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On old Soviet technology: the US media analyzed the state of the DPRK army

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On old Soviet technology: the US media analyzed the state of the DPRK army

The American magazine The National Interest published an article analyzing the state of the DPRK ground forces. As you know, North Korea has one of the largest armies in the world. According to the list of countries in the world in terms of the number of armed forces, the DPRK is second only to China, India and the United States, overtaking the Russian Federation, Pakistan, Iran and South Korea.


With a high number on old Soviet technology


The number of ground forces of the Korean People's Army, according to English-language sources, is estimated at about 950 thousand - 1,1 million personnel in active military service, and 7 million 620 thousand people who are in reserve. According to the IISS Military Balance report, the Korean People's Army's ground forces numbered 2017 in 1. They include 020 headquarters of mechanized corps, headquarters of 000 infantry corps; one tank division and 15 tank brigades, 4 mechanized divisions, 27 infantry divisions, 14 infantry brigades, 2 anti-aircraft missile brigades, 1 artillery division and 1 artillery brigade, 9 rocket brigades, 1 engineering brigade.

In terms of numbers, the Korean People's Army's ground forces significantly outnumber the ground forces of the Republic of Korea's armed forces. But Alexander Suvorov also said that you need to fight not by numbers, but by skill, and in modern conditions the quantity and quality of modern military equipment, as well as the ability of personnel to maintain and operate it, come first. With this, the DPRK, according to the analyst of The National Interest Mark Bishopos, and there are very serious problems.

Most of the personnel of the North Korean ground forces serve on old Soviet equipment of the mid-twentieth century. A significant part of this technology is already on the verge of failure: decades of service are making themselves felt, there's nothing you can do about it. Of course, 15 tank brigades sounds rather intimidating, but in reality, the KPA tank forces consist mainly of T-54/55 and T-62. Some North Korean tanks are over six decades old. South Korea, recalls Episkopos, has much more advanced models of tanks, including its own production.

A mirror picture, according to Bishopos, who is trying to analyze the state of the DPRK army, can also be observed in artillery units and formations of the DPRK armed forces: the basis of their firepower is Soviet howitzers of the mid-twentieth century, which have a low firing range and low accuracy. North Korean artillery pieces - tracing paper from old Soviet models. The situation is even worse with armored vehicles and helicopters: there is also a clear superiority of the South Korean armed forces.


The DPRK will not win the war without nuclear weapons


Mark Episkopos concludes that without nuclear weapons the DPRK's chances of winning the war are slim. In the field of conventional weapons, South Korea is head and shoulders above its northern opponent, and this applies to all weapons without exception - artillery, tanks, armored vehicles, helicopters, and aircraft. And the large number of KPA personnel does not yet guarantee that the soldiers are well trained, well fed, healthy and motivated. Perhaps that is why the North Korean leadership has always paid so much attention to the nuclear program.

But in addition to nuclear weapons, Pyongyang's undoubted trump card is support from China: Beijing is not interested in the formation of a single pro-American state on the Korean Peninsula or in South Korea, as an ally of the United States, to significantly strengthen its position in the region.

To correct the situation, according to the American analyst, a total modernization of the North Korean armed forces could be, but there are no funds for its implementation. In addition, such a global reform is possible only if there are forces in the country's leadership that are interested in the overall improvement of the political system, and not in maintaining stagnation. It is unlikely that the North Korean elite will be able to find the strength and ability to modernize the army and state, although there is indeed potential to turn North Korea into a more powerful state.
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  1. Alexga
    Alexga 3 March 2021 15: 52
    +2
    Nuclear weapons and military aid to the PLA are enough to defeat the ROK.
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 3 March 2021 15: 55
      +5
      Yes, they will tear apart the southerners even without nuclear weapons.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 3 March 2021 18: 36
        -3
        Quote: WHAT IS
        Yes, they will tear apart the southerners even without nuclear weapons.

        What will be torn and crushed with what?
        1. Civil
          Civil 4 March 2021 07: 23
          0
          The enemy of our enemy is our friend, and the political autocratic system is almost fraternal for Moscow. So we need to help re-equip the North Koreans. Yes, only bad luck, South Korea did not join the sanctions and is actively cooperating with Russia in the supply of high-tech equipment.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 4 March 2021 13: 22
            0
            Quote: Civil
            The enemy of our enemy is our friend,

            Definitely, t.s. you understand the whole current political moment.
            and the political autocratic system is almost fraternal for Moscow.

            This is debatable. Their political movement "Juche" differs from the communist doctrine, from which they abandoned after the Korean War of 1950-1953.
            So we need to help re-equip the North Koreans.

            Unambiguously, and not only В and ВТ, but also technologies, especially many products, both military and civilian design of the Soviet model, they can make themselves and successfully do, there are not enough resources for the development of technologies and modernization of production.
            Yes, only bad luck, South Korea did not join the sanctions and is actively cooperating with Russia in the supply of high-tech equipment.

            Interestingly, the South Caucasus would have joined the sanctions against the Russian Federation if we had not joined the sanctions against the DPRK? Brothers from the DPRK, good guys, but here we have to choose where the benefits are for the Russian Federation, we will get more benefits from the South Caucasus, however, the existence of the DPRK is also beneficial to us.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 March 2021 13: 44
          0
          A huge amount of cannon artillery and MLRS. Which literally reaches the big cities. Seoul can be demolished simply by a runaway. Along the border there are more than 8000 guns of all stripes. Seoul is 20 km away.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 March 2021 02: 57
        +1
        The grandfather of the current pupsik also thought so, and then yelled into the phone-Tovarisch Stalin will helpeeeeeeeee
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 3 March 2021 16: 00
      +4
      Quote: AlexGa
      Nuclear weapons and military aid to the PLA are enough to defeat the ROK.

      It would have been so bad for the Kims - why are South Koreans still not showing their tongues to Chinese border guards and twisting their cookies? And how did the epic pro (ghmmm ...) shaft with the American "expeditionary-terrifying" aircraft carrier end up? I'm not talking about how Trump shouted that "just about" he and the Kims will end it.

      Maybe not everything is so deplorable with them, if the "world hegemon" has done it so badly?
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 3 March 2021 16: 57
        0
        Maybe not all of them are so deplorable

        ROK is an outpost of the United States against China, North Korea is only occasion have a strong, well-armed army. In fact, the Republic of Korea itself cares about the integrity of North Korea - according to the National Security Law, all North Koreans are terrorists - separatists, in case of joining any official, officer will have a trial and a term. The administration of the Republic of Kazakhstan has governing bodies for the "Northern Territories" up to the rectors of universities, i.e. the entire upper and middle class of the DPRK will immediately lose their jobs. It just makes no sense for them to support the coup.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 3 March 2021 17: 51
          +1
          Quote: strannik1985
          Maybe not all of them are so deplorable

          ROK is an outpost of the United States against China, North Korea is only occasion have a strong, well-armed army. In fact, the Republic of Korea itself cares about the integrity of North Korea - according to the National Security Law, all North Koreans are terrorists - separatists, in case of joining any official, officer will have a trial and a term. The administration of the Republic of Kazakhstan has governing bodies for the "Northern Territories" up to the rectors of universities, i.e. the entire upper and middle class of the DPRK will immediately lose their jobs. It just makes no sense for them to support the coup.

          I involuntarily remember Donbass and Crimea and how Kiev “joyfully” calls them “to reunite”, simultaneously promising them all the “nishtyaks” that you, Vladimir, have painted ...
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 3 March 2021 16: 05
      +3
      The PLA will most likely sit and watch, and if it goes badly, it will cross the border and take as long as it can, according to the principle, we are better than the Southerners and the Americans.

      Do not confuse China and the Kim kingdom. wink
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 3 March 2021 16: 46
        +1
        On old Soviet technology: the US media analyzed the state of the DPRK army

        An interesting thematic selection of videos with a breakdown of the details.




    4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 March 2021 17: 34
      +3
      Quote: AlexGa
      to defeat RK

      If not for the Anglo-Saxons, the Koreans made it up a long time ago.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 3 March 2021 18: 10
        0
        the main thing in war is motivation.
  2. Alien From
    Alien From 3 March 2021 15: 54
    -1
    Of course, Koreans are like a bone in the throat to the Chinese.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 3 March 2021 18: 55
      -2
      Quote: Alien From
      Of course, Koreans are like a bone in the throat to the Chinese.

      Especially when you consider that once the Koreans (like the Vietnamese) were part of ancient China ...
  3. credo
    credo 3 March 2021 15: 56
    0
    Mark Episkopos concludes that without nuclear weapons, the DPRK's chances of winning the war are negligible.


    Oh, those American experts. They will never get drunk on someone else's blood in a foreign country.
    On a computer, articles are empty to write or sit in a trench under bullets.
    By the example of the "bright" victories of the US army in Afghanistan, one can judge their real deeds.
    Apparently, the memory has completely broken off since the Vietnam War.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 3 March 2021 16: 02
      +2
      Quote: credo
      By the example of the "bright" victories of the US army in Afghanistan, one can judge their real deeds.

      "Oranges will not be born from aspen." What kind of army, such are the "victories" ...
    2. spirit
      spirit 3 March 2021 17: 30
      -6
      Vietnam is a completely different matter! There the struggle for independence was going on long before the Americans, they starved out. Immediately everything will be decided just by the motivation that the generals are the soldiers and there is a high degree of probability that the generals will quickly drain the plump Kim at the first naughty, and the soldiers will scatter! Since there is no positive motivation, why should a hungry and poor soldier die for Kim?
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 3 March 2021 20: 08
        +2
        Since there is no positive motivation, why would a hungry and poor soldier die for Kim?

        Or maybe they are not so hungry and poor as the domestic media tell us?
  4. Jager
    Jager 3 March 2021 16: 00
    -10%
    Remove American weapons from the South Caucasus and the southern ones will be left with digging sticks.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 March 2021 16: 16
      +9
      Not. The ROK already has very few American weapons. On the contrary, they have become a buyer in the top 10 arms exporters in the world.

      We do not even take into account the fleet, by the way, they transferred the second ship to the Philippines the other day, completing the contract for $ 400 million (311 - the ships themselves, without weapons and training).


      The old-current generation BMP is licensed in Turkey (yes, it's him boxes of babakhs in Idlib) and supplied to Malaysia, the Indonesian Marine Corps.


      A new generation BMP, the main candidate in a large tender in Australia, is also being considered by India, Malaysia and some Arab countries.


      K9 - supplied and participates in a bunch of tenders. Serially produces in Turkey. Even the warlike Finns chose K9 for example.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 3 March 2021 18: 59
      -2
      Quote: Jager
      Remove American weapons from the South Caucasus and the southern ones will be left with digging sticks.

      There is the headquarters of the 8th PA and PD of the US Army .... and at least the Air Force ...., i.e. symbolic presence ...
  5. Guru
    Guru 3 March 2021 16: 29
    -6
    global reform is possible only if there are those forces in the country's leadership that are interested in the general improvement of the political system, and not in preserving stagnation.
    The USSR has already emerged from stagnation and fell into complete disrepair.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 3 March 2021 16: 30
    +3
    To hit Seoul, which is about 40 kilometers from Pyongyang, no special accuracy is needed. For decades, North Koreans have lived under sanctions that hinder their economic growth, and yet they are able to stand up for themselves!
    1. Fredgar Puzix Jr.
      Fredgar Puzix Jr. 4 March 2021 02: 15
      0
      In the same place in a straight line 200 km somewhere
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 March 2021 16: 31
    +2
    About 10 years ago, off the coast of the South Caucasus, a North Korean submarine with North Korean special forces on board suffered Avria. Half of the South Korean army with the Americans chased after them. Not a single North Korean did not surrender. One passed through their orders like a knife through butter. He crossed the most guarded border and all wounded returned home. Became a hero of North Korea. Maybe a fake like with Donald Cook! The only thing that is known is that the North Korean army has the largest percentage of special forces in relation to other military. And they are the most crazy in the world. At one time, the Americans were chopped up with shovels. , for the fact that they wanted to cut down a tree on the border, and on neutral territory. A heroic death from a Korean shovel for an attempt to cut down a tree. The official footage of the Korean special forces is simply amazing. Obviously, this "churchman" did not watch them. Yes, and Eun has a bomb and delivery means too.
    1. kit88
      kit88 3 March 2021 17: 25
      +10
      The fact is that the Americans cut down the tree in principle. Although at first they just wanted to cut the branches that interfere with the view. Well, they did not know that this poplar was planted by Kim Il Sung himself!
      Manpower and resources involved for cutting a tree:
      16 sappers, 23 armored cars, 20 helicopters, B-52, F-4, F-5, F-86, F-111, aircraft carrier Midway.
      1. smart fellow
        smart fellow 5 March 2021 12: 48
        +1
        A battalion of South Korean special forces guarded the sawers.
    2. smart fellow
      smart fellow 5 March 2021 12: 47
      0
      A KPA junior lieutenant hacked to death 2 American officers with an ax, which he took away from them. Those. the ax was American.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 5 March 2021 12: 58
        0
        And the Americans are buried in the Arligton cemetery, the grief of the warriors. In general, I do not understand how the Korean did this. The light-faced say that the Koreans are shaken by the wind from hunger. But I realized that he attacked in the wind, and not against the wind.
  8. svp67
    svp67 3 March 2021 16: 42
    +1
    Someone decided to tear up this "wound" too ...?
  9. mvg
    mvg 3 March 2021 17: 35
    -3
    They just discovered America, cap. Incredible layout
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 3 March 2021 17: 43
    0
    The DPRK will not win the war without nuclear weapons

    And sho, there are already those who want to CHECK ???
  11. Dmitry Izmalkov
    Dmitry Izmalkov 3 March 2021 17: 48
    0
    Was $ 5 billion spent on analysis?
  12. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 3 March 2021 18: 33
    -1
    Yes, as I see from the comments, here they are ready to fight with the United States to the last Korean. The secret of North Korea's invincibility lies not in its powerful army, but in devastation and beggarly life. The problem is not to defeat this army, but then to feed and shoe all this poor people. Here, like with dried manure, it seems to be there and even interferes, but if you stir it up, it stinks and you have to rake everything with your hands. It is enough for the southerners to leave containers with food, clothing and household appliances on the first line of defense, taking their own troops away. Then the sun-faced Eun will not have time to look back, kaa he is pulled over the barrel of a howitzer and shmalnuyu in the glory of his father and grandfather.
    I have a different question, everyone who praises Eun and North Korea in such a way, are you seriously saying this, or is it just for the sake of bravado without hesitation? Live with such a collective farm for a year or two, getting up at 7, without fail, to the anthem, bow before ... but at least in front of the post and repaint all the rubble white on the railway, for example, from Moscow to Kaluga. As a leisure, the 7 types of male hairstyles approved by the sun-faced Eun, and then let's talk about the delights of the North Korean regime ...
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 3 March 2021 20: 07
      0
      Quote: Bshkaus
      Live with such a collective farm for a year or two, getting up at 7, without fail, to the anthem,

      Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers lived and built the great country of the USSR. And it's better to live like this than in a skyscraper and not do a fucking thing, just sucking up the invaders
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 3 March 2021 22: 03
        -3
        "Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers lived and built the great country of the USSR"
        Well, so great that it could not withstand the onslaught of tattered jeans and gum)))
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 3 March 2021 22: 18
          +1
          It is not necessary to call the treachery of the top an onslaught of jeans. And why did you buy the ragged ones, by the way? laughing
  13. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 3 March 2021 18: 33
    +2
    1 artillery division

    Where did one more AD (former Kondomsky Art. Corps) and two Artillery corps go?
    1 artillery brigade
    where there are 8 more ABRs. (each PC has one ABR.)
    9 jet brigades
    what a "beast", in each PC (Infantry Corps) there is one rocket artillery brigade ....
    Where did the pontoon bridge shelves (hull set) go ...
    About the MTR KPA not a word at all ...
    Yes, and the number of the KPA has long been about 800 thousand people. Thus, the KPA is not much superior to the Armed Forces of the South Caucasus, and in terms of the number of the mobilization reserve it is still lagging behind, because in the DPRK the population is two times less than in the South Caucasus ...
    Following the results of the Gulf War, the DPRK began to carry out reforms, reducing the number of the KPA and its combat strength, two of the 4 artillery. The hulls were reduced to HELL, all 4 MKs were reduced to 4 MDs, the only TC again became the 105th Seoul TD ...
    12 PCs were reduced to 9 PCs (apparently due to the frankly weak DPRK located in the north ...) ...
    The article is hack, he wrote clearly a liberoid, there are few sources on the Internet about the KPA, but you can find a little ... I wonder what year the author used the sources ...
    Soviet howitzers of the mid-twentieth century, which have a low firing range and low accuracy

    Nothing to discuss at all ...
    The situation with armored vehicles is even worse.

    All armored combat vehicles are in service with the 105th TD (all MBs on BMPs) and 4 MDs ... (all MBs on armored personnel carriers and cars) l / s PD moves on automotive vehicles (excluding PDs of the first echelon, there is also BTR), earlier as part of the KPA there were also training (reserve) PDs (analogue of the cropped SA divisions) generally did not even have automotive equipment, and their APs were reduced in composition and had only towed old-style guns ...
    It is unlikely that the North Korean elite will be able to find the strength and ability to modernize the army and state.

    Meanwhile, the modernization of the KPA is being carried out .... although the PRC and the Russian Federation provide military equipment, military equipment and military technologies of the DPRK, in a limited amount and only for defense, neither one nor the other is disadvantageous to strengthening the KPA ...
    although the potential to transform North Korea into a more powerful state does exist

    The author does not specify what he means by the word "powerful" and what potential he writes about ....
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  15. garik77
    garik77 3 March 2021 20: 47
    -1
    Quote: Lara Croft
    Quote: WHAT IS
    Yes, they will tear apart the southerners even without nuclear weapons.

    What will be torn and crushed with what?

    They constantly test missiles. It can be assumed that with this, the Kims are more or less ...
  16. otstoy
    otstoy 4 March 2021 10: 05
    +1
    The T-62 is not at all old and junk, but a good tank in our times. For the authors of the article think in terms of tank duels and breakthroughs of the 20th century, which are outdated long ago. Now the tank is only a heavily armored self-propelled self-propelled gun to support infantry from distances of 2.5-3.0 km. Its opponents are DRGs with RPGs, ATGMs or ballistic missiles, striking not at all in the forehead, but at the sides, stern and roof. Those. from the projections, where modern tanks govno, much worse than the T-62. Which, moreover, is 10 times cheaper than them.
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 4 March 2021 13: 51
    0
    Quote: Lara Croft
    Quote: WHAT IS
    Yes, they will tear apart the southerners even without nuclear weapons.

    What will be torn and crushed with what?

    Spetsnaz.
  18. Old26
    Old26 4 March 2021 15: 59
    0
    Quote: WHAT IS
    Yes, they will tear apart the southerners even without nuclear weapons.

    They will not tear. Even the smaller size of the South Caucasus army is compensated by the modern weapons of South Korea.

    Quote: carstorm 11
    A huge amount of cannon artillery and MLRS. Which literally reaches the big cities. Seoul can be demolished simply by a runaway. Along the border there are more than 8000 guns of all stripes. Seoul is 20 km away.

    Do not forget that a huge amount of cannon artillery and MLRS are "smeared" throughout the DMZ, and this EMNIP is almost 250 km away and part of it is located in the depths of the DPRK and on the borders with Russia and the PRC.
    As a result, the number of barreled artillery is about 8600 units. Some of which have a caliber of 122 mm, which means a range of about 15-18 km (this does not "hold out" to South Korean cities
    The number of MLRS is about 5500 units, of which about 2500 units have a 107-mm caliber and most of the rest have a 122-mm caliber. It does not reach cities from the territory of the DPRK. 7500 mortars - of which most are 82mm and 120mm. As a result, of 21600 barrels and MLRS, only an insignificant part can strike from the territory of the DPRK on the cities of South Korea
  19. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 4 March 2021 16: 07
    0
    A mirror picture, according to Bishopos, who is trying to analyze the state of the DPRK army, can also be observed in artillery units and formations of the DPRK armed forces: the basis of their firepower is Soviet howitzers of the mid-twentieth century, which have a low firing range and low accuracy. North Korean artillery pieces - tracing paper from old Soviet models.

    There is a modern example for evaluating North Korean artillery - the shelling of Yeongpyeong Island in 2010.
    One salvo of 122 mm MLRS (108 missiles) and 2 K-9 failed due to combat damage + 1 more K-9 due to technical problems. In other words, the K-9 floor battery failed after only one volley of MLRS. 2 southern soldiers were beaten and killed and 19 wounded.
    And there are several thousand such and more powerful MLRS (up to 600 mm) in the DPRK.
  20. Old26
    Old26 4 March 2021 19: 27
    0
    Quote: Kostadinov
    And there are several thousand such and more powerful MLRS (up to 600 mm) in the DPRK.

    If they have 600 mm, if they have twenty, that's good. As well as others. Approximately 2000-2500 of 5500 MLRS are 107-mm MLRS with a firing range of 6-10 km
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 5 March 2021 15: 19
    +2
    To correct the situation, according to the American analyst, a total modernization of the North Korean armed forces could be, but there are no funds for its implementation.
    But comrade Kim bangs somewhere, and there will be no one to analyze. And nowhere, and nothing.
    wassat wassat wassat
  22. Peaceful SEO
    Peaceful SEO 7 March 2021 10: 51
    +1
    The number of ground forces of the Korean People's Army, according to English-speaking sources, is estimated at about 950 thousands - 1,1 million personnel, active duty

    Copywriters are such copywriters :)
  23. Pardus
    Pardus 11 March 2021 15: 35
    +12
    in the US media analyzed the state of the DPRK army

    Because the US media did not have reliable information about the state of the DPRK army, they began to invent and fantasize laughing
  24. Pardus
    Pardus 11 March 2021 15: 38
    +10
    In the field of conventional weapons, South Korea is head and shoulders above its northern opponent, and this applies to all weapons without exception.

    the large number of KPA personnel does not yet guarantee that the soldiers are well trained, well fed, healthy and motivated

    Doubtful claims in the spirit of American Cold War propaganda.
  25. Pardus
    Pardus 11 March 2021 15: 39
    +11
    To correct the situation, according to the American analyst, a total modernization of the North Korean armed forces could

    And the modernization is happening !!! The last parade of the DPRK army is proof of this.