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Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us

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Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us

At the beginning of 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were unable to defend their country, whose economic situation at that time was extremely difficult. Therefore, Crimea was lost.


This opinion was expressed during the broadcast on the "24 channel" of Ukraine, Alexander Turchinov, the former acting president of the country.

The army at the beginning of 2014 was virtually unable to defend the country.

- he said.

Turchynov noted that at that time the Ukrainian state budget had only 100 thousand hryvnias (approximately 270 thousand rubles), that is, it had absolutely no funds to conduct any military operations to stop the "Russian aggression".

The ex-speaker of the Ukrainian parliament and the ex-secretary of the NSDC also added that, in the early 90s of the last century, Ukraine would not abandon the strategic nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained in its composition, and not reunited with the Russian Federation.

If we had not renounced nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us.

Thus, the former acting president of Ukraine, who at that time also fulfilled the functions of the supreme commander in chief and soon unleashed a war in the Donbass against his own people, is trying to justify his incompetence and inaction, citing the country's poverty and other reasons beyond his control.

Recall that it was Turchinov who at one time gave the order to actually start a civil war in the east of the country. Ukrainian combat aviation bombed the cities of Donbass, ground forces used large-caliber artillery. Today, Kiev is clearly showing a desire to resume active hostilities, as evidenced by numerous similar statements from Ukrainian officials.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 7 March 2021 08: 58
    +30
    Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us

    So there you go what And that Kravchuk has not yet been imprisoned, he was the president when the Outskirts lost their nuclear status?

    Ah, well, yes ... In the same place, "partners" from overseas demanded that you disarm (at least in some way you can show gratitude to the Amers) ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 March 2021 09: 12
      +18
      Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us
      And, it was not necessary to marry, so my head would not hurt. (film "It Can't Be")
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 7 March 2021 09: 35
        +26
        The ex-speaker of the Ukrainian parliament and the ex-secretary of the NSDC also added that if Ukraine had not given up strategic nuclear weapons in the early 90s of the last century, Crimea would have remained in its composition, and not reunited with the Russian Federation.

        Well, after all, the Ukrainians gave up nuclear weapons not just like that, but because the Russian Federation took upon itself all the past foreign debts of all union republics in the USSR!
        In addition, the expensive ONE-SIDE disposal of nuclear weapons during the CAPITULATION of the former USSR in the Cold War before the United States was also carried out at the expense of the Russian Federation.
        This was done at the insistence of the United States. Washington was afraid to leave nuclear weapons in other republics - it was afraid of the same Ukraine with nuclear weapons, like a monkey with a grenade in Gulyai Pole.

        So Turchinov on this issue publishes only bunches of himself!
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 7 March 2021 09: 38
          +6
          Quote: Tatiana
          Well, after all, the Ukrainians gave up nuclear weapons not just like that, but because the Russian Federation took upon itself all the past foreign debts of all union republics in the USSR!

          So Turchinov, with his pastor sect, really had no idea about it No.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 7 March 2021 09: 55
            +11
            Quote: Terenin
            Quote: Tatiana
            Well, after all, the Ukrainians gave up nuclear weapons not just like that, but because the Russian Federation took upon itself all the past foreign debts of all union republics in the USSR!

            So Turchinov, with his pastor sect, really had no idea about it No.

            Yes Turchinov knows all this!
            Turchynov just in Goebbels way, when the society is searching for those responsible for the loss of Crimea by Ukraine, turns the arrows from his sore head to a healthy one! He seeks to personally evade responsibility for accusing him of Russophobic Bandera-Nazism and unleashing a civil war in the country.
            Turchinov is a war criminal!
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha 7 March 2021 10: 23
              +10
              At the beginning of 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were unable to defend their country, whose economic situation at that time was extremely difficult.

              And now the economic situation of the outskirts is a sight for sore eyes, it is getting stronger and blooming. When he speaks, it feels like he is delusional.
          2. frruc
            frruc 7 March 2021 11: 27
            +2
            Alexander Turchinov:
            The army at the beginning of 2014 was virtually unable to defend the country.

            Let us recall 1995 the North Caucasus and the plight of the Russian army and the Bandera units of the UNA in the same place. It is a pity that not all of them were killed or hanged.
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 7 March 2021 11: 08
          +3
          Tatyana completely agrees with you. There is also an addition - the Americans also did not want to leave in the hands of Ukraine and the rest of the weapons inherited from the USSR. The sale of which they promoted according to black schemes, but with wiring through US banks. It's no secret that most of the former bureaucrats are from The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and Ukroborontorg settled on the warm beaches of California along with a deny from the sale of warehouses. At the same time, for the same thing, bending down Booth and several other figures from the former republics and eastern countries.
        3. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 7 March 2021 11: 35
          +2
          It's funny. Bandera pastor - Chicken ass - dreams of what would have happened. Yeah, and Ukraine would become the second France! laughing laughing laughing
        4. Dmitry Potapov
          Dmitry Potapov 7 March 2021 13: 24
          +2
          I think if nuclear weapons remained in Ukraine, then we would meet traces of it (weapons) all over the world, and the nuclear club would noticeably grow.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 7 March 2021 15: 31
            +1
            Quote: Dmitry Potapov
            I think stay nuclear weapons in Ukraine

            If nuclear weapons remained in Ukraine, then with their current rhetoric, Ukraine would not exist for a long time. Moreover, they would have beaten from both sides, from the east and from the west. Nobody needs an inadequate neighbor with a grenade, especially a nuclear one. And now, when Ukraine's poisonous teeth have been removed (with the direct involvement of the United States), it is allowed by its Western owners to bark and even bite. But the fact that a mad dog is always shot is not taken into account at all.
        5. Black lotos
          Black lotos 7 March 2021 15: 32
          +2
          Quote: Tatiana
          Well, after all, the Ukrainians gave up nuclear weapons not just like that, but because the Russian Federation took upon itself all the past foreign debts of all union republics in the USSR!

          The debt of the USSR, like the assets of the USSR, Ukraine wanted to divide in equal shares. Until now, the only country that has not recognized the Russian system of debts / assets of the USSR from the Russian Federation is Ukraine. She never agreed to transfer the debt of the USSR solely to the Russian Federation in exchange for not recognizing assets in equal shares. Then the sole decision of the Russian Federation to take everything and assets and debts. Ukraine's opinion was ignored.
          The abandonment of nuclear weapons is not associated with Soviet debts
          176 intercontinental ballistic missiles and silos for them, from 1514 to 2156 strategic warheads, from 2800 to 4200 tactical nuclear warheads and from 30 to 43 heavy bombers equipped with nuclear weapons.
          Ukrainian tactical and strategic weapons contained 67-85 tons of weapons-grade plutonium and 80-102 tons of highly enriched uranium. With a total cost of 41,4-52,5 billion. dollars! Let me remind you: the entire budget of Ukraine in 92-93 years was 7-9 billion dollars
          It's funny that the West, represented by the World Bank and the United States, did not want to consider any independent republics with nuclear weapons at all. So the Ukrainian SSR / Ukraine was just a part of the USSR for them. And the carve-up of one nuclear arsenal by 4 was not part of their plans (it created 4 times more problems)
          Margaret Thatcher said this during her visit to Kiev in June 1990. When asked how she feels about the possibility of opening a Ukrainian embassy in London, Thatcher replied that her country does not have diplomatic relations with California. A thick hint that for her Ukraine is as much an integral part of the Union as California is for the United States.
          Bush then said: "Americans will not support those who seek independence to replace remote tyranny with local despotism. They will not help those who promote suicidal nationalism based on ethnic hatred."
          So nuclear weapons disarmament of Ukraine was discussed economically EXPENSIVE
          And politically - in exchange for the recognition of independence, Ukraine gives up its nuclear potential (it was aimed at the United States).
          The nationalists, as always, will sell their mothers for independence, without knocking out any compensation. The Budapest memorandum and money for disarmament and nothing more.
          Themselves evil Pinocchio. This is me about the People's Movement and other nationalists of Ukraine. From them so much trouble to this country.
        6. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 8 March 2021 00: 28
          0
          Quote: Tatiana
          Well, after all, the Ukrainians gave up nuclear weapons not just like that, but because the Russian Federation took upon itself all the past foreign debts of all union republics in the USSR!

          Where did you read that? Can I get some info? Turn on the logic Ukraine transfers nuclear weapons, and the Russian Federation for some reason pays debts for all former republics?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 8 March 2021 01: 32
            +2
            So all the former republics transferred the nuclear weapons that they had to Russia, and not just Ukraine. This was the condition on the part of the United States for the world to recognize the collapse of the USSR into independent countries on the basis of the so-called. "titular" nationalities.
            At the same time, enterprises for the disposal of nuclear weapons in the USSR were only on the territory of the RSFSR. In Kazakhstan, in my opinion, there was something else, but the enterprise itself belonged to the RSFSR. Moreover, the very disarmament of the USSR and the reduction of nuclear weapons of the USSR fit into the plans of Gorbachev and the United States - with the sale by Yeltsin to the United States of almost the entire stock of Soviet weapons-grade nuclear material for "pennies" for 20 years.
            Other republics simply could not dispose of their nuclear weapons in principle. They didn't create it.
            Read about the deal Gore (USA) with Russia! I speak from memory! The information is very old.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 8 March 2021 11: 29
              -1
              Quote: Tatiana
              So all the former republics transferred the nuclear weapons that they had to Russia, and not just Ukraine.

              Only the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR, the BSSR and the Kazakh SSR had strategic nuclear weapons ...
              Tactical nuclear weapons were withdrawn to the RSFSR from the Kazakh SSR, Transcaucasia and the ATS countries even before the collapse of the Union ...
              I don’t know what the "right-wing" people are accusing the first president of Ukraine of, he tried to keep Ukraine's status as a nuclear power, only the United States and Europe didn’t smile at all ...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 8 March 2021 12: 26
                +1
                Quote: Lara Croft
                I don’t know what the "right-wing" people are accusing the first president of Ukraine of, he tried to keep Ukraine's status as a nuclear power, only the United States and Europe didn’t smile at all ...

                Nuclear weapons in Ukraine did not smile at the United States and Europe (Great Britain, France and Germany, first of all), because in the Ukrainian SSR, more nuclear weapons were CONCENTRATED per unit of territory than in other union republics of the USSR. And besides, the Bandera revenge of the Ukrainian nationalists was planned and prepared by the United States and the collective West from the beginning of the "perestroika" of the USSR by the traitor and idiot Gorbachev and the subsequent collapse of the USSR.
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 7 March 2021 10: 51
        +4
        Turchinov will not say that he is an empty place. Chubaty should have forgotten about Crimea. Let them rewrite history. They can do it. Serves right chubaty. Seriously.
      3. VORON538
        VORON538 7 March 2021 12: 10
        0
        Ukraine would not refuse nuclear weapons, it would have spread all over the world, and without that everything would have been sold :))) So there would be nothing left before Crimea left :)))
    2. Clear
      Clear 7 March 2021 09: 55
      +5
      Turchynov noted that at that time the Ukrainian state budget had only 100 thousand hryvnia (about 270 thousand rubles), that is, it had absolutely no funds.
      Turchinov, you had such a sum in your pocket. So I would share with the budget.
    3. nnm
      nnm 7 March 2021 10: 18
      +7
      Twice I heard from independent sources that the GRU removed all nuclear weapons from the republics in ONE night and that, in fact, all these "refusals" were just a formality. They did not have a single "head". Only phantom pains.
      1. Black lotos
        Black lotos 7 March 2021 15: 40
        0
        Quote: nnm
        Twice I heard from independent sources that the GRU removed all nuclear weapons from the republics in ONE night and that, in fact, all these "refusals" were just a formality.

        there is such a version / versions.
        They are not far from the truth, since the 43rd army with Ukrainian specialists / special services was taken out in advance. They had a headquarters in Vinnitsa.
        In one of his interviews, former Defense Minister Oleksandr Kuzmuk put forward his version: all tactical nuclear weapons were removed from the territory of Ukraine even before the collapse of the Soviet Union.

        but they could not take everything out. And everyone needed to destroy not only the weapons themselves, but also the potential with capabilities, including infrastructure.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 8 March 2021 00: 53
          0
          Quote: Black Lotos
          43 army with Ukrainian specialists / special services were taken out in advance. They had a headquarters in Vinnitsa.

          In addition to the 43rd RA (176 silo launchers with 1272 nuclear warheads), in Ukraine, as in other republics of the USSR (and some ATS countries), units of the 12th Main Directorate of the USSR Ministry of Defense were located ...
          WIKI:
          In 1989-1991, on the eve of the collapse of the USSR, the 12th Main Directorate of the Defense Ministry carried out the return of tactical nuclear weapons from the Warsaw Pact countries and the Union republics of the Caucasus and Central Asia to the territory of Russia, and in 1992-1996, the export of nuclear weapons from Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to objects of the Russian Ministry of Defense.
    4. venik
      venik 7 March 2021 11: 27
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      So won’t what what And that Kravchuk has not yet been imprisoned, he was the president when the Outskirts lost their nuclear status?

      ==========
      good
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      Quote: Insurgent
      In the same place, "partners" from overseas demanded that you disarm (at least in some way you can show gratitude to the Amers) ...

      ==========
      It's just that the Yankees and the "enlightened Geyropa" were very much afraid of the appearance of a "monkey with a grenade" near the borders of Geyropa !!! laughing
      drinks
    5. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 7 March 2021 14: 48
      +1
      The Amerzi knew who they were turning the U.K.R.o. into a zombie and knew that it would not be wise for such a "Somalia" to leave nuclear weapons.
  2. Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 7 March 2021 09: 00
    +13
    And if my grandmother suddenly grew a member, then she would become a grandfather. But it is not exactly.
  3. figwam
    figwam 7 March 2021 09: 00
    +11
    If we had not renounced nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us.

    You are not yet mature enough for such a weapon.
    1. Clear
      Clear 7 March 2021 10: 03
      +5
      Quote: figvam
      If we had not renounced nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us.

      You are not yet mature enough for such a weapon.


      So, with the Turchinovs, an analogy suggests itself winked

      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 7 March 2021 10: 17
        +3
        Quote: Clear
        So, with the Turchinovs, an analogy suggests itself


        Take a look at the object shirshe - such an analogy begs for the entire Outskirts ...

        After all, if God gave the pig horns, then there would be trouble ...
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 7 March 2021 10: 35
      +2
      For such a weapon, you are not yet mature enough ... well, so fresh food does not fall to scavengers. and in general it is not to your taste ... the garbage dump is their home
    3. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 7 March 2021 11: 16
      +1
      I agree. The maximum that you can have a forelock is AK. The nation is not capable of anything more. Servants of all masters.
  4. K-50
    K-50 7 March 2021 09: 01
    +13
    Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us

    "Matches" for skakuas are not toys. request
    1. 1331M
      1331M 7 March 2021 09: 07
      +17
      Such minds would be enough to apply, but Yulia once mentioned "to kill katsapov with nuclear weapons" ...
      1. Clear
        Clear 7 March 2021 09: 57
        +6
        Quote: 1331M
        Such a mind would have enough to apply

        While, mind already escaped from them. What's even more dangerous.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 March 2021 10: 33
        +4
        Quote: 1331M
        Such minds would be enough to apply, but Yulia once mentioned "to kill katsapov with nuclear weapons" ...

        How to build, then they have no mind, and blowing up the mind is not necessary, but if the brains are also sharpened for it.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 7 March 2021 15: 46
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          How to build, then they have no mind, and blowing up the mind is not necessary, but if the brains are also sharpened for it.

          They still do not take into account the fact that nuclear weapons are huge expenses for the maintenance of both the weapons themselves and the entire infrastructure. In addition, if the cunning descendants of the Sumerians would not even sell nuclear weapons wholesale and retail, they tend to "deteriorate". Therefore, it requires constant updating, for which it is necessary to have a whole branch of production. And how does this compare with Ukraine, which has no money for anything, which is begged all over the world, but angrily threatens with fists and twists legs. Oh, if only, if only, then we would "show everyone." laughing Apart from laughter and pity, it causes nothing. That's just all Russian in Ukraine is prohibited and people in Donbass are dying.
  5. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 7 March 2021 09: 06
    +7
    If we had not renounced nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us.

    As if someone asked them whether they want to keep nuclear weapons or not.
  6. iouris
    iouris 7 March 2021 09: 06
    +6
    Turchinov is inadequate or thinks others are stupid.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 March 2021 09: 17
      +12
      Quote: iouris
      Turchinov is inadequate or thinks others are stupid.

      TRUPchinov, this is a murderer! He gave the order to kill people in the South and East of Ukraine.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 7 March 2021 09: 45
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Turchinov is inadequate or thinks others are stupid.

      Of course, he thinks everyone is stupid. "Ukraine had a difficult economic situation" Why? is now better? What BEFORE the pandemic, what is now - the economy ordered to live long!
      "The budget is only 100 thousand hryvnia!" Who stole everything?
    3. Clear
      Clear 7 March 2021 09: 57
      +5
      Quote: iouris
      Turchinov is inadequate or thinks others are stupid.

      That's right, he considers everyone stupid, because he is inadequate.
    4. Mitroha
      Mitroha 7 March 2021 10: 28
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Turchinov is inadequate or thinks others are stupid.

      There is both.
  7. Alexga
    Alexga 7 March 2021 09: 07
    +3
    That fragile peace between people inside the country would not have been destroyed, there would be no present cartoons.
    1. Clear
      Clear 7 March 2021 10: 05
      +3
      Quote: AlexGa
      That fragile peace between people inside the country would not have been destroyed, there would be no present cartoons.

      So all Western, Sorovian instructions work only for destruction. Example, Ukraine and Armenia.
  8. Simargl
    Simargl 7 March 2021 09: 11
    +6
    If Ukraine did not give up nuclear weapons, with any turmoil, the West of Russia would still give money to take the grenade away from the monkeys.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 7 March 2021 09: 12
    +6
    Fairy tales for skakuas ...
    and that weapon was not theirs, and it was a complete ruin to maintain it, to maintain it in a combat state ...
    Oh yes, it was directed ONLY ON THE STRIP !!!
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 7 March 2021 09: 28
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Oh yes, it was directed ONLY ON THE STRIP !!!
      You can also redirect. The point is that they have the opportunity to make a "dirty bomb" - to act like real terrorists.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 March 2021 10: 12
        0
        Quote: Simargl
        You can and redirect

        What happened THEN could NOT be redirected anywhere ...
        for a "dirty bomb", rocket technologies are optional, a handful of de / B / silts is enough ... although you need a LOT of babosiks, some production technologies are needed, which they DIDN'T have and didn’t have. otherwise de / B / silt will not save enough, they will die like flies.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 7 March 2021 11: 03
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          What happened THEN could NOT be redirected anywhere ...
          Take off the warheads, put them on a steam locomotive and take them where necessary. Not?

          Quote: rocket757
          for, "dirty bomb", rocket technology is optional
          Missiles are needed only for a quick response. A "sleeping" bomb can be delivered to the desired point even by donkeys.

          Quote: rocket757
          although babosikov need a LOT, some production technologies are needed, which they did not have and did not have.
          One of the largest %% of NPP generation.

          Quote: rocket757
          otherwise you will not get enough de / B / silt
          You tell the psychiatrists that they can be nurtured from the cradle - it works best of all. Yes, you can look around: the stratification of society in terms of intelligence is very large.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 March 2021 11: 38
            0
            Quote: Simargl
            Not?

            NOT. It just won't work, and the PROBLEMS grew very quickly, after the second - third year of storage ...
            Listen to Starikov, Gorbunov ... these will explain everything in the case, not like modern dill patriots.
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 7 March 2021 13: 21
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              and the PROBLEMS were growing very quickly
              Some would have been sold to Israel.
              Although no: that's it.
    2. cniza
      cniza 7 March 2021 10: 03
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      Fairy tales for skakuas ...
      and that weapon was not theirs, and it was a complete ruin to maintain it, to maintain it in a combat state ...
      Oh yes, it was directed ONLY ON THE STRIP !!!


      In a word, mriischiki - they always, if only if only ...

      Good time! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 March 2021 10: 14
        +1
        Hi soldier
        Skakuas led by the next Fuhrer ... no matter what color, all are the same and jump to the same tune.
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 March 2021 12: 01
          +3
          Their leaders are strange, their faces are different, but the insides are one and the same is controlled from outside ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 March 2021 12: 06
            +1
            Striped people do not even consider freedom of choice, to someone other than themselves, as an acceptable option ...
            clear choice and complete control.
            1. cniza
              cniza 7 March 2021 12: 23
              +3
              And everything is being done so that only territory and no industry remain from Ukraine ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 7 March 2021 12: 30
                +1
                Skakuas will not be explained what they are and why ... the technology has been worked out, on the same, pan-headed.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 7 March 2021 12: 35
                  +3
                  And it is practically impossible to explain to them, they see and hear nothing under the pots ...
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 March 2021 10: 37
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      Fairy tales for skakuas ...
      And that weapon was not theirs, and it was a complete ruin to keep it, to maintain it in combat condition.

      If Ukraine had nuclear weapons left, then I have no doubt that some kind of warhead they would have exploded long ago. Or the states would take it to themselves.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 March 2021 11: 42
        0
        After the third year of storage, without QUALIFIED MAINTENANCE, this mine is not very slow-acting, dangerous for everything and everyone around!
        The striped animals did not need it .... the disposal costs are not measured !!!
      2. Black lotos
        Black lotos 7 March 2021 15: 46
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Or the states would take it to themselves.

        it was the tough position of the United States that left no chances even for at least one warhead. It was about missiles aimed at the United States itself with a control panel from Moscow.
        There was a tough ultimatum-refusal or blockade.
        “They didn't just come, they demanded. They said: "If you do not complete the task of removing the warheads from Ukraine, not just pressure will begin, but a blockade of Ukraine," Leonid Kravchuk recalled in an interview with Ukrainian Pravda.

        This comrade, accepting Bill, trembled and agreed to all the conditions.
        It was really hard for him. It was not possible to knock out any compensation due to the inability and desire to "hang around" as soon as possible.
        True, his political opponent - Kuchma managed to keep guarantees, Yuzhmash from closure, and 100 tons of assemblies.
  10. Cowbra
    Cowbra 7 March 2021 09: 12
    +2
    God did not give horns to a butcher cow ...
  11. prior
    prior 7 March 2021 09: 13
    +6
    The former acting president of the country, a man who personally profited from Crimea, tells tales about if only ...
    Yes, he should have been put on the trident first for that.
    But, the historical injustice has been eliminated, Crimea is Russian and now it is forever!
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 7 March 2021 09: 25
      +6
      And what does Turchinov have to do with it? He is a petty fascist-nedotykomka. Do you think this is the reason for this photo in the 90s?

      Or this one from 2008?

      Turchinov is a petty mongrel, nothing depended on him and does not depend on him
      1. prior
        prior 7 March 2021 09: 28
        +1
        I agree with the assessment of the personality of Turchinov, but in 2014 he could have given the order for bloodshed ...... yes, he described himself.
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 March 2021 09: 39
          +2
          Turchinov is the main culprit in the bloodshed in Donbass.
          1. prior
            prior 7 March 2021 09: 50
            +2
            Yes, Turchinov started, but if anyone has blood on his hands up to a pig's throat, it's Poroshenko.
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 March 2021 09: 57
              +2
              The invaders of power in Ukraine are guilty of these sins.
            2. Clear
              Clear 7 March 2021 10: 00
              +4
              Quote: prior
              Yes, Turchinov started, but if anyone has blood on his hands up to a pig's throat, it's Poroshenko.

              Everyone who fraternized with the Bandera members has blood on their hands and will never be washed off.
  12. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 March 2021 09: 15
    +3
    The bloody pastor has completely moved in his mind.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 7 March 2021 09: 22
      0
      An ardent Komsomol member, where to work just not to work.
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 March 2021 09: 33
        -2
        And you, by chance, will not come from Ukraine ??? Why do you react so sharply to comments about this bloody abomination (Turchinov) ???
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 7 March 2021 09: 41
          0
          No, I just like you do not digest it and I want to see it on a stick. The example cited that indeed the Banderlog had a program to get into power through the party structures.
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 March 2021 09: 45
            0
            I still cannot understand, why did you write me such an answer to my comment ???
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 7 March 2021 09: 49
              0
              And what is wrong. It does not seem strange to you that as soon as the USSR collapsed, the heroization of Bandera in Ukraine began.
              1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 March 2021 09: 51
                0
                How does this relate to my comments written above ???
  13. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 7 March 2021 09: 17
    +1
    Well, that is, Ukraine did not dare to use conventional weapons, but nuclear ones definitely helped to be. A couple of splashes on Simferopol and Sevastopol and now not on, Crimea has not left. So I understand? And the owners would be happy and allowed?
    But I see it differently, if there were no revolution, Crimea would have been yours for a while. And so it is ours, as it was almost all the time of its existence. And not so empty-headed bald women with limited social and not only responsibility to discuss this. Whose right is he and and what is nuclear weapons.
  14. don-1500
    don-1500 7 March 2021 09: 20
    +2
    An open Calabarist, praising all the Shukhevychs, calmly watching the torchlight processions in the center of Kiev and commanding the national battalions from head to toe hung with Nazi paraphernalia. And this man, who is there blathering about the possession of nuclear weapons ...
  15. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 7 March 2021 09: 20
    0
    From the choice of nuclear weapons or the repayment of the USSR's debt proportional to Ukraine, the Ukrainians predictably chose to repay the debt. In 92, Ukraine was the second army in Europe. Money is above all, now do not cry.
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos 7 March 2021 16: 00
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      From the choice of nuclear weapons or the repayment of the USSR's debt proportional to Ukraine, the Ukrainians predictably chose to repay the debt

      the debt was not associated with nuclear weapons.
      Americans have allocated 147 million exclusively for disarmament. There was even a conflict, that they did not want to take on obligations in the contract, that if something goes wrong through their fault.
      The rejection of nuclear weapons from the material brought only 100 tons of assemblies for nuclear power plants.
  16. Quadro
    Quadro 7 March 2021 09: 21
    0
    And what, ukrii someone gave a choice? We were presented with a fact. If they refused, the Americans themselves would come and take them away. Or ukriya would disappear from the political map.
    1. edmed
      edmed 7 March 2021 09: 48
      +1
      Quote: Quadro
      And what, ukrii someone gave a choice? We were presented with a fact. If they refused, the Americans themselves would come and take them away.

      "That's for sure!" "A light bulb" was in their barn, a switch in Moscow, if the Ukrainians wanted their own switch, the United States strangled them like a chicken, because they do not need such "smut".
  17. HAM
    HAM 7 March 2021 09: 23
    +1
    Apparently now the economic situation of Ukraine is excellent ....... from all the irons the "former" are broadcasting that they will return the Crimea and the Donbass .... they, like roosters, yell until they get into the soup ..
  18. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O 7 March 2021 09: 23
    +1
    YAO in your hands with your leadership - Horror
  19. Machete
    Machete 7 March 2021 09: 30
    +1
    and if the diggers had dug the Black Sea in another place, away from Russia, then there would not have been a lot of things either.
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 March 2021 09: 36
    +2
    History has no subjunctive mood. If, if only, but mushrooms grew in the mouth, there would be not a mouth, but a whole vegetable garden.
    The former Ukrainian SSR was not lucky with a part of the population, it was necessary to clean up the Banderaites after the Second World War.
    It is necessary for political scientists and historians to study very carefully the life of the Khrushchev family from birth to death, especially since the beginning of the 30s, I think a lot of interesting and unexpected things will be revealed there.
  21. New Year day
    New Year day 7 March 2021 09: 39
    +1
    Here is a lover "if only if only"! If there were the USSR, then the issue of Crimea would not exist, and Turchinov would continue to educate the Komsomol members. But what happened has already happened
  22. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 7 March 2021 09: 40
    0
    Ukrainians, tie your "shaggy grandmother" until another boot arrives on the scoreboard. Better do what you do best - turning any zrada into an enchanting reward! You can even stir up a national holiday: "The Day of Ukraine's deliverance from the accursed Crimean Russian world!" ... Stop nourishing sterile and deadly illusions.
  23. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 7 March 2021 09: 43
    0
    Yes, Ukraine in general could be "the second France" - why should we whine about it now?
  24. KCA
    KCA 7 March 2021 09: 44
    0
    Citizen Turchinov, judging by the statement, does not shine with intelligence, that even from the face it can be seen, he does not know that nuclear warheads tend to degrade, and the charge must be reloaded, are there in / on factories and specialists for this? They never were, all the restoration of charges was carried out only on the territory of the RSFSR, well, there would be charges, and what? The Chernobyl nuclear power plant is not enough, is it necessary to spill U and Pu somewhere else?
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 7 March 2021 10: 29
      0
      does not shine with intelligence, which can be seen even from the face,
      ....... well, the face is not the most important thing, there are beautiful whites but the intelligence of a chicken. but there is like Stephen Hawking. with a face not very much, but what a powerful intellect ... but in the case of the pastor, this is an exception. two in one "nasty mug" with the intellect of a vulture ..
  25. cniza
    cniza 7 March 2021 09: 52
    +2
    Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us


    This was a condition, otherwise you would not have been allowed to try to create a state again, but as it turned out, you could not take advantage of this either ...
  26. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 7 March 2021 10: 02
    0
    How can you lose what you actually did not have, the control center of nuclear weapons of the entire USSR was in Moscow.
  27. Pavel73
    Pavel73 7 March 2021 10: 07
    0
    If Ukraine had nuclear weapons, no "Maidan" would have happened at all. God forbid! And no one would have heard about this asshole Turchinov.
  28. kaban7
    kaban7 7 March 2021 10: 09
    +1
    If only, if only .... ok smelly.
  29. Zaval
    Zaval 7 March 2021 10: 11
    +2
    Renunciation of nuclear weapons and a nuclear-free status of Ukraine was, in general, the condition of the United States for the recognition of the new state of Ukraine. America very much did not want the emergence of a place of one nuclear power, the USSR, a heap of nuclear "principalities", they could not yet be called states, they had yet to become states, and some did not succeed.
    And sir, excuse me, sir, Turchinov has been discussing since 2014 on the topic “what would have happened if” and why “I couldn’t”, who is to blame, according to his version, the question is not - Yanukovych and the pro-Russian forces are to blame.
  30. viktor_47
    viktor_47 7 March 2021 10: 12
    +5
    Ukraine did not have the technology to use the existing nuclear weapons (code systems), or the technology for their disassembly (electromagnetic keys and algorithms for their use), or the technology (and the corresponding industry) to restore them (a nuclear fuse in a thermonuclear weapon breaks down in about 8- 10 years due to radiation swelling of uranium-235 or plutonium-239). Attempts to find appropriate specialists from among the workers of the USSR nuclear industry who ended up in Ukraine after 1991 took place, but they failed to solve the problem, from the word NIKAK. Turchinov is just another illiterate, drowned in the pink snot of his own dreams!
  31. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 7 March 2021 10: 26
    0
    The former Komsomol member, and now the central Banderast, is not good at arithmetic))) the maintenance of a nuclear arsenal is a very expensive pleasure, only the richest can afford it (lawsuit. North Korea).
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  33. gurzuf
    gurzuf 7 March 2021 10: 28
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    So Turchinov on this issue publishes only bunches of himself!

    This is his natural state. Nothing unusual.
  34. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 7 March 2021 10: 31
    +4
    Those. deployment of nuclear weapons in Germany, immediately makes this country nuclear? What could Turchinov say about the storage life and combat readiness of this arsenal? Or does he think that with him, as with a simple saucepan, you can live your whole life? And who and where will serve the charges themselves? No, - he has not yet earned on nuclear weapons. Only on hemp rope.
  35. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 7 March 2021 10: 41
    0
    Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us

    If Ukraine had nuclear weapons now, it is not known what the Russian leadership would have done immediately after Ukraine's statements about declaring Russia an enemy.
  36. 1536
    1536 7 March 2021 10: 46
    +2
    The Lisbon Protocol of 1992 stipulated that Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia and Ukraine are the legal successors of the USSR under the terms of the START-1 Treaty. Also, the protocol stipulated the obligations of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine. get rid of nuclear weapons as soon as possible and join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon states... (see Wikipedia entry "Lisbon Protocol")
    "Ukraine creates difficulties all the time! It goes against international opinion! It blocks important negotiations! We will take action!" - so, according to the then Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine A. Zlenko, shouted the head of the US Foreign Ministry James Baker in Lisbon on May 23, 1992, when signing an addendum to the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START-I). [/ i] (see URL: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/602262.html)
    As the saying goes, "don't fool us, dear editorial board!"
  37. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 March 2021 10: 52
    0
    The further, the more stupid and aggressive the statements of Ukrainian "bosses from the nation" become. Either from impotence, or they will actually conduct a military operation. I have no doubt that our General Staff has prepared plans for any scenario.
  38. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 7 March 2021 10: 54
    0
    Phantasms and miasms ...
  39. Pashuk1601
    Pashuk1601 7 March 2021 11: 31
    0
    "If we had not renounced nuclear weapons" - a monkey with a grenade is not so dangerous.
  40. Maz
    Maz 7 March 2021 11: 32
    0
    Yeah, htozh will give the stoned atomic bombs? Even Americans understand this.
  41. Edvid
    Edvid 7 March 2021 11: 52
    +2
    Quote: Insurgent
    Turchynov: If Ukraine had not given up nuclear weapons, Crimea would have remained with us
    So there you go what And that Kravchuk has not yet been imprisoned, he was the president when the Outskirts lost their nuclear status?
    Ah, well, yes ... In the same place, "partners" from overseas demanded that you disarm (at least in some way you can show gratitude to the Amers) ...

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    The turnip in the photo, not only is stupid, but so far she does not even know the true reason for Ukraine's refusal of nuclear weapons ... After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine did not intend to abandon nuclear weapons, despite the fact that almost all experts in this area were concentrated in the Russian Federation. At the direction of the Ukrainian authorities, nuclear warheads that ended up on its territory were taken to a storage facility. But the lack of appropriate specialists almost led to the second Chernobyl. Nuclear warheads require special storage: special protection, technological requirements for the density of charges in the storage ... Unknowingly, these stringent requirements were not met, which led to the exceeding of criticality conditions and a slow chain process (self-acceleration) began. Outwardly, it looked like a rise in temperature at the storage location ... The staff realized that Chernobyl will repeat itself soon! It was reported to Kravchuk that, despite the late night, he lifted Yeltsin out of bed, and he mobilized all services for an urgent search across the country and the delivery of specialists in order to prevent an impending catastrophe ...
    A possible accident was averted, but the Ukrainian leadership was so scared that it immediately agreed to get rid of nuclear weapons.
  42. alexvmar
    alexvmar 7 March 2021 11: 54
    +5
    If in 1991 three criminals were arrested in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, there would be no such person as Turchinov.
    1. beeper
      beeper 7 March 2021 13: 21
      +2
      Quote: alexvmar
      If in 1991 three criminals were arrested in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, there would be no such person as Turchinov.

      hi Put a Plus for theoretically correct direction of your thoughts. good
      But facts are a stubborn thing, the biography itself (this Sasha was a nomenklatura "Komsomol member" and a "member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union" under the Union, like the same banderonazi people today, his colleague in the Dnipropetrovsk Komsomol elite is the gas Zhulia, with her boyfriend in 2014, who threatened to "shoot Russians from atomic weapons "or Baba Farya, who sadistically mocked" on camera "helpless kindergarten kids with Russian names!) of such" opportunistic werewolves (instantly changing their shoes in a jump "turchinov") "speaks of the opposite, similar adapted" inverts "in Crimea and now there are enough, ready for any "reincarnation" - just to stay at the "helm of power"! request
      So, even if the "Belovezhskaya Trinity" and their "more cautious" - "who did not have time to arrive" Kazakh accomplice were arrested, together with the insidious "Tagged Man's gang", then, a priori, mercantilely unprincipled, "Turchins" would still have adapted, after all, they have "masks", not personalities !!!
    2. Black lotos
      Black lotos 7 March 2021 16: 03
      0
      Quote: alexvmar
      as Turchynov would not exist.

      if he had not been shot then he would have been. He is a party leader.
      And all the party members are now in power in the Russian Federation and Ukraine and others.
  43. nod739
    nod739 7 March 2021 11: 55
    +2
    If Ukraine did not give up ya, it wouldn’t come out of the influence of Russia ... And it would be good for everyone, and the Zeniths would still fly, and Ruslans would rivet and much more ...
  44. Artunis
    Artunis 7 March 2021 12: 15
    +1
    If my grandmother had eggs, she would be a grandfather! A pomegranate in the hands of a monkey, you know not funny.
  45. beeper
    beeper 7 March 2021 12: 23
    +1
    "Chicken ass" does not know what he is talking about! fool
    If the former Ukrainian SSR had not given up, at the insistent demand of Washington, from the Soviet nuclear arsenal that ended up on its territory, the American "hegemons" would not have allowed any separate (quasi "independent") "Ukraine" would establish (however, just as they would not have allowed the establishment of "independent" "Belarus" and "Kazakhstan", from the former union "nuclear" republics, Shushkevich and Nazarbayev)! yes
    US President George W. Bush personally warned about this "condition for the independence of the" small-town "natsionaliznikov-komrenagatov!
    Yes, and Kravchuchok more than once publicly recalled the same Washington ultimatum "condition", why is it that the Bloody "pastor (of the nomenklatura" ideological Komsomol members "who changed their shoes in a jump)" is making himself an "ignorant" ?!
    Yes, and Crimea all these Turchiny, silly maydauny-"myzdobuly", missed because of the "selfless division of portfolios" -inter-party squabble in Kiev!
    They were not up to the Crimea then, each of the "young w / Banderaites" strove to gnaw off more "shmat" for themselves, sharing what they stole by their runaway "papedniks" - senior colleagues in the wrecking of our National Soviet Property!
    Zombified by the "totalitarian" Kholuy mantra "Ameryka z namy!" their self-confident Washington curators did not even think that, for decades oppressed and robbed by "independent" raiders, the Russian majority of the indigenous inhabitants of Crimea would be able to "set off" to sail away (with their "suitcases" and their "station") "to calm kindred" shores (however, as it turned out later, a fresh example in Foros, the "hospitable" RF also has enough of its own raiders, and "those who changed their shoes in the jump-2014 Crimean bureaucrats have by no means abandoned their "Ukrainian habits" ??!) "...?! winked
    IMHO
  46. Caucasian
    Caucasian 7 March 2021 12: 39
    +1
    Then, he would already be in Canada, posing as Karl Philip Gottlieb von Clausewitz. (If he had time to run)
  47. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 March 2021 12: 53
    +2
    The international criminal who unleashed the war - the pastor ukroreiha - chicken ass, in one bottle, must be punished. angry
  48. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 March 2021 13: 22
    0
    The Europeans liked the idea that Russia would pay for the fire that was kindled by the Europeans (the Americans simply took control) and the indigenous stubbornness that led to an economic catastrophe. Several goals were achieved at once. First, Ukraine will continue its "path to Europe", enriching European industrialists already at the expense of Russian injections. Secondly, the additional weight on Russia's legs will certainly not be superfluous. On the contrary, the obstinacy of these Russians may diminish. And finally, thirdly, by the very fact of financing Ukraine, Russia admits its guilt for everything that happens on its territory, thereby confirming the political correctness of Europe in the aspect of imposing sanctions. The Ukraine 2.0 project did not take place and will never take place. Pan-Ukrainian dreamers need to listen more closely to Putin and Lavrov and read articles by iconic Russian political analysts and experts at their leisure, and not listen to the ravings of all kinds of Ukrainian directors of institutes and expert agencies consisting of one rented office. laughing
  49. denk20
    denk20 7 March 2021 14: 08
    0
    And nuclear weapons are also worth UAH 270. was he going to contain?
  50. Black lotos
    Black lotos 7 March 2021 16: 17
    0
    The topic of the presence / refusal of nuclear weapons under guarantees is still troubling the minds of Ukrainian citizens after 2014.
    Prior to that, the guarantors of BM were pretty good, in general, they helped in a conflict situation (Tuzla, gas wars). But purely diplomatically.
    Ukraine could not save nuclear weapons in any way. Only if it became the second DPRK. But who would give the second North Korea in the center of Europe ...
    Physically, Ukraine had nuclear weapons, but all management was in Moscow. That is, a purely place of content, without the possibility of using it. All countries have organized such pressure for the young republic, that there is no chance. No experience, no money, no opportunity to confront all the leading countries (USA, World Bank, France, Russia). So the choice was between isolation and the incomprehensible consequences of the containment of nuclear weapons, which would end with the introduction of a united contingent into a poor country to avoid a major catastrophe. Either the existence of a country with blackmail (but everything would have ended with the introduction of troops)
    The only possible way is to transfer it under strict guarantees + financial means + granting statuses of economic benefits (EU / NATO membership, lifting the sanctions against the USSR on Ukraine, etc.). What was done was bad. But the afterbirth is good. Someone tried to take the place of Kravchuk himself. Although his military was much harder in terms of conditions. But politicians are not military.
    In general, in the conditions of those and the complete absence of state experience, funds and unprecedented US pressure on Ukraine and the Russian Federation, nothing could be done.
    And to stir up the past, if only ... It is possible only in an alternative world.
    More than one generation has grown up, which did not see the mess of that time. But the mention of the presence of nuclear weapons for some reason is remembered as a superweapon against all ills.
    It is also good that under the guarantees of the WB, they help Ukraine at least somehow. Could generally say, sorry, we only gave "assurances" even though you have written "guarantees" in Russian. These are your difficulties in translation - we are not in business.