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DPR servicemen allowed to suppress the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to violate the agreements on the ceasefire regime in the Donbass. In this regard, the DPR servicemen were allowed to suppress the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


This was reported by the press service of the People's Militia of the DPR on March 3.

Subdivisions of the People's Militia were given permission to conduct preemptive fire to suppress and destroy enemy firing points.

- the press service of the NM DNR informs.

The armed forces of the Republic note that the Ukrainian military is violating the ceasefire at the moment when the meetings of the Contact Group on Donbass are being held.

The People's Militia of the DPR explains their decision by the fact that the actions of the Armed Forces do not allow the implementation of the Minsk armistice agreements, and the frequent shelling from the Ukrainian side is regularly ignored by international observers.

Therefore, the DPR servicemen, in order to protect the civilian population of the republic from Ukrainian shelling, will be forced to suppress and destroy the firing points of the Ukrainian army.

Since the beginning of the year, the OSCE mission has noted approximately 2,5 violations of the ceasefire. In February, for the first time since June last year, the Ukrainian army used artillery of 122 mm caliber prohibited by the Minsk agreements during shelling. Earlier, the OSCE reported that up to a hundred tanks APUs are absent in places designated for storage.
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  1. Temples
    Temples 3 March 2021 13: 33
    +40
    The enemy must be beaten on his territory.
    In this case, the enemy must be driven from the territory in which he settled.
    Death to the fascist invaders.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 March 2021 13: 48
      +50
      Units of the People's Militia permission to maintain proactive fire to suppress and destroy enemy firing points.


      The key point here is - pre-emptive fire , this is the moment that we missed so much, and in the presence of which dozens of lives of militias and civilians were saved ...
      1. Temples
        Temples 3 March 2021 13: 49
        +27
        Quote: Insurgent
        in the presence of which dozens of lives of militias and civilians were saved ...

        This is more important than the integrity of the non-state of Ukraine.
        More important than non-recognition or recognition by the West.

        People's life. Our people.

        I got this game into Western civilization.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 3 March 2021 14: 17
          +9
          Oh, how much stench the Great Breeds will start! lol
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 3 March 2021 15: 27
            +6
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            Oh, how much stench the Great Breeds will start! lol

            This is yes. They were already scurrying around the clock from all available sites, and then they generally start to stink. Now, traditionally, they will begin to demand the introduction of new sanctions against Russia.
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 3 March 2021 17: 15
            +7
            Oh, how much stench the Great Breeds will start!

            Yes, the stench will be decent from the whole West. Let's be patient.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 3 March 2021 14: 18
        +15
        Quote: Insurgent
        The key point here is pre-emptive fire

        It is high time! Stop clattering and looking back at "partners"
      3. Cananecat
        Cananecat 3 March 2021 15: 09
        +3
        I understand that you have received data on the imminent start of the next boiler? For preemption can be used not only for artillery but also for other formations.
      4. Vend
        Vend 3 March 2021 18: 04
        +3
        Quote: Insurgent
        Units of the People's Militia permission to maintain proactive fire to suppress and destroy enemy firing points.


        The key point here is - pre-emptive fire , this is the moment that we missed so much, and in the presence of which dozens of lives of militias and civilians were saved ...

        Well, maybe they will stop firing or less often they will shoot, they will be afraid of otvetki.
      5. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 3 March 2021 18: 42
        +5
        Here's where the BMPT would come in handy: dig a little, so that only the armament above the ground was and through good optics (and the BMPT is good) to look out for who greets there in the adjacent territory - and from two barrels, for suppression (up to 4 km) ... And not bad as an anti-sniper. Well, if a 30mm projectile is not enough for the enemy, then an ATGM can be lowered.
      6. volodimer
        volodimer 4 March 2021 12: 38
        +1
        I agree. Really correct and long overdue decision. They should be afraid to open fire. This is the only way to ensure a real "ceasefire". Sanctions? But if this is the price for the lives saved, then this is more than acceptable.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 3 March 2021 13: 59
      +18
      Let's clarify ...
      Death to the Bandera of Ukraine, death to the Nazis of Ukraine.
    3. Civil
      Civil 3 March 2021 14: 33
      +6


      The war goes on until the good destroy the bad.
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 3 March 2021 14: 38
      +5
      It is high time! I hope that the suppression of the Vukriev assassins in their positions will be carried out with the help of heavy weapons! !!
    5. ksv36
      ksv36 3 March 2021 16: 05
      +3
      Before Germany, or what? The outskirts are our territory. And many Russians live on it.
  2. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 3 March 2021 13: 39
    +8
    Let's just say, not everything is so simple, but somehow they untied their hands ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 March 2021 13: 50
      +11
      Quote: Ruslan Sulima
      Let's just say, not everything is so simple, but somehow they untied their hands ...


      Of course, without "moments", with the general following the course of "Minsk" will not do, but this is at least something against the backdrop of hopelessness.
      1. Temples
        Temples 3 March 2021 13: 58
        +14
        If in Russia we look at the situation with the word of hopelessness, I cannot imagine what is in the minds of people in Donbass.

        Sometime you need to be determined. I mean politicians.

        How do people in Donbass differ from people in Crimea?

        And here and there it was decided in 14 that they (the inhabitants) were Russian.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 3 March 2021 14: 07
          +20
          Quote: Temples
          If in Russia we look at the situation with the word hopelessness, I can't imagine what is in the minds of people in Donbass.

          As a matter of fact, our people can be divided into several categories, for simplicity into two - those who are aware of the situation in the militia (NM) and those who are not familiar with it.

          In general, I will not beat around the bush, but I will say frankly that the course of Moscow and, consequently, the leadership of the DPR on "not resisting evil by violence" directly undermines (undermines?) The spirit and combat readiness of the guys.
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 3 March 2021 15: 54
            -4
            ryamo undermines (undermined?) the spirit and combat readiness of the guys ..... even if it seems to me that the Chepushilin in the DPR does not rule anything, but there is a great SOMEONE. I somehow assumed about four years ago that the bright leaders of the DPR were buried in closed coffins for a reason ... the time of heroization has passed ... it's time to play blindly
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 3 March 2021 16: 03
              +1
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              even it seems to me that chepushilin in the DPR does not rule anything, but there is a great SOMEONE. I somehow assumed about four years ago that the bright leaders of the DPR were buried in closed coffins for a reason ... the time of heroization has passed ... it's time to play blindly


              Throw the game of conspiracy theories of the "universal conspiracy", return to reality ...
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 3 March 2021 16: 08
                0
                Throw a game of conspiracy theories "......... and what kind of conspiracy theories ... called up with a chum in Donetsk..says that Chepushilin was nonsense. But who gave such an order is unknown. In any case, Kent already has a passport of the Russian Federation
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 3 March 2021 16: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                  called up with a chum in Donetsk .. says that chepushilin is nonsense. but who gave such an order is unknown. in any case, Kent already has a Russian passport

                  "Kent"? Here, and even more so in Russia, all sorts of different "kents" are like dirt. And some of them explain about Putin in such a way that "rubbish" sounds like a compliment.

                  So now, rely only on their estimates?
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974
                    Crimean partisan 1974 3 March 2021 16: 15
                    -2
                    Here, and even more so in Russia, all sorts of different "kents" are like mud .... well, mud is not mud, but a colleague in the service
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 3 March 2021 16: 18
                      0
                      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                      well, dirt is not dirt, but a colleague at work

                      Yes, let at least a relative yes This does not give a reason to assess the situation as a whole, in his sole opinion ...
                      1. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 3 March 2021 16: 23
                        -2
                        in his sole opinion ... that is, the opinion of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the DPR is something personal ... I doubt it
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 3 March 2021 16: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        in his sole opinion ... that is, the opinion of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the DPR is something personal ... I doubt it


                        Eh-x-x ... I knew such "employees" from the "Legion", who later warmed up in the Emergencies Ministry, that there is nowhere to put brands on them ...
                      3. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 3 March 2021 17: 04
                        -3
                        Knew these "employees" from the "Legion" ...... wow. who are they ... kent chest of drawers in part, last year I did not manage to come ... it was hot ... I hope it will arrive this year
                      4. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 3 March 2021 17: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        Wow. who are they ... kent chest of drawers in part, last year I did not manage to come ... it was hot ... I hope it will arrive this year

                        Who? Drones are opportunists.

                        As for the Emergencies Ministry, it has become a "feeding trough", where you just can't get a job "from the street" without a "shaggy paw".
                        But in one of the divisions of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, several pretzels "work" at once, joining there with the "left" WB DPR, not a day being either in the militia or in the Corps.
                        Moreover, it is interesting that with the WB about the passage of service in the same regiment with me fellow

                        Verified by colleagues yes
                      5. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 3 March 2021 18: 17
                        -3
                        where just like that, "from the street", without a "shaggy paw" you can't get a job ...
                      6. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 4 March 2021 08: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        -And there are many who wish for the post of the GDZS chest of drawers ... I doubt it ... especially in the zone of active hostilities

                        Fasting implies salary , which is not very different from the contentment of a soldier who is on the front line, not by "arrivals" but constantly.

                        And where did you see "active database zone"? It actually does not exist, there are hotbeds of exacerbation that occur from time to time, and not in all cases, the Emergencies Ministry is involved.
                        More precisely, they use it extremely rarely ...
                      7. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 4 March 2021 08: 16
                        -2
                        Fasting implies a salary, which is not very different from the contentment of a soldier who is on the front line, not by "arrivals" but constantly ........ yes it does not matter, the main thing is that he did not leave his hometown. although there were opportunities ... I offered him ... but native is native ...
          2. Aag
            Aag 3 March 2021 20: 22
            +3
            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            well, dirt is not dirt, but a colleague at work

            Yes, let at least a relative yes This does not give a reason to assess the situation as a whole, in his sole opinion ...

            Guy, good luck to you and your comrades-in-arms! I suspect that "it's true, somewhere nearby .." I named my daughter Victoria. Not in honor of the victory over Ukraine, but in honor of the victory over fascism in Ukraine ... In your honor .. ...
            Yes, on the couch! ... Well, I inquired at the military registration and enlistment office, privately, - I am not satisfied with the VUS (I mean 14-16 years). ... Some of my acquaintances (the word, excuse me, turned up not by chance), - rushed into "battle ".
            For various motivations ... For an idea, - in its pure form, - extremely rare. (For family, financial reasons.)
            I understand that the front line cleans the brain of everything superficial ... (((.
            But you, too, probably admit that until a specific assessment of what is happening in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions is given by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation ... more precisely, more specifically, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. (Of course, after the decision of the Commander-in-Chief ...) ...
            Why a spitch, dear Insurgent? Yes, to the fact that many, including myself, cannot understand - where we are going, why, in what way (by the way, regarding "how unpleasant questions are asked, ), - we nurture ...
            Therefore ... The current Russian Federation (its leadership) is considering Donetsk, Lugansk what is the subject of bargaining. (Sorry, the subject of bargaining for WHAT? At what rate? ... , - own land, a buffer zone for the Russian Federation ...)
            Today I tried to watch the news on the shelling of Donetsk ... Silence. There is already noise on the radio.
            It sounds somehow vulgar, but, nevertheless, - hold on guys !!! It remains to be hoped that in case of a serious mess, the RF Ministry of Defense will be connected! Probably, they did not just handed out passports? Otherwise, they simply won’t understand "their own" ...
            Sorry for the multi-letter ...
  • Hermit21
    Hermit21 3 March 2021 22: 11
    -2
    In Crimea, they decided that they wanted to be in Russia. The result is Crimea in Russia. The LDNR decided that they wanted to be independent. Result -
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 3 March 2021 14: 16
    +8
    Yes of course. We were not whipping dolls before, but it’s worth showing our teeth to an uncooperative enemy.
    In my opinion, it is necessary to convey this decision as much as possible to every remote village in Ukraine in response to the proposed adoption of the next law on mobilization.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 3 March 2021 13: 42
    +10
    DPR servicemen allowed to suppress the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    The command "bastards urine" came ???
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 March 2021 13: 46
    +10
    permission was given to conduct preemptive fire to suppress and destroy enemy firing points.
    That's fine. It is clear that there were responses before that, but now there is official permission, which opens up more opportunities. Let the villains on the other side feel well that they did not go out on a safari after the civilian population.
  • alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 3 March 2021 13: 48
    +5
    The statement is loud, but will there be real answers? and then I remember Chepushilin threatened to demolish the fortifications in the gray zone and silence ... it's high time to really answer, and not appeal to the world community, as the formidable Masha Zakharova does.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 March 2021 13: 52
    +7
    Your assumptions, who could have given the order that you can kill ukroverrmacht ahead of the curve? Even it seems to me that this is logical if ours declare that the French and the Germans are only inciting ukroverrmacht, and we are extreme!
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 3 March 2021 14: 08
    +2
    In February, for the first time since June last year, the Ukrainian army used artillery of 122 mm caliber prohibited by the Minsk agreements during shelling. Earlier, the OSCE reported that up to a hundred tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were absent at the places designated for storage.

    As in Zele, "Donbass come back home, we are waiting for you", the guns are ready, the tanks are ready, the machine guns are loaded. Do they really not understand that after the genocide of Donbass, the people will go into the arms of the punishers.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 March 2021 14: 14
      -21%
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Do they really not understand that after the genocide of Donbass, the people will go into the arms of the punishers.

      Most residents of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics continue to consider the territory not controlled by Kiev to be part of Ukraine, according to a survey commissioned by the Berlin Center for Eastern European and International Studies (ZOiS).

      54,5% of respondents living in the self-proclaimed republics see these territories as part of Ukraine. 31% of the total number of respondents would like the territories to receive an autonomous status within Ukraine, and 23,5% support the return of Donetsk and Luhansk regions to Ukraine without special status, the study says. 18,3% of the polled respondents want the DPR and LPR to become part of Russia without granting autonomy, and the remaining 27,2% - with the receipt of autonomous status.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 3 March 2021 14: 22
        +19
        Quote: RUSS
        Most residents of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics continue to consider the territory not controlled by Kiev to be part of Ukraine, according to a survey commissioned by the Berlin Center for Eastern European and International Studies (ZOiS).


        WHO asked - it's clear (some incomprehensible Germans), but WHO was being interviewed, and most importantly HOW could they do this, especially with the "majority"?

        Let's just say - among thousands more or less familiar people, there are no such people who would be asked something.
        I was definitely not interviewed ...

        LIES
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 3 March 2021 14: 33
          -17%
          Quote: Insurgent
          WHO asked - it's clear (some incomprehensible Germans), but WHO was being interviewed, and most importantly HOW could they do this, especially with the "majority"?

          Let's just say - among the thousands of more or less familiar people, there are none who would be asked something.
          I was definitely not interviewed ...

          LIES

          Pro-Russian sociologists say about 50% of the inhabitants of the LPR are willing to join Russia.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 3 March 2021 14: 44
            +9
            Quote: RUSS
            Pro-Russian sociologists say about 50% of the inhabitants of the LPR are willing to join Russia.

            What are these "pro-Russian"? Name them, the dates of the mass polls they conducted and the methods of data compilation ... And explain why we are here in the DPR, we do not know about such public opinion polls.

            And so, these figures are unfounded "from Uncle RUSS", and no more yes
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 3 March 2021 14: 57
              -11%
              Quote: Insurgent
              What are these "pro-Russian"? Name them, the dates of the mass polls they conducted and the methods of data compilation ... And explain why we are here in the DPR, we do not know about such public opinion polls.

              And so, these figures are unfounded "from Uncle RUSS", and no more

              One of the resources says 64%.
              More than half of the residents of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR) want these territories to become part of Russia. This is evidenced by the survey data of the Ukrainian Institute of the Future. Its results were published in the online edition "Mirror of the Week".

              According to the information posted, the self-proclaimed republics are seen by 64,3% of their residents as part of Russia.



              According to other polls, it is less, on average about 55%.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 3 March 2021 15: 02
                +7
                Quote: RUSS
                One of the resources says 64%.

                "Resource", is this grandmother at your door?

                Quote: RUSS
                ... This is evidenced by the survey data of the Ukrainian Institute of the Future.

                Oh this is it fellow ! Pan RUSS, mabut liberal?

                "Ukrainian Institute", but not anyhow - but "future" wassat
                1. RUSS
                  RUSS 3 March 2021 15: 47
                  -10%
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  Resource "is this grandmother at your door?

                  This is a cross-section of polls by foreign, Ukrainian and Russian sociologists.
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  Pan RUSS, mabut liberal?

                  Well, yes)))) used to be Troskists, and now liberals))). And who are the liberals in your opinion?
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 3 March 2021 15: 51
                    +4
                    Quote: RUSS
                    who are the liberals in your opinion?

                    To my mind ?
                    In my opinion, in general, there is nothing wrong with the concept of "liberalism" if it is not distorted in the same way as in Russia.
                    After all, the liberals acting "in the West" and yours are different substances.
                    Those work for the interests of their countries, and yours against theirs ...
                    1. RUSS
                      RUSS 4 March 2021 09: 18
                      -2
                      Quote: Insurgent
                      After all, the liberals acting "in the West" and yours are different substances.
                      Those work for the interests of their countries, and yours against theirs ...

                      Are the current authorities working for the interests of Russia?
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 4 March 2021 10: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Are the current authorities working for the interests of Russia?

                        In a ratio of approximately 60:40 - otherwise, if Western liberals completely seized power in the country, then LGBT parades would be held on Red Square instead of the Victory Parade.
                  2. sniperino
                    sniperino 3 March 2021 22: 39
                    +1
                    Quote: RUSS
                    there used to be Troskists, but now liberals
                    And there is. Previously, they were called Trotskyists, they were engaged in permanent revolution, and today they call themselves liberals, but they are doing the same: they destroy the sovereignty of states in favor of the US pseudo-state, which is in the hands of transnational corporations; they destroy the family in the same way as the society "Down with shame!" after our revolution, only on a more advanced gender program.
                    1. RUSS
                      RUSS 4 March 2021 09: 19
                      -5
                      Quote: sniperino
                      but they do the same: destroy the sovereignty of states in favor of the pseudo-state of the United States, which is in the hands of

                      Who are these people? laughing
                      1. sniperino
                        sniperino 4 March 2021 10: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Who are these people? laughing
                        laughing Good joke. These are questions for the investigation. I can only guess what they are.
                      2. RUSS
                        RUSS 4 March 2021 10: 53
                        -3
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Who are these people? laughing
                        laughing Good joke. These are questions for the investigation. I can only guess what they are.

                        Surnames in the studio!
                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 4 March 2021 12: 32
                        0
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Surnames in the studio!
                        Bury 5 soldo in your field of miracles, and the names will definitely appear on the leaves of the SK miracle tree at the time appointed by the court.
                      4. RUSS
                        RUSS 4 March 2021 15: 35
                        -2
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: RUSS
                        Surnames in the studio!
                        Bury 5 soldo in your field of miracles, and the names will definitely appear on the leaves of the SK miracle tree at the time appointed by the court.

                        That is what we are talking about, they name the great liberals who influence the policy of Russia and ruin it, but there are no names, because there are no such names in Russia.
                      5. sniperino
                        sniperino 4 March 2021 15: 53
                        0
                        Quote: RUSS
                        no surnames
                        N-th sat down, the sponsor of the FBK is on the wanted list ... Buratin's people need to learn to wait: they will tighten both the liberal roof and the doll-bot-writers. Where to write off such heat. Everything has its time. The miracle tree does not grow overnight. You never learned this lesson.
                      6. RUSS
                        RUSS 4 March 2021 20: 01
                        -1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Everything has its time.

                        Well, let's take a look ...
                        We still have time too
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 3 March 2021 14: 41
    +7
    Damn, and my vote was not taken into account, and no one asked, I will file a violation of rights in the ECHR
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 3 March 2021 14: 49
    +4
    Quote: Insurgent
    WHO asked - it's clear (some incomprehensible Germans), but WHO was being interviewed, and most importantly HOW could they do this, especially with the "majority"?

    And probably the poll was conducted in Galicia and Volyn.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 4 March 2021 10: 59
      +2
      Quote: tihonmarine
      And probably the poll was conducted in Galicia and Volyn.
      Or the interviewers worked in groups recruited from the national corps, wearing camouflage uniforms with tridents on their foreheads and greasy forelocks.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 March 2021 14: 25
    +13
    Enough to hang noodles on your ears, found authority, the center is in Berlin, they lie there without measure, and you, like stupid chicks, eat all the dregs. fool
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 March 2021 14: 35
      +7
      Quote: Ros 56
      Enough to hang noodles on your ears, found authority, the center is in Berlin, they lie there without measure, and you, like stupid chicks, eat all the dregs.

      No No. , nein No. not at all stupid ...
      They do not hawala, but carry mud, deliberately spreading deliberate misinformation.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 3 March 2021 14: 45
        +4
        Let it be your way, I do not mind, then let the avatar change to Oval, even though we will know whose it is. laughing
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 3 March 2021 14: 46
          +5
          Quote: Ros 56
          Let it be your way, I do not mind, then let the avatar be replaced by Oval, even though we will know whose it is.

          And how, then, to snatch bullshit? belay belay belay
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 3 March 2021 14: 49
            +3
            And for whom it is easy now, there Zhenechka Psakova is spinning, and still carries that crap. fellow laughing
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 4 March 2021 16: 18
              0
              Quote: Ros 56
              over there, Zhenechka Psakova is spinning, and she carries that crap
              She is smart, pro! She is not afraid to look stupid, does not get angry, but smiles sweetly, promises to find out everything in the office. Full correspondence, so to speak, of form and content.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 4 March 2021 16: 21
                +1
                Quite right, but they have no idea what shame and shyness are.
  • Guru
    Guru 3 March 2021 14: 25
    +7
    commissioned by the Berlin Center for Eastern European and International Studies (ZOiS).
    They conducted this survey in Donetsk, or, as always, asked the Donetsk residents who were on the territory of dill.
    1. stalki
      stalki 3 March 2021 14: 45
      +7
      They conducted this survey in Donetsk, or, as always, asked the Donetsk residents who were on the territory of dill.
      Was there a survey at all? The question is rhetorical. laughing I don’t even hesitate that we were sitting in the nose picking and picking to work out the manuals.
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 3 March 2021 23: 15
        +2
        Quote: stalki
        sat in the nose picking and picking to work out the manuals
        And it seems that through the anus, because it is impossible to find so much crap in any nose by direct picking, nmv.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 3 March 2021 20: 59
      +3
      Territory temporarily occupied by dill.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 3 March 2021 14: 26
    +2
    [quote = РУСС] Most residents of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics continue to consider the territory not controlled by Kiev as part of Ukraine [/ quote]
    How interesting they think!
    54,5% of respondents living in the self-proclaimed republics see these territories as part of Ukraine [quote = РУСС]
    But then there are still numbers!
    [quote = РУСС] 18,3% of respondents want the DPR and LPR to become part of Russia without granting autonomy, and the remaining 27,2% - with the receipt of autonomous status. [/ quote]
    18,3 + 27,2 = 35,5 Will someone reckon with their opinion? not so little!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 March 2021 14: 38
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      18,3 + 27,2 = 35,5 Will anyone reckon with their opinion? not so little!

      Firstly, in 2014, and with the opinion of a much larger percentage of people, they did not take into account, and secondly, these numbers are simply lies ...
      1. Hermit21
        Hermit21 3 March 2021 22: 16
        -2
        Why didn't they count. They got what they wanted. Whether someone likes it or not
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2021 14: 40
    -5
    Quote: RUSS

    54,5% of respondents living in the self-proclaimed republics see these territories as part of Ukraine. 31% of the total number of respondents would like the territories to receive an autonomous status within Ukraine, and 23,5% support the return of Donetsk and Luhansk regions to Ukraine without special status, the study says. 18,3% of the polled respondents want the DPR and LPR to become part of Russia without granting autonomy, and the remaining 27,2% - with the receipt of autonomous status.

    Even if all these figures are exaggerated, and I have no doubt about it, then, all the same, such a variety of opinions is the reason why Donbass is not Crimea. In Crimea, there was no such confusion, so everything was decided quickly.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 March 2021 14: 51
      +6
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      Even if all these figures are exaggerated, and I have no doubt about it, then, all the same, such a variety of opinions is the reason why Donbass is not Crimea. In Crimea, there was no such confusion, so everything was decided quickly.

      Confusion?

      And you will conduct a natural experiment, take full and final control of the territory of the entire former Donetsk and Luhansk regions in such a way that people understand and believe that it is forever , and see if there is "confusion (s)" or not.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2021 15: 18
        -3
        Quote: Insurgent
        Confusion?

        I mean confusion (many different) opinions.
        In Crimea, this confusion was not "before", not after.
        There is no one's fault in the situation in Donbass. There was simply more Ukrainian contingent in Donbass than in Crimea. And it is quite logical that they are advocating "stay in Ukraine." Whatever one may do, Ukraine is their Motherland. All this is complicated. Only one thing is certain - this issue must be resolved. And the faster the better.
        The return of Donbass to Ukraine is out of the question.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 3 March 2021 15: 22
          +1
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk

          I mean confusion (many different) opinions.
          In Crimea, this confusion was not "before", not after.


          Are you sure that there was no "confusion" at all, and there is none now, with the amendment that some people just quiet down?

          Tell me, are the "marches for Furgala", "for Navalny", extremism and terrorism, after all, is it "confusion" in Russia?
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2021 19: 48
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent

            Are you sure that there was no "confusion" at all, and there is none now, with the amendment that some people just quiet down?

            If we exclude a certain number of Tatars, then individual groups of Ukrainians did not play and do not play any role.
            In Donbass, these "small groups" are more numerous.
            What do you want to convince me of? I don’t understand.
            Quote: Insurgent

            Tell me, are the "marches for Furgala", "for Navalny", extremism and terrorism, after all, is it "confusion" in Russia?

            Of course. When there is no ideology in the country, i.e. goals, where the state should move, there is natural confusion in the minds. Some in the forest, some for wood, some in the field for the sheep.
            Liberators of all stripes assure us that diversity of opinion is good. But in fact, this is a serious brake on the progressive development of the state.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 3 March 2021 23: 45
              -1
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              When there is no ideology in the country, i.e. goals, where the state should move, there is natural confusion in the minds.
              This is what happened in the USSR, despite the ideological department of the Central Committee of the CPSU, or rather, thanks to it. Zamyatin and Yakovlev as the main ideologists of a socialist society is nonsense. Before Khrushchev, there were well-known ideologists: Zhdanov, Suslov and Shepilov, who "joined them". And after - only Yakovlev can be remembered as the "architect of perestroika". You, of course, went in a different direction (straight to communism) and were not involved in the collapse of the country.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2021 23: 54
                +1
                Quote: sniperino
                This is what happened in the USSR, despite the ideological department of the Central Committee of the CPSU, or rather, thanks to it. Zamyatin and Yakovlev as the main ideologists of a socialist society is nonsense. Before Khrushchev, there were well-known ideologists: Zhdanov, Suslov and who joined them

                Here you mow under the clever here, and you confuse the soft with the white. Sorry for the harshness. Don't you remember how Khrushchev and then Gorby and Yakovlev began to break the ideology. And the USSR fell not because there was an ideology, but because it was perverted, i.e. she was gone.
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 4 March 2021 00: 09
                  -1
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  And the USSR did not fall because the ideology was
                  But because she was not there. Marxist-Leninist ideology was clearly spelled out only before the start of the world revolution. And the building of a socialist state is a completely different historical process, which required the elimination of the bearers of the ideology of permanent revolution. But no one prescribed the new ideology of a socialist society without an internal class struggle, and they did not purge the party ranks. All the enemies were behind the hill, no 5th column, and a couple of werewolf enemies brought down the rule of the people. Nonsense. Do not even try to mow under the clever, denying this obvious fact.
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 11: 10
                    -1
                    Quote: sniperino
                    But no one prescribed the new ideology of socialist society without an internal class struggle, purging the party



                    = There has never been and never will be that the moribund classes voluntarily surrendered their positions without trying to organize resistance. It has never been and never will be that the advance of the working class towards socialism under a class society could do without struggle and unrest. On the contrary, the advance towards socialism cannot but lead to resistance of the exploiting elements to this advance, and the resistance of the exploiters cannot but lead to an inevitable intensification of the class struggle. = J.V. Stalin.
                    Learn materiel, smart guy.
                  2. sniperino
                    sniperino 4 March 2021 11: 55
                    -1
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    It has never happened and never will be that the moribund classes voluntarily surrendered their positions without trying to organize resistance. It has never been and never will be that the advance of the working class towards socialism under a class society could do without struggle.
                    The comprador bourgeoisie resists: they nominated Lyokha, give him information support here in VO and do not get tired of throwing mud at everything that supports our sovereignty, opposing our "here and now" USSR). There are actions on other fronts as well. But their resistance will be broken. This is already noticeable.
                  3. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 14: 03
                    -1
                    Quote: sniperino
                    The comprador bourgeoisie resists: they nominated Lyokha, give him information support here in VO and do not get tired of throwing mud at everything that supports our sovereignty, opposing our "here and now" USSR). There are actions on other fronts as well. But their resistance will be broken. This is already noticeable.

                    "Horses, people mixed up in a heap ..." M.Yu. Lermontov, if cho.
                    N-n-yes. You can't figure it out without half a liter. And considering that I do not drink, then everything is very bad.
                  4. sniperino
                    sniperino 4 March 2021 15: 15
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                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    everything is very bad
                    Are you talking about your ability to understand without half a liter? Or do you want to repeat this spell 100500 times to make you happy?
                  5. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 15: 18
                    -1
                    Quote: sniperino
                    Are you talking about your ability to understand?

                    No, this is about your ability to stick to the stated theme.
                  6. sniperino
                    sniperino 4 March 2021 15: 33
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                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    it's about your ability to stick to the stated theme
                    What's wrong with her? A decent person should speak clearly about this before he pronounces his harsh sentence on my wretched ability. And you just hum, write something about vodka and your sober appearance. Essentially no claims, but you want to turn your misunderstanding into an "argument". Where they teach such cheap tricks.
                  7. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 16: 18
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                    Okay, let's go in order.
                    Quote: sniperino
                    The comprador bourgeoisie resists: they nominated Lyokha, they give him information support here on VO.

                    Where did you see support for the non-poisoned at VO? I have not read a single comment in support of it. Your fantasies.
                    Quote: sniperino
                    do not get tired of throwing mud at everything that supports our sovereignty, opposing our "here and now" blackened by them to popular prints, rouged "there and then" (in the West and in the USSR)

                    You are unfair. Firstly, not everything, but only what is really bad. Well, what's good about the fact that they cannot find funds for the production of a composite? And for the development of oil and gas fields - there is. There is money for the construction of Sabetta, but not for the development of new technologies. And no one hides that in the USSR it was bad with food, roads, housing construction was not at the desired level. So, again, your fantasies.
                    Quote: sniperino
                    There are actions on other fronts as well. But their resistance will be broken. This is already noticeable.

                    What are the fronts? What actions? Whose and to whom is the resistance? What is noticeable? You are in your world and want to be found there and understand what you mean.
                  8. sniperino
                    sniperino 4 March 2021 17: 18
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                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Where did you see support for the non-poisoned at VO?
                    Nobody here wrote about "Putin's palace"? That N was investigating something there, and he was jailed for it. Are you trying to lie imperceptibly, jumping abruptly from lying to a bunch of questions and insults. You loop like a bunny, as if you are afraid of something.
                  9. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 18: 43
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                    Quote: sniperino
                    Nobody here wrote about "Putin's palace"?

                    Who wrote? Was there an article? Personally, I expressed my opinion on this matter - I don’t care whose palace it is, even if it’s Putin. We live in a cap. country, bourgeois have money, so they can build palaces and fly into space on a personal ship. Trumps can have palaces, but Putin is not allowed? The main thing is that the construction does not come from the state. budget.
                    Quote: sniperino
                    investigated, but he was imprisoned for it. Are you trying to lie imperceptibly, jumping abruptly from a lie to a heap of questions and

                    What lies, dear? What are you talking about? I just as "love" the unpoisoned as you do.
                    Quote: sniperino
                    You loop like a bunny, as if you are afraid of something.

                    Well, you completely reported it. Are you writing for an hour not under the influence of a wild animal? Have you rolled a glass?
                  10. sniperino
                    sniperino 4 March 2021 19: 23
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                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Who wrote? Was there an article? Personally, I expressed my opinion on this matter.
                    It was an answer to a specific question and a lie to it.
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Where did you see support for the non-poisoned at VO? I have not read a single comment in support of it. Your fantasies.
                    Move on without me.
  • Artem76
    Artem76 3 March 2021 16: 00
    +1
    And who do you think is in the People's Militia and in the militia (mind you - voluntarily), what percentage? All these bourgeois research centers are the Center for lying and promoting their policies.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 March 2021 16: 24
      +1
      Quote: Artyom76
      And who do you think is in the People's Militia and in the militia (mind you - voluntarily), what percentage? All these bourgeois research centers are the Center for lying and promoting their policies.


      I am talking about this, that all the figures of the "polls", "ratings" pushed here "under the guise" are nothing more than a company of disinformation.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 March 2021 14: 21
    +7
    It is high time, as long as one can endure, these Bandera supporters must be beaten, beaten and beaten, these are not people.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2021 15: 25
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      It is high time, as long as one can endure, these Bandera supporters must be beaten, beaten and beaten, these are not people.

      No, they are people too. Ukraine is their Motherland. Their homeland is being torn apart. They took, in their understanding, Crimea, they took, in their understanding, Donbass. Therefore, it is quite normal reaction to resist it. Due to the fact that there is no understanding - how? They chose the simplest way - nationalism. It is more understandable to the masses of the politically illiterate people. The result is obvious - the emergence of frostbitten Nazis.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 3 March 2021 17: 31
        +2
        Get into their clutches, you will find out what kind of people they are, this has been known since the 40s of the last century, you can remember Odessa in 14th of this century.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2021 19: 51
          0
          Quote: Ros 56
          Get into their clutches, you will find out what kind of people they are, this has been known since the 40s of the last century, you can remember Odessa in 14th of this century.

          I agree with you. But I'm not talking about the frostbitten Nazis, but about the mass of Ukrainian citizens.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 4 March 2021 08: 07
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            So the bulk of the house is sitting, downtrodden and intimidated, and not running around the fields with weapons. What about them we are talking about, we are talking about the mindless Banderlog.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 10: 42
              -1
              Quote: Ros 56
              runs with weapons. What about them we are talking about, we are talking about the mindless Banderlog.

              Yours is not true. I spoke specifically about ordinary citizens of Ukraine. About what and how they think about Crimea and Donbass.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 4 March 2021 12: 27
                +1
                And nobody cares what they think. The main thing is what they do. But thinking and threshing with your tongue is about nothing. As they say, the fool gets richer with a thought. laughing
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 13: 43
                  -1
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  And nobody cares what they think.

                  This is not interesting for you. Because you are used to what they think for you. And those who need to be very interested in the moral and psychological state of the people, the country - a potential enemy.
                  1. Ros 56
                    Ros 56 4 March 2021 15: 10
                    +2
                    You understand a lot, a potential enemy, he is an enemy in Africa too, you cannot approach everyone and ask. Stop crap.
                    1. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 15: 13
                      -1
                      Quote: Ros 56
                      you cannot approach everyone and ask.

                      LOL
                      1. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 4 March 2021 15: 14
                        +1
                        Congratulations, did you really become a gelding? lol
                      2. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 15: 17
                        -1
                        Quote: Ros 56
                        Congratulations, did you really become a gelding? lol

                        With such a mare, why not become?
                      3. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 4 March 2021 15: 31
                        +1
                        Stupid, a gelding does not need a mare. laughing fool
                      4. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 4 March 2021 16: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Ros 56
                        Stupid, a gelding does not need a mare. laughing fool

                        Everyone needs a mare. Not for one case, but for another.
  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 3 March 2021 20: 41
    0
    In this way, you can justify Hitler! They say he understood so. He is the head of the world, and the rest of the nations hindered him, and are unworthy to live. Your name is not by chance from Urengoy?
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 3 March 2021 21: 51
      0
      Quote: Rusticolus
      In this way, you can justify Hitler

      Well, accusing me of trying to justify someone is your drunken delirium.
      And I wrote this for your own understanding of the psychological state of an ordinary Ukrainian. The enemy, for that matter, you need to know his psychology, motivation, as well.
      "Hitlers come and go, but the people of Germany remain" JV Stalin.
      Will you call him a rut from the Urengoy?
  • Irek
    Irek 3 March 2021 14: 22
    +4
    It is necessary to fry in warehouses and headquarters.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 3 March 2021 14: 23
    -2
    Soon on all counters of the Ukrainian markets. Meat from a reliable supplier - the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
  • svp67
    svp67 3 March 2021 14: 24
    +4
    Subdivisions of the People's Militia were given permission to conduct preemptive fire to suppress and destroy enemy firing points.
    The situation is "heating up and heating up ..."
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 March 2021 14: 55
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      The situation is "heating up and heating up ..."

      Bandera are getting ready. The instructions from the "big river" are being carried out, propaganda and fakes are scattered throughout the media.
  • Avior
    Avior 3 March 2021 14: 43
    -3
    ... permission to fire pre-emptive fire has been granted

    Preemptive fire is, read, carte blanche for an attack. Perhaps the truce is gradually ending. It's a pity...:(((
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos 4 March 2021 00: 36
      -2
      Quote: Avior
      Preemptive fire is, read, carte blanche for an attack. Perhaps the truce is gradually ending. It's a pity...:(((

      as there was no attitude towards Zelensky, it worked, there were much fewer victims on both sides, and their number decreased over time.
      This is probably what got in the way. After all, without victims, this conflict would not even get into the news and would not warm up the audience.
      A pre-fire permit is used as an attack permit. To retaliate "pre-emptive fire". And as a result, there will be more victims and everyone will curse each other even more.
      When a large number of victims is reached, Zelensky will be required to open fire on any suspicious object and use a large caliber + UAV and so on. And these will be not only nationalists, but others as well.
      It is strange that even such a barely working truce with a minimum of casualties is not needed by anyone. Well, you need to demonstrate something to someone.
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 3 March 2021 14: 55
    +4
    Long ago they would have carried out aerial reconnaissance and struck for destruction. Otherwise we are pulling, pulling ... We’ll hold out ...
  • garik77
    garik77 3 March 2021 15: 27
    +3
    It was high time to do so.
  • sgr291158
    sgr291158 3 March 2021 15: 33
    +3
    It is high time, how much you can already endure.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 3 March 2021 15: 47
    +2
    DPR servicemen allowed to suppress the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    That's right, the aggressor must be destroyed.
  • Kapral Alphych
    Kapral Alphych 3 March 2021 16: 51
    +4
    You shouldn't have "forbidden", you wouldn't have had to "allow."
  • YURI N.
    YURI N. 3 March 2021 17: 35
    +3
    Now is the time for Russia to spend in the framework of the exercises. Transfer of two three combined-arms brigades to the Bunderland border. Both our teachings and the army of the clown have nervous breakdowns ...
  • agoran
    agoran 3 March 2021 20: 36
    +1
    I have such a thinker.
    It is necessary to supply the LPNR with modern means of electronic warfare / electronic warfare, strike UAVs and other modern equipment.
    Why?
    Lavrov said that the Russian Federation is ready to break off relations with the West, because there are practically no relations.
    It's time to crush Bandera reptile.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 3 March 2021 20: 57
    +3
    It would be necessary to still strike at the Bandera command in the rear of the Nazis, the Russian land should burn underfoot.
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 3 March 2021 22: 25
    0
    Well, fine.
  • George Koval
    George Koval 4 March 2021 03: 06
    +2
    In addition, it is high time for the Republics to respond to the sabotage of the Kiev regime with their sabotage: it is high time to deal with war criminals: Poroshenko, Avakov, Yatsenyuk, Turchinov, Yarosh (to begin with)
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 March 2021 06: 58
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      Georgy Koval (Georgy Koval)
      Today, 03: 06
      NEW
      +1
      In addition, it is high time for the Republics to respond to the sabotage of the Kiev regime with their sabotage: it is high time to deal with war criminals: Poroshenko, Avakov, Yatsenyuk, Turchinov, Yarosh (to begin with)
      And there is a world example of this, when the Israelite warriors seize those who disagree with them all over the world. And they scored at all en masse and at once.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 4 March 2021 06: 57
    0
    Therefore, the DPR servicemen, in order to protect the civilian population of the republic from Ukrainian shelling, will be forced to suppress and destroy the firing points of the Ukrainian army.
    good It is high time. There is no need to endure the chaos of the Nazis. angry
  • German Titov
    German Titov 4 March 2021 07: 34
    +2
    Center of Donetsk. Heard in the morning.
  • Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 4 March 2021 09: 42
    -1
    Have you just allowed it now? A nightmare if so. Some idiocy to forbid to fire at the enemy if necessary! The real commanders have died, and the new ones only listen to politicians.