Duels and dueling pistols A.S. Pushkin

Duel of Onegin and Lensky. Illustration for "Eugene Onegin". Image from the site artchive.ru

"Get together now."
In cold blood
Not aiming yet, two enemies
With a firm gait, quietly, evenly
Four crossed steps
Four mortal steps.
Then Yevgeny his gun,
Continuing to advance
Began to raise the first quietly.
Here are five more steps,
And Lensky, screwing up his left eye,
He also began to target - but just
Onegin shot ...
Timepiece: poet
Silently drops the pistol "
("Eugene Onegin", A. Pushkin)

History firearms weapons. It so happens that the history of firearms is closely related to the history of the people who used them. Here are the dueling pistols ... How can you talk about them and not remember two famous duels in the history of Russia: Pushkin and Lermontov, who robbed us of two talents in the field of literature, which made the glory of their Fatherland. But the duty to the Fatherland is one thing, and the duty to one's noble honor is something completely different. Anyway, a great poet is often one thing, but a man is something completely different. For example, in the same police department of St. Petersburg, no one knew Pushkin the poet. There literally the following was written about him: “A. S. Pushkin is a famous banker ". Alexander Sergeevich himself loved not only to play cards, but also ... to speak evil. In his diary, for example, he wrote:

“The fact that Dantes was indulging in the sin of Sodom became known to me first, and I gladly did this news the property of society. "

Dueling capsule pistol, made by master Babiakin, A. S. Tula, circa 1840. Material, technique: steel, wood; carving, bluing, yellow metal inlay, damask. Length: 42 cm; barrel length: 25 cm; bed 30 cm. Inventory number ZO-974. Photo of the State Hermitage

And now we will recall once again that in 1837 it was Dantes who killed him in a duel, although formally the duel took place because of a woman. But again, Pushkin lived during the heyday of dueling culture in Russia, and his duel with Dantes was by no means the first in a row, but ... 25! And for almost all these duels he was not challenged, but he himself!

And what was the reason or reasons for that? Pushkin's contemporaries noted that he was a cocky and very hot-tempered person. His friend, from the time of his studies at the Lyceum, Ivan Pushchin, wrote about him:

“From the very beginning, Pushkin was more irritable than many and therefore did not arouse general sympathy. He had a mixture of excessive boldness and shyness, both of which were out of place, which thereby harmed him. Most importantly, he lacked what is called tact. "

And at the same time, people who knew him noted both his kindness and humanity. And, by the way, his "dueling story" confirms all this well, and it is so interesting that it makes sense to cite it here in full.

Let's start with the very first challenge of 1816. Then 17-year-old Pushkin challenged his own uncle Pavel Hannibal to a duel due to the fact that he beat off the girl Loshakova from him at the ball. The duel, however, was canceled.

In 1817, Pushkin challenged his friend Pyotr Kaverin to a duel because of his playful verses. And this duel was also canceled.

Dueling capsule pistol with a ramrod. Germany, Russia, St. Petersburg (castle) Dating late 45th-mid 30,2th centuries. Material, technique: steel, wood, white alloy, copper alloy; forging, carving, chasing, white and yellow metal inlay. Length: 29,5 cm; barrel length: 8408 cm; stock: XNUMX cm.Inventory number Z.O.-XNUMX

The year 1819 was rich in challenges for Pushkin. To begin with, he challenged his fellow poet and future Decembrist Kondraty Ryleev to a duel. The one, you see, in one of the secular salons made an insulting joke about Pushkin. But this duel was also canceled.

Then, Pushkin himself was summoned to a duel by his other friend Wilhelm Kuchelbecker. The reason was Kuchelbecker's resentment, now at the passage of Pushkin, who wrote: "Kuchelbecker and sickening." And then it came to shooting: Kuchelbecker fired, but Pushkin did not shoot at him. And, of course, now we will never know - whether he just missed, or deliberately shot past ...

In this case, attention should be paid to the fact that during this duel, both Pushkin and Kuchelbecker used flintlock pistols, that is, pistols with a shock battery lock. And it is quite possible that the description of Onegin's duel with Lensky was made by him on the basis of personal experience. And it was with the use of Le Page's pistols. How could it be otherwise? He, Pushkin, and suddenly some second-rate pistols ... Without a doubt, the best ones were taken so that no one would say anything bad about this. "The opinion of the world ...", but how!

By the way, in the same year, the third Pushkin duel took place, and for a completely ridiculous reason, which did not affect Pushkin in any way. Judge for yourself: Pushkin then summoned Modest Korf, an official of the Ministry of Justice, to a duel, only because his servant, getting drunk, began to pester Korf's servant, and he took and beat the little one. But, fortunately, this duel was canceled and the matter was resolved by reconciliation.

The same year, the fourth duel and Pushkin defying again. This time, a certain Major Denisevich was to blame, who only made a remark to Pushkin when he made some noise in the theater and began to shout at the artists. The duel did not take place.

The new year 1820 was marked by two challenges at once: Fyodor Orlov and Alexei Alekseev were summoned to a duel by Pushkin. And again, because they reprimanded him when, being drunk, he began to play billiards and at the same time interfered with everyone. The duel was canceled this time as well, but both of them could well ... end it, and then the career of the great poet simply would not have taken place. But: "Evgeny's fate kept ..."

1821 and another duel with the French officer Deguille. The circumstances of the quarrel are unknown, but the challenge was made, but the matter was settled peacefully.

The first duel in 1822 was very special. Now Pushkin is called by Lieutenant Colonel Semyon Starov due to the fact that both of them indulged in card games and ... did not share the restaurant orchestra in the local casino. The reason - you can’t imagine more stupid. But it came to shooting, both duelists fired, but missed. And again, flintlock pistols were used. There were simply no others then.

Second duel in 1822. The reason is Pushkin's quarrel with 65-year-old State Councilor Ivan Lanov at a festive dinner. It didn’t come to shooting.

1822 year. Pushkin in Moldova and, of course, found someone to find fault with: he decided to challenge the Moldovan grandee Todor Balsh to a duel, and the owner of the house in which he was staying at that time. You see, the wife of Todor, Maria, answered a certain question asked to her with insufficient courtesy. And then the matter did not end in peace. Both the guest and the host fired, but missed. A story that very clearly depicts a portrait of the mores of that time and the attitude of men to women. By the way, after all, the owner himself could have simply told the servants to push such a boor out of the house at your own pace, and even give him a good shot, and he went to shoot him, risking leaving his loving wife as a widow. What is selfishness, isn't it? No, after all, the people of that time were clearly not distinguished by a special mind.

Apparently, the hot climate of Moldova went to the detriment of Pushkin. In the same year, 1822, he also challenged the Bessarabian landowner Skartla Prunculo to a duel. He was a second in a duel, and Pushkin was also a second there, and they ... argued about its rules. But the duel was canceled.

The year 1822 was rich in a duel, rich. Another duel, which also did not take place, was between Pushkin and Severin Pototsky. We had a debate about serfdom at dinner. But they were reconciled.

Flintlock pistol with ramrod. Material, technique: steel, wood. Inventory number Z.O.-858. Photo of the State Hermitage

Another duel in 1822. Pushkin was summoned by Staff Captain Rutkovsky. Well, he didn’t believe that hailstones weighing 3 pounds could be, he scoffed at the captain, but still the duel did not take place.

All the same 1822, and sultry Chisinau, where Pushkin studied the Moldavian language, wrote "The Caucasian Prisoner", "The Fountain of Bakhchisarai" and most actively danced at balls at the Moldovan "boyars" and local Russian officials, played cards and ... fell in love with Lyudmila Inglezi is a beautiful gypsy woman, the wife of a wealthy landowner. And he did not just fall in love, but was in a love affair with her (in any case, local legends say so!). Well, it's clear that my husband found out about it. He locked his wife in a closet, and challenged the rake-poet to a duel. And it is unlikely that this time Pushkin got away with such liberty, but ... the duel was reported to General Inzov, under whose command the poet was, and he took measures to prevent the duel. He put Pushkin in a guardhouse for ten days, and ordered the landowner Inglesi to immediately leave with his wife abroad.

1823 year. The challenge to a duel of the young writer Ivan Russo because of personal hostility towards him on the part of Pushkin. It didn’t come to shots.

In 1826, the poet took offense at Nikolai Turgenev, one of the leaders of the Union of Welfare and a member of the Northern Society, who cursed his poems, and especially epigrams. But the duel did not take place, although the reason was serious, to be sure.

In 1827, another challenge to a duel because of "love". Pushkin began to show interest of a certain quality in the lady of the officer Vladimir Solomirsky. He challenged Pushkin to a duel, but it did not take place.

1828 year. At this point, Pushkin clearly "took a bite at the bit", because he challenged not just anyone, but the Minister of Education Alexander Golitsyn. The reason was Pushkin's daring epigram on the minister, who summoned him for this and reprimanded him. But this duel did not take place either.

In 1828, Pushkin's duel with a certain Lagrenet, the secretary of the French embassy, ​​could well have taken place, because of an unknown girl at the ball, but it did not take place.

In 1829, an official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Khvostov took offense at Pushkin because in his epigram the poet compared him to a pig. And it was not Khvostov who eventually summoned Pushkin, but Pushkin Khvostov. But this duel was not destined to happen either.

In 1832, the poet is already happily married, he has a beautiful wife - well, calm down, sit and write your verses, but no, you can't do without a challenge to a duel. And now Pushkin was summoned to a duel by an officer of the General Staff, ensign Alexander Zubov. Zubov cheated at cards, and Pushkin caught him. And after the duel the matter was gone! However, Zubov, fortunately, missed, but Pushkin even refused to shoot.

1836 - another duel. Pushkin summoned Prince Nikolai Repin. The prince was outraged by the verses written about him, and of course the publicized ones. But the parties came to a reconciliation.

Flintlock pistols with ramrods (pair) Place of origin: Spain, Ripoi. Dating from around 1660-1670. Material, technique: steel, wood, copper alloy; forging, carving, chasing. Length: 37 cm; barrel length: 25,5 cm; ramrod: 24 cm. Of course, no one fired on such pistols in the time of Pushkin. But before ... why not? Inventory number ZO-299. Photo of the State Hermitage

1836 year. Again the instigator Pushkin and again the reason for his poems in relation to one of the officials of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Semyon Khlyustin, who dared to express his displeasure with the poems written about him. And again the duel is canceled. The impression is that the poet is constantly looking for someone to hurt with his poems, and then, when they express their displeasure to him - and who likes it when you are compared to a pig - a challenge to a duel follows, which then ends with a reconciliation of the parties.

All the same 1836. The third duel, or rather, a quarrel between Pushkin and Vladimir Sologub, who spoke impartially about the poet's wife. Here, it seems, it is necessary to fight to the death, because the honor of the beloved woman is hurt. But ... and this duel was canceled.

The turn of fatal, in fact, challenges continues. At the end of 1836, Pushkin again decided to fight. The summoned was a French officer in the Russian service Georges Dantes, but the reason for a very delicate nature was an anonymous letter, which stated that Pushkin was a cuckold, since his wife was unfaithful to him, and there was no one to think about except Dantes.

And here is Pushkin's last duel in January 1837, in which Dantes's fatal shot ends his life. Actually, there is nothing to tell further, all the twists and turns of this story are very well known. Although, of course, it is necessary to say about the duel itself. It turns out that the duel between Pushkin and Dantes was ... long-lasting. First, he challenged Dantes to a duel. And he accepted the challenge. However, a week later he got married to Ekaterina Goncharova, Natalia's sister, Pushkin's wife, and Ekaterina, being in love with Dantes, said yes. And Pushkin immediately withdrew his challenge.

But peace between them was never restored. Pushkin wrote a very malicious letter to Dantes' adoptive father Louis Gekkern, and he challenged him to a duel on behalf of Dantes.

Pair of primer dueling pistols by Master Rechenmacher, Germany, Weimar approx. 1845-1850 Material, technique: steel, wood; forging, carving, bluing, gold inlay, gilding. Length: 37,1 cm; barrel length: 22,6 cm. Inventory number ZO-75. Photo of the State Hermitage

As a result, the duel between them took place the very next day, January 27, on a vacant lot near the Black River at about 17:00. There was a strong wind, but the weather was clear, although the snow was falling to the knees. The conditions of the duel were as follows: the opponents had to stand at a distance of 20 steps and 5 steps from the barriers themselves, and the distance between them was only 10 steps.

At the signal, the opponents had to go to the barriers and shoot at the same time from any distance, but not to cross the barriers themselves. In the event of a miss, the duel was to begin anew under the same conditions, and so on until one of the duelists was killed!

Adrian Volkov. The last shot of A.S. Pushkin

Danzas - Pushkin's second waved his hat, Dantes and Pushkin began to converge. And Pushkin was the first to approach his barrier, stopped and began to aim. And then Dantes, exactly one step before reaching his barrier, fired first from a distance of about 7 meters (11 steps). The bullet hit Pushkin in the stomach, and he fell.

However, the duel continued. Pushkin announced that he would shoot, but since the snow fell on his pistol when it fell, Danzas gave him another. Dantes at this time stood to him, turning sideways and covering his chest with his right hand.

Pushkin got up, fired, and ... then Dantes fell. When asked where he was wounded, Dantes replied that he was wounded in the chest, to which Pushkin shouted: "Bravo!" This is how this duel ended.

Scheme of the duel between Pushkin and Dantes. Fig. A.S. Shepsa

Dantes was wounded in the arm and shell-shocked in the chest, but Pushkin was not at all lucky: he pierced his tibia and hit him in the stomach, where he remained. Such a wound at that time was fatal, moreover, it was probably contaminated with particles of clothing, and it was itself dirty, which caused him, according to the doctors, "inflammation of large veins in conjunction with inflammation of the intestines."

In addition, while Pushkin was taken home, he lost a lot of blood, since Danzas, who was gathering in a hurry, did not even have bandages with him to at least somehow bandage his wound.

[center] For some reason, no one has ever fired from this weapon: flint tromblon Place of origin: Transcaucasia. Dating ser. XIX century Material, technique: steel, white alloy, copper alloy, bone; casting, forging, carving, chasing, inlay, nielloing. Length: 38,2 cm; barrel length: 28,6 cm. Inventory number V.O.-5792. Photo of the State Hermitage

Well, now, at the end of the curtain, there are some very interesting facts related to this duel and the death of our great poet.

Here, for example, what happened after the duel, the correspondent of the German newspaper Blatter fur literarische Unterhaltung ("Leaflet for language studies"):

“Shortly before his death, Pushkin turned to the Tsar with a request to provide for his family, which he left in poverty. Instead of answering, the emperor sent his confessor to him to ask: does he deny God? Pushkin announced that he had repented and freed himself from all doubts. Having received this answer, the Emperor announced that he was granting his widow a pension and accepting children for upbringing in state institutions. Pushkin received a note about this, written in pencil by Tsar Nikolai Pavlovich himself. "

And I must say that the Russian autocrat kept his word. A special guardianship was established over the children and property of Pushkin, which was instructed to pay his debts. Moreover, only the debt to the state treasury of Pushkin was 43 rubles 333 kopecks, and Nikolai was ordered to write off this entire amount. As for the many private debts, which totaled 33 rubles, the emperor paid for that too. In addition, it was decided to pay the widow and daughter a pension before marriage and give their sons to the pages with payment of 92 rubles to each before entering the service, as well as publish at public expense in favor of the widow and her children a collection of the poet's works and pay the family 500 thousand rubles at a time. ...

Further, it is believed - and even Marina Tsvetaeva wrote about this in verse that Pushkin was buried almost secretly, and the coffin was accompanied only by an official of the postal department and AI Turgenev, a friend of the poet. However, the correspondent of the German newspaper Frankfurter-Oder-Postamt Zeitung ("Bulletin of the post office of Frankfurt an der Oder") described the farewell to the poet in a completely different way:

“Alexander von Pushkin, the most famous of Russian poets, died at the age of 37. His father is still alive and owns an estate in the Pskov province, to which the body of the deceased was taken after the last church ceremony was performed on him. In the presence of crowds of worshipers on the day of his funeral, one could judge the sympathy of the whole society, which was excited by his death, as a result of his literary fame, acquired by the deceased throughout Russia. Countless crowds from all walks of life gathered for the church service at the Stables Church. Among the worshipers one could notice both the most important persons and many foreign diplomats. "

And, let's put it this way, what was the point of distorting the truth then?

Comments

[Mordvin 3]

As for the many private debts, which totaled 92 rubles, the emperor paid for that too.

The poet lived well. I remember how the Komsomolskaya Pravda summoned the spirit of Pushkin and asked him how much the pickled cucumbers cost. The poet was offended and disappeared.

[Sling cutter]

An interesting article, here about everything, both about pistols and about a kind king
Zy.Srazu recalls the stories of Shura Karetny on this topic: "Tsar-father, defend!"

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Stroporez

and about the good king

Pushkin was not allowed to travel abroad. They didn't let "our everything" go abroad. So he rode around Mother Russia.
The plague will pick me up
Only frost ossifies
Either the barrier will hit me,
Unstoppable disabled person ...

[tasha]

about pistols and about a kind king

Well, you give ... An article about Pushkin!
"...
No matter what they say -
All will bring one to the women!
King
Are you back in your tune?
I’ll go to jail, keep in mind!
I’m not just balabon,
Well, I'm leading a policy! "

Do not be angry, I am without malice ..

[Sling cutter]

Quote: tasha

Do not be angry, I am without malice ..

In no case!
This is how I wanted to troll Shpakovsky
Incidentally, on the channel "Spets" I saw an interview with Alexei Shpakovsky, if not relatives, I thought.

[vladcub]

Ask V. Oh, and he, in turn, will ask
- Did you like it? I tried.
-How to say.
Into the topic of a mythical dialogue. Remembered a comic story (as a child I heard from my elders)
- Well, they sang yesterday at the corner.
- This is me and my father. I sat down and he sang along.
- Wolves howled worse.
- I’ve already gone to bed, but my father still stayed.
PS.
V.O., comrades, he told this story specifically to smile
As the old song was sung
Captain, Captain, smile
After all, a smile is the flag of the ship

[Sling cutter]

Quote: vladcub

specially to smile
As the old song was sung
Captain, Captain, smile
After all, a smile is the flag of the ship

Support!

[Blacksmith 55]

So it turns out our Pushkin was still that bully. )))))).
I don't know how he shot, but he wrote poetry .... I read it.

[vladcub]

That's for sure: he had good poetry. And he drew well. Anyway, better than

[Tavrik]

You read his epigrams ... in general, it's amazing how he lived up to 37 years with such a sarcastic language.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The article is really remarkable. I didn't know that Pushkin had so many duel challenges on his account.
Thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich.
PS Here three years ago, on watch, I got into the hands of a detective novel. Cheap, silly, but ... The main line is the dueling pistol from which Lermontov was killed! How!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The main line is the dueling pistol from which Lermontov was killed! How!

There is generally a detective, Sherlock Holmes will not guess. According to one version, evil Caucasians shot at Lermontov from a ravine when Martynov fired into the air.

[The leader of the Redskins]

This version, just, seemed to be present - the pistol was found at the Cossack grandfather, whose ancestor, like, was sitting behind the bushes!

[Catfish]

Hi Igor. There the distance was not "pistol" and, if the version is correct, then they worked with a carbine.

[vladcub]

Kostya, of course you are "dragging" in pistols, but could not your contemporaries really distinguish a pistol bullet from a gun?

[Catfish]

So it was there the calibers walked as they please.

[Pane Kohanku]

So it was there the calibers walked as they please.

Uncle Kostya, I'm sorry, I'll stick sideways to your comment.
I would like to correct it a little - apparently, a typo.

1836 - another duel. Pushkin summoned Prince Nikolai Repin. The prince was outraged by the verses written about him, and of course the publicized ones. But the parties came to a reconciliation.

The prince was Nikolai Grigorievich Repнin - the hero of the attack of the cavalry guards at Austerlitz!
Repnin raised himself in the stirrups, shouting:
- Horse Guards ... trot - at a gallop! March...
The cavalry guards held themselves upright in their saddles, like sculptures, like centaurs merging with horses. The long broadswords, lowered to the feet, gleamed terribly with a cold blue. Prince Repnin galloped ahead, raising his hand above him, sparkling from the rings, so that even in the back rows everyone could see - he was ahead, he was with them, he would not turn off the path ... (V.S. Pikul, "To Each His Own").
True, I did not understand whether the matter between Pushkin and Repnin came to a challenge, or whether it ended in a showdown by correspondence.

[Catfish]

In my opinion, it is not comme il faut to shoot a military officer with a shtafirka, be he Pushkin at least three times.

[Pane Kohanku]

In my opinion, it is not comme il faut to shoot a military officer with a shtafirka, be he Pushkin at least three times.

Pushkin's example shows that you should not be too stunned, and at the same time rely on the guardian angel. In general, most of the calls are downright stupid. When the time came for a serious duel, Pushkin was not lucky ...

[Catfish]

Here, willy-nilly, one well-known proverb suggests itself: "No matter how much rope twists, the end will still be."

[Pane Kohanku]

Here, willy-nilly, one well-known proverb suggests itself: "No matter how much rope twists, the end will still be."

In short, in vain did Alexander Sergeich so many times tempt fate with the stubbornness of a maniac. He screwed up his guardian angel ...
Pay attention to the photo in the article:

Dueling capsule pistol with a ramrod. Germany, Russia, St. Petersburg (castle). Dating late XNUMXth-mid-XNUMXth century
Dating question. If it could have been produced at the end of the 18th century - then it was originally flint, and then the mechanism was replaced with a capsule one? So?

[Catfish]

Well, yes, quite. Replaced the lock and that's it.

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

You have the wrong look. A nobleman could shoot with another nobleman regardless of the place of service. rank and position. Not comme il faut to shoot a commoner.

[Catfish]

It's not about service, but about combat experience and the ability to handle weapons. And a commoner with a dueling pistol ... well, you gave it away.

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

The merchant's son Pavel Guchkov (although not a proletarian, but still not a nobleman) fought twice in a duel, and his first opponent was Count Uvarov, the second was Colonel Myasoyedov. In addition, two more of his challenges ended in reconciliation of the parties.

[Catfish]

Andrei You contradict yourself:
[quote] A nobleman could shoot with another nobleman regardless of the place of service. rank and position. Not comme il faut to shoot a commoner. [/ quote]
And further: the merchant's son Pavel Guchkov (although not a proletarian, but still not a nobleman) fought twice in a duel, and his first opponent was a count ... [/ quote]
I wonder what kind of Guchkov is this?

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

I was wrong - not Pavel, but Alexander Guchkov - leader of the Octobrist party, deputy and chairman of the 3rd State Duma, minister of the Provisional Government.

[Catfish]

Nuuu ... Tady - oh!

[vladcub]

And a notarized note is glued to the post: "I, Okhrim Khomyachkov killed Lermontov out of him"?

[Mister X]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I didn't know that Pushkin had so many duel challenges on his account.

I am from Moldova, at the time of Pushkin - the Bessarabian province.
In our area, the poet lived in exile for 3 years.
The house-museum of Pushkin in Chisinau, the estate of General Inzov, the spring of the gypsy Zemfira have survived and are still operating ...
People of the older generation have been to Pushkin's places many times.
Duels brought special glory to the poet, in addition to the works written in Moldova.

According to my information, in Bessarabia, the poet was involved in duels at least 12 times.
Some of them did not take place.
Let me add to your story with stories about 6 of them.

Duel One: Pushkin and Colonel Fyodor Orlov

A month after his arrival in Chisinau, Pushkin was visiting the house of General Mikhail Fedorovich Orlov, a famous Decembrist who was a member of the Ovid-25 Masonic lodge.
Orlov has always gathered the high society of Chisinau, who at that time professed views that would today be called "liberal".
It is clear that the famous freethinker Pushkin was received in this house with great cordiality.

In October 1820, his brother, Colonel Fyodor Fedorovich Orlov, came to visit Mikhail Orlov's house.
Not wanting to participate in boring political disputes, Fyodor Orlov invited Colonels Alekseev and Liprandi to play billiards.
They also called Pushkin, with whom Fyodor Orlov wanted to get to know better.

The game went on quietly, until Orlov and Alekseev decided to drink a round of three vases of "zhzhenka" (strong vodka).
Pushkin decided to join, but the strong drink “hit him in the head,” and the great poet began to have fun and interfere with the game.

Further, as Liprandi wrote, events developed as follows:
"Pushkin laughed at Fyodor Orlov, and he threw him out of the window for this."
Pushkin was short, Orlov, on the contrary, was a huge strongman.
Returning to the living room, Pushkin grabbed a billiard ball and threw it at Orlov, hitting him in the shoulder.
Orlov wanted to hit the insolent man with a cue, but Pushkin put out two pistols and said:
- "I will kill!"
Orlov accepted the challenge to a duel, but thanks to Liprandi's efforts, the duel was avoided.

[vladcub]

Mr. X, a little clarification: "" burnt sugar was poured with vodka, or rather, strong alcohol. They didn't know vodka at that time

[Mister X]

Quote: vladcub

They didn't know vodka at that time

Thanks for clarifying!
It is written so that modern people understand what it is about.
It could have been Slivovitsa (plum brandy) or moonshine.
There are a lot of nationalities in Moldova, a lot of recipes for strong drinks.
My wife and I in the winter cook pepper vodka with honey and spices
Here is not yet filtered

[vladcub]

I would like to try, but by looking at it we can say that it will be: "spicy taste" (maybe you remember Raikin?). And I use homemade grape

[Mister X]

Quote: vladcub

in appearance we can say that it will be: "spisphic taste" (maybe you remember Raikin?).

"Girls" can drink our pepper vodka without washing down, and without frowning.
Strong, but tender, aromatic, spicy-sweet.
As you swallow - a whole range of flavors.
The recipe was taken from the winner of some competition.
It turns out better than Nemirovskaya

[vladcub]

Nemirovsky did not try

[garri-lin]

It will be delicious. Can I have a recipe? Unless of course it's not a secret.

[Mister X]

Quote: garri-lin

Will benefit from appetizing

Thank you!

Quote: garri-lin

Can I have a recipe? Unless of course it's not a secret.

Of course
Cool recipe for homemade peppercorns.
Gold medal in the category "Tinctures" at the congress of the distillers of the Chernozem region.
We tried several recipes, this one we liked the most.

[garri-lin]

Thank. I thought the composition of spices and herbs would be wider. I'll try to make it for trial.

[Mister X]

Quote: garri-lin

Thank you

Please

Quote: garri-lin

I thought the composition of spices and herbs would be wider.

There are also more complex recipes.
The simpler the better

Quote: garri-lin

I'll try to make it for trial.

The main thing is not to start trying in the 1st week.

[garri-lin]

I can withstand. Some recipes have been infused for months.

[Mister X]

Quote: garri-lin

Some recipes have been infused for months.

Then you will definitely succeed!

[Aviator_]

They didn't know vodka at that time

There was such a graduate of MGIMO, William Pokhlebkin (specialization - Scandinavian countries). In the 70-80s, he published a number of books on the cuisines of the countries of the world. Thanks to his efforts, it was possible in the 90s to defend the Russian brand "vodka" from the claims of the Poles. I don’t remember exactly, but it seems that vodka in Russia has become known since the time of Ivan the Terrible, so it was already in the time of Pushkin.

[Undecim]

They didn't know vodka at that time
You are wrong about vodka. Just don't read Pokhlebkin and the fact that he "defended the brand".

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Mister X

Pushkin decided to join, but the strong drink “hit him in the head,” and the great poet began to have fun and interfere with the game.

Further, as Liprandi wrote, events developed as follows:
"Pushkin laughed at Fyodor Orlov, and he threw him out of the window for this."
Pushkin was short, Orlov, on the contrary, was a huge strongman.
Returning to the living room, Pushkin grabbed a billiard ball and threw it at Orlov, hitting him in the shoulder.
Orlov wanted to hit the insolent man with a cue, but Pushkin put out two pistols and said:
- "I will kill!"
Orlov accepted the challenge to a duel, but thanks to Liprandi's efforts, the duel was avoided.

Purely everyday And purely in the Chisinau style)). I lived on Chekany

[Mister X]

Quote: Krasnodar

Purely everyday life laughing And purely in the Chisinau style)).

We are all smeared with one world.
I remember how Alexey Panin was playing tricks in Chisinau.
After the premiere of the film "Star".
He invited me to the table, an hour later I left disappointed ...

Quote: Krasnodar

I lived on Chekany

And I lived for 40 years at Botanika, Tolbukhina.
On the magal, the locals also knew how to "have a cultural rest"
There is also something to say about Little Raspberries, Old Mail and Mint ...

[Krasnodar]

The most infamous places))

[Mister X]

Duel two: Pushkin and the Frenchman Deguilly

A former French officer, Degilli, who lived in Chisinau, was subordinate to his wife, and Pushkin had the imprudence to laugh at this.
He insulted him in reply, and Pushkin challenged the Frenchman to a duel.
Degilli refused to accept the challenge, and he himself made everything public.
In connection with the refusal of the latter to accept the challenge to a duel, Pushkin on June 6, 1821 wrote him a sharp letter, and then drew a caricature.
In the letter, Pushkin writes about a saber duel.
The fact is that earlier Pushkin challenged one French emigrant to a duel, a certain Baron de S ...,

who, having the right to choose a weapon, offered a gun, in view of the intimidating superiority with which his opponent wielded a pistol.

Thanks to the amusement that this newest kind of duel aroused among the seconds and opponents, a reconciliation between the Baron and Pushkin was achieved.

[Mister X]

Duel three: Pushkin and Starov

In 1822, Pushkin's cocky character was already widely discussed in Kishinev, so there were many who wanted to besiege the daring poet.
At one of the balls, one of the junior officers ordered a quadrille, but Pushkin overpaid the musicians and ordered a mazurka.
This was enough for the head of the offended officer, Lieutenant Colonel Starov, to challenge Pushkin.

The fight took place in a strong blizzard, they fired at first at 16 steps, then the distance was reduced to 12.
In total, two shots were fired.
It is curious that this is one of the few duels in which Pushkin fired, and the first one.
Most of the fights were either resolved by reconciliation, or the poet refused to shoot.
It should also be admitted that the poet never wounded his opponent.
There is every reason to believe that the mistake made in the duel with Starov was deliberate.
The composure of Pushkin aroused respect in Starov, who told him:

You stand as well under bullets as you write ...

Pushkin answered Starov with mutual respect.

[Mister X]

Duel Four: Pushkin and Lanov

The elderly state councilor Lanov began to talk at dinner that wine can cure any disease.
Pushkin ridiculed his speech, instantly composing a poem:

Fight, grunts, boob boob,
You won't wait, my friend Lanov,
A slap in the face of my hand.
Your solemn face
Goosily so much like a woman
That only asks for jelly.

Under the friendly laughter of the audience, Pushkin was summoned to a duel.
However, Inzov, who returned in time, settled the matter and did not allow the duel to take place.

[vladcub]

I read somewhere about the first duel with Orlov, and the rest are not familiar

[Mister X]

Duel XNUMX: Pushkin and Todoraki

Here is a Jewess with Tadarashka.
The flame burns in the scoundrel,
He keeps his paw under his shirt,
A snout on her face.
I'm cold all over with horror:
Ah, Jewess, God will kill!
According to Moses,
The Cowgirl is going to die!

Pushkin wrote these poems about Todoraki (Todorashka), a famous Moldovan nobleman and merchant.
According to the memoirs of Prince Gorchakov, Pushkin had a certain passion to tease people of other nationalities.
In fact, the poet laughed at everyone, without exception, ridiculing stupidity, not nationality.

By the way, one of the reasons for the conflict was the fact that Pushkin uttered insolence to Todoraki's wife, and when he wanted to stand up for her, he slapped him in the face and challenged him to a duel.
The duel did not take place, because Inzov put Pushkin under arrest for two weeks.

[vladcub]

"a nobleman and a merchant" in fact, if Todoraki was a merchant, he would not have been able to duel with Pushkin: class differences would not have allowed

[Mister X]

Quote: vladcub

if Todoraki was a merchant

Iordache Todorache Balsh.
Moldavian nobleman, boyar.
Chin - Spatar (Spătar), from the word spatha: sword, sword.
an official position at the court of the sovereign, who first had the task of wearing the sword and mace of the ruler at the festivities, and then commanded the cavalry, and in the absence of the sovereign became the supreme commander of the army.

From 1776 Iordake Balsh owned the town of Cadobeşti.
Its population was 2.621 people.
This is 2340 hectares of arable land, 39 hectares of hayfields, 119 hectares of gardens, 69 hectares of pastures, 6 hectares of forests, 12 hectares of swamps and ponds.
There were: 250 horses, 431 head of cattle, 500 sheep, 368 pigs and 75 hives.
Of course the surplus was sold.

Quote: vladcub

he would not have been able to duel with Pushkin: class differences would not have allowed

Most likely to Alexander Sergeich

[vladcub]

All nobles were considered equal. He forgot his last name, he slapped Nicholas 1 in the face. like a nobleman to a nobleman.
And Pushkin, on the female side, was Rurikovich, so "everything in a bunch"

[Mister X]

Quote: vladcub

And Pushkin on the female side was Rurikovich

Then the question of class differences is closed?

[vladcub]

Probably closed

[Mister X]

Duel Six: Pushkin and Warrant Officer Zubov

This is one of the most famous duels that Pushkin scholars and historians love to remember.
The plot formed the basis for the story "Shot".
Pushkin publicly accused Zubov of cheating and refused to pay the loss.
Of course, he was forced to challenge Pushkin to a duel.
The funniest thing about this story is that Pushkin came to a duel ... with a cap full of cherries and had breakfast with them.
Zubov shot at Pushkin (by), and Pushkin himself refused to shoot.
The duel ended in reconciliation.

[Yurahip]

It is probably still necessary to analyze the connection between the dates of the challenge (duel) of Pushkin and the time of writing his works. Maybe an explicit connection-challenge-duel-a huge surge of adrenaline and hormones-a great poem! A kind of drug.

[astra wild2]

Yura, glad to see you on the site. I thought that you left the site forever

[PSih2097]

Quote: Stroporez

I immediately recall the stories of Shura Karetny on this topic: "Tsar, father, defend!"

as I read a book - I remembered ...

- ... that your Pushkin is a genius poet, I have no doubt, but his talents as a prose writer, frankly speaking, cause me doubts. The only more or less decent works that I can recall offhand are Dubrovsky and The Captain's Daughter. They have a pretty decent average level, but everything else, it seems to me, does not stand up to serious criticism. This, of course, is only my opinion, but nevertheless I suspect that in their perception by people, the decisive role is played not by the talent of the author, but by the promoted brand of his surname. And Pushkin, I think, understood this perfectly well, it was not for nothing that his prose, unlike poetry, was never too large-scale, and the number of his poems is many times greater.

Sinitsyn, in addition to being a first-class navigator and knew physics well, was also a fan of leafing through books at his leisure, so he understood literature, albeit superficially. But the fact that Julia is fond of poetry, and good poetry, was a surprise for Vasily. He believed that the girl, like most representatives of the current young generation, is only interested in music in the style of breathing and breathing, songs of the level "I'm out of my mind" and, possibly, some other nonsense. However, he caught himself thinking that the elders thought the same about his generation. Nothing, as they say, is new. A normal person came out of him, and from these, you see, decent people will turn out. The future will show, of course, but the problem of fathers and children is absolutely not new and tends to repeat itself with enviable regularity. And since he and his daughter almost did not communicate, even when she lived with him, then why be surprised at his ignorance? Here you must rather be upset, since you yourself, but for now listen to a fascinating conversation between two amateurs.

Meanwhile, the dispute continued:

- But he is a poet of genius! Can a genius be a bad person?

- You are welcome. Hitler is a genius speaker.

- Well, you compared ...

“Already on“ you ”. Quickly, however, "thought Kovalev.

- I just gave an example. And I am not saying at all that your beloved Alexander Sergeevich is a scoundrel or something else like that. In everything, except for the poetic gift, he is an ordinary person, nothing more. And it is human nature to make mistakes, to have both advantages and disadvantages. Actually, this is what makes us human.

- Well, yes, you also say that his shortcomings outweighed his merits. Anyway, who are you to judge him?

- Don't go into the bottle. - Sinitsyn spoke calmly, without the slightest irritation in his voice. It was this calmness, it seems, that allowed him to convince the girl, and not to put pressure on her with authority. Kovalev has never been able to do this, however, he has not yet tried. - Just try to think with your brain: what, besides poetry, did he do good in life? So, offhand? Surely a lot, but nothing outstanding, in any case, you can't remember anything quickly.

- Can…

- I remembered, I would have said. And yet his shortcomings ruined him.

- He died in a duel ...

- Yeah. And the bastard Dantes killed the great poet. So?

- Well yes…

- And by the way, in some ways, Dantes was right.

- What?!

- Quiet, quiet, don't swear. Think about it this way, calmly: what happens if you discard the personalities of the duelists? Dantes need not be thrown back - the most ordinary foreign officer in the Russian service. By the way, from some side, even a relative of Pushkin, it seems. But this is so, by the way. Throwing away personalities - what do we have? And we have a very unpleasant and, moreover, banal picture: a certain nobleman, a boor and a womanizer, accustomed to getting away with everything, because it’s not comme il faut to beat his face, challenges another nobleman, moreover, an officer to a duel. And naturally he gets a bullet in the brazen head. Or, in this case, in the stomach, which is not important. The duel simply could not have had any other result.

- It was murder!

- Well yes. So what? What could Dantes do in that situation, even if he did not want to bang the boorish talent? Well, try to think?

- Do not lead to a duel. Reduce everything to a joke, for example, or apologize. Well I do not know…

- Already brought. Apologizing to nobles who were confident in their innocence was, as they say, a trap. No one would understand, and why, forgive me, the fright, if Dantes himself considered himself right? And then, there was also some kind of intrigue with women, I don't remember exactly. Not interested, you know, on purpose, there was no interest. So it was Pushkin who summoned him, not Pushkin.

- Then don't shoot. Or shoot by.

- It's easy for you to say. Imagine a man with a reputation for being a good shooter is aiming at you. Are you going to shoot past? And here's the crap. Least of all, you will be worried about what he is, on the other side of the line, a poet, you will only worry about preserving your own precious life. And you will shoot as accurately as possible, you will not go anywhere. A few hours ago, if you had a pistol, would you not shoot? Well, you shouldn't lie to yourself, you would, and how. But the gypsies are a musical people, and among those present there were probably SUCH singers! ..

- Well, he could have shot in the hand, for example ...

- This is not the simplest task of modern pistols, but of the junk that was used in those days, it is almost impossible to solve. No, purely from the point of view of a duel, Dantes acted absolutely correctly, as befits a professional military man, and if Pushkin had not been a famous poet, no one would have remembered him.

- But Dantes could refuse the duel.

- Could not. You know, in those days the word "honor" was not an empty phrase. To refuse a duel meant to lose honor, and that was worse than death. Honestly, it's a pity that duels are forbidden in our time, a lot of all trash would think three hundred times before opening their mouth ...

[bistrov.]

Quote: Mordvin 3

The poet lived well

Somehow you put it "badly" (poetry), and envy, as you know, is also not welcomed even in the Bible, so "... bring up the best qualities in yourself, man ...".

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bistrov.

and envy, as you know, is also not welcome

And where did you get the idea that I envy him? No really ... Nevertheless, Pushkin lived happily ever after, one of his carriage under six thousand cost, if sclerosis does not change me. What shishi did he live on? At the age of seventeen, he challenged his uncle to a duel, where did this milk sucker get the money?

[tasha]

"When I was seventeen I challenged my uncle to a duel, where did this milk sucker get the money?" I don’t see any connection, I don’t need money to challenge him to a duel.
I will leave a link to the article:
https://russian7.ru/post/skolko-deneg-bylo-u-aleksandra-serge/

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tasha

I don't see the connection

Dueling pistols were worth a lot, however.

[tasha]

Vladimir, could shoot from pistols provided by other people.
For example, and from whose pistols did Pushkin shoot in his duel with Dantes? Here is a photo of a dueling set, according to one version. "These pistols belonged to Baron Ernest de Barant, a diplomat who provided them to his friend, Monsieur d'Arsiac for the duel between Pushkin and Monsieur Dantes - Monsieur d'Archiac was one of the seconds." But this is only a version!

I think Vyacheslav Olegovich should be asked a question ..

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tasha

For example, and from whose pistols did Pushkin shoot in his duel with Dantes?

He was already famous. And at seventeen, where did you get it? On the Big coach house?

[tasha]

Vladimir, you have taken an incomprehensible position of a stubborn debate about anything. And not very attentive today.

Let's start with the very first challenge of 1816. Then 17-year-old Pushkin challenged his own uncle Pavel Hannibal to a duel due to the fact that he beat off the girl Loshakova from him at the ball. The duel, however, was canceled.

My rosy critic, my fat-bellied mocker,
Ready century to mock our languid muse,
Come here, sit down with me,
Try if we can cope with the damned blues

[Richard]

taskha (Mikhail Kitaev): Whose pistols did Pushkin shoot in his duel with Dantes? I think Vyacheslav Olegovich should be asked a question ..

Michael
Let me try to answer this question.
Both Pushkin and Dantes came to a duel with their pistols. As it is clear from the military court case, the seconds came to the place of the duel with their dueling headsets, each of which consisted of a pair of pistols and accessories to them.
“The pistols from which I fired,” J. Dantes showed at the investigation, “were given to me by my Second at the place of the duel; Pushkin, however, had his own. ”Presenting the testimony of K. K. Danzas, Pushkin's second, the commission of inquiry stated:

“The barrier was designated by the overcoats of the seconds. Then Mr. d'Arsiac and he (Danzas. - VF) each loaded their own pair of pistols and handed one to the opponents. "

In other words, Pushkin was armed with a pistol from a headset brought by Danzas, and Dantes - from a headset brought by d'Arsiac.
1.The shot that cut short Pushkin's life was fired from a pistol handed to Dantes, according to him, by a second at the scene of the duel. The investigation was quite satisfied with this statement and did not try to establish the true owner of the headset, brought to the Black River by d'Arsiac, Dantes' second.
2. Pushkin fired from his own weapon - in the literal sense of the word. It is known that on January 24, 1837, he took silverware to the usurer A.P. Shishkin, on the security of which he received 2200 rubles; And part of this money went to pay for pistols, which he chose in the "Store of military things" by Alexei Kurakin on Nevsky Prospect. According to the investigation of K.K.Danzas, Pushkin's second, "these pistols were completely similar to d'Arsiac's pistols." Three days later, on January 27, at about 2 pm, Danzas, having agreed to meet with Pushkin at Wolf's confectionery, went to get the pistols. Putting them in the sleigh, Danzas drove up to a confectionery located a stone's throw from Kurakin's shop; from here the path of Pushkin and Danzas went to the Black River, to the place of the duel.
The dueling code allowed the opponents to use their own pistols, if the difference in the length of their barrels is insignificant, and the calibers are identical

[tasha]

Thank you for the detailed comment.
According to one version, A.S. Pushkin's dueling pistols by the famous French gunsmith Lepage are kept in the Lviv Historical Museum.

[bistrov.]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Where does this sucker get the money?

Can't read? It is said in the article "banker", which means a high-class player, then, he received a "salary" from the treasury, income from the publication of his works, estates, etc. Almost all the nobles then lived like this ..., moreover, Pushkin and his family lived quite modestly, not even in a mansion, but in an ordinary, rented apartment, did not have their own exit (horses).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bistrov.

Pushkin and his family lived quite modestly, not even in a mansion, but in an ordinary, rented apartment, did not have their own exit (horses).

Who told you that? I am reluctant to look for sources, but I remember that Pushkin lived very well.

[tasha]

“According to Smirnov-Sokolsky's calculations, over 17 years of his literary career, Pushkin earned 255 180 73 rubles in bank notes. This amounted to 2 thousand silver rubles. this amounted to about 200 thousand dollars (when converted to a modern rate). " From an article about the money of A.S. Pushkin.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tasha

According to the calculations of Smirnov-Sokolsky,

And before that, was he starving, or what?
Have a good friend
My poor youth
Let's drink from grief; where is the mug?
The heart will be more fun.

[Senior seaman]

Pushkin's landlords are not poor. The grandfather had EMNIP 4000 souls, his father got about a thousand during the division. Probably threw it to my son.

[vladcub]

"not even bad" owed one to the treasury: "43 rubles 333 kopecks"

[bistrov.]

К

Quote: Mordvin 3

that Pushkin lived very well.

Pushkin's last apartment on the Moika in St. Petersburg has been preserved, even the couch in Pushkin's office-library, on which he died, has been preserved. Now there is a museum open to the public.

[Avior]

Quite possibly he just didn't know. This is not a lordly business - to be interested in the price of cucumbers :(

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Avior

This is not a lordly business - to be interested in the price of cucumbers :(

That is exactly what he said to the reporters of the Komsomolskaya Pravda.

[Avior]

It turns out that we are on the same wavelength with him.
In my heart I am already a master, it turns out.
It remains only to tighten up the financial side

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

The poet lived well

No comment. Low.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

Low.

Do not make yourself an idol...

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Do not make yourself an idol..

And do you see the meaning of this phrase in spitting?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

And do you see the meaning of this phrase in spitting?

And where, excuse me, spitting? The fact that I called seventeen-year-old Pushkin a milk sucker? What else? I would be glad to see your comments.

[Flooding]

do not play around.
see above for your quote in my post.
your joys are not interesting to me.
the main thing is not to hate the great poet.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

do not play around.

And I do not bother.

Quote: Flood

the main thing is not to hate the great poet.

A seventeen-year-old sucker challenges his uncle to a duel. What is your reaction? Well, let's ... Without verbiage: "So this is Pushkin!"

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

And I do not bother.

I wrote to you clearly that the claim against you is addressed with your own quote

Quote: Mordvin 3

The poet lived well.

from the Explanatory Dictionary of Ozhegov:
Poem - a bad, mediocre poetry writer, rhyming.

You have done something wrong.
So be a man, admit it.
And stop covering up your low deed.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

from the Explanatory Dictionary of Ozhegov:
Poem - a bad, mediocre poetry writer, rhyming.

I also mean the latter.

Quote: Flood

rhymer.

[Flooding]

nightmare.
these words are synonymous.
with an equally negative connotation.

So you insist on your meanness?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

insist on your meanness

Wow, you wrote me down to meanness only because I called your idol a seventeen-year-old milk sucker. Let's shout further. Spartak is a champion!

[Flooding]

you're a shape-shifter, too.
I have already referred more than once to the reason for the prevailing opinion about you.

These are your low words in the very first comment.

Quote: Mordvin 3

The poet lived well.

I'm ashamed for you

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

I'm ashamed for you

But do not.
I don’t understand, is a lyricist an insult?

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

I don't understand, the lyricist is that, an insult

repeatedly

Quote: Flood

from the Explanatory Dictionary of Ozhegov:
Poem - a bad, mediocre poetry writer, rhyming.

this shouldn't be news to you anymore
you read this message of mine and replied to it
stop curling like a loach
it doesn't paint you

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

you read this message of mine and replied to it
stop curling like a loach
it doesn't paint you

Okay. I answer. I consider Pushkin a genius poet-poet. Then, whatever you want, think so.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Let's shout further. Spartak is a champion!

Who is a fan of Zenit,
It is always worth it.
Who is a fan of Spartak,
That prostate has cancer!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Narak-zempo

Who is a fan of Spartak,
That prostate has cancer!

I am a child of the 80s. Spartak champion, diving into a can!

[vladcub]

If you Pushkin "rhymelette" then excuse me. If you think you are cooler than tady, call me

[bk0010]

Quote: Flood

the main thing is not to hate the great poet.

And why is that? The fact that he is a poet is not an indulgence.

[Flooding]

Quote: bk0010

And why is that? The fact that he is a poet is not an indulgence.

because finding fault without reason and justification is a sure sign of a boor

[bk0010]

Quote: Flood

because finding fault without reason and justification is a sure sign of a boor

For no reason? You read about Pushkin: he ran into trouble all the time, it is not clear how he lived to be 37 years old.

[Flooding]

Quote: bk0010

For no reason? You read about Pushkin: he ran into trouble all the time, it is not clear how he lived to be 37 years old.

does it give anyone the right to call him a poetry?

and there for the sake of completeness:
HATE - scold, defame (from the Ozhegov Explanatory Dictionary)
the meaning of the word defame also needs to be deciphered?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Flood

And do you see the meaning of this phrase in spitting?

Since when does it mean to spit on things by their proper names?
And "don't make yourself an idol" is a perfectly appropriate phrase. People, in general, react calmly when they learn that the motives of other people's actions were not as beautiful and exalted as they would like. But when it comes to those whom they elevated to heroes, they are bridged and aggression begins. How many howling was, for example, when it turned out that Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya was actually a schizophrenic.

[Flooding]

Quote: Narak-zempo

Since when does it mean to spit on things by their proper names?
And "don't make yourself an idol" is a perfectly appropriate phrase

Read the thread before writing teachings based on a comment taken out of context.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Flood

Read the thread before writing teachings based on a comment taken out of context.

I just read it before writing.
You are aggrieved precisely on the fact that the unsightly personal qualities and actions of Pushkin are called by their proper names without a discount on the fact that "this is Pushkin."

[Flooding]

Quote: Narak-zempo

You are aggrieved precisely on the fact that the unsightly personal qualities and actions of Pushkin are called by their proper names without a discount on the fact that "this is Pushkin."

you missed a lot
would have been killed in a duel

Quote: Mordvin 3

The poet lived well

Quote: Flood

from the Explanatory Dictionary of Ozhegov:
Poem - a bad, mediocre poetry writer, rhyming.

Meey had a complaint about the very first words of the first comment
hold back the horses of your fantasy

[Kart]

Only a duel will settle your dispute.
On keyboards with 10 steps.

[Proxima]

Quote: Narak-zempo

when it turned out that Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya was actually a schizophrenic.

But I found out for myself that YOU, to put it mildly, are a person who is very limited in intellect and conscience, otherwise they would not have written anything like that.

[astra wild2]

Quote: Proxima

Quote: Narak-zempo

when it turned out that Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya was actually a schizophrenic.

But I found out for myself that YOU, to put it mildly, are a person who is very limited in intellect and conscience, otherwise they would not have written anything like that.

The word is spinning in my memory: "LOW"

[vladcub]

"in fact, she was a schizophrenic" in my youth, NOBODY doubted that Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya heroine, and now .... "About times, about morals"

[astra wild2]

"In fact, she was a schizophrenic," now I thought, but how would Stalin, so beloved here, react?
Probably the reaction was not in the form of -?

[Avior]

excuse me for interfering, and, not wanting to take any side, I note nevertheless that Pushkin himself was much less scrupulous about the use of this word.

Eugene Onegin

Chapter X

Stanza VI
Perhaps, about Shibolet1 people,
I would dedicate an ode to you,
But the lyricist is noble2
I have already been warned ...

2 "But the poet is great" - Prince Ivan Mikhailovich Dolgorukov (1764-1825) - poet, satirist, who wrote the poem "Perhaps".

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Долгоруков,_Иван_Михайлович
Dolgorukov, of course, is not Pushkin in terms of fame, but he is a quite worthy and quite noticeable man. Including poetry
[Quote] [/ quote]
http://az.lib.ru/d/dolgorukij_i_m/text_0020.shtml
That did not prevent Pushkin himself from using this word in his address.

[Flooding]

Quote: Avior

sorry for interfering, and, not wanting to take any side, I note nevertheless that Pushkin himself was much less scrupulous about the use of this word

the point is not even that Pushkin can be forgiven for some liberties.
and not that after two centuries the word could acquire a different meaning.
rather, in the performance of the great masters of words, these very words acquire many shades.
let the citizen first learn to at least own a rhyme, then we'll see
yes, even if he writes clearly in prose, so that he does not have to turn himself out later, "but I had something else in mind"

[Avior]

forgive some liberties.

I think the word "some" is superfluous
read the memoirs of contemporaries - Pushkin did not really limit himself either in words or in deeds.

[tasha]

Here Pushkin is buried; he is with a young muse,
I spent a cheerful century with love, laziness,
I didn’t do good, but I was a soul,
Honestly, a kind person.

[Flooding]

Quote: Avior

I think the word "some" is superfluous
read the memoirs of contemporaries - Pushkin did not really limit himself either in words or in deeds.

shall we speak in detail?
I answered that quote from Pushkin that you quoted.
now you want to "not want to take any side" to discuss the personal qualities of the poet?

[Avior]

What for?
I don't see why this is necessary.

[Snail N9]

There is a version that Pushkin did not die, but changed into ... Dumas. There are a lot of inconsistencies in their biographies, which are explained only by this version. There are several investigative films on YouTube of the version that Pushkin and Dumas are the same person. Quite interesting facts are given there.

[Proxima]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

The poet lived well.

Alexander Sergeevich is a literary genius who are born once in a millennium. Only Homer or Shakespeare can be put on a par with him. Pushkin is undoubtedly the cultural heritage of all Mankind. One novel in verse "Eugene Onegin" is worth a lot! And you say - a lyricist ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Proxima

One novel in verse "Eugene Onegin" is worth a lot! And you say - a lyricist ...

Yes. I don’t respect Pushkin, at least kill yourself on the table. He is an intellectual.

[Proxima]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Proxima

One novel in verse "Eugene Onegin" is worth a lot! And you say - a lyricist ...

Yes. I don’t respect Pushkin, at least kill yourself on the table. He is an intellectual.

Are you wondering at least one book to take it in your hands?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Proxima

Are you wondering at least one book to take it in your hands?

I even know about those poems of him that you have never heard of. This is not about the curvature, where the oak walks around the cat.

[tasha]

But why did you mess up in the comments to a good article? Once you have expressed your opinion and that's it, that's enough.

By the will of God, O muse, be obedient,
Resentment without fear, without demanding a crown,
Praise and slander were accepted indifferently
And do not dispute the fool.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tasha

But why did you mess up in the comments to a good article?

Yes, I'm drunk on the board. I want to chat. Don't care who.

[vladcub]

And do not care about what?

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

I don't respect Pushkin, at least kill yourself on the table

no one cares about your disrespect until you begin to slander the genius of Russian literature.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Flood

on the genius of Russian literature.

What, what? Is this Pushkin a genius of literature? Justify.

[Flooding]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Is this Pushkin a genius of literature? Justify

There are generally accepted things that do not need substantiation.
The genius of Pushkin is not questioned in the world of literary criticism.
The opinions of individual self-proclaimed forum authorities are not taken into account.
And I found confirmation of my words every time I read Pushkin to children.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Mordvin 3

What, what? Is this Pushkin a genius of literature? Justify

Vladimir, to each his own! To tell the truth, in the last year at the Lyceum, a competition for the best poet was held. So Alexander Sergeevich did not win, taking only second place on the podium! Do you know who was the first? I don’t remember either?
Throughout his life, Pushkin heartily envied the work of Griboyedov! Writers competed in literally everything. For example, the length of Nokia's little finger on the left hand !!!
The dispute ended in a duel. I don't remember with whom Griboyedov fired, but the last to shoot the little finger with the Nokia naturally and he later wore a cover. Frustrated, Pushkin cut his hair out of chagrin. In personal conversations, he sometimes joked, the bullet not only robbed him of an honest victory, but also deprived him of playing music !!!
And now about the role of the works of Alexander Sergeevich! His invaluable merit is the popularization of Russian folk and not only Russian fairy tales !!! By this alone, he immortalized his name. In addition, he acted as a historian. At least his History of Peter the Great deserves attention !!!
If we take Pushkin's influence on being, I will note one moment - the Bronze Horseman, sung by him not from copper, but from bronze. But try to convince any of the literature teachers of this. I personally tried it but failed!

[Aviator_]

I don’t respect Pushkin, at least kill yourself on the table. He is an intellectual.

He's just a poet. In principle, he is not capable of any work other than writing poetry. Remember how he mockingly replied to Inzov when he sent him to deal with state affairs - to consider the damage caused by the locust invasion of Bessarabia. The concept of hunger was, in principle, not familiar to him. Barin.

[Korsar4]

And every year you can reread Onegin. Discover new shades for yourself.

[3x3zsave]

Better first, Lotman.

[Korsar4]

Still not necessary.
Although, I have already said that being in the Pushkin Hills, first of all, I remembered Dovlatov.
But what can you do about it. The "reserve" settled well in my head.

[3x3zsave]

And I didn't associate Pushgory with Dovlatov at all.

[Korsar4]

The word "Weed" is a story with Mitrofanov, etc.
Closer in time.

But in general: beautiful, free and spacious.
At least near Izborsk, at least in the Pushkin Hills.

[3x3zsave]

In Staraya Ladoga it is the same.

[Korsar4]

I liked it there too. But when passing through, it's harder to focus.

[3x3zsave]

I agree. I have a similar situation with Priozersk.

[EvilLion]

He earned a lot from his work, because there were no Internet then.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: EvilLion

He earned a lot from his work, because there were no Internet then.

Like Nekrasov, for example.

[tasha]

What an interesting article it turned out. Alexander Sergeevich was a different person. I was carried away, played with fire, probably could not do otherwise. Talents, they are so ...

Many people revile me
And now, perhaps, they will ask:
Stupid so why kidding?
What is it to them? Want.

[Tarasios]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

As for the many private debts, which totaled 92 rubles, the emperor paid for that too.

The poet lived well. I remember how the Komsomolskaya Pravda summoned the spirit of Pushkin and asked him how much the pickled cucumbers cost. The poet was offended and disappeared.

We got off easy. After all, he could have challenged him to a duel;)

[Alien From]

The author is a romantic at heart))) Vyacheslav Olegovich, as always, thank you waiting to continue .......

[kalibr]

Continuation will, of course ...

[bistrov.]

So this is where the custom of making sawed-off rifles came from, even from those times, pistols were then half a meter long, and the barrel length was the same, at the cutoffs its length was just from 22 to 26 cm, and the last one, the so-called ... "tromblon", or in other words "blunderbuss", even resembles a modern sawed-off shape.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bistrov.

This is where the custom of cutting rifles came from.

The Sicilians began to do the trimming with might and main. Lupara. But I still did not find the answer to my question, was it possible to make a sawn-off shotgun by lowering the barrel into the water, and then shooting.

[kalibr]

Quote: Mordvin 3

lowering the barrel into the water, and then shooting.

Can. If you cut in the right place in a circle. Then you need to lower the barrel exactly on the sawdust into the daughter with water and shoot.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: kalibr

Can. If you cut in the right place in a circle. Then you need to lower the barrel exactly on the sawdust into the daughter with water and shoot.

Yeah. Many people say that it is possible, but I have never seen such an action.

[kalibr]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Yeah. Many people say that it is possible, but I have never seen such an action.

Described in the book "Street of the Youngest Son", and it was written by the mother of Volodya Dubinin

[Undecim]

Described in the book "Street of the Youngest Son", and it was written by the mother of Volodya Dubinin
A very authoritative publication in this matter.

[kalibr]

Quote: Undecim

Very authoritative

It is in this.

[Undecim]

Those in the photo below, you can see the same on this book consulted.

[Undecim]

https://42.tut.by/690540
Just such an experiment.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Undecim

[media = https: //tutby.gcdn.co/n/it/0d/b/i_tut_muzhiku_stvol_porvalo.mp4]

Not inserted.

[Undecim]

Here the results of the "excrement" are clearly visible.

[Undecim]

Close-up of the trunk, or rather what is left of it.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Undecim

Here the results of the "excrement" are clearly visible.

It was necessary to file it. Actually, the first time I was told about this by a neighbor, a member of the civil society, but I did not listen to him ... So, fragments of memories ...

[Undecim]

Here is another video of such a shot.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Undecim

Here is another video of such a shot.

They have nothing to do. My uncle had a 1942 rocket launcher. First, he shot the toilet out of it. The trunk fell off. The barrel was welded with brass, my dad then went into the forest to shoot trees, the handle fell off. Welded on. I did not begin experiments, well, it ...

[bistrov.]

Quote: Mordvin 3

The Sicilians began to do the trimming

I didn't mean who first started doing it. I was referring to the pistols of those times, which are similar to modern cut-off.
As for the method of making sawn-off shotguns, by shooting into the water, then nothing will come of it. It all depends on the thickness of the barrel walls. If they are thick enough, for example, like a rifle, and the cut is not deep enough, then the shot will take place normally, the bullet will fly out of the barrel and it will remain unharmed for a piece of the barrel to separate, the residual thickness should be small enough, find out which one, rather complicated calculations are needed , and, in my opinion, this method is just a bike, the break point still needs to be machined mechanically and make the appropriate chamfers, if the barrel is bullet, the muzzle of the barrel is always carefully polished, this is of great importance for the exact trajectory of the bullet, then what's the point " fence the garden ", you just need to cut off and grind the muzzle immediately.
Many make a sawn-off shotgun for point-blank shooting, then, of course, no accuracy is needed here, it will do well, up to two tens of meters, the trajectory of the bullet does not matter, but if you do everything as expected and make the appropriate sights, then from a rifle The shotgun can be fired up to 200 meters, and if the shooter is good, he will hit the target further, take, for example, Vintorez, there is a barrel of only 22 cm, and the cartridge is much weaker than a rifle cartridge, and the aiming range of it is up to 400 meters.

[Lester7777]

With all due respect to the great poet, it is sometimes difficult to get rid of the feeling that Alexander Sergeevich did not jump up to catch a bullet. And it is very curious what exactly he argued with Severin Potocki about. After all, Pushkin had both villages and serfs, whom he did not strive to free. Even his beloved nanny Arina Rodionovna (Let's drink, good friend of my poor youth), if I'm not mistaken, so the serf died.

[Boris55]

Quote: Lester7777

After all, Pushkin had both villages and serfs, whom he did not at all strive to free.

Rid?
It was not liberation. The landowners of the serfs simply expelled from the lands and hired only those they wanted to work, and what should the rest do? In general, minimizing the costs of landlords and nothing more.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

But again, Pushkin lived during the heyday of dueling culture in Russia, and his duel with Dantes was by no means the first in a row, but ... 25! And for almost all these duels he was not challenged, but he himself!

More precisely, 25 challenges to a duel, of which 17 times Pushkin himself initiated a duel, in other cases he was called!
Most of the duels did not take place, due to the reconciliation of the parties or the refusal of the other side to participate in them. One of the opponents told Pushkin's second that "he doesn't shoot at poets" !!!

[Richard]

Why was there no physician at the site of the duel between Pushkin and Dantes, although for duels this was the rule?
And one of the main complaints against Danzas at the trial after the duel

[Aviator_]

Why was there no doctor at the site of the duel between Pushkin and Dantes,

This, of course, is a flaw, apparently the duel was being prepared in a hurry. But we must admit that a penetrating wound into the abdominal cavity with crushing of the pelvic bones in those days was certainly fatal.

[Dkuznecov]

There was no fragmentation. The bullet went through the arch of the pelvis,
without damaging anything.
The injury was not fatal.

There was a contusion of internal organs
and huge blood loss, plus (sic!) leeches.

All materials are available on the Internet.
The poet could be saved relatively easily.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

The most interesting thing one of the adjutants of the duelists saw during the road to a duel was Natalia Goncharova's crew and could let her know, but remained faithful to male solidarity, or, as he later said a word given to Alexander Pushkin, and kept silent.

[doktorkurgan]

pierced his tibia and hit him in the stomach

Under these shooting conditions, this is anatomically impossible, the tibia forms the tibia. Maybe the same thigh bone? Or pelvic?

[Aviator_]

Of course pelvic

[Flooding]

Monument to the great poet in Bessarabian Chisinau
Installed in 1885.
It still stands.

[Bormanxnumx]

Dantes was wounded in the arm and shell-shocked in the chest, but Pushkin was not at all lucky: he pierced his tibia and hit him in the stomach, where he remained

The tibia is below the knee.
Pushkin had gunshot fractures of the iliac and sacral bones.

[Boris55]

Dantes was wearing a "bulletproof vest", hence the shell shock, and Pushkin, if they took out the bullet, he would have stayed to live, but such operations in Russia had not yet been carried out ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Boris55

Dantes was wearing a "bulletproof vest"

Back in the USSR, I read a book written, in my opinion, by an investigator, where the duel was analyzed. Pushkin hit the button.

[Boris55]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Pushkin hit the button.

Hit the button, but it couldn't have deflected the bullet. The reason for the murder of Pushkin was his "Gavliliad". In it, he dared to encroach on the Biblical concept:

... With the story of Moses
I do not agree with my story:
He wanted to captivate a Jew,
He lied importantly - and listened to him.
God awarded in him a syllable and a humble mind,
Moses became a famous gentleman,
But I, believe me, are not a court historian,
I don’t need an important rank of a prophet! ...

[bk0010]

Quote: Boris55

the reason for the murder of Pushkin was his "Gavliliad".

Yes? And I heard that Pushkin got mad, because Dantes hinted to him that Pushkin was "horned."

[astra wild2]

You are right Pushkin received an anonymous letter "the order of the destroyers" chose you as the historiographer of the order. " According to Zhukovsky, Nikolai 1, when he found out about this letter, ordered Benckendorff to "find the author!" Benckendorff asked Pushkin to wait, but he did not want

[AUL]

Quote: Boris55

Dantes was wearing a "bulletproof vest"

If that were the case, he simply would not have been allowed to duel! And then no one would shake hands with him. The dueling code was strictly observed. And if it was found out after the shots, then the seconds would have shot him, and both of them!

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote from AUL

The dueling code was strictly enforced

There was no dueling code in Russia yet; the existing oral set of rules stated that fighting over a woman was not "motivon".

[astra wild2]

"they were not yet conducted" on the channel: "Culture" said that such wounds at that time were fatal. Dr. Myasnikov, in the program: "The most important thing" said something like this: "With today's medicine, I'm not sure that I saved Pushkin. A very serious injury."

[Aviator_]

Dr. Myasnikov, in the program: "The most important thing" said something like this: "With today's medicine, I'm not sure that I saved Pushkin. A very serious injury."

The wound is undoubtedly grievous. Only here I would like to hear the opinion of an army surgeon who has gone through Afghanistan or Chechnya. Myasnikov, of course, is not a chatterbox Elena Malysheva, but still not an army surgeon.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

... Further, it is believed - and even Marina Tsvetaeva wrote about it in verse that Pushkin was buried almost secretly, and the coffin was accompanied only by an official of the postal department and A.I. Turgenev, a friend of the poet.

Tsvetaeva was very biased towards the poet's work. Apparently she realized that the gossip that was circulating in the marginal part of St. Petersburg did not hold out from here.

[Richard]

Good morning Vlad

Then, Pushkin himself was summoned to a duel by his other friend Wilhelm Kuchelbecker. The reason was Kuchelbecker's resentment, now at the passage of Pushkin, who wrote: "Kuchelbeckerno and sickening"

Here is this rhyme:
"

I ate too much at dinner
And Jacob locked the door in error -
So it was to me, my friends,
And küchelbecker and sickening. "

[A. Privalov]

Alexander Sergeevich vatanimizes guriridir.

[A. Privalov]

- Let me introduce myself, Nikolai Petrovich Zherebtsov, landowner of the Vologda, Gryazovets and Kadnikovsky districts. I came to pay respects to your husband, I am a great admirer of his talent, but from this very minute I am an even greater admirer of your beauty, incomparable Natalya Nikolaevna! Oh yes, here the embarrassment came out, so to speak, une petite confusion, your little arap, that at the entrance, he summoned me to a duel, walks around, a rogue, in a master's dressing gown, drinks, you see. You already order to pour him hot in the stable.
So where is your husband, precious Alexander Sergeevich?

[Van 16]

"At the end of the winter night
The snow is sparkling outside the window.
There are no words, no dots, -
Snow is like a clean sheet.

After burning out, the candle went out,
And the gray dawn sighed.
And through the snow to the Black River,
The toboggan trail stretched. "
(C)

[Catfish]

... his duel with Dantes was by no means the first in a row, but ... 25!

San Sergeich did not go into his pocket for a word, and his tongue was like a razor!

Here is what he wrote about the illustrations for Eugene Onegin in the "Nevsky Almanac".

"Here I crossed the Kokushkin bridge,
Leaning on granite,
Alexander Sergeich Pushkin himself
Standing with Monsieur Onegin.
Not deigning to look
A stronghold of fatal power,
He proudly turned his back to the fortress:
Don't spit in the well, my dear. "

He also walked around Tatiana:

"The navel turns black through the shirt,
Outside the tit is a cute look!
Tatyana crumples a piece of paper in her hand,
Zane's stomach hurts:
She then got up in the morning
With the pale months of the rays
And tore it for a wipe
Of course "Nevsky Almanac" ".

So should you be surprised at the number of duels?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sea Cat

"Nevsky Almanac" ".

Well, yoklmn ... Both the Sea Cat and the naked ... sorry, naked women ...

[Catfish]

Vova, tell me bluntly, what does female nudity do not suit you?
"I'm not hinting at anything, I'm just singing a song ..." (c)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sea Cat

Vova, tell me bluntly, what does female nudity do not suit you?

Not satisfied with the fact that they are not on my couch.

[Catfish]

Try to change the sofa, it will suddenly help.

[Mordvin 3]

How not to touch it with your hands? No, I didn't understand ...

[Catfish]

In the sense that we must be protected!

[Aviator_]

There is a suspicion that it is not the navel that turns black through the shirt, but the other part of the body, also in the same letter. Pushkin would not write "navel".

[Catfish]

Sergei, your assumption is clearly not devoid of sense.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Aviator_

There is a suspicion that it is not the navel that turns black through the shirt, but the other part of the body, also in the same letter. Pushkin would not write "navel".

Good morning Sergei, our "Everything" could not have drawn something like that!
In the XNUMXs, when the old censorship died, and the new one was still being born, I bought a volume with the poet's "obscene" verses! My ears turned red when I read!

[Aviator_]

The balovnik was Alexander Sergeevich, what was, that was. This is the custom among poets. It seems that Marshak wrote an epigram on Vera Inber: "Oh for Vera, ah for Inber, what kind of eyes, what kind of forehead - I would keep looking at her, everything would look at her."

[vladcub]

Kostya, hello, but I did not know such a poem about Tatiana

[Catfish]

This is not so much about Tatiana as about a drawing in a magazine.

[vladcub]

For love, I did not read it

[3x3zsave]

Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
I reproach you a little.
The place of the duel between Pushkin and Dantes is 15 minutes' drive from my house, and I recently visited Moika 12 (the poet's last residence). Original photographs could be taken.

[Van 16]

At one time, a guide in St. Petersburg (speaking of the Black River) repeatedly emphasized: "This is the place of a duel, not of the death of Pushkin."
Many, it turns out, confuse these concepts ..

[kalibr]

Dear Anton! Well, somehow I'm not used to burdening people with my own affairs. I will think about it in the future. There are many places in St. Petersburg worthy of your lens

[3x3zsave]

Vyacheslav Olegovich!
1. I myself suggested.
2. When and if for some reason it is inconvenient for me to do something, I openly declare it.

[Korsar4]

“He knew how to dirty paper
Under the crackle of a candle!
He had something to die for
At the Black River "(c).

[Undecim]

Somehow, behind the twists and turns of the duel, they did not receive an answer to the question what kind of "A.S. Pushkin's dueling pistols" were in this fatal duel.
Meanwhile, a whole detective story has formed around this issue, which is quite drawn to a separate article, and there are many applicants for the possession of such a valuable relic.
The French Morin Hotel Museum is so sure that the fatal pistol is in their possession that they show it on display.

The Poles claim that Pushkin's dueling pistols are in their possession, in the Muzeum Okręgowego w Lesznie.

[Undecim]

The Lviv Historical Museum does not exclude that this pair of pistols, with which Pushkin went to a duel with Dantes.

[astra wild2]

Viktor Nikolaevich, actually there should be a ts "legend" explanation. Something like this: Dantes sold pistols to Pan S, and his heirs, etc.
P
S.
"Lviv pistols" are handsome.

[Undecim]

Viktor Nikolaevich, actually there should be a ts "legend" explanation.
It is, according to all three options. But this is at least an article.

[astra wild2]

I would read

[astra wild2]

"Demonstrates him in the exposition" on TV they said: when Gorbachev was a priest of the USSR, he was on a visit to France. There he and Miterand, the President of France, were they in Dijon?), A local museum displayed dueling pistols allegedly by Dantes. Miteran presented these pistols to Gorbachev. Gorbachev took them to the Pushkin Museum. The pistols were kept in the storehouse of the museum. How old have they been? We have not decided to consider them yet. On the box, somewhere inside, there was a plaque with the date of issue ... 1840.

[Undecim]

Miteran presented these pistols to Gorbachev.
They did not give him a gift, the French were indignant and the gift did not take place.

[Senior seaman]

1828 year. At this point, Pushkin clearly "took a bite at the bit", because he challenged not just anyone, but the Minister of Education Alexander Golitsyn. The reason was Pushkin's daring epigram on the minister, who summoned him for this and reprimanded him.

And here is the epigram:
Here is the Tail Patron,
Here is a servile soul
Destroyer of enlightenment,
Patron of Bantysh!
Push, for God's sake,
At him from all sides!
Shouldn't I try from behind?
There he is the weakest.
Khvostova is obviously Alexandra Petrovna, nee Kheraskova. Quite a well-known writer at the time.

[Free wind]

If not for Dantes, how many poems would have to be taught at school.

[astra wild2]

Are you scared?

[Free wind]

Happy holiday to you !!! But how many more poetry would you have to learn? How tired of them at school.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Astra wild2

Are you scared?

Yes. Once I learned by heart about Lenin and the stove-maker. Everyone learned one third, and I, a bad person, learned it entirely.

[astra wild2]

I don’t remember this, perhaps it was not according to the program or did I forget?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Astra wild2

I don't remember that

In third grade, I think. Or in the second, I don't remember exactly. Oh, I just remembered, in the second grade it was, I was still an Octobrist.

[3x3zsave]

"Everyone in Gorki knew him,
The old people called for a meeting,
Children from afar in a crowd,
As they see, they surrounded "(C)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: 3x3zsave

Children from afar in a crowd,
As they see, they surrounded "(C)

Once a neighbor came to me,
That mug, stupid ...
Listen, grandfather, let's go to the ballet,
For fun ...

[astra wild2]

Colleagues, good afternoon. It's good when there is something to read, namely Vyacheslav Olegovich, he knows how to pick up material and illustrations. Tomorrow at work I will read with my friends

[astra wild2]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Sea Cat

Vova, tell me bluntly, what does female nudity do not suit you?

Not satisfied with the fact that they are not on my couch.

It must be earned. Beautiful women are made to be achieved

[3x3zsave]

Especially if you remember the opinion of Bernard Shaw.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Astra wild2

Beautiful women are made to be achieved

Yes ... I somehow achieved it ... Fingal got this ... the most ... Well, in short, I'm ashamed to tell.

[Aviator_]

The scars are beautifying.

[3x3zsave]

Guimplen would argue with you.

[astra wild2]

You +. So you slander yourself that you are completely drunk. : "What's on the mind of a sober - on the tongue of a drunk"

[Aviator_]

Beautiful women are made to be achieved

"Communication with beautiful women is a pleasure when it is achieved through overcoming obstacles," said Cristobal Hozevich Hunta, ("Monday starts on Saturday", A and B Strugatsky)

[astra wild2]

Vyacheslav Olegovich, who is the author of this version that Pushkin was secretly buried? I read about it in the textbook. And there it was stated that the gendarme on the grave wrote: "the grave is mined"

[kalibr]

Quote: Astra wild2

and who is the author of this version that Pushkin was secretly buried?

How do I know that. In Soviet times, there were many versions denouncing the autocratic times. And what kind of mines were there at that time: What kind of strange inventions?

[Aviator_]

What are these strange inventions?

Probably, they were invented in the ideological department of the Central Committee of the CPSU and sent out in manuals to the regional committees for further distribution among the masses of the working people.

[kalibr]

Yes, that's exactly what it was. Or, say, they were published in Gospolitizdat as "A Short Course in the History of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks)".

[Aviator_]

Well, how can I doubt the opinion of a teacher of Marxism-Leninism?

[kalibr]

Quote: Aviator_

Well, how can I doubt the opinion of the teacher of Marxism-Leninism

Inaccurate information must not be disseminated. There was no such subject as Marxism-Leninism. There could be a department of Marxism-Leninism. Where there were several teachers of different subjects. The subjects (disciplines) were as follows: the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, philosophy (istmat and diamat), and scientific communism. I did the first. And, by the way, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union really had its own history, like the fire brigade, the secret police and other socially significant organizations.

[Aviator_]

history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, philosophy (history and diamatics), and scientific communism. I did the first.

Well, who would have doubted. Marx's teaching is omnipotent because it is true!

[kalibr]

Quote: Aviator_

Marx's teaching is omnipotent because it is true!

A teaching based on incomplete knowledge cannot be omnipotent and true. That is, at some separate moments for its time - yes. Then - no. Becomes history. As the teaching of Anaximander, that the whole world came about ... but why should I know from what it came about today? So it is with the teachings of Marx. And he did not know much, both Lenin and the author of the "Short Course ..."

[Aviator_]

So it is with the teachings of Marx. And he did not know much, both Lenin and the author of the "Short Course ..."

But where does Marx and Lenin and Stalin go to a provincial propagandist ... That's who the giant of thought, the father of Russian democracy, and so on.

[astra wild2]

Did I come up with something?

[kalibr]

Quote: Astra wild2

"the grave is mined"

OZM-72 high-pressure fragmentation mine ...

[astra wild2]

Vyacheslav Olegovich, I saw a banner on the road, I know an anti-tank land mine, already "toothless", but I don't know such a mine

[Aviator_]

I don’t know such a mine

Jumping like a German "frog" from WWII (Sprengmine 35)

[vladcub]

Where the world is heading: women have already seen stretch marks, landmines are distinguished: "toothy" from "toothless", and most of us, all this crap only saw in the movies.
Most importantly, this kind of "fun" is gaining momentum around the world.

[astra wild2]

Quote: 3x3zsave

Especially if you remember the opinion of Bernard Shaw.

I do remember
If I were your wife. I'd poison you!
- And I would gladly drink poison. Than to live with you

[3x3zsave]

Not that, but also nothing.

[Captain45]

Quote: Astra wild2

Quote: 3x3zsave
Especially if you remember the opinion of Bernard Shaw.

I do remember
If I were your wife. I'd poison you!
- And I would gladly drink poison. Than to live with you

Something reminds me that it was Winston Churchill's answer at the debate in the House of Commons to the report of one deputy.

[evgen1221]

And what was the point of distorting reality, and historians agree to consider that Pushkin was buried alone?

[Mayan]

... and before the book of Galina Sedova, he had something to die for by the black river, during the chronological analysis of this duel for hours, minutes scientifically suggested that the duel took place in the Summer Garden , would come back late. + other long scientific inconsistencies) with high-ranking secret officials.

[3x3zsave]

duel took place in the Summer Garden
Damn, why not on Palace Square? There was no need to go there, Pushkin from the apartment on the Moika in 10 minutes would have reached.

[Gregory Charnota]

it is not indicated that Dantes, after a duel in France, reached unprecedented heights, became a great nobleman and a respected citizen

[Saxahorse]

Although it was not possible to find out from which particular pistol the poet was killed, the article itself was a success! Already the longest list of Pushkin's adventures involuntarily resembles an old tale:
"Who is destined to be hanged will not drown" (c)

Well, separately, for some reason, I remembered an old quote from Mark Twain:

“I don't approve of duels. If a person sends me a challenge, I will gently and respectfully take him by the hand and lead him to a quiet place where I can kill him without hindrance. "
(c) Mark Twain

And of course, many thanks to the Author for a good, atmospheric story about this old, sad story.

[astra wild2]

Quote from AUL

Quote: Boris55

Dantes was wearing a "bulletproof vest"

If that were the case, he simply would not have been allowed to duel! And then no one would shake hands with him. The dueling code was strictly observed. And if it was found out after the shots, then the seconds would have shot him, and both of them!

Let's ask Vyacheslav Olegovich.
Could it be that Dantes put on chain mail?

[stroybat ZABVO]

Greetings from Argentina.
"Could it be that Dantes was wearing chain mail?"
He put on, not chain mail, of course, but put on something.
He was given "it" by his adoptive father.
You, excuse me, do not have a footnote to "this".
I, as something in a dispute about "Dantes' button" told my opponent that the button would withstand a shot from the then pistol at such a distance ....... The button would have to be 50 centimeters in diameter and thick ... .well, very thick.

[kalibr]

Quote: stroybat ZABVO

He was given "it" by his adoptive father.

This is an old story not worth a penny. Contact with clothing indicates injury. And there is no blood ... If there is no penetration of "this". The duelist is immediately undressed and ... oh, it's better not to describe it further.

[stroybat ZABVO]

The blood, in this case, was the "sea". The bullet hit the arm. Dantes fell, it deceived the seconds.
Therefore, no one thought to "undress" him.
It is time.
The doctor who subsequently examined Dantes discovered an extensive hematoma.
This two.

[kalibr]

Quote: stroybat ZABVO

Therefore, no one thought to "undress" him.
It is time.
The doctor who subsequently examined Dantes discovered an extensive hematoma.
This two.

Do you understand what you have written means? That he knew for sure that it would be so. In advance! That is, he had a rare gift to foresee the future, which usually people do not have.

[stroybat ZABVO]

Hello to you.
"Do you understand what you have written means? That he knew for sure that it would be so. In advance! That is, he had a rare gift to foresee the future, which usually people do not have."
Eka you floridly described a coward who goes to a duel ... or was it a description of a cold-blooded killer who "just in case" "insured"?
By the way, Dantes shot before Pushkin, as I understand it, he hoped to kill right away ...
But the wounded Pushkin, from the same distance, landed a bullet at Dantes.
Let's see what Dantes was doing ...... stood sideways, hiding behind his hand. Those. hoped the bullet would hit my hand.
You ask someone to stand in front of you in this "pose". You will get into your hand and there will be a lot of blood, but ..... the one opposite you will be saved, and no one will undress him.
That's just a hematoma, how do you explain? A bullet, from the same distance, pierced the arm, and Dantes, with this hand, cut off his ribs?
I would abandon my theory and apologize to you if you find that the doctor's testimony that he examined Dantes and found a hematoma (like, I dimly remember that Dantes said that this hematoma was due to the fact that he, before duel, fell from a horse ......)
So, I will apologize to you if it turns out that the doctor's testimony about the hematoma is rumor, slander against Dantes.

[kalibr]

Quote: stroybat ZABVO

So, I will apologize to you if it turns out that the doctor's testimony about the hematoma is rumor, slander against Dantes.

I don’t need your apology. Because everything has been clarified for a long time. The seconds just measured the gunpowder to a minimum. We tried to keep "mortality" to a minimum. Not 5-8 grams, but only 2. And the bullet pierced the arm, but that's all ... But Pushkin was not lucky. She shattered a bone, and just rolled into the stomach. There were no ruptures of the intestines. Otherwise he would have been able to eat cloudberries from his wife's hands and say: "God, how good it is!" It would just hurt! At this distance, bullets with a normal charge would have pierced the duelists through and through, but this was not the case. So the charge of gunpowder was very small. That's all. And all these armored vests are fiction. Nobody would dare to risk their reputation like that!

[kalibr]

Quote: Astra wild2

Could it be that Dantes put on chain mail?

Not! Moreover, the chain mail would not have saved him. She did not save from bullets ...

[astra wild2]

Where does this version come from then?

[kalibr]

Where do we get all this nonsense from? From ignorance! We had a case in the museum in Penza. The employee put 17th century chain mail on his shirt and began to walk around the museum. The employee pulled the saber from its scabbard and hit him on the back. I barely broke my spine. "Fool-ah-ah-ah !!!! Mother, mother, mother ... So he was in chain mail ...

[astra wild2]

Vyacheslav Olegovich, hello. Friends thank you and colleagues for the interesting material comments. I especially liked: "the seconds would have shot him, and both"
Okay Danzas, he is Pushkin's comrade, but Dantes's second?

[kalibr]

Aster! Honour! Honour! That was the main thing at that time. EVERYONE would have turned away from him!

[Comrade Kim]

Great article!
But the author modestly diverts readers from the main reason for the duel:
"Pushkin wrote a very scathing letter to Dantes' adoptive father Louis Gekkern."
And before this letter, Pushkin gracefully teased the family of the sodomite Gekkern, who adopted (with his father alive) a boy for Dantes' love pleasures.
This was the main reason for that fatal duel.
"The homosexuals killed Pushkin" is the title of an article on a popular resource (orossii.org).

[astra wild2]

Quote: kalibr

Where do we get all this nonsense from? From ignorance! We had a case in the museum in Penza. The employee put 17th century chain mail on his shirt and began to walk around the museum. The employee pulled the saber from its scabbard and hit him on the back. I barely broke my spine. "Fool-ah-ah-ah !!!! Mother, mother, mother ... So he was in chain mail ...

Out of thin air?

[3x3zsave]

Each regional museum of local lore has its own "gunsmith Tarasyuk"

[kalibr]

Quote: 3x3zsave

Each regional museum of local lore has its own "gunsmith Tarasyuk"

And don't say Anton! I almost killed a man! Although there weren't even traces left on the chain mail!

[mihaylov]

Quote: kalibr

I almost killed a man! Although not even a trace remained on the chain mail

And if the control in the head?

Moreover, the chain mail would not have saved him. She did not save from bullets ...

Under certain circumstances, chain mail could delay a bullet

The employee pulled the saber from its scabbard and hit him on the back. I barely broke my spine. So he was in chain mail ...

My wife said that in childhood, using the same principle, she hit her father with a wooden mallet on the back, this is not a real hammer, but a wooden one. I was very surprised when my father began to moan and swear

[kalibr]

Quote: Mihaylov

Under certain circumstances, chain mail could delay a bullet

But it’s better not to count on it!

[mihaylov]

Quote: kalibr

But it’s better not to count on it!

Certainly! Therefore, ring-plate armor began to spread, with plates reinforcing the most vulnerable places (yushmans, bekhtertsy, etc.), a mirror (char-ainu) was hung from above. Of course, the cuirass is more reliable, but not available to everyone.

[Captain45]

Quote: 3x3zsave

Each regional museum of local lore has its own "gunsmith Tarasyuk"

By the way, Weller has an entertaining story, a young teacher of literature took students on an excursion to the Pushkin Museum and what came of it later.

[astra wild2]

Good day. Who is this "gunsmith Tarasyuk"?

[3x3zsave]

Good afternoon!
The hero of one of M. Weller's stories (collection "Legends of Nevsky Prospekt") and a real person, at one time, one of the world's largest experts in the history of cold steel, at one time worked in the Hermitage.

[AK1972]

But Pushkin was not at all lucky: she pierced his tibia and hit him in the stomach, where she remained.

Wow trajectory? Maybe it's still not the tibia, but the femur?

[kalibr]

Yes, of course the femur. Well, it's clear that ... a mistake.

[mihaylov]

I remember reading an analysis of Pushkin's wound and his treatment from the point of view of modern medicine: by our standards, it is sheer obscurantism, although it seems that there was at least some kind of surgery. With a serious, even by modern standards, wound - a gunshot in the abdomen, the therapy was quite strange: they did not stop bleeding immediately, they did not even think about removing the bullet, the wound was practically not treated in any way. They gave him cherry laurel water and put leeches on him - and this was with severe blood loss! Soon, Pushkin began to have blood poisoning, from which he died on the third day. About the times! About morals!

[kalibr]

Yes, people were just savages at that time. Ignorant, stupid, stupid ... Yes, and now, too, not ah, but then. Yesterday from the palm tree!

[faterdom]

Still, it is not for nothing that nature does not often indulge us with geniuses (to whom Pushkin undoubtedly belongs).
They are people, at best, strange, like Perelman, and more often multifaceted, obnoxious and cocky.
They are probably also having a hard time in the world of ordinary people (imagine yourself as a student in an EE class, but got there by accident).
But to imagine a world, or at least a settlement filled with Pushkins, Lermontovs, Teslas, Michelangels and Einsteins, is incredible, they will simply smash it into atoms, the energy is too much, the critical mass is called.
But the close connection of talented people, plus one or two geniuses, plus ingenious management works wonders (sharashka, the USSR atomic project, Queen's space).
There is such a professor-brain scientist Sergei Savelyev, who promotes such a method: the identification of geniuses in the early stages of brain development using tomography, and their further separate (!) Growing and development, only this can give this or that country powerful advantages in the future. Because, in fact, we do not know what percentage of geniuses find themselves and the favorable circumstances of their development and application. And how many go to the scrap of the common gray mass of handymen, to the circus, or, even worse, to the crime.

[kalibr]

I always tried to nominate and guide such students even without tomography ... and many became, someone ... nice.

[faterdom]

Vyacheslav Olegovich, that's what prof. Saveliev, that it is too late to look for geniuses among students, this is already a wonderful coincidence, if the chosen specialty and genius coincided.
Or again, a miracle, if someone great intervened, so Zhukov personally demobilized B. Shtokolov and sent him to study as a singer.
And here is a scientifically based selection.
Maybe it smells bad, but when the States, Japan, China or the same South Korea include such a method (fortunately, the modern level of technology allows for the first time in history), then what we will have to do is howl at the moon and declare the new science "a corrupt girl of imperialism "?
Then the question is generally on a different plane: is imperialism good or bad?
And the answer to it is banal: ours is good, a stranger is bad!

[kalibr]

Andrei! There was such a teacher B.P. Nikitin. He was doing this. Development of creativity in children. He also published a book in Japan. And here we have ... We met in 1988, we wanted to join forces ... but it didn't work out. By the way, he showed me the methodology he developed for assessing creative abilities. And the work of teachers in schools! If there is growth, we raise wages. No - they studied themselves, there is a decline - in pigs. But when he reported it upstairs, then ... can you imagine what he was told there. I passed this test and the level of creativity was 98% out of 100%. Which he and I were very happy about. And apparently then he was not mistaken ... But what this technique is and how to work with this test, I do not know. And who inherited too ...

[faterdom]

Well, I caught someone's minus, I hope not yours, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
But it brilliantly confirms this from this state of affairs: more or less effective methods for testing the abilities for brain productive activity have been created quite a long time ago (this is not the notorious IQ, a relative of the guessing Unified State Exam).
It would seem - in the interests of society - forward to meritocracy!
But those who are at the top of the power pyramid over and over again, century after century, lie against it!
The earliest known case was with Napoleon Bonaparte, to whom someone from the French Academy of Sciences of those times, a very advanced one, suggested this and received a decisive refusal (as, indeed, did the steam engine in the Navy). Although, Napoleon at that time was definitely not a retrograde or a conservative, and generally speaking, he gave many a way out of the mud - into marshals.
So, I'm not surprised that another technique for assessing creativity has gone to waste.
Those who have the privilege of evaluating someone's creativity (a form of power and influence) will never voluntarily surrender it to anyone.

[kalibr]

Quote: faterdom

I caught someone's minus,

With what joy should I put a minus to you? + is another matter.

[mister-red]

Quote: Mister X

"Pushkin laughed at Fyodor Orlov, and he threw him out of the window for this."
Pushkin was short, Orlov, on the contrary, was a huge strongman.
Returning to the living room, Pushkin grabbed a billiard ball and threw it at Orlov, hitting him in the shoulder.
Orlov wanted to hit the insolent man with a cue, but Pushkin put out two pistols and said:
- "I will kill!"

There is a continuation. I don't know if it's true or not, but it seems like Pushkin wrote in his diary that it was a good evening)

[Petrograd]

The bully, however, was Pushkin

[Ivan Hangoverov]

Dantes was not injured. In response to a challenge to a duel, the homosexual couple Dantes-Heeckeren hushed up the case. The Goma got ready. And a month later they themselves reanimated the old challenge to a duel - moreover, it was reanimated rather by the "male sponsor" Heeckeren than by the "keep" Dantes. A bullet hit Dantes, hit in the chest, but he was not magically wounded. And he didn't even go to the doctor. The most standard explanation is the cuirass (those were rumored to be sold at that time in Riga, where, coincidentally, Baron Heeckeren went on his business during this month), but this is just guesswork. For a month you can think of a lot of things, if you do not limit yourself with any "honor", and the nasty ones did not care too much about it. By the way, Dantes was not even a nobleman at that time. Of course, there may be a coincidence, and even a favorite book in the bosom. The reasons why the hit bullet did not inflict any injury to the "opposite" is not known in history. Once again, he did not go to the doctor, he had no scars, wounds, limited functionality of the limb after that.

One of the most interesting challenges is not described - Pushkin's challenge to the main duelist of Russia Tolstoy "American", which ended in their friendship. By the way, "American" could well have killed a gom for Pushkin if he had even found out about the duel - he had such cases when he found, summoned and killed one duelist just to save a friend.

[alexbyrcev]

The scheme of the duel is psynaya nonsense, from the opera "Eugene Onegin". In Russia, safety precautions were observed! Shoot at 20 steps, imagine the letter "H" - vertical sticks, 20 steps each, jumper 10 steps. The duelists stand at the end of the vertical sticks diagonally, on command they converge to the jumper (you can shoot from any place), seconds (for security reasons) were on opposite ends of the letter "N". Pushkin caught his bullet from 9 meters.

[south62]

To the author: so as not to ask such questions as “And, let’s say, what was the point of him distorting the truth then?” you could just read a couple of books on the topic. Well, or read your own more carefully and notice that farewell to the body in the Stable Church (St. Petersburg) and the funeral (Pskov province) are not the same thing. In fact, there were and still are many questions about the funeral for those in the know, of course.
The rest is about the same - I don’t envy Alexander Sergeevich, who (judging by this article) thinking that he was creating a monument to himself, seems to have thrown beads..
Some serf of that time, far from the concepts of society, of which AS was a part, could have talked about Pushkin’s duels in approximately the same way. And by the way, AS understood this well (unlike the author and many commentators): “How will you explain to a peaceful Aleut the duel of two French officers? Their delicacy will seem extremely strange to him, and he will almost be right.” It is possible to judge such things using today's concepts, but it is stupid.
It’s clear that when you’re young, everyone does a lot of stupid things; remember yourself at 17-20. The same American Tolstoy acted in such a way that everyone understood him, and I think the AC, too, over time. Having caught Tolstoy in juggling the cards (which everyone knew about, but - SUDDENLY) - this was permissible and often happened, remember Grinev’s loss at billiards) and expressing this publicly, Pushkin provoked Tolstoy to respond in his style: Tolstoy started a rumor that the poet was flogged in the Secret Chancellery. Note that the famous duelist did not challenge. Why? Because this is again a question from our time. The duel could have been among equals. And the 37-year-old (or so) “man” Tolstoy could not afford to shoot with a young man, this would not have found understanding. But Pushkin eagerly sought a duel, although everything ended peacefully and they became almost friends. And in other similar cases they divorced.
It also happened: Delvig once challenged Bulgarin to a duel. Bulgarin refused, saying: “Tell Baron Delvig that in my time I have seen more blood than he has ink.”
Many young nobles behaved the way Pushkin behaved. It is clear that a big role is played by character, which is not angelic. But to behave differently, having fallen into history, is to “expose yourself” to the light even more.
In general, every case is special.
Just like with Dantes.
Pushkin acted as he should have, he did not strive for a duel and did not provoke it. Rumors greatly contributed to it, because of which, to this day, all the circumstances of the duel are not known to anyone.
“It was as I remember. And it was as my mother remembers. But no one remembers how it really was” - no matter how sad.
All the stories about her are from someone’s words, which were often just gossip from ill-wishers. And as we know from Eugene Onegin, public opinion is the main “engine” of what led to duels.