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"A completely independent" defense industry "is being created: the Indian press believes that Turkey is" hunting "for military technologies

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Against the background of strengthening ties between Turkey and Pakistan, Ankara's opportunities for access to Chinese military technologies are significantly increasing.

Recently, a number of media outlets from Saudi Arabia, Israel and India have noted the rapid change in the strategic landscape in the region. According to the publications, not least the shifts in the balance of power were caused by the sharp rapprochement between Turkey and Pakistan.

Islamabad confidently supported Ankara in the disputes over the gas shelf in the Mediterranean Sea and during last year's events in Karabakh. Turkey, in turn, approves of Pakistan's claims over Kashmir. Both states intend to work closely on the Afghan problem. As observers are sure, the evolution of relations between the two countries is carried out strictly in the military-strategic sphere.

Defense cooperation is the most dynamic element of bilateral relations

- noted the Turkish leader Recep Erdogan.

Islamabad has already purchased 4 MILGEM project corvettes and 30 T-129 ATAK attack helicopters from its partner. The cost of the entire package of orders exceeds $ 3 billion. However, Ankara is going to "squeeze" as much as possible out of cooperation with Islamabad.

As noted in the Indian edition of The Economic Times, Turkey is seeking to establish a joint production of fighters. By gaining access to the "stuffing" of Pakistani JF-17 aircraft, Ankara will eventually use Chinese technologies, which are widely demanded in this aircraft, as well as in the Shahin ballistic missile.

Turkey Expands Hunt for Military Technology Leveraging Pakistan's Ties with China

- are worried in the Indian press, suggesting even in response to create an alliance with Greece.

Turkey is taking confident steps towards achieving its goal of creating a fully independent defense industry

- said in a statement SSB [a kind of Turkish analogue of "Rostec"].

For our part, we note that Ukraine (KAZ, aviation и tank engines), Israel (UAVs) and the United States (aircraft components). In case of expansion of the deal on the S-400 air defense system, Ankara expects the transfer of a number of competencies for the air defense system from Russia.
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  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 4 March 2021 05: 21
    +4
    What to write. request
    The Turks are great fellows, they use a "tank" and get their way "at any cost".
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 4 March 2021 05: 33
      +5
      Ankara is counting on the transfer of a number of competencies in the air defense system from Russia.
      So they collected all over the world! Wait for the S-500, maybe they will share it! am
    2. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 4 March 2021 05: 38
      +15
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      The Turks are great fellows, they use a "tank" and get their way "at any cost".

      Yes, that's how it should be, with the drones, everything turned out well for them.
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 4 March 2021 06: 06
        +2
        Quote: WHAT IS
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        The Turks are great fellows, they use a "tank" and get their way "at any cost".

        Yes, that's how it should be, with the drones, everything turned out well for them.

        It turned out before the sanctions, but now the ardor and victorious reports in the style of "bayraktar will come will bring order" unless some of them have remained in the VO, who do not know that there is only a glider and a nameplate in Turkish.
        1. Cingiz Safarli
          Cingiz Safarli April 29 2021 17: 44
          0
          Nothing of the kind, 93% of the UAVs are now Turkish. They are fast learners, they even replaced their Canadian optics. And the new UAV "Akinchi" weighs 5 tons, this is a completely different level
      2. Kaman
        Kaman 4 March 2021 06: 55
        -2
        2 amendments:
        1. From the moment Perdogan came to power (and this is 15 years ago, military cooperation between Turkey and Israel stopped.
        2. The potential for rapprochement between Turkey and Pakistan has limitations, because the Turks are Sunnis and the Pakis are Shiites.
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 4 March 2021 09: 10
          +4
          1. From the moment Perdogan came to power (and this is 15 years ago, military cooperation between Turkey and Israel stopped.

          Yes, it is true, but this cooperation was sacrificed in order to raise authority in the Arab world. This undertaking had the opposite effect; the rapprochement of Arabs and Jews took place. Yet, at the moment, not all is lost for the Turks, they can still replay this move.
          The potential for rapprochement between Turkey and Pakistan has limitations, because the Turks are Sunnis and the Pakis are Shiites.

          Pakistanis are Sunni and have traditionally close relations with the Turks. Another question is that Pakistani-Chinese relations can lead to Baluchistani separatism.
        2. Anar
          Anar 4 March 2021 10: 03
          -1
          Turks are not farces or Arabs, they do not divide the world between Sunnis and Shiites. The same Azerbaijan is Shiites, but the Turks call them 1 nation in 2 states. Also, the Kurds are mostly Sunnis and Yezites, but Turkey is at enmity with them. Syria is 74% Sunnis, but Turkey is not loyal to them. So one of the strengths of Turkey in the "Muslim world" is that they do not divide Islam into religious movements, and there are not so few Christian Turks ... and even in Turkey itself.
          And you personally should be ashamed to call the president of the nation with offensive words. You smell of lack of good manners and lack of respect for the representatives of other nations.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 4 March 2021 12: 54
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            Quote: Anar
            Turks are not farces and not Arabs, they do not divide the world between Sunnis and Shiites
            breathes not good manners and lack of respect for representatives of other nations
            Of course, the Turks do not divide the world into Shiites and Sunnis, they divide the world into Turks and the rest. Such is the "respect" for other nations.
            1. Anar
              Anar 4 March 2021 13: 02
              -1
              they divide the world into Turks and the rest

              As well as the Aryans and non-Aryans, Slavs and non-Slavs, Indians and non-Indians, Anglo-Saxons and non-Anglo-Saxons, farces and not farces, Arabs and not Arabs. Jews and non-Jews ........ At the same time, normal people from each race do not call representatives of other races distorted or not decent words.
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 4 March 2021 13: 07
                -1
                Quote: Anar
                At the same time, normal people from each race do not call representatives of other races distorted or not decent words.

                Tell this to the Kurds, or the same Armenians, they will probably be very interested.
                1. Anar
                  Anar 4 March 2021 13: 19
                  -1
                  Tell this to the Kurds, they will probably be very interested.

                  And who said that Turkey is against the Kurds? There are 20 million Kurds living in Turkey and everyone lives normally. And among them there are also millionaires, MPs and singers and doctors and scientists and so on ... Turkey is fighting the separatist parties that want to divide Turkey and create Kurdistan, which have terror as their weapon. And by the way, it is not only Turkey that is fighting them, but also Iran and Iraq and Syria. In Iran, they are generally executed in public. It's just that Turkey is more publicized and it is against her that these terrorist parties are used by the West.
                  So, personally, you would be pleased if any nation on the territory of your country would like to destroy the country into parts, and even with the help of terror? Honestly.
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 4 March 2021 22: 44
                    +1
                    Quote: Anar
                    And who said that Turkey is against the Kurds?

                    Are there any Kurdish schools? Or is it only in Turkish? I read you and understand, it’s probably good to live in your own little world. As in Ukraine, Russians also live (the majority), and among them there are also millionaires, doctors, scientists, and so on. But officially they are already second-class people. Don't worry, the Turks will take over the Azerbaijanis too, there will be one "great Turan".
          2. Pavlos Melas
            Pavlos Melas 4 March 2021 17: 55
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            Turks are not farces or Arabs, they do not divide the world between Sunnis and Shiites. The same Azerbaijan is Shiites, but the Turks call them 1 nation in 2 states.

            “Now we need to come to an agreement. And when are we going to hang them ?! And we’ll hang them later, and now we’ll negotiate.” As for confessional tolerance, tell this Turkish Alevi, they quickly emigrate from Turkey. Until now, they have not forgotten how the Sunnis burned their entire intelligentsia.
            and there are not so few Christian Turks ... and even in Turkey itself.

            As a faithful son of Ashena, you are deliberately confusing Turks and Turkish citizens.
      3. orionvitt
        orionvitt 4 March 2021 12: 50
        -1
        Quote: WHAT IS
        with drones, how well they did it

        Against who? If it is against the "portless guerrillas", then it is not surprising. Let them with their "unsurpassed bayraktar" turn out against the technologically equipped army, then I will watch with great pleasure how this farce will end.
    3. Ka-52
      Ka-52 4 March 2021 06: 08
      +6
      The Turks are great fellows, they use a "tank" and get their way "at any cost".

      The Turks took the path of militarizing their ambitions. And to support such a program, a rebuilt military-industrial complex is needed.
    4. A.K.
      A.K. 4 March 2021 06: 48
      +3
      Something tells me that the rod they are with the tacit consent of their patrons. (otherwise their ardor would be quickly cooled, but everyone only threatens with a finger) Not for a simple reason, all this is not easy.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 4 March 2021 07: 58
        +2
        Quote: A.K.
        Something tells me that the rod they are with the tacit consent of their patrons.

        Why silent? Britain is heard everywhere, from the UN to Twitter. Clearly, clearly, unambiguously.
        One can state the formation of the Britain-Turkey-Pakistan axis with satellites.
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 4 March 2021 12: 57
        0
        Quote: A.K.
        they stick with the tacit consent of their patrons.

        Why then. And the congenital Turkic ambition? In addition, the phantom pains of the Ottoman Empire, which has long passed away and will no longer be new. And oh, how they want. They will overstrain.
  2. Soveticos
    Soveticos 4 March 2021 05: 47
    +3
    Wondering what India has to offer Greece? Arjun or Tejas? Or send its barks ... ships for maneuvers.
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  3. Ka-52
    Ka-52 4 March 2021 06: 03
    +2
    Turkey seeks to establish a joint production of fighters. By gaining access to the "stuffing" of Pakistani JF-17 aircraft, Ankara will eventually use Chinese technologies, which are widely demanded in this aircraft,

    And what will the Turks put instead of the RD-93?
    1. Cingiz Safarli
      Cingiz Safarli April 29 2021 17: 54
      0
      Do not worry about them so much))) They are now strongly developing the military-industrial complex, soon everyone will be convinced of this.
      1.In Turkey, a medium-range rocket engine broke the world record.
      April 16 - Voice. Turkey's first TEI-TJ300 medium-range missiles were able to set a world record. The Turkish spindle motor reached a thrust of 1342 Newtons with a diameter of 240 mm. On this occasion, the Minister of Industry and Technology Mustafa Varank made some statements. In a statement on Twitter, Varank congratulated the team that created the engine, stating that the engine would be heavily used in land, sea and air defense systems.
      2.Turkey tests a hybrid rocket engine for a mission to the moon
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 April 30 2021 05: 40
        0
        yes, I wish you to fly on an airplane, which instead of a turbofan engine is powered by a rocket jet. It will be very interesting for me to see how you turn into a beautiful firecracker in the evening sky. laughing
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 March 2021 06: 03
    +2
    I don’t know if Turkey is seeking to get Chinese technologies (which ones specifically?) Through Pakistan, but I can say with confidence that Erdogan can get another enemy in the person of India. And this is a fact.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 4 March 2021 09: 30
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Erdogan may get another enemy in the person of India

      India is in trouble with its neighbors, do not spoil
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 4 March 2021 12: 59
        0
        Quote: Flood
        India is in trouble with its neighbors, do not spoil

        You might think that all the neighbors simply adore the Turks. Yeah, they love so much that they can't eat.
    2. Anar
      Anar 4 March 2021 10: 25
      -1
      India made the mistake of supporting Armenia's policy in the Karabakh conflict for 30 years. Indian campaigns were excavating natural resources in Nagorno-Karabakh, and Turkey did not like it all the time. That is, India took the first step towards deteriorating relations. I'm not saying that she became an enemy, but she was not a friend either. Turkey knows what everything can expect from India, which is why India's opinion is parallel to it.
  5. Quadro
    Quadro 4 March 2021 06: 03
    0
    It's funny what kind of Chinese technology they will take from Pakistan? China either sells them junk, or initially export cars (such as vt4 and vt5). Or is there such incredible technology in the jf-17 (in fact, an old Soviet aircraft somewhat re-assembled)? And yes, China will remember them for the Uighurs if something happens.
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 4 March 2021 06: 11
      +2
      Quote: Quadro
      jf-17 (essentially an old Soviet aircraft, somewhat re-assembled)

      And what was left of the Soviet plane? Part of the fuselage, yes, perhaps that's all.
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 4 March 2021 06: 16
        +1
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        Quote: Quadro
        jf-17 (essentially an old Soviet aircraft, somewhat re-assembled)

        And what was left of the Soviet plane? Part of the fuselage, yes, perhaps that's all.

        Why didn't they make it from scratch? And not part of the fuselage, only the air intake is removed from the bow. And our engine is standing and it is not known what is inside the new one.
        1. Jacket in stock
          Jacket in stock 4 March 2021 06: 32
          +1
          Quote: Quadro
          And not part of the fuselage, only the air intake is removed from the bow

          Funny.
          This is part of the fuselage. Well, maybe another keel.
          The rest is all new - wings, front fuselage, cockpit, avionics, engine ...
          And why not from scratch, apparently it's easier for them.
  6. iouris
    iouris 4 March 2021 06: 30
    +1
    It is obvious. RF helps the new Ottoman Empire. How will it end? And this hell knows ...
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 March 2021 07: 13
    +2
    Here, let them create your plane from scratch and not beg the Yankees for their F35 fool Expensive, difficult, but this is a groundwork for the future, this is independence in development from the same USA!
  8. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 4 March 2021 08: 43
    0
    If a country claims to be active in politics and in its environment, then there is no other way out. You need to make at least the main armament yourself. And what kind of systems you can buy. Now there is a choice in both the East and the West.
  9. Runoway
    Runoway 4 March 2021 09: 51
    0
    Attention!!! Secret technologies of the Indians

  10. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 4 March 2021 11: 57
    -1
    I think that the packs will not spoil relations with China, so there will be no technology transfer. Because for Pakistan, "friendship" with China is a matter of survival. Turkey, even if it really wants to, will not be able to help the Pak in their "snack" with India.
    1. Cingiz Safarli
      Cingiz Safarli April 29 2021 17: 59
      0
      Pakistan has most likely already donated several nuclear warheads to Ankara. For 12 years, Pakistani nuclear scientists have been working in Turkey, all their work is classified, where they work is also unknown to anyone. These are very close countries + Azerbaijan. Pakistan has not even recognized Armenia as a state just because of Azerbaijan.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 29 2021 19: 52
        0
        I think if the packs were given to the Turks by some kind of nuclear developments, they would have already been "torn" like a bobby kufayku))))
  11. orionvitt
    orionvitt 4 March 2021 12: 45
    -1
    "A completely independent" defense industry "is being created
    Something the Turks opened their mouths to a piece that they could not swallow. An independent defense industry requires colossal resources, finances, a specialized engineering school, and hundreds, if not thousands, of factors. Does Turkey have all this in full? The answer is unequivocal, no. And with the economy there is not everything, thank God, and political instability is observed, and a lot of other things. In general, dreaming is not harmful.
    1. Anar
      Anar 4 March 2021 16: 39
      -1
      And with the economy there is not everything, thank God, and political instability is observed, and a lot of other things. In general, dreaming is not harmful.


      And in my opinion it is you personally from the start dreaming) The Turks in the economy with money, everything is okay.
      Look at the official data of the Russian-Turkish auction It is in 11th place among all countries with whom Russia trades. By the way, 21 billion is not a small amount of money, and some% of it went into your pocket. So we must rejoice in good relations, as this brings% to the country's budget. And I will tell you personally, envy is not a good thing, and you can burst from it.

      But this is a mini-data positive for the Russian budget from relations with Turkey. Note The trade balance between Russia and Turkey in 2019 was positive USD 16 092 252 579.

      Russian trade with Turkey
      In 2019, trade between Russia and Turkey amounted to USD 26, an increase of 034% (USD 254) compared to 715.

      Russian exports to Turkey in 2019 amounted to USD 21, a decrease of 063% (USD 253) compared to 647.

      Russia's imports from Turkey in 2019 amounted to USD 4, an increase of 971% (USD 001) compared to 068.

      The trade balance between Russia and Turkey in 2019 was positive in the amount of USD 16. Compared to 092, the positive balance decreased by 252% (USD 579).

      Turkey's share in Russia's foreign trade turnover in 2019 amounted to 3,9058% against 3,7146% in 2018. In terms of its share in Russian trade in 2019, Turkey took 6th place (in 2018 - also 6th place).

      Turkey's share in Russian exports in 2019 amounted to 4,9821% against 4,7437% in 2018. In terms of its share in Russian exports in 2019, Turkey took 4th place (in 2018 - 5th place).

      Turkey's share in Russia's imports in 2019 amounted to 2,0391% against 1,7703% in 2018. Turkey ranked 2019th in terms of its share in Russian imports in 11 (2018th in 12).
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 4 March 2021 22: 39
        -1
        Quote: Anar
        And in my opinion it is you personally from the start dreaming

        Who are the Turks to envy? laughing Nothing, let them push, let's see what happens. As the saying goes, "it was good on paper, but they forgot about the ravines."
        1. Anar
          Anar 5 March 2021 08: 12
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          Personally, I am FOR FRIENDSHIP between Russia and Turkey. These are 2 powers with a rich history that have nothing to fear. And the whole world knows this and is doing everything to knock their heads.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 5 March 2021 14: 12
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            Who is against friendship? But friendship should be mutual. And when it is based solely on financial gain (from the Turkish side), and when a "friend", just in case, holds a knife in his pocket (or I don’t know this people), officially declares that all the territories where the Turkic peoples live is Turkey, then sorry, there will never be friendship, only temporary cooperation. This was not my idea, my opinion is based solely on historical facts and my own life experience.
            1. Anar
              Anar 5 March 2021 15: 19
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              Is that why you look at everything with a selfish glance? Firstly, in contact with Turkey, on the contrary, Turkey gives 4-5 times more profit to Russia than Russia to Turkey. Look at the official data - Turkey buys about 20 billion, importing only 5 billion.
              Secondly, who in general asked these peoples who do they want to see? I will say this, I live in Azerbaijan, I want to be friends with both Russians and Turks. But I just want to be FRIENDS. The problem with Russia is that she says I am the master, and Turkey says I am your brother. What do you think and to whom will the people be drawn? So it is with everyone.
              The second conversation about the knife, to remind you how during the Second World War the USSR swore to Japan that it would not attack it? What happened at the end? Although if Japan in 41-42 attacked the USSR, then it wouldn’t have been you or us. So no need to say who is here with a knife in his pocket. Everyone has a knife and certainly Russia is not a small one. So much for the historical facts.
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 5 March 2021 20: 53
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                I understood right away that you live in Azerbaijan. And your pain, I also understand. I will not write further, I hope that in addition to desires, you have a real understanding of life.
                1. Cingiz Safarli
                  Cingiz Safarli April 29 2021 18: 05
                  -1
                  And what kind of pain does Azerbaijan have? We only recently liberated our lands from a 30-year occupation by the outpost of the Russian Federation, we have joy and not pain))
                  1. TermNachTer
                    TermNachTer April 29 2021 19: 57
                    +1
                    Have you freed?))) NKAO, with the exception of some territories, remained with the Armenians. Or am I missing something?)))
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 29 2021 19: 55
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        That's right, look at the real state of the Turkish economy. The government is raking money out of private banks to balance debit with credit. Moreover, no prerequisites for an improvement in the situation are foreseen. And if Russia fails the holiday season, then in autumn the Turks will be completely sad.
    2. Cingiz Safarli
      Cingiz Safarli April 29 2021 18: 02
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      Do you know that Qatar will provide Turkey with as much money as you want?)))) Everything will be, do not worry. The economy of Russia is even deeper out, but nothing after all)) Moreover, science in Russia is going through its last years, in agony, and in Turkey, on the contrary, is developing. 70 thousand scientists left Russia in a year, so think at your leisure)
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 29 2021 19: 56
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        Do you think the Qataris are fools?))) No one will give money to a dubious debtor. Turkey already owes so much to Qatar that it's even scary to imagine)))