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Military supplies to Ukraine from the US for $ 1,5 billion: aid or disposal

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In 2020, US military supplies to Ukraine amounted to $ 250 million, and by March of this year, their volume - half of this amount - $ 125 million.


In previous periods, if you count from 2016, Kiev consistently received from the United States weapons, military equipment and equipment worth from 200 to 272 million dollars a year. Of course, these amounts cannot be compared with military supplies, say, to Israel or Saudi Arabia, where the bill goes to tens of billions of dollars, but for the Ukrainian budget 250 million a year is solid money. And if we take into account the entire period from 2016, then a total of $ 1,5 billion will accumulate. The amount is considerable. So what was supplied with this money for the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Is it worth it?

Ukraine and American military aid


Of course, part of the American military supplies goes, as it were, free of charge or for symbolic money, but the other part goes at clearly inflated prices. In addition, products are often supplied that were created back in the 70s and 80s of the last century, so it is not clear what these supplies are in essence. What is it - the help of the Ukrainian army or the disposal of its spent American "trash" ...

It is quite possible that instead of purchasing American products, Kiev could find alternative options that would help it strengthen its military power cheaper and more efficiently. This can be, for example, setting up our own production, purchasing military products from other suppliers and modernizing equipment already in service on our own.

On the other hand, the issue of the amount of supplies for half a billion annually was initially discussed, but they decided to stop at 250 million dollars.

Of course, none of the Ukrainian officials will even hint at the inexpediency of some supplies of weapons and equipment from the United States. Kiev can only express "sincere gratitude" to Washington for its help in the fight against "Russian aggression." And no one has canceled the corruption component there either and is clearly not going to.

Lethal weapon for Ukraine


It should be noted that most of the American military products are not lethal weapons. For example, of the $ 2019 million planned for 250 deliveries, US-made lethal weapons accounted for $ 50 million. Moreover, Kiev presents it as a great victory. Suffice it to recall how much noise there was in the Ukrainian press about the supply of American Javelin ATGMs to Ukraine.

Military supplies to Ukraine from the US for $ 1,5 billion: aid or disposal

It is possible that Ukraine has to purchase certain types of weapons exclusively from NATO countries, since Kiev simply cannot refuse Washington. For example, in 2018, on the Ukrainian TV channel UA: TV, information flashed about a possible purchase of Canadian sniper rifles for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but after that they somehow stopped talking about it. But it is known that the Ukrainian military use American Barrett rifles.


At the same time, supplies of lethal weapons and ammunition from Poland, the Czech Republic or Lithuania, which are no less significant than supplies from the United States, are proceeding calmly, without unnecessary noise and pomp.

It is no secret that the lion's share of the armaments of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are of the Soviet model. They were made either in the USSR, or after its collapse, but using the same technologies. The Ukrainian Armed Forces still uses Soviet shells, mines and cartridges from their own or Eastern European warehouses. Ukraine has not yet managed to establish its full-fledged production of ammunition of normal quality and in sufficient quantity. The United States and NATO are in no hurry to help Kiev solve this problem.

Americans don't need a strong Ukrainian army


One gets the impression that by supplying weapons and equipment to Ukraine, the United States is not trying to strengthen the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but is simply solving completely different tasks. One of them is PR in terms of statements about "democratic support for Ukraine." If only the project called "anti-Russia" continued to operate, but the US also does not intend to arm Ukraine to the teeth. Used rubber boats, decommissioned boats, dressing materials, walkie-talkies are enough, as they say in Washington.

It seems that the United States is not interested in the ongoing sluggish conflict in the Donbas escalating into a large-scale, but short-term (for obvious reasons) military clash. Washington, if it needs it, could well strengthen the Armed Forces by investing money in their modernization and training. But he doesn't. More precisely, he pretends that he is very seriously busy with this.

Of course, the factor that the level of corruption in Ukraine, as already noted, is very high also plays a role. And investing in a corrupt country is almost the same as throwing it away. But it's not only that. The reason, perhaps, is that the United States is still satisfied with such a balance of power in the region, and they do not want to change it.

The aforementioned American supplies for the Ukrainian Navy can also serve as an illustration of this.

United States and Navy of the Armed Forces


Washington paid particular attention to the Ukrainian Navy after a provocation staged by Ukrainian sailors in the Kerch Strait in November 2018.


Actually, decommissioned boats of the Island type of its Coast Guard, built in the late 80s and early 90s, he began to deliver to Kiev even a little earlier. But last summer, the US State Department approved the delivery of 16 modern Mark VI boats and other products worth $ 600 million, more than double the average annual military supply. This transaction is considered the largest in the entire history military-technical cooperation between Kiev and Washington. The boats are modernly equipped and entered the US Navy in 2016. They are designed to patrol river and coastal sea areas.

When deciding to supply these boats to Kiev, the US Department of Defense noted that it would help Ukraine better defend its territorial waters, but would not change the military balance in the area.

Earlier, shortly before the incident off the coast of Crimea, the United States offered Kiev to acquire two old frigates of the Oliver Hazard Perry class, which were included in the Surplus Property program. In other words, they can no longer be used, there is nowhere to throw away, and it is expensive to recycle. It is not hard to guess that Washington's proposal has nothing to do with its concern for Ukraine's defenses.

By the way, at one time the Ukrainian SSR was one of the leaders in shipbuilding, moreover, in the world. Various types of warships were built in the republic, including aircraft-carrying cruisers. And if the United States were really concerned about strengthening the military power of Ukraine, in particular at sea, it would not supply its new and decommissioned products, but would help restore the shipbuilding industry.


It turns out that Kiev buys from the United States not what it needs, but what the Americans need to sell. Indeed, instead of colossal spending on American boats, they could invest in the restoration and development of the once powerful Ukrainian military-industrial complex, modernization of the still Soviet military equipment.

But, on the other hand, for the same Donbass it is good that this is not being done. After all, after 2014, Ukraine has become a quasi-state from which you can expect anything.
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  1. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 March 2021 17: 50
    +1
    Indeed, instead of colossal spending on American boats, they could invest in the restoration and development of the once powerful Ukrainian military-industrial complex.

    Why upgrade, if you can sniff, for good dollars. Investing money in the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is a waste of money. Selling your unnecessary junk is a profit for the United States.
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 2 March 2021 18: 01
      -9
      Even if the same "old stuff" is qualitatively superior to the existing Soviet counterparts?
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 2 March 2021 18: 05
        +1
        Quote: Dimid
        Even if the same "old stuff" is qualitatively superior to the existing Soviet counterparts?

        Okay, three dozen "Javelins" and two dozen sniper rifles, but what "Soviet counterparts" are superior to rubber boats, bandages, two decommissioned boats from the United States and British ambulances from 1948 developed by Latvia?
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 2 March 2021 18: 21
          -9
          Smiled, you can immediately see where you get the information from lol
          Counter question: - tell me the Russian or Soviet analogue of boats, superior to the same "Zodiacs"?
          Better to consult moremans
          1. Volodin
            Volodin 2 March 2021 18: 39
            0
            Quote: Dimid
            Smiled

            This is please - a smile, they say, prolongs life.
            Quote: Dimid
            Counter question: - tell me the Russian or Soviet analogue of boats, superior to the same "Zodiacs"?

            So in the article it is just about the fact that Ukraine itself at one time could produce frigates and cruisers ... And now other people's "Zodiacs" are the ultimate dream. Here at least "consult with the Moremans", but a fact is a fact ...
            1. Dimide
              Dimide 2 March 2021 18: 48
              -8
              Can you please tell me who was the main customer of frigates and cruisers and how many ships were sold to foreign customers?
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 2 March 2021 19: 34
              +1
              Quote: Volodin
              that Ukraine itself at one time could

              I could not! it was produced by the USSR with localization in Ukraine
              1. antivirus
                antivirus 2 March 2021 21: 40
                +1
                Kohly are doing everything right. they're happy. and you are jealous. they are heading for a bright democratic future. and the Russian Federation is marking time in the past. builds its own frigates and nuclear submarines, but we must take the best from life.
                1. Dimide
                  Dimide 2 March 2021 21: 57
                  -10%
                  You martyrs, measure your military might against an equal opponent.
                  It's not for nothing that your helmsman sends you straight to heaven
            3. Korax71
              Korax71 2 March 2021 22: 34
              0
              "zodiac" for many years the world leader in the production of PVC boats, RIB. in this case FC470 is an excellent device even for fresh water, even for sea water. and from us they are purchased by private individuals, though the price tag is catastrophically inhumane wassat if retail then somewhere 1.2 mln.
            4. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 5 March 2021 10: 13
              +2
              Quote: Volodin
              And now other people's "Zodiacs" are the ultimate dream. Here at least "consult with the Moremans", but the fact is the fact ...

              Whatever you call "Zodiac" or "sireder", and as always comes out, a worn tunic from someone else's shoulder, called "secondhand".
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 March 2021 18: 06
        +1
        Quote: Dimid
        Even if the same "old stuff" is qualitatively superior to the existing Soviet counterparts?

        Whatever it is, you still have to pay dollars. It is necessary to produce our own, and not to buy "God forbid that we do not like it."
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 2 March 2021 21: 09
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Dimid
          Even if the same "old stuff" is qualitatively superior to the existing Soviet counterparts?

          Whatever it is, you still have to pay dollars. It is necessary to produce our own, and not to buy "God forbid that we do not like it."

          The degradation of the Ukrainian state in all its glory, the military "second hand", moreover, and in debt, they are already a joy.
          Meanwhile, Iran, which is under sanctions, is replenishing its mosquito fleet with 350 of its own construction.

      3. Baloo
        Baloo 2 March 2021 19: 30
        0
        Dimid (Dimid)
        Even if the same "old stuff" is qualitatively superior to the existing Soviet counterparts?


        Yeah, exactly, but all consumables together:
        Kiev, military parade.
        Two military attaches are watching the passing equipment.
        One: "Oh, this is a demonstration of the strength of a young democracy!"
        Another: "No, just a pre-sale preparation!"
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 2 March 2021 19: 48
          -4
          Developed sense of humor, a sign of intelligence
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 2 March 2021 21: 09
            0
            Quote: Dimid
            Developed sense of humor, a sign of intelligence

            Kaneshna! And this is true:
            On February 23, the first batch of the Indian vaccine CoviShield in the amount of 500 thousand doses arrived in Ukraine. The Ukrainian authorities call the drug "AstraZeneca", however, according to the American media, this is a vaccine for "poor countries". It is reported that the study of the vaccine has not yet been completed, it is not approved by the WHO, causes multiple side effects, in particular, vomiting, diarrhea; its efficiency is 63%. Nevertheless, the President of Ukraine said that the imported vaccine is "the best in the world." However, contrary to his promise, he did not get vaccinated with the military.
            By the way, here in the internet infa was that not all military personnel benefited from the vaccine, some did not survive this happiness, the Indian vaccine belay
            1. Dimide
              Dimide 2 March 2021 21: 29
              -3
              I'm embarrassed to ask where do you get the information from?
              Zelensky today in the Luhansk region in a military hospital was vaccinated against Covid19. Information from the official Twitter: - "I was vaccinated against Covid-19. I did it on the front line with our soldiers as commander-in-chief. The same Oxford / AstraZeneca (Covishield) from India, who was delivered 1st to Ukraine received by millions of people in the world. The vaccine will allow us to live again without restrictions, "Zelensky wrote.
              1. Dimide
                Dimide 2 March 2021 22: 27
                -5
                I will add that this vaccine for poor Covishield is being bought by the "poor" Canada entering the G7 (info from Trudeau)
                1. Baloo
                  Baloo 3 March 2021 07: 20
                  +4
                  Quote: Dimid
                  I will add that this vaccine for poor Covishield is being bought by the "poor" Canada entering the G7 (info from Trudeau)

                  WHO, like the Lancet, recognized Sputnik as the most effective and affordable vaccine, because it was developed on the basis of previous vaccines from sars and mers. The satellite belongs to the state, therefore Russia allows the production of the satellite in other countries. Russia saved the world from poliomyelitis, Africa from Ebola, now it is saving the world from covid-19. Already 65 countries are using the satellite or have expressed a desire to buy. Personal experience: I'm 63, more than 10 years old. Diabetes mellitus type 2 (with all its complications so far compensated), hypothyroidism, hypertension. Yesterday I got my second vaccination Sputnik. All the rules, although I am at risk for complications.
                  1. Dimide
                    Dimide 3 March 2021 08: 38
                    -3
                    I'm glad you're all right.
                    I'm 50, had a mild illness (I did not do the test, but the taste disappeared), I am not going to get vaccinated
                    1. Baloo
                      Baloo 3 March 2021 10: 51
                      +2
                      Quote: Dimid
                      I'm 50, had a mild illness (I did not do the test, but the taste disappeared), I am not going to get vaccinated

                      Erroneous judgment, you are not well informed what kind of rubbish Covid-19 is. By the way, what do a dozen and a half dozen of ugly biological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine do on the budget of the Pentagon with ugly military personnel?
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 3 March 2021 06: 35
                +2
                I'm embarrassed to ask where do you get the information from?
                Do you believe him? Not so long ago, Zyuzya tragically reported that he fell ill with covid-19. Was he not early enough? Russian-language sources, the same as yours.
                1. Dimide
                  Dimide 3 March 2021 08: 34
                  -5
                  There is a video of his vaccination
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 3 March 2021 08: 47
                    +1
                    Quote: Dimid
                    There is a video of his vaccination


                    There is yes But "indian shmurdy"was he vaccinated?

                    Although some pronounced side effects indicate that im ...
                    1. Dimide
                      Dimide 3 March 2021 08: 50
                      -7
                      I already wrote that jokes are not your strong point. MMM advertising is your ceiling and
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 3 March 2021 08: 53
                        +2
                        Quote: Dimid
                        I already wrote that jokes are not your strong point. MMM advertising is your ceiling and

                        At the beginning you would have thought what to write yes . But think , and it's obvious , not your topic ...
                      2. Dimide
                        Dimide 3 March 2021 09: 00
                        -7
                        Exactly, as the videos posted above proves, mind chamber. Cicero, you are our staff
                  2. sniperino
                    sniperino 3 March 2021 15: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    "Indian shmurdyak" was it vaccinated?
                    Advanced youth in Kiev prefers LSD.
                2. Baloo
                  Baloo 3 March 2021 10: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: Dimid
                  There is a video of his vaccination

                  Do you believe it? Reagan was a mediocre actor, but a successful and professional politician and businessman. What did Zyuzya promise before the elections? And how is the fight against corruption and ending the war in Donbass? Doesn't it seem strange to you that Zyuzi's wife's buying real estate in Crimea, are these taxes paid to the budget of the aggressor's country? We have 4 vacancies for one official unemployed person, but what about you? Do you feel the difference between Zuze in cinema and in reality?
                  1. Dimide
                    Dimide 3 March 2021 12: 23
                    -3
                    Don't watch TV
                    The Zelensky couple owned real estate in Crimea even before the annexation.
                    1. Baloo
                      Baloo 3 March 2021 12: 48
                      0
                      Quote: Dimid
                      Don't watch TV
                      The Zelensky couple owned real estate in Crimea even before the annexation.

                      We also bought it.
                    2. Dimide
                      Dimide 3 March 2021 12: 51
                      -1
                      More details can be found with the source.
                      His political opponents would have been devoured if it were
                    3. Baloo
                      Baloo 3 March 2021 12: 52
                      0
                      Quote: Dimid
                      More details can be found with the source.
                      His political opponents would have been devoured if it were

                      they still need it. Do you only watch your TV "patriotic"? wassat
                    4. Dimide
                      Dimide 3 March 2021 12: 59
                      -1
                      I haven't watched TV for six years.
                      I lied, I watch football and biathlon.
                      So what about Zelensky's real estate sources?
                      Don't make me think bad of you
                    5. Baloo
                      Baloo 3 March 2021 13: 07
                      -1
                      Quote: Dimid
                      I haven't watched TV for six years.
                      I lied, I watch football and biathlon.
                      So what about Zelensky's real estate sources?
                      Don't make me think bad of you

                      Your thoughts about me ... laughing My most humane profession requires an objective assessment of reality. Neighbors' mess behind the fence is a potential threat. My presence of a purely civilian on the site for the military is dictated by the desire to compare my vision of what is happening with the public, apart from the official versions in the media. That's all. Well, you continue to be afraid of Russia, which at a difficult moment extended a helping hand, and actually what to expect from the authorities. Every nation has the government it deserves. hi
                    6. Dimide
                      Dimide 3 March 2021 13: 24
                      -4
                      Everything is clear with you. Please do not ask me questions, I will not answer. I’m not used to communicating with ...
                    7. Baloo
                      Baloo 3 March 2021 15: 54
                      -1
                      Quote: Dimid
                      Everything is clear with you. Please do not ask me questions, I will not answer. I’m not used to communicating with ...

                      Ha ha ha. You have no arguments how to hide. Have a nice one you too. So what is the US military with diplomatic immunity doing in 15 biological laboratories in Ukraine on the Pentagon's budget? My prognosis: swine flu, bird flu, new strains of coronavirus. It did not start from Wuhan in China. Work on coronavirus was carried out in the United States in 4 military laboratories. After an emergency station in one of them, Obama closed the topic in 2015, and Trump opened it in 2017. And the first cases were in June in the USA and Italy. In Wuhan in the fall, the laboratory was built with American money, by the Americans, and the Americans worked with the Chinese in it. The WHO Commission found that bats had nothing to do with it. Funding ultimately leads to the Soros structures. I wish you not to be ill.
                    8. Baloo
                      Baloo 3 March 2021 16: 00
                      0
                      Quote: Dimid
                      Everything is clear with you. Please do not ask me questions, I will not answer. I’m not used to communicating with

                      In Soviet times, the newspaper Sovetsky Sport, Krasnaya Zvezda, Sovetskaya Kultura and Pravda were read by people of certain professions similar to yours. What are you doing here, there will be no problems with the SBU? laughing
      4. sniperino
        sniperino 3 March 2021 12: 34
        0
        Quote: Balu
        Do you feel the difference between Zuze in cinema and in reality?
        Difference in hryvnia?
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 3 March 2021 12: 49
          +1
          Quote: sniperino
          Quote: Balu
          Do you feel the difference between Zuze in cinema and in reality?
          Difference in hryvnia?

          Actions are the measure of a person, especially the leader of a country.
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 3 March 2021 13: 05
          +2
          Quote: Balu
          Quote: sniperino
          Quote: Balu
          Do you feel the difference between Zuze in cinema and in reality?
          Difference in hryvnia?

          Actions are the measure of a person, especially the leader of a country.
          Maybe he is here and answers under the name Dimid, excuses himself. There, his performances to the public are very tiring, and there is nothing more to do. Journalists are selected as personal protection, and the opposition is under the heading for treason. Collaboration was written off from Soviet Article 58. Fascists. And their Ze-Fuhrer is afraid of the Nazis, whom he was given to guard.
        3. Dimide
          Dimide 3 March 2021 14: 25
          -2
          You declassified me laughing
  • Stas Sv
    Stas Sv 3 March 2021 13: 55
    0
    Do you yourself believe that you have been injected with the vaccine? Personally, I deeply doubt it. They injected something insignificant or vitamins, and presented it as a vaccine. Another PR move to the camera. Zelya in her repertoire. winked
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 3 March 2021 14: 31
      -1
      I don’t know this, I don’t belong to the president’s entourage.
      I dare to assume that there was a vaccine in the syringe. Can you imagine what a scandal would have been if it had been otherwise.
      1. Stas Sv
        Stas Sv 3 March 2021 17: 42
        0
        Well, who is going to voice it? Personally, I would not prick this crap in myself with its effectiveness - 63% request
        Alternatively, the original was injected, and not an Indian fake.
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 3 March 2021 18: 12
          -1
          The British Ambassador said that Covishield is identical to Oxford Astrozenek, only from Indian raw materials and at Indian facilities
          Personally, I'm not going to get vaccinated
    2. Radius
      Radius 4 March 2021 07: 27
      0
      Well, yes - the repertoire has not changed. Actresses tend to exaggerate, especially on stage: do you really think he played TEM on the piano, what was meant? :)
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 2 March 2021 19: 41
    0
    What exactly is superior to Soviet old stuff?))))
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 2 March 2021 19: 49
      -6
      The same Javelin, the same Bassoon
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 2 March 2021 23: 29
        0
        Quote: Dimid
        The same Javelin, the same Bassoon

        How many javelins? Who gave permission to ukram to use them freely? And since when is it better than the bassoon? It's like comparing a sword and a spear. This javelin hemorrhoid is solid low range.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 2 March 2021 23: 57
        +2
        When was the Javelin used in real combat? And the "bassoon" has proven its effectiveness dozens of times.
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 3 March 2021 12: 19
          -1
          Iraq, Afghan
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 3 March 2021 19: 37
            0
            When there was a real war in Iraq, there were no "Javelins" yet. And in Afghanistan, what were they shooting at? For boerbukhaiks?)))
            1. Dimide
              Dimide 3 March 2021 19: 46
              -2
              Don't compose: Watch the Javelin Years and the Iraq War
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 3 March 2021 19: 48
                0
                It takes years, sometimes many years, from being put into service, to mass deliveries to the troops. In Iraq, a lot of things were tested experimentally, 2 - 3 pieces each. This does not mean anything.
                1. Dimide
                  Dimide 3 March 2021 19: 53
                  -1
                  Don't want to admit a mistake? Okay, type in the search engine in which conflicts the Javelin ATGM was used
                  1. TermNachTer
                    TermNachTer 3 March 2021 23: 58
                    0
                    If you get information from Wikipedia, I am sincerely sorry for you.
                  2. Dimide
                    Dimide 4 March 2021 08: 32
                    -1
                    Children's excuses. Just tell me that you confused "Desert Storm" with the war in Iraq. There is nothing wrong with that
                  3. TermNachTer
                    TermNachTer 4 March 2021 10: 39
                    0
                    Don't be ridiculous))) having warehouses full of old anti-tank systems, mattress covers specially used new, expensive ones?))) Against Iraqi junk?)) How many "javelins" were used? how many hits? how many armored vehicles were destroyed? just not from wikipedia))) you can write anything in it, including for advertising purposes, so that the suckers would line up for the mattress wunderwolf.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 3 March 2021 10: 56
    +1
    Quote: Dimid
    The same Javelin, the same Bassoon

    Do you know what steps you need to take to bring the javelins into action?
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 3 March 2021 12: 26
      -1
      The main thing is not to keep constant eye contact, like Bassoon
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 3 March 2021 12: 50
        0
        Quote: Dimid
        The main thing is not to keep constant eye contact, like Bassoon

        you are a great connoisseur. List the conditions for putting the javelin into action.
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 3 March 2021 12: 54
          -1
          I have no practice with this device, only infa from open sources
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 3 March 2021 13: 02
            0
            Quote: Dimid
            I have no practice with this device, only infa from open sources

            Continue to believe in the miraculous mission of your government, in which civilians trained in Soros courses and military leaders trained in the States of rats who have spare minks, dual citizenship, hidden lard, they will be the first to wash off like an egg. The very fact that there are foreign nationals in the government of Ukraine is already transferring the country to the third category, to the category of colonies. Think. Now the pro-covid-mild form does not guarantee the impossibility of re-infection. In our region, with the beginning of vaccination, the incidence decreased from 100 until the new year to 55-49 every day, but the mortality rate is practically at the same level as before the new year 2-4 versus 3-5 before the new year. In general, Ukraine is not a topic of conversation at the household level, the attitude is rather sympathetic and humorous. This is true.
  • Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 3 March 2021 12: 00
    +1
    landfill-only javelin
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 3 March 2021 00: 30
    +1
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Indeed, instead of colossal spending on American boats, they could invest in the restoration and development of the once powerful Ukrainian military-industrial complex.

    Why upgrade, if you can sniff, for good dollars. Investing money in the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is a waste of money. Selling your unnecessary junk is a profit for the United States.

    It was necessary to "give" Poroshenko an old aircraft carrier for Ukraine!
  • Alien From
    Alien From 4 March 2021 21: 53
    0
    A bit more. Mattresses were recycled by a whole nation, and for cookies.
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 2 March 2021 18: 03
    +5
    these amounts cannot be compared with military supplies, say, to Israel
    Organizing a state like Israel near our borders would be just a fairy tale for the United States, but it’s not clear that they’ll pull the second one, and only the Poles are the first in line.
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 March 2021 18: 55
      +3
      Israel was and will remain alone, and they will never allow the second type ...
    2. NF68
      NF68 2 March 2021 19: 09
      +1
      Quote: Trapp1st
      these amounts cannot be compared with military supplies, say, to Israel
      Organizing a state like Israel near our borders would be just a fairy tale for the United States, but it’s not clear that they’ll pull the second one, and only the Poles are the first in line.


      Israelis, unlike horses, are mostly smart people. Where to them all the horses put together.
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 2 March 2021 19: 17
        +2
        Israelis, unlike horses, are mostly smart people. Where to them all the horses put together.
        Even accepting this very controversial statement, is it a plus or a minus for the United States, what do you think? In addition, that some, that others cope with their task, so that intelligence is clearly not the main thing here.
      2. Dimide
        Dimide 2 March 2021 19: 54
        -5
        Somewhere I have already heard about the superiority of one nation over another, and someone with such a worldview ended badly.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 3 March 2021 14: 35
          +2
          Quote: Dimid
          Somewhere I have already heard about the superiority of one people over another
          In the lessons on the history of Ukraine?
          1. Dimide
            Dimide 3 March 2021 14: 53
            -2
            No, in the comments of your fellow citizens
  • NF68
    NF68 2 March 2021 19: 06
    +1
    It would be much more expensive to hand over obsolete equipment to the Americans for scrap than to shove it all to Ukraine.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 2 March 2021 19: 40
    +2
    ATGM "Javelin" is located on the territory of the Yavoriv training ground, under the protection of the US military. They give it to the banderoheroi only for training and parades, and then they take it away. Because - they will sell, and the grandmothers will drink)))
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 2 March 2021 20: 13
      -7
      You are using outdated sources of information, since the 16th
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 2 March 2021 23: 55
        0
        And you can not even doubt))) mattress covers for their ATGM, they will give the horseradish to Banderast, because in three days he will be in Moscow)))
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 3 March 2021 08: 47
          -3
          Smiled, what's the point that in Moscow, the technology still needs to be repeated. When did they start producing the Javelins and that not a single specimen was studied?
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 3 March 2021 10: 49
            +2
            It is always good to see what others have in order to make the "antidote" - perfectly normal practice.
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 3 March 2021 10: 58
            +2
            Quote: Dimid
            Smiled, what's the point that in Moscow, the technology still needs to be repeated. When did they start producing the Javelins and that not a single specimen was studied?

            You are simply not aware of the specifics of using a javelin. You have been sniffed outright junk.
  • Eug
    Eug 5 March 2021 08: 52
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    "Give it - take it", "they don't look a gift horse in the belly" - thought the Trojans and pulled the horse into the fortress ...