"The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

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An interview with the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Economic Development was published in Ukraine. At the same time, the main topic for discussion was the topic of space exploration. People's Deputy Dmitry Natalukha said that "Ukraine has every chance of becoming a space power." At the same time, Natalukha recalled that since 2017, the country has been unable to launch its satellite in any way. We are talking about the satellite "Sich-2-1", which was recently renamed "Sich-2-30", stating that "30 is in honor of the 30th anniversary of Ukraine."

The head of the Ukrainian parliamentary committee said that "there are still problems with funding." To launch the satellite, it is necessary from 8 to 12 million dollars, which Kiev intends to receive from "private investors". At the same time, Natalukha said that the satellite will be multipurpose - to carry out reconnaissance, as well as transmit data for updating the Cadastral map.



Ukrainian journalists asked Natalukha why launch this satellite, if the resolution of its camera is about 7 m, while modern satellites have cameras with a resolution of up to 10 cm.
Natalukha:

Then, that the space industry has discredited itself over the past couple of decades. Prestige must be restored.

To "restore prestige" the deputy proposes to consider the possibility of launching a Ukrainian satellite using Ilona Mask's rocket.

Nardep I LIE:

This can be a second birth for the whole sphere.

It turns out that the space sphere of Ukraine now depends on the mood of the American billionaire ...

In his interview, Dmitry Natalukha said that Ukraine has a plan to create a "low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson." The Rada deputy said that according to the developed project, the cosmodrome could appear next to the Oleshkovsky sands on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions.

Natalukha:

The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean. It will fly over Turkey, but at an altitude of more than 100 km, so this is not even a limitation, but a diplomatic formality that the Foreign Ministry must resolve.

The deputy was asked why Ukraine needs a cosmodrome, which many other countries, including the countries of the so-called Visegrad Four, do not have. To this Natalukha again announced "an increase in prestige and a change in regional status."
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  1. +20
    8 March 2021 10: 38
    "Doo-rak is getting richer with a dummy -" I don't want to say anything else about their dreams!
    1. +3
      8 March 2021 10: 40
      The Rada deputy said that according to the developed project, the cosmodrome could appear next to the Oleshkovsky sands on the border of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions.


      Another inadequate drew. Environmentalists of the square will have their say.
      1. +5
        8 March 2021 11: 00
        "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

        Not far are going to fly in Ukraine! But what about space ?! belay
        1. 0
          8 March 2021 11: 06
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Not far are going to fly in Ukraine! But what about space ?!

          Well, thank God, even to Space.
          1. +1
            9 March 2021 13: 41
            Yeah. The states of the Mediterranean cannot be envied ...
      2. +35
        8 March 2021 11: 03
        Quote: frruc
        Environmentalists of the square will have their say.
        In his words, the rocket will fall (as I understand it, the spent stages of the rocket) into the Mediterranean Sea. That is, the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. It is original, of course: all the satellites (about 20 thousand) are spinning in one direction, and the Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.
        1. +14
          8 March 2021 13: 05
          Quote: Bad_gr
          the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. Original

          This is not original, it shows the intellectual level of Ukrainian deputies and the local politicians in general. Instead of following the old adage "shut up, you will pass for the clever", they grind with their tongues incessantly. What is shame and shame, in Ukraine they have completely forgotten. To launch, at any cost (in words), a piece of useless scrap metal with obsolete equipment, they call this "restoring prestige."
          told about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson
          This office will be called "Herkosmos". The joke about Kherson, although old, is more appropriate than ever, applicable to the whole of Ukraine.
          1. 0
            8 March 2021 23: 19
            rocket with a payload of 6 tons (who will say little?) fat !!!!!! - this is the goal of the outskirts .. supply of fat to astronauts in intergalactic expeditions - monopoly !!!!! - this is the greatness of the Ukriya. loaves and rolls are not needed for lard. only lard. dough from NASA will be raked
        2. +6
          8 March 2021 13: 55
          Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.

          Aby not a yak among the Muscovites.
        3. +3
          8 March 2021 16: 48
          Quote: Bad_gr
          the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. It is original, of course: all the satellites (about 20 thousand) are spinning in one direction, and the Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.

          Judging by the article (flight over Turkey and the fall of the Mediterranean Sea), it turns out not a retrograde orbit, but a polar one.
          And in the opposite direction, Israel launched its satellites.
          1. +1
            8 March 2021 20: 25
            Quote: Avis
            Judging by the article (flight over Turkey and the fall of the Mediterranean Sea), it turns out not a retrograde orbit, but a polar one.

            I do not know at what distance the first, second, and third stages of the Ukrainian rocket will fall, but, for example, in our Soyuz-5, the first stage should fall presumably 900 km from the launch site. The distance from Kherson to Istanbul in a straight line is 690 km. The width of Turkey is 550 km. That is, if you run strictly to the south, the steps will fall on Turkey. If you run it through Turkish + Greek territory (against the rotation of the Earth), then the spent stages will fall into the Mediterranean Sea (although they can also fall into the territory of Greece).
            Where am I mistaken?
            1. +1
              9 March 2021 06: 44
              Quote: Bad_gr

              Where am I mistaken?

              Where you confuse the polar orbit with the retrograde.
        4. +1
          8 March 2021 20: 35
          This is ineffective, you are absolutely right.
          But they are not the only ones who launch this way.
          Israel too.
          The cosmodrome is right on the beach, in the middle of the country. laughing There is no room ...
          Launches - towards the Mediterranean Sea. So that the steps do not fall on
          the territory of neighboring countries.
          Several reconnaissance satellites were launched in this extravagant manner.
          1. +3
            8 March 2021 23: 00
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It is ineffective
            The speed of rotation of the Earth in the equator is ~ 500m / sec. This is what a rocket launching from the equator gets for free. For comparison, the Zenit launch vehicle from Baikonur is able to launch into a commercial - geo-transfer orbit - 3,8 tons of cargo, and when launched from Sea Launch (close to the equator) - up to 6,2 tons.
            We can recall the Saturn-5 rocket, which is considered the most powerful, since it has put a record cargo into orbit. We can agree with the load, but they are lying about the rocket: our Energia had a thrust of engines at the ground of 3 tf (at Saturn - 582,4), in vacuum 3 (at Saturn - 450 tf). But Baikonur is not on the equator, hence the lower output load, with higher engine power.
            And to launch something in the opposite direction of the Earth's rotation - in general, it turns out tin.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Several reconnaissance satellites were launched in this extravagant manner.
            Probably to low orbits: good for reconnaissance, but they don't live in these orbits for a long time.
            1. +2
              8 March 2021 23: 41
              Since 1988, there have been 11 launches from Israel.
              9 successes, 2 failures. Shavit-1 and Shavit-2 missiles.
              In orbits 200-300 km of satellites weighing 300 to 800 kg.
              Shavit is a revamped Jericho MRBM with an added 4 stage.
              The rest of the satellites were launched by Russians, Indians, Americans
              from their area, their missiles.
              1. +1
                9 March 2021 02: 27
                Is there any information on how long satellites launched from Israel live?
                An orbit at an altitude of 300 km is often used (it is also the most garbage one), which is not ice at all for a satellite flying against a shorstka.
                PS
                Our very first satellite (launched on October 4, 1957) flew at an altitude of 577 km.
                1. +3
                  9 March 2021 02: 41
                  Three or four years. These are low-flying scouts.
                  They should fly over the Middle East as often as possible.
                  and take pictures / scan the terrain with a radar.
                  1. +1
                    9 March 2021 09: 43
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Three or four years.

                    Clear. Thanks for the information.
          2. +1
            April 2 2021 21: 11
            not also, their missiles can be deployed in the direction of Suez, in that direction there is no problem. (Let them just try, not only EverGiven will stand across it). Something more or less serious can be launched even from Guiana, even with Musk, but the same India and Russia will only be happy to help. Wallet sizes and purposes vary widely.
            But the deputy's statement looks like an impromptu, from Mr. Manilov, to launch a satellite that no one needs in a complicated way ... The Turks will say for sure - no problem, show your insurance ...
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        6. 0
          9 March 2021 13: 39
          You did not understand. This is the "meaning" of the Ukrainian space. Ukraine is "independent" and all its satellites, too, are "independent" And the laws of physics, they are not interested.))
        7. 0
          22 May 2021 09: 03
          Will ride on the opposite lane until astronomers stop
      3. +4
        8 March 2021 12: 09
        Quote: frruc
        Another inadequate drew.

        So they will make a safe mortar like this, right after that into space.)))
    2. +3
      8 March 2021 11: 32
      To whom God will send.
    3. Maz
      +2
      8 March 2021 11: 49
      That is, it will fly over Greece, Turkey ... poor Greek-Turks
    4. +5
      8 March 2021 12: 05
      Natalukha: "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean":

      Natalukha, I don't know about Space, but the Black and Mediterranean Seas ... shuddered with horror belay
      1. +1
        April 2 2021 21: 14
        especially the captains of various ships in this Mediterranean, of course there are no traffic jams there, but everyone is hanging around there, including refugees
    5. avg
      +3
      9 March 2021 11: 53
      So this is what Erdogan S-400 is for.
  2. +4
    8 March 2021 10: 38
    Dreams, dreams where is your sweetness. The Ukrainian government is doing nothing but feeding its people with pseudo-changes.
    1. +4
      8 March 2021 10: 48
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Dreams, dreams where your sweetness is.

      If the boats are built on credit, then the rocket will be built in a computer game - "Dunno on the Moon".
      1. +3
        8 March 2021 11: 13
        But fun and perky!
      2. 0
        8 March 2021 19: 17
        Quote: tihonmarine
        then the rocket will be built in a computer game - "Dunno on the Moon".
        Previously, the Chinese appeared in jokes about space launches with a slingshot ...
        Well, the flag is in hand for the new conquerors, with its own path (direction of launch) ...
      3. 0
        9 March 2021 01: 20
        Kerbal space program. There are kerbonauts naturally with a similar type - "dementia and courage."
    2. +1
      8 March 2021 11: 13
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      Dreams, dreams where your sweetness is.

      ========
      ".... dreams are gone - the muck remains..."
      PS Fedor! Directly "removed from the tongue"! request
  3. +6
    8 March 2021 10: 40
    There was a rumor that the ukronatsiki, desperate to find a piece of bread in the niche ukroterritorii decided to impose racketeering tribute to the family of migrant workers working in Russia))) Ukrainians - be patient. You deserve it.
    1. +5
      8 March 2021 10: 56
      This is not a rumor, but a very real bill. Who will get life for sure. Everyone who leaves for work on their return will be deprived of 5 to 10% of their income. The fact is that the overwhelming majority travels through fly-by-night firms that will be required to report the approximate income of each individual individual. So he doesn’t loop.
      Whoever works with hired personnel already knows this. But it is unlikely that this piece of trough will get the Nazis - the country's leadership 4-4 is the main racketeer.
  4. +4
    8 March 2021 10: 40
    And all the countries of the Mediterranean will be delighted that a Ukrainian launch vehicle can fall on their heads !!!
    1. +8
      8 March 2021 11: 02
      Quote: AlexGa
      carrier rocket

      Do not blame me, but a carrier rocket is an apparatus with missiles on board. Tu-22M3 carrier rocket, "Varshavyanka" carrier rocket, as they carry missiles.
      And the rocket carrying satellites is a booster rocket.
      1. +1
        8 March 2021 12: 08
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        as they carry missiles.
        And the rocket carrying satellites is a booster rocket.

        I don't know about Ukrainian missiles No. what lads to carry from the project budget will be, I guess Yes
      2. +3
        8 March 2021 16: 37
        Thanks for the clarification. wink
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      3. +2
        8 March 2021 16: 50
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: AlexGa
        carrier rocket

        Do not blame me, but a carrier rocket is an apparatus with missiles on board.

        This is a missile carrier.
        1. -1
          8 March 2021 18: 18
          And how does a missile carrier differ from a carrier rocket?
          1. +1
            8 March 2021 18: 23
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            And how does a missile carrier differ from a carrier rocket?

            The fact that one is a term, and the other is your speculation.
            1. -2
              8 March 2021 18: 29
              Definition from wiktionary:
              The carrier rocket (military) is the same as the rocket carrier; military aircraft or ship with missile armament as the main one.
              From the dictionary dic.academic.ru
              Rocket carrier (masculine) - a means of delivering and transporting missiles (for example, to the launch site), "the one who carries the missiles."
              Synonyms: missile carrier, missile carrier.
              1. 0
                8 March 2021 18: 36
                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Definition from wiktionary:

                Funny.
                1. -2
                  8 March 2021 18: 38
                  What exactly do you disagree with? Which definition do you personally think is correct?
                  Doesn't the definition of dic.academic.ru seem funny to you?
                  1. 0
                    8 March 2021 18: 51
                    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                    What exactly do you disagree with? Which definition do you personally think is correct?

                    I wrote everything above.
                    Doesn't the definition of dic.academic.ru seem funny to you?

                    Not. I am amused by the opinion of a person who does not know that "dic.academic.ru" has no definitions, because it is not the author and not a dictionary / encyclopedia / etc, but only a site, a collection of such.
                    1. -2
                      8 March 2021 18: 56
                      You have not answered me clearly, why do you think that the "carrier rocket" is my speculation? Conjectures of what? Doesn't such a word exist?
                      1. -1
                        8 March 2021 19: 20
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                        You have not answered me clearly, why do you think that the "carrier rocket" is my speculation?

                        Funny again. The word exists (though not a term), it is not your speculation, but its meaning - they are the most. "The one who carries the missiles" is a missile carrier, not that some are there ... Moreover, they teach others. :) It's funny.
                        Maybe once the word "launch vehicle" had the meaning of "missile carrier", but for more than half a century this has not been the case.

                        RAKETONOSETS - an aircraft or ship designed to transport and launch various types of combat missiles with the aim of destroying ground (surface) objects.
                        Military Aviation Dictionary, Moscow, Voenizdat



                        Military Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1986

                        Well, and so on. Without any "launch vehicles".
                      2. -1
                        8 March 2021 19: 46
                        I understood. You mean the semantic difference, out of context or connotation. Narrow specialists tend to be picky about terms.
                      3. -4
                        9 March 2021 08: 41
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                        I understood. You mean the semantic difference, out of context or connotation. Narrow specialists tend to be picky about terms.

                        You did not understand anything. But you teach others.
                      4. +1
                        9 March 2021 09: 35
                        Quote: Avis
                        You did not understand anything. But you teach others.

                        I just pointed out the obvious difference between a launch vehicle and a launch vehicle.
                        But for some reason you decided to be smart, and as a result, you got into a puddle.
                        I asked you a simple question: what is the difference between a carrier rocket and a rocket carrier?
                        Why can't a missile carrier be called a carrier rocket? Because they didn't write that way in Soviet dictionaries?
                        Have implanted some speculation, an aggregator. There is nothing to answer, so do not show off, but merge on the sly. Nobody cares.
                        In general, I am tired of your demagoguery. I have always been amazed at the tendency of many people to complicate things that are quite simple, but, on the contrary, where they should be a little tense, they prefer not to pay attention.
                      5. -1
                        9 March 2021 10: 44
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

                        I just pointed out the obvious difference between a launch vehicle and a launch vehicle.

                        ... not knowing the meanings of these words. :) So, about a puddle, this is to the mirror. And about "show off" - too.
                        Why can't a missile carrier be called a carrier rocket?

                        Because "Sidor Amenpodestovich" is an ignoramus, trying to seem smart, but screwing up on it.
          2. 0
            10 March 2021 10: 49
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            And how does a missile carrier differ from a carrier rocket?

            Probably the same as a cuckold from a deer
        2. ALS
          0
          10 March 2021 03: 29
          Generally speaking, the "apparatus with missiles on board" and, for example, the Molot mortar, is already a "missile cruiser"!
  5. +4
    8 March 2021 10: 42
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

    How's that?
    Will everyone around who live there agree to this?
    1. 0
      8 March 2021 10: 45
      Quote: rocket757
      How's that?

      It just won't take off.
      1. -2
        8 March 2021 10: 53
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: rocket757
        How's that?

        It just won't take off.

        Why? At the mattresses, "moonwalkers" took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...
        1. -1
          8 March 2021 11: 03
          Quote: sabakina
          Why? At the mattresses, "moonwalkers" took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...

          Well, they compared mattress mats with B / HA.
        2. 0
          8 March 2021 11: 24
          In the Atlantic, who could be against? Sharks?
        3. +1
          8 March 2021 12: 30
          took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...

          The Atlantic is still on East from Houston Yes
          The only country to launch satellites against the Earth's rotation

          https://weekend.rambler.ru/read/44082695-edinstvennaya-strana-zapuskayuschaya-sputniki-protiv-vrascheniya-zemli/
        4. -5
          8 March 2021 12: 48
          you current NASA do not talk about it.am They still believe that "American citizens were on the moon."
        5. +2
          8 March 2021 18: 28
          We took off from Cape Canaveral. This is Florida. They have a PCO in Houston. In Texas, too, a cosmodrome, only a military one, they fall into the Gulf of Mexico. The private spaceport is being built by Musk.
      2. 0
        8 March 2021 11: 23
        So yes, to declare, it does not mean that they will do ...
    2. +1
      8 March 2021 10: 46
      Rosket757 -so, the Turks will pay extra for it lol that is, they will overwhelm with claims, for parts of the carrier falling into their territory, and the upper stage. But, masozism in the blood of Vukrii at the genetic level, they are no stranger to doing everything through the fifth point. ...
      1. 0
        8 March 2021 11: 27
        It looks like they are no stranger to DECLARING! And then .... the skakuasa will jump in joyful ecstasy, and then the grass will not grow!
    3. +1
      8 March 2021 10: 47

      rocket757 (Victor)
      Today, 10: 42
      NEW
      +1
      "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

      How's that?
      Will everyone around who live there agree to this?
      What about? They will give each one a shovel ... and the cosmodrome is ready! Why should they carry out such projects with a shovel for the first time! wink laughing
      1. +2
        8 March 2021 11: 30
        Oh, yes, they dug the Black Sea ... so at the expense of the Mediterranean, they did not seem to dispose so widely, not their business. That's the question, and their gifts are waiting there ???
        Although, to declare does not mean to marry ... we know this, and gradually it comes to others.
    4. +3
      8 March 2021 11: 45
      Quote: rocket757
      "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

      How's that?
      Will everyone around who live there agree to this?


      So they slowly ... lol
      Good time! hi
      1. +1
        8 March 2021 12: 12
        Quote: cniza
        So they slowly ...

        Yeah, in one night ... hiding lard wink

        Hi hi
        1. +2
          8 March 2021 12: 18
          Greetings! hi

          Gene, it’s dangerous to trust them with matches ... one thing reassures me that these dreams are unrealizable, they don’t have money to launch their own satellite, and here is a whole cosmodrome ...
      2. +1
        8 March 2021 13: 03
        Low, low?
        Anyway, she WILL FALL somewhere! This could just become a precursor point, but ... either the check dies or the donkey dies, everything will happen as usual.
        1. +3
          8 March 2021 13: 16
          To fall, you need to take off, and with this they are not very ...
          1. +1
            8 March 2021 14: 19
            Skakuas will not be told about it ... and the rest can guess themselves.
            1. +1
              8 March 2021 15: 34
              And then don't tell me, they will dream and tell everyone, and then again they will accuse us that we disrupted the space program for them ...
              1. 0
                8 March 2021 15: 50
                Bad "dancers" they interfere with everything and everything, and not something that gets confused in their feet ... their own, dear, and they have chosen.
                1. +2
                  8 March 2021 16: 21
                  Whoever you choose, they are still controlled ...
                  1. +2
                    8 March 2021 18: 47
                    Elections, of course, are still that "fun", but they can, they can aggravate!
                    They surrender the country with a whistle, at a "twerk" pace.
    5. +2
      8 March 2021 12: 10
      Quote: rocket757
      "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

      How's that?
      Will everyone around who live there agree to this?

      And, in their minds winked everywhere, along the course of their missiles, live ancient u.kry Yes
      1. 0
        8 March 2021 13: 05
        Descendants, as it were .... that's just a problem, the "descendants" do not know this and are unlikely to want to know in the future.
  6. -1
    8 March 2021 10: 45
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean. She will fly over Turkey

    For Sultan-Erdogan, it will be a great joy.
    1. +2
      8 March 2021 12: 02
      Well, if it were something real, then Dmitry Natalukha would now sit in Turkey and sign documents on participation in the construction of a cosmodrome near Mogadishu. The Turks are going to invest 350 million in the first place. Agreements on partnership, lease, and expansion of the military presence to protect the facility under construction have already been signed. Instead, the program for the training of government troops is being seriously expanded. Also, Turkish companies and the fleet will build the Somali coast guard. This includes the supply of ships, crew training, the creation of a repair base and support.

      1. 0
        8 March 2021 12: 20
        From the point of view of the geography of the cosmodrome, there are no questions, almost an ideal place. But Somalia and the spaceport in one sentence ...
        I was somewhat surprised by this news. However, this is a clear signal that Turkey is strengthening in Africa. The Somali government lies under the Turks as the Libyan did.
        1. -1
          8 March 2021 13: 06
          But Somalia and the spaceport in one sentence ...

          Why not? You see, pirates are retraining as collectors of "heavenly" metal. laughing And there it is not far from the organization of a full-fledged rescue service at the cosmodrome. fellow
          1. +1
            April 2 2021 21: 23
            I think Turkey, given its not very distant past and quite tangible present, has much more prospects in this matter than Ukraine. And taking into account all kinds of bases of world partners of Turkey itself in Djibouti ...
  7. +4
    8 March 2021 10: 45
    People's Deputy Dmitry Natalukha said that "Ukraine has every chance of becoming a space power."
    Hold me seven! first save the people from diseases, and feed them .... the space owners)) laughing laughing
  8. HAM
    +1
    8 March 2021 10: 48
    Launching against the rotation of the Earth will surely fall on the Turks or Italians ..
    1. +9
      8 March 2021 10: 53
      Well, they can't run in the same direction as the Muscovites.
    2. 0
      8 March 2021 10: 56
      Quote: HAM
      Launching against the rotation of the Earth will surely fall on the Turks or Italians ..

      If it gets there.
    3. +1
      8 March 2021 10: 57
      Quote: HAM
      Launching against the rotation of the Earth will surely fall on the Turks or Italians ..

      So they will run at night. The Earth does not rotate at night. laughing
  9. +2
    8 March 2021 10: 49
    that Ukraine has a plan to create "Low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson».
    Something new in astronautics. recourse
    1. +2
      8 March 2021 12: 15
      Quote: sabakina
      that Ukraine has a plan to create «low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson».
      Something new in astronautics. recourse

      Reminds - low-grade ... what
  10. +1
    8 March 2021 10: 53
    Ukraine, missiles, fall-NATO tensed
  11. +2
    8 March 2021 10: 55
    Thank you Natalukha! Although it made me laugh, the clown lifted my spirits, otherwise I sit and think to which of the ladies to buy flowers, to which candies for March 8th. And now the mood is lifted, I will buy all my ladies a rose. Happy March 8 to all the ladies present on the VO website !!!
    1. +2
      8 March 2021 12: 18
      Quote: tihonmarine
      I think which of the ladies will buy flowers, to whom sweets for March 8. And now the mood is lifted, I will buy all my ladies a rose.

      Well done, Vlad! love
      And running, for flowers, as they say ... from a low start!
      1. +1
        8 March 2021 12: 49
        Quote: Clear
        And running, for flowers, as they say ... from a low start!

        All OK. Already ran and congratulated. And after work a "small" banquet is invited.
        Happy March 8! Health and good luck.
        1. +3
          8 March 2021 19: 09
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Happy March 8! Health and good luck.

          Thank you very much love
  12. +2
    8 March 2021 10: 56
    And here is what Kravchuk said on this topic.

    Briefly and clearly, but here is what foreign comrades think about this:
  13. +2
    8 March 2021 10: 56
    As far as I understand, these texts are written by speechwriters from Washington. Just 100% coincidence in some of the texts, if there are no victories, then they can be thought of! And for one thing to distract the population from hard everyday life, to give some confidence and pride in the state. But while one part of the population spreads rot on the other, nothing will be built in the country, where did the Nazis build a successful state?
  14. +1
    8 March 2021 10: 57
    All this "will take off" and "but fall" is more like a threat in the hope that, frightened, some country will buy up the remnants of the Ukrainian space industry, so that nothing takes off from there, let alone falls ...
  15. +2
    8 March 2021 11: 00
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

    Amazing !!! Moreover, the launch will not be like everyone else's "To the East", but "To the South". So still over Turkey and most importantly OVER THE CRIMEA !!! After all, Crimea is located between the Kherson region and Turkey. It looks like there will be a provocation "a la" the Kerch Strait. For this "good" deed, the rocket will be found and given to morons for free.
    1. -2
      8 March 2021 12: 52
      Quote: maykl8
      So still over Turkey and most importantly OVER THE CRIMEA !!! After all, Crimea is located between the Kherson region and Turkey.

      Russian air defenses will put their "creation" into the water (which will never take place).
    2. -2
      8 March 2021 13: 27
      the rocket will be found and given to morons for free.

      They will once again be given a meal through the hole, and not a rocket launched over the territory of a NATO country. And the letter to the Sultan will be remembered.
  16. +1
    8 March 2021 11: 09
    New Vasyuki ...
  17. 0
    8 March 2021 11: 12
    oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers (s) m / f "Last year's snow was falling" :)
  18. +1
    8 March 2021 11: 14
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
    I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?
    1. +1
      8 March 2021 11: 27
      Quote: svp67
      The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
      I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?

      And what is the probability that falling this step will not hit a flying passenger plane? Or a ship or a passenger yacht? Even in Russia, it is difficult to select launch routes so that they do not cross transport corridors. How many tons that have fallen on your head will not add optimism to anyone.
      1. -1
        8 March 2021 11: 36
        They took part in the Sea Launch project. But this has sunk into oblivion:

        "The Sea Launch Company was created to implement the project of the same name in 1995. [2] Its founders were Boeing, the Russian RSC Energia, the Norwegian shipbuilding company Kvaerner (now Aker Solutions), the Ukrainian KB Yuzhnoye and PO Yuzhmash. In the summer of 2009, the Sea Launch company declared its bankruptcy, and after the reorganization, RSC Energia took the leading role in the project. "
      2. 0
        8 March 2021 11: 50
        Quote: Cube123
        And what is the probability that falling this step will not hit a flying passenger plane? Or a ship or a passenger yacht?

        Yes, not any. That the same thing may not go according to plan. For this, the possible area of ​​the fall of the LV debris is declared closed, which means who will have to change their usual routes, incur financial losses ...
    2. Cat
      +1
      8 March 2021 11: 50
      I wonder how serious they are?

      Not at all. First, you need to lay a hyperloop to the cosmodrome. What are the cosmodromes to the devil if there is nothing to pay interest on loans with? Ukraine's external debt is about $ 95 billion
    3. +1
      8 March 2021 12: 53
      Quote: svp67
      I wonder how serious they are?

      So chatting, not going to the toilet, walking without leggings.
    4. 0
      8 March 2021 18: 32
      Everyone understands this very well, therefore, a one hundred percent incredible option was chosen.
  19. 0
    8 March 2021 11: 21
    Think big!
    Interplanetary chess tournament ....
  20. +3
    8 March 2021 11: 28
    They should raise pensions for the people, think about the elderly, about children, the level of education is at zero, the level of medicine is below the baseboard, corruption is rampant. And they were going to build a cosmodrome. "Cosmonauts", what can I say ...
  21. -1
    8 March 2021 11: 31
    "Sich-2-1", which was recently renamed "Sich-2-30"
    The main thing is to rename in time what has not yet been launched into space, and then you look and Musk will catch up, Turkey will give money so that "Ukrainian" rockets (satellites) do not fall on its head, and few of the "friends" will help. They live in dreams and will die with the dream that Russia is about to fall apart.
  22. +1
    8 March 2021 11: 37
    To this Natalukha again announced "an increase in prestige and a change in regional status."


    Natalukha, he is Natalukha in Africa, you can't let them play with matches, burn someone ...
  23. +1
    8 March 2021 11: 37
    Ukraine has a plan to create a "low-orbit cosmodrome near Kherson"
    If taken literally, the cosmodrome will be in space in a low orbit, but near Kherson. That is, Kherson is even higher. The grandeur of the plans is striking.
  24. 0
    8 March 2021 11: 38
    Well, yes, another "peremog" (after all, the previous mega-cost "space project" - "Sea Launch" was "safely sawn" and missed ... poh ... buried!) - now for "Oleshkovskie Peski", for the adjacent Kherson and Nikolaev lands of the local population, under the pretext of "building a cosmodrome", "Ukrainian" compradors - "w / Bandera" decided to take - "take away and divide (among themselves, for resale to their overseas owners!)" ??! negative
  25. +1
    8 March 2021 11: 39
    Unviable child! Commercially not profitable ... The main commercial launches on the rotation of the earth are so cheaper. In general, only the military and weathermen are launched into polar orbits, or I don't understand something?
  26. 0
    8 March 2021 11: 44
    With Musk, no matter how, you must first get on with NASA, and they raised the price for commercial cargo from $ 3000 per 1 kg to orbit, to $ 20000 per 1 kg there, and to lower from orbit to $ 40000 per kg, why would that be?
    1. +2
      8 March 2021 12: 15
      You can negotiate with anyone. Now for small countries with a small space load expanse.

      You can go to Kucheryakha. He can already send cubsat even to Venus (the first private mission, on a private rocket from Rocketlab in 23). At 550 km, you can throw an already serious satellite and for only $ 8 million. And how the reuse will make it even cheaper. And in 24 there will be an 8-ton rocket.


      Fireflies are flying very soon. And there is also the Texan-Dnipropetrovsk Ukrainians rule if that. This is a ton-class rocket.


      In 22, Teran1 will appear - the first rocket produced on a robotic line, using the printing method, with the world's first methane engines, which were originally designed for 3D printing and assembly operations on a robotic line.


      You can ask for a minibus to the Indians. Small but reliable. Well, or buy a VIP seat and go like a king for 45 million.


      This I also missed the Korean Nuri, the overpriced Europeans, the Branson system, as well as all the Chinese - because here the owner can prohibit.
      1. +1
        8 March 2021 12: 36
        Duc is for money, so any "smart" can, but for free there is nothing in space?
  27. +2
    8 March 2021 11: 49
    How is a spuknik in honor of the 30th anniversary of Ukraine? But what about the ancient xoxlossumery? Tse zrada splendid! Banderzianki, as you zpiymaete svogo people's deputy - on the count of his ohalnik !!!! laughing laughing laughing
  28. +3
    8 March 2021 12: 08
    Get ready Europe and the Middle East! The key word is to fall!
  29. 0
    8 March 2021 12: 58
    Nonsense of a dilettante dropout. Although the clown is all like that
  30. 0
    8 March 2021 13: 22
    How strongly the Yatsenyuk fence smelled.
  31. +1
    8 March 2021 13: 22
    I think the Turks will be very happy that a tank with heptyl can blurt out on their heads wassat
  32. +4
    8 March 2021 13: 41
    The photo in the title shows the second stage of the last Zenit-2 rocket to launch their Russian-made Lebed satellite, funded by the Canadian MDA. Now you can successfully forget about this medium.

    Meanwhile, the Samara RCC "Progress" welded the first forecastle for dynamic tests together with the engine for the domestic rocket "Soyuz-5", which is going to replace the "Zenith-2"

  33. 0
    8 March 2021 13: 59
    laughing The main thing is not that the air defense of the Moe of Russia "accidentally" is not shot down. " laughing and fall into the Mediterranean "straight Greek in the head with a spent stage with fuel laughing
  34. 0
    8 March 2021 14: 06
    Quote: Bad_gr
    Quote: frruc
    Environmentalists of the square will have their say.
    In his words, the rocket will fall (as I understand it, the spent stages of the rocket) into the Mediterranean Sea. That is, the rocket will be launched in the direction opposite to the Earth's rotation. It is original, of course: all the satellites (about 20 thousand) are spinning in one direction, and the Ukrainian in the opposite direction, dodging the oncoming ones.

    The laws of physics are not familiar to them laughing
  35. 0
    8 March 2021 14: 18
    Dreams, dreams ... What is your sweetness? You loved space in 2014 ...
  36. 0
    8 March 2021 15: 16
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson
    Eh-I-I-I. Europeans only lacked "green", deeply free, independent heptyl to receive Sumeria into the fraternal family of nations. fool
  37. +4
    8 March 2021 15: 55
    Quote: sabakina
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: rocket757
    How's that?

    It just won't take off.

    Why? At the mattresses, "moonwalkers" took off from Houston ... And fell into the Atlantic ...

    With what dampness did something take off from Houston for the Americans?

    Quote: maykl8
    "The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean": in Ukraine, they talked about the project of the cosmodrome near Kherson

    Amazing !!! Moreover, the launch will not be like everyone else's "To the East", but "To the South". So still over Turkey and most importantly OVER THE CRIMEA !!! After all, Crimea is located between the Kherson region and Turkey. It looks like there will be a provocation "a la" the Kerch Strait. For this "good" deed, the rocket will be found and given to morons for free.

    Not all and not always launch "right to the east". This is only at the equator at zero inclination of the orbit. The rest run either to the northeast or to the southeast. At one time, according to rumors, we even planned the construction of a cosmodrome somewhere in the Taimyr or Yamal region with a launch direction "to the south." Now from the Israeli spaceport Palmachim launches are carried out in the direction "to the west" (so this is not unusual)

    Further. Over Turkey, yes, the trajectory can really pass, but over Crimea... Sorry, but your knowledge of geography - just surprise... How the trajectory can pass over the Crimea if the step falls in the Mediterranean


    Quote: svp67
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
    I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?

    It's hard to say, Sergei! Israel is launching in a westerly direction. Of course, trails are possible, but usually a NOTAM is issued to close a certain zone. True, I don't think that the Mediterranean countries will be happy with such Ukrainian launches ...

    Quote: Cube123
    Quote: svp67
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.
    I wonder how serious they are? There are many air routes over the Mediterranean Sea, there are many islands in the sea, and many sea routes pass along the sea itself. Does anyone understand that the fall of the rocket debris is a real threat to all this?

    And what is the probability that falling this step will not hit a flying passenger plane? Or a ship or a passenger yacht? Even in Russia, it is difficult to select launch routes so that they do not cross transport corridors. How many tons that have fallen on your head will not add optimism to anyone.

    The probability is almost zero, if everything is done according to the mind. A notice is issued about the closure of a certain zone for aircraft and ships for a certain period of time. And launch routes always cross transport corridors. And all this is decided
  38. 0
    8 March 2021 17: 09
    what Such articles should be placed in the "humor" section. It is a pity that there is no such section.
  39. 0
    8 March 2021 17: 16
    In Ukraine, they decided to "master space" - a limit has already been selected at the "big construction site" ??? Before the "departure" of Gnusaviy (V. Zelensky), the retinue of Gnusaviy needs to "master" as much $ as possible - that's the whole "trick" ...
  40. 0
    8 March 2021 17: 36
    Spring tour of the Kiev circus.
  41. +2
    8 March 2021 22: 04
    Quote: Bad_gr
    Quote: Avis
    Judging by the article (flight over Turkey and the fall of the Mediterranean Sea), it turns out not a retrograde orbit, but a polar one.

    I do not know at what distance the first, second, and third stages of the Ukrainian rocket will fall, but, for example, in our Soyuz-5, the first stage should fall presumably 900 km from the launch site. The distance from Kherson to Istanbul in a straight line is 690 km. The width of Turkey is 550 km. That is, if you run strictly to the south, the steps will fall on Turkey. If you run it through Turkish + Greek territory (against the rotation of the Earth), then the spent stages will fall into the Mediterranean Sea (although they can also fall into the territory of Greece).
    Where am I mistaken?

    It is unlikely that we are talking about some kind of three-stage missiles. Most likely these will be carriers based on the old Soviet R-12, R-14. They even developed a line of such rockets, EMNIP was called "Mayak" Cyclogram to find at least carriers of the "Cosmos" type, then one could say at what distance the first fall field of the steps will be and at what
  42. 0
    8 March 2021 22: 16
    In general, the price of launching the Sich-2-30 satellite on the Falcon-9 rocket will be $ 1 million. Launch scheduled for December 2021
    1. 0
      11 March 2021 11: 18
      Near-earth space is already littered with space debris, why is there another 170 kg of unnecessary debris? It would be better if this million would be spent on subsidies to citizens to pay for housing and communal services.
    2. +1
      April 2 2021 21: 41
      on that and uzbagoyatsya, from time to time they will throw a couple of dozen in numbering. Zelo will be cheaper than paying for the maintenance of the people's deputy.
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  45. 0
    8 March 2021 22: 50
    litaki will fly! bombs will be bombed !!! and then there are the fellows to fly! ukrorebyata give us a break !!! and then laugh for the seventh year in a row !!
  46. 0
    9 March 2021 02: 16
    A sick country gives rise to abnormal people with inadequate thinking ..
  47. -1
    9 March 2021 12: 08
    Oleshkovsky sands and the border of Kherson and Nikolaev regions, these are two different directions. And the cosmodrome is being built in general in the third place.
  48. 0
    9 March 2021 13: 46
    The launch vehicle will take off over the Black Sea and fall into the Mediterranean.

    Considering the ship traffic in Mediterranean, many will not like it if rockets suddenly fall on them, if of course it even comes to that. You may or may not expect everything from the skakuas. fellow lol
  49. 0
    9 March 2021 13: 49
    God is with him with their mriyas. Is that why the block is not signed in Russian? laughing Where is the SBU looking?
  50. 0
    9 March 2021 13: 49
    Quote: Bad_gr
    , of course: all satellites (about 20 thousand) rotate in one direction, and Ukrainian in the opposite direction

    And why not, in terms of the withdrawn cargo, this method will be no worse than our Plesetsk, the southern location will compensate for the unfavorable direction
  51. 0
    9 March 2021 16: 06
    that since 2017 the country has not been able to launch its satellite. We are talking about the Sich-2-1 satellite,

    Last year I visited the Yuzhmash Museum. There I saw this unsightly cube satellite. In my opinion this is what we are talking about. Nobody needs it for several years.

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  53. +1
    9 March 2021 17: 35
    ... "the space industry has discredited itself over the past couple of decades." - Not the industry, but you! As a people - a nation and a kind of "state". Your Cosmos - this drove the former bandos - the gelding of the city of Kuev, as the limit of dreams come true.
  54. -1
    9 March 2021 18: 47
    Why pollute the Mediterranean Sea? Better yet, let the missiles fall on Kuev or Lvov.
  55. 0
    9 March 2021 20: 35
    It was as if I was reading news from a madhouse. negative
    There is devastation, poverty, unemployment in the country, and they are all about darkness.
    What space? What launch vehicles? Ukraine alone is not capable of building anything, even before the severance of relations with Russia, and even now. Are the people living there not fed up with this endless lies?
    Now they should be worried about another dilemma: how to raise tariffs for the population, on the orders of the IMF, so that they themselves are not raised with pitchforks. Space conquerors.
  56. 0
    10 March 2021 00: 14
    Actually, before reaching Turkey, the rocket must fly over Crimea. And by this time she will not have time to gain 100 km. So, all these statements are just an attempt to start another scandal. At some point, ours will have to declare that they will shoot down the rocket. And then the hype desired by the non-brothers will rise. After all, Crimea is their own territory for them; coordinating missile flights with the Russian Federation is a waste of time for them.
  57. 0
    10 March 2021 10: 17
    Quote: seti
    But it’s unlikely that the Nazis will get this piece of the trough - the country’s leadership 4o4 is the main racketeer.

    Can you still tell them apart?
  58. 0
    11 March 2021 11: 13
    The Ukrainian rocket will only take off, and Great Russia will have the right to shoot it down during takeoff!
  59. 0
    11 March 2021 12: 22
    Start with a piece of lard in the embroidered shirt. Space power. And ask your owners for permission.
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  61. 0
    11 March 2021 13: 51
    Only a rich, economically wealthy state can afford full-scale space activities (Ukraine, of course, is not one of these). They can be counted on the fingers of two hands (USA, Russia, China, India, France, Japan, Israel, etc.) Since the collapse of the USSR, how many missile launch vehicles have Ukraine built and how many of them have been launched in its interests, at least from Baikonur or Sea Launch? All so-called Ukraine’s space activities are a couple of its own satellites launched by foreign rockets from foreign spaceports, one Ukrainian passenger named Kadenyuk on the American Shuttle, plus supplies of rockets for Sea Launch and the Russian space program, but after 2 there are no Russian orders and there will be no, and Sea Launch was bought by Russia and is in a port in the Far East awaiting modernization. Ukraine's attempts to establish cooperation with Brazil ended in nothing. So the great space power of Ukraine is a wet pipe dream
  62. 0
    11 March 2021 18: 22
    “increasing prestige and changing regional status” - well, prestige is understandable, but what is regional status?
  63. 0
    12 March 2021 11: 29
    And who will build the spaceport for them? They do not have their own specialists and never have had them. As well as money.
  64. 0
    12 March 2021 20: 36
    First, dig up the next sea, and then go to Mars, dig the sea, Musk will take you there, don’t forget to put on your pans when taking off, comedians.
  65. 0
    15 March 2021 06: 46
    New gigantic budget cut....
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  67. 0
    April 19 2021 07: 59
    Grandiose plans for 404...we just have to live until this moment.
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  69. 0
    13 May 2021 16: 59
    The maximum program for modern Ukraine in the space industry is to once again rename the satellite.