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Honored Pilot of the Russian Federation: China is interested in buying the Su-57, since it does not have full-fledged new generation fighters

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Recently, the foreign press has begun to pay much more attention to the Russian new generation Su-57 fighter. This is due, among other things, to the sounded information about the options for its tests. Among these options are tests with an intra-fuselage hypersonic missile, as well as a continuation aviation "Collaborations" with the heavy attack drone "Hunter" of the S-70 project. Interest in the Su-57 fighter is great, but so far potential foreign customers, so to speak, are holding a “mkhatov pause”, not rushing events with possible orders for the supply of the latest Russian combat aircraft.


The situation with how high the export potential of the Su-57 is, especially for the "Military Review" was commented on by the honored pilot of Russia Yuri Sytnik, representing the senior officers of the "Officers of Russia" organization.
According to the expert, today many partners of Russia, which usually purchase from our country weapon and military equipment are actually in a wait-and-see position. They are waiting for when the Su-57 fighters will receive the engines of the second stage, how they will show themselves in the course of comprehensive tests, when they begin to enter serially into the Russian Aerospace Forces.

Yuri Sytnik noted that such countries as China, Algeria, Malaysia and India could become potential buyers of the Su-57, although India had previously withdrawn from a joint project to create a new generation FGFA fighter.

Yuri Sytnik:

China is interested in buying the Su-57 from Russia. They are used to copying technology, both military and space. At the same time, they, in fact, do not have a full-fledged 5th generation fighter. Their J-20s continue to fly on Russian engines, and theirs clearly fall short of the 5th generation. Therefore, China may be the first to order a batch.

At the same time, China does not pay any attention to the well-known American package of restrictive measures CAATSA. Recall that with these measures, the United States is trying to promote unfair competition, threatening with sanctions all those who cooperate with the Russian Federation in the military-technical sphere. At the moment, the United States is actively promoting such a threat against India in connection with the purchase of the S-400 air defense system.
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  1. Terrible_L.
    Terrible_L. 1 March 2021 14: 22
    +20
    China and others like it will wait. First, your videoconferencing needs to be saturated with such aircraft. And the export potential is undoubtedly good, but still secondary.
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 1 March 2021 14: 24
      +8
      Why not sell the export version only if the batch is 100 pieces.
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 1 March 2021 14: 41
        +3
        At least one hundred. Better two hundred.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 1 March 2021 16: 59
          +4
          Ага.
          And payment in advance with a deferred delivery of the first 3 years, but an installment plan for the end of delivery for 4 years.
          During this time, we will have time to supply a couple of new factories (aviation and propulsion), and rivet half of the total amount of the order for ourselves, and launch the engine plant on a series (someone will have to assemble, in addition to the expected Su-57 engine of the second version) thousands more engines for thousands of drones). Moreover, prepare a full set of workers for ALL high-tech industries, and add engines for wide-body workers and firefighters (the world has been queuing for Taganrog barrels for 20 years!) - you can take a loan from the Chinese for this business. The Chinese themselves still do not own the craft of engine building the way we do it. lol
      2. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 1 March 2021 15: 53
        +10
        Now imagine how long it will take us to make these 100 pieces. winked
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 1 March 2021 21: 38
          +1
          That will be a reason to increase the power.
      3. Vadim F
        Vadim F 1 March 2021 19: 45
        -1
        where to get that many? while they will collect with pens, they will become obsolete :)))
    2. Ramadan
      Ramadan 1 March 2021 14: 28
      +6
      It is necessary to increase production capacity, because money is also needed.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 1 March 2021 15: 47
        +4
        Quote: Ramazan
        money is also needed.

        The money is there, the money box for today is 585 billion. dollars, you need a desire.
        And taking into account the fact that today the United States prints dollars like a mad printer, naturally reducing the price of the rest of the dollar mass, these 585 billion. is already slightly cheaper than a couple of years ago.
        You have to spend, you have to invest in your economy, and not keep in others.
        According to the article, I do not share the convictions of the honored pilot, China is developing its technologies at a frantic pace, in a year or two they will have their own engines, no worse than ours.
        In the meantime, their J-20 can be called a crude model, but so far the SU-57 is not completely dry either. But they already have it in the troops, and the pilots are practicing the necessary experience on it. hi
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 1 March 2021 17: 02
          +3
          If you heat up one place for Siluyanov and pinch the other, then the money will certainly be found, and if you connect a lady to the execution, then you can get hold of bucks from your own Bank.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 March 2021 17: 37
            0
            Quote: hydrox
            If you warm up one place for Siluyanov,

            Siluyanov, like the other ministers, are only conductors of the will of the head of state. request
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 1 March 2021 19: 28
              +2
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Siluyanov, like the other ministers, are only conductors of the will of the head of state.

              I am very uncomfortable, but Putin's Kremlin has not 2 towers, but about two dozen and everyone is at odds with each other: in one there are separate brigades of oligarchs, in the other heaps of bureaucrats, in the ninth he ate up hundreds of possible, I'm not talking about the coming agents , (infusion), herding at the tower number 6 ... laughing
              And Siluyanov and Nabiullina have their own bosses, sitting behind the hill, and GU VSHEY, creating a rotten atmosphere.
              Putin's "friends" in the Kremlin are good if he has a dozen and a half - how to make a right turn with such a flimsy squad - but there are real fighters (both with the letter B)
              1. mig29mks
                mig29mks 1 March 2021 20: 06
                0
                And who are these fighters with the letter B? Very interesting)
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 1 March 2021 20: 10
                  +2
                  Yes, what are you?
                  This is Belousov and Borisov!
                  Wait a minute, even before the end of March it may turn out that with us something will begin that will smell fried for some, while others will run to the store so that they will not be mistaken with a snack! laughing
                  1. mig29mks
                    mig29mks 1 March 2021 20: 28
                    +1
                    I don't know those))) dark as a closet))))
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 1 March 2021 20: 08
                0
                Quote: hydrox
                I'm not talking about the incoming agents of influence, (infusion), herding at tower number 6 ...

                On all counts! drinks But Putin is still the main one in this organized criminal group. wassat
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 2 March 2021 16: 46
                  0
                  Yes, but only for the time being: he can do anything with the inhabitants of the towers and apply any measures to them, up to the highest measure of social protection, then this can only continue until the statistic indicator "well-being of the people" is inexorable (even for 1-3% per year) but increase: where Mishustin will take finance for this, the people will not be interested at all, if the socially significant paternalistic indicators of the SOCIAL state will not sink (they just will not tolerate another people!).
        2. il-z
          il-z 2 March 2021 15: 07
          +1
          China is developing its technologies at a frantic pace, in a year or two they will have their own engines, no worse than ours
          maybe they will, maybe not, engines are very "fine matter", especially aviation ones. Here at least warm up the causal places, even pinch it will help a little. Well, at the level of statements that they (the Chinese) have them the best, this already exists, though with reservations ... that the fuel consumption of the "wrong system", etc.
    3. figwam
      figwam 1 March 2021 14: 43
      +6
      Quote: Scary_L.
      Your videoconferencing must first be satiated

      Can be produced in parallel.
      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 1 March 2021 15: 38
        +9
        Mattress covers did not sell their F-22 to anyone at all, even having under 200 units in service. Say you fools? I don’t think so.
      2. fa2998
        fa2998 1 March 2021 17: 02
        +3
        Usually, foreign customers look - this sample is in service with the manufacturing country. We have nothing to brag about - 1 (one) aircraft has been delivered, with the engine "taken" from another aircraft. While we "lick" the Su-57, competitors will fill the market with aircraft 5 generations. Yes, and the pace of production can upset the customer. hi
      3. Adimius38
        Adimius38 2 March 2021 23: 13
        0
        produce in parallel))) and there will be enough production capacity laughing
    4. Cowbra
      Cowbra 1 March 2021 14: 45
      +2
      How to say. The fact is that now no country in the world is pulling a full-fledged 5th generation program either in terms of science intensity or in terms of money. And this is a fact. If we want the 5th generation in the army, we have to sell the export, cut-down version.
      By the way, I don't think that by buying a couple of fighters and studying them, China will produce anything:
      Their J-20s continue to fly on Russian engines
      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 1 March 2021 15: 42
        +3
        Colleague, as I have already explained, I am not against export. But I think that first of all it is necessary to provide the 5th generation for our VKS / VVS.
        And the sale of a pair of fighters will not bring us big profits, but problems in the future may arise if the Chinese still manage to copy the engine
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 1 March 2021 16: 26
          +4
          Yuri Sytnik politely kept silent that according to avionics, the Chinese are rowing with all their fins, but according to engines ... yes, here the "secret of the company" is too tough, but this is still. judging by the imprisonment of China for victory in everything, the issue with the shoulder blades will still be resolved over time, and then, we will be moved from the table to the hallway ...
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 1 March 2021 17: 53
            +2
            In fact, the Chinese have been in service with our Su-30s for 27 years, but they still demand 6 engines from us for the Su-35, and for some reason ours don’t give more than 2 engines.
            And why would that be? laughing
      2. Adimius38
        Adimius38 2 March 2021 23: 10
        -1
        Oh, really, is it laughing And the USA does not pull the 5th generation laughing but what about the F-22 "Raptor" which riveted 195 cars and operation since 1997))) but what about the F-35 more than 615 cars have been produced since 2012. China has the money but does not yet have the necessary technologies. Russia has money, but corruption, therefore, everything moves on with great brakes, like the same su-57, armata, mig-35. As well as programs for attack drones.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 2 March 2021 23: 56
          -2
          The news slipped past you that the F-22 project was closed, when exactly because the United States did not pull it for the money? You've probably never heard that the F-35 project is never produced by one country, but far beyond a dozen? Moreover, the F-35 project has already been officially declared a failure. A project has been launched to replace the F-35, which, by the way, have not been able to pass the final state tests in 20 years and therefore are still being produced in pre-series, the status is limited combat capability? And that they did not fit into the framework of the 5th generation, for example, without receiving a cruising supersonic?
          Well, then you at least glean information on the topic, otherwise talk to you like a blind man about a picture
          1. Adimius38
            Adimius38 3 March 2021 06: 40
            -1
            F-35 project officially failed laughing I wonder where laughing in the Russian press laughing this "failed" project was produced in the amount of more than 600 machines and has a portfolio of orders that never dreamed of mig-35, su-35, su-57 combined
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 3 March 2021 08: 30
              -1
              The air force finally is coming to terms with the failure of the monopolistic F-35 program

              https://www.forbes.com/search/?q=f-35&sh=7ce54e59279f
              It is clear that the Chukchi are not a reader. Take a walk.
    5. Adimius38
      Adimius38 2 March 2021 23: 00
      -1
      you think so, but I think if they wave a good green piece of paper in front of the Kremlin, then our Russian Air Force will most likely wait. And China needs only one thing - to disassemble everything by rivets, copy and bring to mind its miracle of technology.
    6. Adimius38
      Adimius38 2 March 2021 23: 17
      0
      It is a stupid mistake to supply the SU-57 to other countries. Even if the United States supplies the F-35, it is only to the allies that are completely controlled by them. Putting it in fraternal Belarus is another matter, but no further. But now it all comes down to business for a long dollar, ready to sell everything
    7. eleronn
      eleronn 3 March 2021 00: 18
      0
      Well, how many years will we "saturate"? Will we collect 20 units in 50 years? I don’t understand why you believe in the tale of invisibility in the radar range? Where does this nonsense come from? Who set the criteria for a fifth generation aircraft?
  2. newcomer
    newcomer 1 March 2021 14: 29
    -1
    Considering the failure of the F35 and the closure of the F22 series (moreover, the Yankees dream of bungling something like a generation 4 machine plus using a 4th generation glider, replacing the failed 35th), let's add here the stupidity of the Indians, we will attract the frankly ambiguity of the Chinese copy to the kid and get a worldwide interest in the SU57.
    1. Mikhail Malakhov_2
      Mikhail Malakhov_2 2 March 2021 05: 41
      0
      What kind of failure is such an F-35 interesting?)
      How is this failure expressed?
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 2 March 2021 13: 52
        0
        Is it not written in Russian? Refusal to purchase the F35 due to the impossibility of their operation, due to endless unsolvable problems and redirect funding to the program for the development of a single-engine 4 plus fighter based on a four-plane airframe. So clearer or more DETAILED and CAREFULLY ???! fool
        1. Mikhail Malakhov_2
          Mikhail Malakhov_2 2 March 2021 15: 30
          -2
          Did you read Rogers as I understand it?)
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 2 March 2021 16: 30
            +1
            But I'm wondering what you read and whether you read at all. Is Rogers an expert? You can not answer, sharpen instead of lassa, take a walk on air sites, if you are interested, of course, and not just exhale the air. fool
        2. Adimius38
          Adimius38 3 March 2021 06: 46
          -1
          More than 600 cars were produced and a queue of buyers for the F-35. They just don't need it anymore, it's easier and cheaper to make an addition for it in the form of new F-15s. In turn, the F-22 riveted about 200 cars and that's enough. And do not think that they will now rivet only generation 4+, all their strength is now thrown at the new generation 5+ or 6.
  3. RealPilot
    RealPilot 1 March 2021 14: 31
    +3
    Quote: marchcat
    Why not sell the export version only if the batch is 100 pieces.

    And they will ask .. Five.
    And we must send them for a walk!

    Their "copier" and "vacuum cleaner" will not solve the issue with us with money tongue
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 1 March 2021 15: 43
      +1
      I support your opinion
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 1 March 2021 14: 36
    -1
    Honored Pilot of the Russian Federation: China is interested in buying the Su-57, since it does not have full-fledged new generation fighters
    No and never will. Engines-s. request Even if the entire "Motor Sich" is transplanted together with a staff of specialists to China, the result will not be soon. And the Su-57E, as much as you like, but money in advance!
    And then the Su-57 joined the ranks of the RF Air Force. request
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 1 March 2021 15: 03
      +2
      The Chinese will not leave after Ukraine's scam from Motor Sich. But the kitchen knives are already sharpening. ))
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 1 March 2021 18: 45
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Even if the entire "Motor Sich" is transplanted together with a staff of specialists to China, the result will not be soon.

      And there will be no result. Or do you think that there are still highly skilled workers left in the square when the machine building was killed, to whom technologists go for advice, if they can be counted in Russia too, being able to count up to a thousand?
      So to raise the motor production - this is how many years of continuous work of master-mentors, and there is nowhere to take them. They will appear only if the entire shop collectives are provided with salaries of about a hundred, and not in Moscow, but in any district town, and keep this brand not for a year or two, but five and seven ...
      Or try to return them to the production without taking away the pension? ...
  5. Cockroach Zee
    Cockroach Zee 1 March 2021 14: 39
    +6
    Why not give the second stage to yourself for export with these engines? Why the heck give a new engine to the same China for study?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 1 March 2021 15: 08
      -7
      Quote: Cockroach Zi
      Why not give the second stage for export with these engines? Why the heck give a new engine to the same China for study?
      fool Give the new engine to study even a monkey, even you, even China, the result is the same. fool Are there many Chinese S-400s flying over China? And other clones? AKM cannot really do it, all the Chinese replica is obtained. request
      1. Cockroach Zee
        Cockroach Zee 1 March 2021 15: 13
        +9
        Well, why was it necessary to be rude, bydlot? How much has China made its counterparts on our developments, and how many potential billions have passed us by because of them? I thought it was understandable even to you, even to the monkey.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 1 March 2021 15: 29
          -9
          Quote: Cockroach Zi
          Well, why was it necessary to be rude, bydlot?

          Why, bydlot will go faster fool The Americans bought the R-30 engines 110 years ago, and they fly, nothing like request ... And their technology is not Chinese.
          1. Cockroach Zee
            Cockroach Zee 1 March 2021 15: 40
            +3
            You seem to have been sitting in virtual for a long time, you fool, since you have forgotten how to communicate with people. Look inadvertently, don't lose your teeth somewhere, it's wiped.
            1. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 1 March 2021 15: 44
              -4
              Quote: Cockroach Zi
              You seem to have been sitting in virtual for a long time, you fool, since you have forgotten how to communicate with people. Look inadvertently, don't lose your teeth somewhere, it's wiped.

              Wow teeth cut through, milk ones? If you stumble, the real ones won't grow. fool Yes, and wipe your nose kid.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 March 2021 15: 55
            +1
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            Americans bought R-30 engines 110 years ago

            Maybe RD-110?
            But the point is not in this, but in the fact that they do not buy because they cannot make their own, but because it is more profitable for them to print dollars and buy what they need. They do not extract their own oil for the same reasons, preferring to buy for virtual bucks.
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    2. hydrox
      hydrox 1 March 2021 18: 48
      +2
      Quote: Cockroach Zi
      Why not give away for export with these engines, and the second stage for yourself

      And what, someone has already seen the serial engines of the second stage on serial machines? laughing
  6. Wedmak
    Wedmak 1 March 2021 14: 40
    +3
    China, as usual, hopes to quickly copy the glider, saturating it with its avionics. It is unlikely that ours will sell the newest dvigun for fighters for export, apparently there are many critical technologies that should not be handed out to anyone. Therefore, the Chinese may receive the Su-57, but with the AL41.
    By the way, I wonder why the Su-34 is not offered for export? It is, as it were, a replacement for the Su-24, and the latter were exported well. Nobody needs a bomber? The same F-15s are quite buying themselves.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 1 March 2021 14: 48
      +3
      Quote: Wedmak
      By the way, I wonder why the Su-34 is not offered for export?

      In December 2019, they wrote about the contract with Algeria.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 1 March 2021 14: 56
        +4
        Googled, it was reported back in 2016, officially, a contract, 40 cars ... but the deliveries seem to be inaudible.
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 1 March 2021 14: 49
      +3
      Quote: Wedmak

      By the way, I wonder why the Su-34 is not offered for export? It is, as it were, a replacement for the Su-24, and the latter were exported well. Nobody needs a bomber? The same F-15s are quite buying themselves.

      IB F15E was not exported so much. Israelis and Saudis are using. South Koreans more, and that's it ...
      Niche and very expensive car.
    3. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 1 March 2021 14: 53
      +3
      Algeria seems to have ordered it.
    4. JonnyT
      JonnyT 1 March 2021 15: 25
      +4
      Do not forget the eternal Chinese problem - the lag in materials science. The quality of metal and aviation alloys does not allow China to achieve high indicators in terms of resource intensity
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 1 March 2021 16: 01
        +5
        Quote: JonnyT
        Do not forget the eternal Chinese problem - the lag in materials science

        The problem can be solved, China spent 322 billion dollars on science last year. dollars, and the Russian Federation is less than 10 billion. dollars. USA 140 billion
        How long do you think they will lag behind?
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 1 March 2021 17: 19
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: JonnyT
          Do not forget the eternal Chinese problem - the lag in materials science

          The problem can be solved, China spent 322 billion dollars on science last year. dollars, and the Russian Federation is less than 10 billion. dollars. USA 140 billion
          How long do you think they will lag behind?

          if you look at the Chinese "Silicon Valley" ... you can't come to your senses for a long time
          Chubais and Skolkovo ...
        2. ksv36
          ksv36 1 March 2021 18: 22
          -2
          I think forever. And you? Our 10 lards in terms of efficiency, beat their lards several times. These 10 come already sawn. And to give more, then it will come for more. This is the truth of life.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 March 2021 20: 11
            0
            Quote: ksv36
            Our 10 lards in terms of efficiency, beat their lards several times. These 10 come already sawn.

            Something I did not understand, who beats whom on the efficiency of use?
            1. ksv36
              ksv36 2 March 2021 11: 22
              -1
              Our design bureaus and research institutes for these 10 billion will do the same thing that the Americans over 140. Or even better.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 2 March 2021 11: 44
                +1
                Blessed is he who believes! laughing On what basis did you make such conclusions?
                1. ksv36
                  ksv36 3 March 2021 15: 46
                  0
                  We have Armata and T-90M (and not only) with this money, they have F-35 with their allocated money.
        3. hydrox
          hydrox 1 March 2021 19: 08
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          How long do you think they will lag behind?

          If there is no school, then for a very long time: again, for such work, in order to do them constantly, you must have brains raised in snowy latitudes.
    5. hydrox
      hydrox 1 March 2021 19: 04
      +1
      F-15 b / ear, and even a discount (how old is that glider (remember the incidents with the two Transbaikalian MiG-29s, whose keels fell off when taking off on the left)) - in this regard, a special liter is produced and is in demand.
      It is rather the circumstance that fighters can notice and overwhelm drones, and bombers in this regard are weaker, blind and clumsy - it's a pity, go, give them to the Reapers for hawk ... sad
  7. askort154
    askort154 1 March 2021 14: 57
    0
    Therefore, China may be the first to order a batch.

    Not at all! In 5 years they will xerox them by the hundreds, and will intercept our market. Better to sell to Estonians, until they understand that "etta" will become obsolete. request
  8. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 1 March 2021 15: 07
    +2
    And what about 2 pieces of SU57 for the Chinese?
    What can they copy there.
    Glider? - so they themselves can.
    Electronics? - Well, here it is more likely for us to catch up.
    The engine? - so they cannot master the previous one, they do not have technologies.

    And we will not sell 100 units ourselves, there is no such capacity.
  9. Avior
    Avior 1 March 2021 15: 16
    -1
    China is interested in buying the Su-57 from Russia. They are used to copying technology, both military and space.

    of course China is interested.
    As soon as he manages to copy, he will multiply throughout the third world for inexpensive
    He is not the first time
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 March 2021 16: 03
      0
      Quote: Avior
      As soon as he manages to copy, he will multiply throughout the third world for inexpensive

      Or maybe this is correct? After all, on the way to achieving your goals, all means are good.
  10. Alexilyin
    Alexilyin 1 March 2021 15: 42
    +2
    China is primarily interested in the possibility of obtaining technology through the study of purchased aircraft and their copying. As much as possible. Therefore, a large batch will not be purchased. And as always, they will cheat by type, now we will buy a couple of planes with the possibility of increasing the number of planes in the future. Ours will believe them, "partners", after all, and this will all end there.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 1 March 2021 15: 44
    0
    Recently, the foreign press has begun to pay much more attention to the Russian new generation Su-57 fighter.

    So it is interesting, what will it result in ??? The result is important, and the intermediate throwing is on the side.
  12. Steen
    Steen 1 March 2021 16: 45
    0
    https://topwar.ru/154294-vks-poluchat-pervyj-serijnyj-su-57-do-konca-goda.html
    2019, the same Sytnik.
  13. Vadim F
    Vadim F 1 March 2021 19: 43
    -1
    it's bad that the pilot tries to judge what he doesn't know ... I wouldn't be surprised if the j-20 turns out to be cooler than the su-57, and the engine has nothing to do with it :) The Chinese do not report to anyone for their developments in modern weapons, come to life from they follow a lot judging by the successes in the industry.
  14. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein 1 March 2021 20: 36
    +1
    China de facto has no value as a buyer of military equipment. Selling him practically piece lots, for study and copying, is nothing more than sabotage and betrayal, while at the same time it is still unlikely to improve relations with India, which, as a client of Rosoboronprom, is much more attractive and valuable.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 1 March 2021 21: 09
    +1
    China and India should be allowed to buy only if 100 planes are paid in advance, and export makes no sense. Hindus are too arrogant, the Chinese are common technology thieves.
  16. Revolver
    Revolver 1 March 2021 22: 13
    +2
    Selling the latest military equipment to China? And who are they using it against, have they not thought? And if you hope that against America, then this is unlikely, the SU-57 is never a long-range strategic bomber, but the Pacific Ocean is what it is and is not going to decrease. And in order to fly somewhere else, the Chinese do not need to cross the ocean or the Himalayas. And where to?
  17. Alexfly
    Alexfly 2 March 2021 10: 23
    0
    In my opinion, the desire is solely for a natural comparison and promotion of your product on the market of 3 countries.
  18. Dmitry Izmalkov
    Dmitry Izmalkov 4 March 2021 13: 09
    0
    So we also do not. What about the 2nd stage engines? And what about the electronics?
  19. Alexander Koshkin
    Alexander Koshkin April 8 2021 20: 06
    0
    So the RF does not have them either!
    The production with the second stage motors and the corresponding electronics is carried far beyond the 25th year!