The timing of the start of state tests of new ammunition for the TOS-2 flamethrower system has been announced

The newest rockets for the new TOS-2 Tosochka heavy flamethrower system will enter the state testing stage this year. This was announced by the executive director of JSC "NPK" Tekhmash "Alexander Kochkin.

The new shells for TOS-2, in contrast to those used earlier, have an increased range and increased power. Currently, a batch of new ammunition is being purchased for conducting experimental military tests.

Ammunition (...) has increased accuracy and firing range, enemy armored vehicles, as well as various structures are affected by a high-temperature field and overpressure, which are created on the target area with the massive use of shells in thermobaric and smoke-incendiary equipment

- leads TASS Kochkin's words.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense reported that the use of new ammunition developed for TOS-2 makes it possible to increase the firing range up to 15 km, in contrast to 6 km for the TOS-1 "Buratino" and TOS-1A "Solntsepek" systems.

The new TOS-2 flamethrower system is preparing to undergo state tests, which will begin this month. Currently, TOS-2 is undergoing trial operation in the RKhBZ troops. At the end of 2020, a batch of new vehicles entered service with the mobile units of the RHBZ Central Military District, stationed in the Saratov region.

The TOS-2 heavy flame-throwing system was created on the basis of the TOS-1 "Buratino" and TOS-1A "Solntsepek", but in contrast to them it has a wheelbase and improved tactical and technical characteristics. Earlier it was reported about the creation of new ammunition for TOS-2. The machine was created taking into account the experience of using such weapons during the hostilities in the Middle East.

Comments

[Victor_B]

have an increased range and increased power.

Yes, shove in them very little core buns, but in one gulp!
Battery!
It would be interesting to look at the barmaleev on which.
(Explaining for the alternatively gifted - this is a JOKE !!!)
(Grumble under his breath ... otherwise it got divorced here ... clever ...)

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Quote: Victor_B

Yes, shove in them very little core buns, but in one gulp!

Funny.
There are missiles with more range for yadrenbuns, and there is no need for a volley.
And this thing to fry looking straight in the eyes.
And to ask - well what barmaley, Allah Akbar?

[Nikolaevich I]

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For yarnbuns there is

Ahhh ... that's what "yudrenbulochkah" we are talking about! And I was thinking ...

[Mavrikiy]

Is the ammunition on the photo burning (not impressive) or is the TOS-2 firing (doubtful)?

[KCA]

In the photo, the launch of shells, not explosions

[Jacket in stock]

And what does the RChBZ troops have to do with the destruction of enemy armored vehicles and structures?
Tell them that.
There is a duplication of MLRS systems.
We create a "zoo". All this is not from a great mind.

I have nothing against Tosochka herself, the system has proven its usefulness and effectiveness, but the "dances" around it cause surprise and confusion.

[Runway]

Grozny-95 ... work in the mountains ...

[Dodikson]

and what the Grad with a thermobaric warhead did not please?
By the way, Buratino was in Chechnya, and this is a 3 km range

[Runway]

Application tasks and b / p nomenclature.

[Dodikson]

What specific tasks was not suitable for the Grad with a thermobaric warhead?
and why the Grad ammunition did not fulfill the task but Pinocchio could do it?
for reference, the military did not and Buratino did not create for attacking enemy positions, because they already had something to cover the positions, but to decontaminate the terrain, in Afghanistan and Chechnya they were used stupidly because Gradov with the necessary filling was not at hand

[Runway]

I answered you in Russian that it is not clear, I don’t understand ?!

[YOUR]

Does MLRS Grad have thermobaric ammunition in the range of ammunition?
Not. There are high-explosive fragmentation, there are cluster, there are mines, smoke, there are even propaganda ones, there are no thermobaric ones.
The weight of the Grad projectile is 60 kg, the weight of the TOC projectile is under a hundred and ........

Thermobaric projectiles "Buratino" fly not far - at a maximum of six kilometers - since most of the three-meter missile is occupied not by the engine - as in the "Tornado" and "Smerch" - but by the warhead.

Those. the effectiveness of TOC is many times greater if the Grad has any shells.

[Dodikson]

The Grad has shells, 9m215 for example, but besides them there is also the PRS-60T (the F version is high-explosive, and against small submarines and underwater diverters, the coastal Grad, but the shells at the Grad are interchangeable, that is, some can shoot both , for both there and there BM21).
besides them there was one more, but I rummaged through the entire history of the browser and deleted it along the way (the dispute was on the same topic relatively recently and there was a fucking article with a photo and the name and models of missiles and warheads), but I don’t argue about the power, to this actually led, because Buratino is not a MLRS, but a chemical disinfection system and she did not need a fucking range. therefore the ammunition was powerful.
but by increasing the range, the ratio of the warhead mass to the fuel and the total weight is lost, the new versions of the TOS shoot already at 15 km and become wheeled.
the question is - how will they then differ from the Grad?

[venik]

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actually led to this, because Buratino is not a MLRS, but a system of chemical disinfection

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Where did the "firewood" come from ??? "Source" - in the studio !!!
I explain again: such nonsense is born of complete ignorance and misunderstanding goals and objectives Himvoysk (official they got the name RCBZ much later) !!!
NEVER "TOS" were not and NEVER WILL BE "means of "disinfection"" !!! These systems: conceived and exist only as a striking element of the Khimvoysk (now the troops of the RKhBZ) and replaced the traditional "liquid flamethrowers"!

[Dodikson]

perhaps they weren't.
but it was not about the use, but about the fact that with increasing range, the warhead is weakened, and we begin to receive the same Grad from a thermobaric warhead

[venik]

Quote: Dodikson

and what the Grad with a thermobaric warhead did not please?
By the way, Buratino was in Chechnya, and this is a 3 km range

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And since when did the Grad have thermobaric shells? I overslept something ???

[Dodikson]

and we slept quite a bit along the way.

[Piramidon]

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And what does the RChBZ troops have to do with the destruction of enemy armored vehicles and structures?

They call this not destruction, but disinfection.

[YOUR]

Only few of them. Based on open press materials, no more than 20 units of all modifications.
Earlier the figure was called in general - 8. Not just a little, but very, very little.

[venik]

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And what does the RChBZ troops have to do with the destruction of enemy armored vehicles and structures?

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About the same as the flamethrower units of the Chemical Troops of the Red Army and the USSR Armed Forces had ...
For the especially dull: initially they were intended not only and not so much for protection against chemical attacks and liquidation of their consequences, but also for the use of flamethrower means, OF, creation of smoke screens, etc.!

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

15 km is already a more or less good option. For from 6 km only helpless barmaley can be shot.

[rocket757]

The system was created to decontaminate the terrain ... just for the RChBZ troops, the distance was quite suitable for them ...
the system turned out to be effective for performing other tasks, but the defeat distance did not fit ... they fixed it.

[venik]

Quote: rocket757

The system was created to disinfect the area

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Pancake! How much can you repeat? NEVER TOC systems WERE NOT designed to "decontaminate" the area! Never, from the word - AT ALL!
It is a shock weapons of the Chemical Troops! The same as in their time knapsack flamethrowers, shells with HE, smoke-incendiary shells, etc. etc.....
Protection against weapons of mass destruction and elimination of the consequences of their use is just PART (!) the tasks facing the RChBZ troops !! But they also have offensive tasks (for the solution of which, in fact, "TOS" were created! And not only TOS! "Bumblebees" also belong to this category!
PS All these "abstruse arguments" about "burning out the infection" come exclusively from complete LACK OF KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING of the goals and objectives of RHBZ!

[rocket757]

No question, we had such a department, but I nominally numbered "chemists", my topic is electronics and everything that goes with it. Then, it was a long time ago, I just forgot, and I was not particularly interested ...
I accept your explanation as a specialist.

[venik]

Quote: rocket757

I accept your explanation as a specialist.

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Yes, I, too, as it were, not super-special in this area, although I had some relation to it .... By the way, it was communication with the "pros" of the RChBZ that made me look at these troops from a slightly different (in comparison with the "philistine" ) points of view! It turned out to be far away Not only and not so much - "protection"......

[rocket757]

I had enough worries in my specialization, although I listened to what the "chemists", "geographers", "cooks" and "grooms" told me ... there was enough of everyone in the company. RUPP (company for the provision of the educational process), this is still that hodgepodge!

[Ros 56]

Here on the barmaley and banderlog it is necessary to test it, if they like it, we will learn about it from the universal howl in the Western media, you can do a large series.

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Quote: Ros 56

Here on the barmaley and banderlog and you need to experience,

Duc on them and tested. We realized that we needed to improve and made a new version.

[Mountain shooter]

But! 15 km is very good ... Obviously, our chemists have introduced a new solid fuel. We flew higher and further MANPADS, long-range MLRS steel, and now we have reached the heavy flamethrowers ...

[venik]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

But! 15 km is very good ... Obviously, our chemists have introduced a new solid fuel. Fly higher and further

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I am personally interested in something else: It was reported that "Tosochka" can freely use the "old" ammunition TOS-1 "Buraino" and TOS-1A "Solntsepek" ..... Interesting, but these systems will be able to use "new" shells?