The Ministry of Defense is considering the issue of expanding the Military Transport Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces

The Ministry of Defense plans to expand the Military Transport aviation due to the formation of new aviation regiments, this issue is under consideration. Reported by "News" with reference to the military department.

The Ministry of Defense is considering the issue of forming additional air regiments, and as a result, the third division of the Military Transport Aviation, however, as the newspaper notes, the final decision has not yet been made.

It is planned that in ten years the Russian Aerospace Forces will receive about a hundred new and modernized Il-76 military transport aircraft, and it is through them that new units will be formed. According to the plans of the military, each new regiment should consist of three squadrons of 9 aircraft each. The new, third air division, will include at least three air regiments.

As noted in the Ministry of Defense, recently a rather large burden has been laid on the military transport aviation. BTA aircraft took part not only in military exercises, but also participated in humanitarian and combat operations, peacekeeping activities.

At the end of last year, for the first time in many years, a new regiment was formed as part of the BTA. It will be based at the Ivanovo-Severny airfield and interact with the 98th Guards Airborne Division. New and modernized Il-76 aircraft are being supplied to equip the regiment.

Currently in service with the Military Transport Aviation there are about 250 aircraft and helicopters, most of which were produced in the days of the USSR. In 2019, the Ministry of Defense reported that, thanks to the modernization and repairs, the serviceability of the BTA fleet was brought to 90%.

Comments

[Cowbra]

in other words, it is not news, but the continuation of the BTA fleet renewal program, which has been talked about long ago. Well. this is exactly the case.

[x.andvlad]

It's time to start mass production of the IL-76. It is not the first year that we have been producing them, and all the released aircraft can be counted on one hand.

[YOUR]

How tired of words, and their difference from deeds.
In the article https://topwar.ru/180487-uroven-10-samoletov-v-god-shojgu-nazval-kolichestvo-planiruemyh-k-postavke-v-vks-il-76md-90a.html#comment-id- 11278666 entitled "Level - 10 aircraft per year": Shoigu named the number of Il-76MD-90A planned for delivery to the Aerospace Forces "dated 02.03.21/76/90 it is written that Shoigu, when visiting the plant in Ulyanovsk, said that it was necessary to bring the production of the Il-20MD-XNUMXA to XNUMX per year.
Great. Keep it up.
But further

Under the new conditions, under the old contract in 2012, the plant will now commission a total of 13 Il-76MD-90A aircraft, and from 2021 a new contract for the supply of 2028 such aircraft until 14 will enter into force.

Until 2028, a contract was signed for the manufacture and delivery of a total of 14 aircraft to the Air Force. I think it's easy to calculate - 2 planes per year.
It turns out in words 20 in real life 2.

[Nazar]

YOUR - "2 planes per year"? And only three pieces were handed over to the army for the whole time, how much will it be learned "per year"? From the news of the end of 2020 - "The contract of 2012 for 39 Il-76s worth about 140 billion rubles, which is actually not fulfilled, will be renegotiated with an increase in the price of cars."
What are the new regiments or divisions? The IL76M-90A is in a stupor, and the "small" IL 112 is even becoming indecent to mention, soon the combination of "IL112" from the posts will be automatically removed, as swearing will be removed. The development of the average transport was never started. So what is the article about?

[Aerodrome]

The Ministry of Defense is considering the issue of expanding the Military Transport Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces

then you don't have to bother ...

[carstorm 11]

Unlike the sofa, at least they try to do something there)

[carstorm 11]

So Shoigu said what he wanted. Plants just need to do it.

[Orkraider]

Quote: YOUR

Until 2028, a contract was signed for the manufacture and delivery of a total of 14 aircraft to the Air Force. I think it's easy to calculate - 2 planes per year.
It turns out in words 20 in real life 2.

Welcome.
If you figure it out, it’s not so.
There will not be two planes a year until 27 - there will be more, starting from 22.

The fact that the contract from 2012 for 39 aircraft was revised is excellent, which means that the plant, which will rhythmically produce aircraft in the future, will not be penalized for past sins .. and will not nullify all efforts to launch production, killing the entire economy factory with a gigantic fine. So the conclusion of the DC with the revision of the quantity and price is a deliberate decision of the Ministry of Defense aimed at further interaction with the plant and confirming the tacit agreement on the introduction of the PLC.
But when it reaches its design capacity, then contracts for additional volumes of cars.

On the production line:
those boards that have been rolled out recently delayed the installation and commissioning of the line. Thank God, the Ministry of Defense made the right decision when it gave the go-ahead for temporary delays in the release (to receive not two or three aircraft every year, but now, but having received a failure, later be able to receive 8-12 aircraft). And after revision 25 years and the maximum possible 18 boards.
line launch is impossible without a drawdown of the issue. By the way, the example of a superjet is very indicative with their rhythm of release from the production "conveyor" line.
The appointment of Vladislav Sidorenko as the head of the new PLC at the end of September 2020 is also indicative. He has good experience in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, where he organized the serial assembly of Superjets using jigless technology.

[Orkraider]

For information:

By 2024, we plan to assemble twelve aircraft per year, that is, one aircraft per month. For this, a calculation and detailed cycle schedules for years have already been drawn up. The next year (2021) will be important. This is a transitional period when many issues need to be resolved, especially those related to the development of assembly technology. By and large, the structural and technological development of the assembly of the product will take place on the first three aircraft "and during the same period the personnel involved in the assembly of the previous aircraft will be retrained.

The first one is already on the PLC. Soon the second will rise.
It is not the start of the line that begins, but the debugging of production on it.
The decisive year will be 2022, that's when the PLC will work as planned.

[Saxahorse]

Quote: Orkraider

The decisive year will be 2022, that's when the PLC will work as planned.

Exactly the same thing was said ten years ago. I would like to finally see aircraft, badly needed by the army, and not another renewal of promises.

[Nazar]

Orkraider - "The decisive year will be 2022" - why not 2024 right away?
co-o-ovsem soon, but how can your promises be forgotten on VO - huh?
And yet, we found something to compare, the assembly of SuperZhesti with the assembly of IL76. SSJ is a screwdriver made of imported parts, but on IL, it is necessary to assemble components from "domestic manufacturers", but the question is, are all these "manufacturers" now "alive"?

[rocket757]

The Ministry of Defense plans to expand the Military Transport Aviation through the formation of new aviation regiments

First of all, first of all, the planes !!! Well, everything else will come later.

[Jacket in stock]

Will it be, this hundred new planes?
The Ulyanovsk plant produces 3 pieces of IL-76 per year, and even then with a creak.
Smaller planes and not at all, even in the long term.
Ruslans are already falling apart right in the air
What new divisions are there, that would be something to fly on.

[AlexVas44]

Recently we were glad that they will produce 12 units a year.

[hydrox]

Old joke:
"My neighbor says he can 5 times a night ..."
"And who prevents you from saying that you do it 7 times - let him be jealous!" - and with Russian transport workers - there have been thousands of hours of conversations, but there are still no planes ...

[Galleon]

Here is the link https://evo-rus.com/avto/exluzive/shojgu-poruchil-srochno-uvelichit-proizvodstvo-samoletov-il-76-v-ulyanovske.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&nw=1614935441000
Shoigu's desire to increase the production of IL-76 to 10 units per year, the basis for today's note. The issue of the production of An-124 is also being considered, the article does not mention this, but it is said here
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/754135

[mvg]

The issue of the production of An-124 is also being considered.

There is no engine, from the word "absolutely". And there is nowhere to take it either. If only there is a stock from Zaporizhzhya AI

[Piramidon]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Ruslans are already falling apart right in the air

Nonsense!

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Piramidon

Nonsense!

Of course of course. I think so too.
And that recent case in Novosibirsk is so, not worthy of attention.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Quote: Piramidon

Nonsense!

Of course of course. I think so too.
And that recent case in Novosibirsk is so, not worthy of attention.

And what, the plane collapsed there? Engine destruction (fan disc) can also occur on a brand new aircraft. In our regiment, the propellers came off on an airplane that was 3 years old. (Factory defect in the engine gearbox). And here you are making an elephant out of a fly, and trying to rub in what is "lost" and there is a massive destruction of aircraft.

[carstorm 11]

Lies at what it is frank

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

The number of flight boards in the VTA is decreasing, but the children of the generals need to be attached somewhere. So you have to get out, expand the staff as it is, you can still add dead souls there.
Just some kind of holiday.

[Kurare]

Quote: Nestor Vlahovski

but the children of the generals must be attached somewhere. So you have to get out, expand the staff as it is, you can still add dead souls there.

Is there any evidence? Or just troll the hunt?

[Nestor Vlakhovski]

What am I to you a prosecutor?

Or just troll the hunt?

why not trick the state budget derban? How many cars there are under 30 years old, a little over 20, the rest are pensioners. This B-52 can "save" the resource in a sterile desert, rising into the sky every 5 years, and military transport aviation is actively exploited.

[Alex777]

Share the data on the state of your VTA?

[mitroha]

quote = Nestor Vlakhovski] What am I to you a prosecutor? [/ quote]
No, you are hollow

[Your stranger]

And what about air tankers?

[Kurare]

Yes, about the same as with aircraft such as AWACS and U. The platform is the same new Il-76, which is sorely lacking.

It has long been said, suggested, at least in the role of tankers, to think about using the Il-96. But, something apparently did not grow together. Or maybe Aviastar just pulled the whole "blanket" over itself. Competition.

[Nazar]

Kurare - it's just that these "craftsmen" can't even finish building one I96, what kind of tankers are there.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Kurare

It has long been said, suggested, at least in the role of tankers, to think about using the Il-96.

You might think that the Il-96 is produced by ten a year.

[Reviews]

Quote: Piramidon

You might think that the Il-96 is produced by ten a year.

About a dozen of them are already under conservation, there is no need to release them. With a scanty touch. How much is it in %% to the real flying fleet of Il-78s?

[Kurare]

This is also true! Aeroflot refused from the 96s, and the resource there is still very decent. It's easy to even convert them into tankers. Although new fights are needed in order to support Voronezh residents, they are not doing very well.

[Reviews]

Quote: Kurare

This is also true! Aeroflot refused from the 96s, and the resource there is still very decent. It's easy to even convert them into tankers.

This idea has been exaggerated for several years in the "corridors of power". But five years ago, she was naturally lost. It is precisely because of its consistency (preservation of competencies in the SHFS and VASO support) and the relative cheapness of converting liners into transport tankers. And this, after all, is also the carrying capacity for the military transport aviation: personnel and general cargo, of which the military also has a lot. Carrying cartridges and auto parts on the IL-76 is stupid.

[Kurare]

Quote: Avis

But five years ago, she was naturally lost. It is precisely because of its consistency (preservation of competencies in the SHFS and VASO support) and the relative cheapness of converting liners into transport tankers.

Yeah, you can't understand Russia with your mind ... This is how competencies and entire enterprises are ruined.

[Reviews]

Quote: Kurare

In this way, competencies and entire enterprises are ruined.

What are we talking about. :(

[Kurare]

Quote: Piramidon

You might think that the Il-96 is produced by ten a year.

No, I think that Voronezh residents probably do not have such opportunities. But producing several a year is quite realistic.

IL-76s for 3 versions - a truck, a tanker and an AWACS and U - just not enough. And the 96th, with its excellent aerodynamics, compared to the 76th, and the flight range, as a tanker, would be exactly what you need. IMHO.

[Your stranger]

And how many old silt 76 are on the savings?
Why not modernize them,
And make new tankers

[Romario_Argo]

we have a combat radius of fighters, bomb load, sighting system, MKRTs - such that we don't really need air tankers

[Glory1974]

I still didn't get it. There are a hundred new aircraft and regiments and divisions should be formed from them, or will they only be later, but should they be formed now?

[keeper03]

When it will be, then it will be! Purely army style!

[Herman 4223]

Will be formed in the future. And the regiments are not only airplanes and pilots, there is still a lot of things there.
First, a regiment is formed, and then it is filled with equipment.

[Wedmak]

I wonder when the ELEPHANT will take off? Considering the news about the possible resumption of production of the AN-124, will there be enough money for a new transport aircraft? Taki can finish the Elephant, how to return to the AN-124?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Wedmak

I wonder when the ELEPHANT will take off? Considering the news about the possible resumption of production of the AN-124,

Most likely never. The renewal of Ruslan will kill him, or postpone him by twenty years, which is, in general, the same thing.
What is the Elephant, just to localize the ancient Il-76 and Il-114 and that is a whole epic, and here is a new plane from scratch, and even not trivial.

[Romario_Argo]

The elephant will take off when the PD-35 is ready

[Ros 56]

Apparently the situation in the world is running out. You have to be ready for anything.

[URAL72]

I think the 76th will fly even longer than the Tu-95. Of course, with the development of the airframe's resource, it will be necessary to reduce the maximum load, limit the number of airfields suitable for receiving worn-out machines, but they will be useful. An eternal machine, but of course we need remotorization, moreover, it's time to think about PD-14, composites and, of course, avionics and 3D technology.

[Sergey Obraztsov]

The Ministry of Defense reported that thanks to the modernization and repairs, the serviceability of the BTA fleet was brought to 90%.

If this is true, then this is an extremely high figure, especially given the average age of the aircraft.

[hydrox]

Something does not reach me: are serviceability and combat readiness different indicators or the same?

[kit88]

FAP IAO approved by order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation No. 044 09.09.2006

32. Serviceable an aircraft is considered that meets all the requirements of the operational documentation (ED), on which the established maintenance operations have been performed, all detected damages and failures have been eliminated, and the directives have been fulfilled. A serviceable aircraft, its assemblies and equipment must have the remnants of assigned resources and service life no less than those required for the flight to the maximum range.

33. Combat ready a serviceable aircraft, prepared for a combat flight, equipped with an ATS or other means in accordance with the assigned task is considered.

[hydrox]

In fact, everything is simple: for the General Staff, when planning operations, ONLY combat readiness makes sense. For Ch. Regiment engineer (for his career) is more interested in serviceability. But with a lack of combat readiness, parts of the asterisk from the shoulder straps will be ripped off from the regiment commander - such is the relationship between serviceability and combat readiness.

[kit88]

I would say even easier.
We take a working aircraft, do pre-flight preparation on it, hang up missiles - we get a combat-ready aircraft.
We remove the rockets, make the post-flight one - again we get just a serviceable plane.

[hydrox]

Downright instruction, just not in verse, but they said it correctly and beautifully - it feels like a pro!

[tralflot1832]

There are komenty. There are factories. A magic kick in the ass, to speed up the construction of aircraft, no one has canceled. We have no way without it.

[Izotovp]

We need delivery vehicles between the Mi-8 and Il-114/76. That is, between the landing of the forward groups of airmobile units and the airfield landing of the units for control and holding of territories / bridgehead. And as the most suitable means of transporting medium and, in part, heavy equipment, it is necessary to consider the SVP of the "Zubr" type.

[Azimuth]

The Ministry of Defense is considering the issue of forming additional air regiments, and as a result, the third division of the Military Transport Aviation, however, as the newspaper notes, the final decision has not yet been made.

We will have to make such a decision for simple and prosaic reasons.
The first, in fact, the scale of our country is at the same time a weak and vulnerable transport infrastructure, in the latter case we are not even talking about a war, but enough, God forbid, a major man-made or natural disaster.
The second reason is that there are not a large number of bases abroad, and as the Syrian experience has shown, we have a weak auxiliary fleet to support the groupings of troops operating abroad.
And so on, there are many reasons, but these are the first two.

It is planned that in ten years the Russian Aerospace Forces will receive about a hundred new and modernized Il-76 military transport aircraft, and it is through them that new units will be formed. According to the plans of the military, each new regiment should consist of three squadrons of 9 aircraft each. The new, third air division, will include at least three air regiments.

The plans are not bad, but the production rate should exceed the needs of the Ministry of Defense by 2 times.
In general, for their implementation it is necessary to put things in order at the Ulyanovsk Aviastar. It should become a 100% state-owned enterprise. Perhaps he missed something, but in the 2000s there were only foreigners among the shareholders. The deployment of both the release of the new Il-76 and the modernization of previously released ones is not only of strategic importance for our defense, but also for the modernization of the economy as a whole. After all, both the new Il-76 and the packages for the repair and modernization of the existing ones have significant export potential. Oil and gas are good, but aircraft construction is the locomotive of entire industries.
There is also competition in the transport aircraft market, but the modernized, proven old Il-76 has more prospects here than the modern MC-21 in the passenger airliner market, remembering the Superjet in general.

The Il-76MD-90A has engines of the PS-90 family, which are also used in the Tu-204 / -214 family. I cannot judge how unified the avionics is and how much this is possible due to the specifics of each of the aircraft, but the maximum possible unification of avionics, the pilot's workplace, that is, to the location of instruments and controls, would only be beneficial, especially when providing service for export aircraft, on which stuffed with cones.

[hydrox]

Write off the Superjet before he messes up ...

[Lara Croft]

Good news.

BTA aircraft took part not only in military exercises, but also participated in humanitarian and combat operations, peacekeeping activities.

Isn't it time to create the Air Transportation Command, which would include the VTA of the Russian Aerospace Forces and chartered civil aircraft and helicopters .... of private airlines ...?

[Prisoner]

Have come to your senses! Such a school in Balashov was put under the knife ...! Ur-odes!

[hydrox]

This is not a (oh!) Birth, these are traitors: a little more - and in the VTA there will be no flyers capable of landing a loaded IL-76 with a roll of 60-80 at a distance of 1 km from the runway, at an altitude of 100 m (in fact, this Bagram) ...

[hydrox]

Go crazy!
It turns out that there are absolutely no combat flyers of BTA-schniks on VO and NOBODY can neither support nor refute my comment!
How lovely !