"This is just the beginning": the United States and the European Union imposed sanctions against Russia in the "Navalny case"

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"This is just the beginning": the United States and the European Union imposed sanctions against Russia in the "Navalny case"

The United States, along with the EU, imposed sanctions against Russia in the Navalny case. Officials allegedly involved "in the persecution" of the Russian oppositionist, as well as 14 organizations that allegedly produce "chemical and biological weapon".

Four Russian officials were included in the EU sanctions list. They are banned from entering the European Union and their bank accounts (if any) are frozen. The United States imposed sanctions against seven officials.



Both lists included Prosecutor General Igor Krasnov and Director of the Federal Penitentiary Service Alexander Kalashnikov. In addition to them, sanctions were imposed against the head of the TFR Alexander Bastrykin and the director of the Russian Guard Viktor Zolotov (European Union), the first deputy head of the presidential administration Sergei Kiriyenko, the director of the FSB Alexander Bortnikov, deputy defense ministers Alexei Krivoruchko and Pavel Popov and the head of the Russian president's internal policy department Andrei Yarin (USA ).

The set of punishments is standard - a ban on entry, freezing of accounts (if any), a ban on US citizens from doing business with them.

As part of a strong response to the poisoning and imprisonment of opposition leader Alexei Navalny, the Finance Ministry is imposing sanctions on seven high-ranking Russian government officials

- said the US administration, adding that this is "just the beginning."

Washington demanded an "urgent" release of Navalny.

The United States also imposed sanctions on three Russian research institutes, accusing them of "facilitating the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction or their delivery method, or creating the risk of such assistance."

The package of sanctions imposed by the United States also includes a ban on US financial institutions from providing Russia with loans and any other financial assistance except urgent humanitarian aid. A ban is introduced on the supply of weapons to Russia and the financing of Russian military programs.

The Russian Foreign Ministry has already reacted to the imposed sanctions, saying that a response will follow shortly. According to the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, the answer will not necessarily be symmetrical.

We will react on the basis of the principle of reciprocity, not necessarily symmetrically

- she said.
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  1. nnm
    +26
    3 March 2021 08: 18
    We will react on the basis of the principle of reciprocity, not necessarily symmetrically

    In other words, as usual - NONE.
    The concern is expressed, but there is not enough courage for more ...
    By the way, how are things going with the promised high-profile lawsuits against the United States regarding the arrest of our diplomatic property?
    And with the arrest on the territory of third countries and the long-term conviction of Russian citizens?
    Yes, there are many such questions, but the result is one - another portion of concern.
    1. +3
      3 March 2021 08: 22
      Quote: nnm
      and the result is one - another portion of concern.

      And what else can they say ??? the main thing is not touching the withdrawn capitals ...
      1. +7
        3 March 2021 08: 26
        “The next sanctions of the collective West against Russia will make our country only stronger,” a statement from the State Duma made yesterday. sad

        Even one confirmation that the situation suits everyone.

        1. -4
          3 March 2021 08: 27
          Quote: dorz
          Even one confirmation that the situation suits everyone.

          The main thing is to hang up the losses on someone and stay with the bubble.
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            1. -2
              3 March 2021 09: 17
              Quote: military_cat
              New US sanctions are really bad.

              It depends..
              Quote: military_cat
              it could touch on a bunch of industry-critical software

              This time ... and that the effective haven’t created their own ???? can’t be like that. The market solves this at once.
              1. +17
                3 March 2021 10: 37
                These sanctions are very good.
                Top officials cannot transfer assets from Russia.

                It should be so.
                Do you want to serve Russia? - serve!
                Nishtyakov and so on the most do not want every official at the federal level.
                And the dough and privileges will be enough for himself and the whole family until the end of his life.
                And all this is according to the law!

                And if you want to steal, then the sanctions get in the way.

                These sanctions are akin to amendments to the Constitution, which prohibit those who have citizenship of another country or a residence permit from holding public office and being elected to the legislature.

                The presence of accounts abroad by law is also not possible.
                The US and the EU have essentially agreed to the requirements of our Constitution.

                And defense industry enterprises need long ago to hammer a bolt on the rules of trade to which Medvedev joined.
                You need to take everything you need yourself.
                However, everyone does this.

                And play in civilization can be negro-homosexuals, Ukrainians, Poles and other anxious.
                1. 0
                  3 March 2021 14: 02
                  Quote: Temples
                  You need to take everything you need yourself.

                  "Friends" - "partners" do not particularly bother looking for reasons to "punish" Russia, but actively invent them themselves. It's time to stop getting off with concerns and promises to answer, and answer!!!
                  1. AUL
                    0
                    3 March 2021 14: 22
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    It's time to stop getting off with concerns and promises to answer, but to answer !!!

                    THAN? request
                    1. -2
                      3 March 2021 14: 24
                      Quote from AUL
                      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                      It's time to stop getting off with concerns and promises to answer, but to answer !!!

                      THAN? request

                      To begin with, counter-sanctions.
                      1. AUL
                        +5
                        3 March 2021 14: 27
                        Arrest Baydon's accounts in the Russian Federation? Ban the sale of high-tech products to them? Block the sale of weapons or technology? Write on all fences "Biden - World Cup about"?
                      2. -8
                        3 March 2021 14: 38
                        Think, Fedya, think! And do not be mischievous! lol
                      3. -2
                        4 March 2021 15: 07
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Think, Fedya, think! And do not be mischievous! lol

                        So you think before you write nonsense about
                        counter-sanctions
                      4. -3
                        4 March 2021 15: 16
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        So you think before you write nonsense

                        I don't know if you are a man or a woman, but rudeness and rudeness do not paint anyone and are simply a sign of extreme bad manners. hi
                      5. -2
                        4 March 2021 16: 33
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        So you think before you write nonsense

                        I don't know if you are a man or a woman, but rudeness and rudeness do not paint anyone and are simply a sign of extreme bad manners. hi

                        Pot calls the kettle black....
                        Well-mannered people do not turn to you to strangers, and competent people, when contacting you, write the letter "v" with a capital letter ... and the dialogue with you is not informative, because you cannot turn your exclamations into thoughts and proposals ...
                      6. +2
                        3 March 2021 20: 42
                        Quote from AUL
                        Arrest Baydon's accounts in the Russian Federation? Ban the sale of high-tech products to them?

                        Doesn't Biden have friends?
                        After all, the US also imposed sanctions on Putin's "FRIENDS".
                        Look at the shareholders of Rusal ... Rosneft ... Avisma ... consider supplying the hostile US with nuclear fuel at the power plant ... Have you ever thought about such opportunities?
                        To supply Iran with modern aircraft and the Bastion air defense missile system ...
                        Create additional complications for the United States in the BV (in Syria, Iraq), in Afghanistan ...
                        And in general - to conduct an offensive foreign policy - to counterattack and hit on the weak points.
                        Close, arrest, fine and reprimand all non-profit organizations in the Russian Federation. smile
                        Nationalize the Central Bank and start an INDEPENDENT monetary policy.
                        Go to foreign trade for rubles (currency swaps).
                        Towards self-financing of the Russian economy.
                        Extract / return all funds from various "reserve funds" and use them to finance your own business. Let the funds WORK at home. And they grow from this as a percentage.
                        And there are many, many other good things you can do.

                        But to answer blow for blow is the lot of a man.
                        Not a slave.
                        And I would very much like to see these MEN'S qualities in the power of the Russian Federation.
                      7. -2
                        4 March 2021 15: 21
                        bayardDoesn't Biden have friends?
                        Each of us has many friends, then what? There are definitely fewer of them than GDP friends hanging around in the West ...
                        Look at the shareholders of Rusal ... Rosneft ... Avisma ...

                        Well, looked further, what? If there are empirical shareholders there, what's next, you want to deprive IK shares, well, they sit there so that the sales markets for Russian luminous and oil will not collapse for them abroad ...
                        Consider supplying a hostile US with nuclear fuel at a power plant

                        This is you talking about the Republic of Belarus and Iran, so it seems, and so on their nuclear power plants, our rods ...
                        To supply Iran with modern aircraft and the Bastion air defense missile system ...

                        Maybe the DPRK is better, it is closer .... we still have the Rubezh BRK at the KTOF and KBF ... and the Su-24 are flying in the SAR ...
                        IRI will gladly accept everything new from the former "Little Shaitan" ...
                        Create additional complications for the United States in the BV (in Syria, Iraq), in Afghanistan ...

                        And get the same in the SAR, Sudan, Armenia and PMR?
                        And there are many, many other good things you can do.

                        I did not see the specifics ... only uryayaya, you funny to her God ...
                      8. 0
                        4 March 2021 20: 26
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Each of us has many friends, then what? There are definitely fewer of them than GDP friends hanging around in the West ...

                        It's great when you have a lot of friends. smile
                        This helps in life.

                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Well, looked further, what? If there are empirical shareholders there, what's next, you want to deprive IK shares, well, they sit there so that the sales markets for Russian luminous and oil will not collapse for them abroad ...

                        And Boeing's conveyors will rise ... and if Europe bails, then Airbus too ... You must have forgotten how at the turn of 2014 - 2015. overseas and in Europe howling about the possibility of stopping the supply of titanium?
                        Of course they can diversify, but how long will it take?
                        How much money?
                        So you can lose markets too.
                        No, you can, of course, not curtail supplies, but ... introduce an excise tax on the export of titanium ... so that the price for it doubles. And they didn't seem to refuse - the conjuncture has changed. And this excise tax will cover losses from sanctions.
                        Have you thought about seizing McDonald's assets? Only for the arrest of our diplomatic property this should have been done.
                        And who are the owners of retail chains?
                        It's also funny with the aluminum markets - do you remember the fuss that arose after the sanctions on Rusal and Deripaska? "Ameriansky Aviation and Automotive Industry is in Danger!"
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Consider supplying a hostile US with nuclear fuel at a power plant

                        This is you talking about the Republic of Belarus and Iran, so it seems, and so on their nuclear power plants, our rods ...

                        But this topic for you seems to be completely "dark".
                        Look at the share of nuclear power in the United States and the list of nuclear fuel suppliers to their nuclear power plants. wink
                        This is a very ... very painful topic for the United States. For about 50% of the nuclear fuel market is occupied by Rosatom. And there is no alternative to such supplies in the world.
                        Simply no !
                        Therefore, even despite the new Cold War and the rampant sanctions, Biden signed a permit for the development of American uranium mines by Rosatom! Why?
                        Because there is SOMEONE else in the WORLD to ensure the processing and delivery of nuclear fuel!
                        Even the new Chinese reactors will operate exclusively on Russian nuclear fuel.
                        And so it is all over the world.
                        And THIS topic for them, in fact, is VERY painful.
                        Why don't we hit?
                        The liberals (and the liberals are in power in the Russian Federation) do not hit back.
                        They endure.
                        And this is very unproductive.
                        But if the intestines were strengthened, but they began to act like a man (and in fact, they seem to be going), then what would become of the US economy if they were at one moment without titanium, aluminum and nuclear fuel?
                        But you can also refuse in heavy oil ... After the sanctions of Venezuela, they have nowhere to take heavy oil ... here Russia helps out ... with a "Ural mixture" ...
                        And if such a booze has gone, then the Central Bank will be nationalized. Or abolish by reviving the Treasury and the State Bank. And imitate the ruble ourselves.
                        This will be more painful.
                        And switch to rubles and national currencies in foreign trade through Swaps. This will both revive trade and balance mutual trade.
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        To supply Iran with modern aircraft and the Bastion air defense missile system ...

                        Maybe the DPRK is better, it is closer .... we still have the Rubezh BRK at the KTOF and KBF ... and the Su-24 are flying in the SAR ...

                        And let them stand and fly, should they be cut into metal? We have enough modern weapons, and export is good.
                        Both planes and missiles.
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        IRI will gladly accept everything new from the former "Little Shaitan" ...

                        You probably missed the news that Iran has requested membership in the Eurasian Union. smile
                        Of course we will sell, and of course we will.
                        With pleasure . Yes
                        But only after that, the US fleet in the Persian Gulf and the adjacent waters will feel uncomfortable, oh, how uncomfortable it will be.
                        And for Russia, access to the Indian Ocean.
                        And together with Iran to pass the Turkish claw extended to Central Asia.
                        And the North-South trade route to India. Yes
                        And maybe we will build the channel.
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Create additional complications for the United States in the BV (in Syria, Iraq), in Afghanistan ...

                        And get the same in the SAR, Sudan, Armenia and PMR?

                        We already have problems there, and we are solving them, but the sworn partner has yet to create problems.
                        What do you think, if the Afghan mujahideen will receive military assistance at the level of American proxies in BV, will the partners have more hemorrhoids?
                        How long will they sit there?
                        Just supplying old Soviet weapons to Afghan patriots?
                        ATGM, mortars, mines, explosives, small arms ... MANPADS, if ISIS suddenly has one?
                        Support Iraqi patriots together (!) With Iran?
                        After all, Iran and I will soon find ourselves in a single Union ...
                        So we will carry out combat coordination.

                        And after all, what is most surprising, the Russian Foreign Ministry, the UN representative, and the RF President have already announced about some of these measures - the measures I have voiced ... and the Duma has been talking about this for a long time.
                        And business will not mind - because their "partners" have pressed them, they are striving to confiscate assets, so they are withdrawing funds to Russian offshores ... and no longer strongly against "Russian revenge".
                        The world is changing .
                        And without any "urya".
                        Moreover, I did not make such sounds.
                      9. 0
                        4 March 2021 21: 46
                        bayardAnd if such a booze has gone, then the Central Bank will be nationalized. Or abolish by reviving the Treasury and the State Bank.

                        You be careful about that. After writing a monograph or article on this topic, "jackets" may come home ....
                        And business will not mind - because their "partners" have pressed them, they are striving to confiscate assets, so they are withdrawing funds to Russian offshores ... and no longer strongly against "Russian revenge".

                        A close-knit "collective" of the Russian bourgeois and the GRU thugs is needed ...
                      10. +1
                        4 March 2021 21: 59
                        Yes, a hundred monographs have already been written and said on this topic. Moreover, Lavrov started talking about this - about "his own SWIFT" and about giving up the dollar.
                        At the moments of maximum complication of relations, mask shows have already come to the Central Bank and organized exercises in the offices ...
                        So the exercises have already taken place, it's time to make decisions.
                        And for us - in Donbass, "jackets" are not scary.
                        Let them come.
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        A close-knit "collective" of the Russian bourgeois and the GRU thugs is needed ...

                        Yes needed.
                        Only he has been like this for a long time.
                    2. +3
                      4 March 2021 02: 03
                      Quote from AUL
                      THAN?
                      arrest reciprocally foreign assets !!!
                      For example, the THEY (USA) at one time, squeezing the same RusAl from Deripaska by sanctions, not only did they get a considerable part of his family's shares (stolen from their country - the USSR, where these industrial productions were created), but they squeezed them out not for the Russian Federation, but for their beholders (foreigners !!) ... Before the lifting of sanctions against RusAl, a supervisory board was created there from foreigners and not Russians, as before (!!!)., for control, and the decisive right of distribution of profits !!!
                      It's time, having imposed sanctions on THIS share of shares (inherited by foreigners !!), return them to the property of their country for example !!!, and expel the imposed foreign board of directors (!)... So fit ?!

                      According to the US Treasury Department at the end of 2018, Oleg Deripaska and his family members owned a 70% stake in En +[15].

                      According to the plan to withdraw En + Group under US sanctions share of Oleg Deripaska's ownership will be reduced to 44,95%, an increase in the package will be prohibited. In addition, the share of shares on which Deripaska will be able to vote will be 35%[16].

                      General Director - Vladimir Kiryukhin [17], COO - Vyacheslav Solomin [18]. Chairman of the Board of Directors - Gregory Barker.

                      January 28, 2019 group was excluded from the sanctions list of the US Treasury after the procedure for updating the board of directors. Instead of seven Russians, independent directors were appointed, whose candidacies were approved by the Department of Foreign Assets Control of the US Treasury. New Independent Directors: Christopher Bancroft Burnham, Carl Hughes, Joan McNaughton, Nicholas Jordan, Igor Lozhevsky, Alexander Chmel and Andrey Sharonov [19].

                      It seems that not only this enterprise is "occupied by foreign watchers" ?! What is not a field for a massive retaliatory strike ?!
                      He built the USSR (!), with its collapse, - grabbed the hucksters...(!), and they do "squeeze out" Foreigners .. ?!!!
                      So for whom did the fathers and grandfathers fight, and for WHOM did they build this industry? !!!
                      1. +2
                        4 March 2021 02: 05
                        stop living in accordance and on demand, with -
                        Quote: Vl Nemchinov
                        Department of Foreign Assets Control of the US Treasury
                        !!!
                2. -2
                  4 March 2021 15: 05
                  Temples (Vladimir) on the rules of trade to which Medvedev joined.

                  What are these rules?
        2. +8
          3 March 2021 09: 02
          "Do not tell our Iskander";
          "Look at yourself," flawed "! Russia does not care about the sanctions" V.R. Soloviev .;
          "The dollar will collapse soon" 2008 M. Leontiev.
          there should be a "very harsh" punishment for calls for sanctions. Appeals for the imposition of sanctions against Russians, which are sent to the US presidential administration, can, he says, be viewed as "an appeal for foreign aid in order to destroy our economy."
          V.V. Volodin
          When you no longer know how to wriggle out.
          1. +2
            3 March 2021 12: 56
            Quote: Civil
            and calls for sanctions should be "very harsh" punishment.
            When you no longer know how to wriggle out.

            what Did you also call for sanctions?
            1. -1
              3 March 2021 13: 06
              Quote: Serg65
              Did you also call for sanctions?

              Who am I ...
        3. +12
          3 March 2021 09: 36
          Quote: dorz
          “The next sanctions of the collective West against Russia will make our country only stronger,” a statement from the State Duma made yesterday.

        4. 0
          3 March 2021 10: 20
          It is called both yours and ours !!! request
        5. 0
          3 March 2021 22: 10
          Dear, what does Rogozin have to do with it, no, I am not defending him, but I hate your manner of translating everything into a negative attitude towards Russia. You know, you probably shtatovskih a spy, I read like you - Russia has handed over another corvette ... in the answer is yes we do shit, and all we have is bad, Russia has done something - do not care, monkey work, you will still find both all obgadit. This is called the lowering of self-esteem in Russian. Forced, imposed by you self. Perhaps you are not Russian. I do not guess.
          The Doors - doors ... Well, you're not Jimmy Morrison.
          1. -1
            4 March 2021 15: 31
            Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
            Dear, what does Rogozin have to do with it, no, I am not defending him, but I hate your manner of translating everything into a negative attitude towards Russia. You know, you probably shtatovskih a spy, I read like you - Russia has handed over another corvette ... in the answer is yes we do shit, and all we have is bad, Russia has done something - do not care, monkey work, you will still find both all obgadit. This is called the lowering of self-esteem in Russian. Forced, imposed by you self. Perhaps you are not Russian. I do not guess.
            The Doors - doors ... Well, you're not Jimmy Morrison.

            You are definitely right. But everything that you have written here can be expressed in one picture ...

            At the expense of shpiens, of course, they do not know why they are fools ... just sometimes evil members of the forum come across here who do not like the statements of kind and gullible members of the forum ...
            1. +1
              4 March 2021 18: 00
              Well, you see, in some ways you and I are united. Not bad already. :)
      2. +1
        3 March 2021 08: 27
        Strange, but why don't they touch what capital and where and who?
        1. nnm
          +4
          3 March 2021 09: 04
          Well, how can you touch those who are actually the conductor of your interests in Russia ...
          1. +2
            4 March 2021 04: 10
            That is, the leadership of Russia, in the interests of the West, returned Crimea to Russia, spoiled the whole game of amers in Syria. Developed a hyper sound, which in fact threw out 400 lard bucks spent by amers on missile defense. This is in the interests of the West, right?
        2. +7
          3 March 2021 09: 24
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Strange, but why don't they touch what capital and where and who?

          These capitals are in foreign banks and work for them, but not for Russia.
          1. +1
            4 March 2021 04: 11
            Specific accounts, names and banks in the studio
            1. -3
              4 March 2021 09: 54
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Specific accounts, names and banks in the studio

              Account numbers and passwords.
              1. +2
                4 March 2021 11: 25
                Except for violent imagination, there is nothing at all?
                1. -3
                  4 March 2021 11: 49
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Except for violent imagination, there is nothing at all?

                  What do you think, where you can find accounts and names of holders of money in foreign banks.
                  1. +2
                    4 March 2021 14: 05
                    Judging by the comments, you know everything. So read out
                2. -1
                  4 March 2021 15: 39
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Except for violent imagination, there is nothing at all?

                  Yes. Therefore, he is higher in rank than you, although he hangs around here two times less than you.
        3. +4
          3 March 2021 12: 58
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Strange

          Romanov, welcome! hi
          It was a sinful thing to think that you left VO ....
          1. 0
            4 March 2021 03: 41
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            where and who is what capital?

            Quote: Serg65
            Romanov, welcome! hi
            It was a sinful thing to think that you left VO ..

            Spring aggravation however! wassat drinks
            1. +3
              4 March 2021 04: 13
              February 23 celebrated laughing Hello Ruslan
          2. +2
            4 March 2021 04: 12
            It's not a sin to leave the communist rally laughing Healthy Sergey hi
      3. +1
        3 March 2021 08: 43
        and what capital was withdrawn by the Kremlin?
        bureaucrats do not keep accounts in the west because the Europeans began to block and confiscate these accounts several years ago.
        1. +8
          3 March 2021 08: 44
          Quote: Dodikson
          bureaucrats do not keep accounts in the west

          Long laughed ...
          1. -14
            3 March 2021 08: 44
            forgot to take a pill?
            1. +5
              3 March 2021 08: 45
              Quote: Dodikson
              forgot to take a pill?

              Dodik: You are a real humorist, congratulations.
              1. -6
                3 March 2021 08: 46
                You too .
                only a humorist can write about the loot in the west after the west began to squeeze this loot that the Kremlin even carried out a financial amnesty so that the west would not completely take the loot.
                1. -5
                  3 March 2021 08: 48
                  Quote: Dodikson
                  that the Kremlin even has a financial amnesty

                  Yes ... yes ... I believe as myself.
                  1. +1
                    3 March 2021 08: 49
                    well, yes, a bunch of articles and news, in all media, everyone lies, and only Apro knows the truth.
                    in the course of the pill, it was not humor
                    1. -7
                      3 March 2021 08: 55
                      Quote: Dodikson
                      on the way to the tablet

                      Dodik, don't be rude.
                      1. +6
                        3 March 2021 08: 58
                        except for rudeness, as I understand it, there are no objections ...
                      2. -7
                        3 March 2021 09: 00
                        What are the objections to the humorist ... laugh further, let's laugh
                      3. 0
                        3 March 2021 09: 02
                        so you tell me again about the stupid bureaucrats who take the grandmothers out to where they are taken from them, and then not only you and I will laugh, there will be a whole shout of laughter
                      4. -4
                        3 March 2021 09: 18
                        Quote: Dodikson
                        , and then not only you and I will laugh

                        In terms of humor, you are special. I will not even strain.
                      5. +9
                        3 March 2021 09: 20
                        The "bureaucrats" are not at all stupid. And personally, of course, they do not output anything. And no one takes really serious sanctions concerning relatives.
                      6. 0
                        3 March 2021 09: 24
                        West will gut all accounts, and bureaucrats and relatives, in general, everyone.
                        remember how Cyprus took 10% of ALL deposits (there emnip only a trifle up to 50 thousand euros did not touch), how the Naglo-Saxons took heaps of accounts if there was no documentary evidence of the legality of these accounts, and how France began to freeze the accounts of bureaucrats from the black list.
                        and now they freeze the accounts of all those who did not like the West.
                        and why then translate to the west, if you can to the east?
                      7. +6
                        3 March 2021 09: 27
                        I would have laughed too if for two years now all over Europe, at least, including Great Britain, they did not refuse to open accounts at the slightest hint of a connection with Russian beneficiaries. Moreover, the existing accounts are closed and they say - get the fuck out of our bank, we don't need problems with the US financial price.
                      8. -4
                        3 March 2021 09: 33
                        Quote: CheeRock
                        I would have laughed too if for two years now all over Europe, at least, including Great Britain, they did not refuse to open accounts at the slightest hint of a connection with Russian beneficiaries.

                        Stirlitz, as never before, was close to failure .... which again speaks of the withdrawal of the dough from the Russian Federation. But I am not worried about the sufferers. They will find a way to attach honestly worked out.
                      9. +1
                        3 March 2021 10: 46
                        whoever hurts, he talks about that, Monsieur Apro constantly writes about officials and theft, it is not difficult to guess that we are dealing with a bureaucrat who was removed from the trough and he is severely outraged by this
                      10. -3
                        3 March 2021 11: 03
                        Dodik, don't judge by yourself ...
                        Quote: Dodikson
                        monsieur

                        Dear, follow the language
                      11. +2
                        3 March 2021 11: 05
                        Judging by you, and by the way, Monsieur is a Russified French appeal to a man.
                        you still have to teach and teach.
                        whatever a liberal, so neither education nor broad-minded
                      12. -1
                        3 March 2021 11: 06
                        Address the Frenchman if you are impolite. You.
                      13. 0
                        3 March 2021 11: 11
                        actually, "apro" is just in the French style
                      14. -3
                        3 March 2021 11: 16
                        Scatter ... stylist.
                      15. 0
                        3 March 2021 15: 39
                        Monsieur, stop talking to the mirror.
                        really, the reason is in the pills
                      16. +1
                        3 March 2021 14: 24
                        Monsieur, at least, does not understand the nuances of working with the export of products from the Russian Federation. In general, I don't care where the oligarchs keep their money, but I see that Russian medium and small businesses have been specifically kicked out of the European financial system. On the other hand, it must be admitted that even Europeans are being dispersed into their national banking jurisdictions.
                      17. +2
                        3 March 2021 14: 19
                        You can talk about anything and convince yourself and others. But for companies that export from the Russian Federation, this is not very fun.
                      18. -2
                        3 March 2021 14: 46
                        For seven years I have been working with the British on investments (stock exchange). Russians are called stupid and rich and are always welcome. What and who is being closed there, what are you talking about? Business is what all this political fuss and dealings like "sanctions" are for ....
                      19. +3
                        3 March 2021 15: 27
                        Exchange - maybe. But try to open an account, for example, in England at HSBC or in any English bank for a company with a Russian beneficiary. They won't even talk to you. I have been working in the export business for 16 years. 3 years ago HSBC closed the account of our English company with more than 20 years of history. The reason is that your beneficiary is connected with the Russian Federation, blame it on your money. For three years, with varying success, we tried to open an account in different European banks for an absolutely clean company with a history of more than two decades, the answer is one: our compliance department believes that your case is not safe, we do not want to risk it. The Swiss branch of the Savings Bank also sent us, they say your turnover is less than $ 80 million a month, go nafig, rogue))).
                  2. +1
                    3 March 2021 11: 07
                    You have to be a complete cryptin so that now you can keep accounts openly abroad. You will sweat to withdraw them from Russia and that it is worse to control. My employer is one of those who translated everything from an offshore company into the Russian Federation. You do not seem to follow what is happening in the financial world, but in addition to sanctions, the Russian Federation itself and financial monitoring as its representative simply clean out offshore after offshore. They require the opening of data and half have already signed contracts. Forgot about the recent scandal with Holland?
                    1. -3
                      3 March 2021 14: 49
                      What does the offshore have to do with it? Work like everyone else and you will be happy. Apparently, your boss is simply afraid for the stolen goods, and the Europeans are not smart enough to earn honestly by competing with them. That's right, it's easier to rob the gullible Russian people. Take care of it!
                      1. +2
                        3 March 2021 15: 30
                        You are too categorical, I have known these people for many years. There is nothing stolen there. It was just that earlier it was more convenient to work with one system and now with another. Because everything has changed dramatically.
                      2. -1
                        4 March 2021 13: 05
                        If I went too far, I apologize ... It just started "earlier" in 2005, when the FSA suppressed insurance. Now under FCA, barkli yukei (residents - Balts) and no offshore. For a long time this scheme hung by a thread ...
                    2. +1
                      3 March 2021 15: 28
                      Absolutely right.
                2. Alf
                  0
                  3 March 2021 10: 37
                  Quote: Dodikson
                  The Kremlin even carried out a financial amnesty so that the West would not completely take this loot.

                  Did it help?
                  1. +1
                    3 March 2021 10: 46
                    yes, many businessmen, and even thieves, returned the loot, because there was an option to lose everything at all
                  2. +7
                    3 March 2021 11: 10
                    10 yards beyond the second stages of the capital amnesty are back .. Decide for yourself whether it is good or bad
                    1. Alf
                      -1
                      3 March 2021 11: 12
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      10 yards beyond the second stages of the capital amnesty are back .. Decide for yourself whether it is good or bad

                      Great. The question is, where did they end up, in Russia (and where did they invest) or in another offshore, but much more secret?
                      1. +3
                        3 March 2021 11: 14
                        This is the amount that was returned through the amnesty to Russia. And now there are no secret offshore companies. Forget
                      2. Alf
                        +1
                        3 March 2021 11: 16
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        This is the amount that was returned through the amnesty to Russia.

                        And where did you invest?
                      3. +2
                        3 March 2021 11: 18
                        For example, we re-registered in the Russian Federation from the Isle of Man if you know what it is. And all assets were transferred to the accounts of our banks. Here's your return.
                      4. Alf
                        -1
                        3 March 2021 11: 26
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        For example, we re-registered

                        So you gave yourself away .. laughing Now I will be proud of my communication with the oligarch.
                        But seriously, I don’t believe in these transfers to Russia, they were not withdrawn for that.
                      5. +1
                        3 March 2021 11: 28
                        Humor appreciated) I mean that now it is a lot where it is happening. Offshores have clamped down on the last years so tightly that there is no point in working there. Our bosses counted everything and returned to the Russian Federation. You shouldn't believe. It’s just one of those news stories that pass unnoticed. And after the start in the 17th year of the CRS or the simple exchange of information, everything in general lost its meaning. Well, or remember. Cyprus not so long ago or Holland just recently and the closure of tax incentives by the Ministry of Finance. And a lot more
                      6. +1
                        3 March 2021 15: 32
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Humor appreciated) I mean that now it is a lot where it is happening. Offshores have clamped down on the last years so tightly that there is no point in working there. Our bosses counted everything and returned to the Russian Federation. You shouldn't believe. It’s just one of those news stories that pass unnoticed. And after the start in the 17th year of the CRS or the simple exchange of information, everything in general lost its meaning. Well, or remember. Cyprus not so long ago or Holland just recently and the closure of tax incentives by the Ministry of Finance. And a lot more

                        Cyprus is no longer an offshore company. Actually, as it entered the EU, and began to work according to the European rules of reporting and taxation.
                        And yes, offshore companies are now pinching all over the world, except, probably, the state of Delaware only))) that's just everyone understands - who is driving this offshore and at whose finger snap it is possible to pinch the eggs of any company.
                      7. +2
                        3 March 2021 15: 37
                        I just cited Cyprus as a starting point. On his example, everything is very clear how everything changes and quickly. In my humble opinion, the placement of funds in any offshore is now roulette. Too inadequate risks. And the fact that our Ministry of Finance in recent years is really engaged in this direction is difficult to ignore. Although it should have been done much earlier.
                      8. -1
                        3 March 2021 18: 30
                        If taxes on companies were reduced to average European ones, then everyone would have been sitting here for a long time.
          2. +1
            4 March 2021 04: 14
            But in fact there will be facts?
        2. nnm
          +1
          3 March 2021 09: 06
          Colleague, have you ever asked yourself a question, for example, why only accounts are prohibited for officials? Why are other assets not prohibited - real estate, deposits, yachts, etc.? Why doesn't this concern their families at all? ...
          1. +1
            3 March 2021 09: 22
            Quote: nnm
            Why are officials only banned from accounts? Why are other assets not prohibited - real estate, deposits, yachts, etc.? Why doesn't this concern their families at all? ...

            Well, it seems to me that it is difficult to maintain the same real estate and so on without accounts. It is not from Russia to take out suitcases of cash. And families in the future can arrange problems by demanding proof of the non-involvement of the above-mentioned persons in the welfare of family members hi
            1. nnm
              +1
              3 March 2021 09: 25
              There are absolutely no problems - all assets are registered in a trust or offshore company with a nominal owner and an assignment agreement for an official kept in a Swiss bank deposit .. Now this is exactly what is done.
          2. BAI
            +2
            3 March 2021 09: 31
            It is easy to transfer money from accounts to the Russian Federation - the owner has not changed, only lies in another bank and is controlled by other persons. And the prohibition of real estate - it is necessary to part with it. It is bitter, insulting and sad. Therefore, no one will go for it.
            1. nnm
              +2
              3 March 2021 09: 34
              I agree .... that's what the state is, that would determine the rules of the game for its citizens, especially during the conduct of an open economic war against us by the United States. And, you see, parting is closer to "giving", but no one bothers to set a deadline for the sale of this property and repatriation of the proceeds to the banks of the Russian Federation. I repeat - there would be a desire, but how to answer it is quite possible to come up with. And you need to.
        3. +16
          3 March 2021 09: 48
          Quote: Dodikson
          bureaucrats do not keep accounts in the west

          And where are they kept, in the savings?
          Well, is there another option to fill the apartment with money?
          1. Alf
            -1
            3 March 2021 10: 40
            Quote: Malyuta
            Well, is there another option to fill the apartment with money?

            Zakharchenko already kept ... Where are those grandmothers now?
            1. +17
              3 March 2021 10: 43
              Quote: Alf
              Zakharchenko already kept ... Where are those grandmothers now?

              Some thieves took the loot from other thieves. And how many more such unknown zakharchenkas and their apartments and houses filled with tons of money.
              1. Alf
                -1
                3 March 2021 10: 44
                Quote: Malyuta
                Some thieves took the loot from other thieves.

                The revolutionary term "plunder the loot" has not lost its relevance ...
                1. +11
                  3 March 2021 10: 52
                  Quote: Alf
                  The revolutionary term "plunder the loot" has not lost its relevance ...

                  Then there was a slightly different slogan, the expropriation of the expropriators in favor of the people.
                  1. Alf
                    -1
                    3 March 2021 10: 54
                    Quote: Malyuta
                    Quote: Alf
                    The revolutionary term "plunder the loot" has not lost its relevance ...

                    Then there was a slightly different slogan, the expropriation of the expropriators in favor of the people.

                    So the current "people" are on the list, and the rest are the "electorate".
                    1. +17
                      3 March 2021 10: 57
                      Quote: Alf
                      So the current "people" are on the list, and the rest are the "electorate".

                      Uh-huh, new "dvryanstvo", their mother
                      1. Alf
                        +1
                        3 March 2021 11: 03
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        Quote: Alf
                        So the current "people" are on the list, and the rest are the "electorate".

                        Uh-huh, new "dvryanstvo", their mother


                        Here it is, the new nobility, in all its glory ..
                      2. +17
                        3 March 2021 11: 08
                        Quote: Alf
                        Here it is, the new nobility, in all its glory ..

                        Unfortunately, many of our fellow citizens are satisfied with this alignment, they do not want changes.
                      3. +1
                        4 March 2021 02: 25
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        Uh-huh, new "dvryanstvo", their mother
                        Kalashnikov in his books, - This bureaucratic mega-creature calls it "GOLEM" ... winked
              2. +6
                3 March 2021 11: 14
                Some do not care, they threw off their daughter and live for themselves
                1. Alf
                  +1
                  3 March 2021 12: 47
                  Quote: Antidote
                  Some do not care, they threw off their daughter and live for themselves

                  Talented people also have talented children ...
                  1. +17
                    3 March 2021 12: 57
                    Quote: Alf
                    Talented people also have talented children ...

                    that's for sure, sons of ragozin and patrushev, daughter of peskov, many more "talents" are growing up in paris and london.
                    1. Alf
                      +3
                      3 March 2021 13: 16
                      Quote: Malyuta
                      Quote: Alf
                      Talented people also have talented children ...

                      that's for sure, sons of ragozin and patrushev, daughter of peskov, many more "talents" are growing up in paris and london.

                      1. +15
                        3 March 2021 13: 29
                        Quote: Alf
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        Quote: Alf
                        Talented people also have talented children ...

                        that's for sure, sons of ragozin and patrushev, daughter of peskov, many more "talents" are growing up in paris and london.


                        These are the hereditary "social elevators" in our country.
                      2. +1
                        4 March 2021 02: 36
                        Quote: Alf
                        Talented people also have talented children ...

                        Gennady Khazanov once had a good one parody of Brezhnev, to whom, as if someone from those present at his (Brezhnev's) speech, asked a question- "And why, in fact, the children of the members of the Central Committee of the CPSU, almost immediately go to work in the Central Committee?!..
                        what is that (Brezhnev) answered- "we are for labor dynasties !!!" wink
        4. +2
          3 March 2021 13: 00
          Quote: Dodikson
          and what capital was withdrawn by the Kremlin?

          what Is your surname Matrosov by any chance?
        5. -1
          4 March 2021 11: 52
          Quote: Dodikson
          bureaucrats do not keep accounts in the west because the Europeans began to block and confiscate these accounts several years ago.

          After your words, all the bureaucrats ran to transfer money from foreign banks to Russian ones. I don't even want to laugh. But you told an anecdote on the topic of the day.
      4. nnm
        0
        3 March 2021 09: 03
        That's what I hinted at, colleague. Until the beloved children were kicked out of Columbia College, until the assets were taken away nothing more serious concern can not wait.
      5. -1
        3 March 2021 09: 32
        Quote: apro
        Quote: nnm
        and the result is one - another portion of concern.

        What else can they say ???

        Here, probably soon Lesha himself will speak to the camera, "to the delight" of mattresses and all of Europe. Nobody canceled the freedom of speech! I wonder how in this case they will jam this freedom winked
        1. Alf
          +6
          3 March 2021 10: 41
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Nobody canceled the freedom of speech!

          Power guarantees freedom of speech.
          But it does not guarantee freedom after speech.
          1. +1
            3 March 2021 13: 55
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Nobody canceled the freedom of speech!

            Power guarantees freedom of speech.
            But it does not guarantee freedom after speech.

            Well, in this case, in the fact that Lyosha would be silent, his curators are more interested. If Lyosha goes to the conscience and tells on camera about their participation in organizing glove affairs in Russia, they will not like it very much. But the state, can take into account the fact that he went to cooperate with the investigation and as a bonus, can cut his sentence for "good behavior" and positive characteristics.
        2. -1
          3 March 2021 13: 42
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Here, probably soon Lesha himself will speak to the camera
          Navalny will serve time in a colony where cowards are produced
          Correctional colony No. 2 in the city of Pokrov, Vladimir region of Russia, to which opposition leader Alexei Navalny was taken, is engaged in the production of underwear for the Federal Penitentiary Service (FSIN). This was reported yesterday by The Insider.
          He is special in panties. First, he will speak to the barrack, or he will be determined in the opera department. Then, maybe, it will reach the camera.
          1. +1
            3 March 2021 14: 39
            Quote: sniperino
            Navalny will serve time in a colony where cowards are produced
            There is no limit to perfection! He will receive the specialty of a seamstress-minder, will be released, will open an atelier for sewing panties and thongs. Will heal on a grand scale!
            Quote: sniperino
            He is special in his panties

            This is doubtful. How did he then allow what would be poured into his "novice" panties?
            1. -1
              3 March 2021 14: 44
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              This is doubtful. How did he then allow what would be poured into his "novice" panties?
              Then he was still a specialist in palace construction, now he figured out the underpants.
          2. Alf
            +1
            3 March 2021 19: 28
            Quote: sniperino
            Navalny will serve time in a colony where cowards are produced

            FSINovtsam will sew sandpaper into panties? So to speak, a petty dirty trick ..
      6. Alf
        +1
        3 March 2021 10: 35
        Quote: apro
        the main thing is not to touch the withdrawn capital so far ...

        UNTIL...
      7. -1
        3 March 2021 11: 10
        the main thing is not to touch the withdrawn capital.

        Do you think that the stolen capital will return to Russia again? It’s not better to introduce more such personal sanctions, but they didn’t forget about relatives and their real estate over the hill.
        1. Alf
          +1
          3 March 2021 11: 27
          Quote: private person
          It’s not better to introduce more such personal sanctions, but they didn’t forget about relatives and their real estate over the hill.

          The most offensive thing is that our government will begin to compensate for the capital lost THERE at the expense of ordinary people.
          1. 0
            3 March 2021 14: 34
            capital lost THERE

            Yes, by and large, they will not lose anything, since everything is recorded on dummies and relatives.
      8. 0
        3 March 2021 12: 42
        One gets the impression that these sanctions are a mutual fruit of the decision of the collective West and the Russian Federation. Everyone is happy and claps their hands. drinks
    2. +8
      3 March 2021 08: 24
      The above persons laughed out loud ..
      1. -1
        3 March 2021 08: 29
        ... they burst out laughing and closed the doors of apartments in which packs of banknotes of various currencies lay in neat piles ...
      2. +2
        3 March 2021 09: 17
        Quote: 210ox
        The above persons laughed out loud ..

        especially the former leader of the Union of Right Forces Kiriyenko, and of Zolotov, whose grandson lives and studies in London
        1. -10
          3 March 2021 09: 30
          whose grandson lives and studies in London

          Let's not apply this stupid argument. Teaching children abroad has long been not a marker of a thieving official. It can be afforded by middle-class businessmen of the level of the owner of a local chain of sausage shops. A villa in Spain or Great Britain for a dozen other million euros - this is really a marker.
          1. -1
            3 March 2021 19: 58
            Quote: Ka-52
            Teaching children abroad has long been not a marker of a thieving official
            Moreover, to teach economics. It is not according to the HSE program to take courses for the comprador bourgeoisie. It is better to study in the metropolis in order to work later in a sovereign state. Or we don't need literate economists at all.
            1. 0
              4 March 2021 04: 42
              Or we don't need literate economists at all.

              we need techies. As well as lawyers, we have more economists than we need at times. Check out the list of the most in-demand professions. There are no economists there)
              1. 0
                4 March 2021 10: 17
                Quote: Ka-52
                We have ... more economists than we need at times.
                To have a degree in economics, to be able to interpret events, the actions of the "invisible hand of the market", telling how you can react to them and how competitors are likely to react to them in order to make a profit, this is one thing. To be this "hand" himself and to regulate the processes of production and consumption, managing financial flows in conditions when the "head" leads own policy, other competencies are required. The colonial economy lives according to one laws, and the economy of the metropolis according to others. This explains both the general "dissident" position of the HSE, in which the economy is placed above politics, and Putin's policies claim sovereignty, and the presence of a liberal bloc that has studied economics in the United States and England, in the Russian government and the Central Bank.
                1. +1
                  4 March 2021 10: 37
                  the presence of a liberal bloc that studied economics in the United States and England, in the government of the Russian Federation and the Central Bank.

                  The funny thing is that we have economists, there are liberals, there are even liberal economists who studied in the US and the World Bank .... but we really don't have an economy. She limps on both legs.
                  1. 0
                    4 March 2021 11: 15
                    Quote: Ka-52
                    we do not really have an economy. She limps on both legs.
                    Does not work. If the economy is not torn to shreds amid a tough economic war with a stronger adversary, then we do not just have it, but even begins to rise to its feet, develop as a new economy of a country with political sovereignty. To do this, it was necessary to ensure that our Armed Forces could resist a strong enemy in the local conflicts and wars organized by him, which affect the state of the entire theater of economic action, and remove colonial legislation.
        2. -2
          3 March 2021 09: 37
          SPS leader Kiriyenko
          As Vika speaks to Petya, Kirienko's father, Vladilen Yakovlevich Izraitel.
        3. -4
          3 March 2021 10: 47
          And what will the grandson be for? Never mind.
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    3. +17
      3 March 2021 08: 29
      And what symmetrical answer can we give to our "partners"? the accounts of their officials in Sberbank?
      1. +9
        3 March 2021 08: 53
        The Central Bank in December increased investments in US government bonds - immediately by a billion dollars. RIA News.
      2. nnm
        +5
        3 March 2021 09: 17
        Colleague, you highly underestimate us. Just the first options that came to mind:
        1. Full sale of US government bonds;
        2. Perhaps the most important thing is to prohibit legal entities and individuals from opening accounts in US banks and in banks affiliated with them;
        3. Prohibiting officials from owning assets in any form in the United States;
        4. Ban on the ownership of companies in the United States for everyone;
        5. Exclusive tax jurisdiction in relation to the USA (by the way, in the USA itself it already exists) - ie. regardless of the time a tax resident is in the United States, he pays taxes in Russia;
        6. Ban on supplies of palladium and titanium to the USA;
        7. Introduction on the French model of tax on IT companies;
        8. Prohibition of Roskosmos on cooperation with the United States both in manned space exploration and in the supply of engines;
        9. Ban on the supply and maintenance of helicopters for NATO in Afghanistan;
        10. A ban on the import of equipment for selected companies whose products have affordable and comparable analogs (I personally know examples when in 2014 the Americans, after leaving the market, then crawled on their knees asking for contracts, but their place was already taken by Korea). ..

        etc. You, colleague, are completely wrong to think that we really have nothing to answer.
        1. +7
          3 March 2021 09: 24
          Are we going to punish the United States with these steps? Not your citizens?
          1. nnm
            0
            3 March 2021 09: 31
            No, we will not punish. Except for helicopters. The world market will gladly accept rare earth metals even without the USA. I also don't see any problems, except for the commission for transfers (and, therefore, an increase in the income of our banks) with internal accounts. Owning assets and companies in the United States - if this is done for the convenience of the scheme itself - for example, some American daughter is registered there - then what is the problem to bring her home? from this it will not fall out of the chain of financial processes, but they will go inside the country. The most controversial issue of asset ownership in the United States for all citizens and legal entities in Russia is, yes, a difficult question. But, excuse me, what damage will it do to them? Their assets are not nationalized, but simply change their jurisdiction. But it should be understood that the United States is actually waging an economic and political war against us, and the longer we do not respond, the greater our total losses will be.
            1. +1
              3 March 2021 09: 45
              "Owning assets and companies in the United States - if this is done for the convenience of the scheme itself - for example, some American daughter is registered there - then what is the problem to bring her home? From this she will not fall out of the chain of financial processes, but they will go inside the country" - will fall out. Often without opening a local legal entity. It is simply impossible for a person to conduct business even formally (as an example, Roskomnadzor's requirements for IT companies to have a legal entity of the Russian Federation).
              1. nnm
                -1
                3 March 2021 09: 49
                Colleague, I would be happy to discuss with you a similar, but somewhat more specific example based on the example of the current chain of companies in the United States. This is not sarcasm, because it would be really interesting to see the validity of the demands of the American side and the economic consequences for our side.
                1. +1
                  3 March 2021 10: 25
                  "the validity of the requirements of the American side and the economic consequences for our side" - I probably formulated incorrectly - as far as I know, there are no differences between resident / non-resident in the USA and there should be no formal obstacles (but again, different states may have their own troubles). But with the actual activity from the Russian Federation, there were problems before (mainly payment), and now the general "toxicity" of everything connected with the Russian Federation has been added. Judging by IT companies operating in the United States, where there are acquaintances.
                  Probably I immediately thought about companies with production assets in the United States, for example, NLMK with its own plant - how can he do without a local registration?
            2. +4
              3 March 2021 10: 43
              the ban on the sale of palladium and titanium is a restriction of its own sales market, Russia is not a monopolist in these elements, supplies will be replaced.
              change jurisdiction - this means that they will pay taxes twice
              The ban on the maintenance of helicopters - in Ukraine, they jump for joy.
              The prohibition of Roscosmos on cooperation with the United States both in manned space exploration and in the supply of engines - the profit from the sale of engines will be lost, but in reality this is another nail in Roscosmos.
              Sale of highly liquid and profitable securities - and what will the States get from this? Someone else will buy it.
              1. +2
                3 March 2021 12: 37
                Quote: Avior
                Sale of highly liquid and profitable securities - and what will the States get from this? Someone else will buy it.

                The US government bond market is supported only by the high confidence of all market players. Therefore, liquidity is undeniable, for now. But trust at the casino table can disappear at any moment. But the yield on these securities is not at all high. And no one else will buy in these volumes. Everyone who can buy has been buying for a long time. Even those who cannot buy even under pressure.
                1. +1
                  3 March 2021 14: 30
                  Trust rests on the fact that they pay stably on them.
                  And no one has any doubts in the foreseeable future that the situation will change
                  If it changes, we will see immediately, everyone will rush to drain
                  But not because Russia sells them at a discount, otherwise you won't sell them quickly
                  1. +1
                    3 March 2021 15: 45
                    Quote: Avior
                    If it changes, we will see immediately, everyone will rush to drain
                    But not because Russia sells them at a discount, otherwise you won't sell them quickly

                    When they rush to drain, it will be too late. The collapse will be instantaneous. When this happens, it will not seem enough to anyone.
                    Russia did not even try to collapse the US Treasury market. Firstly, it would be suicide to bring down the price of your own investments. Secondly, given our investment volumes, it is difficult for us to compete with the largest holders such as the Fed, Japan and China. They might not have noticed.
                    We didn't drive too much. Slowly, since 2014, the share of treasury bonds in the gold and foreign exchange reserves has been reduced to an almost imperceptible value, 6-7 billion, if I'm not mistaken. But there were 165 billion.
                    So Russia is preparing for the New Depression, though little by little. It will be more difficult for China to do this. By the way, he also managed to throw off 200 billion. The remaining trillion will take years. But whether Japan, Great Britain and comrades will be ready for a big bang is a question of questions. Any bubble will burst, a matter of time and wall thickness.
                    1. +1
                      3 March 2021 17: 04
                      So life will pass if it treats everything according to the principle - everything will end someday.
        2. -2
          3 March 2021 09: 25
          Of course, there is something to answer, but there is no one to answer.
        3. nnm
          +2
          3 March 2021 09: 37
          I almost forgot:
          11. dismissal of officials, top managers of state corporations and a ban on working in these positions when teaching their children, including and in case of divorces (for a period of 3 years after divorce) in the United States.
          1. +6
            3 March 2021 10: 45
            and these are sanctions against the United States? what is it to them?
        4. 0
          3 March 2021 09: 41
          it is in vain that you think that we really have nothing to answer.
          So there is no one
        5. 0
          3 March 2021 09: 53
          Beat your own so that strangers are afraid. Voronezh is not enough for a complete epic. laughing
          1. Alf
            +1
            3 March 2021 10: 45
            Quote: Ronald Reagan
            Voronezh is not enough for a complete epic

            Do not shine further steps of power ...
        6. +2
          3 March 2021 10: 34
          Items 2-9 are not sanctions against the United States, but against their own.
        7. +1
          3 March 2021 10: 38
          There are opportunities, but there is no desire. It was necessary to realize these opportunities 6 years ago, but excuses always come across, personal business and let Russia wait.
        8. Alf
          +1
          3 March 2021 10: 43
          Quote: nnm
          You, colleague, are completely wrong to think that we really have nothing to answer.

          There is something to answer, only there is a problem with the respondents ...
        9. 0
          3 March 2021 14: 22
          Quote: nnm
          in vain you think that we really have nothing to answer.

          Are you so sure none of the above will be reported in the response? And if so, will you admit in the corresponding article that you are wrong?
      3. +3
        3 March 2021 09: 19
        And what symmetrical answer can we give to "partners"?


        It's a no-brainer that symmetry won't work, but you can hit painfully the set for this is very wide. Ban, for example, a dozen other NGOs funded by the SGA, kick out any participating oil and gas campaign or seriously restrict it, disconnect US servers from our Internet, but I think there is enough leverage.
        1. +1
          3 March 2021 09: 43
          disconnect US servers from our internet,
          maybe I'm wrong, but our Internet is the US servers
          1. +5
            3 March 2021 09: 50
            maybe I'm wrong, but our Internet is the US servers


            No, for example, the VO site from amerskih servers moved to our server for two years.
    4. +2
      3 March 2021 09: 04
      Yes, there are a lot of such questions, but the result is one - another portion of concern .......... but otherwise, no matter how ... only if some articles of the constitution of the Russian Federation are changed ... and it is the very main article 10 ... because of it the whole mess in the country .... and so .... only concern and misunderstanding can be expressed
    5. 0
      3 March 2021 09: 17
      Quote: nnm
      Yes, there are many such questions, but the result is one - another portion of concern.

      What sanctions - that is the answer. Our Foreign Ministry does not like to work for the public (it probably just doesn’t know how, just as it didn’t know how during the Soviet Union times), the Western-style Foreign Ministry tries to use every little thing for PR. Judge for yourself - in order to prohibit entry into the United States, it is enough to cancel the visa if there is one, if it is not there, it is enough not to issue it. For this it is not at all necessary to notify the entire "world community". Chit water PR from scratch. The seizure of accounts of individuals also takes place without the participation of the Foreign Ministries of the interested countries. Moreover, I doubt that these persons had such accounts. And these are sanctions? Yes, these sanctions are even more toothless than the concerns of our Foreign Ministry.
      Real sanctions were introduced after Crimea is ours. And after a modest "expression of concern" by the Russian Foreign Ministry, no such sanctions were imposed. Apparently, besides "concern" there was something else ...
      PS I follow the news a little, but I haven't heard about the arrests of our citizens in third countries for a long time ... Maybe I missed something?
    6. +7
      3 March 2021 10: 57
      Quote: nnm
      In other words, as usual - NO

      Why not. It can be assumed that the Russian Federation put THEIR employee of Mr Navalny in the most red zone of all red zones, where he should have a desire to reveal himself already on the second day of his stay there. And he did not sit for a day, not two, but two and a half years.
    7. 0
      3 March 2021 12: 52
      Quote: nnm
      The concern is expressed, but there is not enough courage for more ...

    8. 0
      3 March 2021 13: 00
      In particular, sanctions against Russia were introduced under the 1991 CBW Act, which describes restrictive measures for the use of chemical weapons. First, the sanctions of the first stage are introduced: from the ban on the supply of weapons to the termination of any assistance from the United States, except humanitarian.
      After that, the country is given 90 days to admit violations and stop using chemical weapons. If the conditions are not met, a second and tougher package of sanctions is introduced, it provides six measures, the US President will have to introduce at least three of them.
      In other words, as early as June, Washington may introduce a ban on lending to government agencies of the violating country by American banks, that is, completely ban work with the Russian national debt.
    9. -1
      3 March 2021 13: 23
      Quote: nnm
      The concern is expressed, but there is not enough courage for more.
      On the couch, everyone feels confident and usually speaks out more boldly than in life.
  2. -1
    3 March 2021 08: 24
    According to the Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, the answer will not necessarily be symmetrical.
    Well, it is doubtful that EU and US officials have accounts in the same Sberbank or VTB. What kind of symmetry is there.
    1. +7
      3 March 2021 08: 28
      And which of the above officials has accounts in the EU and the US?
    2. 0
      3 March 2021 09: 33
      Well, it is doubtful that EU and US officials have accounts in the same Sberbank or VTB. What kind of symmetry is there .......... well, yes .... when they are in the Russian Federation .. they are doing tanga for living, they are dropped by parachute ... there are bills ... and not small ones ..... the cowardice of the Russian authorities lies elsewhere. namely in the constitution of the Russian Federation itself
  3. +2
    3 March 2021 08: 31
    The set of punishments is standard - a ban on entry, freezing of accounts (if any), a ban on US citizens from doing business with them.
    Does this mean that the listed Russian citizens have no accounts and no real estate abroad? In particular in the EU and the USA?
  4. +1
    3 March 2021 08: 33
    Not necessarily symmetrical, not necessary to react
    1. -1
      3 March 2021 09: 48
      Not necessarily symmetrical, not necessary to react
      and detail?..
  5. +5
    3 March 2021 08: 38
    "This is just the beginning": the United States and the European Union imposed sanctions against Russia in the "Navalny case"

    Began? Is it?
    This "banquet" was, is and will be .... Russia will not attend it and all the business. And those who are interested there, let them turn themselves, in their own way.
    1. +2
      3 March 2021 09: 02
      This is a feast, as we say during their atrocities ...

      Good time! hi
      1. -1
        3 March 2021 09: 12
        Good morning soldier although ... the weather is NOT PLEASANT!
        Well, the news, they are, frankly speaking ... expected, familiar, and it is a stretch to call them news.
        Sanctions then, sanctions ... in fact, neither this nor that!
        I listened to the news from the striped hair ... no, not appeasement, only licking ... or rather, an attempt to lick what is on its hind legs!
        Black, badly not gender and others COULD !!! Here's how you can ??? fool
        And here ... tyho, tyho, after spitting on the marked one, count EVERYTHING!
        Oh yes, horror, horror, in the reports of "Dozhd" ... the town, the inhabitants of the village, where the un-poisoned inmate, in the end, sat down, DIDN'T APPRECIATE, such a "gift" ... they DO EXACTLY, from the definition of CARE!
        That's the same thing ...
        1. +4
          3 March 2021 09: 57
          I don’t listen to these agents, there’s enough others, and so her own head, as it were, gives a better indication and determines what I wish for others, especially for the funny minusers. Yes
          1. +2
            3 March 2021 10: 24
            Quote: cniza
            I don't listen to these agents

            "Dojl" I do not listen, they were so offended, in the morning the nightingales rode .... it turned out cool, especially the statements of the locals about the inmate.
            1. +2
              3 March 2021 10: 27
              There they have their own scores, but "rain" is just an enemy and why do we tolerate it? ...
              1. +1
                3 March 2021 10: 42
                And who else is there to laugh at ???
                It is not reasonable to close the media when / if they comply with the LEGISLATION and hold the answer, for nonsense and other indecent !!! It is not childish to fine for lying, to call to account for libel ... then it will be normal.
                Without an alternative point of view at all ... it is dangerous, some \ many may be cut off, no criticism !!! We have already gone through this!
                And so, the media is a reflection of the processes taking place in society itself ... it has always been so, is and will be!
                Do not prohibit, but create rules that are binding on ALL !!!
                1. +2
                  3 March 2021 10: 49
                  We have enough Petrosyans ... why is it financed by an enterprise with a controlling stake in the state ...?
                  1. +1
                    3 March 2021 11: 23
                    Quote: cniza
                    why is it financed by an enterprise with a controlling stake in the state ...?

                    But this is NOT NECESSARY! Wean them off the state feeder ... however, then they will stretch their hooves quickly, but this will only be THEIR problems.
                    1. +2
                      3 March 2021 12: 50
                      It turns out that these are undercover agents ... laughing
                      1. +1
                        3 March 2021 13: 13
                        Such a little thought crept in and not only with us. It's not the first time I've heard.
                      2. +2
                        3 March 2021 13: 31
                        That is, the government itself has created an opposition for itself and maintains them, keeping them under control and the people who are crazy in business ...
                      3. +1
                        3 March 2021 13: 50
                        "such a subtle game" ... but the subtle always breaks, especially this.
                      4. +2
                        3 March 2021 13: 51
                        Yeah, and it hits the other end very painfully ...
    2. 0
      3 March 2021 09: 28
      Quote: rocket757
      Began? Is it?

      Yes, it has not ended since 1917, and will not end.
      1. +1
        3 March 2021 10: 27
        Since 1917, a NEW STAGE began, and before that there were different things ... Russia, the Gay Europeans, did not love, they were FEARED always, constantly.
        1. +1
          3 March 2021 11: 13
          Quote: rocket757
          Russia, gayropeans, did not like, FEAR always, constantly.

          Of course they were afraid, as Chancellor Bezborodko said - "Without our permission, not a single gun in Europe could fire."
    3. -1
      3 March 2021 09: 50
      And those who are interested there, let them turn themselves, in their own way.
      but those interested there live in Russia ...
      1. 0
        3 March 2021 10: 29
        THERE IS also here, undoubtedly ... but now, not all of this is advertised ... although it is not even necessary to make a list ... you can look at the Forbes, count, for example.
  6. +3
    3 March 2021 08: 39
    they forgot to add in the news that the Americans made the "sphere of space technologies" an exception ..
    1. +1
      3 March 2021 08: 49
      Well, the minke whales have everything calculated, they are life-long hucksters ... when they NEED, nothing can stop it ...
      whom they sanctioned there, cunning, imposed, Zimbabwe !!! everyone, everything is under sanctions, except for NICKEL ... because they NEED it!
  7. 0
    3 March 2021 08: 40
    Why don't they call the sanctions anti-Russian again?))
    We know that Russia is a dozen officials.
    1. -3
      3 March 2021 13: 39
      Have you tried reading the article?
  8. 0
    3 March 2021 08: 42
    "The Russian Foreign Ministry has already reacted to the imposed sanctions, stating that a response will follow shortly. According to Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, the answer will not necessarily be symmetrical." Remembering the tradition of our authorities, I would venture to suggest that the asymmetric response to the sanctions is precisely these words of the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Alas, it’s not even funny anymore, girls. I do not believe that there are no effective measures to curb, even at the cost of some trouble for our oligarchs. Lamentations about, oh, how not to hurt yourself. I want to forgive, for myself THIS IS WHOM?
  9. +3
    3 March 2021 08: 44
    Yes, heap on this business!
    1. +1
      3 March 2021 08: 50
      No, no, don't give them "fertilizers" either!
    2. +1
      3 March 2021 09: 24
      Quote: Kapral Alphitch
      Yes, heap on this business!

      In response to the sanctions for Navalny, give Navalny another ten years in prison. Five years for mattress sanctions + five years for European ones. Let him sit. Yes
      We will react on the basis of the principle of reciprocity, not necessarily symmetrically
  10. HAM
    0
    3 March 2021 08: 46
    One thing is surprising - why sanctions were not introduced against moonshiners in the village of Kaftanchikovo, they certainly have a direct relationship to the "poisoning" of Lyokha with combat moonshine ...
    And I would not be surprised if sanctions were introduced against Omsk doctors who dared to save the life of the sacred victim ...
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    2. HAM
      0
      3 March 2021 13: 33
      Lyokha has problems with the pituitary gland, for him moonshine is like a "newbie" .....
  11. +1
    3 March 2021 09: 00
    The United States also imposed sanctions on three Russian research institutes, accusing them of "facilitating the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction or their delivery method, or creating the risk of such assistance."


    It’s interesting, but when they carried out analyzes, examinations - what did they compare with? and where did they get the samples for comparison?
    1. +3
      3 March 2021 09: 13
      This is not the point, they could take data from their heads, the main thing is that we have nothing to answer with all this.
      1. +2
        3 March 2021 09: 58
        Quote: ALARI
        This is not the point, they could take data from their heads, the main thing is that we have nothing to answer with all this.


        I think there is nothing yet ...
    2. +2
      3 March 2021 09: 15
      Well, uh, finger on the table, along the bottom of the glass, we were TORRIBLE and ...... remembered Powell and the broads, hit with sanctions.
      1. +2
        3 March 2021 09: 59
        So they themselves look funny or everyone does not understand that this is their art ...
        1. +1
          3 March 2021 10: 31
          They understand, but the point is that it is NECESSARY !!! here about honor, conscience, reasoning, but it's funny.
          1. +3
            3 March 2021 10: 46
            The deeper they get into this process, the more stupid this situation looks ...
            1. +2
              3 March 2021 11: 09
              Yes, they are sho ... even in the eyes on a strand! they SHOULD !!! They have business, their business is not going ah ...
              1. +2
                3 March 2021 12: 48
                Well, any situation has borders of absurdity, here it is just solid absurdity ...
                1. +1
                  3 March 2021 13: 05
                  This is from the outside, we are so picky / harmful !!! We do not take their word for it, from the definition AT ALL!
                  1. +2
                    3 March 2021 13: 27
                    Well, yes, we are completely insolent, we do not want to obey the "exceptional" ...
                    1. +1
                      3 March 2021 13: 46
                      We sho, absolutely bad ... we want to love our women and we will protect our rear from all sorts of different!
                      1. +2
                        3 March 2021 13: 48
                        Oh, for them this question is forbidden, only in Chihara and in the kitchen ... laughing
                      2. +1
                        3 March 2021 13: 58
                        The most personal and we do not dump it on public display ... not all, of course, are half fools and we already have, but we no longer tolerate extremes.
    3. +4
      3 March 2021 09: 28
      Quote: cniza
      I wonder when they spent analyzes, examinations - what did they compare with?

      They didn't. They wrote from the bulldozer, because initially they were not going to provide the results to anyone.
      1. +3
        3 March 2021 10: 00
        Well, yes, there are no serious specialists left, so it will do just that ...
  12. +3
    3 March 2021 09: 08
    Freeze Blinkin's accounts with Sberbank!
    1. +3
      3 March 2021 09: 26
      No-no-no - this is not scary for them ... - To remove Gref and everyone who is tied to the IMF and membership in the directorates of foreign companies not on our territory (financial foreign agents). Immediately there will be concern, almost like our Foreign Ministry
      1. 0
        3 March 2021 12: 54
        Quote: mark1
        To remove Gref and everyone who is tied to the IMF and membership in directorates of foreign companies not on our territory (financial foreign agents). Immediately there will be concern, almost like our Foreign Ministry

        Super. A real asymmetrical answer. Plus Nabiullina and Silluanov. The concern of partners is guaranteed. Until the new ones are put in their places.
  13. +2
    3 March 2021 09: 11
    Quote: WHAT IS
    And what symmetrical answer can we give to our "partners"? the accounts of their officials in Sberbank?

    Counterquestion. And what new was announced? Are we still taking loans in the United States or buying American weapons in batches?
  14. BAI
    +2
    3 March 2021 09: 26
    against the head of the TFR Alexander Bastrykin and the director of the National Guard Viktor Zolotov

    I say right away - I approve.
    1. +1
      3 March 2021 09: 45
      Special gloating is delivered by kindersurprise, I remember well 98g. and how much I lost then. It's a pity that not all those responsible for that default were caught.
  15. 0
    3 March 2021 09: 45
    Washington demanded an "urgent" release of Navalny.
    And why did they not immediately demand that VVP resign and hand them over to a "prisoner of conscience" who turns out to be no longer a "prisoner" of the word at all? Or was it postponed until its formidable
    this is "just the beginning"
  16. +3
    3 March 2021 09: 48
    a convenient opportunity to recognize the Donetsk republics by the way
    1. Alf
      +1
      3 March 2021 10: 57
      Quote: Vlad Pervovich
      a convenient opportunity to recognize the Donetsk republics by the way

      And Putin needs it? Then, after all, REAL sanctions will be introduced, they will really take for the wallet, and no longer the country, but specifically some.
  17. -1
    3 March 2021 09: 53
    The lesis sat down, the sanctions, for every day of imprisonment, the sanctions will come out, apparently, for the joy of the chicks. Will dump over the hill right there, so in general the royal reason to sanction.)))
  18. -1
    3 March 2021 10: 17
    The list of sanctions is amazing))) To put it mildly, they do not care for the country
    1. +2
      3 March 2021 10: 24
      You forgot to add the main thing. Sanctions are good for us!
  19. Alf
    0
    3 March 2021 10: 33
    We will react on the basis of the principle of reciprocity, not necessarily symmetrically

    It is logical that American senators in Russia do not have accounts and real estate.
    1. Alf
      +1
      3 March 2021 11: 19
      Quote: Alf
      We will react on the basis of the principle of reciprocity, not necessarily symmetrically

      It is logical that American senators in Russia do not have accounts and real estate.

      Minusator! Is there really? Can you find out from whom and the American senators where and what was bought in Russia? Or Biden's children, psaki, kerry study at Moscow State University?
    2. +1
      3 March 2021 12: 45
      Is there anything to confirm? Just for fun I ask.
      1. Alf
        0
        3 March 2021 12: 49
        Quote: Soho
        Is there anything to confirm? Just for fun I ask.

        Are you asking me?
        1. 0
          3 March 2021 13: 32
          Well, who? You write.
          1. Alf
            0
            3 March 2021 19: 30
            Quote: Soho
            Well, who? You write.

            Do you know at least one American student at Moscow State University? At least one scandal with their accounts in the Security Council?
            1. 0
              4 March 2021 04: 55
              Do not engage in chatting. I didn't ask about the students. American students have studied in Moscow several times. I don’t know about Moscow State University, but at RUDN University for sure. I asked specifically: how to confirm your statement about the absence of accounts, real estate of American congressmen in Russia.
              1. Alf
                +1
                4 March 2021 16: 58
                Quote: Soho
                than confirm your statement about the absence of accounts, real estate of American congressmen in Russia.

                At least one scandal with their accounts in the Security Council?
                1. 0
                  5 March 2021 06: 51
                  That is, the absence of a scandal is proof of the absence of the act itself? Hmm ... Next time add "in my opinion", "in my opinion" to your phrase. Otherwise, such a peremptory statement with such a level of justification instantly makes you a batter. But someone with a fool may believe. And so lies multiply
  20. -2
    3 March 2021 11: 26
    And the king is decrepit ...
  21. 0
    3 March 2021 11: 33
    Quote: HAM

    And I would not be surprised if sanctions were introduced against Omsk doctors who dared to save the life of the sacred victim ...

    Against one they entered.
  22. +1
    3 March 2021 12: 22
    Quote: Temples
    You need to take everything you need yourself
    And play in civilization can be negro-homosexuals, Ukrainians, Poles and other anxious

    Just these, although they play democracy and civilization, have incredible impudence. They take whatever they like, mostly not their own (imitating their overseas owner). I will not say that they need to learn something, but Russia needs to be more decisive in its actions. Their lard on the tinsel, and sometimes, especially zealous, can be done on the sopatka. Opportunities are there, with little political will.
  23. 0
    3 March 2021 13: 51
    All this, of course, is a laughing matter for the beavers, but there they (in the American sanctions, which Europe will obsequiously execute) have an economic part, and it’s in it that the dog fumbled, apparently.

    The United States announced its new list of enemies of the United States, which, in addition to the Russian ones, included German and one Swiss company: Chimmed Group; Chimconnect GmbH; Chimconnect AG; Pharmkontract GmbH; Femteko; Interlab; LabInvest; LLC products ANALIT; OOO Intertech; Pharmcontract GC; Rau Faem; Regionsnab; Riol-Chemie; 27th Scientific Center of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    In general, it all looks like "unfair competition". It is clear that the reason for hitting is delusional, but apparently in the US they simply cannot procedurally run into their victims without any reason at all, so this kind of cyrk with fly agaric poisoning is bred. laughing
  24. 0
    3 March 2021 13: 53
    Quote: cniza
    Well, yes, there are no serious specialists left, so it will do just that ...

    Ask for an excursion to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to see this kitchen. Then share. :)
  25. 0
    3 March 2021 13: 57
    But interestingly, in the Patriotic War of 1812, General Ermolov was not under sanctions in Europe? I don’t remember exactly, as if commanding the Russian and Prussian troops in the Foreign campaign, according to him, the Germans-Prussians brought the Prussians to the expense along with the paddling pools laughing
  26. 0
    3 March 2021 13: 58
    "Citizens! Keep your money in a savings bank!" Georges Miloslavsky. hi
  27. 0
    3 March 2021 14: 05
    laughing I wonder how the Americans with other individuals will then pull their assets out of Russia?
  28. 0
    3 March 2021 14: 12
    Export of black caviar from the USA to Russia

    Threatened too?

    That is how to train shaggy bast shoes

    Ballet can be stopped.

    P's. Go to bed, you're drunk (c)

    Clinical, deficit of all budgets,

    Paying interest on debts alone is not childish.

    And in confusion they think of themselves as the world's creditors :) laughing
  29. 0
    3 March 2021 18: 31
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Vlad Pervovich
    a convenient opportunity to recognize the Donetsk republics by the way

    And Putin needs it? Then, after all, REAL sanctions will be introduced, they will really take for the wallet, and no longer the country, but specifically some.

    if they could, they would have taken it long ago
  30. 0
    3 March 2021 20: 44
    Aren't these characters already sitting under multiple sanctions for other cases?
    Only the characters do not care deeply.
  31. 0
    3 March 2021 20: 53
    Politeness and diplomacy does not mean giving in to someone in something. It's not even always - to negotiate. Politeness and diplomacy, it is polite and diplomatic to insist on your interests.