South Korean KAI announced the rollout of the first flight prototype of the KF-X fighter

The rollout of the first flight prototype of the promising South Korean fighter KF-X is scheduled for April 2021. Korea Aerospace Industries is completing the assembly of the aircraft.

According to the company, the work is proceeding according to the schedule, roll-out will take place in April 2021, the first flight will be in 2022, while the exact dates have not been announced. In addition to the first flight, several more prototypes are being assembled for testing, despite a delay in funding from Indonesia, also participating in the project.

To date, the aircraft has been fitted with two General Electric Aviation F414 engines, and the main assembly work has been completed. The scope of the remaining installation work is not great, it mainly concerns the bow compartment.

As previously reported, the fighter is being created in single and two-seat versions. In terms of aerodynamic layout, it is almost a complete "copy" of the American F-22, but slightly smaller.

The aircraft will be 16,9 meters long, with a wingspan of 11,2 meters and a height of 4,7 meters. The maximum take-off weight is 25,4 tons. Speed ​​- up to Mach 1,9. 10 attachment points for rockets, bombs and various overhead containers. In the first version - Block 1 - there are no internal compartments, this aircraft will be produced until 2028. The Block 2 version will go into production from 2029. It is stated that the second version will not have restrictions on the range of weapons.

The development of the fighter will be completed by 2026, the South Korean Air Force plans to acquire 120 new aircraft by 2032. New fighters will replace the obsolete F-4 Phantom II and F-5 Freedom Fighter / Tiger II.

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[tralflot1832]

Some are entering the aircraft builders club, others will be leaving soon!

[Orange bigg]

Who's Coming Soon?

... The rollout of the first flight prototype of the promising South Korean KF-X fighter is scheduled for April 2021. Korea Aerospace Industries is completing the assembly of the aircraft.

This is what the TF-X will look like. The same engines will most likely be on it.

[Borik]

Apparently we are talking about Ukraine.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: OrangeBigg

The same engines will most likely be on it.

Not. Considering 2 options General Electric F110 and Eurojet EJ200. It is more likely that there will be a British.

[D16]

Considering 2 options General Electric F110 and Eurojet EJ200.

Is it okay that these are motors of different dimensions? Maybe first you need to decide on the size of the plane?

[oleg-gr]

"This is almost a complete" copy "of the American F-22, but slightly smaller." What an interesting piece of news. Do Koreans plagiarize or are they having fun? If this is their complete development, then you could not come up with your own appearance?

[mvg]

General Electric F110 and Eurojet EJ200

Ilya says everything correctly, the K-FX engines are from the F-18, and the F-110 is the dimension of the F-15. There is a difference of 1.5 times, both in geometry and in power.

[OgnennyiKotik]

It's about TF-X. It is larger than the F-15.

[mvg]

He's bigger than the F-15

It is unlikely that it will take off in the next 10-15 years. And No, the maximum takeoff weight is less than that of the F-15E. It is unlikely that the Americans will supply the Turks with engines under Erdogad

[OgnennyiKotik]

Pessimism is not justified.
The Turks are doing together with BAE (Korea together with Lockheed), the first flight is scheduled for 2023. The technical partner is extremely strong, with tremendous experience. Britain is a centuries-old ally with serious international weight.
The choice of the engine should soon be determined. Although the news that the F-110 will be already passed, the Turks are releasing them under license. But Britain is more interested in putting its own engine.
The problems of Turkey and the United States are greatly exaggerated, they have, by and large, on 2 disputes, the Kurds and the air defense. Both issues are solvable.
And so their military-technical cooperation continues, as well as joint projects.

[SSR]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Britain is a centuries-old ally

Great Britain fought in 1917 with the Ottoman Empire in Palestine. There were protracted positional battles, the Turks were well entrenched. On the part of the British, Richard Meinertzhagen, an old scout and cold-blooded killer, decided to solve the problem. Having found out that the Turks have problems with cigarettes, and they have practically nothing to smoke, he came up with his own insidious plan. Ten thousand packs of cigarettes were purchased, wrapped in leaflets calling for surrender, and dropped from the plane into enemy positions. The Turks smoked cigarettes, and the leaflets were used for the most direct soldier's purpose. A few days later, having lulled the vigilance of the naive Turks, the Englishmen decided to repeat their trick - only this time the cigarettes were filled with opium. The next day, when the British launched an attack, the Turks offered little resistance. Many of them could not even stand, let alone shoot. The Ottoman troops were defeated.

Source: https://m.fishki.net/2040427-kak-anglichane-pobedili-turkov-ispolzuja-ih-vrednye-privychki.html © M.fishki.net

English gentlemen, applies only to English gentlemen, like the samurai code, only to the Japanese.
Naive, they continue to believe in the good intentions of the British, who destroyed millions of Irish people.

[mvg]

But Britain is more interested in putting its own engine.

Eurojet EJ 200 is much weaker than F110 and F100. BAE is a solid partner, plus RK .. but in reality, the series will go on in at least 10 years. And in the required quantities it will be in another 5 years.
PS: Where did the Turks get F110?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: mvg

Eurojet EJ 200 is much weaker than F110 and F100

No, but the glider needs to be seriously altered. The EJ200 has some serious advantages. It is 700 kg lighter, and the thrust on the latest upgrades is comparable. I think a prototype of the aircraft will be rolled out in the summer, it will be clear there finally. While we are discussing the pictures.
By terms ± agree

Quote: mvg

PS: Where did the Turks get F110?

So the licensed assembly was carried out when the F-16 was assembled. The principle is more logical to set F110, a serious reduction in production and operation costs. Due to the unification with the F-16.

[mvg]

This is how the licensed assembly was carried out when the F-16 was assembled

The block 52 that the Turks have comes with the F100. It is 110% weaker than the F17.
F110 - 145kN, F100 - 120kN, EuroJet - 90kN This is afterburner.
If we take the maximum take-off, as 28 - 30 tons, then it is normal .. By the way, the dimension of the KF-X is just comparable. 17 m against 19 m, and 11 m against 13 m.
PS: Judging by the pictures, the TF-X dimension is the same as that of Needle. All 3 aircraft are in more or less the same class. Let's see the official data after the tests.
PPPS: The real competitors of the MiG-35. I also wonder what kind of radar

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: mvg

EuroJet - 90kN

Do not read Russian-language sources. There is a mistake on a mistake. The above characteristics are the very first option, now at afterburner 120 kN

EJ2x0
Stage 1:

EJ2x0 with 20% growth over the original EJ200. The EJ2x0 engine will have dry thrust increasing to about 72 kn (or 16 lb) at a warmed horsepower of about 200 kn (or 103 lb).
Stage 2:

The new engine plans to increase the output by 30% more power than the original EJ200. The engine will have a dry thrust of about 78 kn (or 17 lb) at a warmed power of about 500 kn (or 120 lb).

https://web.archive.org/web/20100731153302/http://typhoon.starstreak.net/Eurofighter/engines.html

Quote: mvg

The block 52 that the Turks have comes with the F100

The Turks have a license and the F-16 is F110
https://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article21.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_F110

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: mvg

PPPS: The real competitors of the MiG-35. I also wonder what kind of radar

You can't compete with something that doesn't exist. MiG-35 is a dead project.
There will be AFAR Turkish. They started / will start to install it on Akinchi and F-16 from this year.

[mvg]

Well, I agree on EuroJet, practically a competitor to F414, but they will put F110 on TF-X until they make a national TRMOTOR.
MiG-35, it's all about the price and the radar. Will make a price tag in the region of 35 million, will live ...
For the money, the only competitor is J-10C / D. Both the Korean and the Janissaries will be expensive, taking into account the imported components and the general pricing policy. Egypt, Malaysia, Algeria ... plus the VKS will buy something.
PS: And the service is very important ... we have it shitty

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: mvg

Will make a price tag in the region of 35 million, will live

There are no such prices, the export new MiG-29 costs 50-60 million already now.

[mvg]

new MiG-29 costs 50-60

2015, 46 MiG-29 .... $ 2 billion with weapons.
https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2015/05/25/593348-soglasovan-kontrakt-na-postavku-46-istrebitelei-mig-29-v-egipet
Approximately 40 million
PS: In my understanding, weapons, radar, avionics are much more important than a glider. You can twist loops, barrels, cobras and bells as much as you like, but this can only make people laugh at the air show. Missiles and bomb strikes kill. Plus control center with UAV or AWACS.

[D16]

It is more likely that there will be a British.

It is larger than the F-15.

And how is it going to fly on two nine-ton aircraft?

[dauria]

Some go to the aircraft builders club

Will they? The Swedes with the Gripen sales are constantly stumbling over the United States. And he is only a competitor to the F-16. And the Koreans swung at the "sacred" - they do not want to buy the F-35. Disorder. For this, governments are thrown off.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: dauria

And the Koreans swung at the "sacred" - they do not want to buy the F-35. Disorder.

They want and buy.

South Korea will acquire another 20 F-35 aircraft as part of the next phase of a deal to upgrade its fleet of fighters to fifth-generation aircraft.

Earlier in 2014, South Korea ordered 40 F-35A aircraft worth $ 6,4 billion, with deliveries of F-35s under this contract beginning this year. The purchase of additional cars will cost Seoul an additional $ 3,3 billion.

https://topwar.ru/163442-juzhnaja-koreja-priobretet-dopolnitelnye-f-35a.html

[tralflot1832]

The Koreans seem to have given them a site for missile defense, or this is not enough.

[Temples]

Quote: tralflot1832

The Koreans seem to have given them a platform ...

South Korea belongs to the United States. Completely. Until the last Korean. This country was formed by the United States.
South Korea is doing what the US needs to do.
This is an exemplary colony.

They don't even have the right to fart on their own.

[d1975]

Well, yes, proud Georgians fly into the first modernized ones)))))

[Zaurbek]

For some reason they did it without bomb bays.

[OgnennyiKotik]

I think there are 2 main reasons. We decided to make the first batch simpler and not all bombs and missiles fit into the compartments. If the main load will be on the outer points of the suspension, there is no point in tormenting with the inner compartments.
Block 2 is already done with compartments and is more advanced.

[Zaurbek]

I do not agree .... it's a different fuselage turns out. What, will they do it again later?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Zaurbek

I do not agree .... it's a different fuselage turns out.

Here infa is unambiguous. Block 1 without compartments, block 2 with compartments. So it doesn't depend on consent.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Block 1 without compartments

Then, is there any point in making an airplane with shapes sharpened for palatability? It is worth hanging weapons on it (and it is all outside) - you can forget about invisibility for locators.

[postum]

The point is to accumulate competence and experience, and then you can proceed to a more complex task.

[ultra]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

We decided to make the first batch easier

I haven’t laughed for so long!

[Hog]

Quote: Zaurbek

For some reason they did it without bomb bays.

How could they be there?
If you are talking about the internal bays for weapons, then they were not planned to be made there, tk. it is a generation 4 ++ fighter. Yes, the principles of visibility reduction are applied on it, but the weapons will be located on an external sling.

[Zaurbek]

Analogue of Raphael. MiG-35S, F-18 (fresh) Let's just say. His direct competitor in all respects.

[Hog]

Quote: Zaurbek

Analogue of Raphael. MiG-35S, F-18 (fresh) Let's just say. His direct competitor in all respects.

Well, really, I didn't know, thanks for enlightening (sarcasm)

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Hog

If you are talking about internal bays for weapons, then they did not plan to make them there.

They were planned and the plans are still in force.

[Orange bigg]

Koreans call the KF-X a fighter of the 4,5 generation, that is, it does not reach the 5th generation, but it has an advantage over the 4th generation fighters. Not all at once. We decided to repeat the F-22 in its light version in essence. The same Chinese on the J-20 clearly show their own aircraft engineering thought, their own school. The Koreans simply repeated the F-22, and even installed American engines.

In the first version - Block 1 - there are no internal compartments, this aircraft will be produced until 2028. The Block 2 version will go into production from 2029. It is stated that the second version will not have restrictions on the range of weapons.

[D16]

the J-20 clearly shows its own aircraft engineering thought, its own school.

Into granite

[d1975]

And what other engines should they install? They do not have their own, and these can easily disappear, which is not so, that's all, bye bye the plane. After all, they are conditionally independent, like the Yapas. Although they could have created, probably.

[Zaurbek]

If I were in their place (Koreyev), I would have made a bomb bay for bombs and CD ..... something is not haemorrhagic with the launch of V-V missiles from the bomb bay.

[D16]

For some reason they did it without bomb bays.

Because so far only the Chinese can fit large rockets into a small plane. J-31 is an example of this.

[Zaurbek]

F-35 is another example.

[D16]

F-35 another example

It was easier for Amers to arrange around one motor.

[Holuay T.O]

Awesome plane! In avionics, it will probably surpass the F-22

[Observer2014]

Quote: Holuay T.O.

Awesome plane! In avionics, it will probably surpass the F-22

On what grounds did you make such a decision?

[Zaurbek]

In size - a competitor to the F-35.

[Holuay T.O]

It will surpass it in avionics, it is not clear just how much will they rivet? Well, the beauty is amazing!
The size during the battle can play a role in the air, if too large is not suitable for close combat

[Observer2014]

..... if too big is not suitable for close combat

Brilliant. I'm even afraid to talk about the Su 57. Let's talk about the Su 35 in the context of maneuverability and size? Can we compare with F 35? Etc...

[kventinasd]

It is better for Koreans to continue to rivet Hyundai with Samsung than to climb into aviation. It's like letting Russia produce its smartphones with laptops, without having its own technological base.

[Zaurbek]

Unfortunately for the Russian Federation, the Koreans have a good groundwork in all areas ..... so we decided to put everything together. In the 90s from my institute (Polytech) in South Korea, all organic chemists and biochemists reworked. someone even stayed. This is how Koreans collect competencies and then multiply them.

\
By the way, about cars, one of the manufacturers of South Korea in 1976-77 also started with Fiat-124

[kventinasd]

Quote: Zaurbek

Unfortunately for the Russian Federation, the Koreans have a good groundwork in all areas ..... so we decided to put everything together.

Do not exaggerate. The Chinese have a much better potential than the Koreans, and they still cannot make a normal fighter.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Zaurbek

Unfortunately for the Russian Federation, Koreans have a good track record in all areas.

Why for the RF? The Koreans have their opponents enough.

[mvg]

hyundai with samsungs continue to rivet

Apparently, grade 10, probably finished, or even vocational school for a locksmith ...
Samsung is building supertankers with a capacity of 300 thousand dwt. And heavy industry, which is not available in the Russian Federation. This is in addition to advanced microelectronics, which in the Russian Federation will not be mastered for another 10-15 years

[Orange bigg]

Don't be so categorical.

... Russian scientists have developed microprocessors for smartphones, wearable electronics and AI systems

... In the near future, Russia will announce three microprocessors designed for mobile platforms, artificial intelligence systems and wearable electronics. The development was carried out by the Russian Research and Production Center "Electronic Computing and Information Systems" (SPC "ELVIS"). This was reported by Vedomosti.

Thus, equipment manufacturers will be able to create smart devices on a domestic component base, and most likely government employees will use them.

https://csn-tv.ru/posts/id21186-rossiiskie-uchyonye-razrabotali-otechestvennye-mikroprocessory-dlya-smartfonov-nosimoi-elektroniki-i-ii-sistem

[mvg]

Russian scientists have developed microprocessors for smartphones, wearable electronics and AI systems

Not even a bit funny.
Look at the performance of Elbrus, it is at the level of Tualatin, Pentium-III, 2003. Considering -15% for x86 compatibility mode. And at a cost, like a nuclear briefcase. At the same time, on the board with Elbrus, I saw a lot of imported things: North Bridge, network, memory ..
Do you really believe that we can manufacture RISC processors using 7nm technology?
In all "Russian" iotaphones, Western processors and displays. And the Taiwanese line that we "bought", the minimum that does is 22 nm. Zelenogorsk has already burned out many times, if not for state investments, it would have gone all over the world.
PS: Add sanctions .. no one will sell anything ...

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: mvg

Look at the performance of Elbrus, it is at the level of Tualatin, Pentium-III, 2003

No dirt They have already overtaken the 2010 Intel Core.

[The eye of the crying]

"Announced in the near future." Both laughter and sin.

[boriz]

But nowhere is it said where these processors will do.
I'm afraid the story will repeat itself with Medvedev's iPhone.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: boriz

But nowhere is it said where these processors will do.

Said. They will be made in Taiwan.

[Klingon]

and these will be devices similar to the first Motorola? Bravo!

[kventinasd]

Quote: mvg

Samsung is building supertankers with a capacity of 300 thousand dwt. And heavy industry, which is not available in the Russian Federation. This is in addition to advanced microelectronics, which in the Russian Federation will not be mastered for another 10-15 years

Russia ranks second in shipbuilding and is the undisputed leader in advanced nuclear technology. I think in microelectronics in 2 years we will enter the top five, and Koreans do not have the chance to produce their aircraft and rocket engines for 10 years. Materials science is lame with them.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: kventinasd

Russia in 2nd place in shipbuilding

Once Russia for one quarter was in 2nd place in terms of ordered ships.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Once Russia for one quarter was in 2nd place in terms of ordered ships.

What difference does it make in which quarter? The main thing is to break into the leaders. On the other hand, Rosatom occupies a leading position in the world market of nuclear technologies, occupying more than 50 percent of the world market. The company ranks first in the world in terms of the number of nuclear power plants being simultaneously constructed abroad, and second in terms of uranium reserves.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: kventinasd

The main thing is to break into the leaders.

In second place. By orders. One quarter. Of course, this is much better than nothing, but this is not even close to leadership. Well, about leadership in microelectronics in 10 years is generally ridiculous - there are not even such successes there.

[Holuay T.O]

The Korean Air Force is close to the Japanese

[kventinasd]

Quote: Holuay T.O.

The Korean Air Force is close to the Japanese

And what do the Japs have cool Air Force? As for me, both of them, when they mention North Korea alone, quietly shake in their veins.

[spolo]

I respect Koreans. Perfectly their hands are sharpened, and once they took the plane it will come out right!

[Holuay T.O]

Yes, I have no doubt about their engineering. And electronics are so nice to me in general, like Japanese, they are generally the best in the world, which is important in general for avionics

[Revolver]

Kim Jong-un smokes nervously in the corner.

[horus88]

Stroking his nuclear-filled rocket ...)

[Coconut]

SU 29..online)

[Klingon]

Well, why is it that the Su-57 doesn’t have flat nozzles before losing its pulse? and where is this flat if it is a copy of the F-22 ??