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"The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

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An interview with the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Economic Development was published in Ukraine. At the same time, the main topic for discussion was the topic of space exploration. People's Deputy Dmitry Natalukha said that "Ukraine has every chance of becoming a space power." At the same time, Natalukha recalled that since 2017, the country has been unable to launch its satellite in any way. We are talking about the satellite "Sich-2-1", which was recently renamed "Sich-2-30", stating that "30 is in honor of the 30th anniversary of Ukraine."


The head of the Ukrainian parliamentary committee said that "there are still problems with funding." To launch the satellite, it is necessary from 8 to 12 million dollars, which Kiev intends to receive from "private investors". At the same time, Natalukha said that the satellite will be multipurpose - to carry out reconnaissance, as well as transmit data for updating the Cadastral map.

Ukrainian journalists asked Natalukha why launch this satellite, if the resolution of its camera is about 7 m, while modern satellites have cameras with a resolution of up to 10 cm.
Natalukha:

Then, that the space industry has discredited itself over the past couple of decades. Prestige must be restored.

To "restore prestige" the deputy proposes to consider the possibility of launching a Ukrainian satellite using Ilona Mask's rocket.

Nardep I LIE:

This can be a second birth for the whole sphere.

It turns out that the space sphere of Ukraine now depends on the mood of the American billionaire ...

In his interview, Dmitry Natalukha said that Ukraine has a plan to create a "low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson." The Rada deputy said that according to the developed project, the cosmodrome could appear next to the Oleshkovsky sands on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions.

Natalukha:

The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean. It will fly over Turkey, but at an altitude of more than 100 km, so this is not even a limitation, but a diplomatic formality that the Foreign Ministry must resolve.

The deputy was asked why Ukraine needs a cosmodrome, which many other countries, including the countries of the so-called Visegrad Four, do not have. To this Natalukha again announced "an increase in prestige and a change in regional status."
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 8 March 2021 10: 38
    +20
    "Doo-rak is getting richer with a dummy -" I don't want to say anything else about their dreams!
    1. frruc
      frruc 8 March 2021 10: 40
      +3
      The Rada deputy said that according to the developed project, the cosmodrome could appear next to the Oleshkovsky sands on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions.


      Another inadequate drew. Environmentalists of the square will have their say.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 8 March 2021 11: 00
        +5
        "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

        Not far are going to fly in Ukraine! But what about space ?! belay
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 8 March 2021 11: 06
          0
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Not far are going to fly in Ukraine! But what about space ?!

          Well, thank God, even to Space.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 9 March 2021 13: 41
            +1
            Yeah. The states of the Mediterranean cannot be envied ...
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 8 March 2021 11: 03
        +35
        Quote: frruc
        Environmentalists of the square will have their say.
        In his words, the rocket will fall (as I understand it, the spent stages of the rocket) into the Mediterranean Sea. That is, the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. It is original, of course: all the satellites (about 20 thousand) are spinning in one direction, and the Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 8 March 2021 13: 05
          +14
          Quote: Bad_gr
          the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. Original

          This is not original, it shows the intellectual level of Ukrainian deputies and the local politicians in general. Instead of following the old adage "shut up, you will pass for the clever", they grind with their tongues incessantly. What is shame and shame, in Ukraine they have completely forgotten. To launch, at any cost (in words), a piece of useless scrap metal with obsolete equipment, they call this "restoring prestige."
          told about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson
          This office will be called "Herkosmos". The joke about Kherson, although old, is more appropriate than ever, applicable to the whole of Ukraine.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 8 March 2021 23: 19
            0
            rocket with a payload of 6 tons (who will say little?) fat !!!!!! - this is the goal of the outskirts .. supply of fat to astronauts in intergalactic expeditions - monopoly !!!!! - this is the greatness of the Ukriya. loaves and rolls are not needed for lard. only lard. dough from NASA will be raked
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 8 March 2021 13: 55
          +6
          Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.

          Aby not a yak among the Muscovites.
        3. Reviews
          Reviews 8 March 2021 16: 48
          +3
          Quote: Bad_gr
          the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. It is original, of course: all the satellites (about 20 thousand) are spinning in one direction, and the Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.

          Judging by the article (flight over Turkey and the fall of the Mediterranean Sea), it turns out not a retrograde orbit, but a polar one.
          And in the opposite direction, Israel launched its satellites.
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 8 March 2021 20: 25
            +1
            Quote: Avis
            Judging by the article (flight over Turkey and the fall of the Mediterranean Sea), it turns out not a retrograde orbit, but a polar one.

            I do not know at what distance the first, second, and third stages of the Ukrainian rocket will fall, but, for example, in our Soyuz-5, the first stage should fall presumably 900 km from the launch site. The distance from Kherson to Istanbul in a straight line is 690 km. The width of Turkey is 550 km. That is, if you run strictly to the south, the steps will fall on Turkey. If you run it through Turkish + Greek territory (against the rotation of the Earth), then the spent stages will fall into the Mediterranean Sea (although they can also fall into the territory of Greece).
            Where am I mistaken?
            1. Reviews
              Reviews 9 March 2021 06: 44
              +1
              Quote: Bad_gr

              Where am I mistaken?

              Where you confuse the polar orbit with the retrograde.
        4. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 8 March 2021 20: 35
          +1
          This is ineffective, you are absolutely right.
          But they are not the only ones who launch this way.
          Israel too.
          The cosmodrome is right on the beach, in the middle of the country. laughing There is no room ...
          Launches - towards the Mediterranean Sea. So that the steps do not fall on
          the territory of neighboring countries.
          Several reconnaissance satellites were launched in this extravagant manner.
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 8 March 2021 23: 00
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It is ineffective
            The speed of rotation of the Earth in the equator is ~ 500m / sec. This is what a rocket launching from the equator gets for free. For comparison, the Zenit launch vehicle from Baikonur is able to launch into a commercial - geo-transfer orbit - 3,8 tons of cargo, and when launched from Sea Launch (close to the equator) - up to 6,2 tons.
            We can recall the Saturn-5 rocket, which is considered the most powerful, since it has put a record cargo into orbit. We can agree with the load, but they are lying about the rocket: our Energia had a thrust of engines at the ground of 3 tf (at Saturn - 582,4), in vacuum 3 (at Saturn - 450 tf). But Baikonur is not on the equator, hence the lower output load, with higher engine power.
            And to launch something in the opposite direction of the Earth's rotation - in general, it turns out tin.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Several reconnaissance satellites were launched in this extravagant manner.
            Probably to low orbits: good for reconnaissance, but they don't live in these orbits for a long time.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 8 March 2021 23: 41
              +2
              Since 1988, there have been 11 launches from Israel.
              9 successes, 2 failures. Shavit-1 and Shavit-2 missiles.
              In orbits 200-300 km of satellites weighing 300 to 800 kg.
              Shavit is a revamped Jericho MRBM with an added 4 stage.
              The rest of the satellites were launched by Russians, Indians, Americans
              from their area, their missiles.
              1. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr 9 March 2021 02: 27
                +1
                Is there any information on how long satellites launched from Israel live?
                An orbit at an altitude of 300 km is often used (it is also the most garbage one), which is not ice at all for a satellite flying against a shorstka.
                PS
                Our very first satellite (launched on October 4, 1957) flew at an altitude of 577 km.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 9 March 2021 02: 41
                  +3
                  Three or four years. These are low-flying scouts.
                  They should fly over the Middle East as often as possible.
                  and take pictures / scan the terrain with a radar.
                  1. Bad_gr
                    Bad_gr 9 March 2021 09: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Three or four years.

                    Clear. Thanks for the information.
          2. Old Man
            Old Man April 2 2021 21: 11
            +1
            not also, their missiles can be deployed in the direction of Suez, in that direction there is no problem. (Let them just try, not only EverGiven will stand across it). Something more or less serious can be launched even from Guiana, even with Musk, but the same India and Russia will only be happy to help. Wallet sizes and purposes vary widely.
            But the deputy's statement looks like an impromptu, from Mr. Manilov, to launch a satellite that no one needs in a complicated way ... The Turks will say for sure - no problem, show your insurance ...
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        6. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 9 March 2021 13: 39
          0
          You did not understand. This is the "meaning" of the Ukrainian space. Ukraine is "independent" and all its satellites, too, are "independent" And the laws of physics, they are not interested.))
        7. Grandfather
          Grandfather 22 May 2021 09: 03
          0
          Will ride on the opposite lane until astronomers stop
      3. figwam
        figwam 8 March 2021 12: 09
        +4
        Quote: frruc
        Another inadequate drew.

        So they will make a safe mortar like this, right after that into space.)))
    2. Bykov.
      Bykov. 8 March 2021 11: 32
      +3
      To whom God will send.
    3. Maz
      Maz 8 March 2021 11: 49
      +2
      That is, it will fly over Greece, Turkey ... poor Greek-Turks
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 8 March 2021 12: 05
      +5
      Natalukha: "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean":

      Natalukha, I don't know about Space, but the Black and Mediterranean Seas ... shuddered with horror belay
      1. Old Man
        Old Man April 2 2021 21: 14
        +1
        especially the captains of various ships in this Mediterranean, of course there are no traffic jams there, but everyone is hanging around there, including refugees
    5. avg
      avg 9 March 2021 11: 53
      +3
      So this is what Erdogan S-400 is for.
  2. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 8 March 2021 10: 38
    +4
    Dreams, dreams where is your sweetness. The Ukrainian government is doing nothing but feeding its people with pseudo-changes.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 March 2021 10: 48
      +4
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Dreams, dreams where your sweetness is.

      If the boats are built on credit, then the rocket will be built in a computer game - "Dunno on the Moon".
      1. Fedor Sokolov
        Fedor Sokolov 8 March 2021 11: 13
        +3
        But fun and perky!
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 8 March 2021 19: 17
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        then the rocket will be built in a computer game - "Dunno on the Moon".
        Previously, the Chinese appeared in jokes about space launches with a slingshot ...
        Well, the flag is in hand for the new conquerors, with its own path (direction of launch) ...
      3. Maikcg
        Maikcg 9 March 2021 01: 20
        0
        Kerbal space program. There are kerbonauts naturally with a similar type - "dementia and courage."
    2. venik
      venik 8 March 2021 11: 13
      +1
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Dreams, dreams where your sweetness is.

      ========
      ".... dreams are gone - the muck remains..."
      PS Fedor! Directly "removed from the tongue"! request
  3. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 8 March 2021 10: 40
    +6
    There was a rumor that the ukronatsiki, desperate to find a piece of bread in the niche ukroterritorii decided to impose racketeering tribute to the family of migrant workers working in Russia))) Ukrainians - be patient. You deserve it.
    1. seti
      seti 8 March 2021 10: 56
      +5
      This is not a rumor, but a very real bill. Who will get life for sure. Everyone who leaves for work on their return will be deprived of 5 to 10% of their income. The fact is that the overwhelming majority travels through fly-by-night firms that will be required to report the approximate income of each individual individual. So he doesn’t loop.
      Whoever works with hired personnel already knows this. But it is unlikely that this piece of trough will get the Nazis - the country's leadership 4-4 is the main racketeer.
  4. Alexga
    Alexga 8 March 2021 10: 40
    +4
    And all the countries of the Mediterranean will be delighted that a Ukrainian launch vehicle can fall on their heads !!!
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 March 2021 11: 02
      +8
      Quote: AlexGa
      carrier rocket

      Do not blame me, but a carrier rocket is an apparatus with missiles on board. Tu-22M3 carrier rocket, "Varshavyanka" carrier rocket, as they carry missiles.
      And the rocket carrying satellites is a booster rocket.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 8 March 2021 12: 08
        +1
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        as they carry missiles.
        And the rocket carrying satellites is a booster rocket.

        I don't know about Ukrainian missiles No. what lads to carry from the project budget will be, I guess yes
      2. Alexga
        Alexga 8 March 2021 16: 37
        +3
        Thanks for the clarification. wink
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      3. Reviews
        Reviews 8 March 2021 16: 50
        +2
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: AlexGa
        carrier rocket

        Do not blame me, but a carrier rocket is an apparatus with missiles on board.

        This is a missile carrier.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 March 2021 18: 18
          -1
          And how does a missile carrier differ from a carrier rocket?
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 8 March 2021 18: 23
            +1
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            And how does a missile carrier differ from a carrier rocket?

            The fact that one is a term, and the other is your speculation.
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 March 2021 18: 29
              -2
              Definition from wiktionary:
              The carrier rocket (military) is the same as the rocket carrier; military aircraft or ship with missile armament as the main one.
              From the dictionary dic.academic.ru
              Rocket carrier (masculine) - a means of delivering and transporting missiles (for example, to the launch site), "the one who carries the missiles."
              Synonyms: missile carrier, missile carrier.
              1. Reviews
                Reviews 8 March 2021 18: 36
                0
                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Definition from wiktionary:

                Funny.
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 March 2021 18: 38
                  -2
                  What exactly do you disagree with? Which definition do you personally think is correct?
                  Doesn't the definition of dic.academic.ru seem funny to you?
                  1. Reviews
                    Reviews 8 March 2021 18: 51
                    0
                    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                    What exactly do you disagree with? Which definition do you personally think is correct?

                    I wrote everything above.
                    Doesn't the definition of dic.academic.ru seem funny to you?

                    Not. I am amused by the opinion of a person who does not know that "dic.academic.ru" has no definitions, because it is not the author and not a dictionary / encyclopedia / etc, but only a site, a collection of such.
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 March 2021 18: 56
                      -2
                      You have not answered me clearly, why do you think that the "carrier rocket" is my speculation? Conjectures of what? Doesn't such a word exist?
                      1. Reviews
                        Reviews 8 March 2021 19: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                        You have not answered me clearly, why do you think that the "carrier rocket" is my speculation?

                        Funny again. The word exists (though not a term), it is not your speculation, but its meaning - they are the most. "The one who carries the missiles" is a missile carrier, not that some are there ... Moreover, they teach others. :) It's funny.
                        Maybe once the word "launch vehicle" had the meaning of "missile carrier", but for more than half a century this has not been the case.

                        RAKETONOSETS - an aircraft or ship designed to transport and launch various types of combat missiles with the aim of destroying ground (surface) objects.
                        Military Aviation Dictionary, Moscow, Voenizdat



                        Military Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1986

                        Well, and so on. Without any "launch vehicles".
                      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 March 2021 19: 46
                        -1
                        I understood. You mean the semantic difference, out of context or connotation. Narrow specialists tend to be picky about terms.
                      3. Reviews
                        Reviews 9 March 2021 08: 41
                        -4
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                        I understood. You mean the semantic difference, out of context or connotation. Narrow specialists tend to be picky about terms.

                        You did not understand anything. But you teach others.
                      4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 March 2021 09: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: Avis
                        You did not understand anything. But you teach others.

                        I just pointed out the obvious difference between a launch vehicle and a launch vehicle.
                        But for some reason you decided to be smart, and as a result, you got into a puddle.
                        I asked you a simple question: what is the difference between a carrier rocket and a rocket carrier?
                        Why can't a missile carrier be called a carrier rocket? Because they didn't write that way in Soviet dictionaries?
                        Have implanted some speculation, an aggregator. There is nothing to answer, so do not show off, but merge on the sly. Nobody cares.
                        In general, I am tired of your demagoguery. I have always been amazed at the tendency of many people to complicate things that are quite simple, but, on the contrary, where they should be a little tense, they prefer not to pay attention.
                      5. Reviews
                        Reviews 9 March 2021 10: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

                        I just pointed out the obvious difference between a launch vehicle and a launch vehicle.

                        ... not knowing the meanings of these words. :) So, about a puddle, this is to the mirror. And about "show off" - too.
                        Why can't a missile carrier be called a carrier rocket?

                        Because "Sidor Amenpodestovich" is an ignoramus, trying to seem smart, but screwing up on it.
  5. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 10 March 2021 10: 49
    0
    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
    And how does a missile carrier differ from a carrier rocket?

    Probably the same as a cuckold from a deer
  • ALS
    ALS 10 March 2021 03: 29
    0
    Generally speaking, the "apparatus with missiles on board" and, for example, the Molot mortar, is already a "missile cruiser"!
  • rocket757
    rocket757 8 March 2021 10: 42
    +4
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

    How's that?
    Will everyone around who live there agree to this?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 March 2021 10: 45
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      How's that?

      It just won't take off.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 8 March 2021 10: 53
        -2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: rocket757
        How's that?

        It just won't take off.

        Why? At the mattresses, "moonwalkers" took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 8 March 2021 11: 03
          -1
          Quote: sabakina
          Why? At the mattresses, "moonwalkers" took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...

          Well, they compared mattress mats with B / HA.
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 8 March 2021 11: 24
          0
          In the Atlantic, who could be against? Sharks?
        3. thinker
          thinker 8 March 2021 12: 30
          +1
          took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...

          The Atlantic is still on East from Houston yes
          The only country to launch satellites against the Earth's rotation

          https://weekend.rambler.ru/read/44082695-edinstvennaya-strana-zapuskayuschaya-sputniki-protiv-vrascheniya-zemli/
        4. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx 8 March 2021 12: 48
          -5
          you current NASA do not talk about it.am They still believe that "American citizens were on the moon."
        5. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 8 March 2021 18: 28
          +2
          We took off from Cape Canaveral. This is Florida. They have a PCO in Houston. In Texas, too, a cosmodrome, only a military one, they fall into the Gulf of Mexico. The private spaceport is being built by Musk.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 8 March 2021 11: 23
        0
        So yes, to declare, it does not mean that they will do ...
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 8 March 2021 10: 46
      +1
      Rosket757 -so, the Turks will pay extra for it lol that is, they will overwhelm with claims, for parts of the carrier falling into their territory, and the upper stage. But, masozism in the blood of Vukrii at the genetic level, they are no stranger to doing everything through the fifth point. ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 March 2021 11: 27
        0
        It looks like they are no stranger to DECLARING! And then .... the skakuasa will jump in joyful ecstasy, and then the grass will not grow!
    3. aszzz888
      aszzz888 8 March 2021 10: 47
      +1

      rocket757 (Victor)
      Today, 10: 42
      NEW
      +1
      "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

      How's that?
      Will everyone around who live there agree to this?
      What about? They will give each one a shovel ... and the cosmodrome is ready! Why should they carry out such projects with a shovel for the first time! wink laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 March 2021 11: 30
        +2
        Oh, yes, they dug the Black Sea ... so at the expense of the Mediterranean, they did not seem to dispose so widely, not their business. That's the question, and their gifts are waiting there ???
        Although, to declare does not mean to marry ... we know this, and gradually it comes to others.
    4. cniza
      cniza 8 March 2021 11: 45
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

      How's that?
      Will everyone around who live there agree to this?


      So they slowly ... lol
      Good time! hi
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 8 March 2021 12: 12
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        So they slowly ...

        Yeah, in one night ... hiding lard wink

        Hi hi
        1. cniza
          cniza 8 March 2021 12: 18
          +2
          Greetings! hi

          Gene, it’s dangerous to trust them with matches ... one thing reassures me that these dreams are unrealizable, they don’t have money to launch their own satellite, and here is a whole cosmodrome ...
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 8 March 2021 13: 03
        +1
        Low, low?
        Anyway, she WILL FALL somewhere! This could just become a precursor point, but ... either the check dies or the donkey dies, everything will happen as usual.
        1. cniza
          cniza 8 March 2021 13: 16
          +3
          To fall, you need to take off, and with this they are not very ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 8 March 2021 14: 19
            +1
            Skakuas will not be told about it ... and the rest can guess themselves.
            1. cniza
              cniza 8 March 2021 15: 34
              +1
              And then don't tell me, they will dream and tell everyone, and then again they will accuse us that we disrupted the space program for them ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 8 March 2021 15: 50
                0
                Bad "dancers" they interfere with everything and everything, and not something that gets confused in their feet ... their own, dear, and they have chosen.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 8 March 2021 16: 21
                  +2
                  Whoever you choose, they are still controlled ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 8 March 2021 18: 47
                    +2
                    Elections, of course, are still that "fun", but they can, they can aggravate!
                    They surrender the country with a whistle, at a "twerk" pace.
    5. Terenin
      Terenin 8 March 2021 12: 10
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

      How's that?
      Will everyone around who live there agree to this?

      And, in their minds winked everywhere, along the course of their missiles, live ancient u.kry yes
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 March 2021 13: 05
        0
        Descendants, as it were .... that's just a problem, the "descendants" do not know this and are unlikely to want to know in the future.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 8 March 2021 10: 45
    -1
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean. She will fly over Turkey

    For Sultan-Erdogan, it will be a great joy.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 8 March 2021 12: 02
      +2
      Well, if it were something real, then Dmitry Natalukha would now sit in Turkey and sign documents on participation in the construction of a cosmodrome near Mogadishu. The Turks are going to invest 350 million in the first place. Agreements on partnership, lease, and expansion of the military presence to protect the facility under construction have already been signed. Instead, the program for the training of government troops is being seriously expanded. Also, Turkish companies and the fleet will build the Somali coast guard. This includes the supply of ships, crew training, the creation of a repair base and support.

      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 8 March 2021 12: 20
        0
        From the point of view of the geography of the cosmodrome, there are no questions, almost an ideal place. But Somalia and the spaceport in one sentence ...
        I was somewhat surprised by this news. However, this is a clear signal that Turkey is strengthening in Africa. The Somali government lies under the Turks as the Libyan did.
        1. Filxnumx
          Filxnumx 8 March 2021 13: 06
          -1
          But Somalia and the spaceport in one sentence ...

          Why not? You see, pirates are retraining as collectors of "heavenly" metal. laughing And there it is not far from the organization of a full-fledged rescue service at the cosmodrome. fellow
          1. Old Man
            Old Man April 2 2021 21: 23
            +1
            I think Turkey, given its not very distant past and quite tangible present, has much more prospects in this matter than Ukraine. And taking into account all kinds of bases of world partners of Turkey itself in Djibouti ...
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 March 2021 10: 45
    +4
    People's Deputy Dmitry Natalukha said that "Ukraine has every chance of becoming a space power."
    Hold me seven! first save the people from diseases, and feed them .... the space owners)) laughing laughing
  • HAM
    HAM 8 March 2021 10: 48
    +1
    Launching against the rotation of the Earth will surely fall on the Turks or Italians ..
    1. SVD68
      SVD68 8 March 2021 10: 53
      +9
      Well, they can't run in the same direction as the Muscovites.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 March 2021 10: 56
      0
      Quote: HAM
      Launching against the rotation of the Earth will surely fall on the Turks or Italians ..

      If it gets there.
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 8 March 2021 10: 57
      +1
      Quote: HAM
      Launching against the rotation of the Earth will surely fall on the Turks or Italians ..

      So they will run at night. The Earth does not rotate at night. laughing
  • sabakina
    sabakina 8 March 2021 10: 49
    +2
    that Ukraine has a plan to create "Low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson».
    Something new in astronautics. recourse
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 8 March 2021 12: 15
      +2
      Quote: sabakina
      that Ukraine has a plan to create «low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson».
      Something new in astronautics. recourse

      Reminds - low-grade ... what
  • stels_07
    stels_07 8 March 2021 10: 53
    +1
    Ukraine, missiles, fall-NATO tensed
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 8 March 2021 10: 55
    +2
    Thank you Natalukha! Although it made me laugh, the clown lifted my spirits, otherwise I sit and think to which of the ladies to buy flowers, to which candies for March 8th. And now the mood is lifted, I will buy all my ladies a rose. Happy March 8 to all the ladies present on the VO website !!!
    1. Clear
      Clear 8 March 2021 12: 18
      +2
      Quote: tihonmarine
      I think which of the ladies will buy flowers, to whom sweets for March 8. And now the mood is lifted, I will buy all my ladies a rose.

      Well done, Vlad! love
      And running, for flowers, as they say ... from a low start!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 March 2021 12: 49
        +1
        Quote: Clear
        And running, for flowers, as they say ... from a low start!

        All OK. Already ran and congratulated. And after work a "small" banquet is invited.
        Happy March 8! Health and good luck.
        1. Clear
          Clear 8 March 2021 19: 09
          +3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Happy March 8! Health and good luck.

          Thank you very much love
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 March 2021 10: 56
    +2
    And here is what Kravchuk said on this topic.

    Briefly and clearly, but here is what foreign comrades think about this:
  • APASUS
    APASUS 8 March 2021 10: 56
    +2
    As far as I understand, these texts are written by speechwriters from Washington. Just 100% coincidence in some of the texts, if there are no victories, then they can be thought of! And for one thing to distract the population from hard everyday life, to give some confidence and pride in the state. But while one part of the population spreads rot on the other, nothing will be built in the country, where did the Nazis build a successful state?
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 8 March 2021 10: 57
    +1
    All this "will take off" and "but fall" is more like a threat in the hope that, frightened, some country will buy up the remnants of the Ukrainian space industry, so that nothing takes off from there, let alone falls ...
  • maykl8
    maykl8 8 March 2021 11: 00
    +2
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

    Amazing !!! Moreover, the launch will not be like everyone else's "To the East", but "To the South". So still over Turkey and most importantly OVER THE CRIMEA !!! After all, Crimea is located between the Kherson region and Turkey. It looks like there will be a provocation "a la" the Kerch Strait. For this "good" deed, the rocket will be found and given to morons for free.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 March 2021 12: 52
      -2
      Quote: maykl8
      So still over Turkey and most importantly OVER THE CRIMEA !!! After all, Crimea is located between the Kherson region and Turkey.

      Russian air defenses will put their "creation" into the water (which will never take place).
    2. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 8 March 2021 13: 27
      -2
      the rocket will be found and given to morons for free.

      They will once again be given a meal through the hole, and not a rocket launched over the territory of a NATO country. And the letter to the Sultan will be remembered.
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 8 March 2021 11: 09
    +1
    New Vasyuki ...
  • Shkworen
    Shkworen 8 March 2021 11: 12
    0
    oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers (s) m / f "Last year's snow was falling" :)
  • svp67
    svp67 8 March 2021 11: 14
    +1
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
    I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 8 March 2021 11: 27
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
      I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?

      And what is the probability that falling this step will not hit a flying passenger plane? Or a ship or a passenger yacht? Even in Russia, it is difficult to select launch routes so that they do not cross transport corridors. How many tons that have fallen on your head will not add optimism to anyone.
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 8 March 2021 11: 36
        -1
        They took part in the Sea Launch project. But this has sunk into oblivion:

        "The Sea Launch Company was created to implement the project of the same name in 1995. [2] Its founders were Boeing, the Russian RSC Energia, the Norwegian shipbuilding company Kvaerner (now Aker Solutions), the Ukrainian KB Yuzhnoye and PO Yuzhmash. In the summer of 2009, the Sea Launch company declared its bankruptcy, and after the reorganization, RSC Energia took the leading role in the project. "
      2. svp67
        svp67 8 March 2021 11: 50
        0
        Quote: Cube123
        And what is the probability that falling this step will not hit a flying passenger plane? Or a ship or a passenger yacht?

        Yes, not any. That the same thing may not go according to plan. For this, the possible area of ​​the fall of the LV debris is declared closed, which means who will have to change their usual routes, incur financial losses ...
    2. Gato
      Gato 8 March 2021 11: 50
      +1
      I wonder how serious they are?

      Not at all. First, you need to lay a hyperloop to the cosmodrome. What are the cosmodromes to the devil if there is nothing to pay interest on loans with? Ukraine's external debt is about $ 95 billion
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 March 2021 12: 53
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      I wonder how serious they are?

      So chatting, not going to the toilet, walking without leggings.
    4. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 8 March 2021 18: 32
      0
      Everyone understands this very well, therefore, a one hundred percent incredible option was chosen.
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 8 March 2021 11: 21
    0
    Think big!
    Interplanetary chess tournament ....
  • Der Spiegel
    Der Spiegel 8 March 2021 11: 28
    +3
    They should raise pensions for the people, think about the elderly, about children, the level of education is at zero, the level of medicine is below the baseboard, corruption is rampant. And they were going to build a cosmodrome. "Cosmonauts", what can I say ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 March 2021 11: 31
    -1
    "Sich-2-1", which was recently renamed "Sich-2-30"
    The main thing is to rename in time what has not yet been launched into space, and then you look and Musk will catch up, Turkey will give money so that "Ukrainian" rockets (satellites) do not fall on its head, and few of the "friends" will help. They live in dreams and will die with the dream that Russia is about to fall apart.
  • cniza
    cniza 8 March 2021 11: 37
    +1
    To this Natalukha again announced "an increase in prestige and a change in regional status."


    Natalukha, he is Natalukha in Africa, you can't let them play with matches, burn someone ...
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 8 March 2021 11: 37
    +1
    Ukraine has a plan to create a "low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson"
    If taken literally, the cosmodrome will be in space in a low orbit, but near Kherson. That is, Kherson is even higher. The grandeur of the plans is striking.
  • beeper
    beeper 8 March 2021 11: 38
    0
    Well, yes, another "peremog" (after all, the previous mega-cost "space project" - "Sea Launch" was "safely sawn" and missed ... poh ... buried!) - now for "Oleshkovskie Peski", for the adjacent Kherson and Nikolaev lands of the local population, under the pretext of "building a cosmodrome", "Ukrainian" compradors - "w / Bandera" decided to take - "take away and divide (among themselves, for resale to their overseas owners!)" ??! negative
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 8 March 2021 11: 39
    +1
    Unviable child! Commercially not profitable ... The main commercial launches on the rotation of the earth are so cheaper. In general, only the military and weathermen are launched into polar orbits, or I don't understand something?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 March 2021 11: 44
    0
    With Musk, no matter how, you must first get on with NASA, and they raised the price for commercial cargo from $ 3000 per 1 kg to orbit, to $ 20000 per 1 kg there, and to lower from orbit to $ 40000 per kg, why would that be?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 8 March 2021 12: 15
      +2
      You can negotiate with anyone. Now for small countries with a small space load expanse.

      You can go to Kucheryakha. He can already send cubsat even to Venus (the first private mission, on a private rocket from Rocketlab in 23). At 550 km, you can throw an already serious satellite and for only $ 8 million. And how the reuse will make it even cheaper. And in 24 there will be an 8-ton rocket.


      Fireflies are flying very soon. And there is also the Texan-Dnipropetrovsk Ukrainians rule if that. This is a ton-class rocket.


      In 22, Teran1 will appear - the first rocket produced on a robotic line, using the printing method, with the world's first methane engines, which were originally designed for 3D printing and assembly operations on a robotic line.


      You can ask for a minibus to the Indians. Small but reliable. Well, or buy a VIP seat and go like a king for 45 million.


      This I also missed the Korean Nuri, the overpriced Europeans, the Branson system, as well as all the Chinese - because here the owner can prohibit.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 8 March 2021 12: 36
        +1
        Duc is for money, so any "smart" can, but for free there is nothing in space?
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 8 March 2021 11: 49
    +2
    How is a spuknik in honor of the 30th anniversary of Ukraine? But what about the ancient xoxlossumery? Tse zrada splendid! Banderzianki, as you zpiymaete svogo people's deputy - on the count of his ohalnik !!!! laughing laughing laughing
  • Growlers
    Growlers 8 March 2021 12: 08
    +3
    Get ready Europe and the Middle East! The key word is to fall!
  • dgonni
    dgonni 8 March 2021 12: 58
    0
    Nonsense of a dilettante dropout. Although the clown is all like that
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 8 March 2021 13: 22
    0
    How strongly the Yatsenyuk fence smelled.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 8 March 2021 13: 22
    +1
    I think the Turks will be very happy that a tank with heptyl can blurt out on their heads wassat
  • slipped
    slipped 8 March 2021 13: 41
    +4
    The photo in the title shows the second stage of the last Zenit-2 rocket to launch their Russian-made Lebed satellite, funded by the Canadian MDA. Now you can successfully forget about this medium.

    Meanwhile, the Samara RCC "Progress" welded the first forecastle for dynamic tests together with the engine for the domestic rocket "Soyuz-5", which is going to replace the "Zenith-2"

  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 March 2021 13: 59
    0
    laughing The main thing is not that the air defense of the Moe of Russia "accidentally" is not shot down. " laughing and fall into the Mediterranean "straight Greek in the head with a spent stage with fuel laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 March 2021 14: 06
    0
    Quote: Bad_gr
    Quote: frruc
    Environmentalists of the square will have their say.
    In his words, the rocket will fall (as I understand it, the spent stages of the rocket) into the Mediterranean Sea. That is, the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. It is original, of course: all the satellites (about 20 thousand) are spinning in one direction, and the Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.

    The laws of physics are not familiar to them laughing
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 8 March 2021 14: 18
    0
    Dreams, dreams ... What is your sweetness? You loved space in 2014 ...
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 8 March 2021 15: 16
    0
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson
    Eh-I-I-I. Europeans only lacked "green", deeply free, independent heptyl to receive Sumeria into the fraternal family of nations. fool
  • Old26
    Old26 8 March 2021 15: 55
    +4
    Quote: sabakina
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: rocket757
    How's that?

    It just won't take off.

    Why? At the mattresses, "moonwalkers" took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...

    With what dampness did something take off from Houston for the Americans?

    Quote: maykl8
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

    Amazing !!! Moreover, the launch will not be like everyone else's "To the East", but "To the South". So still over Turkey and most importantly OVER THE CRIMEA !!! After all, Crimea is located between the Kherson region and Turkey. It looks like there will be a provocation "a la" the Kerch Strait. For this "good" deed, the rocket will be found and given to morons for free.

    Not all and not always launch "right to the east". This is only at the equator at zero inclination of the orbit. The rest run either to the northeast or to the southeast. At one time, according to rumors, we even planned the construction of a cosmodrome somewhere in the Taimyr or Yamal region with a launch direction "to the south." Now from the Israeli spaceport Palmachim launches are carried out in the direction "to the west" (so this is not unusual)

    Further. Over Turkey, yes, the trajectory can really pass, but over Crimea... Sorry, but your knowledge of geography - just surprise... How the trajectory can pass over the Crimea if the step falls in the Mediterranean


    Quote: svp67
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
    I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?

    It's hard to say, Sergei! Israel is launching in a westerly direction. Of course, trails are possible, but usually a NOTAM is issued to close a certain zone. True, I don't think that the Mediterranean countries will be happy with such Ukrainian launches ...

    Quote: Cube123
    Quote: svp67
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
    I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?

    And what is the probability that falling this step will not hit a flying passenger plane? Or a ship or a passenger yacht? Even in Russia, it is difficult to select launch routes so that they do not cross transport corridors. How many tons that have fallen on your head will not add optimism to anyone.

    The probability is almost zero, if everything is done according to the mind. A notice is issued about the closure of a certain zone for aircraft and ships for a certain period of time. And launch routes always cross transport corridors. And all this is decided
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 March 2021 17: 09
    0
    what Such articles should be placed in the "humor" section. It is a pity that there is no such section.
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 8 March 2021 17: 16
    0
    In Ukraine, they decided to "master space" - a limit has already been selected at the "big construction site" ??? Before the "departure" of Gnusaviy (V. Zelensky), the retinue of Gnusaviy needs to "master" as much $ as possible - that's the whole "trick" ...
  • NF68
    NF68 8 March 2021 17: 36
    0
    Spring tour of the Kiev circus.
  • Old26
    Old26 8 March 2021 22: 04
    +2
    Quote: Bad_gr
    Quote: Avis
    Judging by the article (flight over Turkey and the fall of the Mediterranean Sea), it turns out not a retrograde orbit, but a polar one.

    I do not know at what distance the first, second, and third stages of the Ukrainian rocket will fall, but, for example, in our Soyuz-5, the first stage should fall presumably 900 km from the launch site. The distance from Kherson to Istanbul in a straight line is 690 km. The width of Turkey is 550 km. That is, if you run strictly to the south, the steps will fall on Turkey. If you run it through Turkish + Greek territory (against the rotation of the Earth), then the spent stages will fall into the Mediterranean Sea (although they can also fall into the territory of Greece).
    Where am I mistaken?

    It is unlikely that we are talking about some kind of three-stage missiles. Most likely these will be carriers based on the old Soviet R-12, R-14. They even developed a line of such rockets, EMNIP was called "Mayak" Cyclogram to find at least carriers of the "Cosmos" type, then one could say at what distance the first fall field of the steps will be and at what
  • Oleg Shlyapin
    Oleg Shlyapin 8 March 2021 22: 16
    0
    In general, the price of launching the Sich-2-30 satellite on the Falcon-9 rocket will be $ 1 million. Launch scheduled for December 2021
    1. flint
      flint 11 March 2021 11: 18
      0
      Near-earth space is already littered with space debris, why is there another 170 kg of unnecessary debris? It would be better if this million would be spent on subsidies to citizens to pay for housing and communal services.
    2. Old Man
      Old Man April 2 2021 21: 41
      +1
      on that and uzbagoyatsya, from time to time they will throw a couple of dozen in numbering. Zelo will be cheaper than paying for the maintenance of the people's deputy.
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  • mu1972
    mu1972 8 March 2021 22: 50
    0
    litaki will fly! bombs will be bombed !!! and then there are the fellows to fly! ukrorebyata give us a break !!! and then laugh for the seventh year in a row !!
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 9 March 2021 02: 16
    0
    A sick country gives rise to abnormal people with inadequate thinking ..
  • Potomac
    Potomac 9 March 2021 12: 08
    -1
    Oleshkovsky sands and the border of Kherson and Nikolaev regions, these are two different directions. And the cosmodrome is being built in general in the third place.
  • K-50
    K-50 9 March 2021 13: 46
    0
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.

    Considering the ship traffic in Mediterranean, many will not like it if rockets suddenly fall on them, if of course it even comes to that. You may or may not expect everything from the skakuas. fellow lol
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 9 March 2021 13: 49
    0
    God is with him with their mriyas. Is that why the block is not signed in Russian? laughing Where is the SBU looking?
  • svoit
    svoit 9 March 2021 13: 49
    0
    Quote: Bad_gr
    , of course: all satellites (about 20 thousand) rotate in one direction, and Ukrainian in the opposite direction

    And why not, in terms of the withdrawn cargo, this method will be no worse than our Plesetsk, the southern location will compensate for the unfavorable direction