spain, Holland, Portugal, France, Britain) rose precisely on the plundering of the natives. I understand, it is trite to the teeth. But it was this very robbery of colonies from the Aztecs / Incas, gold / silver of America, gold / blacks / ivory of Africa to the sale of British textiles to the Indians (at gunpoint) and the same sale of opium to the Chinese (at gunpoint!) Provided the material resources for the rise Europe in the New and Modern Times.

This is exactly what the Europeans like to refer to, and not some "charter of liberty". Steel screw steamers and magazine rifles in the second half of the XIX century made the dominance of Western Europe overwhelming.

"Ours had machine guns, bring the scores with the machine gun ..."

This is exactly about the achievement of material superiority through the dissemination of the ideas of "habeas corpus". At the barrel of the Maxim machine gun.

Reliable and mutually beneficial agreement with "white people"

By the way, this is where Europeans' persistent hatred of Russia comes from: it did not allow itself to be “colonized”. And only this form of interaction with the world around them is perceived by Europeans.

And these are not mere words: look at the modern Baltics (if the word “modern” can be applied to it). So, the complete absence of production in general of something resembling an economy, plus a complete political dependence on the "metropolis".

Only this way and nothing else: they have it at the level of instinct. And they cannot do it any other way. They simply cannot do otherwise.

And to a typical Ukrainian "question-statement":

"Well, do the French and Germans live normally?"

- you can answer very simply: that's why they live normally (and will live!) Because over the centuries they have become accustomed to colonizing people like you.
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  1. seti
    seti 10 March 2021 11: 07
    +23
    Everything is absolutely true.
    1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
      Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 10 March 2021 11: 43
      +2
      Quote: seti
      Everything is absolutely true.


      No, not everything is correct.
      The following is not true: it is from here that the persistent hatred of Europeans for Russia comes: she did not allow herself to be "colonized"
      To my regret, Russia, today's Russia, just gave itself to colonize.
      The grounds for my assertion are as follows.
      Question: What is the name of the country that exports raw materials and purchases finished products? Answer: Colony! It is for the colony that the export of raw materials to the metropolis and the purchase of finished products produced in the metropolis are characteristic.
      Since 1991 and even earlier in the USSR-RSFSR-Russia there has been a systematic collapse of the industry.
      The main source of income is natural rent, export of oil, gas, timber ...
      We are not able to carry out a complete "import substitution", we do not have a strong, competitive industry and industrial goods, which could compete with goods from the metropolis (collective west, Europe).
      The current government is doing regrettably little to revive the industrial potential of Russia ... Alas ...
      Based on the above, I declare: Russia is a colony !!!
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 10 March 2021 11: 58
        +16
        Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
        Based on the above, I declare: Russia is a colony !!!

        Based on what I have read, I can say that you are not very advanced in terms of defining the colonial dependence of one state on another. Moreover, I suppose that the shown degree of categoricalness of your assessment speaks of your low knowledge of the topic under discussion.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 10 March 2021 12: 07
          -3
          Interesting. At the beginning of the article, the author, as an axiom, cites a certain mythical rule of business in Germany, according to which goods can be obtained or not received. And without examples.
          I was on a business trip in Hamburg for almost half a year, specifically on the acquisition of German equipment. I can responsibly declare that there were no points indicated by the author in the contracts! Everything was delivered on time and in good quality (part of the equipment was purchased second-hand.)
          Moreover, when the first sanctions against the Russian Federation began (thanks to them, they became stronger), then we in advance warned that a breakdown in relations is possible. What happened later.
          So the author frankly fantasized the first part of the article.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 10 March 2021 12: 53
            +2
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            I was on a business trip in Hamburg for almost half a year, specifically on the acquisition of German equipment. I can responsibly declare that there were no points indicated by the author in the contracts!

            and the point about force majeure?
            1. andrew42
              andrew42 10 March 2021 13: 37
              +1
              Harrosh point! - especially during the wars of sanctions. And bribes are smooth.
          2. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 10 March 2021 12: 58
            +2
            A wonderful article on the topic: "Why and How". A couple of minor inaccuracies did not affect the disclosure of the topic. yes
          3. Olezhek
            10 March 2021 19: 42
            +7
            Interesting. At the beginning of the article, the author, as an axiom, cites a certain mythical rule of business in Germany, according to which goods can be obtained or not received. And without examples.
            I have been for almost half a year


            Does BAFA mean anything to you?
            Are you in general in the topic of trading in high-tech products?
          4. Adler77
            Adler77 12 March 2021 08: 30
            -2
            Did this happen during the period of the equipment supply contracts? Was the ordered and paid equipment delivered?
            What would you say if the equipment you paid for was not delivered and the money was not returned?
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 12 March 2021 08: 59
              -6
              Have you read my commentary? I wrote that everything was delivered on time and in good quality.
              And to guess: if only ..... This is not a civilized business. You need this for the market.
              1. Adler77
                Adler77 12 March 2021 09: 29
                0
                So the fact of the matter is that you have not touched. Please comment on the withdrawal from the sp2 projects of Swiss and German companies. It's not okay, is it?
        2. NEOZ
          NEOZ 10 March 2021 12: 52
          0
          Quote: Hagen
          Moreover, I suppose that the shown degree of categoricalness of your assessment speaks of your low knowledge of the topic under discussion.

          not only in this topic, but in general! on any topic ....
        3. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 10 March 2021 16: 59
          +4
          Quote: Hagen
          Based on what I have read, I can say that you are not very advanced in terms of defining the colonial dependence of one state on another ...

          And without the transition to personalities in any way? I also do not agree with the definition of "colony", the Russian Federation today is a semi-colony. However, there are no attempts to get out of this state, only conversations.
      2. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 10 March 2021 12: 09
        +12
        Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
        Based on the above, I declare: Russia is a colony !!!

        You have forgotten about the monetary system, which is completely subordinate to the metropolis.
      3. seti
        seti 10 March 2021 12: 16
        +5
        Quote: Sergey Olegovich Abrosimov
        Quote: seti
        Everything is absolutely true.


        No, not everything is correct.
        The following is not true: it is from here that the persistent hatred of Europeans for Russia comes: she did not allow herself to be "colonized"
        To my regret, Russia, today's Russia, just gave itself to colonize.
        The grounds for my assertion are as follows.
        Question: What is the name of the country that exports raw materials and purchases finished products? Answer: Colony! It is for the colony that the export of raw materials to the metropolis and the purchase of finished products produced in the metropolis are characteristic.
        Since 1991 and even earlier in the USSR-RSFSR-Russia there has been a systematic collapse of the industry.
        The main source of income is natural rent, export of oil, gas, timber ...
        We are not able to carry out a complete "import substitution", we do not have a strong, competitive industry and industrial goods, which could compete with goods from the metropolis (collective west, Europe).
        The current government is doing regrettably little to revive the industrial potential of Russia ... Alas ...
        Based on the above, I declare: Russia is a colony !!!

        Something seems to me you are carrying nonsense.
        My confirmations:
        - crude oil and gas are exported even by the USA. In huge quantities! The "highly developed" Norway, which they like to take as an example, will have almost no income and welfare without oil. And there are a lot of such examples. Even gold is just a commodity.
        - the collapse of industry in the modern Russian Federation is happening in your head (no offense). Yes, we are not yet developing at the pace that we can, but in recent years there has been a qualitative leap to the top. You did not live as a successful person in the "blessed" 90s and early 2000s.
        - What's wrong with mining? So everyone does it. I emphasize all who has them. Look how much round timber is supplied by a country like Germany. New Zealand has outdone us for a long time. And we are adopting a law that soon it will be mostly processed only within the country. And the same goes for oil and gas. Yes, not all volumes, but a significant number. But of course that doesn't interest you.
        - import substitution is taking place in many areas. There are problems who argue, but they are solvable and eventually they will be solved. Mishustin, Belousov and others are a good team. Their actions during an epidemic in the economy confirm this.

        It's just that in the country, to my great regret, it is not customary to yell at all corners about achievements, but the mud is pouring out all around. But you carry your "gas station country" further. You just know what - in Germany, at the ARAL branded gas station, I myself saw more than once how ... Lukoil was poured into BMWs.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 10 March 2021 12: 57
          +1
          Quote: seti
          You just know what - in Germany, at the ARAL branded gas station, I myself have seen more than once how ... Lukoil is poured into BMWs.

          yes, Russia doesn't make BMW like Germany .... but Germany doesn't make fighters DRY like Russia !!!!!! conclusion: Germany colony of the Russian Federation)))))))))
        2. max702
          max702 11 March 2021 15: 52
          0
          YOU also remind him about Sputnik-V, about graphene, about glasses for iPhones, about titanium for the aircraft industry, rocket engines, nuclear technology, shipbuilding in the most high-tech areas, a lot of things, but all this is useless because this is a friend in bucket doses ..
      4. Proxima
        Proxima 10 March 2021 12: 28
        +6
        Quote: Sergey Olegovich Abrosimov

        Question: What is the name of the country that exports raw materials and purchases finished products? Answer: Colony! ***** Based on the above, I declare: Russia is a colony !!!

        Sergei Olegovich, don't go too far! belay Based on your logic, such developed countries as Australia or Canada are colonies. After all, the lion's share of their exports are raw materials. And who, in your opinion, colonized Saudi Arabia? Not everything is so clear in this world as you imagine it ... No.
        1. apro
          apro 10 March 2021 12: 40
          +5
          Quote: Proxima
          Australia or Canada are

          Yes. Members of the british commonwealth. And the head of state the queen of the brit
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 10 March 2021 13: 18
            +1
            Quote: apro
            Quote: Proxima
            Australia or Canada are

            Yes. Members of the british commonwealth. And the head of state the queen of the brit

            Yes, of course, these states are nominally British dominions, but de facto?
        2. nonsense
          nonsense 11 March 2021 13: 16
          +3
          funny ... Australia and Canada are the most COLONIES! (and what is so "developed" you saw there?) The same is with Saudi Arabia. - They cannot afford anything against the United States. To "vyaknut" not only in the political sense, but also in the economic sense. For example, we will soon see how the States will ban Australia from selling coal to China, and what else they sell to the Chinese ... And the Australopithecines will be harassed and followed by the instructions of the Washington Regional Committee!
      5. Per se.
        Per se. 10 March 2021 12: 32
        +5
        Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
        The current government is doing regrettably little to revive the industrial potential of Russia ... Alas ...
        You are exaggerating a little, Sergei Olegovich, but without jingoistic patriotic demagoguery. Our current government inherited a great country with space and nuclear technologies. Now, if the pro-Western government of Kerensky had stayed, if the Chubais and Gaidars had come to power in 1917, Russia would have been destroyed, to the delight of our Anglo-Saxon "partners."

        We are still alive on the Soviet margin of safety, nuclear shield, developments in science and technology, everything from the USSR, fundamentally new things are not very successful, with reductions and optimizations, buy and sell, "effective managers".
        Probably, the renegades of the party would have long ago surrendered to their new masters, "for the sake of peace, humanism and tolerance," but the people would not understand. The ratings of the authorities under Yeltsin fell "below the plinth," there would have already been either a military coup, as exemplified by General Rokhlin, or a spontaneous riot.

        I had to change my old horse, puff up my cheeks, and wrestle with the West. Things have shifted, ratings have risen, the West has acquired the desired image of an enemy, new incomes, everyone is happy.

        But, "our" Central Bank, it seems, was not ours, remained under the IMF and the FRS, strengthening the US economy more than Russia. Previously, the church was separated from the state, but now in Russia the Central Bank is separated from its government, directly according to the constitution it does not have the right to lend to it. This, I suppose, is, if not a colonial sign, then the dependence of the vanquished.

        What will happen next, time will tell, to live in selected capitalism, and it is impossible to be free from the laws of its world masters, even while continuing to have nuclear weapons, and, remaining the only country in the world capable of destroying this world master, the United States.
        1. populist
          populist 10 March 2021 13: 47
          +5
          Quote: Per se.

          What comes next, time will tell

          As for white gentlemen and dense popuas, everything is clear.
          And where is Russia with its citizens, at what point on this scale?
          What is our country? Is it independent and sovereign, or is it a colony, a semi-colony, a neo-colony, a free hunting area for real gentlemen, or something else?
          What is our system. Many say capitalism. The more daring argue that feudalism; they say, estates are already being formed ...
          Capitalism is primarily characterized by freedom of entrepreneurial activity and general compliance with legislation. We have a "friend economy" and free interpretation of laws in the interests of the strongest. But everything is under the guise of capitalism.
          Thus, we have a pseudo-capitalist system. This is much worse than just capitalism. A state with such a system cannot develop.
          Does society understand the dead end in the development of Russia? By all indicators, there is no such understanding. That is why we are golimy (full) popuas and our path is in darkness.
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 10 March 2021 14: 45
            +7
            Quote: populist
            Thus, we have a pseudo-capitalist system.
            There is no such system, dear Yuri. There is a world economic pyramid of capitalism, there are those who are on top, and there are those who are below. There are those who are allowed (the same "red" China) and who are not allowed to have anything.
            It is impossible to create a "pseudo-capitalist" system or some kind of "parallel" capitalism, in general a "multipolar world", being in the only pole of power now, living according to the laws and rules of its world master and under the general dictate of the finally formed transnational monopolies.

            There are the owners of the "bourgeois", and there are the "bad boys", with their "jar of jam" and "pack of cookies" in the form of "acquired by back-breaking labor", which is stored in foreign banks and foreign currency, bought and built in the West.
            And, no illusions are needed, maybe yesterday's brothers and party traitors are still hoping to squeeze something from the owners, siphoning out billions from Russia, but they will remain "overseers", servants of the West.

            All the sanctions against them, for example, a fig leaf, an attraction where they mutually make money and raise ratings.

            The whole problem for them is the surrender to the West, our nuclear weapons, the great Soviet legacy, plus Russia's self-sufficiency in natural resources. It must be eaten up, brought to naught.
            Soviet military developments and natural raw materials are sold "optimally and at retail". Optimization of science, health care and education will soon give rise to individuals who are not able to be a society of creators, there will be a society of consumers, and then slaves. Brzezinski, with his idea of ​​"anaconda", was not far from reality, in the "soft" strangulation of Russia.

            Is there an understanding of the dead end in society? First, we need to understand that it is not a dead end for us, having discarded all illusions about "independent capitalism". This is a utopia. Russia can survive and be great only by returning to the socialist path of development, having revived a truly independent pole of power. I would like to believe that the time of bandits and renegades is not eternal, that Russia will be reborn as a superpower, for this we still have everything.
            1. populist
              populist 10 March 2021 18: 20
              +2
              Dear Sergey, I agree with you in many ways. First of all, in the hope of restoring the socialist system.
              I also agree that "there is a world economic pyramid of capitalism." But "red" China is in this pyramid and outside it. China has a different social order. This is chinism or an integral system according to Glazyev.
              But the Chinese way is closed for us with the current formation. The path of small developed capital countries is impossible for us. We cannot become a small Switzerland or Belgium. We are waging a fierce and partly successful struggle against socialist consciousness. And we cannot become a big country of developed capitalism in view of the historically negative ontogenesis of the ruling class.
              Objectively, the country is at a dead end. Therefore, I propose to first understand the impasse in which Russia is. And then choose the path that is in the field of socialism.
              Socialism is different. But any path lies through a change in the existing socio-political system.
              1. Per se.
                Per se. 11 March 2021 08: 01
                +1
                Quote: populist
                China has a different social order.
                China, a separate conversation, and about their system as well. You know, Yuri, the plot with China is in many ways reminiscent of the situation with the German workers' National Socialist Party, the permission of the Anglo-Saxons to appear the power of the Third Reich in Europe, first of all, as an anti-USSR to obtain the necessary military and economic potential against the Soviet Union. Thus, the West has allowed China to rise, closing its eyes to both the "commies" and the terrifying piracy with theft of technology.

                After Damansky, China became the eastern anti-USSR for the Anglo-Saxons, to fight with someone else's blood, play off peoples and warm their hands on it, for the sake of world domination, they are no stranger. In addition to cheap labor in China, the West received super profits from counterfeit products that exceeded legal profits. Our government is friendly with the Chinese, which is far from safe. The irony of fate is that the Soviet Union, our help and cover, allowed China to rise, but instead of a grateful ally, we got a monster on our empty borders, which has territorial claims to all neighboring countries, including Russia. These are not only impudent geographical maps that were sold in China with our territories assigned to them.

                During the "demarcation" of the border in 2005, our authorities unilaterally transferred to China strategically important border territories with a total area of ​​337 square kilometers. As they say, give a finger, bite off your hand, after China already wanted a number of territories in the Altai Territory ...
                Against whom is "red" China pumping up military power? Will they go along the ocean floor to the USA, to the overpopulated and poor southern lands, or to the nearest empty and resource-rich lands of Russia?

                Communism is unthinkable without internationalism, in China nationalism, and Chinese socialism, is the same product as Hitler's socialism for the Germans. The Chinese have socialism for the Chinese, therefore, in China there are "national communists", with the ideas of their own, the eastern "Reich", and this is fraught. The West does not need a strong Russia, in any form, with a tsar, democrats, communists or even thieves and bandits. So, think why there are sanctions against the new capitalist Russia, and from "communist" China, everything is like water off a duck's back.

                Wherever you throw us, there is a wedge everywhere, its own venal "elite" inside, eating up a margin of safety, impudent NATO "six" in the West, a new "friend" in the south - Turkey, in the east China ... The Anglo-Saxons have someone to entrust dirty but useful work , they are the masters and directors of the capitalist world, this is their world theater. The sooner Russia changes, gets out of the charter of someone else's uncle, the better.
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 11 March 2021 09: 05
                  +1
                  A return to socialism is salvation for sinking Russia. The question is, what to do with selfishness, the desire to row for oneself, to enrich themselves financially, to dominate, bending down one's neighbor? Taking into account that over 30 years they have raised such a personal Russian, a return to socialism, real, with a ban on personal enrichment and collectivism -
                  half of the country will have to shoot. There are no prerequisites for this. There is no power that has nothing to lose except its chains, capable of erasing the backbones to dust.
                2. populist
                  populist 11 March 2021 10: 59
                  +1
                  Per se. (Sergei)
                  China, a separate conversation, and about their system including

                  I agree with all the comparisons you made between Germany and China. These comparisons are very accurate and concise. In China, there is now such an undeclared National Socialism.
                  I remember the alarming expectations among the people after the events at Damansky. I then had a year and a half before being drafted into the Soviet army.
                  Nevertheless, China took over from the USSR the baton of the experience of socialist construction. According to the relay-stage theory of world development. (Yuri Semyonov). He has strengthened this experience by private-entrepreneurial activity and now has the most advanced socio-economic formation.
                  Marxism was basically written 200 years ago, while drawing in part on earlier ideas. It contains some erroneous provisions. One of the main such provisions is proletarian internationalism. This position has been refuted by many events. The most significant such events were the Second World War and the collapse of the USSR. And practice is the criterion of truth.
                  The position of our country is unenviable from all sides. The worst thing is that the people do not feel the dead end, do not see the reality and do not realize. It looks like we will become extinct like the dinosaurs.
      6. andrew42
        andrew42 10 March 2021 13: 46
        +4
        De facto, right, a colony. Now they will start blaming the mirror! It's not about who and what produces in unit quantities, it's about the quantitative and cost ratio of exported raw materials / semi-finished products and, accordingly, high-tech products with high surplus value (do not offer crazy software!). Of the latter, we have only RosAtom and Rosoboronexport, both of which are exclusively on the Soviet reserve. Well, they took care of the primary processing of timber, after 30 years (Thirty, Karl!). so when we stop buying hardware from China in large quantities, then we can return to this issue. In the meantime, our country is a raw material appendage. Know how to face the truth.
    2. Proxima
      Proxima 10 March 2021 11: 51
      +5
      Regarding the sale of Manhattan. The Indians were given textiles, beads, mirrors and various other trinkets for as much as $ 21! fellow At that rate, that's a lot of money! For the Aborigines, this was probably the deal of the century. good drinks Unfortunately, these are isolated cases. If it was more profitable for the colonialists to simply kill the natives and take their lands away, then they did it with pleasure.
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 10 March 2021 13: 18
        +2
        Quote: Proxima
        Regarding the sale of Manhattan. The Indians were given textiles, beads, mirrors and various other trinkets for as much as $ 21! fellow At that rate, that's a lot of money! For the Aborigines, this was probably the deal of the century. good drinks Unfortunately, these are isolated cases. If it was more profitable for the colonialists to simply kill the natives and take their lands away, then they did it with pleasure.

        You can probably also say that the land then in America was in bulk, and the Indians were just happy
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 10 March 2021 11: 09
    +3
    hatred of Europeans towards Russia: she did not allow herself to be "colonized"
    That was earlier ! And now we are "partners" for them!
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 10 March 2021 11: 22
      +3
      The author wrote everything correctly!
      It is a pity that in the former Soviet republics, such as Ukraine, the countries of the Baltic states, R. Moldova, and even R. Belarus, etc. the younger generation categorically does not understand this! Colonially self-sold to the Old West for "beads"!
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 10 March 2021 11: 31
        +8
        Colonially self-sold to the Old West for "beads"!

        Excuse me - but is everything somehow different in Russia ??
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 10 March 2021 11: 39
          +1
          Quote: paul3390
          Colonially self-sold to the Old West for "beads"!

          Excuse me - but is everything somehow different in Russia ??

          Of course, it's still different!
          Russia at least still POPULARLY celebrates on May 9 the Day of the Victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany!
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 10 March 2021 11: 47
            +8
            Hmm .. And - what, did you feel a lot better from this? In fact, in that war, the USSR and its citizens fought to the death so that our country would never become as it is now ...

            It's a good holiday - when the parade walks past the bashfully boarded up Mausoleum, without a single portrait of our Supreme Commander and with banners under which enemies and traitors who killed Soviet people fought against the USSR .. Ugh ..

            What right do we have to this holiday if we betrayed and poured everything into the toilet for which the victors of that time died?
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 10 March 2021 12: 09
              +2
              Quote: paul3390
              It's a good holiday - when the parade walks past the bashfully boarded up Mausoleum, without a single portrait of our Supreme Commander and with banners under which enemies and traitors who killed Soviet people fought against the USSR .. Ugh ..
              What right do we have to this holiday if we betrayed and poured everything into the toilet for which the victors of that time died?

              Do you want no parade at all in the Russian Federation on the occasion of the Victory Day on May 9 of the USSR over Nazi Germany?

              Under Yeltsin, for example, once on May 9, on the occasion of the Victory Day over Nazi Germany in Moscow, WWII veterans went to an unauthorized festive demonstration! The security forces began to disperse them by the decision of Moscow Mayor Luzhkov. As a result, one veteran of the Second World War simply died on the street in a clash with the security forces from a heart attack.
              And when, later, in the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation, Luzhkov from the rostrum made excuses to the outraged deputies for the ban and dispersal of this demonstration of WWII veterans, then in response to their accusations that Luzhkov insulted the people's memory of the war, Luzhkov laughed in their eyes and said: “I don’t understand why you are indignant? They will also give me a prize from above!”
              1. paul3390
                paul3390 10 March 2021 12: 17
                +4
                Do you want no parade at all in the Russian Federation on the occasion of the Victory Day on May 9 of the USSR over Nazi Germany?

                I want him to be under the red banner, with portraits of Comrade Stalin and - in the USSR.

                Once again, the current Russian Federation has NO right to this parade, because it is the embodiment of what our grandfathers fought so steadfastly and desperately against.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 10 March 2021 12: 29
                  0
                  Quote: paul3390
                  Once again, the current Russian Federation has NO right to this parade, because it is the embodiment of what our grandfathers fought so steadfastly and desperately against.

                  That's why the current government arranges the Victory Parade not so much for itself as for the people and human memory! And that is why its representatives sit at the parade at a distance from the mausoleum.
                  It would be ridiculous and unreasonable to see the current government on the HISTORICAL balcony of Lenin's mausoleum for the anniversary of the Victory Parade in the Second World War!
                  1. paul3390
                    paul3390 10 March 2021 12: 36
                    +6
                    the current government arranges the Victory Parade not so much for itself as for the people and human memory!

                    Not. Noneshnyaya power - simply stupidly exploits the human memory of the great Victory of the Soviet Union in their selfish base interests. Distracting people from the awareness of the surrounding reality and clinging to the great past of the country, which they themselves destroyed and plundered ..
              2. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 10 March 2021 12: 55
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                Do you want no parade at all in the Russian Federation on the occasion of the Victory Day on May 9 of the USSR over Nazi Germany?

                in the USSR until 1965 on May 9 there were no parades
          2. Jager
            Jager 10 March 2021 12: 03
            0
            And ... that's it ....
        2. Kart
          Kart 10 March 2021 12: 19
          -2
          Somehow differently, yes.
          The furious howl of Russophobes and mega-sanctions are not just announced.
          In the 90s, everything was the other way around - peace and friendship with the West.
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 March 2021 13: 04
        +1
        Quote: Tatiana
        the younger generation categorically does not understand this! Colonially self-sold to the Old West for "beads"!

        they all understand ... they hope that the Marshall plan will be applied to their countries, not Dulles ...
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 10 March 2021 11: 28
      +8
      now we are "partners" for them

      Not us, but our top. Oligarchs, which we do not have. Here they are - they may well be partners in robbing Russia and its people. Just for now - they have some grater about the share of each of the participants ... But the goal is one, to suck out of us everything that the Soviet regime left. And even that which she did not have time to reach .. And - to transport the extracted to the blessed West ..

      Actually, no one is hiding this, it's not for nothing that the native guarantor stubbornly continues to call them exactly partners? And in all our corporations - in spite of all the Western nastiness, are representatives of these very partners sitting almost completely?
      1. Kart
        Kart 10 March 2021 12: 24
        -7
        Quote: paul3390
        But the goal is one, to suck out of us everything that the Soviet regime left. And even that which she did not have time to reach.

        Almost nothing is left of the Soviet regime. Everything rotted and went into the ground.
        Outside the window is another country that has already built its own.
        It is this country that causes a furious howl of Russophobes, and no less furious salivation of new expropriators.
        Partners are such a diplomatic language. With a fair amount of irony.
        And yes - by definition, the communists cannot have your corporations. They are not all yours.
        But you want to grab them for yourself.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 10 March 2021 12: 39
          +4
          What's her own ?? One laugh .. Until now we live on the unstitched remnants of the legacy of the great USSR .. Everything has rotted from him .. How to swing the loot to the west - so nothing, everything is whole. And how to give at least something to the people - like, but there is nothing, like it has disappeared. Ugh.
          1. Kart
            Kart 10 March 2021 14: 17
            -1
            The people themselves earn what they need, mostly.
            But some are wailing in chorus, what would they be given.
            Doulu with oil.
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 11 March 2021 10: 09
              +2
              Can't you tell me where exactly you could make money, so that it would be enough for everything, plus the fact that the bourgeoisie canceled the Soviet social program? And then somehow all the pitiful pennies are offered for the opportunity to hump on the uncle who has grabbed the people's property with my working hands, created. Capitalism is evil, it is for swindlers, thieves, hucksters. And the "Byzantine" Russian evil is tenfold. Especially after the society of equality and social security of all, without exception, citizens of the USSR.
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 10 March 2021 12: 42
          +10
          And yes - by definition, the communists cannot have your corporations. They are not all yours.
          But you want to grab them for yourself.

          Stop being idiotic. Not to snatch - but to return the stolen to the people. All these corporations of yours are nothing more than Soviet enterprises plundered into the pockets of the bourgeois for a pittance. Or do you think Gazprom Putin personally created from scratch? Like everything else?
          1. Kart
            Kart 10 March 2021 14: 18
            -3
            There, at best, the walls remained from Soviet enterprises, like a corps from a Soyuz rocket.
            It is no longer yours. And it will never be yours.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 10 March 2021 14: 26
              +3
              Dream on. Sooner or later - but the stolen will have to be returned. They will not give it back with good - we will rip it out of the mouth, along with our teeth. And about the walls from Soviet enterprises - only pathological liars or outspoken ones can talk. Those who claim that the USSR produced nothing but galoshes .. But at the same time, they continue to shamelessly exploit the Soviet legacy, pumping hundreds of billions out of the once rich country.
              1. businessv
                businessv 11 March 2021 13: 43
                +1
                Quote: paul3390
                Dream on. Sooner or later - but the stolen will have to be returned.

                Colleague, you started a dialogue with the wrong - there will be no understanding from your opponent! Today, many come here to work - they are preparing for the elections, so look at the time of registration and the manner of writing in order to have an idea of ​​the interlocutor. smile
        3. businessv
          businessv 11 March 2021 13: 51
          +1
          Quote: Carte
          And yes - by definition, the communists cannot have your corporations. They are not all yours. But you want to grab them for yourself.
          Did you understand what you wrote yourself ?! laughing Where are the corporations and where are the communists? You, apparently, were given instructions vaguely, or you misunderstood them before you got a job as a clerk here. wink Due to active, but illiterate officials, the authorities today have the same - the same attitude - people are already spitting on it. Therefore, work thinner, do not annoy us even here, at VO. hi
    3. Alien From
      Alien From 10 March 2021 11: 41
      +3
      Such "partners" with pissing rags ....!
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      2. dSK
        dSK 10 March 2021 17: 31
        0
        Quote: Alien From
        Such "partners"

        at the Eurovision-2021 contest Russia will be represented singer Manizha... There she will perform the song Russian woman. This was announced on the air of Channel One.
        Tajik gay activist.
        1. dSK
          dSK 10 March 2021 17: 52
          0
          Russia-1 - All-Russian state television channel, owned by the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (VGTRK)

          TV entertainment studio
          Engaged in the production and supervision of the programs "Humor! Humor! Humor! ”, .... and preparation for the Eurovision Song Contest
          The head of the studio from the moment of its creation to the present time is Alexander Katansky, produced by Gennady Gokhshtein.
          Tolerant "squared", smile well and bend over. Hope to receive a prize from "partners" for gay advertising.
          1. dSK
            dSK 10 March 2021 18: 43
            -1
            "But neither the lyrics, nor the music have anything to do with a Russian woman. It looks very strange, not to say very badly. Nobody will vote for this even in Russia," he is convinced Senator Pushkov.

            Constantinople columnist Yegor Kholmogorov sharply appreciated the choice of the performer and song from Russia for Eurovision-2021. In his author's Telegram channel, the publicist stated that the song chosen for the international competition is openly mocking towards Russian women. And it is performed by a singer campaigning for migrants and homosexuals.
            No economic sanctions - bad personal monetary interest ...
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 10 March 2021 11: 10
    +2
    Reliable and mutually beneficial agreement with "white people"

    And when the "civilized, white man" was stopped by contracts signed with the "natives" ???
  4. ALARI
    ALARI 10 March 2021 11: 14
    +10
    Our beloved "civilized Europeans" for centuries have been accustomed to robbing the natives, sometimes directly, sometimes concluding "mutually beneficial agreements" with them
    - well, be like "civilized Europeans", not like a Papuan. do not change your homeland for rainbow papers, while this is happening, the attitude will be like the Papuans, why cry if the mug is crooked. The world is so arranged you, or a "white man" or a Papuan, the third is not given and you yourself decide who to become.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 10 March 2021 11: 25
      +6
      Quote: ALARI
      The world is so arranged you, or a "white man" or a Papuan, the third is not given and you yourself decide who to become.

      That's all right. Power is not given, power is taken. How much of the stolen is invested in a square meter of area in Europe ... By the way, and not stolen, too - it was a matter we ourselves invested by our own will. Now yes, partners. The lamb is also a partner for the wolf ... in the meal.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 March 2021 11: 54
      +2
      Quote: ALARI
      Our beloved "civilized Europeans" have been accustomed to robbing the natives for centuries

      Not forgetting in a neighborly way, to rob each other, while "brotherly" destroying the population of neighbors.
      1. ALARI
        ALARI 10 March 2021 11: 59
        0
        So the neighbors acted in exactly the same way "fraternally", and if you click your beak, somewhere in the chronicle such a state with such a people will emerge. The closest example of the USSR, we can speak about it only in the past tense.
    3. Quadro
      Quadro 10 March 2021 12: 00
      -2
      Excellent logic, if you were raped, it means that you are to blame yourself, dressed like this and walk around, rape yourself
      1. ALARI
        ALARI 10 March 2021 12: 05
        +1
        It is logic, and not fantasies about equality and brotherhood, if you have something, you should be able to protect it. What hasn't taught anything lately?
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 March 2021 12: 02
      0
      Quote: ALARI
      The world is so arranged you, or a "white man" or a Papuan, the third is not given and you yourself decide who to become.

      And if someone is white, but not Anglo-Saxon, then he can also be robbed as a "Papuan".
      1. ALARI
        ALARI 10 March 2021 12: 21
        +2
        But didn't this happen, remember Germany after the First World War, how it was ripped off, and they are not at all Anglo-Saxons. Now white is who won, who lost to the Papuan. the world is simple and it has not changed in a couple of thousand years, only the technology has become more perfect.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 10 March 2021 13: 28
          +1
          Quote: ALARI
          But didn't this happen, remember Germany after the First World War, how it was ripped off, and they are not at all Anglo-Saxons.

          Once again I remind you, “if someone is white, but not Anglo-Saxon, then he can also be robbed as a“ Papuan. ”So the White German Empire was robbed by the“ Anglo-Saxons ”.
          1. ALARI
            ALARI 10 March 2021 13: 46
            0
            So what is the contradiction Germans are not Anglo-Saxons, you can example in the same place the French in the First World War, too, well stripped of Germany. I wrote white-winner, Papuan loser. This is not your skin color, but your position in the world. After the defeat in Vietnam, France flew out of the great powers and became one of the countries of Europe.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 10 March 2021 13: 59
              +1
              Quote: ALARI
              can be an example in the same place the French in the First World War, too, well stripped of Germany.

              The Anglo-Saxons simply allowed the French to "use" Germany. And the Anglo-Saxons skimmed the cream from the German Empire.
              1. ALARI
                ALARI 10 March 2021 14: 16
                0
                It’s just not just a fact. You can remember Napoleon he subjugated all of Europe to France, in Spain, as in a colony, the troops fought and plundered, the Anglo-Saxons did not smell. If not for the defeat in the Battle of Trafalgar, then in England they would quickly remember the French language and the fact that they came from Normandy.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 10 March 2021 14: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: ALARI
                  If not for the defeat in the Battle of Trafalgar, then in England they would quickly remember the French language and the fact that they came from Normandy.

                  And who knows where these Normans, Angles, Saxons, Britons and many others come from. Part of one of the Scandinavian Danes settled on the northern coast of France. Another part, mainly Norwegians, settled in East Anglia, where they mixed with the local population. Many historians identify the Varangians with the Normans. And in fact, it was precisely the mixed tribes that created Britain, the most dodgy and most cruel.
                  1. ALARI
                    ALARI 10 March 2021 15: 09
                    -1
                    Imagine, they had to live on a small island with limited resources, near a country that can conquer you with one duchy (France), savages in the north (Scots), savages on the western island, and besides, pagans (Irish), so they grew up from this resourcefulness cruelty greed. Russia, too, began its journey from a small principality in the forests and swamps and also collected land with no gingerbread.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 10 March 2021 16: 34
                      +1
                      Quote: ALARI

                      0
                      Imagine, they had to live on a small island with limited resources, near the side of the country that can conquer you with one duchy (France)

                      And what can any empire, or some kind of state, developed differently. Each state appeared woven from different pieces and nations, through conquest and blood. But the Anglo-Saxon empire had at the time of its formation, a tougher power. For centuries, the Anglo-Saxons have polished the system of power and relations with other states - "divide and rule".
                      1. ALARI
                        ALARI 10 March 2021 16: 48
                        -1
                        It cannot, every empire has skeletons in the closet and a train of foul-smelling stories and actions without it.
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 10 March 2021 16: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: ALARI
                        It cannot, every empire has skeletons in the closet and a train of foul-smelling stories and actions without it.

                        Yes, there are enough "shkilets" everywhere.
  5. NEOZ
    NEOZ 10 March 2021 13: 32
    +1
    Quote: ALARI
    - well, be like "civilized Europeans", not like a Papuan.

    it is scary to be them ... it is to inflict pain and death on the natives ... we cannot be slave owners, we can only accept other peoples into our family ... this is both our strength and our weakness ...
    1. ALARI
      ALARI 10 March 2021 13: 41
      0
      The USSR followed this path, which ended up accepting into his family, feeding, bringing up, making the station of Russia equal to himself, a suitcase. And they gladly put their neck under the yoke of the slave owners. You cannot make one free, you can only become, Russia has gone this way through Igo, endless wars for independence with both the West and the South. To live like a wolf must be a wolf, otherwise they will devour.
  • Alexga
    Alexga 10 March 2021 11: 22
    +4
    Olezhek, thanks for the article, everything is written correctly! You can, if you like. laughing
  • Nikza
    Nikza 10 March 2021 11: 27
    +3
    Hmmm ... Why "... Russia: she did not allow herself to be" colonized "." ?? Russia to Europe and America oil, gas, metals. And they go to Russia with pieces of paper that you can't buy anything with. Because nothing needed will not be sold, only "beads". The United States "buys" engines from the aborigines and sends satellites into space that will kill these same aborigines. 500 worthless so-called dollars. "reserve" is that not beads?
    1. Amba412
      Amba412 10 March 2021 12: 27
      0
      We extract more oil, gas and diamonds than we can use ourselves. Are you aware that all PVC for Europe is produced in Russia, from gas produced in Russia
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 10 March 2021 12: 56
      0
      Quote: Nikza
      Hmmm ... Why "... Russia: she did not allow herself to be" colonized "." ?? Russia to Europe and America oil, gas, metals. And they go to Russia with pieces of paper that you can't buy anything with. Because nothing needed will not be sold, only "beads". The United States "buys" engines from the aborigines and sends satellites into space that will kill these same aborigines. 500 worthless so-called dollars. "reserve" is that not beads?

      So under the Romanovs, they drove bread, timber, etc. to Europe. And the entire top polls spoke French
    3. NEOZ
      NEOZ 10 March 2021 13: 34
      0
      Quote: Nikza
      500 worthless so-called dollars. "reserve" is that not beads?

      that's right, beads ...
      but to say that we are a colony is not true ...
      1. Nikza
        Nikza 11 March 2021 12: 31
        +1
        What is true? What prevents to admit that the Russian Federation is a colony? Shame? Treatment for alcoholism begins with admitting to oneself that the person is an alcoholic.
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 11 March 2021 14: 00
          0
          Quote: Nikza
          What prevents to admit that the Russian Federation is a colony?

          objective facts.
          no sanctions are imposed on the colony, it is instructed how to proceed.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 10 March 2021 11: 28
    +4
    Nobody canceled the fundamental rule, we are Indians for them. But still I think that the point is in the competent drawing up of contracts and prescribing conditions.
    So it turned out in the last contract of India for the supply of Rafale aircraft. It turned out that no one was going to supply technology to the Indians, but simply promised.
    1. Kart
      Kart 10 March 2021 12: 26
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      Nobody canceled the fundamental rule, we are Indians for them. But still I think that the point is in the competent drawing up of contracts and prescribing conditions.

      The point is that they really want to consider us "Indians".
      But this does not work - we do not agree. Hence the hatred and periodic visits to us in order to finally resolve the issue.
      But of course, this time you can help them from the inside - to arrange a coup, to destroy the industry. After all, she belongs to the oligarchs, why feel sorry for her?
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 10 March 2021 13: 35
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      But still, I think that the point is in the competent drawing up of contracts and prescribing conditions.

      Stockholm arbitration to help you ...
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 10 March 2021 19: 06
        +1
        Quote: NEOZ
        Quote: APASUS
        But still, I think that the point is in the competent drawing up of contracts and prescribing conditions.

        Stockholm arbitration to help you ...

        And that only Stockholm arbitration exists on the planet? Have you heard anything about attracting third parties as guarantors of the transaction?
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 11 March 2021 12: 05
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          Have you heard anything about attracting third parties as guarantors of the transaction?

          high court of london?
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 11 March 2021 13: 34
            +1
            Quote: NEOZ
            high court of london?

            Bank guarantees, insurance contracts, the issue of international securities for the project. There are a lot of tools that will not be ignored
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 11 March 2021 14: 02
              0
              Quote: APASUS
              issue of international securities

              are you talking about 3 billion. dollars allocated to Ukraine in 2014?
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 11 March 2021 15: 23
                0
                Quote: NEOZ
                are you talking about 3 billion. dollars allocated to Ukraine in 2014?

                This is me about the redemption by us of Ukrainian securities issued by a Dutch bank. No matter how the issue is closed. Ukraine must pay off all the interest as a separate decision, and they still accumulate. They will not give the money, because they do not have it, but they still owe interest.
  • knn54
    knn54 10 March 2021 11: 29
    +2
    A decent person (gentleman) is one who, with little profit, will not do a big meanness.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 March 2021 11: 50
      -1
      Quote: knn54
      A decent person (gentleman) is one who, with little profit, will not do a big meanness.

      A gentleman (Anglo-Saxon) is one who, with a meager payment and deception, will take away their territory from others with all the resources, while making the entire population slaves, or exterminate to a minimum.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 March 2021 13: 37
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        will take away their territory with all the resources from others, while making the entire population slaves, or exterminate them to a minimum.

        and so that the conscience does not gnaw, he will say that it is the will of God .... and in confirmation of this he will show the indulgence bought from the Pope !!!!!!!!!
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 10 March 2021 11: 56
      0
      Quote: knn54
      (a gentleman) is one who, with a small profit, will not do a big meanness.
      And if there is a big profit, he is capable of any meanness?
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 10 March 2021 12: 25
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      A decent man (gentleman) is one who, with a small profit, will not do a big meanness


      The roots are from chivalry.
      And European chivalry, it is.
      It was not customary to trade for little things.
      And if it happened, then among other things.
  • tatra
    tatra 10 March 2021 11: 33
    +4
    And why did the accomplices of the Communists, the White Guards, the Anglo-Saxons, who are praised by the current enemies of the Communists, occupied Russia in Civil? Naturally, not to help the White Guards free of charge to help fight against the Bolsheviks, but only for personal gain
    From the "Book of Memoirs" by Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich:
    “Apparently, the 'allies' are going to turn Russia into a British colony,” Trotsky wrote in one of his proclamations to the Red Army. And was he not right this time? inflict a mortal blow on Russia by distributing the most flourishing Russian regions to the allies and their vassals. "
    1. tacet
      tacet 10 March 2021 12: 15
      -3
      Both whites and reds entered into alliances even with the bald devil, if only to survive (it was possible to survive only by winning). And the winners were never able to recover what was lost
      1. Kart
        Kart 10 March 2021 14: 20
        +1
        So the red ones are ready for it now, even with the bald devil - if only to grab everything for themselves again.
    2. Kart
      Kart 10 March 2021 12: 29
      -4
      Quote: tatra
      “Apparently, the 'allies' are going to turn Russia into a British colony,” Trotsky wrote in one of his proclamations to the Red Army. And was he not right this time?

      Was it really a surprise for him?
      No, quite the opposite. exactly like him, together with the leader, they were just going to erase Russia into dust - well, as the beginning of the mythical "world revolution".
      That is, they wanted world domination, like the United States is now.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 12 March 2021 08: 09
        0
        There is nothing negative about the idea of ​​a world socialist revolution. Technically, it was impossible to accomplish this, at the beginning of the last century, by the forces of the RSFSR-USSR alone. For this Bronstein fell under the distribution. In the course of BB2 and later in 60-70, the first stage was possible, to push the bourgeoisie behind a puddle, so as not to confuse the minds of citizens who are not resistant to profit. They did not dare, although they were preparing. Well, as a result, we got a flower with disastrous consequences.
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 10 March 2021 12: 37
      +4
      Quote: tatra
      Naturally, not to help the White Guards free of charge to help fight against the Bolsheviks, but only for personal gain

      Franco-English agreement of December 23, 1917 on the division of the southern part of European Russia into spheres of influence (Convention between France and England on the subject of activity in Southern Russia).

      According to the signed convention, Britain laid claim to the North Caucasus, Armenia and Georgia.
      Crimea, Ukraine and Bessarabia were to "retreat" to France.
      1. tacet
        tacet 10 March 2021 16: 59
        0
        Peace of Brest ("obscene peace") March 3, 1918
        According to the signed treaty, about 660 square miles (including the Kholmshchyna) or 000 square miles were withdrawn from Germany together with the "Privislensk provinces" (Polish lands, without the Kholmshchyna). The Ottoman Empire retreated areas with an area of ​​760 square miles, and the loss of Finland added another 000 miles, which in total gave 17 square miles, or 000 286 square kilometers. At the same time, Estonia and Livonia were completely subordinated to the Central Powers only after an additional treaty of August 000, 1: on March 063, they were transferred only partially. And this is only the territory.
        Human and economic losses:
        To the west of the "Hoffmann line" lived 56 million people (about a third of the population of the European part of the Russian Empire) and until 1917 there were: 27-33% of arable agricultural land (37-48% of the collected grain), 26% of the entire railway network, 33% the textile industry, 73% of iron and steel was smelted, 89% of coal was mined and 90% of sugar was produced; housed 918 textile factories, 574 breweries, 133 tobacco factories, 1685 distilleries, 244 chemical plants, 615 pulp mills, 1073 engineering plants (collectively accounting for 32% of government revenues) and home to 40% of industrial workers; as a result of the change in borders, the very national economy of the former empire was also "dismembered".
        Moreover, only part of the territories of the USSR was able to return.
        So both sides fought for survival, which was widely used by the "white people"
    4. NEOZ
      NEOZ 10 March 2021 13: 41
      +2
      Quote: tatra
      And why did the accomplices of the Communists, the White Guards, the Anglo-Saxons, who are praised by the current enemies of the Communists, occupied Russia in Civil?

      for the same, for which the VKPB was sponsored before ...
      ps
      Lenin sat in Switzerland, didn't he? ..... like the Hodor .... like the choristers .... like Chichvarkin .... like Tikhonov's ... like the bulk ....
  • Galleon
    Galleon 10 March 2021 11: 34
    +2
    Concept article, describes everything concisely and correctly. Those who wish for the details of the dominance of Western civilization can recommend the book by Gerard Dimon "Guns, Germs and Steel" http://fb2bookdownload.ru/history/4289-ruzhya-mikroby-i-stal-istoriya-chelovecheskih-soobschestv.html - for example, from here.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 10 March 2021 12: 53
      -2
      Quote: Galleon
      Concept paper

      Is this what you mean ?:
      Conceptual articles differ from empirical ones in that they have no or very little primary data. Concept paper builds on the work of other researchers and logically links existing theories or concepts

      Or something different?
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 10 March 2021 14: 23
        +2
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Or something different?

        Other yes
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 10 March 2021 19: 06
          +1
          Quote: Galleon
          Other

          And what then is the "conceptuality" of the article? wink
  • Jarilo
    Jarilo 10 March 2021 11: 45
    0
    And what he shows there - in the photo. At the same time, Yanukovych turned away, and the one on the right was embarrassed.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 March 2021 11: 45
    +2
    And the agreement with Ukraine is sensible and logical
    "An honest treaty with the Indians."

    Better than these words, there is nothing to say. The very essence, clearly, briefly, voluminously, and everything is straight to the eyebrow.
    1. val43
      val43 10 March 2021 13: 12
      0
      Yeah. And not in the eyebrow, but right in the eye. First, give up nuclear weapons, and we will ensure your territorial integrity, then give up Crimea. Here you are right. True, the Naglo-Saxons were out of business ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 March 2021 13: 34
        0
        Quote: val43
        Yeah. And not in the eyebrow, but right in the eye. First, give up nuclear weapons, and we will ensure your territorial integrity, then give up Crimea.

        Well, again, our gelding came from the collective farm stables, with foam on his lips "returned the krymmoskali". Go try and take Crimea away from Russia, or your guts are too thin !!!
        Remember how from the Crimea, without trousers, they fled to Kyev, without firing more than one shot. And now the fingers are fanned out and the belly is beaded after the fight. It's disgusting to listen to you raguley.
        1. val43
          val43 10 March 2021 13: 37
          0
          Is it necessary to be rude?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 10 March 2021 13: 48
            0
            Quote: val43
            Is it necessary to be rude?

            And this is really rudeness, to say how you fled from the Crimea without pants?
  • prior
    prior 10 March 2021 11: 47
    0
    The pre-letter translation of the word "civilized" is "civil".
    The civilized West sounds to us like a developed, educated, cultured ...
    But in fact it is just civil.
    Even in understanding the meaning of the word "civilized" our colonial perception of the West, our servility, alas, sounds.
    He is not civilized (in the sense of developed, educated, cultured), but first of all cannibalistic, deceitful, vile and hypocritical.
    Evidence today - Skripali, Navalny, hacker attack, Boeing MH-17, SP-2, Bandera colonial Ukraine ....... and wars, wars, wars ...
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 10 March 2021 12: 48
      0
      Quote: prior
      The pre-letter translation of the word "civilized" is "civil".

      Not certainly in that way.
      for this, the word "civilized" was used earlier. For example, civilian clothes.
      Accordingly, the word "civilized" acquires a different semantic connotation, close to "brought to a civilized form." That is, an adjective as a result of an action.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 March 2021 13: 37
      0
      Quote: prior
      The civilized West sounds to us like a developed, educated, cultured ...
      And in fact it is just a civilian.

      And in fact, a robber dressed in a jacket and a hat. This is what the Western civilized "people" is.
  • Gato
    Gato 10 March 2021 12: 03
    0
    What's the news? Business sample of the 90s - it also appeared not in an empty place.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 10 March 2021 12: 54
      0
      Quote: Gato
      What's the news?

      That's not news. It's like analytics ...
      1. Gato
        Gato 10 March 2021 16: 15
        0
        type, analytics.

        That's exactly what the type is. It is not very clear hitting specifically on the Hans. They had almost no colonies, so where did the colonial wealth come from? Ukraine was robbed, yes, as many as two times - but they themselves were robbed for reparations and indemnities as many as three times! Well, Ukraine is ruled by the states, not Germany.
        1. Olezhek
          10 March 2021 20: 01
          0
          That's exactly what the type is. It is not very clear hitting specifically the Hans


          And they have the same principle
          Fair trade
          It's just that today Russia trades with Germany more than with Britain and France combined - that's all.
          1. Gato
            Gato 10 March 2021 20: 17
            0
            And they have the same principle
            Fair trade

            Hm .. So, you think that our uh .. businessmen who made money and survived in the 90s, in trade with Germany act as gullible Papuans? Sorry, I don’t believe it.
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 10 March 2021 23: 55
            -3
            Quote: Olezhek
            Fair trade

            And what is she honest about?
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 10 March 2021 23: 59
          0
          Quote: Gato
          Ukraine was robbed, yes, already twice -

          There was never such a country Ukraine, until 1991. And when did the Germans manage to rob this "great power" twice?
  • Baloo
    Baloo 10 March 2021 12: 05
    -1
    And to a typical Ukrainian "question-statement":
    "Well, do the French and Germans live normally?"
    - you can answer very simply: that's why they live normally (and will live!) Because over the centuries they have become accustomed to colonizing people like you.

    "this is where Europeans' persistent hatred of Russia comes from: it did not allow itself to be" colonized "" good
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 March 2021 12: 27
    +2
    And robbing is getting harder and harder. The Chinese have become completely insolent from a colony for whom they have not turned into a hegemon. For me, a revelation, on the market of licensed lathes with $ 19 billion in first place. The USA is 4 or 5. So we have someone. buy. So far we will learn to do ours.
  • iouris
    iouris 10 March 2021 12: 30
    0
    All. The Windsor-Mountbatten-Battenberg home has already been dealt a powerful blow. For Manhattan, Britain will have to be given.
    Black starts and wins. Who hasn't repainted there yet? Hurry! Black is more important.
  • Revival
    Revival 10 March 2021 12: 33
    +1
    "That is, already initially, a certain condition is laid down in the contract, according to which the equipment you paid for will not be delivered to you on a completely legal basis."

    So who makes you sign such an agreement !?
    And, otherwise it does not work ...
    Then why then be indignant, if you knowingly subscribed to It?
    The question then is not for "them" ..
  • Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 10 March 2021 12: 56
    0
    "knowing the wolfish behavior of the German tucked in the contract with which is an empty piece of paper" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNOYtzvYdHg
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 10 March 2021 12: 58
    +3
    And, the eternal ideas of the blonde - we are the center of the world, and everyone envies us and strives to colonize ...

    And there are no servants, a spoon to your mouth, if not a golden daughter ...

    Rosatom can, Rusal can, Nornickel can, titanium kings can., And so on, and so on ... and the uncle interferes with others?
    And the Chinese can, but after all, they have been under sanctions all their lives ...

    As an example, the Mistrals turned up that - who put the French on the grandmother? for breaking the contract?
    For inferior aircraft engines? And how did you laugh at the trampolines?

    Nobody will bring a spoon of gold to their mouths, they will also share technologies for free.

    Or, like Rusnano and K, you screw everything up, all the technologies, etc. - they say a lot of money, the state will give it, or you don’t profuse
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 10 March 2021 13: 04
      0
      The French returned the money for the Mistral, but they did not receive a bun from the United States for the French miracle of the shipyard in the form of orders. And who deceived whom in the end result?
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 10 March 2021 13: 13
        +1
        Quote: tralflot1832
        The French returned the money for the Mistral,

        Money. AHA. No fines, no payments for lost time, no preferences elsewhere. Failure to order - pay a fine. Or lose face - they will continue to throw you.
        And you, as Africa, will forgive all debts. And pay, pay, pay uncle, like Gazprom to Naftogaz, Poland, Germany ...

        Quote: tralflot1832
        a bun from the USA for the French miracle of the shipyard in the form of orders did not receive

        did not hear that they promised. A) this is a state order, the presidents personally explained 2) Yus has its own shipyards. Why are they French.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 10 March 2021 13: 17
          0
          What you have not heard does not mean that there was no such promise. The French at this shipyard churned out cruise ships for the Americans. And where are they. And the American shipyards are imprisoned for the military-industrial complex, this cannot be taken away from them.
          1. Maks1995
            Maks1995 10 March 2021 13: 25
            +1
            Presidents agreed. they apologized ...
            I haven’t heard about the concluded contracts for cruise ships for Yus. Now with the crown, the cruisers generally stop.
            And the Mistrals, which means the shipyard, did not remain idle. Egypt rubs its hands ...
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 10 March 2021 13: 29
              0
              Not because of the good life of the Saint Nazaire shipyard, they wanted to be nationalized in 17 A.D. I did not look at what came of it.
              1. Maks1995
                Maks1995 10 March 2021 13: 48
                0
                This is a departure from the topic to secondary details. Ah, the shipyard, ah, the Polish apples are suffering.

                And the reality is this: they broke off a large state contract, in fact, and did not pay the fine.
                Loss of face and everyone now easily breaks contracts, just a little ... There are no fines, and debts can not be paid if the state is involved ...
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 10 March 2021 14: 00
                  0
                  Have we received the technologies for large sectional assembly of the stern of one of the Mistrals? Have we received them. Let's see how they will be used on the Gulf in Kerch. So everything is fine, but Egypt has supplied helicopters for their Mistrals.
                  1. Maks1995
                    Maks1995 10 March 2021 18: 43
                    0
                    This is a plus. However, this is a slightly different story. How to use what is left.
    2. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 10 March 2021 16: 23
      0
      As an example, the Mistrals turned up that - who put the French on the grandmother? for breaking the contract?
      In fact, they delivered it, and France compensated all the costs of Russia in accordance with the agreement. Russia simply could not demand anything beyond the treaty.
      For inferior aircraft engines?
      The problem with the hot part of aircraft engines was solved 2 years ago, but the flight time of the superjets did not increase at all, moreover, now 90% of the fleet of these aircraft are pinned to the ground due to inadequate maintenance. Why don't you want to bet on the grandmother of the UAC and all those involved?
      Nobody will bring a spoon of gold to their mouths, they will also share technologies for free.
      Come on, while we were friends with the West, I bought a bunch of different technologies and licenses. Not for free, of course, but sold without problems.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 10 March 2021 18: 53
        0
        1) That is, no penalties were prescribed for the breakdown of the contract ... The money was returned, minus inflation, and that's enough from effective managers ...
        Gazprom has something similar ...

        2) That the French engines are now OK - I hear for the first time. That is, the media raids were in vain?
        For "improper service" - in real life, it would be necessary to deliver, but ...
        If you can't shtrakhanut for someone else's mistrals, then your own UAC ??? Elita, Serdyukovs and K.
        One of them has already been protested and further investigated ... So I want to, I don't want to - decide for yourself ...
        And so, the maximum - the Accounts Chamber will scold ...

        3) And that's good. Bought and normal. Siemens recently promoted, only later, the Norwegians almost came out ...
        1. Nestor Vlakhovski
          Nestor Vlakhovski 10 March 2021 20: 34
          0
          1) That is, for the failure of the contract, no penalties were prescribed and there were no
          So the French are not fools to take on unnecessary obligations.
          and enough with effective managers
          The Mistral deal was promoted at the highest level with the participation of heads of state. Who do you want to "ask" from?
          That is, the media raids were in vain?
          The raids were not in vain. But they were resolved 2 years ago, since then there have been no complaints. But there is still a whole heap of other problems that the KLA, unlike the French, is not even going to fix, which is why the lion's share of practically new aircraft is in a joke.
          Siemens recently promoted, already later, the Norwegians almost came out
          Not only engines with turbines, also matrices for optics and thermal imagers, automobile gearboxes, production of processors, ship azipods and a bunch, a bunch of everything.
          1. Maks1995
            Maks1995 11 March 2021 10: 55
            0
            See, everything is fine when not a blonde approach.
            True, this contradicts the article, - she was not lucky)))

            And when they do not prescribe fines for breaking the contract and do not calculate otherwise - out of "friendship" - then they begin to wipe their feet.

            Example - Gazprom and Nafotogaz, (Yukos and others) - before our eyes in the news ...
            1. Nestor Vlakhovski
              Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 11: 12
              0
              You have a strange idea of ​​life and justice.
              France returned all the money + 300 million from above, this is a "blonde approach" and "wiping your feet for friendship" ... I wonder even under what conditions you would like to conclude a contract, and most importantly, there would be a party in this world that would accept your conditions
              Example - Gazprom and Nafotogaz
              Let me remind you that at one time it was Gazprom that was the main initiator of the conclusion of gas contracts in the buy-or-pay format.
              Yukos and others
              yukos is another story altogether. Outright raider seizure of property by the security forces with a full range of gangster methods, under the cover of the state.
              1. Maks1995
                Maks1995 12 March 2021 12: 03
                0
                1) I hear about 300 million for the first time. Everywhere, both the media and Putin voiced only the return of the "consolidated".
                2) Exactly. So he pays for the courts.
                3) Capture is an everyday matter. And what could not be properly formalized and legally furnished - that is why you have to pay. We got used to the fact that everything can be free here, without legal formalization.
                1. Nestor Vlakhovski
                  Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 12: 16
                  0
                  1) Russia has bought 850 million for ships. France returned 1150 million, this cost included a refund, a change in the course, the purchase of a Russian module, compensation for the preparation of infrastructure, crew, equipment. To say that the French somehow deceived the Russians is by no means possible.
                  2) We pay and do it right. You have to pay for stupidity. I remember well how I spoke during the so-called. gas wars, that the refusal of supplies under contracts will give nothing but fines. It could not have been otherwise. But, the local administration prescribed a ban for this position, because in the meantime the putryots rejoiced in unison, believing that the Ukrainians were about to freeze.
                  1. Maks1995
                    Maks1995 12 March 2021 13: 55
                    0
                    1) not a fine, official, but offset.
                    Not that.
                    2) Tse Gazprom. Forge of the state elite. We got used to it for free ...
                    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
                      Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 20: 54
                      0
                      1) not a fine, official, but offset.
                      and you basically need a fine? So that both countries take an extra risk and pay for it out of your pocket?
                      2) Tse Gazprom. Forge of the state elite. We got used to it for free ...
                      Gazprom is the state elite. This state-owned company has always been directly under the top political leadership, Miller practically lives in the Kremlin.
                      1. Maks1995
                        Maks1995 12 March 2021 21: 00
                        0
                        1) Tse Sign. There is no sign, even symbolic - then the loss of face.
                        And the "collective pocket" pays for everything anyway, and there will be even more ...
                        2) Medvedev and Usmanov and ....
                      2. Nestor Vlakhovski
                        Nestor Vlakhovski 12 March 2021 21: 12
                        0
                        I beg your pardon, but somehow you explain yourself in a completely ornate way, I did not understand anything from your words.
                      3. Maks1995
                        Maks1995 15 March 2021 08: 53
                        0
                        1) There is no fine, even a symbolic one - then the loss of face.
                        will be thrown. As an example, many countries already do not repay new debts.
                        2) of the famous there, Medvedev and Usmanov ruled and enriched themselves ...
  • businessv
    businessv 11 March 2021 13: 38
    +1
    Quote: Max1995
    Or, like Rusnano and K, you screw everything up, all the technologies, etc. - they say a lot of money, the state will give it, or you don’t profuse


    Nothing sensible

    in your post

    did not notice, and even

    и

    line spacing,

    as well as the author of the article.
    What did you want to say - besides the golden spoon?
    1. Maks1995
      Maks1995 11 March 2021 14: 04
      +1
      I'll give you a plus sign for your diligence. Thank.
      1. businessv
        businessv 11 March 2021 14: 30
        0
        Quote: Max1995
        I'll give you a plus sign for your diligence. Thank.

        Yes, not for that, thanks for the plus sign, I will answer with the same! To say what they wanted? Interestingly - you are not a beginner on the site! smile
        1. Maks1995
          Maks1995 11 March 2021 16: 03
          0
          1) The article is overdoing it. White people don't particularly want to colonize anyone. For a long time there is NEOCOLONIZATION. But the victims of the exam do not remember her.
          2) you will develop, you will not - it depends more on yourself, and not on your uncle
          3) With line spacing - it's more convenient.
          1. businessv
            businessv 12 March 2021 17: 37
            0
            Quote: Max1995
            The article is overdoing it.

            The idea is clear, thanks! smile
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 10 March 2021 13: 04
    0
    Here, Egorov, you have a huge plus! good
  • ivan2022
    ivan2022 10 March 2021 17: 09
    +2
    Quote: seti
    It's just that in the country, to my great regret, it is not customary to yell at all corners about achievements, but the mud is pouring out all around.

    ORAT should not be about vague "our achievements", but about specific data, such as GDP (PPP) per capita. According to the UN-RF, it usually takes place in the ranking No. 50-53 somewhere near Malaysia or Kazakhstan. In terms of average life expectancy, it does not even fall into the top 100. But the export of capital is one of the most powerful, tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars / year. THE MAIN MOTIVE OF DISPOSAL IS "TIME TO BREAK"

    As for the "mining" - nothing bad ..... except that the companies do not actually belong to Russia. "NORNIKEL" - prev. owls. direct.- Gareth Penny (citizen of Great Britain) And here is our pride - "AVTOVAZ" - 100% owned by Alliance Rostec Auto BV (Holland. joint Renault (67%) and "Rostec") This is something reminiscent of the glorious times of the Russian Empire ... True, then Russia was ruled directly by the Germans, but the place in terms of GDP was about the same. After France, Germany, Great Britain. HERE ABOUT THIS IS REALLY NOT ACCEPTED BY US ..
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 March 2021 17: 12
    0
    There are dependent countries, but colonies in the classical sense simply do not exist. Local law applies everywhere. And a foreigner has no right to kill a person from the local population. Even damage to health can not cause. But in the colonies this was all the rule. I agree with the author. Europe has gotten a lot of riches.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 10 March 2021 21: 34
    +1
    Quote: NEOZ
    Quote: seti
    You just know what - in Germany, at the ARAL branded gas station, I myself have seen more than once how ... Lukoil is poured into BMWs.

    yes, Russia doesn't make BMW like Germany .... but Germany doesn't make fighters DRY like Russia !!!!!! conclusion: Germany colony of the Russian Federation)))))))))

    Su fighters were created in the USSR, and the Russian Federation is only modernizing them. sad
  • Undecim
    Undecim 11 March 2021 00: 23
    0
    The article is a fabulous propaganda delirium. Hamsters with a TV instead of a head go "with a bang!"
  • businessv
    businessv 11 March 2021 12: 54
    +1
    In principle, in the commercial sphere, absolutely the same “rules of the game” apply: a contract for the supply of equipment signed with a German concern is usually not worth the paper on which it is printed.
    In this statement I cannot agree with the author! If a direct contract is concluded with a supplier, it will be fulfilled because if there are restrictions on the supply of this product, the supplier is notified of this in advance and he simply will not undertake delivery obligations! In Germany, even an oral agreement has the force of a signed one, which surprised me when I found out. I understand that we need to strengthen our impression of what we have read, but there is no need to dissemble - not our method (s)! smile Otherwise, I agree with the author, we are just different with them. Moreover, we are a completely self-sufficient nation, so our constant, but imaginary dependence on the West is always surprising. Henceforth, I ask the author not to make huge line spacing - it interferes with reading.
    1. Olezhek
      11 March 2021 17: 17
      +1
      In this statement I cannot agree with the author! If a direct contract is concluded with a supplier, it will be fulfilled because if there are restrictions on the supply of this product, the supplier is notified of this in advance and he simply will not undertake delivery obligations!


      I’ll just keep quiet about the electronics industry - I’m not working there.
      I strongly recommend that you familiarize yourself with the principles of supplying metal-cutting equipment from Germany to Russia.
      Be shocked.
      There is business - no obligations. request

      There is theory, but there is practice ...
      Google our sales of Opel to Sberbank - you will be surprised ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 March 2021 17: 12
    0
    "Well, do the French and Germans live normally?"

    - You can answer very simply: that's why they live normally (and will live!) Because over the centuries they have become accustomed to colonizing people like you ....... These, in their feeble mind, decided that they would be seated at the table? laughing Why send colonial troops when you can buy a Papuan leader with his relatives for beads laughing In 10 years, the children of migrants who are now 5-8 years old, who have grown up in German cities, will not sincerely wonder: "Why do not the infidels in my native land profess Islam? Why do they not live according to Sharia law? Why their women do not wear a veil and in general, on what basis do they demand the fulfillment of some of their rules in my homeland? " and this will be the worst thing, at first isolated enclaves, then their unification and that's it ... Europe will no longer be ... Already now the question of the law enforcement forces to resolve the issue with the immigrant ghettos is no longer realistic, but so far, if there is a will, with the help of it is still possible for the army to drive this herd into a "stall" (universal eviction or total and unconditional assimilation of the most loyal) with minimal losses (being extremely primitive, migrants understand and fear only force), then no longer (in 10-15 years), it will be full-scale wars like Yugoslavia, and Europe will not pull them ...
  • Igor Dvornikov
    Igor Dvornikov 11 March 2021 17: 25
    0
    How did you manage to get around the Ukrainians?
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 12 March 2021 02: 15
    0
    The author is a young man .. At least the crumbs of consciousness, but to wake up the plebs in the consciousness ..
  • Basarev
    Basarev 15 March 2021 11: 21
    0
    Only one thing is bad: Russia has conducted and is conducting an equal exchange with the natives, which is not befitting a great European power. I suspect, if you conclude still the Moscow principality of Ivan III Indian treaties, then we too could become rich. But in our country it has been the other way around for centuries: to drive the Russians into powerlessness and poverty, in order to shower the natives with blessings. Shame and shame.
  • Consul
    Consul 15 March 2021 15: 19
    +15
    Many laughed merrily at the treaty on the "Euroassociation" of Ukraine.

    I still laugh at it laughing
  • Consul
    Consul 15 March 2021 15: 20
    +18
    At the same time, the problems that you will have because of this are only and exclusively your problems, no one will compensate, reimburse or apologize for anything.

    Ordinary capitalism. "Business only. Nothing personal."
  • Consul
    Consul 15 March 2021 15: 22
    +15
    Our beloved "civilized Europeans" have been accustomed to robbing the natives for centuries

    Nothing changed. "Cultured and enlightened Europeans" and today continue to behave like real barbarians.