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Converges, does not converge gas solitaire

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Tempo, tempo



Since the January chronicles of the construction of Nord Stream 2 were published (New Danish Chronicles of the Russian "Fortune"), we had to return to the hot topic twice.

Nevertheless, we expect not to stop collecting reports from the gas fronts, at least until the first cubic meters of Russian gas are pumped through the second "Nord Stream".

1-5 February 2021 The pipe-laying barge (TUB) "Fortuna" carried out a series of maneuvers in Danish waters, which turned out to be preparatory before starting work. The return to the project of the crane and assembly pipe-laying vessel (KMTUS) "Akademik Chersky" has again shifted for an indefinite period.

Converges, does not converge gas solitaire

However, it became known that, together with TUB "Fortuna", the pipelayer "Pioneering Spirit" can resume work on the project. Previously, it belonged to the Swiss company Allseas, which left the project. But now he regularly changes the postscript - Panama and Maltese, in order to avoid sanctions.

These days, the German authorities, like Russian officials, did not focus too much on the Nord Stream 2 project. But on February 1, 2021, the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev, in an interview with Russian media, said that the pipeline would be completed.


Source: kremlin.ru

Medvedev announced that if Germany takes a firm stance on the project and does not bend under the US position, nothing will be able to prevent the launch of SP-2. He also recalled the readiness of Russia

“To use judicial mechanisms to protect the construction of the“ SP-2 ”.

The German edition Handelsblatt, citing sources in the American administration, reported that the United States for the first time signaled the possibility of lifting the sanctions imposed on the Nord Stream 2 project.


According to not officially confirmed information, German Chancellor A. Merkel discussed the topic of "Nord Stream-2" in a telephone conversation with US President D. Biden.

It is now enough for Germany to present proposals that will allay US concerns about the project. Washington is interested in preserving gas transit through Ukraine and insists on preventing Ukraine from separating from the European gas infrastructure.

What lies ahead?


American concerns are hardly justified, since Germany initially participates in the joint venture-2 with the condition of maintaining gas transit through Ukraine. And even in the new transit contract with Ukraine, which was signed at the end of 2019, we are talking about 44 billion cubic meters of gas per year.

A transit trade agreement was signed until 2024 with the possibility of prolongation, although gas supplies via SP-2 to Germany, for example, will be obviously cheaper.

February 6, Saturday. The operator of the Nord Stream 2 AG project has received a message about the successful completion of the Fortuna TUBE sea trials and preparatory work to resume the construction of Nord Stream 2.

It was also reported about the start of laying gas pipes in Danish waters. It was especially noted that the work is carried out in accordance with all permits - both environmental and insurance.

6-8 February 2021 TUB "Fortuna" covered 794 m along the SP-2, which is generally consistent with the speed of pipe-laying in shallow water in the German EEZ in December 2020. There, in 14 days, the barge laid a 2,6 km section.

The construction of the deep-water section SP-2 in the Danish EEZ is technically more complicated. But a large amount of preparatory work allows TUB "Fortuna" at least not to reduce the speed of work.

According to the work plan, TUB Fortuna may complete the construction of the pipeline section along the first line in the Danish EEZ in the last week of May 2021. Experts considered that for this TUB "Fortuna" would have to accelerate almost twice.

February 9, Tuesday. It became known that on the same day the Danish Maritime Administration established protective zones around the Nord Stream 2 route until April 30, 2021. This decision can be seen as fixing the deadline for completing pipe-laying work in the Danish EEZ.

Leaving go


10-11 February 2021 Work on the laying of SP-2 pipes in Danish waters was suspended due to difficult weather conditions in the Baltic. Construction resumed on Sunday 14 February.

February 11, Thursday. Vladimir Vavilov, Deputy Head of the Department of Import Substitution Technologies of Gazprom (pictured below), at a forum in Nizhny Novgorod, announced that the concern expects to commission Nord Stream 2 in 2021. It is planned to start work on one or two lines of SP-2 - it was not specified.


Source: gazprom.ru

12 – 18 February. Waiting for the improvement of weather conditions, TUB "Fortuna" resumed construction in the EEZ of Denmark to the south of the island. Bornholm at a record speed for itself.

The second potential pipe-layer - the crane-and-assembly pipe-laying vessel (KMTUS) “Akademik Chersky”, remained motionless as before. Although his participation would allow at least triple the speed of pipe-laying.

February 19, Friday. Bloomberg, citing informed sources, reported that the administration of the new US President D. Biden will not include German companies in the sanctions list related to the construction of Nord Stream 2.

February 24, Wednesday. The German edition of Der Tagesspiegel, citing a report from the US State Department, reported that at least 18 European companies withdrew from the Nord Stream 2 project due to the threat of US sanctions.

The sanctions are stipulated by the Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act (PEESA) included in the US defense budget.

Among the "leaving" a number of insurance companies headquartered in the UK, as well as the Swiss Zurich Insurance Group, the French Axa Group and the German concerns Bilfinger SE and Munich Re Syndicate.

On the same days, one of its direct participants, Wintershall Dea, announced the completion of financing for the project, which managed to finance SP-2 for 730 million euros out of the planned 950.

Be ready!


February 24, Wednesday. The Norwegian-flagged research vessel Havila Subsea has arrived at the port of Mukran to carry out underwater research.


Previously, this Norwegian vessel operated on the SP-2 project. And now he does not hide his participation in the project, despite the expanded American sanctions, including inspection services. However, the depth of the German section does not exceed the threshold of 100 feet (30,48 m) established by the sanctions, so the work of "Havila Subsea" is carried out without fear.

February 24 - March 1. TUB "Fortuna" continued to lay the SP-2 pipes in Danish waters at a pace significantly ahead of the previously agreed work schedule. Despite fears that the construction will not meet the "Danish" deadline until April 30, the most difficult work, according to experts, may be completed a few days earlier.

March 2, Tuesday. Ukraine announced its readiness to launch the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, said the head of Naftogaz A. Kobolev. As you know, SP-2 was previously called weapons in the "hybrid war" waged by Russia against Ukraine.


The launch of the SP-2 and the loss of transit income by Ukraine, according to the country's politicians, threatened it with an economic catastrophe. However, the exit of the Ukrainian GTS (with the exception of underground gas storage facilities) from under Ukrainian control led to a change in rhetoric.

Moreover, in fact, the country will not be left without Russian gas in any case by virtue of the existing contracts.

Are we going north?


February 28, Sunday. Denmark's active participation in the final stages of construction of Nord Stream 2 has prompted a series of publications in the local press about a possible expansion of the project. We are talking about the possibility of laying in the future a special not only "Swedish", but also "Danish" branch from one of the lines of the SP-2.


Recall that earlier Denmark was one of the most active opponents of the Nord Stream 2 project, considering it a threat not only to the ecology of the Baltic Sea, but also to shipping (Danish Gas Games. Nord Stream is being queued).

However, at the end of 2020, the position of the Danes changed. You can say, fundamentally. In addition to issuing all necessary building permits in the country's EEZ, it turned out that several Danish companies were involved in the project.

Apparently, the threat of sanctions, and it doesn't matter whether it is American or even from the EU, does not scare them, since they work exclusively for the domestic Danish market.

Or they comply with overseas sanctions regulations, like the above-mentioned Norwegian "newcomer".
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 4 March 2021 15: 09
    +15
    honestly, everything is "gladiolus" with these pipes ... I understand that we pay and that we are not asked, but I also understand that there is no use for us (me) from these pipes ... miller, sechin, Mishustin, Rotenbergs, etc., of course, they are interested. to look at this, because they have "invested" and are expecting a return, but I don't care ... I don't care ... neither will my pension jump to an embarrassing level, nor will medicine rise again. ... because there is no way from the other world, no education ... because there is no one to educate, and who needs to be, those in yels, Oxfords, Harvards, Cambridge ... and the rest of the cattle why? so yeah ... I'm calm ... fuck these pipes ... minus ... pipe you in! wassat
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 4 March 2021 15: 13
      +12
      Quote: Aerodrome
      I don't care anything ... neither pension will jump to an uncomfortable level, nor medicine will rise ... for there is no way from the other world, no education ... for there is no one to educate, but who needs to be, those in yels, Oxfords, Harvards, Cambridges ... and why the rest of the cattle? so yeah ... I'm calm ... fuck these pipes ...

      Every citizen of the state should receive dividends from natural resources. In this case, it will be fair and you can worry .. but now it really makes absolutely no sense ..
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 4 March 2021 15: 17
        -17%
        Quote: Svarog

        Every citizen of the state should receive dividends from natural resources ..

        Populism!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 4 March 2021 15: 23
          +17
          Quote: Nasr
          Quote: Svarog

          Every citizen of the state should receive dividends from natural resources ..


          Populism!

          Justify .. what is populism? This is true. It is not fair when a bunch of people saw through natural resources ... and it is especially cynical when under patriotic slogans ..
          You need to look at everything objectively, if you want people to defend your interests, share, if you do not want to share, fight yourself ..
          And then, as a call, then -pay a debt to the Motherland .. and how to share -populism .. Some kind of perversion ..
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 March 2021 16: 02
            +5
            Quote: Svarog
            Justify .. what is populism? This is true.

            Fair enough to get decent money for a good job. There is no justice in giving money just like that.
            Quote: Svarog
            It's not fair when a bunch of faces are sawing natural resources

            Totally agree.
            The money from the sale of hydrocarbons should be spent on the development of the country so that the people's well-being grows. That is, speaking roughly, you need not give a person a fish, but help him make a fishing rod. Well, or improve the existing fishing tackle :)))))))
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 4 March 2021 16: 08
              +7
              you need not give a person a fish, but help him make a fishing rod

              Uh-huh .. Then he will invent beer and, in general, will hammer the bolt on everything, sitting out days fishing .. laughing
              1. BAI
                BAI 4 March 2021 16: 28
                0
                Give the person the opportunity not to work and he will not work.
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 4 March 2021 15: 36
          -15%
          Moreover, bulk does not even promise this, but svarog is actively drowning for him, scoring on Platoshkin! hiThese are the pseudo-communists of the forum! hi
        3. nnm
          nnm 4 March 2021 15: 42
          +12
          And what about the Saudis in Norway? I’ll tell you more, "United Russia" with its 2002 manifesto. that's exactly what I promised))
        4. The comment was deleted.
        5. Kronos
          Kronos 4 March 2021 16: 01
          +6
          The reality of a number of oil-producing countries from Norway to Saudi Arabia.
        6. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 4 March 2021 17: 11
          +9
          Quote: Nasr
          Populism!

          Populism? Please do not confuse it with "ass / licking" ...
          Article 9
          1. Earth and others natural resources are used and are protected in the Russian Federation as the basis of the life and work of peoplesliving in the respective territory.
        7. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 4 March 2021 18: 59
          +11
          Quote: Nasr
          opulism!

          Well Evlampy, spears for battle! checkers-out! Raise the visor of the non-believer bully
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana 4 March 2021 15: 24
        -24%
        Dividends are received from investments. What have you invested in natural resources? Or their prey?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 4 March 2021 15: 25
          +19
          Quote: Svetlana
          Dividends are received from investments. What have you invested in natural resources?

          My grandfathers donated their blood ... they fought for this land, for my future, including for natural resources ... And what did those who now manage them put in? And where did they get what they invested?
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 4 March 2021 15: 30
            -18%
            Quote: Svarog

            My grandfathers donated their blood ... they fought for this land ...


            The grandfathers shed blood for the Motherland, for Stalin, and the granddaughter counted everything in the loot ... he suffers that they are not allowed to go to the trough ..
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 4 March 2021 15: 31
              +12
              Quote: Nasr
              The grandfathers shed blood for the Motherland, for Stalin, and the granddaughter counted everything for the loot ...

              Not granddaughters ... but you counted everything to the loot, but if capitalism ... then justice has not been canceled ..
              1. Nasrat
                Nasrat 4 March 2021 15: 34
                -26%
                Quote: Svarog
                ... justice has not been canceled ..

                Don't press on pity! I don’t serve healthy men!
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 4 March 2021 15: 36
                  +13
                  Quote: Nasr
                  Quote: Svarog
                  ... justice has not been canceled ..

                  Don't press on pity!

                  And here is the pity ..? Pity will then be .. if there is no justice.
                2. Aerodrome
                  Aerodrome 4 March 2021 15: 53
                  +15
                  Quote: Nasr
                  Don't press on pity! I don’t serve healthy men!

                  give ... with a bow .. to the Duma, to the oligarchs ... and so on ... to the "owners" ... you also bow with servility, apparently .... \ well, in such a ... groveling pose.
                  1. Nasrat
                    Nasrat 4 March 2021 16: 16
                    -16%
                    Quote: Aerodrome
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Don't press on pity! I don’t serve healthy men!

                    give ... with a bow .. to the Duma, to the oligarchs ... and so on ... to the "owners" ... you also bow with servility, apparently .... \ well, in such a ... groveling pose.

                    wassat wassat I was especially amused by the expression - Apparently !!! good Hali Likely !!! bully one training manual ... for all cases .. laughing
                    1. notingem
                      notingem 7 March 2021 23: 01
                      +1
                      Bad Cheka worked badly. Humanists were seen
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 4 March 2021 19: 49
                +15
                Quote: Svarog
                Well, if capitalism ... then no one canceled justice ..

                Kamrad! soldier There is no justice under capitalism! Leave the illusion! My motto is to share everything, Yes, just like that and only like that.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 4 March 2021 19: 58
                  +6
                  Quote: Stroporez

                  Comrade! There is no justice under capitalism

                  Glad to see you in the ranks! hi Everything is true, but justice is in the fact that everything would be distributed fairly, under capitalism this cannot be .. but under capitalism it is necessary to demand this .. and therefore strive for socialism ..
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 5 March 2021 04: 23
                    +8
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Glad to see you in the ranks!

                    Fizkult hello! drinks Rest only in our dreams laughing
            2. paul3390
              paul3390 4 March 2021 16: 17
              +16
              The grandfathers shed blood for the Motherland, for Stalin, and the granddaughter counted everything in the loot ... he suffers that they are not allowed to go to the trough ..

              I didn't understand something - did Comrade Stalin, for whom they fought, meant that 50 years after the Victory, everything acquired and conquered by their grandfathers would go to a bunch of scoundrels ?? belay Yes, you are delusional - that's when they put them up against the wall. am And I would not so disparagingly call the stolen state of the people a trough .. negative
              1. Nasrat
                Nasrat 4 March 2021 16: 22
                -19%
                Quote: paul3390
                will go to a bunch of villains ?? :


                Aha, there were many more villains !!! But not everything is at the trough! Many of them demand their own piece !!! wassat
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 4 March 2021 16: 30
                  +16
                  Judging by your frequent and voluptuous mention of the trough - is it from which you usually deign to eat food? Favorite cutlery?
                2. WHAT IS
                  WHAT IS 4 March 2021 19: 01
                  +17
                  And you are categorically against, as I see it, Evlampy Spiridonovich? Do you want to let anyone in, as you deigned to put it, "trough"? Is it for the elite like you, not for the whole people?
                3. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 5 March 2021 11: 59
                  +1
                  not all at the trough! Many of them demand their own piece !!! wassat

                  And what's the laugh? What's wrong that everyone wants and demands their piece ??
                  It is clear that you NasRat .. but why on earth should all the pieces belong only to a bunch of scoundrels ??
            3. Roman070280
              Roman070280 5 March 2021 11: 56
              +2
              Grandfathers shed blood for the Motherland, for Stalin


              And where is all this ??
              Homeland - this is Miller with a bunch of dough or what ??
              Why are others plundering this Motherland now .. and all sorts of Spiridonychs also assent to the fact that they were allowed to go to the trough ..
          2. Svetlana
            Svetlana 4 March 2021 15: 35
            -23%
            Yes, our grandfathers fought for the land and for our future it is. And the bowels of the earth belong to the people inhabiting this land. Everything is correct.
            But there is one but: Extracted from the land already belongs to the miner, and not to the people. If you, as a descendant of those who fought for this land, had obtained this oil, then it would be yours. And if Rosneft got it, then it belongs to Rosneft. In other words: the extracted resources always have a specific owner.
            1. Civil
              Civil 4 March 2021 15: 44
              +11
              Quote: Svetlana
              Yes, our grandfathers fought for the land

              This is unlikely, your grandfathers were more likely to fight for the oligarchs, since you are protecting them this way. Against the USSR, the Vlasovites were either Bendera, or maybe in the SS. Once against the Russian people, write.
            2. ALARI
              ALARI 4 March 2021 15: 53
              +15
              And Gazprom and Rosneft are private companies, they appeared out of thin air in 91, and how did some of these companies end up in private hands?
            3. paul3390
              paul3390 4 March 2021 16: 10
              +18
              Extracted from the land already belongs to the miner, and not to the people.

              With the same success, you can postulate that the wallet obtained from your pocket no longer belongs to you, but to a thief. wink
              1. WHAT IS
                WHAT IS 4 March 2021 18: 43
                +21
                the wallet obtained from your pocket no longer belongs to you, but to the thief.

                Very accurate comparison.
            4. clerk
              clerk 4 March 2021 17: 17
              -3
              ... but: Extracted from the earth already belongs to the miner, and not to the people. If you, as a descendant of those who fought for this land, had obtained this oil, then it would be yours. And if Rosneft got it, then it belongs to Rosneft. In other words: the extracted resources always have a specific owner.
              And who owns Rosneft - google it yourself or help?
        2. ALARI
          ALARI 4 March 2021 15: 41
          +15
          The state has no state money, only taxes from citizens. It is these taxes that the citizens have invested and are waiting for dividends, and for some reason they are appropriated by people who imagine themselves to be the masters of our land.
          1. BAI
            BAI 4 March 2021 16: 34
            -9
            The state has no state money, only taxes from citizens.

            Yah? And what about revenues from state-owned companies (like Gazprom, for example)? And in general, not a modest question - where are the interest on deposits? Foreign exchange reserves, budget money, after all, are not in a heap somewhere, they are invested in something at interest, they are in accounts, they go through banks, also at interest.
            1. ALARI
              ALARI 4 March 2021 16: 45
              +10
              And you first answer the question for yourself, the state for the people or the people for the state, and everything will fall into place. we have that the state lives for itself, and the citizens by themselves. Everything that you listed appeared only because the state seized part of the funds from the people, in the form of taxes, and invested, it is still taxpayers' money. In a simplified way, people donated money and delegated part of their powers, so the state appeared.
        3. nnm
          nnm 4 March 2021 15: 45
          0
          Have you tried to read the constitution?))) That is, especially for you, the simplest analogy: you own a car, someone else's uncle uses it, taxies, you earn nothing, and then you sold it and made money on it. but you come up with a question - what, did you assemble the car yourself, did you tax or sell it for parts ?! Cool logic.
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 4 March 2021 15: 53
            -12%
            Send me to that article of the constitution which I should read.
            ..
            NEDRA belongs to the people. The mined ones are gone. The mined coal belongs to the miner, the extracted ore belongs to the miner, the gold-miner, and oil to the oilman.
            1. nnm
              nnm 4 March 2021 15: 58
              +9
              Ridiculous)))) I will translate your thesis to a more illustrative example: potatoes grew in my garden (still mine), then you dug it yourself (already yours), brought it home to me and sell it at market value. Attention, the question is, weren't such sellers insolent, since their price includes not only their costs, but also the cost of my potatoes?)))
              1. Svetlana
                Svetlana 4 March 2021 16: 00
                -12%
                Uh, the garden is your personal, not shared, so the potatoes are yours.
                Look for another example.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 4 March 2021 16: 02
                  +5
                  If I say that we have a family of 10 people and a vegetable garden in common property, it will be easier for you to accept the analogy) ???? Or to stretch the number of garden owners to 146 million, which would be more understandable?)))
                  1. Svetlana
                    Svetlana 4 March 2021 16: 20
                    -10%
                    If all 146 ml. will work on this site and grow potatoes, then yes, the income will have to be divided. But this is not the case.
                    And yes, if you find and get a gold nugget on your site, will it belong to your family or to all of us?
                    1. nnm
                      nnm 4 March 2021 16: 24
                      +5
                      Good Lord, well, I’ll simplify even more: there are 146 million people in the family, our common property is a wild apple orchard, you pick apples in it, bring them and sell them to us. Do you need to repeat the question about the final cost?)))
                      1. Svetlana
                        Svetlana 4 March 2021 16: 52
                        -11%
                        Divide the ownership of the garden and the crop and you will understand what it is about.
                        And most importantly, I am waiting for an answer to: the above question from which you dodged: Did you find the gold nugget, is it yours or is it common?
                      2. nnm
                        nnm 4 March 2021 16: 54
                        +7
                        Bravoooooo !!!!! That is, the fruits growing wild on my property are no longer my property?))))) Bravo, colleague, just a better understanding of property rights.
                        There is a special, separate clause in the legislation about treasures and minerals. But the constitution defines everything absolutely clearly. No matter how hard they try to level this PP later. It contains a precise, peremptory norm of direct action. Which is not subject to distortion or reservations in any way
                      3. Svetlana
                        Svetlana 4 March 2021 16: 56
                        -9
                        There will be no answer?
                      4. nnm
                        nnm 4 March 2021 16: 59
                        +4
                        Svetlana, you, really, excuse me, but it is difficult not only to argue, but even to answer a person who does not understand at all in the issues of property rights. Before that, I just thought that we were jokingly discussing your words, just to practice, but you seem to be writing this seriously.
                        In short. Treasure - 233 GK. Oil, gold, etc. on your site are BOTTOMS, which are not covered by your ownership of the site. If you dug up an ingot - St233 GK. If the gold mine is BOTTOM.
      3. for
        for 4 March 2021 17: 21
        +4
        Quote: Svetlana
        NEDRA belongs to the people.

        And who should take my share and try it for me. Let them pay% of the mined share of mine.
  2. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 4 March 2021 15: 50
    +11
    Quote: Svetlana
    Dividends are received from investments. What have you invested in natural resources? Or their prey?

    Here's a fucking twist! and those who pocketed, what did they invest? fought for it? or what? fool
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 4 March 2021 15: 57
      -13%
      The privatization process in the post-Soviet space is a separate story. It is not necessary to mix everything in one heap.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 4 March 2021 17: 17
        +6
        Quote: Svetlana
        The privatization process in the post-Soviet space is a separate story.

        Exactly. The history of illegal plundering and appropriation of the results of labor activity of generations of Soviet people.
  3. apro
    apro 4 March 2021 15: 58
    +13
    Quote: Svetlana
    Dividends are received from investments. What have you invested in natural resources? Or their prey?

    And nothing that this is a national property ??? and the main capacities were built by the state even under the USSR. The Russian efficient could only redirect all income to their pockets.
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 4 March 2021 17: 13
    +8
    Quote: Svetlana
    Dividends are received from investments.

    Together with the slogan to the tax office! There they will explain to you where to invest and what to get.
  5. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 4 March 2021 19: 02
    +14
    Quote: Svetlana
    Dividends are received from investments. What have you invested in natural resources? Or their prey?

    Sveta! You were completely in vain taught to read and write.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 4 March 2021 15: 26
    -13%
    At 146 million, do you even imagine this amount?))))
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 4 March 2021 15: 30
      +6
      Quote: carstorm 11
      At 146 million, do you even imagine this amount?))))

      Let's imagine .. besides oil and gas .. there is gold, diamonds, minerals, timber .. Read the entire GDP of Russia .. and now divide it by 146 mil .. minus salary for workers and equipment wear ..
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 4 March 2021 15: 33
        -14%
        Aaaa) well, logical. And then we will be thrown onto roads, bridges and so on?) Are we going to invest in projects too?)
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 4 March 2021 15: 34
          +8
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Aaaa) well, logical. And then we will dump on roads, bridges and so on, right?)

          And that we are not dumping now .. and plato? what about taxes?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 4 March 2021 15: 36
            -16%
            Of course. But you understand that we are not the main donors of the budget, right?)
            1. Kronos
              Kronos 4 March 2021 16: 03
              +8
              The people are the main donors.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 4 March 2021 16: 22
                -12%
                Nope) our income for example is 10 percent. Income from the oil and gas complex more than 30) at a glance
        2. for
          for 4 March 2021 17: 25
          +10
          Quote: carstorm 11
          And then we will dump on roads, bridges and so on, right?)

          And why do we pay taxes? How are those countries that have no natural resources being built?
      2. clerk
        clerk 4 March 2021 17: 57
        -4
        ... Let's imagine .. besides oil and gas .. there is gold, diamonds, minerals, wood ..
        ... Introduced. Against the background of a tank farm, these are mere pennies.
        ... Read the entire GDP of Russia .. and now divide it by 146 mil .. minus salary for workers and equipment wear ..
        And what will the resulting figure mean? laughing
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 4 March 2021 15: 34
      +3
      Quote: carstorm 11
      At 146 million, do you even imagine this amount?))))

      In general, I for the FIRST time in my life partially agree with Svarog! There needs to be a fairer and more transparent distribution of Mineral revenues. For example, like in Norway!
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 4 March 2021 15: 39
        -17%
        Quote: Hunter 2
        .. For example, like in Norway!

        It is possible as in Norway, but you will have to abandon the ambitions of an independent power ... the same fleet, army - will be, but modest .. Nuclear weapons, nuclear power plants, nuclear fleet - all this will have to be deposited in more ambitious countries ... yes, and territory countries will have to be reconsidered - the Central Russian plain may remain ..
        1. nnm
          nnm 4 March 2021 15: 49
          +10
          Absolutely not a fact! An increase in the volume of real disposable income will give both the effect of a jump in investment, and the development of small business, and the release of budgetary funds such as hundreds of billions of budget subsidies to the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation, subsidies, etc.
          If state-owned companies were not structurally overloaded monsters intended only for the withdrawal of money, I would still understand you. And so .... not a convincing argument
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 4 March 2021 16: 13
            -10%
            Quote: nnm

            If state-owned companies were not structurally overloaded monsters,

            There is some truth.

            Quote: nnm

            intended only for withdrawal of money

            Withdrawal to the country's budget ...
            1. nnm
              nnm 4 March 2021 16: 16
              +7
              I beg you .... Does Rosgeftegaz donate a lot to the budget?)))) At best, half. And only that which, well, they could not "master" themselves, go to the budget.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 4 March 2021 16: 23
                -12%
                What is Rosneftegaz? And there are so many. Including dividends even more.
                1. nnm
                  nnm 4 March 2021 16: 26
                  +2
                  How wonderful it is! You talk about questions, but you yourself don't understand the details. Curiosity, colleague, you will discover a lot of interesting things about how the state "receives" dividends into the budget.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 4 March 2021 19: 08
                    -6
                    I'm sorry, all legal entities I can not know. But I am good at reading financial documents that companies issue. They either have dividends or not. We open the financial report the last available for example Gazprom and study)
              2. Nasrat
                Nasrat 4 March 2021 16: 28
                -13%
                Quote: nnm
                I beg you .... Does Rosgeftegaz donate a lot to the budget?)))) At best, half. And only that which, well, they could not "master" themselves, go to the budget.

                Exploration, test drilling and so on - be healthy doing this !!! ???
                In other matters, I'm not going to overpersuade ..
                1. nnm
                  nnm 4 March 2021 16: 35
                  +7
                  Do you understand what you write ???? And here is exploration, drilling, etc., if we are talking about the distribution of NET profit to shareholders, that is, the proceeds remaining AFTER payment for all exploration, drilling, etc.
                2. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 4 March 2021 17: 24
                  +8
                  Quote: Nasr
                  And so on

                  We have already seen the results of spending "on other things" ... Deripaska, Potanin ... Then the hero from labor made a statement about the ownership of the palace in the Krasnodar Territory (forgetting to show the certificate of payment of taxes since 2012 in the amount of 0,001%). I think that a hundred billion has run over a lot?
                  Other things, you say?
        2. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 4 March 2021 15: 49
          +2
          Why do you think so? I am only writing about the distribution of income from mineral resources. All the subsoil of Norway belongs by law to the people of Norway and therefore oil and gas are produced only by a state-owned company! How was this colossal fund formed? The fund was founded in 1998 and Norway sent all the country's oil and gas revenues there. The fund's funds are invested in various assets around the world. Now it exceeds $ 1 trillion.
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 4 March 2021 16: 09
            -15%
            Quote: Hunter 2
            Why do you think so? I am only writing about the distribution of income from mineral resources. All the subsoil of Norway belongs by law to the people of Norway and therefore oil and gas are produced only by a state-owned company! How was this colossal fund formed? The fund was founded in 1998 and Norway sent all the country's oil and gas revenues there. The fund's funds are invested in various assets around the world. Now it exceeds $ 1 trillion.

            I would have discussed with you ... but I don't see the point ... after all, you really think that someone owes you something ... hi
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 4 March 2021 16: 32
              +2
              Quote: Nasr

              I would have discussed with you ... but I don't see the point ... after all, you really think that someone owes you something ... hi

              Yes, where did you get that belay? I don’t ask anyone for any handouts, I’m building my own well-being. The question is completely different, the nationalization of natural resources is quite a normal practice, mining companies should receive money for their Work (for a good job - a lot, for a poor-quality job - just quit), and not become the owner of the resources. And the State Fund, accordingly, must use the income received, investing something, spending something on Budgetary expenditures (Defense, Medicine, Science, etc.).
        3. apro
          apro 4 March 2021 16: 01
          +6
          Quote: Nasr
          but we will have to abandon the ambitions of an independent power ...

          They refused so long ago. In fact, there is a raw material appendage. Industrial capacities have long been out of line with a superpower.
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 4 March 2021 16: 07
            -13%
            Quote: apro

            They refused so long ago. In fact, there is a raw material appendage. Industrial capacities have long been out of line with a superpower.

            And we are not talking about a superpower ... just an empire! With a decent industry that allows her to pursue an independent policy.
            1. apro
              apro 4 March 2021 16: 11
              +4
              Quote: Nasr
              With a decent industry that allows her to pursue an independent policy.

              ??? that is, not to depend on imported components ??? self-developed ??? but nothing that part of the industry has foreign owners? but there will be enough competence ???
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 4 March 2021 16: 24
                -13%
                And in which country does some of the companies have foreign owners?))))
            2. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 4 March 2021 18: 10
              +8
              And we are not talking about a superpower ... just an empire! With decent industry


              In mechanical engineering, your empire is on the 21st place in the world. This is right after the Romanian Empire .... they are at the twentieth. laughing

              Why the hell did you kill the Tsar if you want the empire? These are your new nobles .... generally have a bourgeois taste for palaces. No understanding of architecture and grace ... laughing
      2. clerk
        clerk 4 March 2021 18: 00
        -6
        ... In general, I for the FIRST time in my life partially agree with Svarog! There needs to be a fairer and more transparent distribution of Mineral revenues. For example, like in Norway!
        What would be "like in Norway" oil in Russia should be produced 3,5 times more than is produced now. Therefore, it is not clear to me - why are you repeating the nonsense of illiterate ballpoint ones?
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 4 March 2021 18: 51
          +3
          Tell me, what else is produced in Norway besides oil? Only coal, in fact, and bioresources. I can count very well, just for information. So in Russia, all types of minerals are mined, the level of extraction of biological resources is also orders of magnitude higher. So now try to explain that oil needs to be produced 3.5 times more. Of course, I do not agree with the "fellowship of the trade", on absolutely other key issues, except for the use of natural and biological resources ... in fact, for this I get my "stable" disadvantages.
          1. clerk
            clerk 4 March 2021 19: 23
            -5
            ... Tell me, what else is produced in Norway besides oil? Only coal, in fact, and bioresources. I can count very well, just for information. So in Russia, all types of minerals are mined, the level of extraction of biological resources is also orders of magnitude higher. So now try to explain that oil needs to be produced 3.5 times more.
            The population of Russia is 25 times the population of Norway. Therefore, talk about other large production of minerals (scanty against the background of oil and gas) is empty - what is produced in Russia is mainly consumed in Russia (except for oil and gas).
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 4 March 2021 19: 30
              +2
              Quote: clerk
              Therefore, talk about other large production of minerals (scanty against the background of oil and gas) is empty - what is produced in Russia is mainly consumed in Russia (except for oil and gas).

              So, in April and May last 2020, Russian companies sold 65,4 tons of gold abroad. The amount of metal exports amounted to $ 3,55 billion, PRIME reports with reference to the data of the Federal Customs Service (FCS) and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

              At the same time, the export deliveries of "blue fuel" in April and May brought Gazprom (a monopoly on the market for export of pipeline gas from Russia) $ 2,4 billion, and for the entire II quarter of the year, such sales amounted to $ 3,5 billion. according to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the minimum value for the quarter since 2002. Is it worth continuing? wink
              1. clerk
                clerk 4 March 2021 19: 48
                -6
                .
                So, in April and May last 2020, Russian companies sold 65,4 tons of gold abroad. The amount of metal exports amounted to $ 3,55 billion, PRIME reports with reference to the data of the Federal Customs Service (FCS) and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

                At the same time, the export deliveries of "blue fuel" in April and May brought Gazprom (a monopoly on the market for export of pipeline gas from Russia) $ 2,4 billion, and for the entire II quarter of the year, such sales amounted to $ 3,5 billion. according to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the minimum value for the quarter since 2002. Is it worth continuing? wink
                Of course. Separately, the sum of Russian exports of oil and gas and separately the export of gold for the entire last year (or at least for 11 months) will you give? And also a comparison of the volume of exploited gold over the past 5 years with the volume of its production in Russia for the same time. Leave the sample numbers only for 2 months in ball-point form - you can't get me through such juggling. I am also good at counting. laughing
                1. Hunter 2
                  Hunter 2 4 March 2021 20: 04
                  +3
                  Here are the data for 2018, look for others yourself. This did not include just the export of Gold, Silver, Platinum, Precious stones and many other things (bioresources).
                  In 2020, gold trading brought more than 9% of export earnings.
                  1. Russia's revenues from oil exports in 2018 increased by 38,2% compared to the previous year and amounted to $ 129,05 billion, according to data from the Federal Customs Service (FCS).

                  The total volume of oil exports for 12 months increased by 2,9% - up to 260,2 million tons.

                  The grand total is $ 129,05 billion.


                  2.Gas

                  As for gas, in 2018 the Russian Federation increased its exports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) by 50,4% compared to 2017 - to 36,7 million cubic meters, and natural gas exports - by 4,9%, to 220,6 billion cubic meters.

                  Russia's revenues from LNG exports in 2018 increased by 66,5% compared to 2017, reaching $ 5,286 billion.

                  Russia's revenues from natural gas exports in 2018 increased by 28,8% to $ 49,1 billion. Gas exports in December decreased by 1,4% compared to November - to 18,4 billion cubic meters. There is no information on gas export revenues in December.

                  The grand total is $ 23.686 billion.

                  3. Coal

                  The Russian Federation's revenues from the export of coal in 2018 increased by 25,9% compared to the same period last year and amounted to $ 17,031 billion.

                  In physical terms, the volume of coal exports from the Russian Federation increased by 10% over the year, to 199,472 million tons.

                  The grand total is $ 17.03 billion.

                  4. Electricity.

                  Electricity exports from Russia in 2018 increased by 4,3% compared to 2017 - up to 17,74 billion kWh.

                  Electricity export revenues in January-December increased by 26,3% to $ 808,9 million.

                  The grand total is $ 0.808 billion.

                  5. Aluminum and metals.

                  Russian exports of aluminum in January-September 2018 increased in value terms compared to the same period a year earlier by 21,4%, to $ 4,005 billion, follows from the materials of the Federal Customs Service (FCS).

                  The annual income from the export of aluminum is approximately $ 5 billion.

                  6.Copper export
                  Revenues from the export of Russian copper in January-September 2018 increased compared to the same period last year by 23%, to $ 3,1 billion, from the export of nickel - by 36,1%, to $ 1,37 billion.

                  Annual income from copper exports - $ 1.675 billion

                  7. Export of ferrous metals.

                  Russia's exports of ferrous metals in January-September 2018 increased in value terms compared to the same period a year earlier by 31,6%, to $ 17,6 billion.

                  Annual income from the export of ferrous metals - $ 22 billion

                  8. Forest.

                  Russia remains the fifth largest timber harvesting country, despite having the largest forest areas in the world.

                  Russia ranks fifth in the world in terms of logging volumes. At the same time, the volume of harvesting in 1990 was more than 300 million m3. Today, the first places are occupied by the United States (the volume of procurement exceeds the Russian by 2 times), China, India, Brazil. Also, the ten largest timber procurers include: Canada, Indonesia, Sweden, Finland, Germany. The share of Russia in the world timber harvesting is 6%.

                  In 2018, there was an increase in the export of wood products across the entire range (sawn timber + 1%, plywood + 8%, chipboard + 15%, fiberboard + 10%, pulp and paper products + 6%), wood harvesting increased by 7%. The export of forestry products of the Russian Federation exceeded $ 11 billion.

                  The grand total is $ 11 billion.

                  Well, now, as they say, the results will be similar.
                  So, only 8 branches of natural resources brought Russia - 210.249 billion dollars.
                  1. clerk
                    clerk 4 March 2021 20: 47
                    -6
                    ... So, only 8 branches of natural resources brought Russia - 210.249 billion dollars.
                    And since when have smelted metals, produced electricity or timber products become "natural resources"? This is already a clear and undisguised drawing of an owl on the globe. So, apart from coal, you have nothing to add to the export of oil and gas. By the way, only 2018 tons of gold were exported in 10, against 220 in 2020. While refined gold is exported, which is far from being a raw material. So, whatever you twist, but in the export of natural raw materials, oil and gas occupies 80-90%.
    3. nnm
      nnm 4 March 2021 15: 47
      +6
      I represent. The simplest example is buying your own hydrocarbons in everything from gasoline to communal apartments. Why on earth do I get the price of my own resource in the final price?
  • LifeIsGood
    LifeIsGood 4 March 2021 15: 51
    -9
    And what doesn't it get? Turn on your brain ... The proceeds from the sale of Gas and Oil go to the country's budget and this money is used to build roads, bridges, factories, pay salaries, finance research institutes, the Army, and so on.
    But you are only worried about your personal pocket, as I see "how much money, but I personally do not drip into my wallet !!! I want to sit on my priest doing absolutely nothing and ride a Ferrari"
    Sick to read this ...
    If you want more money, open your own business, if you do not want a business, master a highly profitable profession.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 4 March 2021 16: 04
      +7
      The proceeds go to shareholders. A small portion of taxes goes to the budget.
      1. nnm
        nnm 4 March 2021 16: 21
        +4
        But only one shareholder, namely the Russian Federation, gets very much in a truncated form)))) Or do you not know how our leading state-owned companies pay "revenues" to the budget in the relevant part?)))
      2. LifeIsGood
        LifeIsGood 4 March 2021 17: 44
        -6
        Yeah ... you should have studied the question first. 40% of Rosneft shares are owned by the state + The company pays taxes, so most of the income goes to the state to the budget!

        Stop crying already ... maybe you should start thinking at least sometimes that you are writing and checking the information? And then they heard from my grandmother on the bench about "how bad everything is" and took it for an axiom.
    2. clerk
      clerk 4 March 2021 18: 04
      -4
      ... And what doesn't it get? Turn on your brain ... The proceeds from the sale of Gas and Oil go to the country's budget and this money is used to build roads, bridges, factories, pay salaries, finance research institutes, the Army, and so on.
      Unfortunately, their brain does not turn on. All the filling has turned to dust. The only thing left is the organ - "Drive out Putin and divide everything up."
      1. LifeIsGood
        LifeIsGood 4 March 2021 18: 08
        -3
        Exactly!! You read and are amazed ... It seems that people are adults, they got their education back in the Soviet Union (although it’s not clear what they don’t like about the present, they probably don’t know themselves), but they write such nonsense ...
    3. awdrgy
      awdrgy 5 March 2021 20: 13
      0
      Some "those" are not correct .. so you can stay without the population Although in the 90s it was- "there should be only one left" - this is about all kinds of businessmen and - "less people, more oxygen" is just about fools .. What actually has shown the current situation in the country (collapse of the economy, crisis of demography, etc.) Why does benz rise in price when wages are stagnating !? Understand the people do not care about all the explanations There is a refrigerator there is a car there is a high-quality warm shoes there is the power of the state (for a few ideological ones) and there is an absence of this ... And there is a body driving a Ferrari he lives on the moon And it is known for him that he stuck to the money from the sale of resources in one way or another And people have a refrigerator and a car ... And even if the people are weak and not organized, you still need to be able to share because you can simply be left without people with all the consequences Of course, if this is the ultimate goal, then your comment is correct.
  • clerk
    clerk 4 March 2021 17: 32
    -4
    ... Every citizen of the state should receive dividends from natural resources. In this case, it will be fair and you can worry .. but now, really, absolutely no sense.
    The current market of all (!) Oil and gas condensate produced in Russia (at a price of $ 60 / barrel and the exchange rate of $ 75 / $) is about 10 thousand rubles per month for each resident, including old people and babies. What part of this amount do you think it is fair to hand out to the people of Russia as dividends from natural resources?
  • sheet
    sheet 4 March 2021 20: 19
    -7
    Quote: Svarog
    Every citizen of the state should receive dividends from natural resources.

    How will you divide the dividends? Regardless of age, presence / absence of work, salary, bank account, criminal record, etc.
    This is not sarcasm, just healthy curiosity - how do you imagine that? After all, there are always dissatisfied people who think that someone should get less. For example, have you planned payments to the deputies?
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 March 2021 15: 45
    -16%
    Make changes to the Constitution and achieve implementation, the people will carry you in their arms. Your idea, you and to bring it to life. No kidding. good
    And on VO what's the use of ranting. request
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 March 2021 16: 05
    -7
    As you, my friend, the pipe has struck something. winked
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 4 March 2021 17: 03
    +8
    Quote: Aerodrome
    honestly, everything is according to the "gladiolus" already with these pipes ...

    request
    Quote: Svarog
    Every citizen of the state should receive dividends from natural resources.

    good
    Let me tell you what, dear colleagues "in the shop". No matter how much we express our own points of view on the problems of Russian life, all their usefulness, correctness or madness will remain in the VO archive (at best). We have already been told about "the planned end of construction in June 2021" and offered to be patient. Nobody can say for sure when the SP-2 will be completed, but it will happen (it should happen).
    One thing is certain, that neither this construction, nor gas supplies to Germany, nor the profit from these supplies, nor the operating modes of the Ukrainian pipe, nor other circumstances will CHANGE OUR (ordinary citizens) life EVER !!! The board of directors has completely different concerns. Everyone sees this, everyone understands this, everyone knows the reasons for exactly this alignment, but not a single "patriot" can tell us the benefits that will be received as a result of the RUSSIAN ECONOMY and how, in this regard, the social situation of those millions of residents who have national natural resources "zero" and "horseradish along".
    In this idle bustle, the problems of payment for Russian gas by Ukraine, the technical condition of this pipe (which would be “what the hell” and for whom to repair and maintain on its territory) and a number of other issues disappeared. Solving immediate tasks and problems is an existing practice for absolutely any sphere of Russian life.
  • antivirus
    antivirus 4 March 2021 18: 47
    +3
    97 comments have already passed and not everyone will read the ingenious thought - IT IS IMPORTANT HOW THE MONEY FROM GAS SUPPLIES IS USED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTRY, AND ON THE PIPES ITSELF, X-POSITION AND USE AS ANY SEWAGE IN THE COUNTRY. feeders in Europe have sucked, they must be respected (bought on the vine) against opponents of SP2, what will the Russian Federation get from that SP2? again import mashstroen from Germany and other "feeders"? all only their own - protectionism in favor of growing companies (in spite of the western ones) for the bad words addressed to us.
  • businessv
    businessv 4 March 2021 15: 33
    +6
    Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev said in an interview with Russian media that the pipeline would be completed.
    Oh, well, now - then I'm definitely calm! If he said, he will certainly do it! Twitter to help him, poor fellow! If his words are cast in granite, what doubts can we talk about ?! What’s interesting to me is, it seems to me alone that Academician Chersky has been used only as a pleasure yacht since 2019? Respect to the authors and thank you - succinctly, briefly and only to the point! good
  • Tagan
    Tagan 4 March 2021 15: 54
    -6
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Svetlana
    Dividends are received from investments. What have you invested in natural resources?

    My grandfathers donated their blood ... they fought for this land, for my future, including for natural resources ... And what did those who now manage them put in? And where did they get what they invested?

    Grandfathers invested, and for what merits?
    Filling the budget and giving you a bonus along the way?
    Why is he so angry in the whole world - they were excommunicated from the babos)))
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 4 March 2021 16: 46
      +6
      Grandfathers invested, and for what merits?

      And then let us take away everything that a person has gained in his life - after his death, immediately in favor of Putin's oligarchs? Why should children-grandchildren inherit - they don't have any merits in an apartment-dacha-car? What is their inheritance for? From the logic of the Zaputins - at times you just fucking ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 March 2021 15: 57
    +1
    Straight, straight detective !!!
    We are waiting for the result, but it is written on the last page.
  • nnm
    nnm 4 March 2021 16: 09
    +6
    I look, the war has gone in earnest)))
    For those who write that the amount of payments will be penny - and why, for example, not consider the option of an analogue of the Singapore system, where a citizen's fund is formed in solidarity with the state. From which pensions, the purchase of real estate are paid, shares of a state company are bought, medicine is paid, etc. Let it be transferred to this fund to the individual account of each citizen. And the person will independently decide according to the rules formed by the state on what and how much to spend. But this method will directly reduce the same budget spending on pensions, medicine, preferential mortgages, etc. What then is the problem if the money from the subsoil goes immediately to the final recipients - people, and this will reduce budget expenditures by exactly the same amount and even give an opportunity for the growth of private investment?))
    But in essence, this is all talk in favor of the poor. The modern system in the country is based on the results of Chubais's privatization. And like any system, it will defend itself to the last. Therefore, all these conversations are conversations about nothing. All this money has already been divided in the heads of the current beneficiaries and they will definitely not share it. And nothing will change that. In this historical period, at least.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 4 March 2021 16: 11
    +4
    Quote: Svetlana
    The privatization process in the post-Soviet space is a separate story. It is not necessary to mix everything in one heap.

    Yes, we remember. This is different .. laughing
  • WHAT IS
    WHAT IS 4 March 2021 16: 22
    +17
    Quote: Svarog
    except for oil and gas ... there is gold, diamonds, minerals, timber

    Each resident of Alaska received from the US government his share of the state's oil revenues in the amount of $ 1600. At the same time, since 2000, each resident of Alaska has already been paid $ 24. That is, an average family of three has received payments from oil state revenues of $ 800.
    But these are really small things, since every resident of the state of Alaska also receives a monthly payment of $ 1000 just for the fact that gold is mined in the state.
    Why don't we receive such payments?
    The authorities explain this injustice very simply: our country is large, which means that there will not be enough money for everyone. In our country, everything happens like this: the population of Russia is large, we extract a lot, but it makes no sense to divide into all citizens, because very small payments will be obtained. ... Therefore, we decided to select some of the most worthy of our fellow citizens and give them the opportunity to appropriate colossal amounts of money from the income from the sale of natural resources. And if anything else remains, then it can be used for social programs. Of course not. For example, the salary of Sechin, the head of Rosneft, is from 15 million to 20 million rubles. per month.
    According to unofficial data, the monthly salary of the head of Gazprom, which is a “national treasure”, Miller, is generally about 56 million rubles. (almost 2 million rubles per day).
    So we live - some have empty cabbage soup, and some have shallow pearls.
    1. LifeIsGood
      LifeIsGood 4 March 2021 18: 48
      -7
      Each resident of Alaska received from the US government his share of the state's oil revenues in the amount of $ 1600. At the same time, since 2000, each resident of Alaska has already been paid $ 24. That is, an average family of three has received payments from oil state revenues of $ 800.
      But these are really small things, since every resident of the state of Alaska also receives a monthly payment of $ 1000 just for the fact that gold is mined in the state.
      Why don't we receive such payments?

      Have you ever thought about the fact that the population of the State is only 740 people? And the population of Russia is over 000 million.
      Further on, your comment is already possible and not to read populist delirium and cry for an incomprehensible reason why and how ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 4 March 2021 19: 18
        +4
        Quote: LifeIsGood
        And the population of Russia is over 150 million.

        What century was it? belay
        1. LifeIsGood
          LifeIsGood 4 March 2021 20: 14
          -7
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: LifeIsGood
          And the population of Russia is over 150 million.

          What century was it? belay


          Yes, I was a bit mistaken by taking an approximate number. Although not much wrong - as of January 1, 2021, 146,2 million people.
          But your exclamation raises strong doubts in the sense that you even know the approximate number of the population of your country.
          Are you generally a resident of Russia? Maybe there is Shprotia or Ukraine?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 4 March 2021 21: 19
            +1
            Quote: LifeIsGood
            Are you generally a resident of Russia? Maybe there is Shprotia or Ukraine?

            Strongly - they themselves burst, but I am to blame! good However, this is the norm for Zaputins. laughing
            In fact, the population is shrinking, not growing.
            1. LifeIsGood
              LifeIsGood 5 March 2021 10: 40
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72

              Strongly - they themselves burst, but I am to blame! good
              In fact, the population is shrinking, not growing.

              No, not much, I gave an approximate number, an exact figure was not required from me. At least I at least remembered that the population of Russia is somewhere within this figure. By your answer, you directly expressed extreme doubt that I am rude and much mistaken.
              However, this is the norm for Zaputins. laughing

              Well, for your brethren, a follower of Provalnoye, the norm is to slander your country. Disgusting as much ... negative

              There is nothing to translate the "arrows", you never answered the question, but beautifully tried to "move out" and divert the conversation aside. Hence the conclusions ...
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 5 March 2021 20: 45
                -1
                Quote: LifeIsGood
                em not much, I gave an approximate number, the exact figure was not required from me

                Have you ever thought about the paradox that errors in utility bills are solely in favor of the Criminal Code? wink
                Quote: LifeIsGood
                Well, for your brethren, a follower of Provalnoye, the norm is to slander your country. Disgusting as much ...

                I am a much more vile type - by my views an inveterate monarchist, but by conviction I am drowning for the red idea. laughing so Navalny is more your type.
                And I detest vile people who justify the genocide of their people. And there are many of them here.
                Quote: LifeIsGood
                you never answered the question, but tried beautifully

                If you don't want stupid answers, don't ask stupid questions. wink
  • BAI
    BAI 4 March 2021 16: 27
    +3
    1.
    we expect not to stop collecting reports from the gas fronts, at least until the first cubic meters of Russian gas are pumped through the second Nord Stream.

    Do not be like Rogozin. The deadline is uncertainty. This has already been done in 2019.
    2.
    the Pioneering Spirit pipelayer may resume work on the project.

    This is interesting news. The construction situation could improve significantly.
    3.
    A transit trade agreement was signed until 2024 with the possibility of prolongation, although gas supplies via SP-2 to Germany, for example, will be obviously cheaper.

    Transit through Ukraine is inevitable. There is no other way to Southeast Europe. And contracts for the supply of gas have long been concluded. And they are long-term.
  • ximkim
    ximkim 4 March 2021 17: 43
    +4
    No sanctions will stop the gasification of Europe. Supporters and opponents of SP-2 will not remain without gas. While the gas war is going on, there are financial losses that need to be replenished somehow, which means that Gazprom is simply forced to raise prices on the domestic market. Treat with understanding!
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 4 March 2021 19: 23
      +2
      Yes, all of the Russian Federation for the freezing Europeans are sick, malnourished, dying, but we persistently continue to establish a comfortable life in Europe.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 4 March 2021 21: 51
      0
      Quote: ximkim
      No sanctions will stop the gasification of Europe.

      What about the gasification of Russia?
      A total of 11 regions of Russia are 100% gasified.
      “In Russia, the cost of connecting gas to a house exceeds 400 thousand rubles, and the term of their implementation reaches two years in different regions,” - Turchak.
      1. ximkim
        ximkim 5 March 2021 05: 17
        0
        The government makes it clear that if you want gas in the house, then you need to change the region or buy an apartment in a gas-equipped building. Let it be for now...
  • Tagan
    Tagan 4 March 2021 17: 56
    -3
    Quote: paul3390
    Grandfathers invested, and for what merits?

    And then let us take away everything that a person has gained in his life - after his death, immediately in favor of Putin's oligarchs? Why should children-grandchildren inherit - they don't have any merits in an apartment-dacha-car? What is their inheritance for? From the logic of the Zaputins - at times you just fucking ...

    These are just your painful conclusions.
    Regarding the "zaputintsy".
    According to your skewed logic, I can just ascribe you to the Liberator.
    Understand your "logic" for a start.))
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 4 March 2021 19: 20
    -1
    Well, the fears of amers on ukram are understandable, hence the political pressure on Europe. Ams own ukrami while we and the EU contain them, as soon as the tap closes, so ukrov will have to be maintained by the states and this is oh, how inconvenient for them, and in general they exclusively want to rule and play around with nishtyaks. So they are blackmailing everyone to be fed ukrov. Without amers, no one will need Ukrainians at all,
  • 123456789
    123456789 4 March 2021 20: 46
    0
    Recall that earlier Denmark was one of the most active opponents of the Nord Stream 2 project, considering it a threat not only to the ecology of the Baltic Sea, but also to shipping (Danish Gas Games. Nord Stream is being put in line).

    However, at the end of 2020, the position of the Danes changed. You can say, fundamentally. In addition to issuing all necessary building permits in EEZ countries, it turned out that several Danish companies were involved in the project.

    Have you tried to build past the EEZ? laughing A design error that cost the country a reputation loss. The country must know its heroes laughing
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 4 March 2021 21: 33
    -2
    Fortuna is working on line B, 13,9 km remain to be laid in the German zone and 33 km in the Danish zone. Line A is 88 km.
  • sannyhome
    sannyhome 5 March 2021 11: 31
    0
    Quote: Aerodrome
    miller, sechin, mishustin, rotenberg, etc., of course, they are interested. to look at this, because they "invested"

    That's all right. The media are trying to substitute the concepts of "Gazprom" and "Russia", but this is crap. This is not a war between peoples, this is a competitive struggle between shale producers from the United States and gas producers from the Russian Federation.
    But on the other hand, it's like in football - you want the Russian team to win.
  • sannyhome
    sannyhome 5 March 2021 11: 34
    0
    Quote: WHAT IS
    Each resident of Alaska received from the US government his share of the state's oil revenues in the amount of $ 1600

    For a second - Alaska has always been a subsidized state. There have always been infusions, they have never made a profit. And this money is not money from oil revenues, it is money from the country's budget. That the people from there did not run away at all.
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 5 March 2021 13: 11
    0
    3% of the population owns 90% of all funds and benefits .. the rest of the people owns only 1/10 of all the wealth of the country ..
    And the Dazdraputs here tell you that if you divide by all, then the penny will be obtained .. But somehow "for a penny" 90% flowed into someone else's pocket ..
  • IPC 245
    IPC 245 9 March 2021 06: 12
    +9
    Quote: Stroporez
    There is no justice under capitalism! Leave the illusion!

    Quite right, there was justice in the Soviet Union ..
  • ab111
    ab111 11 March 2021 16: 28
    0
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    you need not give a person a fish, but help him make a fishing rod.

    And according to my observations, very few people already want to fish ... Even to go for free fish is too lazy! It is necessary that it is free and also with delivery to the refrigerator.
  • Jolly Roger
    Jolly Roger 17 March 2021 16: 22
    +5
    if Germany takes a firm position on the project and does not bend under the position of the United States, nothing can prevent the launch of SP-2.

    Let's see how the Germans will behave in this situation. It's always bad (even in sports, even in politics) when the result depends not only on you.