Adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine: Russia will not use military aircraft in Donbass

In Ukraine, there was an interview with the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Valeriy Potseluyko, in which issues of Ukrainian "integrity" and security were raised. According to Potseluyko, Kiev has a strategy to "de-occupy" the territories of Donbass, which the Ministry of Internal Affairs is "ready to implement."

According to the adviser Arsen Avakov, the Interior Ministry is ready to "liberate Donbass".

Valery Potseuiko:

For this, only one thing is needed - an appropriate decision of the country's top leadership.

According to the adviser to the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs, "important steps have already been taken." Mr. Potseluiko called such steps the closure of the channels, which, according to Kiev, were controlled by Viktor Medvedchuk, the leader of the political movement Opposition Platform - For Life. This political movement some time ago came out on top in the country in terms of the level of approval from the citizens of Ukraine.

Kiss said that "the response to the closure of TV channels may be an aggravation in the war." At the same time, Avakov's advisor claims that this aggravation "can be carried out by Russia." According to him, "while there (in the Donbass) it is quite difficult to conduct hostilities":

The fields need to be dry. We are ready not only for an aggravation, but even for a full-fledged invasion, and it will be crushing for Russia.

During the interview, Kissuiko was asked whether Kiev is ready for the fact that “Russia will use its military Aviation».

Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs:

Russia will not use combat aircraft.

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Then Kiss explained why this will not happen:

Because they always say, "They are not there." And we have our own aviation, plus support from the West. Believe me, if something happens, the answer will be equal.

As a result, Kissuiko added that a decision by President Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada is needed to "return Donbass".

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[Insurgent]

Adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine: Russia will not use military aircraft in Donbass

It won't, and it won't give you.



One of the best Russian radars for combating drones and stealth targets has been spotted in service with the LPR.

The OSCE observation mission noticed one of the best Russian radars for detecting subtle and low-altitude targets deployed in the area of ​​the settlement of Bugaevka, the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic. We are talking about the Kasta-2E1 radar - previously, such weapons were not noticed by the LPR forces, which does not exclude the supply of this radar station from the territory of Russia.

The Kasta-2E radar has successfully proved itself in Syria and Libya - it is thanks to the latter that the forces of the Libyan National Army and the SAA managed to successfully shoot down the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 attack reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles.

[mark1]

Quote: Insurgent

It won't, and it won't give you.

And if it does, you won't carry it away ...

[Proxima]

The experience of using the aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the 14th and 15th years was deplorable. The militias practically knocked her out. We remember that even transport workers stuffed with a landing force were shot down. Now, according to the Ukrainian "expert", what has changed?

[Egoza]

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

Opoochentsy knocked out? Air defense miners? # are they out?

Don't you know that some of the military went over to the side of Donbass? And that former soldiers do not forget everything at once either. Moreover, the technique is familiar. So Alas! BUT THERE WERE REALLY NOT THERE! It's a pity! Now would not be fooled with these unfinished Nazis.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

Opoochentsy knocked out? Air defense miners? # are they out?

But who cares who, now there are several hundred thousand citizens of the Russian Federation in Donbass, so aviation, and not only, will enter there on a completely legal basis.

[fruc]

In the event of an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, it is not necessary to enter the territory of the LPNR. You can hit from the territory of adjacent regions of the Russian Federation both in squares and pointwise.

[Uralean]

So Russian Aviation will not enter Donbass, it will fly into it. In the circle of Ukraine there are air regiments in Yeisk, Krasnodar, Crimea, Voronezh in the Rostov region, both assault aviation and fighter aviation, and helicopter regiments. based on their home airfields. Approach time - minutes. I'm just taking about the aviation of the Russian Federation. Not to mention the tactical missile systems, which have long since taken targets, as in Ukraine, the borders between the LPR and Ukraine, marked the location of all Ukrainian strike units, fuel depots, ammunition depots and life support units. It has long been marked on Russian maps, all the points of accumulation of large and medium-sized Vinny units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, their coordinates and the time of approach of the strike on them. The number and power of ammunition and delivery vehicles to suppress the activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The troops are just waiting for an order from the Commander of the Southern Federal District, and the command of the army group of the Russian Federation, to suppress the army groupings of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in the event of their aggression on the LDNR by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[DED_peer_DED]

Lost the city of Krymsk, Krasnodar Territory.

Krymsk airbase (military unit 75386)

[fruc]

South RF - Krasnodar Territory, Rostov Region, Volgograd Region, Crimea are packed with combat aircraft for various purposes.

[RUSS]

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

Opoochentsy knocked out? Air defense miners? # are they out?

Yes, the miners dug up air defense equipment in their mines, and the instructions for their operation were downloaded on the Internet.

[Ros 56]

Turn on your brains, except for the miners in Donbass there is no one else?

[Terenin]

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

Opoochentsy knocked out? Air defense miners? # are they out?

Well, why, Gregul, did the lafa end from unanswered shooting?
Today we received otvetki on the ears in the settlements of Peski, Marinka and Pavlopol, as well as near Vodyanoye and the settlement of Opytnoe!
Still want to shoot?

[MstislavHrabr]

There were those who took the USSR oath to defend their people! And they did it with honor! The backbone of the LDNR army was made up of fighters who were over 45 years old ... Long discharged from the ranks of the army, but having experience of war in hot spots behind them ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

Opoochentsy knocked out? Air defense miners? # are they out?

Tryndet is not to unload wagons. Is there evidence to the contrary? Or, again, the batteries in the mobiles are dead? As long as you only have this.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

Air defense miners?

These are not miners, experts in air defense, this is the level of the Ukrainian Air Force.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Proxima

The experience of using the aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the 14th and 15th years was deplorable. The militias practically knocked her out. We remember that even transport workers stuffed with a landing force were shot down. Now, according to the Ukrainian "expert", what has changed?

Well, ukro-expert obviously hints that Russia will be afraid of aviation losses from the actions of the air defense of the ukroverrmacht, and in such a simple way they are trying to demonstrate their "mits", inspiring and encouraging themselves.

As for the IL-76 (told them - do not fly, nefig), then such a target, which entered the runway at the Lugansk airport, could have been shot down with anything, but how and what June 6 over Slavyansk, at a height unattainable for MANPADS An-30 reconnaissance aircraft was shot down, which was adjusting artillery and mortar fire - this is a question

[qQQQ]

Quote: Insurgent

An-30 reconnaissance aircraft was shot down, which was adjusting artillery and mortar fire

Ukraine seems to have voiced the figure of 6-7 km, but they could say that to prove our presence, but in fact it could well fly in the region of 4 km, the declared range of the Needle is 5 km, the Verba is more, well, this is a declared that is, and if they were shooting practically from under the plane, then it would be enough.

[Insurgent]

Quote: qqqq

Willow for more, well, after all, this is declared, there is some reserve, and if they were shooting practically from under the plane, then it would be enough.

Exactly It was about "Verba" - then just beginning to enter the Southern Military District, dill and started talking, or rather howled

After all, they were shooting from MANPADS

[Crimean partisan 1974]

but how and what on June 6 over Slavyansk, at an altitude unattainable for MANPADS

... MANPADS and most likely Needle - a direct hit into the engine --- Willow and Needle-1 strike on approach, destroying the structure, Arrows and Needles exactly into the heat source. 4 km are quite within reach, judging by the video, the flight altitude was about 2500-3000 meters ...

[venik]

Quote: Insurgent

but how and what on June 6 over Slavyansk, at an altitude unattainable for MANPADS, an An-30 reconnaissance aircraft was shot down, which was adjusting artillery and mortar fire - this is a question

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What is the question here? An-30B flew at an altitude of approx. 3 km. This is well within the reach of Igla-S MANPADS, not to mention Verba!

[Insurgent]

Quote: venik

What is the question here? An-30B flew at an altitude of approx. 3 km. This is well within the reach of Igla-S MANPADS, not to mention Verba!

Question ,question just concerning "Willow".

Dill often lie, but not this time ...

The Ukrainian military claims that the An-30 plane was recently shot down and was shot down by 9K333 Verba MANPADS. The plane was shot down at an altitude of 4 km. The standard Igla MANPADS has a maximum defeat height of 3.500 m.

https://is2006.livejournal.com/1423418.html

[venik]

Quote: Insurgent

The question is yes, the question yes is just about "Willow".

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Well, this is not a question! Moreover - not a mystery at all!
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Quote: Insurgent

Dill often lie, but not this time ...

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I don't even doubt it! "Willow" - WAS! And not only "Willow"! It was, in essence, the "baptism of fire" of the complex ... But it will be necessary - and something more serious will appear !!!

[stas Sv]

reconnaissance aircraft An-30, which carried out the adjustment of artillery and mortar fire - this is a question

I'll tell you this, we still have the question of why it was shot down. Many on the outskirts come to the conclusion that the P-27 was shot down from the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as the An-26.
The opinion is not mine.

[businessv]

Quote: Proxima

Now, according to the Ukrainian "expert", what has changed?

Well, you have found an "expert" - Avakyan's advisor! There are totally clinical cases!

[mojohed2012]

That is why Ukraine is calling on NATO and the United States to "patrol the Crimea and the LPNR" from the air ...
And the USA and NATa are not fools ... They drive stubborn vassals ahead with meat ...
This is ISIS, various barmaley, Muslim brothers and other National Battalions ...

[figwam]

Quote: mark1

And if it does, you won't carry it away.

All this Bandera aviation, airfields, bases and rear support units of the outskirts will be destroyed in the first hours of the war, for this there are missiles, and then frying in boilers bringing in peacekeepers and reaching the western border.

[sawic1]

Do we need it ?, It's enough to get to the Dnieper, this is the ideal NATO plan, to pit us against each other, and so that we can then seize Ukraine and integrate it, spending resources, paying its debts, etc.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

This Bandera member with the beautiful surname Kissyko intimidates-threatens-warns Russia not to use aircraft when they try to capture Donbass with a blitzkrieg.

And the decision to "liberate Donbass" seems to have been made long ago and the order has been given. NOT Zelensky, of course, but via him. As it dries up, it will begin soon. Banderovets speaks correctly. Unless the Americans change their minds and postpone, they will not decide to play around.

[antivirus]

nothing terrible will happen if the district police officers from Zhmerinka control the planes? - and I think so

[stas Sv]

By the way, do not erase Ozernoye and Mirgorod into dust. There are a lot of decent instructors there. Our Sovdepov issue. They teach young people, but the fact that Vava is in their heads is another story ...

[Victor_B]

Something this this Casta is one to one, my dear P-15 ...
The antenna is exactly the same.
Only the "wings" fold in half.
And it's on a separate machine.
The range is decimeter, that's for sure!

[Victor_B]

P-15

[gjkrjdybr50]

If I am not mistaken, these are P-19, P-15 in one car and a trailer with Ab-8.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Victor_B

Something this this Casta is one to one, my dear P-15 ...
The antenna is exactly the same.
Only the "wings" fold in half.
And it's on a separate machine.
The range is decimeter, that's for sure!

I looked, there is still such an option - "Casta 2-2"

It seems that it is she who is in the OSCE photo.

[venik]

Quote: Insurgent

I looked, there is still such an option - "Casta 2-2"

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Actually, "Casta" is a whole family Radar stations of constant duty, in which "legs grow" from the very successful P-15 and P-19!

[venik]

Quote: Victor_B

Something this this Casta is one to one, my dear P-15 ...
The antenna is exactly the same.

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Well, to be absolutely precise, it is more likely the P-19, which was created on the basis of the P-15! Only on a new element base and, accordingly, with new capabilities!
PS "...There is nothing new under the sun... "(N.M. Karamzin)

[user1212]

Did they cover it with a rag so that it was more noticeable from the air? And then you never know, suddenly the OSCE drone gets lost and does not notice

[Insurgent]

Quote: user1212

Did they cover it with a rag so that it was more noticeable from the air? And then you never know, suddenly the OSCE drone gets lost and does not notice

This is trolling, mockery

[Thrifty]

Instrugent - "in the eastern bazaar for inexpensive" they bought the KASTA 2E radar, or alternatively, God sent !

[Insurgent]

Quote: Thrifty

Instrugent - "in the eastern bazaar for inexpensive" they bought the KASTA 2E radar, or alternatively, God sent !

God is not Timoshka, he sees a little

[Alex Justice]

Instrugent - "in the eastern bazaar for inexpensive" they bought the KASTA 2E radar, laughing or, as an option, God sent good!

Where did you get the rocket?
In the nightstand
And who put it in the nightstand?
Я
Where did you get it?
I told you, in the nightstand :)

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Insurgent

Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine:

The advisor of the fagot Avakov with the surname Kissyko talks about the crushing of Russia!

[Insurgent]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

The advisor of the fagot Avakov with the surname Kissyko talks about the crushing of Russia!

Donbass about Avakov and ukrovlade. March 2014, seven years ago. Even then, everything was said. They didn't understand ...

[Baloo]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

Quote: Insurgent

Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine:

The advisor of the fagot Avakov with the surname Kissyko talks about the crushing of Russia!

Kiss has such a job

[businessv]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

Advisor to the fagot Avakov with the surname Poseluyko

To be precise, not Avakov, but Avakyan

[venik]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

The advisor of the fagot Avakov with the surname Kissyko talks about the crushing of Russia!

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Yes! He has a funny surname! The question immediately arises: Kiss to WHAT?

[Terenin]

According to the adviser to the head of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry, "important steps have already been taken." Mr. Kissyko called these steps

... a barefoot race from Kiev to Lviv and back, the entire leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Terenin

... a barefoot race from Kiev to Lviv and back, the entire leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.

Kind you, why not all the drugs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs serving the junta?

[Terenin]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: Terenin

... a barefoot race from Kiev to Lviv and back, the entire leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.

Kind you, why not all the drugs of the Ministry of Internal Affairs serving the junta?

The leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is running, according to them

important steps

and the personnel

Quote: Insurgent

Ministry of Internal Affairs junta employee

jogging and racing

[TerraSandera]

Unfortunately, this can be useful against drones, with low-intensity OBDs. With a quick and massive attack, in several directions, they can really use aviation, and these radars will be a tasty target. Since there is no full-fledged air defense (I still hope there is), it is also light. arrows and MANPADS are still not the same level. It is necessary to prepare for a new war, and not to live with the illusions of the old one. They did not prepare for it in Karabakh. The result is disastrous. Even if they do not decide to risk aviation, a point can fly there. Well, or a package of MLRS, if the range allows, although this is, of course, from a cannon at sparrows.
But in the absence of these radars, and other possible ones, the LDPR columns will be defenseless. But I am still skeptical about the attack this spring. I think it's just pouting and threats. In a real attack, so much noise will not be raised. Well, at least they will wait for the supply of TB2_ to train operators (although Turkish "they are not there" may also operate here).

[Insurgent]

Quote: TerraSandera

Unfortunately, this can be useful against drones with low-intensity OBDs. With a quick and massive attack, in several directions, they can really use aviation, and these radars will be a tasty target. Since there is no full-fledged air defense (I still hope there is), it is also light. arrows and MANPADS are still not the same level. It is necessary to prepare for a new war, and not to live with the illusions of the old one. They did not prepare for it in Karabakh.

What if not preparation element - the appearance of these radars? And this is what the OSCE was only allowed to discover, sure on purpose so that the chakras of the dill open up and no longer collapse ...

[TerraSandera]

Were they allowed to detect OSCE people? I doubt that they are the main "informant" of the other side. It's more for us, the masses, for the media. And what is and is not both there and there they know. After all, an invisible eye constantly flies over our heads. Also a kind of drones. H

[stas Sv]

Here is a site for you, they fly almost every day. LDNR in priority + Crimea + Sochi
http://planeradar.ru/VirtualRadar/desktop.html

[Artunis]

And it will not give to the banderlog, but as soon as these bucket-heads have gone on the offensive, it's time to end all this Nazi scum. To expel everyone who is not finished off on the front line to Lviv region, at the same time to move to the border with Moldova and finally solve the issue with Transnistria and make the Sea of ​​Azov a completely inland reservoir for fishing. TIRED.

[Victor_B]

Adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine: Russia will not use military aircraft in Donbass

How does he know this?
Did you subtract on your Internet? (from)

[Pessimist22]

It's just that the "North Wind" will blow everyone to Kiev and that's it.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Pessimist22

to Kiev and that's it.

Fuck, he gave up!
New Russia is without Kiev.
But with Odessa!
And Ukraine will become a great land power!

[Alex Nevs]

in two farms

[bar]

According to the adviser Arsen Avakov, the Interior Ministry is ready to "liberate Donbass".

The Armed Forces are not ready, but the Ministry of Internal Affairs is ready. Epic balabolas

[Piramidon]

Quote: bar

The Armed Forces are not ready, but the Ministry of Internal Affairs is ready.

Their cops are very harsh, especially the "gaytsy".

[Cat]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are not ready, but the Ministry of Internal Affairs is ready

very harsh

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This is reported by "LGBT Military and Our Allies" on its Facebook page.

So, representatives of LGBT + and people tolerant to them are invited to join one of the motorized infantry units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It also clarifies that identity and division will remain secret. The unit to which they are invited will in the future carry out tasks on the contact line, but before that you need to go through an interview with the commander and train, get state certification.

https://strana.ua/news/321452-predstaviteli-lhbt-formirujut-vzvod-v-vsu-i-prihlashajut-podpisat-kontrakt.html

[rotmistr60]

We are ready not only for an exacerbation, but even to a full-fledged invasion, and it will be crushing for Russia.

Let's just pull up the pants, look around and feel the shoulder of the "ally". But the "ally" does not even plan to fight for you. For whom the invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be crushing to them, and so it is clear, but you can't get away from show-offs, tk. and abroad will read the interview. Already tired of the chatter to the public of all this Bandera scum. Probably, the time has come to make a decision on Donbass for our leadership and cardinal decisions.

[bar]

There is some truth in this. They are ready for an invasion, they will not even resist. And the crushing thing for Russia will be that they will then have to be fed.

[svp67]

Because they always say, "They are not there."

This is what he heard, but what Putin is increasingly declaring that Russia will never leave the republic of Donbass does not want to hear?

[edmed]

Quote: svp67

Putin increasingly declares that Russia will never abandon the republics of Donbass

In fact, he said a lot of things, only it turned out the other way around, another clerk would come, and the rhetoric would change.

[edmed]

Quote: edmed

-5
Quote: svp67
Putin increasingly declares that Russia will never abandon the republics of Donbass

In fact, he said a lot of things, only it turned out the other way around, another clerk would come, and the rhetoric would change.

Well, they threw in the "sleepers", but on the topic to argue weakly?

[Alex Nevs]

What about? threw? Gumkonovoy. Seven !!!! SEVEN !!! sluggish drummer boilers. Do not bomb - it is Huge. Or do you want something different?

[edmed]

Quote: Alex Nevs

What about? threw? Gumkonovoy. Seven !!!! SEVEN !!! sluggish drummer boilers. Do not bomb - it is Huge. Or do you want something different?

Gumkonvoys, 7 boilers, I understand the policy is a delicate thing, it could not have done without our participation, but why take the rarefaction from the Federation Council in order to drain it, such as scare the "ukrov" with our invasion and they will subside, yeah, behind them, the EU, NATO, the USA, if are going to beat so beat, no, well, there is no need to inflate the goiter.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Alex Nevs

Seven !!!! SEVEN !!! sluggish waltzman boilers.

I understand that the number SEVEN occupies a special place in Russian cultural studies, but I, for example, do not know about so many "boilers" where they drove the dill

Perhaps there is something I do not know, or some facts eluded me? If it's not difficult for you, please list seven operations of the DPR and LPR militia, during which we encircled the Armed Forces of Ukraine so many times.

[Alex Nevs]

https://peremogi.livejournal.com/18191173.html как то так. Видео Парада в Донецке с поливалками в ютубе тоже есть.Все кукуевские преступники хотели парад в Севастополе-получили в Донецке.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Alex Nevs

https://peremogi.livejournal.com/18191173.html как то так. Видео Парада в Донецке с поливалками в ютубе тоже есть.Все кукуевские преступники хотели парад в Севастополе-получили в Донецке.

M ... m ... hmm ... Get data about the progress of the database from the blog ...

THREE, and that's the MAXIMUM.


Izvarino, Ilovaisk, Debaltsevo.

[Alex Nevs]

from the blog, yes. The entire Internet is solid blogs. A head to help. On the garbage Internet, you need a head, without a head you will only have to jump, because the castrun will be pulled as fast as you run - and then there are jumps, coups, burned constitutions ... and complete chaos. And in fact, a small pot is a boiler or not, there is certainly a reason to pull the owl on .... In order, Donetsk Airport-boiler (pot) or not?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Alex Nevs

from the blog, yes. The entire Internet is solid blogs. A head to help. On the garbage Internet, you need a head, without a head you will only have to jump, because the castrun will be pulled as fast as you run - and then there are jumps, coups, burned constitutions ... and complete chaos. And in fact, a small pot is a boiler or not, there is certainly a reason to pull the owl on .... In order, Donetsk Airport-boiler (pot) or not?

Well yes ,well yes , you know from the Internet much more than mine

And if TWO dill "squeezed" in the dugout, is it like a "pot"? BUT ?

[Alex Nevs]

from ukrresursa-Dyakovo boiler? or ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Alex Nevs

from ukrresursa-Dyakovo boiler? or ...

Dyakovo? OR
Dyakovo, and the strip in the border area, to which the enemy grouping was pressed, we called the "corridor" or "Southern corridor", because we could not, due to lack of forces, cut the supply routes of enemy units, and the actions of our forces were reduced to periodic fire raids on convoys, actions of DRGs and sappers in this zone.
Speech about any "boiler" can not be conducted.

[businessv]

Quote: edmed

Actually, he said a lot.

This is a fact, moreover, concerning key issues - the retirement age, for example, the country's development program for 2020 and a bunch of other statements! I plus.

[Borz]

Would you like a no-fly zone, sir adviser? There are all the technical possibilities for this, this option has probably been worked out. Even in 2014, the militias regularly "landed" Ukrainian aircraft (I can't name them otherwise), sometimes 2 a day.

[Turist1996]

"Western support"
Yes, yes .. The tie-expert also hoped for the same. It is known how it ended.

[URAL72]

Why do we need Tbilisi? To feed all of Georgia? And Putin was trying to avoid unnecessary losses. At both sides. Even the euro commission was surprised - the destruction turned out to be much less than the rodents squealed. Times are different. There is no need to seize territory; power must be brought to its knees. As the Americans did both in Georgia and in your Ukropithekia.

[Terenin]

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

It is known. They made noise on the border, went to the capital

Note, we only made some noise, and you chewed all the ties.

[Baloo]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

It is known. They made noise on the border, went to the capital

Note, we only made some noise, and you chewed all the ties.

They did not enter Tbilisi, they simply killed the infrastructure. And then it would be difficult to break through the crowds of proud Georgians galloping to Tiflis.

[Terenin]

Quote: Balu

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Dmitry Gregul

It is known. They made noise on the border, went to the capital

Note, we only made some noise, and you chewed all the ties.

They did not enter Tbilisi, they simply killed the infrastructure. And then it would be difficult to break through the crowds of proud Georgians galloping to Tiflis.

The battle did not last long: timid Georgians fled! M. Yu. Lermontov. "Demon".
This is how two lines from a poem by a famous Russian poet of the XNUMXth century can describe the Armed conflict in South Ossetia, otherwise called the Five-Day War, from the moment Russia began an operation to force Georgia to peace.

[Incvizitor]

But how they danced
https://vk.com/video168547586_456243650

[7,62x54]

There will be no aviation. Let's get by with "Cheburashki".

[Baloo]

Quote: 7,62x54

There will be no aviation. Let's get by with "Cheburashki".

Moreover, there is still a secret weapon of the Cracodilators-G

[Lech from Android.]

We are ready not only for an aggravation, but even for a full-fledged invasion, and it will be crushing for Russia.

What did not understand ... where Avakov was going to invade ... chtoli into Russia?

[Alex Nevs]

unconventional avakov - he is so like a waltzman - puff up your cheeks and bubble into a puddle.

[common man]

I wonder if all these "figures" make deductions to the heirs of Ostap Bender, for the use of "intellectual property", the sacramental phrase - "THE ABROAD WILL HELP US"?

[tralflot1832]

Another virus of exclusivity struck the brain. Also to indicate that according to his military science, the enemy should not use aircraft. If he bothers yet and not then use. Let him study the map of bomb attacks 08 08 08.

[Thrifty]

This polezhikas is nonsense, Europe does not burn to fit into the war. There, too, there are enough smart ones, they understand that the masses of refugees have poured into the European Union, and along with them the nationalists, who will begin to massively cashmarize the EU countries. ...

[Kapkan]

Boilers await fascists ...

[evgen1221]

The Ministry of Internal Affairs, SVU, I’m lying fighting hamsters-who just didn’t express readiness to release, according to the authorities, 404. And they all disappeared into the fog. Who will be next? Will battle dolphins be called?))))

[iouris]

"In Russia, we are used to chatting a lot. In the end, we have what we have" (Staff Captain Ovechkin)

[Insurgent]

Quote: iouris

"In Russia, we are used to chatting a lot. In the end, we have what we have" (Staff Captain Ovechkin)

Tell me, what side of the statement about Russia - "attach" to the now discussed statement of the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Outskirts, Kiss?

[iouris]

Outskirts of what? Outskirts of Russia.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

In an article on RIA-Novosti I read a brilliant expression.
"NATO wants to have Ukraine as a member"

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

In an article on RIA-Novosti I read a brilliant expression.
"NATO wants to have Ukraine as a member"

There is an equally interesting picture on a similar topic.

[Ros 56]

The most interesting thing is that it has and how.

[Baloo]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

In an article on RIA-Novosti I read a brilliant expression.
"NATO wants to have Ukraine as a member"

From Kiev, too, every day to the whole world stupidly mumbled: Ukraine wants and will join NATO.

[Zaurbek]

Without aviation, Ukrovoisk will crush the DPR and LPR.

[iouris]

Fall asleep. On the other hand, since the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine does not "liberate", then Avakov is not sure that aviation will not be used. On the third hand, no one knows what will happen if ... Our business is veal.

[Zaurbek]

And taking into account the Bayraktar, Ukraine will have air support and adjusting artillery fire.

[Dimide]

Yes, propaganda can do anything, and bring Medvedchuk to the first place in the rankings with the HLS.
The only thing that was forgotten is that Boyko from the HLS has a much higher personal rating.

[Ros 56]

But Medvedchuk has Putin as godfathers.

[Dimide]

As a person interested in politics, I watch with a smile the body movements of some forces in attempts to nominate Medvedchuk to the first roles in the HLS, I don’t know what he promised to a godfather, but with such an anti-rating on the project, you can put an end to it and no money injections (in vain) will help

[vel1163]

"The West will help us" I already heard it somewhere.

[Incvizitor]

Yes, quite recently among the Armenians.

[iouris]

The West will help everyone.

[Andrey1966]

Prepare for a full-scale attack and train them to think as something taken for granted, common. And that Russia will inevitably stand up.

[Ros 56]

And why should we use aviation THERE, it will fly over our territory, and what will be thrown off the planes will fly where it should be, the missiles will have enough range. Not like in the last century, bombing what is under you.

Py. Sy. And also keep in mind that there is something that travels on the ground, and on them there is something that flies very far. So our technique doesn't even need to cross the border.

[Zaurbek]

Will not be enough.....

[Ros 56]

Naive, for barmaleev in Syria and that's enough.

[Zaurbek]

Aviation flies over the barmaley and hammers with cast iron

[sharp-lad]

It's cheaper this way. When it was necessary to check the "long hand", they did it.

[Zaurbek]

There is a combined arms battle, not the destruction of objects

[sharp-lad]

The Syrians are engaged in combined arms, the Aerospace Forces only supports them with a light, moreover, outside the boundaries of settlements.

[boris epstein]

Uh-huh. Some objects flew from the Caspian along tricky trajectories with a bend around the terrain at a distance of 2800 km and hit right on target.

[Zaurbek]

That which flew from the Caspian is not for shooting at tanks and infantry

[Kapkan]

It is necessary to resolve the issue with Ukraine while they have a president playing a member of the piano.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Zaurbek

Without aviation, Ukrovoisk will crush the DPR and LPR.

Russia WILL NOT just watch

[Zaurbek]

This grandmother said for two .... such participation, as it was already not enough. Or more sacrifices will be required. And among the green people and volunteers too. There are already more ATGMs on both sides than tanks.

[Ros 56]

ATGM must be used, so to speak visually. And Tosochka, she and from the hole, well, very large or because of the forest, will get the Banderlog, like the Grad, this is already clear and do not go to the grandmother.

[Zaurbek]

Tosochka is not a panacea. Any battery over 122mm will still shoot.

[Ros 56]

In principle, I agree, but the projectile will hit or not, the spread is however. And a tossa on the site and you will hide yourself.
For information: However, the affected area as a result of a salvo of 220 mm thermobaric ammunition is very significant and can reach up to 2 square meters. km. When it explodes at the target, the projectile sprays a combustible mixture in the air, which, when ignited, burns out oxygen. The pressure in the area of ​​the explosion first rises sharply, and then falls below atmospheric by 160 millimeters of mercury, a living organism has no chance of surviving. In terms of the impact power, a salvo of thermobaric ammunition is comparable to an ultra-small tactical nuclear weapon, but without the radiation component of destruction.

Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/zhguchaya-tosochka-podruga-buratino.html
naukatehnika.com

[Zaurbek]

In counter battery combat, the howitzer will shoot

[boris epstein]

Has Ukraine already started production of 122-mm and 152-mm artillery shells? As of yesterday, it was not there, and those that remained in warehouses from the Soviet era or were sold by the generals on the sly (And the fifth I secretly changed from my dad for these pants-Popandopulo, "Wedding in Malinovka") or blew up along with the warehouses: Artyomovsk, Novobogdanovka (three times), Svatovo, Balakleya (twice), Malinovka, Lozovaya, Ichnya ...

[Zaurbek]

There is always the Czech Republic and Bulgaria. Brothers will help

[boris epstein]

The article "The special forces of the Southern Military District received the Sobolyatnik radar and the Fara reconnaissance station"
At a distance of 30 km, he perfectly sees not only military equipment, but also biological objects. So all are playable with ATGMs. will be grounded together with the "toys" long before the tanks approach.

[Zaurbek]

So on the other side, American counter-battery radars ... and the same Zoos.

[prior]

"Russia will not use combat aircraft in Donbass"

This is correctly noted by the adviser. Russian people live on the territory of Donbass temporarily occupied by Ukraine.
It is not Donbass that needs to be bombed, but Bankovskaya and Grushevsky.

[Zaurbek]

It will be necessary to bomb accumulations of armored vehicles and positions of artillery and air defense BukM1 it seems. And this cannot be done imperceptibly.

[prior]

If not for Hitler, maybe there would not have been World War II.
There will be no Zelensky with his Bandera clique, maybe the Ukrainian artillery and air defense will not have to shoot ... Are there really so many among the army who want to go behind a clown ?!
And this should be done as noticeably as possible, so that in Europe for another 70 years, no one would even think of barking in the direction of Russia.

[Ros 56]

That you have been so modest, for 270 years, I understand that, and maybe even more.

[SIT]

Zelensky puppet. 60% of Ukraine's GDP is external borrowing from the IMF. There are no new tranches and no Ukraine. Therefore, what to do in Ukraine is decided in the White House, and there is now Joe Biden who ruled over the phone under Obama. If the United States wants to stir up another intensification of controlled chaos in the Middle East, then Ukraine will be instructed to make sure that Russia has no time for Syria. This can only be done in Donbass, because Crimea disappears because even a simple salvo of everything that is only in Sevastopol will immediately lead to the absence of the Navy and Air Force in Ukraine completely.

[rocket757]

Another strategist ... strategizes, and even hopes for "allies" or big brother.
Nothing, because there is nothing new, nothing to discuss.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Zaurbek

Without aviation, Ukrovoisk will crush the DPR and LPR.

And then there will be a session of the visiting military tribunal with the gallows.

[Zaurbek]

You can't do without her. It matters whose tribunal and whose gallows

[sheet]

aggravation "can be carried out by Russia."

The fields need to dry

For a year they dry up, then ears grow, but Russia does not come and build up everything.

[kit88]

And we have our own aviation, plus support from the West.

I have already heard this somewhere.
Is it in Crimea in 2014?

[Prisoner]

"And we have our own aviation, plus support from the West." Mishiko also "had" support, so what? I will not say anything about your aviation and everything is clear.

[AML]

Quote: prior

If not for Hitler, maybe there would not have been World War II.

If there was no Hitler, there would be someone else. Germany after the First World War was put in such an elbow position, which is especially without options. World War II was a matter of time.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Zaurbek

This grandmother said for two .... such participation, as it was already not enough. Or more sacrifices will be required. And among the green people and volunteers too. There are already more ATGMs on both sides than tanks.

Heh you are a backward person, it is enough to reset them economically by stopping to begin with by blocking their access from energy to fuels and lubricants, well, they will buy fuels and lubricants somewhere else. The question is, is there enough money?

[Zaurbek]

Firstly, this has not been done, secondly, it can help .......

[boris epstein]

Already done. Sir, you are behind the times. After Zelensky signed a decision on the nationalization of a section of the Russian product pipeline passing through Ukraine, pumping along it was stopped.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Zaurbek

Firstly, this has not been done, secondly, it can help .......

They will do it when needed

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Zaurbek

You can't do without her. It matters whose tribunal and whose gallows

Let's start with you do you work in the sbu on a bet or half?

[Zaurbek]

Not you, you ...... Gena ..!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Zaurbek

Tosochka is not a panacea. Any battery over 122mm will still shoot.

A caliber or a dagger in the forehead?

[Zaurbek]

From them the shanks remain ...

[knn121121]

dreaming is so cheap

[stels_07]

In the next Donbass war, Putin will act more decisively, there are many fellow citizens there, and only by winning can he maintain his rating in Russia.

[iouris]

Quote: stels_07

only a victory can maintain its rating in Russia.

If there is no rating, there will be no Russia?

[stels_07]

Not a specific question

[wow]

Especially touches "... plus support from the West ...". Well, just like Ostap Ibragimovich: "... take heart - the west will help us ...". To me, too, "the union of the sword and the shafts"!

[Ilya Aksyonov]

During the first two days, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will try to break the resistance of the DPR and LPR, and over the next week, Russian troops will reach Lviv and Ukraine, as a state will not, because Russia will protect Russian citizens, wherever and however you want.
For everything from ten days to two weeks.
Well, and then sanctions, howls and hysterics of the EU and the US, but none of them will dare to take military action.
Nord Stream 2 will be frozen until next winter, when frosts hit. And then they will tearfully ask to complete it, and it seems that the United States will fall apart into separate states by the end of this year.
All Ukrainian nationalists are hanged on poles by neighbors in the house, along the entrance and down the street during the first days even before the arrival of the Russian army, as in their time all traitors and enemies were hanged in Odessa.
At the first transitional stage, power in Ukraine will be transferred to the opposition headed by Medvedchuk, and then elections and referendums will be held on joining Russia in the regions of Ukraine.

[Dzafdet]

And they will cure you, and they will cure me. And there will be no aviation. and tanks. Once you were already in Ilovaisk. But, apparently, not enough ..

[Orca]

Quote: Insurgent

... and it won't give you.

Well, in fact, the chubaty combat aviation as such no longer exists, and what else can somehow take off "with a kick" will crash back to the ground. My Donetsk miner brother told me so, so that I would transfer dill from Russia. :)

[Raven 95]

As a result, Kissuiko added that the decision of President Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada is needed for the "return of Donbass"

To return Donbass, you have to surrender to Donbass.
It's simple.

[boriz]

Russia will not use combat aircraft.

It will be used, like Israel, from its territory.

[Alexander Terentyev]

Minefields of Donbass are waiting for the tracked iron of Ukraine. I think there will be no boilers - separate fires will be enough.

[S. Freeman]

Nobody will fly there headlong. First, they suppress air defense, and in different echelons, then aviation will appear, accompanied by our air defense. They will crush the Ukrainians if they want to. Strategists forget that strikes can be delivered during the escalation of the conflict deep into the defense of Ukraine, including decision-making centers. Who's in the way? Tomorrow, the Security Council and the Federation Council will overnight declare Ukraine an aggressor and a zone of their interests, and will allow the commander-in-chief to use the armed forces. So that is all. The strategists in the General Staff will dust off the folders, and get down to business ...

[Skif]

As usual, nothing new. "We will crush them, because they will not use aviation, and foreign countries will help us." Well done. Eagle. With such advisers, you don't need enemies and spies.

[Naval]

For seven years they have been fighting, crushing and holding back the hordes of the Russian army, they have destroyed all the armored divers, the paratroopers, and the entire Buryat-Chukchi special forces, it remains only to the sounds of "the puppy is dead" to parade across Donetsk. Yes, they would write fantastic novels - they would be rich. What is not a "new European" is a hero, each of them wasting no time, eight tanks with one shell. We are starting to be afraid!

[garik77]

In a fool, this is a kiss! They seem to have shmal began to enter in unlimited quantities, nothing else can explain such nonsense. Although the president is a clown, everyone else should also match - jesters are peas

[Metallurg_2]

We are ready not only for exacerbation, but even for a full-fledged invasion

Have you dug up some snapshots?

[babackov.eu]

yes, I will be the first to drop 6 afab-250

[King3214]

To protect Russian citizens, of whom several hundred thousand live in the Donbas, Russia will use not only aviation, but also nuclear weapons.

[Igor Korbut]

The lessons of the past of these “Kiss” do not teach anything, they probably forgot why the DPR and LPR were formed, which will never return to Ukraine, not even because of military conflicts and thousands of civilian casualties, and not the desire of the people to continue to exist with the Russophobic government of Ukraine

[Berg berg]

Aviation will not be used, only high-precision weapons Caliber and Iskander, and in some places Solntsepek and Tosochka.

[Motor depot]

We will concentrate troops on the border, and send volunteers to the Donbass. We will use long-range attacks from the undertow... It will not do anything more decisive.

[Berg berg]

It definitely won’t happen in the Donbass, but it will definitely be used over the Rada in Kuyev and Lvov. And no one has canceled Calibers, targeted strikes on accumulations of equipment, airfields and fuel and ammunition depots.

[Piter]

If necessary, he will use it, don’t hesitate