Unhappy apart: why the republics of Donbass fenced off from each other

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Tobacco apart


A year ago, the unrecognized republics of Donbass erected where there used to be a conditional border, a very real obstacle, which cannot be overcome without any special permits even today. Thousands of people who daily shuttled between Luhansk and Donetsk found themselves in an unenviable position - now, in order to get to the neighboring republic, it is necessary to travel through Russia.

The path of several hours now stretched out for the whole day. Moreover, the basis for entering the LPR or DPR can be either registration on the territory, or the presence of close relatives. Many have lost their business because of these restrictions. Someone is forced to spend thousands of rubles and days of travel to visit loved ones.



Officially, the reason for such strict restrictions was the difference in the approach to combating the coronavirus pandemic. Specifically, the crossing of the border with Ukraine. If in the LPR, with registration in the republic and a passed test, anyone can cross the line of demarcation, then in the DPR a special permit is required for this.

Thousands of people travel to the LPR to Ukraine and back. In the DPR, there are tens or hundreds. However, the fight against the pandemic and the different attitude towards trips to the territory of a military enemy, as an excuse for erecting an insurmountable barrier, do not look very convincing.

Distant relatives?


Checkpoints, customs, passport control, inspections and even duties appeared between the LPR and the DPR back in 2015.

At that time, this measure made sense - the phase of active hostilities had recently ended, the situation in the republics was difficult. Control measures aimed at combating Ukrainian DRGs, smuggling flows, illegal traffic weapons were important. However, the matter was by no means limited to the border or customs duties. (According to the government of the LPR - barrage. Ostensibly necessary to protect the interests of local producers).

With outwardly identical architecture, common enemy and similar conditions, already in 2016-2017 it became noticeable that the republics were not developing in unison. And over time they become more and more out of sync.

This is especially noticeable in the field of the regulatory framework - in Donetsk and Lugansk, in fact, they live according to different rules, laws and codes.

For example, the LPR has had its own administrative code for a long time. And in the DPR, until 2020, they used the Ukrainian admin code. Yes, and the currently existing document clearly requires revision.

Unfortunately, differences can be found in the most unexpected spheres of life of the republics, which is especially evident in the measures to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Even communal tariffs in the LDNR are different, although both republics receive the same gas from Russia.

It is clear that neither circumstances nor control structures would allow Donetsk and Lugansk to go too far in different directions. However, the desire to live apart is obvious.

Basically, interaction between the republics is limited to cultural events and stillborn memoranda of intent. It seems that the coronavirus has become a convenient excuse to finally realize the old dream of Luhansk “independence”.

Miracles of mentality


To some extent, Luhansk's fears of being absorbed by Donetsk are understandable.

In all respects, the specific political, media and economic weight of the DPR is greater than that of the LPR. Therefore, it is not surprising if the Donetsk elites try to subjugate the Luhansk. Moreover, it is by no means a fact that this merger will be for the good: Donetsk power circles are less consolidated than Luhansk ones. And the intraspecific struggle for power in the DPR clearly weakens the republic and can negatively affect the LPR as well.

At the same time, the memories of the arts of the Donetsk elites during the reign of the late Zakharchenko are still fresh, when the grain harvest "disappeared", then the prices for fuels and lubricants soared before sowing. Meanwhile, the head himself, together with Prilepin, was building "socialism". The LPR lacked its own "miracles". But Donetsk was clearly in the lead in this regard.

On the other hand, the fact that the Luhansk and Donetsk "elites" are trying to play solo parts causes some bewilderment.

In 2014, we survived thanks to the feat of the militias, "vacationers" and "North Wind". Today, the People's Militia is holding back the enemy together, clearly coordinating actions.

The economy is subsidized, to put it mildly. And it is kept, it is known, on whose help. A variety of structures work quietly and interact normally. Only not homegrown "elites" who see an opportunity to show ambitions and artificially divide the republics.

What is this, if not the quintessence of the Ukrainian mentality, expressed in the proverb?

"Where are three Ukrainians, there are two hetmans and one traitor?"

You can't go on like this


It is clear that the situation is at an impasse. And it must change.

Since 2016, there has been a customs office between the LDNR. For a year now, there has been a border between the republics, which has hit hard on business and made life difficult for tens of thousands of residents of the LPNR.

What's next?

What other innovations should the population of the republics expect?

What other innovations are to be expected from officials who are ready to neutralize the very idea of ​​Novorossiya for the sake of illusory power and access to financial flows?

Not to mention such trifles as economic interests and the interests of the population.

Undoubtedly, the republics need to be united.

It is not necessary to subordinate the LPR to Donetsk officials, who can hardly cope with their own periphery, and if the estates are doubled, they may completely lose the ability to control anything.

There are probably many solutions available for this particular situation. And each of them begins with the suppression of the disproportionate ambitions of local "independent" rulers.

However, even if the decision on the unification of the republics is made tomorrow, one should not expect that everything will go easily and smoothly.

The same legislation will have to be unified for a fairly long period of time. However, the sooner this work begins, the better.

And it should start with ensuring the freedom of transport communication between the DPR and LPR.
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  1. +7
    4 March 2021 18: 08
    "Where are three Ukrainians, there are two hetmans and one traitor?"
    Not true - one Ukrainian is one Ukrainian, two are a partisan detachment, three are a detachment and a traitor.
    1. +5
      4 March 2021 19: 58
      The situation is unique and it is obvious that there are still no developments in effective lawmaking, executive power and local self-government. For example, the People's Council of the DPR employs 100 deputies, while in the LPR there are 50 ...
      1. -5
        4 March 2021 20: 32
        Quote: Terenin
        The situation is unique and it is obvious that there are still no developments in effective lawmaking, executive power and local self-government. For example, the People's Council of the DPR employs 100 deputies, while in the LPR there are 50 ...

        While there are developments in action for the future Gennady .. The DPR LPR is a "probe" in the future .. There is no special cohesion, of course (especially when the commanders of the militia fired their eternal memory to the peasants ..) But if something happens, I think the mechanism of the new government will work clearly on mobilization , resistance, etc. Let's wish them good luck in their difficult struggle on the front lines for Russia and all of us .. hi

        Let's break through only all together ..
        1. +2
          4 March 2021 20: 36
          Quote: Minxerc
          Let's break through only all together.

          Of course, buddy.
          You are welcome hi
      2. dSK
        +2
        5 March 2021 10: 49
        Quote: Terenin
        no developments yet

        Tsereushniki "worked" more systematically and successfully than the GRU and the FSB.
        Yesterday the FSB "strengthened" Putin by adding the post of deputy, represented by Sergei Korolev ...
        1. +3
          5 March 2021 22: 20
          Quote from dsk
          Tsereushniki "worked" more systematically and successfully than the GRU and the FSB.

          In the LDNR? It is not clear what are you talking about?
          1. dSK
            +1
            5 March 2021 22: 52
            Available for a year the border between the republics, which hit business hard and made life difficult for tens of thousands of LPNR residents.
    2. +9
      4 March 2021 20: 35
      two are a partisan unit, three are a unit and a traitor.

      Even the late Chornovol used to say that there was a mistake in this anecdote - there was not one traitor in such a detachment .. And he knew his fellow tribesmen well ..
      1. +3
        4 March 2021 22: 15
        Quote: paul3390
        two are a partisan unit, three are a unit and a traitor.

        Even the late Chornovol used to say that there was a mistake in this anecdote - there was not one traitor in such a detachment .. And he knew his fellow tribesmen well ..

        Well, Pavel ... summed up !!!! lol
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    4. +1
      5 March 2021 14: 27
      sergey
      Let's remember how it all started there. The fodder base of the outskirts began to shrink, so the local oligarchs took care of protecting their interests. Now there, in addition to the oligarchs, there are many who are interested in RUSSIA taking them under protection and food, but always on their terms. Words that okraintsev that LPR-DPR only for intrigue, and of justification of requirements.
    5. +1
      7 March 2021 20: 01
      ... one is a wonderful person, a wonderful owner,
      two are three get-men,
      three - partisan detachment, where three traitors working for eight reconnaissance
  2. +2
    4 March 2021 18: 18
    How is Exupery doing? If the stars are lit, then someone needs it! So it is here! Our smart Wishlist is clearly not in the ears of God!
    1. +3
      4 March 2021 21: 24
      Mayakovsky
      1. 0
        4 March 2021 23: 36
        I confess, I'm sorry! Although, that one is also about arson!
  3. +7
    4 March 2021 18: 18
    Unhappy apart: why the republics of Donbass fenced off from each other
    recourse Well, it's just that the gentlemen will never decide who should bow to whom, and the people are silent. request
    1. -3
      4 March 2021 18: 29
      Quote: Mavrikiy

      "Where are three Ukrainians, there are two hetmans and one traitor?"
      Not true - one Ukrainian is one Ukrainian, two are a partisan detachment, three are a detachment and a traitor.

      113262а (Vladimir)
      How is Exupery doing? If the stars are lit, then someone needs it! So it is here! Our smart Wishlist is clearly not in the ears of God!


      Mavrikiy
      Unhappy apart: why the republics of Donbass fenced off from each other

      Well, it's just that the lords will never decide who the clan is to whom


      And no one thought that this division is given initially to complicate Kiev's maneuver in the negotiation process, did you visit?
      1. -5
        4 March 2021 18: 37
        Quote: Insurgent


        And no one thought .... did not visit?

        Thoughts, social networks do not visit ... here herd thinking. Moreover, for the same picture, there may be diametrically opposite thinking of the same characters - it all depends on the presentation of information.
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      2. +9
        4 March 2021 18: 41
        Quote: Insurgent
        And the thought that this division was originally set to complicate Kiev's maneuver in the negotiation process did not visit anyone?

        No, because a thought sucked out of the finger remains it. request
        1. +1
          4 March 2021 18: 55
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          No, because a thought sucked out of the finger remains it.

          So sucked Yes And this is a fact, and a fact repeatedly confirmed by the actions of Moscow.
          1. +1
            4 March 2021 18: 58
            Quote: Insurgent
            So it is sucked. And this is a fact, and a fact has been repeatedly confirmed by the actions of Moscow.

            What is there in Moscow, and how many, who has it and for what purpose? It defies definition. request
            1. -1
              4 March 2021 19: 08
              Quote: Mavrikiy
              What is there in Moscow, and how many, who has it and for what purpose? It defies definition.

              Why do you have so many "non-crust"?

              You would simply assume that it is more difficult for Kiev to maneuver in negotiations between two (and in fact three) parties, while we beat them with one single fist made up of the 1st and 2nd corps ...
          2. +2
            5 March 2021 00: 43
            Quote: Insurgent
            And this is a fact, and a fact repeatedly confirmed by the actions of Moscow.

            fact is a fact that cannot be doubted
      3. +14
        4 March 2021 19: 05
        Quote: Insurgent
        And the thought that this division was originally set to complicate Kiev's maneuver in the negotiation process did not visit anyone?

        And what helped you? Another HPP with an indistinct result?
        All these maneuvers in the negotiation process look somehow strange. Especially looking at the result: the LDNR became anti-advertising of the "Russian world", Ukraine is building up the combat capability of its army, the People's Militia of the LDNR is being slowly knocked out, Russian oligarchs are supplying fuel to both sides of the conflict, etc., etc.
        This is hardly a success.
        1. +8
          4 March 2021 20: 15
          Supply of fuel to the outskirts ... for tanks including - THIS IS A SUPER MOVE !!! This is unthinkable - unpushable! However, Capitalism is capitalism. This is money! then .... quietly .... politics ....
          1. +6
            4 March 2021 21: 53
            If only fuel! Here, last year in Ukraine, a scandal arose and quickly subsided: a group of officials and businessmen established smuggling supplies. to Ukraine from RF spare parts for the repair of military equipment! That is, Russian oligarchs not only fill up Ukrainian tanks, but also provide them with spare parts !.
            It remains only to establish the provision of the Ukrainian army with ammunition from the Russian Federation and there will be a complete set. All inclusive, so to speak!
            The capitalist's dream: to supply all combatants in an endless war. And this dream somehow fits very well with the Minsk Agreements, which allow an endless undeclared war - and trade is not prohibited (war has not been declared), and a guaranteed constant demand for fuel, spare parts, ammunition ... but for everything!
      4. 0
        4 March 2021 19: 16
        I read with interest your comments, especially when it comes to the situation there, with you. I have little of my own reliable information, so it's always interesting what you write.
      5. bar
        +2
        4 March 2021 19: 21
        Quote: Insurgent
        And the thought that this division was originally set to complicate Kiev's maneuver in the negotiation process did not visit anyone?

        Did Kiev have an idea to conduct the negotiation process? request
        1. +2
          4 March 2021 19: 23
          Quote: bar
          Did Kiev have an idea to conduct the negotiation process?

          Of course not. But I have to, because they were brought to this by boilers ...
          1. 0
            4 March 2021 20: 17
            minus you see boiler warriors. laughing "Boilers" is what a Word! The most powerful.
      6. +3
        4 March 2021 20: 02
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: Mavrikiy

        "Where are three Ukrainians, there are two hetmans and one traitor?"
        Not true - one Ukrainian is one Ukrainian, two are a partisan detachment, three are a detachment and a traitor.

        113262а (Vladimir)
        How is Exupery doing? If the stars are lit, then someone needs it! So it is here! Our smart Wishlist is clearly not in the ears of God!


        Mavrikiy
        Unhappy apart: why the republics of Donbass fenced off from each other

        Well, it's just that the lords will never decide who the clan is to whom


        And no one thought that this division is given initially to complicate Kiev's maneuver in the negotiation process, did you visit?

        I do not presume to judge, but I argue.
        Perhaps the main thing is that, given the same initial data, Luhansk constantly succeeds in what Donetsk fails: to fulfill social obligations, to contain prices, to avoid predatory extortions from businesses (already frail).
      7. +1
        5 March 2021 00: 08
        If at the expense of my words, then my grandfather told me, and he was born in 903. So this is originally the beginning of the last century? Okay, he told me this in the 70s ... I don't think he was thinking about complicating the maneuver. :)
      8. 0
        9 March 2021 10: 03
        So the division in this case could be made purely formal. In reality, one Novorossiya, formally separate LPR and DPR.
        1. +1
          9 March 2021 10: 06
          Quote: rait
          So the division in this case could be made purely formal. In reality, one Novorossiya, formally separate LPR and DPR.

          It really is. Just don't read Yegor Makhov in the morning ...
  4. -9
    4 March 2021 18: 29
    The impression is that Yegor believes that only the republics will unite and all problems will be solved! They will become invincible, prosperous economically and socially, subsidies will appear, world recognition ...
    1. +17
      4 March 2021 18: 38
      Let them continue apart, do you think it turns out?
      Strength is in unity.
      "Where there is unity, there is victory." Publius Cyrus
      1. +3
        4 March 2021 18: 49
        Quote: WHAT IS
        Let them continue to be apart, do you think it turns out? Strength is in unity.
        "Where there is unity, there is victory." Publius Cyrus

        Undoubtedly - power is in unity Yes
        But who can say that the DPR and LPR, respectively, the 1st and 2nd AK with a single command in the city "N" - are acting in isolation?
        1. +1
          4 March 2021 21: 47
          I try not to read Egorka. I can write a comment for which I will be "banned" forever. "Dill" campaign.
      2. +4
        4 March 2021 18: 50
        Quote: WHAT IS
        Strength is in unity.
        "Where there is unity, there is victory." Publius Cyrus

        You are right, but the mentality is different. Donetsk ones were initially set up: "Go ahead! Hurray! Let's revive the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic! Give socialism, down with the bourgeoisie!" (I'm exaggerating, of course, but still.
        And Luhansk residents are more like this: "You do it there, and I will stand aside and see what comes of it"
        Therefore, there is no unity.
        But this is my opinion.
        1. +1
          4 March 2021 18: 58
          Quote: Egoza
          You are right, but the mentality is different. Donetsk ones were initially set up: "Go ahead! Hurray! Let's revive the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic! Give socialism, down with the bourgeoisie!" (I'm exaggerating, of course, but still.
          And Luhansk residents are more like this: "You do it there, and I will stand aside and see what comes of it"
          Therefore, there is no unity.

          Quote: Egoza
          But this is my opinion.


          And it is not true, due to ignorance of the subject.

          1. +11
            4 March 2021 19: 39
            Quote: Insurgent
            And it is not true, due to ignorance of the subject.

            Bro, you still didn’t understand anything ..., you were betrayed and sold, while utilizing the most odious ones, and the machine gunners with a couple of concussions will be given a pension of 4-5rf pieces of wood, and then they will be given back to kaklandia, but with fat.
            Tell me, what did Pasha Dremov fight for?
            PySy. only without superfluous and personal pathos.
            1. +8
              4 March 2021 21: 17
              Quote: Stroporez
              What did Pasha Dremov fight for?

              In an interview with Rosbalt, Dremov said that he was a supporter of nationalization and "socially just monarchy".
              So what was he fighting for? Probably for the fact that Ukraine would be pro-Western and hostile to Russia? wassat
        2. +7
          4 March 2021 20: 18
          Quote: Egoza
          And Luhansk residents are more like this: "You do it there, and I will stand aside and see what comes of it"
          Therefore, there is no unity.
          But this is my opinion.


          I think everything is more prosaic and simpler.

          The confrontation between "Donetsk" and "Luhansk" has been going on since the 90s. At the same time, the "Donetsk" always treated the "Luhansk" as young and helpless brothers and carried out a large-scale expansion into their area.
          The "fattest" industrial enterprises were taken away from the "Luhansk" - "Krasnodonugol" (the only company in the Luhansk region that extracts coking coal), the Sverdlovsk Machine-Building Plant (produces mining and other equipment), the Luhansk TPP (the main enterprise of the city of Shchastya, which is part of composition of Lugansk), Lugansk brewery.
          Dissatisfied "Luhansk" was given a periodic demonstration flogging. Suffice it to recall the personnel purges carried out in 2007 by the "Donetsk" minister of the coal industry Sergei Tulub in the Luhansk region. Five general directors of the holding companies "Luganskugol", "Lisichanskugol", "Donbasanthracite", "Rovenkianthracite", "Sverdlovanthracite" and the head of the directorate of "Luganskugol restructuring" sharply wanted to resign "of their own accord" - and all were "replaced".
          In the same 2007, Yanukovych, being the prime minister, generally decided to liquidate the Lugansk region by joining Donetsk. Did not have time.
          With the return of Yanukovych in 2010, "Luhansk" in general "drove under the bench."
          And then 2014! Completely unexpected, "Lugansk" got the opportunity to "throw off the yoke." Long-awaited freedom!
          About voluntary unification is too early. But, we know who can unite.

          You can't change everything at once.
          By the way, along the way, some of the actions of the Crimean authorities still have a character that discredits Russia.
        3. +5
          4 March 2021 20: 21
          Wrong. It is the same for ALL! Neither the LPR nor the DPR stood and are not standing on the sidelines! For the mentality here is 100 poods the same! Well, there is in the family not without ...
    2. +6
      4 March 2021 18: 43
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The impression is that Yegor believes that only the republics will unite and all problems will be solved! They will become invincible, prosperous economically and socially, subsidies will appear, world recognition ...

      Egor is not only a madman who does not think that his writings do not contribute to stabilization, but on the contrary, harms the process, but he also changes his worldview like a weather vane under the slightest breath of political wind.
  5. +3
    4 March 2021 18: 47
    All this is still dust and flour, when the whole story with the banderlog ends, when the denazification and the decisions of the tribunal, possibly the Hague, and maybe Donetsk, will be carried out, then the question will arise - what, who, where and how. Until then, all this is talk in favor of the poor. We may not survive. what
    1. +7
      4 March 2021 19: 42
      The tribunal must be Slavic.
      The Nazis bombed Slavyansk first.
      1. +3
        4 March 2021 20: 23
        The tribunal should be - just not eider. let them go quietly there. Any Russian tribunal, Slavyansk, Donetsk, Lugansk .........
  6. +8
    4 March 2021 19: 04
    as they write in the article ... a variety of structures work quietly and interact .. so it is even very good living in fact in wartime and in a vacuum of uncertainty, when there Russia will return Novorossia to Great Russia. And the fact that, it turns out, the oligarchs and those close to the authorities in the DPR and LPR are already creating obstacles to the unification of the republics into Novorossia, so this is nothing new. Their brothers from the oligarchy and those close to power in Great Russia prevent Great Russia from recognizing the LPR and DNR and returning Novorossia to Great Russia. There is still hope that among the structures that calmly work and interact between the two Republics, there is both the army and the people's militia. By the way, there is hope that Great Russia does not need a truncated type of New Russia, but in full within the boundaries of the regions of the times of the USSR. So everything will be decided not by the oligarchs, but by Shoigu and Putin in Great Russia and the commanders of the people's militia in New Russia ... And this should be an indicative lesson of Bandera's Ukraine. Because you have to end it once and for all time.
  7. +4
    4 March 2021 19: 43
    Well, as always - if there are specific princes, then d.b. and their destinies. And these princelings pour water on the mill of their common enemy. Straight some kind of 15th century, not 21. Foolish specific. fool
    1. +1
      5 March 2021 07: 29
      Therefore, it was necessary to unite Russia with fire and sword, and not only Russia. And the current liberals, on the other hand, shout with bad voices about the violation of human rights.
  8. +5
    4 March 2021 19: 48
    And that very "feeding hand" cannot properly "shake" the snickering bureaucrats and make them work according to the agreed rules ...
  9. +7
    4 March 2021 19: 53
    everyone considers himself a king .. albeit a shtetl. why not join them. after all, their tasks and goals are similar? or like V.I. Lenin?
    - "Before uniting, and in order to unite, we must first decisively and definitely dissociate ourselves. Otherwise, our union would be only a fiction, covering up the existing disorder and preventing its radical elimination."
    1. 0
      4 March 2021 21: 54
      So far there is no task to unite the DPR and LPR, or rather, this is a big headache for Putin. Unification, not unification, losses to love. In 2014, it seemed that everything would be scattered across the regions. But alas, the comrades from the west fit in. I think that while our regions Kharkiv, Odessa, Uzhgorod will not grow weary, until the local aligarchs, milioners begin to play their policy, a serious game against Kiev, which carries rejection and the inability to get along with it. Having rebels is probably a very smart decision.
  10. 0
    4 March 2021 21: 26
    They will live, but love ..... alas .......
  11. +1
    4 March 2021 21: 43
    Seeing who is the "author" - the desire to read disappears. "Everything is bad in the LDNR."
  12. -4
    4 March 2021 21: 50
    I could not resist, I will comment.
    Some regular propagandists here tell me that they are the flesh of the "flesh of the Russian people," and you start talking about the Ukrainian mentality. As it does not agree with the "general line." laughing
    1. +1
      7 March 2021 21: 45
      Quote: Dimid
      Some regular propagandists here tell me that they are the flesh of the "flesh of the Russian people," and you start talking about the Ukrainian mentality. As it does not agree with the "general line".

      everything is simple.
      If something is good and success and struggle, it’s because Russians, primordially Russians, are all of us.
      If something is bad, it is Ukrainian.
      Well this is the same principle of dividing the natives of Ukrainian lands in history. If they are good and iconic, such as Korolev, Glushko, etc., then they are all Russian / Soviet. If Mazepa or Hrushevsky are entirely Ukrainians, although there is a disagreement that there was no Ukraine, but if something bad, then Ukraine was.
      In general, the propaganda fork is common. Our good, bad everything is from Ukraine.
      The article is the same - it would seem the Russian world, everything is not like that of the "fascists". There should be an ideal. And not .. And Ukraine has made a border for them, and the mentality of Ukraine is leading and Ukraine is making a mess with them. And she changes the curators, and she also makes a cunning plan. And she also proclaims a member of the Russian Federation and officially refuses, it is just that Peskov forgets to admit that he is Ukrainian and work in the office of the Ukrainian president.
      I am surprised that the creation of a gray zone with shelling, without a future, is still being presented as the Russian world. Moreover, it is proclaimed that all the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine are eager to dive into such a world. And they still threaten that they will come with him to Kiev / Lvov / Kharkov and so on .. this is really the toughest threat. From which people will really defend even "their own hut on the edge."
      For 7 years the Russians themselves are already mostly dissatisfied with this cunning plan and do not want to accept new "Ukrainians" in the composition. They say that Crimea is now a little expensive. I read on the YAP situation the exact opposite of the 2014/15 sample.
      Would make a showcase from the LDNR, then they would have won the war outright. Without any attacks or threats. And so even the injection of money into Crimea does not give the desired showcase. And here, from the gray zone, there is such anti-advertising that even impoverished Ukraine seems to be a paradise without shelling and higher salaries.
      Expensive in general. Ambition. And forceful measures will only cause further deterioration of the previous situation.
  13. +2
    4 March 2021 21: 55
    And what were they waiting for? There are articles showing that this is an artificial bureaucratic formation. Buffer zone.
    And so they will unite and not nat.
    The times of the Russian spring were covered. They rip through - polite people will come and take away, like the LPR chief, in an unknown direction ...
  14. +4
    4 March 2021 22: 14
    All this is very sad, the bigwigs are measured with personal belongings, and ordinary people suffer, and even in the conditions of the blockade and the military danger from the Banderaites.
  15. -1
    5 March 2021 04: 19
    YES! What a news! surprised and upset! did not expect that there is no unity between the republics! what do you divide that! ??? come to your senses! money will ruin! will devour you separately! or all the written lies? I want to believe in the unity of the republics!
  16. +3
    5 March 2021 09: 22
    Any elite lives by the principle "it is better to be the first in the village than the second in Rome." Nobody in Donetsk or Lugansk will give up their little "independence" for any advantages in the economy, security, etc. Now they are little "bosses", that is, the owners, and in the case of unification, accession, someone will have to be content with the role of simply regional official, subordinate, to go under someone's hand. And if you have already tasted power, albeit small and by no means absolute, you absolutely do not want to fit into the vertical, except on the highest step (and there is not enough room for everyone).
    1. 0
      7 March 2021 20: 49
      Donetsk bandits from the station gimmicks, like Akhmetov, were bolder, greedier and bloodier ..
      They put their own people, led by Yanukovosch and Azarov, into the Ukrainian government and crushed everyone, including Luhansk ones, buying up Kuchma-prezikaet and blood-sucking-ruled Ukraine for seven years.
      Their influence has not disappeared anywhere in Donbass. Akhmetov manages to sit on all the chairs, influencing both the Donbass and, not as before, Kiev, which finally fell under the Zapadenskaya Lvov-Vinnytsia occupation, which is already twice as long as the previous occupations of the Nazis and Petliurists
      We should start with real nationalization, de-oligarchization of the struggle against their gangs, which also have not evaporated and are the "fifth column", which, in the event of an inevitable aggravation of the conflict, can become a "Trojan horse" in the rear of the republics. After all, the terrorist attacks against the leaders of the DPR and LPR were probably carried out with their participation.
  17. 0
    7 March 2021 19: 58
    The idiotic ambitions of the native leaders
    + initially, the competition of oligarchophrenics since the mid-90s, with the prezik number 2 kuchma seized the economy of Donbass;

    + the absence of strong authorities, authoritative leaders, and intelligible ideology in the republics.

    With Kuchma: "Ukraine is not Russia",
    now "Donbass is not Ukraine" - AND EVERYTHING
  18. +1
    7 March 2021 20: 28
    to be honest ... The further in time (from 2014) - the less I understand: what comes from the word "GENERAL" ...
  19. 0
    10 March 2021 19: 59
    The external enemy, of course, benefits from this, the agents of influence of the US and NATO are working successfully. Republics on their way to self-destruction.

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