New strategic missile system "Kedr" began to develop in Russia

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New strategic missile system "Kedr" began to develop in Russia

In the future, Russian strategic missile forces may receive a new generation of strategic missile systems.

It is reported TASS with reference to a source in the rocket and space industry.



In Russia, work has begun on the creation of a strategic missile system called "Kedr". According to the source, while there is no specifics on the new complex, the project is at the stage of research work as part of the modernization of strategic weapons. It is specified that the complex will belong to the new generation.

If after a while it turns into experimental design work, then it will be possible to speak substantively. While this is deep research

- emphasized the source.

At present, the basis of the Strategic Missile Forces' armament is made up of Topol-M and Yars missile systems with silo and mobile ICBMs, and the Topol ICBMs are gradually being phased out. The newest missile system with ICBM "Sarmat" is being tested, missiles with the "Avangard" hypersonic block are being put into service. The nuclear submarine missile carriers Borey and Borey-A are carriers of the Bulava missile system.

It is noted that Russia has strategic mobile missile systems, while the United States has not been able to create such a complex. According to the General Designer of the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering, which is the main developer of Russian strategic complexes, Russia is significantly ahead of the collective West in this direction.
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    1. -6
      1 March 2021 08: 12
      Russia has far outstripped the collective West in this direction.

      And not only in this direction, but also in many others. The countries of crooks and thieves are not capable of creating anything, they can only steal.
      1. +7
        1 March 2021 08: 20
        Our country is not crooks and thieves. No need to generalize. Our country just has a lot of crooks and thieves in power structures and nothing more.
        1. +16
          1 March 2021 08: 22
          Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
          Our country is not crooks and thieves

          Why did you decide that I was writing about our country (about Russia)? laughing
          1. +5
            1 March 2021 08: 28
            Well, maybe because the missiles described in the article were created by Russia?
            1. -23
              1 March 2021 08: 35
              In this regard, before the next elections to the State Duma, Spravossy unites with other small parties. Agree with the communists ...
              Crooks and thieves began to create activity in order to win over the electorate from crooks and thieves from EDRA.
            2. +14
              1 March 2021 09: 21
              Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
              Well, maybe because the missiles described in the article were created by Russia?

              In my comment it was written: country those. not one of ours, as discussed in the article, but many others. Please read carefully.

              ps
              Those who minus me understood this perfectly, they are working out cookies from those countries. laughing
              1. +6
                1 March 2021 11: 45
                Quote: Boris55
                In my comment it was written: countries i.e. not one of ours, as discussed in the article, but many others.

                Yes, you wrote everything clearly, but some people want it to be the other way around.
              2. +6
                1 March 2021 19: 49
                Quote: Boris55
                In my comment it was written: country those. not one of ours, what the article is about, and many others. Please read carefully.

                That is why a kind and distrustful forum user Pashhenko Nikolay (Nikolay Pashchenko) and wrote:
                Our country is not crooks and thieves. No need to generalize.
                I, too, as a kind and not all gullible forum user, assert:
                Our country is not crooks and thieves .
                , and you can grin on ...
        2. 0
          2 March 2021 07: 19
          Why only those in power? There are enough of them from below. They are not integrated into power structures from Mars.
      2. +1
        1 March 2021 12: 06
        Quote: Boris55
        Russia has far outstripped the collective West in this direction.

        And not only in this direction, but also in many others. The countries of crooks and thieves are not capable of creating anything, they can only steal.

        Borya, don't underestimate the first and don't exaggerate the second. Only emotional women do this.
      3. -1
        1 March 2021 22: 32
        That's about what, but about crooks, compared to us, these countries are honest ...
    2. +6
      1 March 2021 08: 21
      I wonder where the design idea will move, in what direction? As a rule, ALL or almost all developments in the military-industrial complex ultimately affect the development of technological progress in industry, economy and have a positive impact on the lives of ordinary people ... (if representatives of usurious capital do not interfere, bankers who turn any positive business into profit for themselves and a problem for the state (not to be confused with state thieves))
      1. -5
        1 March 2021 08: 55
        Pour out, that's just not in our country. Can you name a lot of domestic developments that went into the civil sector and were made exclusively by our factories? Titanium pans don't count. In China, the military-industrial complex has declassified developments obsolete for the military, in Europe and the states, specialists from the military-industrial complex make their own companies and use their own ideas. At us, on the table, on the table and under seventy locks. I would not be surprised if, somewhere else under the stamp, there are nuclear processing technologies for the king of the cannon.
      2. -4
        1 March 2021 22: 40
        Looks like your brain is not only washed out, but blurred. If those forces and resources that are thrown into the development of weapons were thrown into the development of something necessary and necessary for a good life for people, then people would live an order of magnitude better. And this is just obvious! But the idea is constantly being introduced into the minds of the dull herd that the development of weapons is the main engine of scientific and technological progress.
        1. 0
          2 March 2021 06: 37
          Evgeny, probably just young at all, does not know about dual-use enterprises.
          For example (the simplest one): the sleeves of BelomorKanal cigarettes have a "caliber" of 7.62 ....
          There are many such enterprises.
    3. +8
      1 March 2021 08: 24
      As in a joke: while the enemy is making plans, we change the profile of the terrain. As long as Americans adapt to what has just been created, they are enveloped with new ideas.
    4. +11
      1 March 2021 08: 26
      Who else but me like our "forestry"!
      1. +3
        1 March 2021 09: 11
        Now poplars grow in Russia, but in the future they will be replaced by cedars. Only a select few will understand laughing
        1. +1
          1 March 2021 19: 00
          ... but as the "nettle" tramples - in general - the horror will begin.
          1. +2
            2 March 2021 06: 40
            The horror will begin after the Harshchevik ICBM is grown. It's hard to even imagine ...)))
            1. +1
              2 March 2021 13: 33
              Oh no ... it's not funny. The Harshchevik ICBM is a terrible thing, and one cannot even experience it on the same planet as the enemy. :))
    5. +6
      1 March 2021 08: 44
      Sarmat is all that was created before 2020. The Americans decided to change their "old men" Minutemans. From the old they probably only have the hulls. In these ten years, new technologies may appear without standing still, it seems that they are not "happy" nineties in the yard ... hi Yes, and young people need to pass on experience in designing.
      1. +2
        1 March 2021 13: 25
        Why not? The Americans are steadily standing and the Minutemans have once again decided to modernize. Yes, and the START Treaty was extended.
        1. +2
          1 March 2021 14: 00
          The United States began developing a new ICBM, which should fly by the year 35.
          1. +3
            1 March 2021 14: 01
            I read that by the 40th year. But this is also, as always, "not exactly". In the meantime, I will upgrade the "oldies"
            1. +1
              1 March 2021 19: 58
              No more will be announced already. The new rocket has already been funded.
      2. +3
        1 March 2021 22: 09
        The modernization of the main elements of the US nuclear triad is a big question. Minuteman ICBMs put on alert more than half a century ago can no longer be replaced with a new generation of missiles earlier than the early 2040s (if, of course, Minutemans even live up to this date). The Americans have not even begun to develop new generations of ICBMs yet. Over the past 50 years of inactivity, the scientific and design school for creating such missiles has been completely lost. And to create it anew in the context of the current internal crisis in the United States, to put it mildly, is very problematic. A striking confirmation of this crisis was an unprecedented fact: one of the main monsters of the US military-industrial complex, Boeing Corporation, which created the current Minutemans in the 1960s, voluntarily refused to fight for a state order for a new generation of ICBMs, despite its fabulous cost ($ 100 billion). dollars).
        The situation is no better with nuclear submarine missile carriers. The current Ohio-class submarines, the first of which entered service in the Navy in 1981, will begin to be written off as early as 2027, while the new generation Columbia-class nuclear submarines have not yet begun to be built. Although it was previously assumed that the lead ship of this type will enter service in 2021. Today, the official readiness date of the first (lead) Columbia has been postponed ten years ahead (2031). But experts are sure that this period is unrealistic; at best, we can talk about the early 2040s. By the way, the development of a new ICBM underwater launch to replace the current Trident II is not planned at all. Although the Trident II missiles were originally designed with a service life of 2024.
        The strategic aviation of the United States also has big problems. Its most combat-ready unit remains the ancient B-52 bombers, the youngest of which is already 58 years old. Moreover, the situation is so critical that the Pentagon was recently forced to return to service after repair 2 aircraft, which had previously been scrapped and had been in the aircraft cemetery for several years. Prospects for the creation of a new strategist B-21 Ryder remain very vague. It was supposed to be put into service in the mid-2010s, but it is still not known when it will be able to make its first experimental flight (after which, as the American experience with another B-1B Lancer strategist shows, it will pass not less than 10 years more). And no one can predict how many years it will take to produce the 100 units that Washington wants to order (also at least 10 years).
    6. -18
      1 March 2021 08: 50
      Infa weaving, 100500 avant-garde bearer sawing. The main thing is not to cut it on the road.
      1. -1
        1 March 2021 19: 59
        And why Sarmat?
    7. +4
      1 March 2021 09: 00
      Apparently, the number of customers for our strategic nuclear forces has increased, well, we have to expand the range, and at the same time the quality parameters of very interesting products.
      1. -2
        1 March 2021 09: 08
        I don't know if the number of clients increased, but the agreement with the Americans on limiting strategic offensive arms was extended at the speed of sound, although a year ago the Foreign Ministry said that there was nothing for us to talk about with the Americans on the topic of strategic offensive arms. So, the total number of old, new and newest is 700 and no more ...
        1. +6
          1 March 2021 09: 15
          In order not to confuse you, I added the word potential and note that I wrote about a qualitative improvement, not a quantitative one.
          For example, a rough comparison. Now a link of 4 modern aircraft is patrolling the front of about 800 kilometers. How many aviation regiments did it take to patrol such a front during the Second World War? hi
      2. Aag
        +6
        1 March 2021 09: 29
        Quote: Ros 56
        Apparently, the number of customers for our strategic nuclear forces has increased, well, we have to expand the range, and at the same time the quality parameters of very interesting products.

        The number of clients will grow ... And the number of deployed nuclear weapons is limited by the START Treaty, and we have to improve the quality.
        Regarding the article, there is actually nothing to comment on ...
    8. +5
      1 March 2021 09: 21
      I understood correctly?
      If necessary, we will "plant" Western countries not only with "Topols", but also with "Cedars".
      So this is what you are, the fight for the environment .......
    9. +1
      1 March 2021 09: 29
      Will the poplar grow stronger up to the Cedar?
    10. -7
      1 March 2021 09: 32
      The Americans are armed with minutemans and tridents, and they have enough. It seems that the next modernization is planned, and in the same weight and size velechin. That is, there is no need to invent new boats or mines. We also need new boats, mines, mobile complexes for each new missile. That is, the cost increases significantly.
      1. +6
        1 March 2021 10: 43
        In this matter, the main thing is the continuous development of new products; designers must gain experience. Otherwise, it will turn out like they flew to the moon with Apollo, they built Saturns 5, and now they have forgotten everything and even the drawings cannot be found. Retrofitting older products is good until a certain point when the design reaches its limit. But cheaper, and then they can make a new minuteman with a trident? It would be nice, that would be like with Apollo again!
        1. -1
          1 March 2021 14: 04
          "Otherwise it will turn out like they flew to the moon with Apollo, they built Saturns 5, but now they have forgotten everything and even the blueprints cannot be found." Or maybe they are not looking because all these designs are outdated physically and morally and they cost a lot of money for a new ship for the Moon, they have already done only a test flyby of the Moon and a rocket that is in no way inferior to Saturn 5, the same is almost ready.
      2. 0
        1 March 2021 12: 02
        Quote: Free Wind
        We also need new boats, mines, mobile complexes for each new missile.

        I agree about the boats, but everything else ... it’s a mine, and it’s a mine in Africa, especially in the TZ the dimensions of the TPK of the projected missile are set, for the "yars" the chassis is the same as for the "poplar"
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    11. +4
      1 March 2021 10: 12
      In Russia, work has begun on the creation of a strategic missile system called "Kedr". According to the source, while there is no specifics on the new complex, the project is at the stage of research work.


      There can be any number of such research projects. And they don't have to end with something specific. Maybe just the groundwork. When I was young, I wrote so many reports on various research projects, and none of them made any progress.

      It would be strange if there were no future research projects. (Although, in the nineties-zero it was).
      1. -4
        1 March 2021 10: 26
        There can be any number of such research projects. And they don't have to end with something specific. Maybe just the groundwork.

        The main thing is that they do not make the Rearguard out of the Vanguard.
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      1. +4
        1 March 2021 11: 20
        Eco you, however, out of the blue. Pacifism does not lead to good.
        1. -3
          1 March 2021 15: 05
          Pacifism does not lead to good
          "Pacifism" in skillful hands? It's fine. But for a start, of course, I want this light to shoot first across the sea.
      2. +1
        1 March 2021 11: 38
        Quote: pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
        in fact, deprived of fate, inferior. Violence comes from families.

        Ha.
        Violence springs from natural selection.
        Nature is arranged simply, if you did not eat your neighbor, the neighbor ate you.
        Homo sapiens survived because they ate the rest of the hominids, or drove them into such a jungle, where they turned into monkeys. And of these homosapiens, those tribes survived that ate the rest,
        1. -6
          1 March 2021 14: 56
          Soon, by the same logic, you will be competing with invertebrates and fungi.
          1. +3
            1 March 2021 15: 28
            Quote: pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
            you will compete with invertebrates and fungi.

            We are not competitors for them.
            We are food for them. And they are unlikely to be ashamed of it.
            1. 0
              2 March 2021 01: 36
              Yes, we are daily devoured not by the lower ones, but by our "fellows" in reason. Bezos, gates and others like Musk, poking into the sky as if they were a new homeland, while robbing at the same time.
              When people lived on earth collecting fruits from wild plants and using animals for food, hunting them, they had an inextricable connection with nature, taking care of it. In the course of their lives, meeting with other groups, they adopted more advanced tools for obtaining and processing food, building houses and making clothes. At some stage, a universal means of calculating appears for the exchange of purchases of goods. Shells, cocoa seeds and bits of metal. They were all united by a quantitative component, which had to be counted. Calculation is the key to that exchange. Calculation system. You do not have to participate in the creation of the product, nor in its delivery, but if you participate in the payment system, your services are paid for automatically. For the accountants of the calculation system, they had to use sophisticated tools that required perseverance, attention and speculation. Those who made calculations faster, turned out to be luckier, earned more. Over time, this category of people united on a professional basis. The surplus capital went into circulation. Money trading, a completely abstract concept, pure mathematics. And what stood outside this mathematics was absolutely not taken into account by the bookkeepers-merchants. The time has come for "impartial" shailoks.
              The caste developed and multiplied, launching its tentacles into related industries. They don't care who you are or what you do. It is important how it is calculated. Large objects for calculations require correspondingly more attention and effort, but on the other side of these calculations there is an impartial sign =.
              And science has now become another important object of their efforts. What would you please an atomic bomb, poison? On the other side of the sign = numbers (amount). No morality, no conscience. Szilards, Einsteins and so on with them. Ioffe, Landau, Zeldovich, Lifshitz, Frank,
              Bronstein, Altshuler, Migdal, Ginzburg are with us.
              In the process of these "joint" scientific research, they also traded by buying Palestinians for themselves.
              This is another trade in evil, then a new missile system is being developed. All peoples, except for the financial aligarchy, only lose from this.
      3. +5
        1 March 2021 12: 15
        Quote: pyc.arpeccop tornado 150
        You who are here delighted with new plans to incinerate people in others

        Read our military doctrine and go to sleep in peace that you are so agitated. We're not going to incinerate anyone. But if, suddenly, someone ... Someone who did not hide, I am not to blame.
        1. -5
          1 March 2021 14: 54
          You and someone are one gang of watering cans.
    13. +1
      1 March 2021 12: 04
      = The new Kedr strategic missile system began to be developed in Russia =
      The author of the news was clearly in a hurry to equip our Strategic Missile Forces with a new complex.
      = If after a while it turns into experimental design work, then it will be possible to speak substantively. While this is deep research =
      And research and development are never superfluous.
    14. +2
      1 March 2021 12: 12
      There - a "fantasy" ("youth") series ("Gremlin", "Raptor"). Here is the "wooden" ("ecological") series. Okay. All. I am silent.
    15. +1
      1 March 2021 12: 45
      While this is deep research

      - emphasized the source.

      Some kind of "source" is illiterate, because experts use the term for such works either "search" or "research". But the term "deep" I have never met - this is probably something new in GOSTs.
      But in any case, it is these NDPs that should be welcomed, because they are the foundation of our future security.
      1. 0
        1 March 2021 15: 46
        Not GOST (USSR, mandatory standards), but GOST-R (written off (translated), from different "international" (thrown) standards, applied voluntarily).
    16. 0
      1 March 2021 15: 18

      Russia has mobile strategic missile systems, while the United States has not been able to create such a complex.


      Rather, the United States does not just need such complexes, they will turn any country into ruins with "Tomahawks" even without nuclear weapons, of which they have the same number as we do.
    17. 0
      1 March 2021 17: 03
      Quote: An64
      I don't know if the number of clients increased, but the agreement with the Americans on limiting strategic offensive arms was extended at the speed of sound, although a year ago the Foreign Ministry said that there was nothing for us to talk about with the Americans on the topic of strategic offensive arms. So, the total number of old, new and newest is 700 and no more ...

      Don't juggle. A year ago, the Foreign Ministry said that there was no new treaty yet and that no work had been carried out on it. And also the fact that Russia will not sign an extension if the Americans set conditions. Biden signed an unconditional renewal

      Quote: WFP
      Will the poplar grow stronger up to the Cedar?

      Is not a fact. Now R&D has just begun, what the R&D will result in and whether it will go to the ORC is still unknown. Maybe "Cedar" will appear, or maybe it won't ...

      Quote: Free Wind
      The Americans are armed with minutemans and tridents, and they have enough. It seems that the next modernization is planned, and in the same weight and size velechin. That is, there is no need to invent new boats or mines. We also need new boats, mines, mobile complexes for each new missile. That is, the cost increases significantly.

      It is a little known that there is no talk of any new modernization now. Minutemen underwent modernization in the period from about 1998-2009. The service life is approximately until 2045-2050. Now there is the question of creating a new ICBM, as, in principle, a new SLBM to replace the Trident D-5

      Quote: PSih2097
      I agree about the boats, but everything else ... it’s a mine, and it’s a mine in Africa, especially in the TZ the dimensions of the TPK of the projected missile are set, for the "yars" the chassis is the same as for the "poplar"

      The mines are also being modernized. Moreover, sometimes the modernization is more like work from scratch. This also applies to the modernization of mines from under the UR-100N UTTH for "Yarsy", and mines from under the R-36M UTTH under the "Avangards"

      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

      Russia has mobile strategic missile systems, while the United States has not been able to create such a complex.


      Rather, the United States does not just need such complexes, they will turn any country into ruins with "Tomahawks" even without nuclear weapons, of which they have the same number as we do.

      They created such complexes. And rail based on the "Minuteman" and MX, and mobile on the basis of "Midgetmen". But the Americans counted and found out that it was expensive for them. Moreover, their basis is still SLBMs, then strategic aviation and only in the last place ground-based ICBMs.
    18. +1
      1 March 2021 20: 08
      Quote: Lycan
      ... but as the "nettle" tramples - in general - the horror will begin.

      "Nettle" is unlikely to "trample", but in the coming years, a plant from the mulberry family will definitely
    19. 0
      1 March 2021 21: 18
      I wonder why? What needs improvement? The accuracy seems to suit, the thrown mass is provided the one that is required. A light rocket (Yars) we have a new, heavy rocket (Sarmat) still being tested ... We decided to make a heavy solid-propellant rocket, or what?
      1. 0
        2 March 2021 06: 03
        It seems that we are talking about a solid-fuel rocket, a new mobile complex.
        Time throws up new challenges and they must be answered.
        You can also fantasize that the new rocket will be quite small and therefore versatile. That is, it can be used both in silos and in mobile complexes, including railway ones, and on nuclear submarines.
        If the idea is really like that, then its implementation will be a breakthrough.
        Let's wait 15 years and see the results
      2. +1
        2 March 2021 06: 19
        Quote: bk0010
        I wonder why? What needs improvement?

        Weird question.
        R&D is usually carried out to understand whether it is possible, in this case, to improve the characteristics of missiles on the basis of new and promising advances in science and technology (new materials, new element base, new design findings, new algorithms ...).
        To make them cheaper, easier, more accurate, more reliable, to increase the range, carrying capacity, the number of warheads, means of overcoming missile defense, to increase mobility, security, simplify maintenance ... etc. etc....
        And also to analyze the "bottlenecks" of existing missiles and understand what needs to be improved and what to do, what new materials, new technologies, new element base, etc. etc....
      3. -1
        9 March 2021 19: 23
        Quote: bk0010
        I wonder why? What needs improvement?

        Improvements require the characteristics of the rocket: the specific impulse of rocket engines with a sufficiently compact size, allowing to throw a mass of 10..20 tons into a circumlunar orbit from a silo launcher.
        An increase in specific impulse can be achieved, for example, by using at the first and / or at the second stage of the rocket a thermal nuclear rocket engine NRE with a coolant - water or liquid ammonia with an alkali metal dissolved in it. lithium hydride
    20. +3
      1 March 2021 21: 40
      Quote: bk0010
      I wonder why? What needs improvement? The accuracy seems to suit, the thrown mass is provided the one that is required. A light rocket (Yars) we have a new, heavy rocket (Sarmat) still being tested ... We decided to make a heavy solid-propellant rocket, or what?

      So far, apart from the name of the research work, nothing is known. Therefore, it is difficult to say what will change and why. Even the approximate parameters are unknown. It is possible that the customer is not satisfied with the thrown weight or the number of BGs. But you never know what.
    21. +1
      1 March 2021 23: 00
      Quote: Volder
      Over the past 50 years of inactivity, the scientific and design school for creating such missiles has been completely lost.

      You forget that at the end of the 80s the Americans created and put into service the MX ICBMs and began testing the Dwarf. So there is no question of any loss of the school of creating such missiles.
      Modernization of the same "Minutemans" is essentially a complete replacement of old missiles of the 70s with new ones. Although the name remains the same ...
    22. +4
      2 March 2021 14: 11
      Quote: U-58
      It seems that we are talking about a solid-fuel rocket, a new mobile complex.
      Time throws up new challenges and they must be answered.
      You can also fantasize that the new rocket will be quite small and therefore versatile. That is, it can be used both in silos and in mobile complexes, including railway ones, and on nuclear submarines.
      If the idea is really like that, then its implementation will be a breakthrough.
      Let's wait 15 years and see the results


      Quite possible. We are almost certainly talking about the development of the Moscow Institute of Heat Engineering, and MIT is engaged in just solid fuel products.
      It is a mobile complex or a stationary one - it is still unknown. If the new product will have a launch weight of about 60 tons, then it is quite possible that the complex will be mobile, even possibly on the same chassis.
      In this case, the throw weight (and, accordingly, the number of warheads and means of overcoming missile defense systems) will be greater. The range will of course be increased. It is possible that the warhead deployment system, which Solomonov spoke about a few years ago, will be changed. And instead of a "bus" (that is, a stage of dilution), each warhead will be equipped with its own engine.
      Perhaps it will be a light rocket of the 100-ton class (according to the starting point, it will correspond to the old UR-100N UTTH). But it will already be stationary. It might be hard. From a starting point of about 130-140 tons.
      Perhaps it will be something like a light ICBM of the "Courier" type. So far, all the conversations are only at the level of speculation.

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