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"Will surpass the basic version": the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has decided on the armament of corvettes for the Navy

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"Will surpass the basic version": the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has decided on the armament of corvettes for the Navy

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense has finally decided on the equipment of Turkish corvettes, which are planned to be built for the Ukrainian Navy. As stated in the military department, the Ukrainian corvettes in their capabilities will surpass the basic version of the Turkish ships. This was stated by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksandr Mironyuk.


According to the Ukrainian commander, the Ukrainian Neptune was chosen as the anti-ship missile for the Ada-type corvettes, but other anti-ship missiles are being considered, including the American Harpoon, Turkish Atmaca, Norwegian Naval Strike Missile and other missiles.

It must be understood that a corvette is a ship that will serve for several decades. During this time, new anti-ship missiles will be developed, which will have different characteristics and dimensions, so we do not limit ourselves in advance in an artificial framework.

- said Mironyuk.

The ship's anti-aircraft defense is planned to be organized using the MICA anti-aircraft complex produced by the European MBDA group. The manufacturer confirmed its readiness to supply it to Ukraine. At the same time, the option of installing a Ukrainian anti-aircraft complex is not excluded, if the defense industry of Ukraine is able to develop it.

It was decided not to change the combat information and control system of the ship, since the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is not able to offer something similar. Therefore, the Turkish GENESIS system will be installed on the Ukrainian corvettes, integrated "into all NATO standards for communication and automatic command and control systems, including the Link 16 tactical data exchange network."

It was also decided to keep the original sensor systems, the ship's radar and radio reconnaissance complex. They will be the same as in the corvettes of the Turkish Navy. In the future, as in the case of the air defense system, the doors for the national manufacturer are open. But we have no right to risk the combat effectiveness of the ships, the first of which should be ready at the 2023 level.

- added Mironyuk.

Thus, judging by the equipment and armament of the corvette, from the Ukrainian one it will only have the Neptune anti-ship missile system, and even then, if they manage to create its "naval" version. Earlier it was reported that the power plant on the corvettes, in addition to the head one, should also be of Ukrainian production.
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  1. Gato
    Gato 27 February 2021 11: 47
    +6
    if they manage to create

    If they find pennies and if they can not steal them.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 27 February 2021 11: 54
      +8
      Quote: Gato
      If they find pennies and if they can not steal them

      How not to steal it? And what is all this for then? Do you really need a fleet?
      1. cniza
        cniza 27 February 2021 12: 11
        +6
        And the fleet must and must be stolen, but steal ahead ...
        1. oleg-gr
          oleg-gr 27 February 2021 12: 48
          +5
          The most important question: Do you have pennies? Or do they expect from the Turks an action of unprecedented generosity?
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 27 February 2021 12: 57
            +6
            For many years Velikoukry have been enthusiastically discussing and dreaming what a wonderful, best corvette they will have in the world. What is called: "fools are getting richer with a dummy."
            I wonder if they have time to build something before their Ukraine will die or, possibly, fall to pieces under their "wise" leadership? laughing
          2. cniza
            cniza 27 February 2021 12: 58
            +5
            No, the owner promised to give it up, but he can forbid paying the Turks ...
    2. venik
      venik 27 February 2021 15: 21
      +2
      Quote: Gato
      If they find pennies and if they can not steal them.

      =======
      I'm not at all sure that there will be more than 1 corvette (built in Turkey) - the money for the rest will be successfully plundered, as, indeed, always!
  2. figwam
    figwam 27 February 2021 11: 48
    +1
    Shaw have already saved up money for the Sultan, or are they getting richer again with a thought?
    1. Gato
      Gato 27 February 2021 11: 51
      +3
      Shaw has already saved up money for the Sultan?

      No, they will give Roksolankami.
      1. figwam
        figwam 27 February 2021 11: 53
        +5
        Quote: Gato
        No, they will give Roksolankami.

        This is in the sense of garny maids? Well, they really can and can.
        1. Gato
          Gato 27 February 2021 12: 08
          +3
          The cost of an Ada-class corvette is about $ 250 million. It’s for them to plow and plow in the “strawberry” fields.
          1. Ovsigovets
            Ovsigovets 28 February 2021 23: 31
            0
            for himself he is 250 million evergreens
    2. Rubi0
      Rubi0 27 February 2021 13: 58
      +2
      Better, Tariffs for the population have been raised from 30% and more, the losses can themselves dream of a pair of corvettes
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 27 February 2021 11: 52
    +2
    Will surpass the base case ":

    So cool ... the great admirals, designers, planned / decided.
    1. cniza
      cniza 27 February 2021 12: 09
      +4
      Well, this is Ukraine, everything should be more powerful and higher for them ...

      Good time! hi
      1. Gato
        Gato 27 February 2021 12: 15
        +2
        hi
        more powerful and higher ...

        .. and preferably for free.
        If the Turks are going to build the last corvette of this series for the packs for 7 (!) Years, then where are the Raguli going to squeeze into this queue?
        1. cniza
          cniza 27 February 2021 12: 23
          +4
          They were promised, the whole world is with them ... lol
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 27 February 2021 13: 08
        +3
        Welcome soldier
        The worse things are going on at the top, the more cheerful / cheerful the statements of any brave warriors will be!
        Skakuas need to be stimulated, distracted from pressing problems, at least.
        1. cniza
          cniza 27 February 2021 13: 11
          +5
          This is a difficult task even in Ukraine, many already suspect that something is going wrong and in the wrong direction ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 February 2021 13: 16
            +3
            Well, yes, the skakuas also conceived a thought ... boom to look at the result.
            There are not many options - either the jumps are even higher, faster, or jumping in different directions ... the third is not given, to them.
            1. cniza
              cniza 27 February 2021 13: 19
              +6
              It is difficult to describe what is happening there:

              1. rocket757
                rocket757 27 February 2021 14: 04
                +3
                There is a show, but not everyone is fun.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 27 February 2021 17: 41
                  +3
                  But what fun is there if there is devastation all around ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 27 February 2021 18: 21
                    +2
                    Quote: cniza
                    if there is ruin all around ...

                    but it's not exactly who has how ... i.e. options that some have everything in chocolate now also have a fact.
  4. Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 February 2021 11: 54
    +3
    It is planned, will be, etc. etc. Mriya, mriya. What is the difference between a "broad Ukrainian" from other people? His dreams don't come true.
  5. mark1
    mark1 27 February 2021 12: 01
    +1
    Of course, all these options for weapons are complete bullshit, if something changes from the Turkish version by 23, then only in the direction of reduction. But 23 years ... is still fast.
  6. cniza
    cniza 27 February 2021 12: 08
    +6
    Thus, judging by the equipment and armament of the corvette, from the Ukrainian one it will only have the Neptune anti-ship missile system, and even then, if they manage to create its "naval" version.


    Mriischiki, there is nothing more to say ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 February 2021 13: 10
      +3
      They will dance ... fighting gopok!
      1. cniza
        cniza 27 February 2021 13: 13
        +5
        And what, they can easily put the hopak on the armament of corvettes ... lol
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 27 February 2021 13: 17
          +3
          Then the hull and deck will have to be reinforced! Otherwise, they will be carried to the constituent members.
          1. cniza
            cniza 27 February 2021 13: 21
            +5
            I think that it will be used only in the very last case, so the deck will withstand ... lol
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 27 February 2021 14: 02
              +3
              What is the last one, when nothing else remains, how to make the enemy die from laughter?
              1. cniza
                cniza 27 February 2021 17: 40
                +3
                Well, yes, there are simply no other options ... yes
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 27 February 2021 18: 19
                  +2
                  Quote: cniza
                  Well, yes, there are simply no other options ... yes

                  some do not believe in this to the end ... usually OWN.
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra 27 February 2021 12: 09
    +4
    The corvette will be built under a contract in 2 years, and Ukraine for the first year, as they wrote, allocates 10% of the cost of the corvette, and that cost was considered WITHOUT weapons.
    You poison the tales of the clowns with your saucepan. "Will surpass" ... "Will be." Until there is money - and they will not "surpass" anything
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 27 February 2021 12: 24
      0
      ... As stated in the military department, the Ukrainian corvettes in their capabilities will surpass the basic version of the Turkish ships.


      By what means? If it says that.
      The Ukrainian "Neptune" was chosen as an anti-ship missile for the Ada-type corvettes, but options are being considered for other anti-ship missiles, including the American Harpoon, the Turkish Atmaca, the Norwegian Naval Strike Missile and other missiles.


      Judging by the equipment and armament of the corvette, from the Ukrainian one it will only have the Neptune anti-ship missile system, and even then, if they manage to create its "naval" version. Earlier it was reported that the power plant on the corvettes, in addition to the head one, should also be of Ukrainian production.


      It was decided not to change the combat information and control system of the ship, since the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is not able to offer something similar. Therefore, the Turkish GENESIS system will be installed on the Ukrainian corvettes, integrated "into all NATO standards for communication and automatic command and control systems, including the Link 16 tactical data exchange network."



      ... It was also decided to keep the original sensor systems, the ship's radar and radio-technical reconnaissance complex. They will be the same as in the corvettes of the Turkish Navy. In the future, as in the case of the air defense system, the doors for the national manufacturer are open. But we have no right to risk the combat effectiveness of the ships, the first of which should be ready at the 2023 level.

      - added Mironyuk.
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 27 February 2021 13: 01
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      Until there is money - and they will not "surpass anything"

      We, in the sense of the Russian Federation, have money, but not about the navy, honor, too, everyone is getting richer with a thought. And here and there tyryat is not childish, and no one thinks about the country, only fairy tales are told. The reality is not much different, if it were not for oil and gas, then it is not known who would not have been. In the words of the not forgotten Gogolev mayor, "Who are you laughing at? You are laughing at yourself."
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 February 2021 12: 13
    +3
    Yes, it will be the most powerful ship in terms of weapons in the world. But on paper. And so it will immediately sink the berth. Like a noble ship in the Austro-Hungarian Empire said this to his Emperor, considering his project of the most powerful ship in the world.
    1. Gato
      Gato 27 February 2021 12: 38
      +2
      in the Austro-Hungarian Empire said this to his Emperor, considering his project of the most powerful ship in the world

      In German. This emperor was Kaiser Wilhelm II. "This magnificent ship will have only one drawback: it will not be able to stay afloat."
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 27 February 2021 12: 40
        +1
        Sorry, amendment accepted! hi
        1. Gato
          Gato 27 February 2021 12: 44
          +2
          hi
          I remember from my childhood, it was an article in "Technique-youth" in the rubric of funny curiosities. On VO, Ukraine has tightly occupied a similar topic, slightly squeezing out the "Baltic dragons" laughing
          Already begins to set the teeth on edge.
  9. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 27 February 2021 12: 27
    -1
    Again, "oukroaina", how tired she is. Again, we do ......... we think, these zhurnalyugs, or these, for whom I am getting, will warn the journalists for "national hostility". I want to spit. I do not give a surname.
  10. Thrifty
    Thrifty 27 February 2021 12: 31
    0
    Yeah, he will be able to dive to a depth of 100 meters, take off to the same height, swim, just swim upward with the keel, on the verbal order of the trough commander, that is, a corvette wassat
  11. three
    three 27 February 2021 12: 44
    +2
    Our problem in relations with Ukraine is the undecided government. If it is a non-state, 404 country, etc. - why discuss all this, it is better to talk about the Congo, there are such passions now. If this is still a country in which Russians are being killed, everything Russian is being destroyed, then, my dear governments are countless thieves, it is necessary to limit or stop the supply of energy, energy resources, all trade, with the exception of strategic contractual obligations, to crush (and not give billions) economically legal and dictate terms. And, most importantly, to deal with the level of income of the population (progressive taxes, deoffshorization, banks, etc.). Otherwise, our government and ruler themselves will soon be demolished themselves, no mantras about “they’re worse, what do you want the same?” Will not help, because - a) now it is not worse, but not much; and b) negative dynamics (a bunch of calculations and I will not give numbers, laziness) ... Why "demolish"? Because when crossing the maskwa (in the regions already, but the regions are not important, right?) The pain threshold of low profitability (already a deficit of 136 billion) - the maskwiches and paid guests of the capital will show the whole world how the Russians differ from the chubaty beggars.
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 February 2021 12: 50
    0
    So their basic model is rubber boats. There is a maximum of only a light machine gun is possible.
    1. Gato
      Gato 27 February 2021 12: 54
      0
      .. and the ship's hedgehog lol
  13. HOMUT1430
    HOMUT1430 27 February 2021 13: 02
    0
    until they build (I doubt) the weapon will be different.
  14. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 27 February 2021 13: 34
    0
    A hedgehog walked through the forest, forgot how to breathe and died!
  15. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 27 February 2021 14: 49
    +1
    It seems to me that I read about the Ukrainian corvette for the first time ten years ago. Or even earlier, I don't remember exactly. And then he was already of a type in a high degree of readiness. And something tells me that in ten years this topic will be discussed again.
  16. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 27 February 2021 15: 29
    0
    Interestingly, did the Kuevo strategists pass arithmetic at school?))) Apparently, they do not know how to count at all. Banderlyand "did not pull" even "Vladimir the Great" (not to be confused with Putin), who, by all estimates, was much cheaper.
  17. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 27 February 2021 20: 14
    0
    And what about lifeboats on new corvettes, what will be the production?
  18. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 28 February 2021 02: 49
    0
    What corvettes? They float on inflatable mattresses!
  19. gurzuf
    gurzuf 28 February 2021 13: 35
    -1
    I wonder how these ambitious plans fit in with their financial capabilities.
  20. mvg
    mvg 28 February 2021 13: 39
    0
    By the way, a chic corvette, and let them not talk about 20380/385
    A corvette for the Black Sea Fleet should be like this: CODAQ (GTU + DIESEL), adequate air defense (MICA or RIM) + anti-aircraft missiles tested even recently in Libya, Harpoons and excellent radars (Thiles), electronic warfare. Plus helicopter
    PS: Adequate price !!! 2 times cheaper 20386
  21. wow
    wow 28 February 2021 18: 17
    0
    Well, as always in Ukraine - everything is in the distant future or the distant past!
  22. art266
    art266 28 February 2021 22: 25
    -1
    About the same, the Ukrainians said about their wonderful corvettes of the 58250 project in 2010-2011.
    And where are these corvettes?
    The Turkish will be the same story.
    In the best case, the Turks will put in one corps, and that's where it’s all over, it’s a pittance.
  23. Volder
    Volder 28 February 2021 22: 49
    -1
    Ukraine already has an almost finished hull of the unfinished corvette "Vladimir the Great". What is the problem with completing its construction by equipping it with Western equipment and weapons? And the problem is money and the scattered qualified personnel. The same fate befell the unfinished cruiser "Ukraine", which was in vain inherited from the USSR. The Ukrainian economy is in the stage of active de-industrialization. This process is taking place in accordance with the concept according to which Ukraine is moving towards the format of a post-industrial society. After that, it allegedly successfully integrates into the European Union. The European Union really wants to constantly subsidize the non-self-sufficient Ukraine. Funny, is not it?
    Independent "Neptune" shot: "miracle zbroya" was left without wheels and missiles - "heart attack" of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine (see video)
  24. Alexander Zima
    Alexander Zima 4 March 2021 11: 11
    0
    Three-ten .. this is not the scale .. they will be destroyed right in the base .. even from the coast. No one will even have time to start the motors.