"After the repair, the Su-25 meet NATO standards": Bulgarian Defense Minister sat at the helm of the attack aircraft

To test the combat effectiveness of Soviet military aircraft repaired in Belarus, which are in service with the Bulgarian Air Force, Bulgarian Defense Minister Krasimir Karakachanov personally sat as a co-pilot at the helm of the Su-25 attack aircraft. He carried out testing, taking off from Bezmer airbase.

The head of the defense department recalled that the Su-25K attack aircraft performs the function of the main combat aircraft designed to support the actions of the Land Forces and the Bulgarian Navy.

Karakachanov expressed his satisfaction with the work of the Belarusian JSC "558th Aviation repair plant ", which is considered one of the leading aircraft repair enterprises in the CIS. It was he who was entrusted with the repair and modernization of eight Su-25 attack aircraft of the Bulgarian Air Force. He noted that after the work carried out, the aircraft began to comply with NATO standards. What this means is not understood even in Bulgaria itself.

The minister also responded to criticism of those who said that Bulgaria does not need Russian planes:

These are not Russian planes, because they were paid for by Bulgarian citizens. These are Bulgarian aircraft, and they carry out a mission to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria.

After repair and modernization, the Bulgarian Su-25K received a new navigation, communications system and expanded capabilities for the use of missile weapons, in particular, air-to-air missiles. The service life of the fuselages of these aircraft was increased by 800 flight hours, and the resource of the R-95Sh turbojet engines by 500 hours. This will allow the Bulgarian Air Force to operate the Su-25 until 2027 or 2028.

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[Lipchanin]

and they are on a mission to protect territorial integrity и sovereignty Bulgaria

From whom?

[Cowbra]

Quote: Lipchanin

From whom?

From the Bulgarians. And then you yourself understand, if the Bulgarians need electricity, and the EU needs an energy-dependent Bulgaria from the EU, then separatist thoughts about building a nuclear power plant or a gas pipeline must be eliminated in every possible way ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Cowbra

From the Bulgarians.

Aaaaaa, well then, I see ...

[Temples]

In the First World War, as in the Second World War, the Bulgarians fought against the Russians.

At the moment Bulgarians are members of NATO and on this basis are subordinate to the US military.
The United States openly declares that we (Russia) are their enemy.

Belarusians are repairing military equipment to the enemy of Russia.

Any nonsense that NATO (including Bulgarians) is not against the Russians, leave the residents of Zimbabwe and the EU.
All civilized mankind knows that the US missile defense system is against the DPRK;

But Russia is not part of that civilization.

We put this civilization in cancer twice in the last century.

It is a pity that the game of communism and the brotherhood of peoples forced to give the conquered lands to those who were defeated.

Now the Belarusians are repairing the planes for the Bulgarians, on which the latter, in the event of a nix, will fly to kill us. They will be required. According to the contract.

And who does not believe let them look at the Ukrainians who are killing their compatriots because the Anglo-Saxons so desire.

[Split]

Quote: Temples

Belarusians repair military equipment to the enemy of Russia

I don’t think that such a quantity will somehow hurt us ... We will shower them with hats Chechens had more before 1

[hirurg]

So also our gachas, so they will return home.)))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Temples

planes on which the latter, in the event of a nix, will arrive to kill us. They will be required. According to the contract.

The saddest thing is that the Bulgarian "Rooks", according to Article 5 of the NATO Charter, will fly on American orders. But what all NATO hopes for, especially the Young NATO members, that the United States, losing its pants, will run to die for them - the United States will watch three more times. According to the same 5th article.

MladoNATovtsy either did not read that Charter, or did not understand. And the Americans wrote it. So whose interests are protected in the first place? Not Bulgaria and not even NATO as a whole. She, that 5th article, quite allows herself, in the event of an impossible - Russian aggression against, say, the same Bulgaria, to send them a wagon of medical masks and diapers and calmly watch how it all ends.

Who told Bulgarians, Romanians, Poles, Balts and others that the United States deems it necessary to get involved because of them in a nuclear war of mutual destruction with Russia?

[DenZ]

About medical masks very much on the topic of the day. Well, if I seriously agree, the phrase "will consider it necessary" given the level of cooperation in NATO as it is today (often out of hand) can in fact mean diapers and masks.

[Real Pilot]

NATO standards for aircraft made in the USSR after Belarusian repair?
That's cool!

In general, according to the internal classification of the Americans, everything we have is "non-standard". This applies to everything from helicopters and planes to small arms ...
Bulgarians have a "standard non-standard", so to speak

And in some ways they are right. When they were called to this alliance, they definitely thought that everything good and of high quality was already a NATO standard, because the organization itself was perceived as such.
It's a different matter that everything turned out to be different, but it is somehow inconvenient to tell your population about it. And headquarters would not approve of such revelations. That's all...

[Installer]

He noted that after the work carried out, the aircraft began to comply with NATO standards. What this means is not understood even in Bulgaria itself. :))))

[pytar]

From whom?

The Constitution of the Republic of Bulgaria says:
Member 9. (1) Establish a strong guarantee of sovereignty, sigurnost and independence for the country and protect the territory of the country.
From what specific threats, it is written in detail in the Military Doctrine of the Republic / v.11 /. And in point 12 it is indicated:
12. The Republic of Bulgaria has not been eliminated before the immediate war zeal. There is little likelihood of a war, which and loot the whole region.
Since, according to the Parliament, there is no immediate threat from war, the armed forces of Bulgaria have a very limited composition at that time. Several Su-25s including.

[tralflot1832]

It seems like there was a noise, you had to fit a used F16 not with bats, not painted, second hands. Commendably, the Belarusian brothers were given a job. The mind was enough not to chase the Krainsky cheapness.

[pytar]

It seems like there was a noise, you had to fit a used F16 not with bits, not painted, second hands.

8 new F-16 bl70s will be delivered in the next 4-5 years. The contract is in progress and the aircraft are being manufactured at Lockheed's new plant in Greenville / Y. Caroline /. The crews are already in the US for training. It will be the most modernist consumer in the Balkans for now. We'll probably buy another squadron in the future. And Sushki will stay, they are stormtroopers!

It is commendable that the Belarusian brothers were given a job, and they were smart enough not to chase the Krainsky cheapness.

Belarusians won the contract. They work very efficiently, meet deadlines, well done!

[ironic]

Viper? Its engine is powerful. Thanks to him, there was a short super cruise and Block 70. This is a strong argument in the battle over the front line.

[pytar]

That sama! Nice car, this is the latest version, with the most modern equipment. We had a variety of and controversial choices! Especially when Viper was compared to Grippen! But then I think, and politics has had its say.

[ironic]

Yes, I think politics, because Gripen is a very strong machine too.

[nedgen]

Boyane, you are absolutely right, First of all, politics. Moreover, the US Air Force is on the verge of abandoning the F-35 and absolutely does not WISH to buy an F-16, at least Block 70, even a hypothetical Block 80, because, according to the US Air Force, F-16 YESTERDAY'S den.

[Lunic]

Is the Greenville Y. Carolina plant new? It was launched in 1984 like. He was involved in overhauls and maintenance of aircraft. Although yes, a new line for the F-16 was recently delivered there.
It is located on 276 acres of land and employs just over 500 people.
I will give one piece of advice: watch the build quality. Boeing also opened an assembly plant in South Carolina a few years ago. They assemble the 737e, so customers complain about the very low build quality and quality control department. The culture of production and the quality of the workforce is a little lame in this state. Although, the BMW assembly plant assembles quite good cars. But here the Germans control everything and high robotization at the plant.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

Member 9. (1) Establish a strong guarantee of sovereignty, sigurnost and independence for the country and protect the territory of the country.

12. The Republic of Bulgaria has not been eliminated before the immediate war zeal. There is little likelihood of a war, which and loot the whole region.

Who are you?

Then how to understand this?

As far as Parliament is considered there is no immediate threat from war,

If there is no threat, then how to understand it?

and they are on a mission to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria.

Are you defending against your neighbors nato partners?

[pytar]

Sorry, I thought it was clear in Bulgarian too.
Member 9. (1) Establish a strong guarantee of sovereignty, sigurnost and independence for the country and protect the territory of the country.
Member 9. (1) The armed forces guarantee the sovereignty, security and independence of the country and protect its territorial integrity.
12. The Republic of Bulgaria has not been eliminated before the immediate war zeal. There is little likelihood of a war, which and loot the whole region.
12. The Republic of Bulgaria does not face / now / with an immediate military threat. A region-wide war is unlikely.

As far as Parliament believes there is no immediate threat from war - Then how to understand it?

So there are other threats that require the presence of the Armed Forces. And if a military threat is not visible at the moment, this does not mean that such a threat will not appear in the future! If you want peace, prepare for war, smart people said ...

Are you defending against your neighbors nato partners?

Keyword "defend yourself"! Precisely at the defense aimed at the Bulgarian Armed Forces! We are not going to attack anyone. And the threats can be different, the world is very turbulent.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

And if a military threat is not visible in the moment,

So you are surrounded exclusively by partners. And the striped guarantor is obliged to protect you

It is precisely at the protection of the targeted Bulgarian Armed Forces

I have to ask again, from whom?
Who is going to attack you?
Here we know exactly who we need to defend against.
Including from Bulgaria

[Senior seaman]

Most of the Balkan states have certain territorial claims against each other. As for NATO membership, look at the history of relations between Greece and Turkey.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Senior Sailor

Most of the Balkan states have certain territorial claims against each other.

Then why do they climb into nature, if Nata is not able to protect them from their own partners?

[Senior seaman]

Where else could they go?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Senior Sailor

Where else could they go?

Is it necessary to climb into a bloc aimed against Russia?

[Senior seaman]

Are there others? Bulgaria is a small country and is located in such a place that you can't sit out.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Senior Sailor

Bulgaria is a small country and is located in such a place that you can't sit out.

And so it is necessary to go into an alliance against Russia?
Well, I don’t understand this logic. Nata cannot guarantee them non-aggression from NATO partners, but they have to get in there.

[Senior seaman]

Quote: Lipchanin

And so it is necessary to go into an alliance against Russia?

Why did you decide that? I want to remind you that Bulgaria joined NATO in 2004, when there was no confrontation with Russia and was not foreseen. Since 1994, we have been participating in the Partnership for Peace program (the agreement was ratified in 2007). Since 2008, our permanent representative D. Rogozin appears at NATO. We provided them with transit through our territory to Afghanistan, allowed them to land on our territory.
What an alliance against Russia what are you talking about? We began to be viewed as an enemy after the Crimean Spring, and in 2004 the bast did not ring about this.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Senior Sailor

I want to remind you that Bulgaria joined NATO in 2004, when there was no confrontation with Russia and was not foreseen.

What the fuck ????
Remind nato for the hobbyist and why did they come to our doorstep?

[Senior seaman]

Quote: Lipchanin

Remind nato for the hobbyist and why did they come to our doorstep?

Try :))
but the fact remains that when the Bulgarians joined NATO, we were not opponents with this alliance.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Senior Sailor

but the fact remains that when the Bulgarians joined NATO, we were not opponents with this alliance.

Which fact?
I cannot understand one thing. What fright did you get that NATO and I were kissing passionately?

After the end of the Cold War, in 1999, Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic entered NATO ("NATO's Fourth Expansion"), in 2004 - Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Estonia ("NATO's Fifth Expansion").

It is they from the great "friendship" that they carry out teachings near our borders?

[Senior seaman]

Quote: Lipchanin

I cannot understand one thing. What fright did you get that NATO and I were kissing passionately?

Because it was.
There was a Russia-NATO council, there were joint exercises, there was an agreement on the possibility of joint peacekeeping operations. Our presidents (both Putin and Medvedev) even talked about the possibility of our joining the alliance ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Senior Sailor

There was a Russia-NATO council

Fiction

they even talked about the possibility of our joining the alliance ...

So this is what we said, and they sent us with this initiative

[Senior seaman]

Quote: Lipchanin

So this is what we said, and they sent us with this initiative

That is, you do not deny it. Great!
What then is the fault of Bulgaria?

[DDT]

Not only passionate. They kissed on the gums with friend Bill, friend Colle, etc. Or have you already forgotten this period? It's time for you to tear off your shoulder straps for political short-sightedness General Lipchanin ...

[pytar]

Remind nato for the hobbyist and why did they come to our doorstep?

And to remind you how Yeltsin and Bush then hugged and swore eternal love! Yes, and Putin was quite normal friends with NATO, until 2014!
Bulgaria is a small country located at the crossroads of interests. After the 90s, we found ourselves in a very difficult position! Being the closest ally with the USSR for half a century, our entire economy collapsed overnight! Nearby Yugoslavia was on fire, we have an increased threat of the development of similar scenarios! All our neighbors have either already been to NATO or are about to enter! We entered NATO because of the threat from Turkey, which intensified sharply after the collapse of the OVD! And there was no other alternative!
The then Bulgarian politicians, despite the fact that they were changing turbulently, judged correctly - we need a break, we need stability! To restore the country, to step on its feet! It was vital to buy time! For 30 years now, we have a good relationship with our neighbors! The best in the turbulent history of the Balkans! It is difficult to foresee what will happen next, but at that historical period, the decision to join NATO was inevitable and correct!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

Yes, and Putin was quite normal friends with NATO, until 2014.

But NATO nevertheless went to our borders.
Just walk?

[pytar]

But NATO nevertheless went to our borders.

After 2014, there is not a single country that has entered NATO bordering the Russian Federation. In fact, the border between NATO and the Russian Federation has not changed since the Baltic states entered the pact. That is bish since 2004!

[DDT]

Norway kamarad, Norway ...

[pytar]

Norway kamarad, Norway ...

Good joke... There in the north, polar bears are also NATO!
Norway has been a NATO member since 1949.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: pytar

We entered NATO because of the threat from Turkey, which intensified sharply after the collapse of the OVD!

And what are the relations between Turkey and Bulgaria now?
Outwardly, everything seems to be fine. Trade turnover is growing, Bulgaria has vetoed sanctions in the EU, infrastructure projects are being created, territorial disputes have not been heard.

[pytar]

And what are the relations between Turkey and Bulgaria now?

Seemingly normal, but there is one unforeseen factor - Erdogan! A man suffering from megalomania is dangerous for everyone, even for the Turks themselves. By the way, I must say that our Bulgarian Turks don't like him either ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

After the 90s, we found ourselves in a very difficult position!

Should I cry?
Or did we live better than you?

For 30 years now, we have good relations with our neighbors!

And why are such statements made?

and they are on a mission for the protection of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria.

Maybe it's enough to portray a snake in a frying pan?

[pytar]

Should I cry?

Sergei, what do you do is your business. I thought we finished the conversation!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Senior Sailor

Bulgaria joined NATO in 2004, when there was no confrontation with Russia and was not foreseen.

From my cadet times to the end of my service, it was invested in me that the United States and NATO are our potential enemy.

[Senior seaman]

were you a cadet in 2004?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Senior Sailor

were you a cadet in 2004?

I served in the Soviet Army from 1966 to 1991. And all these years, and after NATO, it stubbornly moved towards our borders. Probably with friendly intentions to hug more tightly.

[Senior seaman]

Quote: Piramidon

I served in the Soviet Army from 1966 to 1991

Neither that country nor that army has long been gone. Perhaps because not a single "patriot" remembered about the oath and did not come forward in their defense in that very 1991.
Note that Bulgaria is not to blame for the collapse of the USSR.

[pytar]

So you are surrounded exclusively by partners.

So you have some partners surrounding, and not even surrounding! And you have the 2nd army in the world!

I have to ask again, from whom? Who is going to attack you?

Do you think the aircraft are not needed? Who is going to attack Switzerland? But Switzerland is one of the most militarized countries in the world!

Here we know exactly who we need to defend against.

I'm not sure about that ... You have the Russian Guard / that is, the gendarmerie / is almost Ross. army! The authorities can be seen from the people / 144 million inhabitants / they are more afraid than from NATO / 800 million inhabitants /.

Including from Bulgaria

Wow! We are so terrible! Tremble the Kremlin, we have a couple of Dryers!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

So you have some partners surrounding,

Oh how
Isn't NATO already near our doorstep?
Isn't NATO hiding that Russia is their enemy?

Do you think the aircraft are not needed?

Needed. But the third time I ask who exactly are you going to defend against
I have friends and comrades and I am not going to defend myself against them.

You have Rosgvardia / that is, the gendarmerie / is almost Ross. army!

Don't go where you don't know or understand anything.

The main tasks of the territorial bodies of the Russian Guard are:
participation in the maintenance of public order and ensuring public safety;
participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism, in ensuring the legal regime of the counter-terrorist operation;
participation in the territorial defense of the Russian Federation;

But this apparently needs to be explained on the fingers

We are so terrible! Tremble the Kremlin, we have a couple of Dryers!

You enter the block that sees the destruction of Rlssia, which means you have become the same enemy to us.
Do you think that you will not be hit if NATO starts a war against us?

[pytar]

This is some absurd dialogue! All raw materials for steam 40-year-old painted Drying! Do you really think that they are threatening you in some way ??? I'm afraid to imagine what will happen to your psyche when they are dyed!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

All raw materials for steam 40-year-old painted Drying!

I can refresh your memory and quote my first post from where the dialogue began

Lipchanin (Sergey)
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and they are on a mission to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria.

From whom?

Show me where I even said a word about your Sushki?

I'm afraid to imagine what will happen to your psyche,

Don't be afraid, don't.
Fear for your memory. You are conducting a dialogue and do not remember how it began

[pytar]

From whom?

Yes I remember, but your question is inherently absurd! You do not understand? Almost all countries in the world have armed forces! For 2-3 exclusions! And from whom do they protect countries? We, like everyone else, are fine.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

Yes I remember,

I doubt if this was written

All raw materials for steam 40-year-old painted Drying!

In general, I didn't say a word about Sushki for the entire dialogue.

Almost all countries in the world have armed forces!

I will refresh my memory once again with my answer

and they are on a mission to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria.

From whom?

I never got an answer
Yes, and I will not get it, because you yourself do not know him.
And I no longer see the point in this conversation

[pytar]

I never got an answer. Yes, and I will not get it, because you yourself do not know him.
And I no longer see the point in this conversation

From everyone who thinks to threaten my country! Are you satisfied? You don't want to listen. And yes, you are right, the dialogue with the person which does not want to listen to meaningless.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

From everyone who thinks to threaten my country!

Whoooo ???? Which of your neighbors partners is going to attack you if you are sitting under the same roof !!!!

[pytar]

Permanent tension between Turkey and Greece has continued throughout the existence of NATO. Bulgaria is their neighbor, it is not excluded that they may involve us in some way. The situation in Macedonia is also not stable. Yes, anything can be. Better to keep the powder dry. And if there is peace, a few little airplanes will not seem like it.

[komuso]

Uncle you? Have you and the Bulgarian Constitution been quoted, what do you expect in response? If you wake up on the other side of the Black Sea, then everything will be OK, we do not want to attack you and we will not. This is in case someone there decides to create some Varna or Burgas People's Republic (we have more than 140 of your compatriots). And you have a long tradition of interfering either indirectly or through your mongrels (Serbia) in the policy of Bulgaria. The Berlin Congress, the overthrow of the first Bulgarian prince Alexander Batemberg, Serbsko -Bulgarian War of 000, shelling of Varna and Balchik by the Russian squadron in 1885, Russian corps in Macedonia and Northern Dobrudja, bombing of Varna in 1915, sinking of the "Struma", domination of the DRG on the Bulgarian coast, Declaration of war on Bulgaria on September 1941, 7, theft of the Bulgarian archive and gold reserve. how to continue?

[Lipchanin]

The answer is one.
SHIPKA remind ???
Remind me how the Turks slaughtered you and Russia and the Russians saved you from total destruction?
To remind you that in ALL WARS of the 20th century you were in the coalitions fighting against the Russians.?
To remind you that in the 21st century, you again entered a bloc that only dreams of how to destroy Russia?
And after that, will I believe it?

If you stay on the other side of the Black Sea, everything will be OK, we do not want to attack you and will not.

The mattress will snap a finger, show a cookie and fight against us like cute
And you don't need to cite your constitution as an example
To tell how one "brotherly" people trampled their constitution for green candy wrappers and cookies and still tramples?

Uncle you?

God forbid from such "nephews"

[komuso]

It will remind you how many Bulgarians were on Shipka and how many Russians were (6 to 1) and what happened to the city of Stara Zagora when your gallant general first freed it and then gave it to the Turks.Dibich Zabalkansky responded in slavery to more than 50 Bulgarians, whose descendants now live in Bessarabia, and Prince Svetoslav plundered and fired the Bulgarian capital?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: komuso

Will remind you how many Bulgarians were on Shipka and how many Russians

Remind me, why did the Russians come there?
Will there be any comments on the rest of the points?

[komuso]

Does the Bosphorus tell you something? Your old dream and the way to the Bosphorus goes through Bulgaria.
I am waiting for comments on the rest of the questions that I asked you. Svetoslav, Dibich, First World War, Second,

[Lipchanin]

Quote: komuso

Does the Bosphorus tell you something?

I didn't understand something, what does the Bosphorus have to do with it? Or do you and I have a common border to reach the Bosphorus?

I am waiting for comments on the rest of the questions that I asked you. Svetoslav, Dibich,WWI, WWII,

Now, so on whose side were you during the two world wars?

[komuso]

And in the first and in the second war we did not fight on the territory of Ingushetia, the USSR, in the second, even the USSR was not declared war, for that you fought in the first in the Bulgarian territory, in the second you sank Bulgarian ships, bombed Bulgarian cities, dominated the DRG in the Bulgarian territory.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: komuso

And in the first and in the second war, we did not fight on the territory of Ingushetia, the USSR.

This was also not enough.
But nevertheless they were in coalitions that fought against us

, in the second they sank Bulgarian ships, bombed Bulgarian cities, dominated the DRG in the Bulgarian territory.

No need to lie.
Not a single Soviet soldier entered the territory of Bulgaria.
Even the field of the end of WWII, not one soldier, not one HF in Bulgaria was not

[komuso]

You, too, were in a coalition with Germany against Poland in 1939.
And what about Russian soldiers, are you sure of this? Then what do you think is the location of the remains of your submarines Shch-204, Shch-210, Shch-211, L-24, F-34? And where was your 37th Army from September 1944 to December 1947.
It means that you reduced the Bulgarians (only 767 people in Sruma), and then we are to blame for some hypothetical attack on Russia.

[Senior seaman]

Quote: Lipchanin

IN ALL WARS of the 20th century were in coalitions fighting against the Russians.?

Right here in all?

[Bagatur]

Strange ... do you think the army should be disbanded if all the neighbors are allies?

[Lipchanin]

Well tell me where I wrote that the army is not needed ????
My first post, the very first on the branch READ AGAIN.
I never got an answer

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: pytar

Sorry, I thought it was clear in Bulgarian too.

As a child, at the pioneer age, he read Bulgarian fairy tales taken from the library in Bulgarian. At first it was not clear, after two or three days I did not notice what language I read.
I remember well the fairy tale about the dragon that seized the country - such an allegory of the occupier.

[pytar]

The first flights of Bulgarian pilots on the Su-25 modernized in Belarus. The pilots speak very highly of the results of modernization!

[Flooding]

pytar
are you the last Bulgarian in VO?
or is there someone else left?

[pytar]

are you the last Bulgarian in VO? or is there someone else left?

Yes, there are still 1-2. There were many before, but they left. All were Russophiles, but it is good to "treat" her / Russophilia / here on VO. Yes, and a lot of Russian media. What you yourself are doing, not a single anti-Russian propaganda can do. That's for sure!

[Flooding]

Quote: pytar

Yes, there are still 1-2. There were many before, but they left. All were Russophiles, but it is good to "treat" her / Russophilia / here on VO.

It's a shame. Previously, at least four or five Bulgarians wrote comments to the article about Bulgaria.
The good times will come.
The main thing is not to hang your nose!
I also do not like it when politics is translated into relations between peoples.

[pytar]

The good times will come. The main thing is not to hang your nose!

You are right! Everything will be fine, I have no doubt!

[tagil]

Oh yeah. True, YOU "brothers" can "treat" for friendship just as well, so it's better to be an orphan than to have such "brothers"

Bulgarian MEP Angel Dzhambazki raised the issue of the possibility of expanding sanctions against Russia for allegedly carried out by Moscow espionage activities in the republic.

So the attitude towards you will be the same both in life and on this site.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Tagil

So the attitude towards you will be the same both in life and on this site.

Yes, someone for them famously minuses
Just say a word against, immediately the minus flies

[pytar]

Yes, someone for them famously minus. Just say a word against, immediately the minus flies

Lipchanin (Sergey), I don’t minus it in principle. I see there are hardly any more 1-2 Bulgarians. Therefore, you are minus by your sonarodists, of whom / my respect for them /, they think from their heads, do not give in to propaganda! The majority of Russians are smart people, they understand where all the negativity comes from and how much this miserable propaganda poisoned peoples against one another.

[Artavazdych]

There is one more, I know for sure

[pytar]

True YOU are "brothers"

tagil (Sergei), you can't even imagine how many Russian friends I have! We are with him brothers! And people like you, Sergei, have no brother, no friends, you are unhappy with everything, nothing is wrong with you! I don’t know how you live in such a state, and I don’t want to know.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

And people like you, Sergei, do not have a brother,

There is no such

And I cannot call those who fought both world wars against my Motherland as "brothers".
He did not calm down in the 21st century, again entered into an alliance against Russia.
Maybe there will be enough shadow on the fence to guide and remember about the "brothers" while eating our enemy's cookies

[pytar]

And I cannot call those who fought both world wars against my Motherland as "brothers".

Sergey, is someone forcing you personally? People like you have only enemies, everywhere, even under the beds!

[tagil]

You can have as many friends as you want, but a true friend can be one, maximum two, the rest are just comrades.

And people like you, Sergei, have no brother, no friends, you are unhappy with everything, nothing is wrong with you! I don’t know how you live in such a state, and I don’t want to know.

I can even say that you personally treat us Russians as brothers, but I know perfectly well that the ammunition that the Bandera fighters fire at Donbass are supplied by your country in the same way as ports are provided to warships of countries that consider my country an enemy for themselves. From the fact that your soldiers refused to shoot at targets depicting Russian soldiers (and this act says a lot), but this only says that you need to carry out more intensive "work" to demonize Russians (which is what is being done to you, or do you think your representative in Did the EU raise the topic of sanctions purely out of its own interests?). In the end, over time, "democratic" gay parades will become for you as commonplace as hatred of Russians (well, who else to hate, not the English queen). I live, unlike you, in the real world and I see where you are and all of your Europe is being pushed, but no, they are being pushed just like Hitler in the 40s.

[pytar]

I can even say that you personally treat us Russians like brothers ..

And I treat Ukrainians as brothers! Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, all our fraternal peoples! And you know, not everything is so simple there, looking from the outside ...

... but I know perfectly well that the ammunition that the Bandera fighters use to fire at Donbass are supplied

You will be surprised, but ammunition produced in Russia or under a Russian license is quite successful in killing Russian soldiers in many parts of the world! For example RPG "Hashim" / on Barkas / found its first application with ... al-Qaeda ... There are many examples, but I'm not talking about that ... You know, those who trade with weapons have neither morality, nor conscience, nor nationality! I don't trade with weapons, do you?

or do you think your EU representative raised the topic of sanctions purely out of his own interests

But Putin says that the sanctions are good for the Russian Federation, because they help your producers! It turns out that you should like it, or the leader is wrong? You do not understand that in the world people can think differently and that some actions of Ross. authorities are really not very good ...!

Eventually, over time, "democratic" gay parades will become routine for you ...

For some reason, about gay pride parades are constantly held by those who insist that they do not have such a problem in their country! I’ll tell you, they don’t worry about us! The Balkans is a traditionally conservative place, much larger than the Russian Federation! For thousands of years, little has changed in mentality!

as well as hatred of Russians (well, who else to hate, not the English queen).

I read a lot, communicate with different people from different nations. One thing I can say - no Russophobic propaganda can do as much harm as the Russians themselves. This is a dead end road.

[Gado]

Nope, not one. There are several of us, although lately we prefer to be silent. Because of people like Comrade Lipchanin and several other such comrades. There are also those who do not write in Russian, only read. Hope you can understand.

[Flooding]

Quote: Gado

Nope, not one. There are several of us, although lately we prefer to be silent

your russian is very correct.
not Bulgarian correct.
Where are you from if it's not a secret?

[Gado]

I am from a small Bulgarian town called Berkovitsa. And I know Russian because I studied in a Soviet school for 4 years, from the 5th to the 8th grade, in the former Komi ASSR, where the Bulgarians built 4 cities in the taiga, 3 of them are still functioning. Here's proof of the quality of Soviet education.

[Flooding]

Thank you.

[sifgame]

Well, why is it here in Bulgarian, translate it into Russian, once you post, this is a Russian-language site. Although you don't care, no one is interested in anyone anyway, and so everything is clear.

[pytar]

Quote: sifgame

Well, why is it here in Bulgarian, translate it into Russian, once you post, this is a Russian-language site. Although you don't care, no one is interested in anyone anyway, and so everything is clear.

Translated into the next post. If you don’t care and not interested, why then write?

[ironic]

And what's not clear there? Is the language closely related? And the forum is open, it means international.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: ironic

And what's not clear there? Is the language closely related? And the forum is open, it means international.

At least sometimes you need to read the rules

) With all due respect to other languages, the language of communication in the comments to published articles is Russianbecause

[ironic]

And he tries to write in Russian, but links to documents can be in other languages, for the originals.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: ironic

but links to documents can also be in other languages,

Why is the link not in Russian?
Should I run for a dictionary and translate?
But it was impossible to do this right away?

Member 9. (1) The armed forces guarantee the sovereignty, security and independence of the country and protect its territorial integrity.

12. The Republic of Bulgaria does not face / now / with an immediate military threat. A region-wide war is unlikely.

[ironic]

It was possible, but he thought that a closely related language would be understood. I don’t think you need to scold for this.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Lipchanin

and they are on a mission to protect territorial integrity и sovereignty Bulgaria

From whom?

From enemies of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria. Turkey for example. But the joke is not in this, but in the fact that the so-called "last dictator of Europe", that is, Father and the Belarus led by him, is better versed in NATO standards than one of the countries of this bloc, judging by the quote below. What a sur.

.Karakachanov expressed his satisfaction with the work of the Belarusian JSC "558th Aviation Repair Plant", which is considered one of the leading aircraft repair enterprises in the CIS. It was he who was entrusted with the repair and modernization of eight Su-25 attack aircraft of the Bulgarian Air Force. He noted that after the work carried out, the aircraft began to comply with NATO standards. What this means is not understood even in Bulgaria itself.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: OrangeBigg

From enemies of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria. Turkey for example.

So the Turks are partners in NATO.

[pytar]

So the Turks are partners in NATO.

The Turks and you are partners, though not in NATO. With such partners, you always need to be on the lookout ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

, though not on NATO.

A trade partnership is not a military one.
Nobody will force us to fight, you are ELEMENTARY

[tralflot1832]

So the Turks squeezed half of Cyprus in the 70s, and now there is a gazik. NATO is strictly on gaz, the right of the first night at the Americans. Lefiathan? Americans and not for beautiful eyes.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tralflot1832

Duc Turks squeezed half of Cyprus in the 70s, and now there is a gazik

And I mean it. Will force and go against us

[komuso]

And we have gas fields in the shelf zone. The biggest is "Tervel", if I remember well there are 2-3 "Khan Asparukh" and "Khan Krum"

[tralflot1832]

In the Russian tyrnet, information about your fields ends in 16 years, but how is it really with you? Or watch marine traffic?

[pytar]

Nobody will force us to fight, you are ELEMENTARY

It will make you ELEMENTARY. Your propaganda steadily creates the image of the enemy. The power so diverts the attention of society from internal problems. As much as the country is worse, so more and more evil external enemies "are". Classics in the genre, nothing new.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

It will make you ELEMENTARY

Who will make us attack you ???

Your propaganda steadily creates the image of the enemy.

And NATO is not our enemy?

Power so diverts the attention of society from internal problems

These problems are known to everyone and attention is not diverted from them in any way.

As much as the country is worse, so more and more evil external enemies "are".

There is no need to look for them, they themselves have pinned themselves to our borders
Name at least one enemy near your borders?

[tralflot1832]

And where did they get the idea that everything is so bad with us! There is a construction boom on the northern coast of the Black Sea. And I assure you oligarchs are not building houses for themselves. The northerners are full of power. And we are not going to fight yet, but we need an eye and an eye for NATO. NATO is gathering, behind every tree on our border Iskanders are imagining. You can only hear from your side that Russia wants to take the Baltic states, and then feed it. And we need it. We have moved away from our borders and you will be happy. We have strategic nuclear forces now on the main hegemon. not enough, but here you are still getting confused. Does Russia want to die in confrontation with the United States? You can't make us dance to the American tune. Could have got our gas much earlier if they hadn't been led by the United States. How's it gotten warmer with our gas,

[pytar]

Andrey, half of my relatives are Russians. I often live in the Russian Federation for a long time. I know perfectly well how your situation is ... No NATO is going to attack you. This is sheer nonsense. Nobody needs that. Capital, resources, and so the rivers flow out of the Russian Federation. The propaganda background of modern Russia looks completely wild. Frankly speaking, think so as you wish.

[tralflot1832]

Our market is profitable, speculators come from abroad, take off their gesheft and leave. The most crazy people keep their capital abroad. I have already written here more than once that since 14, Europe has found only 4 million euros in the accounts of sanctioned officials and firms. what is happening with us look at the site: Made by us! So we are not all bad, as even on this site believe.

[pytar]

So we are not all bad, as even this site thinks.

I'm not saying that everything is bad. And not even that bad! But that the picture from the TV and reality have little in common, it's a fact! And so, I would like to wish the Russians prosperity, success in all areas! Russians are extremely talented people, and the country is the richest in the world! You just need to create conditions and Russia will be ahead of the rest of the world! Unfortunately, the authorities only care about their bottomless pockets! Therefore, I say that your enemies are not so outside as inside the country.

[tralflot1832]

The TV is used only for watching sports. Better to check the information on the Internet 100 times. And your health, the rest will follow.

[Ugochaves]

Nobody is going to attack us? Excuse me, but what post do you personally occupy in NATO structures to assert so categorically? Are you really Stoltenberg yourself?

[pytar]

Nobody is going to attack us? Excuse me, but what post do you personally occupy in NATO structures to assert so categorically? Are you really Stoltenberg yourself?

Thank God not Stoltenberg! I judge by the state of the degraded military potential of NATO and the fact that the war between NATO and the Russian Federation will be disastrous for the entire planet. No one is so crazy / Stoltenberg is definitely not / to burn down his comfortable office ... why ...?!?! There is no sense!

[Aviator_]

The Turks and you are partners, though not in NATO.

Partners are partners for us, but until the next conflict situation. And NATO is with you forever, until you officially leave it.

[pytar]

The Turks are an unpredictable partner for both the Russian Federation and NATO. Anything can be expected from them.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

Anything can be expected from them.

Do you think our missiles are not aimed at them?

[pytar]

Do you think our missiles are not aimed at them?

You and I can only guess. Neither you nor I know what the missiles have in the memory of navigation systems.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

what are the missiles in the memory of navigation systems.

Everything is all right there
For whom it is necessary, they will not miss

[Prisoner]

Well, with you, too, not everything is so simple. Sorry.

[pytar]

Well, with you, too, not everything is so simple.

Accept as universal planetary fact: With no one, everything is never unambiguous. Everyone has their own interests.
The question is that with some there are fundamental contradictions, which for a while situationally manage to extinguish until they are clearly blown out in the foreground. That's exactly how you deal with the Turks.
You and I, there are no such contradictions. I would say that there are common interests of a fundamental nature, which sooner or later will come into play.

[vl903]

what about the Turks exactly said

[pytar]

But the joke is not in this, but in the fact that the so-called "last dictator of Europe", that is, Old Man and the Belarus led by him, is better versed in NATO standards than one of the countries of this bloc, judging by the quote below.

Belarusians have made repairs to Sushki 5+! In fact, this is not only major repairs, but also modernization

Our pilots are generous in praise! This is the case when the work itself speaks about you, what you are and how much you cost!
Unfortunately with the MiG-29, which they tried to repair in Russia, the situation turned out exactly the opposite!

[Avior]

What this means is not understood even in Bulgaria itself.

similar to the personal opinion of the anonymous author of the article.
The anonymous author does not consider it necessary to separate statements from his own name and from the name of the person he writes about. Unfortunately, in the articles of some authors on VO, especially anonymous ones, this approach is becoming the norm.
That's sur and it turns out.

[ANB]

... From whom?

Yes there is such a mess that from all the neighbors. And practically all of them are NATO members. And the SU-25, which is compatible with NATO standards, is a noble trolling. :)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: ANB

Yes there is such a mess that from all the neighbors.

Got it.
And I was already afraid that from Russia

[zloybond]

We simply must never forget that under all circumstances, for or against, the Bulgarian brothers will drop these bombs on Russian soldiers and citizens. That's all the attempts at friendship. So it was and will be.

[Lipchanin]

So and so, and so, but they refused to shoot at the exercises on the dummies of our soldiers

[zloybond]

they may have refused to shoot at the dummies, but we must never forget that along with the German army, divisions of another 22 states invaded the USSR, and the Wehrmacht received material assistance from the United States and Great Britain. They had a kind of European Union. Now they have created a new union ... I look at the faces of the same + Georgians, Ukrainians ... who else is there ... tribals ...
But the couch guard is sure that there will be no delivery to their house .... That's why the couch guard.

[Flooding]

Quote: zloybond

So it was and will be.

it was different.
but how will we know when it will be.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Lipchanin

and they are on a mission to protect territorial integrity и sovereignty Bulgaria

From whom?

They want to butt with us out of old habit

[Doccor18]

And they "butted" with us?
In my opinion, Russia throughout history has done nothing but save its "brothers" from the Ottoman yoke. And in World War II they had the sense to put down their weapons and scatter to the huts ...

[Reserve buildbat]

But in wars they constantly found themselves against Russia.

[Bagatur]

Russia has always supported its neighbors against us!

[Quadro]

Quote: Doccor18

And they "butted" with us?
In my opinion, Russia throughout history has done nothing but save its "brothers" from the Ottoman yoke. And in World War II they had the sense to put down their weapons and scatter to the huts ...

During the Second World War, they did not scatter. Were occupying forces in the Balkans instead of the Germans, thus freeing several German divisions.

[pytar]

During the Second World War, they did not scatter.

Where will they scatter from? I'm from Macedonia! A third of Bulgarians are Macedonian!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

They want to butt with us out of old habit

And on the next branch they proved the opposite to me

Bulgarian politicians have repeatedly stated that they are not involved in any anti-Russian military plans.
"07.12.2021 Premier: Bulgaria is not participating in the scenario of the attack on Russia"
https://rus.bg/obschestvo/obschestvo/31637-premer-bolgariya-ne-uchastvuet-v-stsenarii-napadeniya-na-rossiyu
In the Russian media and forums / VOs are not excluded / give a soul in order to present Bulgaria as an enemy, but if we look at the real facts, the situation is completely different:

Pay attention to the date

[tralflot1832]

Duc they all got sick at once on Poseidon 21. An error in the typing, if about the date. Then you can drag Freud.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tralflot1832

.Error in typing, if about the date

Yes, this is understandable, but at first I thought that they were running in front of the locomotive

[pytar]

Quote: Lipchanin

And on the next branch they proved the opposite to me

T. n. Mr. Fomkin, specialized in the "Bulgarian direction" of disinformation war. He posts the same mantras to every place he can. I don't pay attention to him.

[Reserve buildbat]

I correctly understood that if I buy a Toyota for the rubles I earned, it will be a Russian car and the Yapi have nothing to do with it?

[Lipchanin]

Well, that's their "logic"

[Flooding]

Quote: Stroibat stock

I correctly understood that if I buy a Toyota for the rubles I earned, it will be a Russian car and the Yapi have nothing to do with it?

not quite
if you pay in dollars, then the car will be Russian-American

[Reserve buildbat]

Do you think the Bulgarians paid off with their national money? Obviously the same Euros or dollars, so that Sushki became Euro-Bulgarian or Amero-Bulgarian

[Bagatur]

Do Gazprom and Rodoboronexport work for rubles?

[Reserve buildbat]

Do you want to say that after crossing the Russian border, gas and oil become not Russian, but something else?

[pytar]

You are again confusing origin and property! I do not know about your goods, but we write on the labels origin, manufacturer, importer / if the goods are imported /. The product is owned by the importer / seller until I buy it. By the way, with gas / oil, too!

[Keyser soze]

do you think the Bulgarians paid off with their national money?

And we can pay with our own money .... Do you know when the exchange rate of the national currency changed for the last time? In 1998 ...
And since then 1 euro is equal to 1,95 leva.

[Reserve buildbat]

I am sincerely glad for you. But this did not make Russian planes Bulgarian. You cannot produce them. There is no technology. You cannot repair, for the same reason. So what's in the Su-25 Bulgarian? Cockades? Don't make people laugh

[Keyser soze]

You cannot produce them.

What, can you?

There is no technology.

Dam, UTB cutting edge technology in Su 25

Can't repair

But the Belarusians can. Better than yours. You and the kettle cannot be repaired on time, as not only our saga with the MiG 29 has shown, but also the worldwide success of the Sukhoi Superjet, where you were unable to deliver spare parts within months and all foreign users simply returned the aircraft to you so that they would not occupy hangars. ..

[Reserve buildbat]

You did not describe us, the Russians, but the Ukrainians. Don't get confused.

[pytar]

But this did not make Russian planes Bulgarian.

The planes were Soviet until they moved to Bulgaria and became Bulgarian. What you think of them, we do not care. As the brand new F-16s will be delivered, they will also become Bulgarian.

[pytar]

It is a not Russian planes, because they were paid for by Bulgarian citizens. it bulgarian planesand they carry out a mission to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Bulgaria.

That's right, he says! Aircraft purchased from the Soviet Union 40 years ago! Property of Bulgaria! So Bulgarian!

I correctly understood that if I buy a Toyota for the rubles I earned, it will be a Russian car and the Yapi have nothing to do with it?

If you buy a Toyota, does it belong to the Japanese or to you? Will you skate it or will they? You say about her - "This is my car!" or "This is Japan's car!"

[Reserve buildbat]

Hello)
Let's define it right away. Toyota will remain a Japanese car by origin, but it will become mine by belonging. It will not become Russian in any way, even if it is released in China or in Russia. Toyota is a brand. Brand, if you like. The same story with "Su". Aircraft of the "Su" brand were and will be Russian, despite the fact that Bulgarians bought them and Belarusians repaired them. This is a Russian design, a Russian design bureau. By the way, in the USSR, the Su-25 was produced, as far as I remember, in Georgia. Say, these are Georgian planes?

[pytar]

Hello Ivan!
Sorry, have you read what you wrote yourself?

The same story with "Su". Aircraft of the "Su" brand were and will be Russian ... This is a Russian design, a Russian design bureau.

How long has it been Russian, if we are talking about 40-year-old cars made in the USSR! RF since 91 after all! Before it was the USSR, there they designed, produced, and we bought them from it! You say it yourself:

By the way, in the USSR, the Su-25 was produced, as far as I remember, in Georgia. Say, these are Georgian planes?

Not Russian, not Georgian, but Soviet production! And here are the "Russians", if the Su-25 bought from the USSR belong to Bulgaria, and were they repaired in Belarus?

"Toyota" will remain a Japanese car in origin, but it will be mine by belonging.

The Minister of Defense is just talking about the belonging of Sushki, not about their origin! These are our Bulgarian, in the Bulgarian Air Force! Owned by Bulgaria!

[Reserve buildbat]

The fact of the matter is that people were outraged by the origin of the aircraft, and the Minister of Defense began to talk about belonging. In short, he dodged an answer, along the way starting to mislead people. Or if they buy an F-35 from you, they will also shout happily that they have received new Bulgarian aircraft?

[pytar]

The fact of the matter is that people were outraged by the origin of airplanes ...

Those who were outraged, clearly did not know that these planes Soviet origin, not Russian.

... and the Minister of Defense started talking about belonging. In short, he dodged an answer, along the way starting to mislead people.

The Minister of Defense said everything correctly. In fact, everything is so.

Or if they buy an F-35 from you, they will also shout joyfully that they have received new Bulgarian aircraft?

I do not know if the F-35 will be bought, but about the F-16, whose delivery is expected soon, they say so - Bulgarian F-16... If they are our property, with our identification marks and our pilots, then BULGARIAN!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pytar

How long has it been Russian, if we are talking about 40-year-old cars made in the USSR! RF since 91, after all!

Is it okay that Russia is the legal successor of the USSR?
And nothing that Russia has paid off the debts of all republics and therefore when they say the USSR should be perceived as the Russian Federation

[pytar]

Is it okay that Russia is the legal successor of the USSR?

Dad had a Lada Kopeyka. I skated even with a creak until 2010, when I went to melalol. Never in any documents, or in conversations about her, no one said that she was "Russian". Soviet car, that's how it is in fact! Here is a post about the Soviet car Volga GAZ-24, for illustration:

Looking at the production period, we have Lada Niva 2121, production until the 90s is called Soviet, and new models are Russian. Lada 2101, 2106 are also Soviet, but Lada Granta is already Russian!
Whether you like it or not, it doesn't matter. Your considerations regarding relations with the republics are not for us.

[Professor]

The service life of the fuselages of these aircraft was increased by 800 flight hours, and the resource of the R-95Sh turbojet engines by 500 hours. This will allow the Bulgarian Air Force to operate the Su-25 until 2027 or 2028.

500 hours for 7 years ... No comments
Are they going to fly on them or what?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: professor

Are they going to fly on them or what?

- Dad, buy me a bike.
- So I broke your legs that week
- So I will admire him

[Avior]

40 hours per year

[Errr]

More than 70.
70 x 7 = 490.

[Mouse]

Soviet military aircraft repaired in Belarus, which are in service with the Bulgarian Air Force,

What's incomprehensible? They created it there, adjusted it there ... and that's it.
.

after the work carried out, the aircraft began to comply with NATO standards.

[Thrifty]

Well, well, at least they didn't remember that the Su25 were produced in Georgia, where they promise to create every month for a new aircraft from scratch, and all the details are "their own", that is, a Chinese counterfact ...

[Aerodrome]

The fuselage life of these aircraft was increased by 800 flight hours,

as ? seams "zamovilil" or what?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

They want to butt with us out of old habit

And on the next branch they proved the opposite to me

Bulgarian politicians have repeatedly stated that they are not involved in any anti-Russian military plans.
"07.12.2021 Premier: Bulgaria is not participating in the scenario of the attack on Russia"
https://rus.bg/obschestvo/obschestvo/31637-premer-bolgariya-ne-uchastvuet-v-stsenarii-napadeniya-na-rossiyu
In the Russian media and forums / VOs are not excluded / give a soul in order to present Bulgaria as an enemy, but if we look at the real facts, the situation is completely different:

Pay attention to the date

If you look closely at them in the media sphere, they are discussing the appointment of a new Russian ambassador to Bulgaria, Eleonora Mitrofanova, who visited the Russian courtyard in the Church of St. Nicholas of Mirlikisky, where Archimandrite Vasian (Zmeev) and the secretary of the Complex, Archpriest Yevgeny Pavelchuk, told Mrs. Mitrofanova about the history of the temple. It's funny to read responses and opuses

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

If you look closely at them in the media field

Never interested

[Growlers]

"After repairs, the Su-25 meet NATO standards" when on the ground or in the sky?

[EDWARD]

changed the tires, painted the body, installed a good stereo radio ... and it began to match)

[pytar]

changed the tires, painted the body, installed a good stereo radio ... and it began to match)

It was...


It has become ...


The stereo radio is awesome!
Belarusians are advanced in the design and manufacture of military displays.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Doccor18

And they "butted" with us?
In my opinion, Russia throughout history has done nothing but save its "brothers" from the Ottoman yoke. And in World War II they had the sense to put down their weapons and scatter to the huts ...

Well, yes, in the First World War they fired only in this way, near Thessaloniki where the "partners" in the person of the French general starved the Russians and Serbs and sent real "French" Zouaves and Berbers to help

[From Germany]

After the adoption of such imperfections as the A400M or the penguin, the expression "NATO standards" sounds like a mockery.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

If you look closely at them in the media field

Never interested

It is sometimes useful and fun to watch them for the outlook.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

It is sometimes useful and fun to watch them for the outlook.

Yes, you still can't take care of everyone.
Here, from one VO, the head is spinning

[Dmitry Potapov]

What a good stormtrooper!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Thrifty

Well, well, at least they didn't remember that the Su25 were produced in Georgia, where they promise to create every month for a new aircraft from scratch, and all the details are "their own", that is, a Chinese counterfact ...

So one is now Not Georgia, but Sakartvelo Everything is even better in Georgia than in Ukraine - this is the main thing. Everything is fine in Georgia! They build wonderful hotels in Batumi and the staff diligently learns English and Turkish. Although there are more and more Georgians in Russia. 

PS They have not yet answered for our peacekeepers and for our Ossetians

[TermNachTer]

The glider resource is increased by 800 hours))) how? put patches on the fuselage and planes?)))

[Ros 56]

What are you, comrade. This is time, plus the energy to spend. Very unproductive. And so he took the plane's form, with the help of three Ps, he came up with types of work and made a note. I put a squiggle on, slapped the seal and ....... that's it. Fly guys.

[TermNachTer]

Well then, it should be written that the airframe's resource is extended by visual inspection)))

[Cucumbers]

I like it. To the country from the hostile NATO bloc, brothers Belarusians repair military attack aircraft perfectly, supply diesel fuel for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass. And at the same time they take money from Russia. This seems to be a multi-vector nature. And rightly so, the MiG-29 was poorly repaired by the Bulgarians, but how did they want it?

[vl903]

it is not correct that ours themselves cannot decide and say - if we don’t build up and trade in military goods. and then we sell here with one hand, we do not sell here and spoil our own image. everyone already understands that you can kill us, we are a maximum of tomatoes and then somehow it is not clear and half-hearted.

[pytar]

And it is right that the MiG-29 for Bulgarians poorly repaired, but how did they want?

Wrong word ... Couldn't fix it at all! And they paid forfeits! We didn't find some parts in our warehouses! Can you imagine what a mess they have in the company?

[Ros 56]

It will be funny if suddenly, for reasons beyond our control, in case of a mess, this Rook hits the Belarusians. Next time they will think ahead with their heads. I understand this is from the realm of fantasy, but, but, but .......

[pytar]

I understand this is from the realm of fantasy, but, but, but .......

It's good that you understand ... Why didn't you write it in the "fantasy" section? Somewhere there should be such!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: zloybond

We simply must never forget that under all circumstances, for or against, the Bulgarian brothers will drop these bombs on Russian soldiers and citizens. That's all the attempts at friendship. So it was and will be.

Or again they want to sit like this:

[Pamir]

Belarus was rather an intermediary in modernization, in the Russian Federation the West would not allow modernization. And so Belarus is neutral, there really is no avionics, but the work could be carried out unofficially by Russian specialists, and voila, everything is in marshmallows, the plane meets NATO standards, money for modernization, too, where necessary. The Bulgarians are understandable, with an appeal to the Russian Federation, neither the Russian Federation nor the enemy, after all, is everything in openwork, is it necessary to strengthen the power of Bulgaria? It is necessary, but if from a manufacturer, then not through official channels, through third countries, without Russian specialists were more likely to be found there. Everyone is good, everyone is happy.

[Pamir]

Although the SU25 was once produced in Georgia, steam locomotives were once produced there, but what was left of that was once produced, so it was probably not without the Russian Federation through unofficial channels.

[Pamir]

By the way, I have nothing against the Bulgarians, how they can modernize, there is nothing unusual in this. If they are satisfied with the aircraft, originally from the USSR, then why not modernize it, this is natural and normal.

[pytar]

Although SU25 was once produced in Georgia ...

Bulgarian combat Su-25s were produced in Tbilisi, and combat training ones - in Ulan-Ude.

[Pamir]

That's just the point, but what is left of that time in Tbilisi? And so, the planes of Bulgaria, so it's your right what to do with them. Do you consider it necessary to modernize them, your business, where you decide for yourself, the question of who can. I don’t understand that everyone is so not indifferent to someone else's property? Let's say I'm on a drum at all, I am NOT interested in the USSR technique. It will not be with anyone in 10-15 years anyway.
I am more interested in RF equipment and for RF, SU34 for example, or SU57.

[Vaўkalak]

What's the point if the Bulgarian MiG-29s are being repaired in the Russian Federation and no one is hiding anything from whom ???

[Pamir]

So the problem is that in the post-Soviet space, there are no countries producing avionics with the exception of the Russian Federation. The main part of production in the Russian Federation remained from the USSR. Ukraine helped itself, Uzbekistan, Georgia too. So if anyone has anything left of the USSR, in terms of the need for modernization without the participation of the Russian Federation, it is unlikely. And in what ways, contracts can be drawn up through third countries. .Belarus, honestly, I don’t know what can be modernized in the SU, what can be done about the chassis? Again, an opinion from myself, without approval. And there is also an important question, there is a replacement of modules that have exhausted their service life, or the aircraft are being retrofitted with something new. “And the work is done without problems by specialists from the manufacturer on the territory of third countries, less posters, less hassle, especially if there are political obstacles.

[pytar]

Regarding the repair of the Bulgarian Su-25 in Belarus, there is a long list of positions subject to modernization. For example, installing a modern navigation system and communication system. In addition, the ability to use more modern missiles and ammunition has been added. Back in 2019, Defense Minister Karakachanov said that the contract provides for the participation of specialists from Russia in helping the Belarusians, if they think it is necessary.
As you can see, there are no secrets for Russians and no one makes it a problem! How can there be a threat to Russia, the plane they are modernizing and they know everything about it?
Moreover, bulg. The Ministry of Defense was in parallel negotiating with Russia. to the party for the acquisition of licensing for the repair of Drying in the Bulgarian company "Avianams". But since ours have no experience, and the transfer of licenses, equipment, personnel training promised to last no less than 2-3 years, and it would have turned out more expensive, they thought it was better to give an order to Belarusians. It depends on how long the Su-25 will remain in service, and will decide about licenses.

[Pamir]

Well, I understandably do not delve into the intricacies of the modernization of the weapons of the Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria. There you know better. In modernization there is always a problem of terms-deadlines-terms. I usually do that, although I also do not always succeed.

[pytar]

Belarus was more likely a mediator in modernization, in the Russian Federation the West would not allow modernization.

A Russian company also took part in the tender, but its prices were much higher, and as far as I remember, they were not settled in terms of time. There is no fundamental problem about the participation of Ross. companies for tenders for the repair of Bulgarian military equipment. With RKS MiG signed an agreement for the overhaul of the MiG-29, but Ross. unfortunately, the side did not manage to meet either the deadlines or the elements. As a result, she had to pay forfeits. There is also a contract with Russia for T-72 tanks. company. All the rules so far.

[Pamir]

We have a sore point with the deadlines for the execution of contracts. There is a problem in this, it’s stupid to deny. Maybe at least the tanks will be modernized on time. We can’t always make contracts for ourselves, there’s not much. That is, that is.

[pytar]

As far as I understand, the tanks will be repaired at our Terem plant with Ross. repair kits and with the help of Ross. specialists. In addition, they are going to mount an Israeli LMS and communications, so that an Israeli company will also participate.

[Pamir]

This suggests that it is best to modernize the equipment, if possible, on your territory, it is both better quality control and control of execution time, and this is probably more correct.

[pytar]

Of course it's better, but not always there is an opportunity, and often it turns out to be more expensive. After all, the manufacturer knows his car better, and its spare parts are cheaper.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: pytar

are you the last Bulgarian in VO? or is there someone else left?

Yes, there are still 1-2. There were many before, but they left. All were Russophiles, but it is good to "treat" her / Russophilia / here on VO. Yes, and a lot of Russian media. What you yourself are doing, not a single anti-Russian propaganda can do. That's for sure!

No "propaganda" is needed it's worth reading you here

[Keyser soze]

A deep bow to Belarusian mechanics and engineers! If our super-fat minister of defense squeezed into the dryer and even that lifted him into the air, then this is an engineering feat of the century! Not everyone can make a truck out of a plane-trooper ...

[m_silenus]

Don't believe it. He's such a hippopotamus that he won't fit into the cockpit. Look for a photo of Karakachanov.

[RoTTor]

On the Su-25 there WAS NO and there is NO STEERING WHEEL.
Fuck such affiliates!

[Viktor Afanasev]

95% or even more of the Bulgarian Armed Forces are Soviet equipment and ships.
Already 30 years have passed! That's how they built in the USSR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pytar]

95% or even more of the Bulgarian Armed Forces are Soviet equipment and ships. Already 30 years have passed! This is how they built in the USSR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soviet is a symbol of endurance and durability!

[Viktor Afanasev]

Right! All the property of the SOVIET time would have served longer

[Klingon]

Turkish S-400s cannot be integrated according to NAT standards and Bulgarian Su-25Ks can! Oh how!

[Viktor Afanasev]

It may well be. It is necessary to look at the requirements, standards.
С400 most likely it cannot be integrated into a common information network - therefore it does not correspond ...
А Su25 in the export version, until 1991, it is not very rich in electronics. What we have (radio communication, radar) could have been changed. The glider and engines are not limited by NATO standards. The suspension for ammunition could have been changed ... Etc.

[DDT]

Yes ... Lipchanin was pecked. they didn't even peck at them, but tore them to pieces ... Herods!
But reading the comments I understand ... it's hard for Russian pensioners. And she seems to be near the borders ... and 8 attack aircraft, already a "threat to the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation" ...

[Der Spiegel]

I have a question for connoisseurs: is there specific (not hypothetical, not implying), namely, specific information that does not tolerate double or ambiguous semantic interpretations, indicating that NATO is a direct or latent threat to the Russian Federation? And a sub-question to the main one: the goal of NATO in the vector of confrontation with the Russian Federation?

[agoran]

That's what I like about repairmen's sites, because they don't answer stupid questions there.
You can ask a question: but it doesn't work for me, save me, help me, no one will answer.
And if a specialist asks a question: such and such a technique, such and such s / n, did this and that, discard the dump, they will always help.
Well, to your stupid question, there will be another question, what is the flight time from Amari to Peter?

[Der Spiegel]

if there is essentially no answer, then the question is a priori "stupid" ...

[agoran]

Tex, there is no steering wheel on the Su-25.
Bulgaria is not a country where attack aircraft can be produced. Lecho, yes tasty, but no more.
The fuselage resource can be increased only by the manufacturer after a certain set of works.
You should not lean on brandy, otherwise it turns out delirium.

[Hikaro]

Leave Bulgaria to the Bulgarians :)) Moreover, there are not so many of them there! All young people scatter to clean toilets and clean up after respectable gentlemen from Rich Europe! And it's time to change trends and finish songs about Slavic brothers and all other nonsense !! Russia should have a pragmatic approach to such things, no need to remember the past! Moreover, the modern Bulgarian youth do not care about Russia and the Russians! Does Russia have a large trade turnover with Bulgaria? I think no! What can Bulgaria offer Russia? The same as Turkey and Azerbaijan and other countries! Mainly agricultural products! I think this is not particularly relevant! Therefore, we smile and wave to the Bulgarians and let them go on with their forest!

[mojohed2012]

Ha, Soviet-built Su-25 - meet NATO standards ?! Do not make me laugh...
Although, as I recall, the USA is producing an analogue of the RPG-7, and somehow the design of the USSR grenade launcher also began to meet NATO standards.
In general, what is a NATO standard? It seems that if a weapon is bought at a high price in the United States or a country that produces its weapons to NATO makes payments to NATO that the United States recognizes as acceptable, or, for example, if the United States cannot make such weapons itself, then all this also complies with NATO Standards ...

[Kostadinov]

The tactical mission in the last exercise beat off the invasion of 200 people from 13 armored vehicles from a neighboring state.
That says it all about the Bulgarian army today.

[wow]

Yeah, to NATO standards - the speed was displayed not in km / h, but in miles! O-O-O-chen seriously, damn it !!!