Ex-President of Armenia considers the continuation of the war for Karabakh real

Robert Kocharian, ex-president of Armenia, believes that the continuation of the war with Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh is real. According to the former leader of the country, this will happen, since the results of the last military clash between Yerevan and Baku were unfair and humiliating for the Armenians.

It is reported news agency "Sputnik Armenia".

Kocharian believes that Yerevan was forced to accept the provisions voiced on November 10 in the Trilateral Agreement. He in no way blames the OSCE Minsk Group for this. Moreover, the ex-president considers this negotiating platform important and necessary for Armenia. But the reason for Yerevan's acceptance of the shameful conditions of peace was the failed policy of the country's top leadership.

World experience shows that a world that is too unfair cannot last long.

- Kocharyan thinks.

In his opinion, a new outbreak of an armed conflict between Yerevan and Baku over Nagorno-Karabakh is likely in the future. To illustrate, the Armenian ex-president cites the example of events in Europe in the first half of the last century in the interval between the two world wars. Then the unfair and humiliating conditions of peace for Germany after the 1st World War led over time to a new escalation of the global conflict.

In Kocharian's opinion, Baku is mistaken, believing that the Karabakh problem is finally resolved and a repetition of the armed conflict is not expected.

Meanwhile, the Armenian portal of legal and legal information Datalex reported that the first deputy head of the General Staff of Armenia, Lieutenant General Tigran Khachatryan, who was dismissed by the President of the country Armen Sargsyan, filed a lawsuit to declare this decision unlawful. The general was fired a week ago on the initiative of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan.

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[Svarog]

In Kocharian's opinion, Baku is mistaken, believing that the Karabakh problem is finally resolved and a repetition of the armed conflict is not expected.

This music will last forever .. the problem is certainly not solved, it is dug ..

[WHAT IS]

It will smolder there for a long time, before the world as before China ...

[Shurik70]

Peace there, of course, will not be long ...
But a war, let alone a successful one, is unlikely.
Friends will not support this. Enemies will not look calmly.
And to modernize the army - it takes more than a dozen years.

[Kaman]

It seems to me that Kocharyan's ideology is called "revanchism"

[Civil]

The pendulum will continue to swing until the peoples of Armenia and Azerbaijan move from cave nationalism to a higher stage in the evolution of society - cooperation. When they understand that their national feelings are used by politicians to gain power and money, at their expense, Armenians and Azerbaijanis.

[yehat2]

the historical analogy is understandable, but completely incorrect.
1. Far from all Armenia has lost something in NK and is in no hurry to harness for its return. After all, there is mainly interest only in the rich handful.
2.a very large material part of the army was lost and it is not clear how to restore it, so that the question could even in theory stand upright
3. The difference in strength is very significant and the mountains do not contribute to revanchism.
4. It was not the iron that lost the conflict, but the soldiers, and they are a product of society. Until society changes seriously, they will fail again.
5. Well, corruption. She divides possible efforts into 3-4.

[loki565]

1. Far from all Armenia has lost something in NK and is in no hurry to harness for its return. After all, there is mainly interest only in the rich handful.
2.a very large material part of the army was lost and it is not clear how to restore it, so that the question could even in theory stand upright
3. The difference in strength is very significant and the mountains do not contribute to revanchism.
4. It was not the iron that lost the conflict, but the soldiers, and they are a product of society. Until society changes seriously, they will fail again.
5. Well, corruption. She divides possible efforts into 3-4.

And what have the rich lost there? oil rigs or factories? This land was primarily needed by those who lived there, well, plus a strong blow to the pride of the entire state.
Regarding corruption, these are also empty words, it is with such slogans that he came to power, the result is the loss of territories.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I have already written many times that the situation in Armenia is very disturbing. For some reason, they do not see reasonable people, and some aggressive, inadequate, foolish, sororities are muddying and messing with them.

[Clear]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

I have already written many times that the situation in Armenia is very disturbing. For some reason, they do not see reasonable people, and some aggressive, inadequate, foolish, sororities are muddying and messing with them.

When do they like them? Few died?

[Private-K]

Quote: loki565

And what have the rich lost there? oil rigs or factories?

There is a delicious array of minerals. Almost not developed, but only explored. The Armenians have not been able to establish their production, but the Azerbaijanis will.

By the way, I am worried about the high-mountainous gold mine on the very border of NK and Armenia - has it come under the control of Azerbaijan or not?

Quote: loki565

a strong blow to the pride of the entire state.

Rather, for national pride, and not for the state. Moreover, the Armenians are terrible nationalists and are carefully brought up in such a paradigm.

[oleg-gr]

Robert Kocharian remembers the victories over the Azerbaijani troops. Only for repetition they need to put their country in order. And invest a lot of money in it. Hitler also began his war to "restore the dignity" of the German nation after the First World War.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: yehat2

the historical analogy is understandable, but completely incorrect.
1. Far from all Armenia has lost something in NK and is in no hurry to harness for its return. After all, there is mainly interest only in the rich handful.
2.a very large material part of the army was lost and it is not clear how to restore it, so that the question could even in theory stand upright
3. The difference in strength is very significant and the mountains do not contribute to revanchism.
4. It was not the iron that lost the conflict, but the soldiers, and they are a product of society. Until society changes seriously, they will fail again.
5. Well, corruption. She divides possible efforts into 3-4.

6. Resources of the NKR itself.

According to the report of the Geological Fund of Azerbaijan to the government of the republic, dated May 1968, in Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent regions there are the following reserves of an industrial category (in tons): gold - 1250, silver - 4550, copper - 1,84 million, lead - 660 thousand , zinc - 775 thousand, cobalt - 150 thousand, chromium - 2,25 million, and taking into account mixed deposits - 3,5 million. Significant deposits of bauxite were also noted - up to 120 million tons with a high content of the main raw material (over 40%). According to many expert estimates, the predicted reserves of black gold in the Karabakh hydrocarbon province may be up to 250-300 million tons. Most of these resources were explored in the 50s - mid 70s. The deposits are scattered both in Nagorno-Karabakh itself and in the adjacent regions.
According to the estimates of the University. Johns Hopkins (data from the early 2000s), in the Araks valley, part of which extends to the south of Nagorno-Karabakh, there are three hydrocarbon fields with total reserves of at least 150 million tons of oil and up to 250 billion cubic meters of gas. In the same region, seven so-called local traps are known, where two to five million tons of oil and 10-20 billion cubic meters of gas are concentrated.
In the Lachin region (controlled by Armenia since 1991), signs of large reserves of petrochemical raw materials were revealed in the early 60s..

https://newsrussia.media/society/1742-neischerpaemye-bogatstva-nagornogo-karabaha-ne-dayut-pokoya.html

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Svarog

This music will last forever.

Wars will end only when there are no people left on Earth.

[Real Pilot]

How many "exes" are ready to wave their fists after a fight! Not answering for anything, but only aggravating the tragedy of his people.

We saw the defeat of the Armenians and the army of Karabakh, their unwillingness to meet with the "Bayraktar" and the complete lack of reason in the command ... And also the deceitful prime minister and national shame.

Russia helped stop this devastation, brought in peacekeepers and secured a fragile peace, probably a temporary one. And now, as soon as the danger has passed, politicians who are greedy for pre-election points are carrying on their destructive propaganda.

[loki565]

It is incomprehensible this trick with the purchase of second-hand Os from third countries. When they saw that they were buying UAVs with which modern complexes can hardly cope and a large number is needed to cover each other. The illustrative example of Syria and Libya teaches nothing.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: loki565

It is incomprehensible this trick with the purchase of second-hand Os from third countries. When they saw that they were buying UAVs with which modern complexes can hardly cope and a large number is needed to cover each other. The illustrative example of Syria and Libya teaches nothing.

What's not clear here? It was easier to negotiate a rollback with the Jordanians

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Svarog

the problem is of course not solved, it is dug in ..

Of course it is solved, half of Karabakh for Russians, half for Turks ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Svarog

the problem is of course not solved, it is dug in ..

For whom is it not solved? For Armenians? Yes. And for Baku? Although .., too - yes. After all, Artsakh, according to Aliyev, does not exist. I would add - de jure. And if suddenly the Armenians want a more just world than now, then, I'm afraid, Artsakh will cease to exist de facto. There will be one continuous Azerbaijan. I strongly doubt that the Armenians could become so strong economically and militarily that they could compete with Azerbaijan. The only way out for Artsakh, its remnants, is to beg Putin to accept them into Russia. We just fucking need them. The base, at the expense of Artsakh, is good to build there.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

The base, at the expense of Artsakh, is good to build there.

Definitely. A little tough though.

[Terenin]

In his opinion, a new outbreak of an armed conflict between Yerevan and Baku over Nagorno-Karabakh is likely in the future.

Well, why is it for Russia?

[Clear]

Quote: Terenin

In his opinion, a new outbreak of an armed conflict between Yerevan and Baku over Nagorno-Karabakh is likely in the future.

Well, why is it for Russia?

Therefore, Putin, in response to a throw to support Pashinyan's opponents, replied ... yourself ... yourself ...

[Victor_B]

After the fight, wave your fists ...
You would, for a start, remove this miserable little pig!

[Machito]

Continuation of the war for Karabakh by Armenia may lead to the disappearance of the state of Armenia.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Azerbaijan plans to sign a new contract with Israel in the amount of $ 2 billion. The contract provides for the supply of arms to Azerbaijan within 5-7 years.

The main article of the contract is the supply of high-precision weapons to Azerbaijan and the replenishment of ammunition spent in the war.

[Vadim237]

ATGM Spike OTRK Laura iron dome ABM Arrow UAVs and artillery - that's what this contract will definitely be.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Funny From the top shelf, the prankster-prapor Soros farthed, and our peoples dreamed of a heroic deed.

[Clear]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Funny From the top shelf, the prankster-prapor Soros farthed, and our peoples dreamed of a heroic deed.

But, Soros with the pigs was brainwashed there well. Some themselves are shocked, they say, how so?

[Vladimir_2U]

Turks were behind the Azeri, and who will be behind the Armenians? You can't count on Russians, they have enough worries themselves!

[pyagomail.com]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

You can't count on Russians, they have enough worries themselves!

This is not the point: if someone attacks Armenia, Russia, according to the treaty with Armenia, will take measures, if Armenia attacks someone, this is her problem.

[Aviator_]

Turks were behind the Azeri, and who will be behind the Armenians?

Like who? - Soros and his team. Everything strongly resembles the situation of a hundred years ago, when initially different states were cut from the losing Turkey, Armenia received a huge territory, but such a revenge-seeker was found - Mustafa Kemal, who restored Turkey on a secular basis, took away from the Armenian Dashnaks everything that could be to Yerevan of the Soviet army, he would have taken Yerevan away from the Armenians.

[Roma 1977]

Of course it's real. If the Armenian somersaults annoy Putin, and he gives the go-ahead to the Turks.

[vladcub]

In this case, Vovan is not at all friendly with his head: according to the CSTO treaty, we will have to harness too. And for us for complete "happiness" only war is not enough and it is good if only in the Caucasus, and if TMV?

[loki565]

With such weapons, and most importantly with such a leadership, this is unlikely.

[RUSS]

Quote: loki565

With such weapons

By the way, in the photo for this article, do the Armenians have "interesting" weapons, like the MG-42 machine gun)))) and the H&K machine gun?

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Turks and Azeris will be delighted! Just give them a reason and they will arrange another circumcision for the Armenians.

[Thrifty]

Conclusions from the defeat, otherwise you cannot name the last massacre in Karabakh, obviously the Armenians did not do it! The army must be ready for war, and not flaunt on social networks! Azerbaijan silently and quickly reached an agreement with the Turks, with the Israelis, bought modern weapons, and conducted the campaign relatively quickly, and most importantly, at least partially, but regained the lands of Karabakh. Now, when the Armenians buy fifty ubplas from the Chinese, learn how to dig trenches and mask equipment, create kamikaze drones, then it will be possible to talk with Azerbaijan about the "disputed lands", otherwise it will turn out to be Karabakh 2, with the loss of their own, Armenian lands.

[tarakan]

You forgot to mention "training personnel for modern combat operations"

[Prisoner]

Here is itching to the peasant. The main, most irreconcilable warriors will "fight" for Karabakh in the squares of Yerevan. Someone for the sake of political dividends will send snotty romantics and peasants to slaughter, tearing them off the plow. Is this what they want? That's it, the train has left. Say thank you to Pashinyan, an eared Soros rat.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Captive

Say thanks to Pashinyan, the big-eared Soros rat.

There is too long a list of rats who need to say "thank you" ...

[Cowbra]

Cool. And where did the Armenians get MG-3?

[your1970]

Quote: Cowbra

Cool. And where did the Armenians get MG-3?

- from the same place from where the Bundesian "Tropentarn" - from the warehouses ...

[Doliva63]

You read this nonsense and remember the time when we all lived peacefully. In the early 90s, I remember, some even laughed at the words "if only there was no war" - like, the market will put everything and everyone in their place. Here, he arranges. It’s sad.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Doliva63

You read this nonsense and remember the time when we all lived peacefully. In the early 90s, I remember

The conflict in the NKR began long before the 90s, at least read periodicals or something ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: Doliva63

You read this nonsense and remember the time when we all lived peacefully. In the early 90s, I remember

The conflict in the NKR began long before the 90s, at least read periodicals or something ...

What for? I served in the army in those years, I remember everything. How the crime imported weapons, how the talking heads were pumped up, how the KGB people shrugged off their hands. You are teaching me in vain. At that time, officer reconnaissance groups were formed on our base. But after half a year everything was lost by a decision from Moscow.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Doliva63

At that time, officer reconnaissance groups were formed on our base. But after half a year, everything was lost by a decision from Moscow.

Most of all then went to the "vovans" ....

[Doliva63]

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: Doliva63

At that time, officer reconnaissance groups were formed on our base. But after half a year, everything was lost by a decision from Moscow.

Most of all then went to the "vovans" ....

No, I'm talking about the very beginning of that conflict. VV-shnikov then, it seems, did not exist at all (except for the Ordzhonikidze MVKU of the Ministry of Internal Affairs). The army did everything on its own initiative, but it was brought under control, so to speak. But then, in Tbilisi, Baku, they framed it in full! (.

[Fredgar Puzix Jr.]

The bravado about the invincibility of the Armenians went into oblivion with arrogance ...
For revenge, the Armenian people will need huge financial and human injections - resources and several decades, how ready is Armenia for this revanchist impulse ?!
And the Azerbaijani army will not stand still ... And this will be the final nail for it ...

[hydro]

Not just injections - but already help from Russia in containing Turkey, this is unrealistic, a new war - will be much more serious, because Turkey itself threatens Armenia and does not care about Russia. The most important thing is the use of tactical nuclear weapons, if the US sidelines, then in this case nuclear bombs will be used, and if not, Armageddon?) Everything is complicated, especially since there are no forces in Armenia, and 2000 peacekeepers are just formal containment. In general, now this garbage Kocharyan will not be able to go anywhere - Armenia has no strength

[Your stranger]

Armenians will fight on the Internet, and dream that the Russians will harness,
By the way, for parity, Armenians will have to buy weapons for at least $ 10 billion,
And this is not to buy an air defense system wasp, arrow, etc., but something that will be no worse than Turkish and Jewish!
Secondly, where to recruit several hundred thousand for battles and reserves?

[hydro]

Within the framework of the CSTO, there is a way to create a strong air defense system, there is a lot of money, well, and aviation, Armenia will not cover Azerbaijan in terms of costs

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Stranger

where to recruit several hundred thousand for battles and reserves?

I don’t know about hundreds of thousands, but at the Velozavodsky and Moskvoretsky markets in Moscow, you can safely recruit a battalion ...

[Aviator_]

at the Velozavodsky and Moskvoretsky markets in Moscow, you can safely recruit for a battalion ...

And if you walk around the Moscow region, then there will be enough for a regiment.

[hydro]

If only partisan, Armenia does not have a strong army, it is demoralized, defeated, Karabakh is completely battered, all that there is a weak air force from the Su-30 even without missiles, Iskander at the bases and T-90 in small numbers, as I understand it, Kocharian with the consent of Putin, will they really start a war in the coming years? Is VVP ready to sacrifice the Russians if the Armenian army is weak, this is stupid! Not far-sighted. First of all, it is clear that Azerbaijan will pump itself up with weapons, oil will allow 100, but it is time for Armenia to reformat itself and not start a hasty war. In our country, Donbass may be on fire, Syria is on the brink, Libya is of course not important, but we also participate, and here the revanchism is strange) they have no strength, the Russians have no motivation to die for the Armenians, in contrast to liberating Donbass or helping it.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: hydroy

t-90 in small quantities,

Armenia has one, the Russian Federation gave it to the tank biathlon ...
In terms of the number of PA tanks and guns, the NKR Armed Forces were stronger than the Armenian Armed Forces ...

Is VVP ready to sacrifice the Russians if the Armenian army is weak, this is stupid! Not far-sighted.

Where does this nonsense come from?

[hydro]

Kocharyan is a friend of Putin, but he says these things, it's just alarming

[Lara Croft]

Quote: hydroy

Kocharyan is a friend of Putin, but he says these things, it's just alarming

All will end with the fact that Karabakh will be under the tutelage of the Russian Federation. Inhabitants of the NKR (of all nationalities) I think they will only be in favor.

[vladcub]

"The failed policy of the country's top leadership" read: "Now, if I were the president, and my grandmother and grandfather's bolt," then there would definitely be a victory.
What he is right about is that it will be "hot" there for a very long time

[Mavrikiy]

Robert Kocharian, ex-president of Armenia, believes that the continuation of the war with Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh is real. According to the former leader of the country, this will happen, since the results of the last military clash between Yerevan and Baku were unfair and humiliating for the Armenians.

Stupidity is an absolute concept. If Armenia twitches, it will deal with Azerbaijan + Turkey. Russia will not harness itself for the aggressor. At the moment, everything is fair: "You are half and I am half."
The characters are very reminiscent of two women who grabbed a child at the trial of Solomon.

[vladcub]

However, Pashinyan overpowered Sargsyan: at the beginning he did not want to dismiss Khachatryan.

[Minxerc]

The main thing is that again, not at the expense of Russia, otherwise they get used to it and still throw mud at accusing of everything

[Sir Galant]

that is good at fighting. don't know how - stay at home

[Pamir]

These yans no longer distinguish between themselves, who represent whom, how should others distinguish them? The Armenians, no offense to them, have self-esteem above the roof, like some others in the Caucasus. Just thinking of fighting among themselves, it will take a long time .Multi-vector, and narcissism on fishlessness, it is a mutually unfavorable thing.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

And when in 92 there were humiliating results for Azerbaijan and not a just world, of course, according to Kocharyan, it was normal. What can I say.

[izGOI]

In Kocharian's opinion, Baku is mistaken, believing that the Karabakh problem is finally resolved and a repetition of the armed conflict is not expected.
An attempt on the part of the Armenian side to solve at least something by military means will in fact lead to the "final solution of the Karabakh issue." And the continuation of "yapping" at Russia is fraught with a "final solution to the ARMENIAN question". [Quote] [/ quote]

[Roskar]

Of course, the Armenians at home will say whatever fits into their heads, but they were warned that at the slightest gesture, the rest of the Armenian "army" would be destroyed. And at their rallies, TV, websites they can yell whatever they want. They only make it worse for those Armenians who decided to return to Karabakh.

[RuslanNN]

Amazingly interprets the facts. Does Azerbaijan consider liberation of ITS lands injustice? Is it unfair to return hundreds of thousands of refugees to their homes? They are shouting about the revival of "great Armenia", although Armenia itself lives like a beggar on Russian handouts, the population is scattering from there. It's funny to hear how they say that Armenia guarantees the independence of Karabakh, although in fact it cannot even protect its borders, Russia is doing it for it. If they start again, they will get the next p ---- lei. Instead of tackling their own republic, where chaos and poverty have claims to all neighbors, and then they wonder why they have such a mess. with the same success Mongolia can lay claim to the lands of "Great Mongolia". It is not necessary to bark, hiding behind the mighty back of Russia, but this number will not pass. They will not be able to fight with Azerbaijan until the last Russian soldier.

[alien308]

Liked. They want more.

[Azimuth]

Quote: oleg-gr

Robert Kocharian remembers the victories over the Azerbaijani troops. Only for repetition they need to put their country in order. And invest a lot of money in it. Hitler also began his war to "restore the dignity" of the German nation after the First World War.

What could they have done then without our paratroopers? ...
And what can they do without us now? ...

Again Aram wants to look like a hero from behind Ivan? - honestly tired of the word, this time, they showed their character and true face by burning our flags, throwing trifles into our embassy, ​​poking placards "Russian invaders out!"
They are venal, and even one-on-one syklovaty, even with us here, even with the Azeris there, they will just gather in a crowd and swagger attacking one. So now they have to sit on a short leash, even if this friend of Vladimir Vladimirovich, in the second circle, joins the trough.

[Azimuth]

Quote: RuslanNN

... hiding behind the mighty back of Russia does not need a lot of cleverness, but this number will not pass already. They will not be able to fight with Azerbaijan until the last Russian soldier.

Maybe it will work out, you never know what there in the Kremlin will decide the GDP. He will decide for breakfast and will not have Azerbaijan at an afternoon snack, the Armenians will decide tomorrow to sit at the opera, exactly afraid to move, well, or they will decide and give you Zangizur.

But your Kurd is too crucified in front of the Turk ... it's not good, the GDP may well decide to make some modest and original gift to his friend in honor of the next coming to power. As in the place of GDP, I would give the Armenians a section of your border with Georgia, closing the issue and returning your Kurd Turkophil, and you and him at the same time from heaven to earth.

The Armenians have one advantage over you - they are ruled by their own elites, and you are the Kurds, because you are inferior as a nation and are most likely doomed to another defeat.

[Pardus]

Ex-President of Armenia considers the continuation of the war for Karabakh real

I am sure it will happen. Not now, then later, when Pashinyan is not in power, a new war will begin.

[Angivin]

Quote: Azimuth

Quote: RuslanNN

... hiding behind the mighty back of Russia does not need a lot of cleverness, but this number will not pass already. They will not be able to fight with Azerbaijan until the last Russian soldier.

Maybe it will work out, you never know what there in the Kremlin will decide the GDP. He will decide for breakfast and will not become Azerbaijan in an afternoon snack,
.

The navel will tear.

[Angivin]

Quote: Civil

The pendulum will continue to swing until the peoples of Armenia and Azerbaijan move from cave nationalism to a higher stage in the evolution of society - cooperation.

With this logic, an analogy between the peoples of Ukraine and Russia suggests itself.