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The new brand of armored steel being developed in Russia will increase the water flow rate of equipment

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As the head of the "VPK" ("Military-Industrial Company") LLC Alexander Krasovitsky told reporters, a new type of armor is being developed in Russia.


According to the general director of "VPK" LLC, we are talking about a new armor for combat vehicles, the peculiarity of which is as follows: while maintaining the strength characteristics, it should reduce the total weight of armored vehicles.

Alexander Krasovitsky's statement is published RIA News... It is noted that the development is carried out by employees of the "VPK" together with the Central Research Institute of Ferrous Metallurgy named after Bardin. A lot of work has already been done to master the production of new grades of armored steel.

Krasovitsky stressed that samples of armor elements from new steel grades are planned to be made in the near future. After manufacturing, their tests will begin in order to identify operational parameters.

In this regard, a related task is being solved. It is associated with an increase in the navigability of technology. If the program is fully implemented, the use of new grades of steel will increase the parameters of the navigability of various armored vehicles already in service with the RF Armed Forces.

It should be noted that active work has been underway recently to create new types of armor. The main task in this case is to increase the protective qualities and at the same time reduce the weight. This allows not only to increase the aforementioned navigability, but also the ability to transport armored vehicles by air, to drop them.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 5 March 2021 06: 10
    +3
    And they will make submarines out of it!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 5 March 2021 06: 18
      +3
      The main task in this case is to increase the protective qualities and simultaneously reduce the weight.

      I understand that the specific gravity of the armor will be much lower than the available samples? Such armor has a wide range of applications.
      good
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 5 March 2021 08: 41
        +7
        It is difficult to reduce the specific gravity. But to reduce the total weight by reducing the thickness of the sheet while maintaining strength - it is possible
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 5 March 2021 09: 23
          -2
          Quote: seregatara1969
          It is difficult to reduce the specific gravity. But to reduce the total weight by reducing the thickness of the sheet while maintaining strength - it is possible

          Forgive me, but even by adding additives to aluminum, it turns into an alloy whose characteristics are comparable to steel grades. This is what I meant when I spoke about the specific gravity.
        2. lucul
          lucul 5 March 2021 12: 01
          +1
          It is difficult to reduce the specific gravity

          For this, alloys are being developed. Once it was believed that a person cannot fly, especially in a metal bird))))
        3. ioan-e
          ioan-e 5 March 2021 13: 11
          +2
          Quote: seregatara1969
          It is difficult to reduce the specific gravity. But to reduce the total weight by reducing the thickness of the sheet while maintaining strength - it is possible

          Maybe they are developing new alloys, then the specific gravity will decrease!
      2. venik
        venik 5 March 2021 10: 25
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        I understand that the specific gravity of the armor will be much lower than the available samples?

        ========
        Rather - the opposite! Just the density of such armor will be even greater! But, if the strength of such armor is much higher, then while maintaining the level of protection, you can put sheets thinner, which means the total weight of the equipment will decrease ... Well, or improve the protection parameters (from penetration), while maintaining the same mass of equipment ...
        Somewhere like that!
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 5 March 2021 14: 13
          +3
          More likely - on the contrary!

          more precisely, not so, for example, on the T-90 in the 90s, 110-mm stectolite inserts were removed from the sides
          now they put boron carbide its equivalent of 880-mm steel + 80-mm board = 960-mm
          Equivalent at an angle of 30 degrees. = equivalent to 1248mm steel
          + DZ Relic 800-mm more = 2048-mm
          there are still NO such ATGMs with penetration of 2000 mm (2 meters)
          1. venik
            venik 5 March 2021 14: 34
            +3
            Quote: Romario_Argo
            for example, on the T-90 in the 90s, 110-mm stectolite inserts were removed from the sides, now they are putting boron carbide

            ========
            Yes! This is called composite armor .. And boron carbide is a very interesting material! I have one interesting story connected with him ...
            Well, in general - here many for some reason perceive the concept of "armor": how whole steel sheet, while forgetting that even clean steel the armor can be a "sandwich": for example, obtained by sintering thin sheets of steels with different alloying impurities and / or different heat treatment. The combination of ultra-strong (but usually brittle) layers with layers of ductile steels - allows you to achieve higher armor resistance of the resulting slab in comparison with a similar slab thickness, homogenized steel!
            Not to mention the "sandwiches" of different alloys! drinks
            1. Romario_Argo
              Romario_Argo 5 March 2021 14: 39
              +2
              that's it, they even introduced new protection classes Br-5 and Br-6
              by the way, the armor panels made of ceramics (Ratnik) hold a 14,5-mm bullet
              I already wrote on VO about this a couple of years ago and now there is already an official confirmation of this
              1. venik
                venik 5 March 2021 14: 47
                +1
                Quote: Romario_Argo
                by the way, the armor panels made of ceramics (Ratnik) hold a 14,5-mm bullet

                ========
                I readily believe! Even if boron carbide plates (for body armor), back in the mid-late 80s, held armor-piercing bullets 7.62x39 and even 7.62x54, then modern ceramics is certainly capable of more! hi
                1. Romario_Argo
                  Romario_Argo 5 March 2021 14: 51
                  +3
                  and another particularly important point is THE WEIGHT
                  sq.m. 1 cm thick steel - 80 kg, aluminum / titanium - 40 kg. silicon carbide 21 kg.
                  boron carbide - 11 kg. + equivalents on silicon only x 4, on boron x 8.
                  here we smoothly approached the BMP laughing
                  1. venik
                    venik 5 March 2021 15: 00
                    +1
                    Quote: Romario_Argo
                    and another particularly important point is THE WEIGHT
                    sq.m. 1 cm thick steel - 80 kg, aluminum / titanium - 40 kg. silicon carbide 21 kg.
                    boron carbide - 11 kg. + equivalents on silicon only x 4, on boron x 8.
                    here we smoothly approached the BMP laughing

                    ========
                    About BMP - it's COOL !!! good laughing
                    I see only two problems:
                    1.fastening (connection) of ceramic plates ...
                    2. how to soften the received blow ... what As experience shows: even if the "armor" did not penetrate, then all the same: it really hurts !!! recourse
                    1. Romario_Argo
                      Romario_Argo 5 March 2021 15: 03
                      +1
                      even if the armor didn’t hit, it’s all the same: it really hurts !!!

                      here we went to the "centurion" with an integrated exoskeleton
                      for grounding kinetic energy
                      that's why it's just not very pleasant when you step into the line of fire laughing
                      1. venik
                        venik 5 March 2021 15: 15
                        -1
                        Quote: Romario_Argo
                        here we went to the centurion with an integrated exoskeleton for grounding kinetic energy

                        =======
                        The exoskeleton is a class thing. And of course this topic needs to be developed!
                        But first of all, this thing is terribly expensive, and I doubt that all motorized riflemen, paratroopers and marines are enough ...
                        And then - I strongly doubt that the mobility of a fighter in this very "skeleton" will be high enough ... No matter how "robocop" turns out:

                        Sort of walking heavy tank on the battlefield ... sad what
                      2. Romario_Argo
                        Romario_Argo 5 March 2021 15: 21
                        +3
                        not expensive. passive exoskeletons have already been tested in Syria, without batteries
                        + developed a new super thread material
                        so it became possible to protect 99% of the surface of a person from 7,62x54
                        ceramics from KPVT 14,5х114
                      3. venik
                        venik 5 March 2021 19: 37
                        +2
                        Quote: Romario_Argo
                        not expensive. passive exoskeletons have already been tested in Syria, without batteries
                        + developed a new super thread material
                        so it became possible to protect 99% of the surface of a person from 7,62x54
                        ceramics from KPVT 14,5х114

                        ========
                        So it is .... But as for me, it is better than a lightweight "armor" weighing no more than 10-15 kg, capable of withstanding a hit of 7,62 x 39 (from an average distance) and light fragments (in addition with a helmet!) And not a very restrictive movement, and nothing could be better!
                        Well, it just so happened! Firmly convinced that the ability fast move, crawl, tumble, wriggling "snake" is the best way to survive in modern combat !!!
                        And no one will convince me of this !!
                        PS Although, at my age and with my problems ..... exoskeleton would not even hurt.... And not only in the war !!! lol laughing
                    2. Narak-zempo
                      Narak-zempo 5 March 2021 18: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: venik
                      No matter how "robocop" turns out

                      Rather "robot chick"
  • mark1
    mark1 5 March 2021 07: 13
    0
    [quoteThe new brand of armored steel being developed in Russia will increase the water throughput of equipment] [/ quote] ie will increase buoyancy. It will be difficult for a submarine to dive ... but for that it is easy to surface.
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 5 March 2021 08: 00
    +4
    According to the general director of "VPK" LLC, we are talking about a new armor for combat vehicles, the peculiarity of which is as follows: while maintaining the strength characteristics, it should reduce the total weight of armored vehicles.

    Quote: Theodore
    they will make submarines out of it!


    Comment as a joke - I'm afraid that due to the lightness of the armor, the submarine will have problems with diving wassat
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 5 March 2021 08: 39
      0
      Commentary as a joke - I'm afraid that due to the lightness of the armor, the sub will have problems with diving wassat

      And why should she dive, she will be invulnerable anyway drinks
  • polar fox
    polar fox 5 March 2021 09: 02
    0
    Quote: Theodore
    And they will make submarines out of it!

    then they will not be able to dive ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 March 2021 06: 23
    +5
    Today, this is not the first media outlet to announce this news, which is naturally of interest.
    while maintaining the strength characteristics, it should reduce the total weight of armored vehicles.
    It remains only to wish - God help.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 5 March 2021 07: 10
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It remains only to wish - God help.

      What is such a god in science and metal science, Hephaestus or what ?! Reason and experience of metallurgists!
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 5 March 2021 08: 25
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        The mind and experience of metallurgists

        Let us thank evolution for this gift.
      2. venik
        venik 5 March 2021 10: 17
        -1
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        What is such a god in science and metal science, Hephaestus or what ?! Reason and experience of metallurgists!

        =======
        good They took it off the tongue! Trust in God, but don't do it yourself! Physics of metals and metal science (and materials science in general) are traditionally our strong point! drinks
      3. ioan-e
        ioan-e 5 March 2021 13: 13
        0
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Quote: rotmistr60
        It remains only to wish - God help.

        What is such a god in science and metal science, Hephaestus or what ?! Reason and experience of metallurgists!

        The one who has!
        1. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 5 March 2021 17: 56
          -2
          Quote: ioan-e
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Quote: rotmistr60
          It remains only to wish - God help.

          What is such a god in science and metal science, Hephaestus or what ?! Reason and experience of metallurgists!

          The one who has!

          Which power decides the square of the circle, and the navigability of tanks with Sau on the surface of the water, and not on the bottom ...
  • Graz
    Graz 5 March 2021 06: 32
    +4
    In this regard, a related task is being solved. It is associated with an increase in the navigability of technology.

    Chet immediately remembered an advertisement for chocolate with bubbles inside laughing
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 5 March 2021 07: 57
      +6
      You are not far from the truth when it comes to porous armor.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 March 2021 08: 07
      +2
      Quote: Graz
      Chet immediately remembered an advertisement for chocolate with bubbles inside

      Milky Way ? How not to remember ?!

      And also the joke of Y. Arlazorov:

      Verse No. 51118002

      Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 5 March 2021 08: 27
        +4
        Quote: Insurgent
        Milky Way? How not to remember ?!
        And also the joke of Y. Arlazorov

        You very well remembered sweets and their effect on tooth enamel.
        Just as excessive consumption of sweets leads to tooth decay, so excessively long sheets of quotations discourage any desire to read them.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 March 2021 07: 23
    +2
    And where does the flow rate? Will the density of the new steel be equal to the density of the air, will tanks be able to sail on rivers, right on the surface of the water? Armor or durable, high density, or use surrogates, such as aluminum "armor" or combined alloys, and do not fool people fool fool
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 5 March 2021 07: 33
      +4
      Sensation sucked from the finger, and there was already an article on this topic, though without mentioning the flow rate! laughing
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 5 March 2021 08: 36
        -2
        Usually, such developments are not advertised publicly, the developers just decided to get more money from the budget.
        And the article was - "In the Chinese Sohu: Now Russia has an advantage in tank armor again"
        https://topwar.ru/179086-v-kitajskom-sohu-teper-u-rossii-snova-pojavljaetsja-preimuschestvo-po-tankovoj-brone.html#comment-id-11145788

        The Chinese media reacted to the emergence of information about the development in Russia of a new method of making armor. Earlier, "Voennoe Obozreniye" in one of the news items reported that the method developed at the Bryansk State Technical University consists in creating tank armor using additive technologies - by fusing wire. One of the features of such armor is its reduction in weight (with equal volume) by about 15-20 percent.

        You see, VPK LLC has already been created. Now they also offer water flow ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 5 March 2021 07: 31
    0
    Those. branch science WORKS for us!
    Are these remnants of the Soviet legacy, or have new specialists grown up, scientists of a new generation, graduates of our universities?
    Interesno!
    1. lucul
      lucul 5 March 2021 11: 59
      +1
      Those. branch science WORKS for us!
      Are these remnants of the Soviet legacy, or have new specialists grown up, scientists of a new generation, graduates of our universities?
      Interesno!

      Yes, there is business - to take a bright head and put her to do what she loves, providing excess funding))))
      The only problem is to find this bright head)))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 March 2021 12: 14
        0
        Indeed, it’s business!
        So why???? bright heads run, if not from the country, to the private sector, for example.
        1. lucul
          lucul 5 March 2021 12: 22
          -1
          Indeed, it’s business!
          So why???? bright heads run, if not from the country, to the private sector, for example.

          Do you really believe that Korolev would go to the private sector, or emigrate from the country? )))
          The problem is to consider a bright head - you need your own bright head - a fisherman sees a fisherman from afar.
          And in all our universities, the teaching staff is working abroad. A bright head from the first year is treated psychologically so that she emigrates from the country - until the teachers are completely replaced - there will be no sense.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 5 March 2021 12: 51
            0
            Quote: lucul
            Do you really believe that Korolev would go to the private sector,

            Are you serious?
            This is your addition, I have no such ideas and cannot be.
            Quote: lucul
            And in all our universities, the teaching staff is working abroad.

            But this is just ABOUT NOW! And my question was about NOW.
            And just with this written, I agree.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 March 2021 07: 46
    0
    Krasovitsky and ratchets like him, tongue would be smeared with glue and shoved somewhere so that he could not pull out and, accordingly, chat with his broomstick. Previously, they were planted or placed against the wall.
  • Mooh
    Mooh 5 March 2021 08: 24
    +1
    I read from my phone without an ad blocker and immediately under the article I found an advertisement for PVC boat accessories with a corresponding picture.
    Apparently, Google almighty analyzed the article and issued an advertisement corresponding to the topic.
    Who said that the era of artificial intelligence has already arrived?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 March 2021 08: 34
      +2
      Quote: MooH
      I read from my phone without an ad blocker and immediately under the article I found an advertisement for PVC boat accessories with a corresponding picture.
      Apparently, Google almighty analyzed the article and issued an advertisement corresponding to the topic.
      Who said that the era of artificial intelligence has already arrived?


      Google is a purely American product, what do you want from the "AI" created by the Yankees?

    2. lucul
      lucul 5 March 2021 12: 26
      +1
      I read from my phone without an ad blocker and immediately under the article I found an advertisement for PVC boat accessories with a corresponding picture.
      Apparently, Google almighty analyzed the article and issued an advertisement corresponding to the topic.
      Who said that the era of artificial intelligence has already arrived?

      I'll tell you more - they even detect your voice from other devices.))) Like mine, my phone is a couple of floors higher or lower from me, at this moment I am talking with someone on some topic. I come, open my phone and see an advertisement for what we just discussed two floors below)))
      Why scouts - if your phone goes down and so on))))
      1. Mooh
        Mooh 5 March 2021 15: 25
        0
        Insurgent
        Is our primordially primordial Orthodox Yandex smarter? Side view of the same eggs.
        lucul
        The fact is that the question is that these systems are able to read data perfectly, but cannot analyze at all. Huge resources are driven into them, and at the exit of PVC boats to the article on armored vehicles. It was possible to apply a random number generator for 2 lines of code with the same effect.
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 5 March 2021 09: 25
    +1
    The new brand of armored steel being developed in Russia will increase the water flow rate of equipment
    - and a tank in the picture. I thought, I thought, ... what is the water flow sideways here? Well, they would write that the technique, with the same protection, will have less weight - and everything is clear. And here - "increase in water yield".
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 March 2021 10: 11
      +1
      Quote: Bad_gr
      and a tank in the picture. Thought, thought, ... how is the water flow sideways?

      Apparently such light armor that any tank will float. good laughing
      1. Alexey from Perm
        Alexey from Perm 5 March 2021 20: 25
        0
        foam armor?
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 5 March 2021 22: 55
          0
          Quote: Alexey from Perm
          foam armor?

          Yeah, inflatable rubber. laughing
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  • Looking for
    Looking for 5 March 2021 16: 18
    +1
    Flow rate ?????????????? technology. FEELING. !!
    1. Professor
      Professor 5 March 2021 19: 47
      0
      Quote: Seeker
      Flow rate ?????????????? technology. FEELING. !!

      Amphibiousness. wink
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 5 March 2021 20: 24
    0
    That's when they create it, then it's worth writing, right now, why should you ring a void?
  • Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 5 March 2021 21: 30
    0
    Somehow in light of the demilitarization of the economy
    all these statements look ridiculous.

    There are so many tanks, get rid of
    from them. And here the steel is new.

    Where's the old one? Do you want to make partitions from armored steel?
    Or pans?

    What a weird conversion. As in a joke
    "Ensk Tank Plant as part of the conversion
    manufactures baby carriages. One gripe -
    children are hard to get out of the tower. "