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In the Chinese media: Russia, lagging behind in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles, is unlikely to be able to "recoup" due to the UAV "Okhotnik"

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In the competition between manufacturers of unmanned aerial vehicles, the Russian Federation lags far behind. And the only hope to reduce this gap is its unique development - the S-70 "Okhotnik" UAV.


This is the opinion of the author, who publishes material on the Chinese information portal Sina.

At the same time, the author suggested that Russia, which is lagging behind in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles, can hardly “recoup” at the expense of the “Okhotnik” UAV. After all, in his opinion, she has not yet gained enough experience in order to create the most perfect drone in the world, although it looks beautiful. An important question: Russia should recoup with whom and in front of whom?

The Chinese media note that at the moment there are very few countries in the world capable of producing unmanned vehicles of the level of the American MQ-9 Reaper. And there are no Russian enterprises among such manufacturers.

From the article:

Russia does not have effective attack drones, and Russian-made reconnaissance UAVs have not yet proven themselves very well.

The Chinese author, apparently, has not heard anything about successful strikes with the help of shock drones of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria.

In particular, the author believes that the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 in its characteristics is significantly superior to the "Orlan-10" made in the Russian Federation.

According to the published data, the heavy, inconspicuous attack UAV S-70 "Okhotnik", created by the Sukhoi Design Bureau, has a take-off weight of 25 tons and is capable of speeds up to one thousand kilometers per hour. The vehicle is 14 meters long and has a wingspan of 19 meters. It is planned to equip it with intra-fuselage missiles, including air-to-air missiles. Previously, this option was described in the press as a combat drone with an interceptor function.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 3 March 2021 11: 30
    +4
    In the Chinese media: Russia, lagging behind in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles, is unlikely to be able to "recoup" due to the UAV "Okhotnik"

    So yes, the topic needs to be developed further, not to slow down ... the trouble is the beginning, I hope ours have already "harnessed" and then we will rush without stopping.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 3 March 2021 11: 47
      +16
      In order to run without stopping, we need conditions for the implementation of people who are sick with UAVs, electronics, programming, and other things that are important for this, we rushed to create. Plus, the opportunity for small firms to work for this. In general, a lot of things were needed yesterday. So far, only the conditions have been created for successful theft, incompetence and different uryakalok. There are a lot of ideas among young people, but there is no such thing to implement, to check without hemorrhoids on your head.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 3 March 2021 11: 52
        +11
        Don't thicken the paint. We already have strike UAVs.
        ... In particular, the author believes that the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 in its characteristics is significantly superior to the "Orlan-10" made in the Russian Federation.


        Bayraktar should be compared with Orion-RU, and not with the reconnaissance Orlan-10.

        In 2019, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced that Orion had successfully bombed in Syria.

        And now it is a serial aircraft, which, on the basis of the rights of an adopted and mass-produced unmanned aerial complex, makes scheduled flights with the aim of delivering targeted strikes at the positions of militants.



        ... The drone created is quite close in characteristics to the second modification of the "Predator".

        Wingspan - 16,3 m, length - 8 m, height - 2,2 m.

        Takeoff weight - 1000 kg, payload weight - 200 kg.

        The speed is 120-200 km / h.

        The flight range is 250 km, the range when using a repeater UAV is 300 km.

        Flight duration - 24 hours.

        Height - 7500 m.

        Initially, the American Rotax 914 piston engine rated 115 hp was installed, which is used on the "Predator". But it was replaced by a domestic 110 hp APD-120/120 engine developed by Agat and the Central Institute of Aviation Motors. A two-bladed pusher propeller with a diameter of 1,9 m is installed in the tail section of the vehicle. The nose landing gear is retractable. A retractable tail crutch is also located at the back, designed to protect the propeller.

        Airborne electronic equipment - variable configuration. These or those systems are installed depending on the formulation of reconnaissance missions. Reconnaissance can be radar, visual, and radio-technical. The radar for Orion was developed by the Fazatron-NIIR company, which serves the Sukhoi and Mikoyan design bureaus, as well as creates ship radars. There is also a digital camera, a radio spectrum analyzer, and electromagnetic equipment. The gyro-stabilized sighting system, which provides guidance of the drone and its weapons to ground targets, includes two thermal imaging cameras, a wide-angle television camera and a laser rangefinder-designator.

        The radio-electronic equipment includes two more systems - communication with the command post performing flight correction, as well as an inertial-satellite navigation system operating with two signals - GPS and GLONASS.


        For Orion, a significant number of bombs and missiles have been developed, which can be conditionally divided into two types: 25 and 50 kg. But there is still differentiation both in the method of targeting and in the type of warhead. They were created directly by the Kronstadt company, the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation, and the Central Research Institute of Chemistry and Mechanics.

        Orion's arsenal is as follows:

        - KAB-20 - corrected aerial bomb with high-explosive fragmentation warhead, satellite or laser guidance. Weight - 21 kg, warhead weight - 7 kg;

        - UPAB-50 - a guided gliding bomb with a warhead MLRS "Grad". Weight - 50 kg, warhead weight - 37 kg;

        - KAB-50 - corrected aerial bomb with warhead MLRS "Grad". Guidance: satellite / laser / television / thermal imaging. Weight - 46 kg, warhead weight - 37 kg;

        - FAB-50 - free-falling aerial bomb. Weight - 50 kg, warhead weight - n / a;

        - X-50 - an aviation guided missile with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead of increased penetrating ability. Guidance: inertial / satellite / various homing heads. Weight - 50 kg, warhead weight - 10-20 kg (depending on the type of seeker).

        Ammunition weighing 25 kg is designed to destroy manpower and lightly armored equipment, 50-kilogram ammunition, in addition, is capable of hitting armored equipment such as a tank.

        https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/288624/
        1. Vladimir podryatov
          Vladimir podryatov 4 March 2021 19: 52
          0
          Rotach is the most renowned manufacturer of low power piston aircraft engines in the world. The production has been in Dresden since World War II, after the war it moved to Austria in Grunskirchen - this is an Austrian company.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 3 March 2021 11: 59
        +6
        Quote: evgen1221
        To go without stopping, you need conditions for the implementation

        I, that, wrote that we started ???
        I wrote that I hope it will be so ... hope dies last!
        And about the fact that a lot of things are NECESSARY, I wrote so many times that I did not repeat myself, over and over again.
      3. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 3 March 2021 13: 04
        -9
        "... So far, only the conditions have been created for successful theft, incompetence and different uryakalok.
        ..."
        - Mustache is gone, Chief !!!
        The plaster is removed, the client leaves ...
        - AAAAaaaaaa .....
        eight-))))

        "... Young people are born with a lot of ideas, but to implement, check without hemorrhoids on your head, this is not ..."
        - well, you know, dear -
        If that "youth" "without hemorrhoids" CANNOT check anything, then "how many wolf do not feed" ...
        8-))
        - There was once such a magazine - "YoungTechnik". And there was a section "UT Patents". And in fact, sometimes young readers offered quite patentable ideas. But then the editors had to add another section; "Do not grant patents" ...
        8-))
        So that's it. Once one "promising youth" sent such an "idea" to the editorial office of UT (not otherwise than hoping to test it "without hemorrhoids"). I quote:

        - Dear editors, what if we attach a PHOTOCELL to a mousetrap? !!! - AND?! (Kolya)
        Why "dear edition" in the section "Do not issue patents!" - posted her answer.
        - YES !, yes - dear Kolya. And yet - CAMERA !!!
        And then we will not only find out - "HOW MANY MICE DO WE HAVE IN THE HOUSE",
        but - and "WHAT ARE THEIR CUTS".
        eight-))))

        - So, if especially "without hemorrhoids" - then "idea" - "idea" - it, you know, "luрus est" -
        as the Romans once said ...
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 3 March 2021 15: 24
          0
          There are bad ideas and there are bad ideas that grew up at IBM, no one believed them either.
          1. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 4 March 2021 12: 51
            0
            "... there are also bad ideas that grew at IBM, no one believed them either
            ..."
            - That I have always believed that IBM is quite capable of giving birth and growing REALLY BAD ideas.
            A normal company should be able to do everything.
            8-))
        2. cmax
          cmax 3 March 2021 23: 56
          0
          Quote: tikhonov66
          "... So far, only the conditions have been created for successful theft, incompetence and different uryakalok.
          ..."
          - Mustache is gone, Chief !!!
          The plaster is removed, the client leaves ...
          - AAAAaaaaaa .....
          eight-))))

          "... Young people are born with a lot of ideas, but to implement, check without hemorrhoids on your head, this is not ..."
          - well, you know, dear -
          If that "youth" "without hemorrhoids" CANNOT check anything, then "how many wolf do not feed" ...
          8-))
          - There was once such a magazine - "YoungTechnik". And there was a section "UT Patents". And in fact, sometimes young readers offered quite patentable ideas. But then the editors had to add another section; "Do not grant patents" ...
          8-))
          So that's it. Once one "promising youth" sent such an "idea" to the editorial office of UT (not otherwise than hoping to test it "without hemorrhoids"). I quote:

          - Dear editors, what if we attach a PHOTOCELL to a mousetrap? !!! - AND?! (Kolya)
          Why "dear edition" in the section "Do not issue patents!" - posted her answer.
          - YES !, yes - dear Kolya. And yet - CAMERA !!!
          And then we will not only find out - "HOW MANY MICE DO WE HAVE IN THE HOUSE",
          but - and "WHAT ARE THEIR CUTS".
          eight-))))

          - So, if especially "without hemorrhoids" - then "idea" - "idea" - it, you know, "luрus est" -
          as the Romans once said ...

          Dear, the person wrote taking into account his life experience, we are not snotty boys here. From my life experience, I agree with him in many ways. Once again - he expressed his opinion. And personally, lately, I understand less and less such optimists in life (although you may be some kind of boss and your whole life is in chocolate) like you. Life shows that there is no smell of opimism now.
          1. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 4 March 2021 12: 29
            0
            "... Dear, the person wrote taking into account his life experience,
            ..."
            - well - duc and I also wrote from my life experience ...
            And at the same time - he expressed his opinion.
            And "life experience" - he, you know, - everyone has DIFFERENT.
            As they say - everyone hurts himself - strictly individually ...

            - but the experience of "hemorrhoid" prototyping - "youth" must have one thing.
            Bo without "hemorrhoid" prototyping - it never works - neither for us, nor for the "bourgeois".
            - Well ... - my life experience is ...
            8-))
            1. cmax
              cmax 4 March 2021 12: 38
              +1
              Quote: tikhonov66
              "... Dear, the person wrote taking into account his life experience,
              ..."
              - well - duc and I also wrote from my life experience ...
              And at the same time - he expressed his opinion.
              And "life experience" - he, you know, - everyone has DIFFERENT.
              As they say - everyone hurts himself - strictly individually ...

              - but the experience of "hemorrhoid" prototyping - "youth" must have one thing.
              Bo without "hemorrhoid" prototyping - it never works - neither for us, nor for the "bourgeois".
              - Well ... - my life experience is ...
              8-))

              I understand that everything is OK. The average salary in the country is fucking big, pensions have grown, that pensioners don't know what to spend, they go to governors at the behest of their hearts, the heads of Rosneft and Gazprom and members of the supervisory boards of these organizations beg the Ministry of Finance to take extra money from their salaries from them, and bonuses for promotions are immediately asked to transfer to the construction of schools, kindergartens and clinics. The oligarchs are also on the alert, everyone rushed to sell their yachts, they want to build the first Russian aircraft carrier. But seriously .. Moscow, Lianozovo, a military factory on the road, look what salaries entice specialists and young people to work at the enterprise ..... From 20000 rubles. Fuck how much is true! As they said in Odessa ... don't hurt me !!!
          2. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 4 March 2021 12: 42
            0
            "... And personally, lately, I understand less and less such optimists in life (although you may be some kind of boss and your whole life is in chocolate) like you. Life shows that there is no smell of opimism now. ..."

            - And it is also possible - and that although by education I am an engineer-physicist of semiconductor production, but "in life" a former developer of a domestic CAD system and now - a programmer-circuit engineer-electronics engineer-installer-designer, a specialist in the development and debugging / testing of software and hardware systems and human-machine interfaces in the position of SNS.
            - And zhist - it is not that it was completely "in chocolate" - however, work hard to find employers who are solvent - and then life will show you the longed-for "smell of optimism" ...
            8-))
            1. cmax
              cmax 4 March 2021 13: 32
              0
              Quote: tikhonov66
              "... And personally, lately, I understand less and less such optimists in life (although you may be some kind of boss and your whole life is in chocolate) like you. Life shows that there is no smell of opimism now. ..."

              - And it is also possible - and that although by education I am an engineer-physicist of semiconductor production, but "in life" a former developer of a domestic CAD system and now - a programmer-circuit engineer-electronics engineer-installer-designer, a specialist in the development and debugging / testing of software and hardware systems and human-machine interfaces in the position of SNS.
              - And zhist - it is not that it was completely "in chocolate" - however, work hard to find employers who are solvent - and then life will show you the longed-for "smell of optimism" ...
              8-))

              Almost, as the unforgettable Gorbachev said, they came to a consensus. Good luck and a normal life!
      4. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 3 March 2021 13: 11
        +4
        The Kronstadt group of companies is a product of the Transas company from the 90s. Transas was created by 10 people from St. swimming. Now there is a recruitment in many directions and very interesting for young people. You can't turn a private trader, the company's security service will quickly wind up the inside of a thief on the plane of the UAV. And the Sukhoi Design Bureau does the Hunter. They started stealing less in the direction of the UAV and everything went uphill.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 3 March 2021 17: 06
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          And the Sukhoi Design Bureau does the Hunter.

          which, in turn, on the S-70 uses the developments on the MiG "Skat" killed by Pagasyan, who was at that time the head of the USC ...
        2. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 4 March 2021 12: 47
          +1
          "... They began to steal less in the direction of the UAV
          ..."
          - and not only there.
          In the last few years - well, very significant progress in the field of domestic semiconductor packaging. Especially special resistant. It is quite possible to make worthwhile things EXCLUSIVELY from DOMESTIC components. The people are working, they are working ...
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 4 March 2021 12: 51
            0
            For me, it's a dark forest, I've heard about success. But the characteristics of the electronics do not tell me anything. And so it’s very good I think that it’s not pennies that move.
      5. Viktor Afanasev
        Viktor Afanasev 3 March 2021 19: 30
        +2
        And again, a domestic independent base for the production of machine tools is needed, equipment for, in turn, the production of components.
        Unfortunately, we still have a part of what is needed in rocketry and aircraft construction, either purchased abroad or produced on foreign-made machine tools. And in the presence of a sanctions policy of countries unfriendly to us, this may turn out to be critical ...
    2. sleeve
      sleeve 3 March 2021 12: 48
      +8
      In general, as soon as you see such an article from China, you conclude that everything is not so bad and the vector is correct. Well, or something went wrong with Chinese friends again. So it's a good and necessary tradition to write such articles ...
      1. midivan
        midivan 3 March 2021 13: 17
        -5
        Quote: sleeve
        In general, as soon as you see such an article from China, you conclude

        That friendship is ending and the Chinese are slowly beginning to convince them that we are not friends-allies at all, but backward neighbors. Fledged, emboldened, and if not for India and the states, then we probably already dug trenches. As soon as they play with the states, we will feel all the love of China. Yes, we have nuclear weapons, but there are so many of them that they only need to overcome their fear of it, and as soon as there are headlines like "It is possible to survive in a nuclear war," we should turn on the stopwatch. Yes, and they show in the news, and I have the Ministry of Emergencies nearby, they try sirens (alarming), and before their "howls" were, but the news did not say that it was supposedly to alert the emergency situation - why would it? My paranoia? I would agree, but in those years, death was no longer terrible ...
        1. sleeve
          sleeve 3 March 2021 13: 28
          +1
          I agree completely. The "neighbor" question has not gone away and will not go away. The ideology of the "celestial center of the world" was not abolished by either Chiang Kai-shek, or Mao, or 70 years of Chinese socialism. Moreover, such little articles - bricks in the very wall with which they are trying to fence themselves off from their fear, slightly forget the history. What to do - "global politician" ....
    3. RealPilot
      RealPilot 3 March 2021 14: 18
      +9
      And here are the adherents of the "Bayraktar sect" from China ... belay

      We are developing our drones, the USSR was a pioneer in this area, let's remember the Tu-143 "Flight", which first flew in 1970! Well, Tu-141, Tu-142 ...


      But what China was like in the 70s:


      The commercial success of civil drone manufacturers such as DJI, Parrot and some other lesser known (Teeggi, Visuo, etc.) is turning their heads. But this is not all for war, they are extremely vulnerable to interference and electronic warfare.
      And such "cameras" lose the signal from the remote control and GPS very well - especially in the city, I checked it myself!

      Terrorism in peacetime and in low-intensity conflicts is their limit. This is what the practice of using in the Donbass for dropping grenades on the heads of militias and, mutually, the Armed Forces of Ukraine shows.

      Of course, China also has military drones. And probably pretty good ones.
      But we also have them, while the development continues. Our defense industry does not make civilian toys that collect likes on the Internet ... And among my master's students in Baumank there were those who write algorithms for controlling the "swarm". I taught them a different subject, but fact is fact.
      1. Maksim_ms
        Maksim_ms 5 March 2021 12: 48
        +1
        You can also add Buran!

        BUT, the fact that in the 70s we had drones does not mean that we are in the lead, China could make up a lot during this time. Yes, engines and electronics are still lagging behind, but they are moving forward quickly.
  2. denplot
    denplot 3 March 2021 11: 30
    -2
    It's okay, we always harness for a long time, but we drive very fast! They will also catch up with us in this area.
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 3 March 2021 11: 46
      -6
      Quote: denplot
      we harness it for a long time, but we go very fast!

      A typical example is Roskosmos. In the USSR "harnessed", now Rogozin dangled his legs and "drives", in his words, very quickly. Well, there is nothing to say about the aviation industry - the debts are monstrous, the production is awful, but what kind of leader is Serdyukov himself. Probably, he carries the fruits of "optimization" under Vasilyeva's bed.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 3 March 2021 12: 51
        +4
        Quote: astepanov
        A typical example is

        "Rusty gas station" they said. "The economy is torn to shreds," they said. "These are all cartoons," they said. And then this "gas station without an economy", under the cover of the "Calibers" falling on the heads of the barmaley, who had flown a thousand kilometers and in which very few people also believed, adopted these "cartoons" into service.
        Is this a typical example or not?
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 3 March 2021 13: 19
          +4
          So even the mega container fleet MERSK is using the hardware and software of Made in Russia, the Transas company in novigation. And not only them. Transas is the "parent" of the Kronstadt Design Bureau. So private traders still can support the country's defense.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 3 March 2021 13: 22
            -4
            Quote: tralflot1832
            made in Russia

            Correctly made in))))
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 3 March 2021 13: 08
        +5
        "... Well, there is nothing to say about the aviation industry - the debts are monstrous,
        ..."
        - it's you just neither about Musk's debts, nor about how he "dangled his legs" - you don't know anything ...
        8-))
      3. businessv
        businessv 3 March 2021 13: 26
        -1
        Quote: astepanov
        but what kind of leader is Serdyukov himself. Probably, he carries the fruits of "optimization" under Vasilyeva's bed.

        We are constantly talking about it, but things are still there! Is it really impossible to remove from power eccentrics (s) who are proven thieves ?! This leapfrog is a merry-go-round of thieving, illiterate, but devoted people in the government no longer even annoys, but amuses!
      4. El Chuvachino
        El Chuvachino 3 March 2021 13: 51
        +2
        Listen to you, so Rogozin has been guilty of simple astronautics over the past 30 years, or even more. And Serdyukov, I suppose, at the time of the collapse, threw down the domestic aviation industry.
      5. GTYCBJYTH2021
        GTYCBJYTH2021 3 March 2021 18: 41
        -1
        Quote: astepanov
        Quote: denplot
        we harness it for a long time, but we go very fast!

        A typical example is Roskosmos. In the USSR "harnessed", now Rogozin dangled his legs and "drives", in his words, very quickly. Well, there is nothing to say about the aviation industry - the debts are monstrous, the production is awful, but what kind of leader is Serdyukov himself. Probably, he carries the fruits of "optimization" under Vasilyeva's bed.

        good good good drinks
  3. FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 3 March 2021 11: 33
    +4
    In the Chinese media: Russia, which is lagging behind in the field of UAVs, is unlikely to be able to “recoup”

    It is worth thinking about this, in China there was and is a very tough censorship in the media, much harsher than in any "democratic" country. If such articles are published, then the authorities of the Celestial Empire approve of all this. But if they approve of it, then ... it's worth considering.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 3 March 2021 11: 40
      +6
      Not true. There is censorship in relation to the party's policy, but no one cares. That same plow is like Yandex Zen - anyone can write any garbage.
      1. FIR FIR
        FIR FIR 3 March 2021 11: 52
        +1
        Quote: Quadro
        Anyone can write any garbage.

        Oh well............
        Some correspondents are sent to labor camps to be "sent to work" for publishing unverified information.
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 3 March 2021 21: 10
          -2
          Quote: FIR FIR
          Quote: Quadro
          Anyone can write any garbage.

          Oh well............
          Some correspondents are sent to labor camps to be "sent to work" for publishing unverified information.

          Is it not destiny to read the message completely? Nobody there sends them to the camps for yellow articles, it's enough to broadcast these stories. Islamist Uyghurs are thrown into the camps and they are right.
      2. Viktor Afanasev
        Viktor Afanasev 3 March 2021 19: 38
        0
        In China, there are a lot of blocked sites on the Internet. I had to use VPN all the time ...
    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 3 March 2021 13: 36
      +5
      "... Russia lagging behind in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles
      ..."
      - actually the FIRST full-fledged "drone" in the WORLD
      - was built in the USSR.
      This is the UNMANNED SPACE (!) Shuttle "Buran". TK was issued ... in 1973 (!!).
      This is 48 (forty eight !!!) years ago - almost 50 ...
      - The first and only space flight "Buran" made on November 15, 1988 in automatic mode (FULLY AUTOMATIC !!!), without a crew on board; it was no longer launched (Buran was designed for 100 space flights [1]: 2).
      - At a given point - I SELF-LEADED FROM ORBIT. I performed aerodynamic braking on my own, I SELF-found the landing strip on the ground.
      - The landing was carried out in the STRONGEST wind (the caps were blown off !!! - and the "mattresses" cancel the flights of their rockets and landing modules - at the slightest breeze!). Buran, approaching the landing, HELDLY determined that due to a tailwind near the ground, it misses the landing strip. Buran INDEPENDENTLY - made a decision to approach the second round. This was completely unexpected for the ground services! Having discovered Buran's maneuver on ground-based radars - they even wanted to blow up Buran - as an uncontrollable object. Then he SELF-adjusted the landing speed, the moment of entering the glide path, the angle of deflection of the fuselage for landing in a crosswind - and he landed INDEPENDENTLY. After braking and stopping on the lane, the deviation from the given position was 3 meters along the lane and 1 meter across. Like this. And that was 33 years ago.
      - this is, you know, "lag" ...
      8-))

      A number of technical solutions obtained during the creation of "Buran" were used in Russian (quite legally) and foreign ("mattress" - all just brazenly STUPID !!!) rocket and space technology.
      - and in the early 80s - all sorts of "Pedators" (the first flight - in 1993 - 5 (FIVE !!) years after the Buran flight) - those mattress toppers - AND DIDN'T even DREAM!
      - and this is MATCH!
      you need to know ...
      1. ultra
        ultra 3 March 2021 19: 27
        0
        He could not go into the second circle, he landed practically across the runway, taking into account the strong side wind.
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        2. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 4 March 2021 13: 09
          +1
          It is impossible to approach "across the strip" in any way ...
          8-))
          On this flight segment, the orbital complex, when descending, was supposed to pass at an altitude of about 16 km along the runway of the airfield in a westerly direction and, having turned 180 degrees, go to the runway with an "eastern approach", practically against the wind. However, about seven minutes after leaving the plasma, "Buran" unexpectedly laid a left bank and, having abruptly changed course, went almost across the axis of the runway. For about two minutes, he made an unpredictable maneuver. I can imagine how you felt then ... - I'm pretty sure none of those responsible for the descent expected this. Andrey Manucharov was in direct contact with me and was silent. Stepan Mikoyan, deputy flight director for landing, and Anatoly Syrov, director of the Moscow experimental design bureau “Mars,” at MCC did not have time to say anything. When the "Buran" changed course and passed at an altitude of about 13 km practically across the landing strip, I looked at the adjacent control panel. There, behind the trajectory control monitor, was Romuald Bonk, one of those responsible for the descent algorithms at the Mars Moscow Design Bureau. He looked unimportant at that moment, probably, and so did I. We just had to wait. - What happened? Something went wrong?
          - The post-flight analysis showed that "Buran" chose the flight along the optimal trajectory of energy extinguishing and taking into account the specific conditions of the descent, including a strong crosswind. It worked as taught! It was not for nothing that they put this knowledge into the "brains" of the on-board computer complex, and they cleaned and debugged these "brains" by labor on ground stands and flying laboratories. Honor and glory to all the participants in this work!
          - At 9 hours 21 minutes the ship began to turn in a given direction and at 9 hours 22 minutes, already at sound flight speed, it entered the design mode.
          At an altitude of about 7 km, an escort aircraft MiG-25, piloted by Magomed Tolboyev, entered the Buran, and we at the MCC and at the airfield began to receive an image of the orbital ship. Flies safe and sound!
          Landing maneuvering begins. Another minute, landing gear release, braking parachutes are fired - and "Buran" freezes in the center of the runway with a deviation from its axis by only three meters! One of the representatives of the Flight Research Institute said: “I sat down like an excellent student! I just can't believe that the landing is unmanned. "
          https://gudok.ru/newspaper/?ID=1005873.

          And I will say: “Burana” is gone, but the experience is not lost. A great team of first-class specialists, mostly young ones, grew up in this work. The charge from it was such that the team did not fall apart to its foundations in difficult years, and this made it possible to create a control system for the Briz-M upper stage right at that time. It was no longer a software system, there was already our own onboard computer, and the blocks that control all the onboard machinery - engines, cutters, adjacent systems of other developers, etc. And we did the ground-based testing and prelaunch preparation of the upper stage.

          Of course, “Breeze” was made to all KB. But a very important role, above all in the creation of the software complex, was played by the people of Buran - people who built and perfected the great work of doing work with the participation of hundreds of experts from dozens of different profiles during the Buran epic. And now the KB, which has proven its viability, has a lot of work ...
          https://topwar.ru/2261-avtomaticheskaya-posadka-burana.html
          1. ultra
            ultra 4 March 2021 13: 38
            0
            About across the strip these are the words of a participant in the event. The article was in Wings of the Motherland.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 3 March 2021 11: 38
    -3
    Well, we do not STEAL like Chinese meat, brazenly, other people's ideas and technologies, we create from scratch! For the Chinese, only Chinese chat - everything else "with the world on a string, - for the Chinese on pseudo-socialism"! !! fool fool
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  6. Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 3 March 2021 11: 42
    -6
    And the Chinese author is unaware that, firstly, drones are weapons of the aggressor, and the Russian military doctrine is defensive, and, secondly, they are weapons against third countries that do not have the means of retaliation. Not air defense (this is to fire a cannon at sparrows), but retaliation.
    And thirdly, we have them.
    1. WHAT IS
      WHAT IS 3 March 2021 11: 51
      +14
      Quote: Artavazdych
      Russian military doctrine defensive

      That is, what happens, we do not need them, we are not going to attack anyone? Then catch up at full steam until the train has not gone very far. This has long been a universal weapon today, both offensive and defensive and whatever, everything. armed conflicts already cannot do without them.
      1. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 3 March 2021 12: 01
        +9
        I wrote that Russian videoconferencing systems have drones. To chase baboons through the desert. A little, but that is what it is. In this direction, work is underway, and there is nothing critical.
        But if in the Russian sky in any conflict someone else's UAVs are found, an adequate response (or rather, it should even be inadequate) in a massive retaliatory strike - with aviation, missile tactical complexes, vacuum bombs - the entire arsenal is in action!
        Well, if they don’t come to their senses ... shaitan-babakh in this case is not excluded.
    2. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 3 March 2021 12: 59
      -8
      secondly, it is a weapon against third countries that have no means of retaliation

      In fact, on the contrary. Air defense is a weapon against third countries that do not have modern means, which, if necessary, will smash any air defense into races or two.
      1. Artavazdych
        Artavazdych 3 March 2021 14: 16
        +1
        So the stealth b-2 shot down by the Serbian C-75 is a bomber from a third country.
        1. Outsider
          Outsider 3 March 2021 18: 46
          +1
          - How long can you grind lying nonsense? The Serbs never shot down a B-2, they shot down one F-117 ...
  7. krops777
    krops777 3 March 2021 11: 43
    +5
    In the competition between manufacturers of unmanned aerial vehicles, the Russian Federation lags far behind.


    I’m wondering how they could compare the performance characteristics of all BLA, if by most parameters this is a secret, and therefore this is another bunch from another Chinese journalist who fancies herself as a mega-expert.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 March 2021 11: 47
    +9
    To be honest, the criticism of Russian weapons in the Chinese media is already annoying. We ourselves know very well about our shortcomings and accept criticism. But it is not for the Chinese comrades to constantly criticize Russian weapons. They themselves steal and steal technology around the world, copy (often not successfully) and at the same time arrogance began to go off scale. They pulled out their aviation and rocketry at the expense of the USSR - Russia. Yes, the Chinese economy has practically overtaken the American one, the military budget is growing every year like mushrooms after a rain, but what did they do exclusively from the design, starting with the cog, to putting into service?
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 3 March 2021 19: 33
      +11
      Quote: rotmistr60
      They themselves steal and steal technology around the world, copy (often not successfully) and at the same time arrogance began to go off scale. They extended their aviation and rocketry at the expense of the USSR - Russia.

      I am very sorry, but the father beat his son not because he stole, but because he was caught. Why don't you want to admit the obvious facts that China is 1-2 economy in the world and it is pointless to argue with this.
      From copy-paste 20 years ago, the Chinese have long since switched to their own developments.
      Take a look at what has escaped a bowl of rice in the teahouse over the past 30 years and compare what happened to us. only without leavened patriotism.
  9. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 3 March 2021 11: 48
    -14%
    UAVs assembled from Israeli components for the Uzga are called Russian ?? and by the way, they began to create a hunter in the MIG design bureau, this was then chopped off by the Sukhovites.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 3 March 2021 11: 56
      +4
      Quote: Alex aircraft
      Are the UAVs assembled from Israeli components for the Uzga called Russian?

      Interesting logic. According to it, it turns out that if the F-35 has 300 kg of Chinese rare earth metals, then it should be called Chinese? ..
      1. Simon schempp
        Simon schempp 3 March 2021 13: 13
        -4
        Interesting logic. According to it, it turns out that if the F-35 has 300 kg of Chinese rare earth metals, then it should be called Chinese? ..

        Your logic is more interesting. Compare ready-made high-tech components that we ourselves do not have enough intelligence to make with metal dug out of the ground.

        (Yes, yes. Write about my flag. If there is nothing to get to the bottom of, you can get to the flag. fellow )
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 3 March 2021 13: 10
      +5
      Quote: Alex aircraft
      UAVs assembled from Israeli components for Uzga called Russian ??

      So why the Turks, collecting their Bayraktars, a significant part of the components for which are purchased "around the world", call them "Turkish" and the "world" agrees with this?
  10. Cockroach Zee
    Cockroach Zee 3 March 2021 11: 53
    +5
    This is normal. With T-14 and Su-57 the same song. At first they yelled that it was shit, then they died down. Now it's not shit, but Russia cannot establish mass production. When the series starts, the troops will come up with something else. We must somehow be complacent.
  11. Hagen
    Hagen 3 March 2021 11: 55
    +3
    In particular, the author believes that the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 in its characteristics is significantly superior to the "Orlan-10" made in the Russian Federation.

    Chinese journalists are no better than some of their colleagues from other countries, as well as from Russia. How can you compare Bayraktar TB-2 with Orlan-10? These are devices of different classes. But with Orion, Bayraktar looks about the same level, and even weaker in terms of payload. In short, he is still a specialist ... laughing You have to be more careful, especially when writing to the public.
  12. Israel
    Israel 3 March 2021 12: 04
    -4
    Russia's lagging behind in the component base, especially in microelectronics, here in the next 20 years at least the situation will not change and we will have to live with it.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 March 2021 12: 25
      +2
      Quote: Israel
      Russia's lagging behind in the component base, especially in microelectronics, here in the next 20 years at least the situation will not change and we will have to live with it.

      Where do you get this from? The fact that we don't have cell phones? So they are not produced in many places. laughing
      1. Israel
        Israel 3 March 2021 12: 27
        -2
        What have cell phones to do with it? Although they are also an indicator, cell phones (or smartphones) are primarily about miniaturization, high performance, energy efficiency and reliability. Will Russia be able to make a smartphone on its own component base?
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 3 March 2021 12: 38
          +2
          Quote: Israel
          Will Russia be able to make a smartphone on its own component base?

          Of course he can. From the point of view - to be able. Is it necessary? It will be expensive for the market.
          And military electronics are being made. A complete ban on the use of imported element base has been in effect for a long time.
          1. Israel
            Israel 3 March 2021 12: 49
            -2
            Of course he can.

            No, it will not be able to, there is simply no entire nomenclature.

            It will be expensive for the market. And military electronics are being made

            Well, that's why there will be a lag, Russian electronics will be heavier, with more power consumption, more expensive with worse characteristics. Miracles do not happen, if the "bourgeois" release, for example, a charge / power controller in the hundreds of millions, then they have money to cut even such a component to the "ideal", as a result, it "makes less noise", has a high efficiency, gives less power supply interference, etc. And there are thousands of such “little things”.

            But Russia has high competencies in aviation, jet propulsion, aerodynamics, and so on, and they will take it.
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 3 March 2021 14: 06
              +1
              Quote: Israel
              No, it will not be able to, there is simply no entire nomenclature.

              We have what we need, what we lacked, we have already released it. What sources are you tracking? And I work with these factories.
              1. Israel
                Israel 3 March 2021 17: 19
                0
                What sources are you tracking?

                On reverse engineering, open and not very.

                We have what we need, we have already released what was missing.

                Give them in order, any technique starts with power supply, does Russia have a battery, a power controller, power converters capable of keeping within the dimensions of a modern smartphone. We go further, like in general Russia with SMD-components, they are, but from those that I have seen are insufficient for our task.
                Further, a processor, a modern multi-core with a graphics core is needed, theoretically Baikal BE-M1000 could fit, but it is based on a licensed architecture with a purchased graphics core and is produced in Taiwan, in principle you can close your eyes to this, you never know fabless companies. But it works with DDR4 SDRAM, are there many manufacturers of such memory in Russia? Further, communication modules are there in Russia its own 4G / 5G modems that can fit into the dimensions of a smartphone.

                now here's a problem for you, let's take a fee from Baikal (if I was holding it in my hands)



                find Russian-made components on it and how many of the total
                And I'm not trying to somehow "humiliate" Russia, it's just that microelectronics is such an area in which every year companies starting from Intel invest from hundreds of millions to billions of dollars in R&D, and even if engineers and scientists in Russia are twice as smart and efficient. do not simply have the physical ability to reduce cooling.
                1. Mountain shooter
                  Mountain shooter 3 March 2021 18: 56
                  +2
                  Quote: Israel
                  Give them in order, any technique starts with power supply, does Russia have a battery, a power controller, power converters capable of keeping within the dimensions of a modern smartphone. We go further, as in Russia with SMD components in general, they are, but from those that I saw are insufficient for our task

                  Are we talking about a smartphone or military electronics? Who set this task? To release a Russian smartphone? But digital radio stations produce ... Small-sized. And a lot of things. Radars with AFAR, for example. It seems that all these products simply do not fall into your "orbit" ... And in Russian firms they spend a lot of money on development. But the military spends exactly on what they need. And the products are specific.
                  1. Israel
                    Israel 3 March 2021 20: 29
                    -1
                    I didn’t start talking about smartphones / cell phones.

                    But digital radio stations release ...

                    They produce, with imported components, or moreover, there were facts when frank China was passed off as Russian stations.

                    And in Russian firms they spend a lot of money on development. But the military spends exactly what they need. And the products are specific.

                    So this does not work, the costs need to be recouped, what would the next generation do, this is the problem of Russian military electronics, you can spend money to conduct R&D and start production, but there is no money for further research.

                    Radars with AFAR, for example.

                    If you do not need to shrink much in size, in nutrition, then here Russia has technology.
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                    2. tikhonov66
                      tikhonov66 4 March 2021 13: 43
                      0
                      "... you can spend money to conduct R&D and start production, but there is no money for further research.
                      Radars with AFAR, for example. ... "

                      - in one old song "about Kostya the sailor" - the main character sang:
                      "I won't tell you FOR ALL ODESSA.
                      All Odessa is VERY GREAT ... "

                      So - Russia, I dare to remind you - it is NOT LESS THAN ODESSA ...
                      8-))
                      But this fact - for some reason does not prevent you from speaking "FOR ALL RUSSIA" ...
                      - and if your research institute covered this topic, it does not mean at all that there is no such topic in the research institute - well, for example, next to yours ...
                      8-))

                      "... If you do not need to shrink much in size, in nutrition, then here Russia has technology.
                      ..."
                      - in size - they will be "squeezed" in Taiwan - in TSMC ...
                      8-))

                      And they will "squeeze" - not only "us", but also the same IBM, Texas Instruments - and (scary to say) Apple ...
                      Another thing is that in Russia, no one (of those whom I know 8-) wants to spend money on the system-on-a-chip (SOC) technology, because it is so expensive (there you will have to acquire a LOT of different "intellectual property") that it pays off only for HUGE editions of the designed product - for example, chips for the same USB modems, or USB Bluetuth devices. And the main problem there, besides the cost of the software, is the process of testing this crazy-complex "system" and the amount of data that needs to be analyzed. The volume, and most importantly the TIME of testing - you know, it grows almost exponentially with the size of the project ... And when manufacturing and, most importantly, when modeling a project of such a system, it is very expensive and unpleasant ...
                      8-)
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                    5. tikhonov66
                      tikhonov66 4 March 2021 14: 05
                      0
                      "... They are producing, with imported components, or more than that, there were facts when an outspoken China was passed off as Russian stations.
                      ..."
                      I've heard of this. Experiencing.
                      There is a soldier, there is a Chinese station on it. Is there a connection :? - THERE IS.
                      Team - LIE! Is there a connection? - NO COMMUNICATION.
                      ...
                      - and it seems to me that for such tricks someone "at the top of Moscow" has already fired from his post ...
                      .
                      On this occasion, I recall such a story of bygone days.
                      - I sold the USSR to some desert country (where there is a lot of sand)
                      Soviet MILITARY radio stations of the P108 type. Well - such "knapsack", if someone does not know or does not remember. And then Japanese competitors appeared - they brought something pocket-hand - which, it seems, "can" do the same thing as our P108. The Arabs began to doubt - well, like "and not urak-whether I am" ...
                      - Then our trade representative says to the Japanese: Can I hold your station in my hands? Yes. please ... The trade representative turns the Japanese station in his hands and suddenly says - and you can DROP it ?! The Japanese - already changed in his face, rushed to take away his station. And our trade representative removes the P108 from the truck platform - and "off the shoulder" - it on the sand - WHAT! Then he picks it up - and again WHORE, WHORE !! Raises it ... again ... turns it on ... - and EVERYTHING WORKS !!!
                      - The Arabs acquired the Soviet P108.
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        4. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 3 March 2021 13: 56
          +3
          “... Will Russia be able to make a smartphone on its own component base?
          ..."
          - but will Russia be able to make a RADIATION-RESISTANT smartphone with a probability of failure of 0.01% for the entire service life ...
          - Well ... let's say not quite a smartphone - but it CAN!
          And moreover, it will be able not only to MAKE, but also to DELIVER that "smartphone" to ANY POINT of the planet ... and, moreover, along a NON-BALLISTIC (ie, unpredictable and non-intercepted) trajectory ...
          - and "smartphones" - let the huavei make them ...
          8-))

          Oh, by the way ... I don't know how-there in "G5" ...
          And in "G4" - there is a lot of Russian algorithms / patents built / applied.
          And the basic software - it is also a lot written by Russian programmers. For its subsequent adaptation to a specific gland by the Chinese team (under the direction of Dr. WenTong).
          8-)))
          1. Israel
            Israel 3 March 2021 20: 31
            -1
            - but will Russia be able to make a RADIATION-RESISTANT smartphone with a probability of failure of 0.01% for the entire service life ...

            There was a scandal in Russia when, if I'm not mistaken, Rroskosmos's managers ordered microcircuits in Taiwan without the necessary radio resistance for civilian use, but put them into space technology.
  13. Paldiski
    Paldiski 3 March 2021 12: 05
    +2
    Oh, this "yellow" press ...
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 3 March 2021 13: 14
      +3
      Well ... we are "rolling"! Now the former "younger underdeveloped brothers" talk down to Russians!
  14. kit88
    kit88 3 March 2021 12: 06
    +11
    Like this. Have grown on your own head. Now the Chinese says that we (WE!) DO NOT ENOUGH EXPERIENCE in creating an aircraft.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 March 2021 13: 28
      -4
      Quote: kit88
      Like this. Have grown on your own head. Now the Chinese says that we (WE!) DO NOT ENOUGH EXPERIENCE in creating an aircraft.

      From the Internet, "why is Russia always on TV comparing with Ukraine? Why not compare with China, one country started with a bucket of rice, the second with space, aircraft construction, etc., why China today in the end has everything, and Russia with a bucket of oil."
      1. GTYCBJYTH2021
        GTYCBJYTH2021 3 March 2021 18: 56
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: kit88
        Like this. Have grown on your own head. Now the Chinese says that we (WE!) DO NOT ENOUGH EXPERIENCE in creating an aircraft.

        From the Internet, "why is Russia always on TV comparing with Ukraine? Why not compare with China, one country started with a bucket of rice, the second with space, aircraft construction, etc., why China today in the end has everything, and Russia with a bucket of oil."

        good good good drinks hi
      2. Sergey Kulikov_3
        Sergey Kulikov_3 4 March 2021 09: 55
        0
        So, it seems that all 15 republics were doing space, aircraft, etc.? Russia alone is now working and coping quite well, not everything is smooth, but not so critical, but where are the missiles and planes of the other 14 republics !?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 4 March 2021 10: 17
          -1
          Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
          So it seems that all 15 republics have been making space, aircraft, etc.? Russia alone is now working and coping quite well

          There are fewer rocket launches every year, now we are in third place.
          Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
          and where are the missiles and aircraft of the other 14 republics !?

          They do not need them, why does Tajikistan need space?
      3. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 4 March 2021 15: 11
        0
        "... why ... Russia with a bucket of oil.
        ..."
        - I answer - on One Two!
        1) because that "oil bucket" - it is in Russia - IS. And by the way - in the USA - there is also a small bucket there. And in the USA - this "little bucket" - is not at all shy ... 8-))
        2) Revenue from the Russian "oil bucket" is already less than 30% of the RF budget
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 4 March 2021 15: 36
          -3
          Quote: tikhonov66
          The proceeds from the Russian "bucket of oil" are already less than 30% of the budget of the Russian Federation

          Do you know why? The price of oil fell, and therefore the inflow of dollars fell.
          By the way, what about gas revenues?
  15. spravochnik
    spravochnik 3 March 2021 12: 22
    0
    "After all, in his opinion, she has not yet gained enough experience to create the most perfect drone in the world, although it looks beautiful."
    Is it okay that Russia has had experience since the days of the USSR, when it was, along with Israel, ahead of the rest of the world?
  16. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 3 March 2021 12: 27
    +1
    The Chinese are still analysts. I'm just wondering if they soothe themselves or prepare the ground for buying, for example, Turkish UAVs?
  17. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 3 March 2021 12: 36
    +2
    This Chinese author is also competent in unmanned aircraft as I am in the Spanish space program.
    Compare bayraktar and eagle 10, I don't even know. Or does he think the Turkish drone is so punchy?
  18. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 3 March 2021 12: 36
    +3
    The author would better tell what is there with the engine for the newest Chinese fighter))) With Motor Sich broken off) Whose cow would moan.
  19. Stena
    Stena 3 March 2021 12: 40
    -2
    Russia does not have effective attack drones, and Russian-made reconnaissance UAVs have not yet proven themselves very well.

    Yes Yes. Let them continue to monitor.
    From the heading "I look into the book - I see a fig". Well done, our counterintelligence officers. They completely misinformed potential partners.
  20. Klingon
    Klingon 3 March 2021 12: 58
    +2
    the main thing is that the Chinese comrades do not forget that their super super J-20 flies only thanks to the AL-31 engines. And the rest is easy wassat
  21. Raven 95
    Raven 95 3 March 2021 13: 11
    +7
    Comrades Chinese!
    You wouldn't teach dad to love mom.
    1. rjpthju
      rjpthju 3 March 2021 15: 06
      0
      Judging by the population ... you could have taught ...
  22. RUSS
    RUSS 3 March 2021 13: 23
    -8
    Quote: Thrifty
    Well, we do not STEAL like Chinese meat, brazenly, other people's ideas and technologies, we create from scratch!

    Well, yes, well, yes))) are you talking about the Union, where everything from the electric shaver to the car was copied from the west.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 3 March 2021 14: 06
      +4
      Well, stop lying already, you have incontinence, so the road is a tablecloth.
  23. JD1979
    JD1979 3 March 2021 13: 32
    -3
    The Chinese author, apparently, has not heard anything about successful strikes with the help of shock drones of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria.

    Apparently not. But if you compare with what the Turkish UAVs have done in Armenia, it is better to keep quiet modestly.
    In particular, the author believes that the Turkish Bayraktar TB2 in its characteristics is significantly superior to the "Orlan-10" made in the Russian Federation.

    Well, yes, it is superior in everything. These are generally different classes. And to compare them .... do not be friends with logic.
    According to the released data ....

    Well, then, as usual, to create a volume of text, the performance characteristics are recalculated 100500 times.
  24. Bez 310
    Bez 310 3 March 2021 13: 36
    -5
    The Chinese are absolutely right.
    Despite the fact that we rushed headlong
    come up with various UAVs, instead of
    focus only on a few, in the troops
    we are "toy" UAVs, and there will be no breakthrough.
    Well, and about the main thing - it's bad with us with space communications,
    therefore all sorts of options are invented, but they
    so naive that it's a shame to say.
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    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 4 March 2021 15: 24
      0
      "... Despite the fact that we, headlong, rushed
      come up with various UAVs, instead of
      focus only on a few
      ..."
      - THIS IS ABOUT WHAT? !!!
      Let me tell you that "we" were just "focused on some"
      but not at all on different UAVs ...
      8-)))
      - mmlyn well, just some id-diootism ...
      8 - ((

      "... Well, and about the main thing - it's bad with us with space communications,
      therefore all sorts of options are invented, but they
      so naive that it's a shame to say.
      ..."
      - uh ...
      - and, excuse me, if you please, EXPLAIN - what does "bad" mean ?!
      8-))
      - as far as I know - Vladimir Vladimirovich is the only world leader - EVERYWHERE (around the world) - flies on a Russian plane, with Russian communication equipment - and his negotiations with the Motherland - NOBODY LISTENS - unlike the negotiations of not only gay European leaders, but even Biden's negotiations (with Poroshenko).
      8-)))
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 4 March 2021 16: 57
        +1
        Quote: tikhonov66
        THIS IS ABOUT WHAT?

        What is it with you?
        Have you read the "newspapers"?
        Sometimes ...
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 March 2021 14: 04
    -1
    We will make drones, but you will make horseradish engines for aircraft.
  26. APASUS
    APASUS 3 March 2021 14: 07
    0
    Each sandpiper praises its swamp!
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 March 2021 14: 07
    +1
    At the same time, the author suggested that Russia, which is lagging behind in the field of unmanned aerial vehicles, can hardly "recoup" at the expense of the "Okhotnik" UAV. After all, in his opinion, she has not yet gained enough experience in order to create the most perfect drone in the world, although it looks beautiful. An important question: Russia should recoup with whom and in front of whom? ...... The author does not understand at all what he is carrying. laughing
  28. RUSS
    RUSS 3 March 2021 14: 10
    -9
    At the end of the 80s, no one could even think about the collapse of the USSR, and then 91 came. Now there are regions that can declare sovereignty at the first nimble: Tatarstan, Chechnya, Tyva, Yakutia.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 3 March 2021 22: 15
      +1
      Do you have specific data on the desire to obtain sovereignty of these republics.?
  29. rjpthju
    rjpthju 3 March 2021 15: 04
    +2
    So we even destroyed the aircraft modeling sport with prohibitive measures. Earlier, in Soviet times, our model aircraft were among the best in the world. Practically in all the palaces of the pioneers there were circles of aircraft modelers, many aircraft designers began their journey from there.
  30. Irbiz123
    Irbiz123 3 March 2021 16: 30
    +1
    The good news is that this topic is seriously taken up in the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation. And the results will be. Something, as always, will drink, but they will do it.
    1. Alexey from Perm
      Alexey from Perm 3 March 2021 20: 12
      -1
      the legend is fresh, but I can't believe it at all
  31. Adimius38
    Adimius38 3 March 2021 18: 17
    -2
    the lag is almost 30 years and with such a "shock" pace we will definitely go far ...
  32. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 3 March 2021 20: 11
    0
    the author of the article or or pretends to be ...
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 March 2021 20: 42
    +1
    I will reveal a secret, drones were made in the USSR when Ketai comrades with slingshots shot sparrows laughing
  34. Evgeny Seleznev
    Evgeny Seleznev 3 March 2021 21: 37
    -2
    While this is reliable information. We have a lot of soap and foam, and the exhaust is weak.
  35. 123456789
    123456789 3 March 2021 23: 23
    0
    Now it is obvious to everyone why Erdogan bought the S-400
  36. vin605na
    vin605na April 3 2021 22: 13
    0
    And who actually confirmed the Chinese words, Ukrainians, Saxons, sex,? And what do we have, as in that riddle, is full of "... ass cucumbers ...." on sofas, which everything ... everyone knows about defense industry, defense industry, research institute, research and development, but damn a vigorous cow to hell with something God didn't give ....... and tears his ass, from excess ........ in lack of substance, .... cerebral .Well, waste ... pour .............
  37. Evgeny Seleznev
    Evgeny Seleznev April 8 2021 22: 07
    0
    There are very few countries in the world capable of producing unmanned vehicles of the level of the American MQ-9 Reaper. Fact. The presence and production of UAVs such as MALE, HALI in Russia is not really available. And the woodwallows haven’t entered the troops yet.
  38. coramba
    coramba 25 May 2021 10: 15
    +1
    This world thief would be silent about Russia's lagging behind! Let's make up and do the best!