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Lip castle and its terrible ghosts

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Bird's eye view of Lip Castle


May the angels of the Lord protect us! -
Blessed are you or accursed spirit
Covered by the sky or you breathe hellish,
Filled with evil or good intentions, -
Your image is so mysterious that I
I appeal to you: Hamlet, master,
Father, sovereign Dane, answer me!
Don't let me burn out in ignorance, tell me
Why are your buried bones
Tore apart their shroud; why the tomb,
In which you were peacefully reposed,
Opening your heavy marble grin,
Have you erupted again?
(Hamlet, Prince of Denmark. William Shakespeare. Translation 1933 by M. Lozinsky)

Stories about castles. After the publication of the material "Towers among the rocks»Quite a large number of VO readers approached me with a proposal to continue the theme of castle towers, only in Scotland and Ireland, where there are a lot of such tower castles. And - yes, indeed, the castles in these countries deserve to learn more about them. Here is at least the same Ireland, which in the Middle Ages, and even now, is called the "green island". That is why they say that there really is a lot of green grass growing there. But there are also a lot of medieval castles there, even more per unit area than in neighboring Great Britain. And as we all well know, in many castles - well, it happened so historically, for some reason ghosts are "found". And the castle with the short name Lip turned out to be the most, if I may say so, the castle rich in terrible ghosts in Ireland. About him, about his battle stories, as well as about what sometimes happens there, and our story will go ...


The gatekeeper's guard at the castle gates

On the foundation of a pagan temple ...


There are different versions of when and by whom this castle was originally built, but the most realistic date is 1250. That is, at this time it already existed, or they were just starting to build it. Although there are researchers who date its appearance to the XNUMXth or even the XNUMXth centuries. The land on which Leap was built belonged to the O'Bannon clan, and he himself was first called "O'Bannon's Leap" or simply "Leap". But the members of the O'Bannon clan, although they were rich enough to build a castle for themselves, were not the main lords, but were in vassal dependence on the stronger O'Carroll clan. It is believed that at the base of the castle there is a stone building dating back to the Iron Age, which served as its foundation. Naturally, today everyone is talking about the fact that it was an ancient pagan temple.

Lip castle and its terrible ghosts
Castle view

Castle battles


By its design, "Leap" is a real tower-house, to which later extensions were made. It was customary to build such castles both in Ireland and Scotland, and many of them have survived to this day, and we will talk about them in the following materials. It turned out, however, that the O'Bannon clan built it, and in the end it became a home for the O'Carroll clan. In 1513, the castle was attacked by the Earl of Kildare, who tried to capture it, but to no avail. The second time he attacked it in 1516 and managed to partially destroy it.


Gate to the castle

In 1558, the owners of the castle set it on fire and destroyed as best they could, just to prevent its capture by the troops of Queen Elizabeth. But a year later, the O'Carrolls rebuilt it. Then, already in the 1922th century, the castle was rebuilt, and then the Darby family settled in it. The Darbies expanded the castle and added a large structure to the north side of the tower house. But this castle was also not lucky: it was destroyed, but already in the twentieth century, in XNUMX, when a civil war was going on in Ireland.

There is no hate stronger than brotherly


In the Middle Ages, a fierce struggle for power between the brothers began in the family. According to feudal customs, the older brother was to inherit the castle, and the younger one was to become a priest, but he did not lose the right to property. And it so happened that when the priest brother was celebrating mass for the family members in the castle chapel, his rival brother rushed in there with a sword in his hand and mortally wounded him right at the altar. In memory of this terrible and godless deed, this place was named "Bloody Chapel". Well, it is clear that the ghost of the murdered person immediately began to appear in him.


Spiral staircase leading to the "Bloody Chapel"

From one owner to another ...


In 1659, the castle passed to the Darby family through marriage ties, among whose members were several famous British admirals. Mildred, the wife of one of the Darbies, wrote gothic novels. On their pages, she first told about this castle and about its ghosts, which aroused great interest in it from the public. The Darbies expanded the castle considerably, but to pay for the construction, they raised tenants' fees, and sold some of the land altogether. The peasants, of course, did not like this, so they burned this castle in 1922. The Darby family's total claims for the destroyed castle were £ 22, equivalent to approximately € 684,19 million in 1 prices. As a result, the claim was settled for a lower amount.

In 1974, the castle was bought by Australian historian Peter Bartlett, whose mother was née O'Bannon. He began extensive restoration work, but died in 1989. The castle was put up for auction again, and in 1991 it was bought by the musician Sean Ryan, who continued the restoration work, although things are going rather slowly, since the restoration of such a castle requires millions.


Typical gothic window

Spooky finds


While working on the reconstruction of the castle, workers in one of the halls of the lower floor found a mine, at the bottom of which sharp iron spikes were sticking out and ... there were many skeletons! It took as many as three carts to take out all the bones from there. It is believed that at least 150 people died in this pit. Obviously, there was an opening hatch in the floor here, similar to the one shown in the television series Death Archive, and that O'Carroll either threw his guests through it, who had already been killed, or simply invited them to stand in this place. after which they fell into this terrible pit and sat on the thorns. A pocket watch found among the bones, dating from the mid-1800s, suggests that the owners of the castle continued to use this pit until the very mid-XNUMXth century!


Here it is - this terrible pit!

Lip castle today


The first floor of the castle has today been almost completely restored, and you can see a beautiful medieval fireplace in it, although there is no carving on it. A steep spiral staircase leads from the first to the upper floor, where the famous "Bloody Chapel" is located. All the windows in the castle were made later, after the completion of its construction, but they are still fine examples of late Gothic architecture. The castle wings are also more recent, and the Ryan family lives in one of them. The north wing is abandoned and too dangerous to inspect, although it also has a beautiful fireplace. You can come to the castle, and for a small fee the owners will show it to you - this is a tradition that has survived in England to this day.


Mashiculi to throw stones on the heads of those standing at the entrance

What kind of ghosts appear in the castle?


There are surprisingly many ghosts in the castle, which, however, is not surprising, considering how many human souls were killed there. The first and most harmless ghost is the ghost of that same unfortunate priest who was stabbed to death by his own brother. He just appears in the corridors, passes through them ... and that's it. They also see light in the windows of the chapel at night, although electricity has not been supplied there even today.


Sometimes lights are on in the windows of the castle

There are two ghostly girls running around the castle and playing in the great hall. It is believed that in the XNUMXth century they fell from the castle wall and shattered, but their souls never found rest. The groans of the dying are constantly heard from the dungeon. Obviously those who were thrown into that terrible pit. True, today there is nothing in it, although the pit itself is perfectly preserved. The ghost of the Red Lady roams the halls with a dagger in hand. It seems that she was a prisoner of one of the O'Carrolls, gave birth to a child from him, and when the rapist killed her child, she stabbed herself with a dagger out of grief. Such is a typical medieval story, completely in the spirit of Walter Scott.

But the most mysterious and truly terrible ghost of the castle is, of course, the "elemental".

An eyewitness of the XNUMXth century told ...


In the XNUMXth century, there is a record from Mrs. Jonathan Darby about her encounter with a ghost called an "elemental." It looks like this:

“The creature was the size of a sheep, thin, emaciated and in places translucent. His face was human, or, to be more precise, inhuman, in its abomination, with large black holes instead of eyes, slobbering lips and thick saliva dripping from his jaws. He had no nose, only rotting cavities, his whole face was of a uniform gray tint. The coarse hair that covered his head, neck and body was the same color. Its front paws were thickly covered with the same hair as its hind legs, and when it sat on its hind legs, one arm or paw was raised, and a finger like a claw pointed in my direction. His shiny eyes looked incredibly dirty and oozed pus, and they looked me straight in the eyes, I could smell a terrible smell, which before offending my nostrils, only now it intensified a hundred times, rose right into my face, filling me with deadly nausea. I noticed that the lower half of the creature was kind of vague and at least seemed translucent, so I could see the frame of the door that led to the gallery through its body. "

A very accurate, even too accurate description, isn't it? And you have to stand in front of such a creature long enough to look out for all these details, or to encounter him quite often.


Part of the buildings of the castle is half destroyed


Many rooms of the castle have not been restored until now

Ireland's most visited castle?


Today ghost hunters are frequent visitors to this castle, including members of the Atlantic Society of the Paranormal (TAPS). In August 2014, the Travel Channel even aired the Ghost Adventures TV movie, filmed in this very castle. It said that it is "the most frequently visited castle in the world." But, most likely, this is the usual journalistic exaggeration of a purely advertising nature!
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 13 March 2021 04: 47
    +11
    amazing geometric accuracy, beautiful lines ... and not from industrial bricks, but from stone! knew how ... great story Vyacheslav. +
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 08: 01
      +7
      Although I must admit that I didn’t cope with my task of defending myself from neighbors and my peasants!
      This is how you need to get your tenants to burn you in the enlightened 1922 !!!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 08: 52
        +8
        Tenants have nothing to do with it. And this war was not civil.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 10: 04
          +4
          But the castle is all the same - they burned it down !!!
          True, later, in the course of litigation, a penalty was paid. Interesting and instructive hobby !!! Especially for those who live with the idea of ​​"take away everything and divide it equally" !!!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 10: 09
            +5
            But the castle is all the same - they burned it down !!!
            True, later, in the course of litigation, a penalty was paid. Interesting and instructive hobby !!!

            It all depends on the number of points in the insurance policy. laughing
      2. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 13 March 2021 10: 11
        +5
        "finally failed", probably, the Almighty was angry with them for their sins
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 13 March 2021 13: 02
          +7
          But the pit confused me. Not a hole, but a hole as in the photo looks, as they take doubts that 150 people got there and how it should have stink while they turned into skeletons there ... apparently this is like with ghosts, PR in order to attract tourists.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 13 March 2021 14: 40
            -4
            Quote: NIKNN
            But the pit confused me.

            Stop nitpicking. It's Shpakovsky! You must write - great article, Vyacheslav .... !!! laughing
            1. kalibr
              13 March 2021 15: 06
              +6
              And, Chukchi professional reader, welcome! I am glad for your comment and click. As the saying goes, the bird pecks by the grain, but it happens! As for the pit, the question is not for me. So in the history of the castle it is written ...
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 13 March 2021 15: 16
                -6
                Quote: kalibr
                Chukchi professional reader

                Fiction on VO is something beyond reason. I don't even want to comment. Ward № 6
                1. kalibr
                  13 March 2021 17: 04
                  +4
                  [quote = Krasnoyarsk]
                  All that you could have already done
                  Created a song like a groan
                  And spiritually rested forever
              2. NIKN
                NIKN 13 March 2021 15: 19
                +5
                Quote: kalibr
                As for the pit, the question is not for me.

                I have no complaints about you, my conclusion was
                Apparently it's like with ghosts, PR for the sake of attracting tourists.

                Mysticism is always attractive because it is not provable smile But when they try to manipulate something material, then this is how it turns out like with a pit. wink
                But with
                As the saying goes, the bird pecks by the grain, but it happens!
                sometimes it is said differently. "a chicken by the grain - the whole yard is in shit ..." laughing
          2. ycuce234-san
            ycuce234-san 14 March 2021 12: 44
            0
            There, the exhaust ventilation mine was separate, for sure. In the photo of the trap mine, you can see that there is a large basement where the trap leads. Perhaps, of the habits of owners that have survived from the Middle Ages, there is one more - this is sprinkling stone floors with straw. It is absolutely fresh everywhere.
      3. vladcub
        vladcub 13 March 2021 11: 51
        +7
        Namesake, I'm writing for the castle. To defend yourself you need a garrison, but what will the garrison be like in 1922? The remnants of the garrison, the owner threw on the thorns. Apparently, there was nothing to pay the salary
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 13 March 2021 04: 49
    +5
    The O'Carroll family hides so many bloody secrets, journalists dig and dig ... these are the Anglo-Saxons. And ghosts are just the fruit of human fears, who does not have a sense of fear does not see them.
    I thank the author for the excursion to the places of life of the medieval feudal lords of England.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 13 March 2021 05: 35
      +6
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      ... And ghosts are just the fruit of human fears

      can not be...!
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 13 March 2021 06: 20
        +4
        All my life I dreamed of seeing a ghost ... in what basements I didn’t climb ... except for mice, rats and screaming cats I saw nothing ... it happened to drunk homeless people and drug addicts, I came across, and ghosts of a Christmas tree wouldn’t climb out sticks. I hear something rustling in the corners, that's all ... sadness. hi
        1. kalibr
          13 March 2021 06: 51
          +9
          Ha! The same thing, but I have not seen it anywhere. Probably need to go to Ireland ...
          1. Richard
            Richard 13 March 2021 07: 13
            +11
            Interesting video addition to the author's text
            1. ee2100
              ee2100 13 March 2021 10: 22
              +3
              Dmitry, it becomes somehow uncomfortable for the author once again laughing His story is a retelling of a tourist brochure, and your "additions" are more informative, illustrative and more musical.
              Baz Vas it would be a boring story about foreign ruins.
              1. kalibr
                13 March 2021 10: 43
                +9
                Quote: ee2100
                Dmitry, it becomes somehow uncomfortable for the author once again His story is a retelling of a tourist brochure

                So, Alexander, this brochure had to be found, translated and edited, and rewritten with a high index of novelty. And without this story, there would be nothing for Richard to spread. So you should be happy about such a tandem. Besides, as an author, I cannot afford "musical" inclusions in the text. Even if I wanted to. But the commentator can do it.
                1. ee2100
                  ee2100 13 March 2021 10: 44
                  +2
                  I wrote about it! Glad to such a tandem
                2. Richard
                  Richard 13 March 2021 11: 21
                  +8
                  had it not been for this story, there would have been nothing for Richard to spread.

                  My grandfather and grandmother were not sighted, VOS gave them tape recorders for free. Therefore, at school discos I was with this "Dina" "the first guy in the village." The whole class recorded trendy music on it. I don’t remember how we got this song of the wonderful American actress, singer and composer Marion Ramsey "Lip Castle", but we played it with might and main at school dances. And they sincerely believed that this song is about .... the crusaders. If it weren't for today's article by Vyacheslav, I probably would still think so yes laughing
                  1. vladcub
                    vladcub 13 March 2021 15: 03
                    +7
                    "police academy" when it was shown for the first time it was bombing
              2. vladcub
                vladcub 13 March 2021 14: 15
                +8
                "there would be a boring story about foreign ruins" I would not say that: "a boring story." For me, the story is good, and Dmitry "Richard" ts "confirmed the authenticity." What good, someone suspicious, decides that V.O. is fantasizing. Defames the "good name" Oh Carroll
                1. ee2100
                  ee2100 13 March 2021 16: 23
                  0
                  Oh, Shpakovsky's lawyer!
                  1. vladcub
                    vladcub 13 March 2021 17: 02
                    +5
                    Generally V. Oh, to me: "not a friend and not a brother, but so" (c)
                    1. ee2100
                      ee2100 13 March 2021 18: 10
                      -1
                      I expressed my opinion about Dmitry's article and comments, if the latter was able to get so much information about the Lip castle in a fairly short period of time, it turns out that the "basic" information is incomplete at best, or, more simply, hack.
                      "Such people are not taken up even here
                      They don't sing about such "(c)
                      I agree.
                  2. Astra wild2
                    Astra wild2 13 March 2021 17: 09
                    +4
                    To be fair. Vyacheslav Olegovich is a very popular author and many on the site can: "fit" for him
                    1. ee2100
                      ee2100 13 March 2021 18: 04
                      +1
                      The author probably - yes, but probably no longer a historian.
                      Here I accidentally stumbled upon the description given to Shpakovsky's book "Armies of Ivan the Terrible" by the historian I. Babulin.
                      "If Shpakovsky, kind of like his own, has done such a disgrace in the army of Tsar Ivan that it is still a shame for the state, then what can I say about the authors (perhaps even) who do not speak Russian very well"
                      Book link https://ospreypublishing.com/armies-of-ivan-the-terrible-pb
                      1. vladcub
                        vladcub 13 March 2021 19: 45
                        +4
                        Tady to the barrier of his window !! Now it remains for the seconds to choose and appoint the day of the duel
                      2. ee2100
                        ee2100 13 March 2021 19: 53
                        0
                        Duel in meat grinders - every turn of the auger is fatal!
                      3. vladcub
                        vladcub 13 March 2021 20: 18
                        +3
                        The weapon was chosen. It remains to find the seconds.
                      4. ee2100
                        ee2100 13 March 2021 20: 42
                        0
                        There's a problem with them! am
                      5. vladcub
                        vladcub 13 March 2021 20: 48
                        +3
                        "maybe I'll burn out too?" (c).
                        Remember our childhood: "The Crown of the Russian Empire"?
                      6. ee2100
                        ee2100 13 March 2021 20: 54
                        +2
                        I remember. But I'm not a classic anymore like the answer
                        Is there a Finnish toilet for sale? "you will do it if you open your mouth wider"
                        Not in any way in your direction
            2. kalibr
              15 March 2021 18: 59
              -1
              Quote: ee2100
              historian I. Babulin.

              And who is he to criticize me? Not a doctor of sciences, not a professor ... I defended my candidate's thesis in 2013, and I in 1988 ... Topic: "The struggle for Ukraine in the hetmanship of I. Vyhovsky: the military events of 1658-1659." Editor of the magazine Voennoe delo. Well, I have been the editor of Tankomaster magazine for many years. So when he himself is published in Osprey, then we'll see. In the meantime, not authority ... His opinion is against my only and everything. And from you, Alexander, the arbiter is like a bullet from manure! You could take a book and read it yourself ... Or do we read with a dictionary at the level of the Soviet school?
            3. ee2100
              ee2100 16 March 2021 04: 59
              0
              Babulin Igor, who expressed his opinion about your book, is a historian specializing in the study of the period of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries, not only of Russia and its immediate environment, but also of Europe.
              I don't care what the topic of your dessert was and the fact that the topic of its dessert concerned Ukraine does not diminish its importance in any way.
              I posted his opinion.
              Comparing me with manure ("And from you, Alexander, the arbiter is like a bullet from manure!") You actually allowed me to speak about you and your articles in the appropriate form.
              Health!
            4. kalibr
              16 March 2021 18: 14
              -1
              Quote: ee2100
              You actually gave me permission to speak about you and your articles in an appropriate form.

              Yes, speak up, for God's sake, in any form, the main thing is that only more often ... The number of your comments matters, the content is not!
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 13 March 2021 10: 55
    +5
    Colleague Richard, thanks for your addition. Vyacheslav Olegovich even smoothed out some horror films
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 March 2021 08: 05
    +4
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich! Saturday morning worked!)
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 13 March 2021 09: 50
    +7
    Quote: kalibr
    Ha! The same thing, but I have not seen it anywhere. Probably need to go to Ireland ...

    And what about the specter of communism in Europe?
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 13 March 2021 14: 22
      +7
      And if he "looks" to you? Wayward ghosts
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 March 2021 14: 29
        +5
        I will offer him a compromise Chinese Option - oligarchic capitalism under the red flag with the dominant role of the Communist Party fellow
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 13 March 2021 15: 06
          +4
          Oh well. Let's see what he has to say, but first you can ask the comrades what they don't like V.O
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 21: 26
            +5
            Quote: vladcub
            Oh well. Let's see what he has to say, but first you can ask the comrades what they don't like V.O

            Hello namesake, I will be harsh - its not useful !!! The inability to write causes petty and quarrelsome envy. Which are prone to nonentities.
            Blindness, typical behavior and unfounded behavior are the main signs of a "couch hamster"!
            In every third article by Vyacheslav Olegovich, an "anti-popular" dictum of the Author is sought out. I conventionally call it “kick to the communist”. Where the "phrase" is torn out of the context and then attracted by the "ears" as Shpakovsky dared to offend the "gopher"!
            In every fifth - the technique remains the same, but they try to hang on the Author either a "religious" or "anti-Semitic" label! Contexts with "paganism" or "Old Believers" are especially smiling.
            In the rest of the works, a formal error (a slip of the tongue) is sought, if it is not there, then it is insolently invented. On kraynyak "hamsters" are trying to offend, humiliate members of the forum, who positively assessed the work of Vyacheslav. Then they “carry” nonsense picked up in the “trash heap” from TV or the yellow press. I am especially pleased with the pearls of Gavrila "you probably think 2 plus 2 is not four" !!! For example, five minutes later, as it sounded from the mouth of the presenter of the Final news on the Russia channel! Gee, but the realization that I have a different time zone and I heard this two hours earlier, alas, is not enough.
            And even cowardice - how much oil is poured out in the comments to articles by those in power on the site, even among the Reds, even among the white supporters. It’s scary to write otherwise, or maybe there’s a habit of sycophancy.
            Well, God be their judge!
    2. Free wind
      Free wind 13 March 2021 19: 08
      +4
      Eh, screwed up somewhere a ghost, the ghost of communism. hi
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 March 2021 20: 52
        +3
        In the DPRK - the handbag of the wife of the Tolstoy Leader of the Country = 4 annual salary of his thin subjects laughing
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 15 March 2021 11: 13
          +1
          In the DPRK - the handbag of the wife of the Tolstoy Leader of the Country = 4 annual salary of his thin subjects

          Loli loli loli bombs? wink drinks Hello Albert!
          In general, the topic of locks captivates me. hi Moreover, as far as I understand, Great Britain is the record holder in terms of quantity. Castles were built on every small island, where there was a feudal lord.
          I would be interested if such a phenomenon as St. Kilda's Island was ever covered. There were no castles. But this piece of land is the most remote of the Outer Hebrides. And for a long time there lived a relatively isolated group of the population, with its own peculiarities of language and architecture. Perhaps Alex "Boltorez" could help with links to proven literature. drinks
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 15 March 2021 11: 41
            +1
            Greetings, Nikolay! hi
            Well yes, something like that laughing
      2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 21: 28
        +4
        Quote: Free Wind
        Eh, screwed up somewhere a ghost, the ghost of communism. hi

        Tomorrow morning he will wake up on the branch and chop down cons for you !!! For the lack of worship to the "role of the party" !!!
        Regards, Vlad!
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 13 March 2021 21: 35
          +3
          Sorry, we have a forgiveness resurrection. I myself am a sympathizer. I'll get rid of it somehow. drinks
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  • BAI
    BAI 13 March 2021 21: 36
    +1
    Probably need to go to Ireland ..

    Why is it so far away?
    Habitats of ghosts in Russia:
    The building of the Office of State Protection of Cultural Heritage Objects, located on the street. Michurina, 6 in the center of Novosibirsk
    Spaso-Preobrazhensky Cathedral in Perm
    Mikhailovsky Palace in St. Petersburg
    and even
    Dormitory of the Astrakhan Cooperative College of Economics and Law in Astrakhan.
    Well, there are still a number of places.
    Although the main habitats of ghosts (according to photo reports) are the USA and England.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 13 March 2021 07: 33
    +7
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    All my life I dreamed of seeing a ghost ... in what basements I have not climbed ...

    gotta be lucky with a ghost
    if a ghost is without fear and does not believe in the existence of people, then you will not meet
  • Simargl
    Simargl 13 March 2021 07: 36
    +5
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    apart from mice, rats and screaming cats, I saw nothing ... happened to drunk homeless people and drug addicts, I stumbled across, and the ghosts of the Christmas tree do not crawl out sticks
    So they (ghosts) hide in rats, mice, homeless people and other outcasts ...
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 08: 07
    +7
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    All my life I dreamed of seeing a ghost ... in what basements I didn’t climb ... except for mice, rats and screaming cats I saw nothing ... it happened to drunk homeless people and drug addicts, I came across, and ghosts of a Christmas tree wouldn’t climb out sticks.

    Alexey get a cat! Well, forget to feed him in the morning the next day after your birthday, sorry for the tautology. Knowledgeable people say that in the morning comes a ghost in the form of a "cat-treadmill" or "cat-alarm clock" !!!
    Depending on the inclinations of your ohalnik !!!
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 13 March 2021 08: 25
      +6
      Already have, hi a very smart cat ... knows all my habits ... eyes like a person feels character in him, stares at me and a duel of personalities begins.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 10: 08
        +7
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Already have, hi a very smart cat ... knows all my habits ... eyes like a person feels character in him, stares at me and a duel of personalities begins.

        Mine acts more easily, demonstratively slaps to a plate, door or somewhere else and demonstratively indignates why I didn’t rush to put food in advance, open the door, etc.
        1. depressant
          depressant 13 March 2021 12: 28
          +11
          By the way, about the cats. It is believed that cats are capable of seeing ghosts. This conclusion is made from the fact that a cat can be very attentive for a long time, not paying attention to the hail, to consider something like that - something that is not visible to a person, and it scares. According to the latest findings, they are considering dust grains! )))
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 13: 19
            +5
            Quote: depressant
            By the way, about the cats. It is believed that cats are capable of seeing ghosts. This conclusion is made from the fact that a cat can be very attentive for a long time, not paying attention to the hail, to consider something like that - something that is not visible to a person, and it scares.

            I don’t know about the ghosts, but for the last three or four months, if someone in the family decided to vacuum the floor - exactly in the instant you go to the vacuum cleaner, our Sonya climbs on the back of the sofa away from the “shaitan-machine”! Tried not to hold on to the vacuum cleaner without the purpose of turning it on. Reactions are zero, as soon as intent arises - headlong flies into the bedroom on the sofa. As you can guess, we honestly do not know.
            Once I was able to react, but a friend called my daughter. As soon as the conversation began to round off, "the dream of a moth" slowly climbed higher on the back.
            1. depressant
              depressant 13 March 2021 13: 37
              +8
              Yes, I have read that cats, by the slightest changes in their faces, by subtle facial expressions, which a person is not able to recognize, but they recognize, they are able to read intentions, and even emotions - even more so!
              Why did I become interested in this topic at one time? Surprised that cats need toys. The real ones. I began to look at the video and found that they understand where the toy's head, face, muzzle are. It doesn't matter if it's a humanoid toy or an animal. They become attached to a toy, love it, already shabby, throughout their lives. They wait jealously nearby and get nervous when the owner or hostess repairs the toy. Get it out of the trash can if the toy is thrown away because it is worn. That is, there is an ability for deep emotional experience and empathy on the verge of guessing thoughts, incredible sensitivity!
              1. Alien From
                Alien From 13 March 2021 21: 04
                +3
                So it is) my 13 years old catches and brings the same toy mouse. And always at night laughing
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 15 March 2021 11: 32
                  +3
                  So it is) my 13 years old catches and brings the same toy mouse. And always at night

                  Mine had a faithful friend - an old wounded plush monkey. drinks So, in 2020 he had a fashion ... No one knows where the monkey disappeared all night. However, every morning, as we were dressing for work, and were already standing in the hallway, the cat took out his sweetheart from somewhere, defiantly brought it into the corridor, put it on the floor, and started shouting at her! Apparently, he expressed his displeasure - "rocked a macaque"! laughing
                2. Alien From
                  Alien From 15 March 2021 14: 11
                  +3
                  Believe it! They scream as if they themselves had hunted)))
          2. Alien From
            Alien From 13 March 2021 21: 01
            +3
            The cat and the vacuum cleaner are class enemies))))
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 13 March 2021 19: 33
          +5
          Good evening, Lyudmila. smile
          As a true Cat, on behalf of all cats, I declare that - yes! We see them! And here it is, the most luxurious ghost we have ever seen. wink

          1. depressant
            depressant 13 March 2021 19: 58
            +2
            Good evening, Constantine! )))
            This one is luxurious?!? Such a pitiful, tangled sympathy ... Have you ever seen others? More solid, respectable and even formidable, clashing with iron - not buckets, but armor and swords? wassat )))
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 13 March 2021 20: 30
              +3
              have you ever seen? More solid, respectable and even formidable, clashing with iron - not buckets, but armor and swords?


              But how! Kaneshna !!!


              And also a bunch of such funny guys.


              And this one in our garden constantly grazes, begs for a bottle. I don’t give it, because it’s not fig.
              1. depressant
                depressant 13 March 2021 20: 43
                +3
                Luxuriously!! The most it! What a wonderful species diversity of the ghostly world! And do you know who among them is missing? New variety "Eternal Addict". In my case, such a person lives outside the door opposite mine, and almost every evening and even in the middle of the night his loud otherworldly howl is heard, the whole meaning of which boils down to one thing - "Give me money, daddy, for narcotuuuuuuuu!"
                New time, new ghosts)))
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 13 March 2021 21: 35
                +3
                Eh, Lyudmila, you cannot understand the suffering of an addicted soul. laughing

                The creative work of a vast zamuldryn. wassat
                There is only one thing left:
              3. BAI
                BAI 13 March 2021 21: 39
                +3
                Yes, ghosts somehow look different.
          2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 21: 32
            +3
            Quote: depressant
            Good evening, Constantine! )))
            This one is luxurious?!? Such a pitiful, tangled sympathy ... Have you ever seen others? More solid, respectable and even formidable, clashing with iron - not buckets, but armor and swords? wassat )))

            Try to please a woman !!!
            As Carlson said about himself - "a man in the dawn of strength"!
            1. depressant
              depressant 13 March 2021 21: 43
              +1
              Exactly! I forgot about the "Carlson ordinary" variety! )))
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 13 March 2021 19: 43
        +5
        Quote: depressant
        By the way, about the cats. It is believed that cats are capable of seeing ghosts.

        Rather, they see a parallel reality .. as well as infants and toddlers up to 5-6 years old .. Well, before death, a person also opens this parallel reality .. More than once I heard from dying people that they see unusual phenomena ..
        1. depressant
          depressant 13 March 2021 20: 29
          +3
          If we conditionally assume that sleep is death, then the exit from sleep-death into reality, as well as the entrance into sleep-death - these are the so-called periods of waking sleep. Not always, but it is at such intermediate moments that unusual phenomena can be seen - I testify! )))
          Remember the sad landing of the bouncing Superjet 100? I took a nap in the evening, woke up an hour later and saw on the wall funny communication of red wire spiders, and in the morning - the news of the death of the plane and people. I then described in detail what I saw, and, it seems, on one of the topics of Vyacheslav Olegovich.
          Such unusual visions as harbingers of trouble, I attribute to the consequences of natural phenomena. For example, somewhere there is an earthquake, albeit a small one, and infrasound is walking all over the planet, and you know how it affects a person: uncontrollable fear, anticipation of trouble, inadequacy in decision-making, etc. Including illusions. I happened to see the movement, communication of two whole detachments of wire spiders and watch them for a long time))) This despite the fact that I am normal yes )))
          I admit that either the pilots or the equipment fell victim to nature. Something of her appearance became a trigger for trouble.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 14 March 2021 16: 45
            +1
            and I saw on the wall funny communication of red wire spiders

            Lyudmila Yakovlevna, what is it - red wire spiders - is this a species like that? The Superjet (also called the "Superbudget") allowed three "goats" due to the lack of experience in manual landing by the pilot. The second "goat" was already fatal. Aeroflot saves on pilot training.
            1. depressant
              depressant 14 March 2021 21: 34
              +2
              I will not argue about the superjet. I just wanted to say that in the period of time in which the superjet died, and this is about a day, some kind of unfavorable natural impact on the psyche of people was kept - it could lead to piloting errors. And the red "wire spiders" are just a hallucination that I have been able to see only once in my life. Not prone to mental disorders, on the basis of this hallucination, I drew a conclusion about the cause of the disaster - if I was persistent, it could have gotten to the pilots who were in suspense.
            2. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 14 March 2021 22: 50
              +2
              I have a link to the official report, it is big, boring and full of specific terminology. I have already brought him to VO to someone recently. In short - after takeoff, lightning hit the plane, knocking out some of the equipment. According to the instructions, the pilot had to land. But it had full tanks. In the good old days (until 2007), there was an opportunity to drain fuel on all GA planes, but now terribly concerned environmentalists have pushed through a law prohibiting this. (It seems that they wanted to extend this law to military aviation, but were sent far away). So there is no such tap on any modern civil aircraft. Ideally (in violation of the instructions) there was an option to spin somewhere nearby until the fuel was consumed, but the pilot did not go to violate the instructions. The pilot was experienced, but he flew a lot on the Il-76, and not on the Superbudget, manual control skills were not at all needed. During the landing approach, I exceeded the vertical speed, skozlili, after that there was a go-around option, but it did not grow together. With the second goat, the overload was more than 5, the landing gear struts normally broke and went back without piercing the wings, but it bounced off and the third time just fell onto a concrete strip on its belly. All. I also met with the foresight of dangerous situations, only without insects.
            3. depressant
              depressant 14 March 2021 23: 19
              +2
              How many times then did I look at the picture of the jumps of this ill-fated plane! The Military Review, I remember, was in full swing. And, amazingly, there were several more incidents with the superjets after this accident. The people said: instead of superjets, it was necessary to make the MS-21.
            4. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 14 March 2021 23: 38
              +1
              The people said: instead of superjets, it was necessary to make the MS-21.

              It was necessary to make a Tu-334, which Poghosyan trampled on. And Tu was fully certified. But the personal ambitions of this unsinkable (now he is the rector of the Moscow Aviation Institute) ditched the plane, which is compatible by design with the Tu-204 and Tu-214. The MC-21 was still far away.
            5. depressant
              depressant 15 March 2021 01: 14
              +2
              Yes, here, recently a message flashed, they say, they thought that it would be nice to start producing Tu-334. You know, it always touches me: they thought that something should be discussed, a meeting should be convened, an opportunity is planned to be explored - a lot of other things. Either to discuss where to build a new gas processing plant, then the Transsib should be expanded, then the Tu-334 - it would be necessary, everything should be, but beyond the meetings, at which, apparently, they discuss how to cut the budget, exchange kickbacks and export the mined abroad, it looks like nothing is being done and will not be done. And everything planned magically refers to either 2030 or even further. Both the padishah and the donkey will both die. And only the ghosts of an unrealizable future are more alive than all living things.
  • BAI
    BAI 13 March 2021 21: 42
    +3
    It is believed that cats are capable of seeing ghosts.

    I don't know how about ghosts, but the fact that my black cat sees the brownie is for sure.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 13 March 2021 13: 58
    +7
    From the look of my cat I wake up at 4-5 in the morning) sits and looks, let's eat)))
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 21: 36
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      From the look of my cat I wake up at 4-5 in the morning) sits and looks, let's eat)))

      The right cat! laughing

      The host is on schedule for the second dinner, and you are about to sleep. Disorder!
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 13 March 2021 17: 08
    +3
    Ghosts (as well as gobies, brownies and mermaids) have not been found in our country since the time we got rid of ergot in the crops. If you are specifically interested in faeries and other Celtic evil spirits ... then, obviously, you need to take ... Irish whiskey in industrial quantities :)))
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 21: 39
      +1
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      Ghosts (as well as gobies, brownies and mermaids) have not been found in our country since the time we got rid of ergot in the crops. If you are specifically interested in faeries and other Celtic evil spirits ... then, obviously, you need to take ... Irish whiskey in industrial quantities :)))

      Traditionally, we drink to the green devils, occasionally to the squirrels. Both are mostly vodka, but sometimes everyone that burns can do it!
    2. BAI
      BAI 13 March 2021 21: 43
      +3
      We have no ghosts (as well as gobies, brownies and mermaids) since those times.

      Brownies are found. An old country house is needed.
      1. depressant
        depressant 14 March 2021 07: 02
        +4
        And not only the old one, and not only the village, and not only the house. The ruins of a factory, a factory, the skeletons of five-story buildings, cities made up of them, and even a whole country, ideals scattered into fragments, will do.

        Everything in this raging world is ghostly,
        There is only a moment for him and hold on,
        There is only a moment between past and future
        It is called life.

        Eternal peace is unlikely to please the heart,
        Eternal rest for the gray pyramids,
        And for the star that fell and falls,
        There is only a blinding moment!

        Let this moment fly into the distance through the centuries,
        But not always on the way to me with him.
        What do I value what I risk in the world?
        In one moment, only in one moment!

        Happiness is given to meet il misfortune still,
        There is only a moment for him and hold on,
        There is only a moment between past and future
        It is he who is called life ...
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 14 March 2021 16: 51
          +2
          The ruins of a factory, a factory, the skeletons of five-story buildings, cities made up of them, and even an entire country, ideals scattered into fragments, will do.

          Every working day I go to work past some of our buildings and experimental installations - and so they stand for 30 years in a secure protected area. But nonferrous metals regularly disappeared from the territory in the 90s, but now it also sometimes happens. Not otherwise, the ghosts are trying.
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 14 March 2021 20: 02
            +2
            Was in your organization on Thursday. I believe.
            However, who will not be called by Lice of physics as a result of experiments.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 14 March 2021 20: 33
              +2
              You probably did not go further than the front engineering building, but we have absolutely bearish corners there - almost 1 square meter. km. territory. The territory of the LII is larger, but a squadron of the Ministry of Emergency Situations climbed into it long ago, and the airport was organized, it's good that it was recently bought out from some Lithuanian. However, I don’t know who bought it.
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 14 March 2021 20: 46
                +2
                From the side of Streshnevo. I didn't climb properly. But I feel that there is where to turn around. What is there in Moscow.
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 14 March 2021 20: 53
                  +2
                  Then we were not. I find myself in Zhukovsky, and part-time in MAI.
                2. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 15 March 2021 03: 43
                  0
                  Well - misinterpreted. With a lack of information. Bustler.
        2. depressant
          depressant 14 March 2021 21: 40
          +3
          Probably, the ghost of the head of the transport department is trying to take out the ghosts of the equipment)))
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 14 March 2021 22: 28
            +2
            No, we have a garage off-site. And only ferrous metal remains from the equipment - it is cheap, and non-ferrous metal is expensive, therefore its mobility is like that of an electron gas in metals.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 March 2021 05: 53
    +9
    Rather Irish feudal lords, not English. And my neighbor saw the devil and an alien laughing ... True, before that he had been drinking for half a year, without waking up. So fears and imaginations have nothing to do with it, look at ren-tv, there Prokopenko has been broadcasting about this for 5 years. wassat
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 13 March 2021 06: 26
      +5
      Prokopenko is something !!! For a couple of Anna Chapman, they tell such stories you will hear. smile After their transmissions in my minds aliens, devils, spirits, vampires, underground creatures and other living creatures from beyond the grave rush relentlessly ... they do not allow me to sleep peacefully.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 07: 27
        +6
        Any house, unlike an apartment, has its own life. In the first case, you can't blame the neighbors for creaking, crackling and tagging on. Although once we had a cat as a ghost. I decided to check the copper pipes of the doorbell gong at the cocotok. Now we know what the Jericho trumpets are!
        Sincerely, thank you for the article!
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 13 March 2021 08: 57
          +6
          Any house, unlike an apartment, lives its own life
          Well, how to say ... In St. Petersburg, when buying an apartment in the "old fund", they are traditionally interested in the history of the apartment. In my professional activity I have come across negative manifestations of such "biographies" of architecture. True, purely material.
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 09: 57
            +5
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Any house, unlike an apartment, lives its own life
            Well, how to say ... In St. Petersburg, when buying an apartment in the "old fund", they are traditionally interested in the history of the apartment. In my professional activity I have come across negative manifestations of such "biographies" of architecture. True, purely material.

            Uh-huh and waved!
            Grandmother, a native of Leningrad, told stories about ghosts to her grandchildren on bright St. Petersburg evenings. Like a white balcony of the late Jew Aristarchus from the third floor gnaws at the boots of the residents of the second front door at night. Or as a ghost-cat from a parebrik howls at night on the full moon and "dirty" in slippers to naughty grandchildren !!!
            No offense, to the people of St. Petersburg - I flirt, taking bread from Anton !!!
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 13 March 2021 10: 13
              +5
              Our "answer" to the Urals.
              How can I, "siroma" crying I'm just Bazhin, not Bazhov request tongue
              1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 10: 25
                +4
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                Our "answer" to the Urals.
                How can I, "siroma" crying I'm just Bazhin, not Bazhov request tongue

                My friend, and if hypothetically! Having succumbed to our provocations, you are writing a series of stories about the ghosts of the Third Capital. Over time, they become classics and are introduced into the school curriculum. And five years later, the classic poor student Vasechkin, at the blackboard, “hums” about Bazhin's runner or Bazhev's ghosts of Northern Palmyra !!! laughing
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 13 March 2021 10: 50
                  +5
                  Yeah, about how the Bronze Horseman saves the ghost of Princess Tarakanova from drowning. And so every flood, two hundred years in a row! wassat
                  Until the dam was built ... request
                  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 13: 11
                    +3
                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    Yeah, about how the Bronze Horseman saves the ghost of Princess Tarakanova from drowning. And so every flood, two hundred years in a row!
                    Until the dam was built ...

                    By the way, one of the legends. The monument is bronze !!!
              2. Korsar4
                Korsar4 13 March 2021 12: 58
                +4
                The main thing with the Mistresses of the Copper Mountain is not to meet again.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 22
                  +4
                  Especially the Bronze Horseman.
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 13 March 2021 14: 34
                    +3
                    Uh-huh. Otherwise malachite will be remembered in the Hermitage.
          2. vladcub
            vladcub 13 March 2021 16: 00
            +5
            In the villages, if the old-timers are asked: who lived in this or that place, it will also be interesting. For example, with a plot. where my house stood (I haven't lived there for forty years) dark stories are connected. More precisely, with those who lived there.
            1) the first there, after the GV, lived a kulak, engaged in banditry. I was 7 years old, when in the garden, they found a sawn-off shotgun (short barrel with a rusty bolt). In the pre-war time and during the war, there lived a senior policeman. They said he killed someone in his yard
            In the postwar years - chairman of the district committee, member of the district committee bureau. In order not to get divorced, it could be reflected in his career, he strangled his wife. The place is somehow bewitched.
            Recently I was in my small homeland, there are already all strangers. It looks like I'm the last one who can tell about those who lived in that place.
          3. vladcub
            vladcub 13 March 2021 20: 22
            +3
            For realtors to take note
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 13 March 2021 09: 42
          +6
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          Any house, unlike an apartment, lives its own life. In the first case, you can't blame the neighbors for creaking, crackling and tagging on.

          hi
          at home, I will say this, a more vivid and pronounced individual character.

          My more than 130-year-old house emits sighs, crackles and creaks, but these are not ghosts: in this way it reacts sensitively to earthquakes, even imperceptible to us.

          And it shakes with us, almost every day ...
          1. depressant
            depressant 14 March 2021 22: 18
            +2
            My more than 130 year old home emits sighs, crackles and creaks, but these are not ghosts ...


            Shadows wander around the house
            Different fabulous animals
            Disappear and reappear.
            Barely audible knocking on my door.

            I went to the window, peered into the darkness,
            I rubbed the glass and smiled
            And indeed
            I saw everything I imagined:

            Shadows wander around the house
            Different fabulous animals
            Disappear and reappear
            Barely audible knocking on my door ...

            The punk group "The King and the Fool", the song "Shadows Wander".
            This is how it happens: nondescript verses, combined with an ingenious melody, give a full feeling of ghostly night magic.
            Just type in Yandex and listen as a fragment of a Russian opera.
            1. depressant
              depressant 14 March 2021 22: 34
              +1
              And more:
              I tried to say:
              "There are no monsters on Earth"
              But then there was
              A terrible voice in the darkness
              A voice in the darkness ...

              “It hurts me to see the white light,
              I'm better off in total darkness
              I have been for many, many years
              I only dream about food.
              I'm too tightly locked up
              And I dream about one thing:
              Hurry to find freedom
              Gnaw through your ramshackle old house
              Damn old house! "

              And this is again "The King and the Fool", the song "The Damned Old House".
              Oh, what the chorus sounds like!
      2. vladcub
        vladcub 13 March 2021 14: 34
        +3
        Lech, friendly advice: put a "bolt" on Prokopenko, or even "Ivashka Khmelnitsky" squirrels can be seen
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 13 March 2021 08: 34
    +6
    in the places of life of medieval feudal lords of England.
    What, nafig, medieval English feudal lords in Central Ireland ??? wassat
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 13 March 2021 10: 34
    +3
    "Oh family, Carroll hides so many secrets" I foresee the question of my friends: there must be some family legends about the "pit of death". As the curse of the "Baskerville family", they knew and told.
    "Marinkino curse" of the Romanovs, and in the Pushkin family there was also a crime. Pushkin's grandfather, out of jealousy, hanged the French tutor. They knew about it
  • Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 11: 54
    +4
    such are the Anglo-Saxons
    They are native Irish, actually.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 13 March 2021 19: 13
      +3
      Descendants of the Celts. hi
      1. Igool
        Igool 14 March 2021 17: 31
        +1
        And their Gaelic language is fundamentally different from English. It has more similarities with the Scottish helix
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 14 March 2021 17: 50
          -1
          Gaelic is the language of the Welsh, Scots and Irish (as well as Bretons). They have differences, but they are languages ​​that evolved from the proto-Celtic. And yes, they are all different from English.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 13 March 2021 05: 42
    +6
    I liked the purchase of the castle by the historian.
    Correctly. Every serious historian buys a castle exclusively from royalties. And it is clear how successful he is. True, it will have to be kept further.

    And then only movie stars and movie stars with islands on the hearing.
    1. kalibr
      13 March 2021 06: 57
      +7
      Quote: Korsar4
      And then only movie stars and movie stars with islands on the hearing.

      Females funny, Sergey, that now you can buy a house "there" and even a castle for only 1 euro! True, it is necessary to sign a commitment to live there, make repairs, and "include it in the infrastructure." And the places are beautiful. Italy, Spain ... And I personally can afford it, and even make initial repairs. But ... a major overhaul (and without it there is nothing!) -Ha-ha-it's only for movie stars. So my house in Spain was covered with a copper basin. You can buy a fairly new house, in the same Cape Verde, a village near the Palafols castle, 5 km from Malgrad de Mar. And only 30 thousand euros. But something didn't want ...
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 13 March 2021 06: 59
        +5
        But you can dream. Pick up.
        How Gavrik was aiming with a rifle.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 13 March 2021 08: 39
          +5
          Gavrik was clearly aiming with a distant view of the future.
      2. Richard
        Richard 13 March 2021 07: 07
        +8
        In the XNUMXth century, there is a record from Mrs. Jonathan Darby about her encounter with a ghost called an "elemental"

        Good morning, dear author hi
        In the XNUMXth century, there is a record from Mrs. Jonathan Darby about her encounter with a ghost called an "elemental"

        The father of ghostology, Jacques Derrida, put forward three assumptions regarding the Lipan "elemental":
        1. The elemental preserves the ancient, sacred area for the druids, on which the Lip castle was built.
        2. Elemental is the spirit of one of the members of the O'Carroll family, who died in the castle from leprosy.
        3. This spirit was awakened during the cleansing of the dungeon of human remains.
        1. kalibr
          13 March 2021 07: 12
          +6
          How awful in all three cases!
        2. Free wind
          Free wind 13 March 2021 07: 59
          +5
          So the lepers, not only in castles, but also in the villages were not kept, they were identified in the leper colony. Some were released from the leper colony, but they were given clothes with a hood that covered their disfigured face, and a bell to warn everyone about their approach. In Russia, there is an operating leper colony in Astrakhan.
          1. Richard
            Richard 13 March 2021 08: 20
            +6
            lepers, not only in castles, but also in villages were not kept, they were identified in a leper colony.

            And Baldwin IV is king of Jerusalem, and Henry VII is Hohenstaufen, king of Germany, and Robert the Bruce? What do you think they kept in the leper colony?
            Nothing like this. Lived in castles and ruled over their subjects despite illness
            a photoThe remains of Henry VII, afflicted with leprosy.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 13 March 2021 09: 28
              +4
              Dmitry! hi
              This is about high-ranking personalities. And so, in Europe at the beginning of the XIV century, there were about 20 thousand leper colony.
              1. Richard
                Richard 13 March 2021 10: 08
                +1
                There is not a single written evidence of that time, from the fact that feudal lords and owners of castles who were sick with leprosy were kept in a leper colony. They lived an ordinary life in their possessions and even fought and went on crusades, remember at least the knightly Order of Saint Lazarus
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 13 March 2021 10: 22
                  +2
                  1. There are no written documents to confirm your thesis either?
                  2. Remember which of the baronial children was prepared for the spiritual path.
                  1. Richard
                    Richard 13 March 2021 10: 27
                    +1
                    I don’t remember, Anton. I just do not know
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 13 March 2021 10: 44
                      +5
                      For the younger baronial sons, a spiritual career was practically the only form of “social“ lift. ”There were, of course, exceptions, but I think that the assignment to a leper colony, the fourth son of a small-scale feudal lord, infected with leprosy, was the best solution for everyone around.
        3. Hantengri
          Hantengri 13 March 2021 10: 15
          +4
          Quote: Richard
          The father of ghostology, Jacques Derrida, put forward three assumptions regarding the Lipan "elemental":
          1. The elemental preserves the ancient, sacred area for the druids, on which the Lip castle was built.
          2. Elemental is the spirit of one of the members of the O'Carroll family, who died in the castle from leprosy.
          3. This spirit was awakened during the cleansing of the dungeon of human remains.

          In any case, it is very strange to call this undead an elemental. In classical occultism, elementals are the spirits of the elements: water, fire, earth, air and ether.
          Lipsky's "elemental", judging by the description, is more like either the ghost of a castle toilet, or the spirit of a sick female imagination.
          1. Mihaylov
            Mihaylov 13 March 2021 12: 27
            +5
            Quote: HanTengri
            In any case, it is very strange to call this undead an elemental.

            I agree, because an elemental is a delicious cheese .. wassat
            1. Richard
              Richard 13 March 2021 13: 02
              +5
              Lech from Android:All my life I dreamed of seeing a ghost ..

              It can be seen no longer fate No. Colleague Mihaylov first found it and ... ate it laughing
          2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 21: 44
            +2
            Quote: HanTengri
            Lipsky's "elemental", judging by the description, is more like either the ghost of a castle toilet


            Either the lapdog fell into the outhouse and died, or someone fulfilled his natural needs and the dog drowned !!!
            1. Hantengri
              Hantengri 13 March 2021 22: 37
              +3
              Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Quote: HanTengri
              Lipsky's "elemental", judging by the description, is more like either the ghost of a castle toilet


              Either the lapdog fell into the outhouse and died, or someone fulfilled his natural needs and the dog drowned !!!

              Summing up our "scientific" research, it should be noted that the "elemental" described by the impressionable madama is not an elemental at all, but a still undefined etymology of a fecaloid,

              or, otherwise - depmodemon. )))
      3. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 08: 41
        +4
        And only 30 thousand euros.
        Today, they say, the price has dropped a lot.
        1. Mihaylov
          Mihaylov 13 March 2021 12: 36
          +1
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          And only 30 thousand euros.
          Today, they say, the price has dropped a lot.

          Good afternoon Anton, the other day we were discussing real estate in Finland, which is far from uncommon in St. Petersburg.
          They say the Finns have significantly raised taxes, because of the covid, they are not allowed in, the rate is 90 rubles.
          Looks like a big sale is coming! drinks
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 19
            +1
            Our primary market is also stagnating, only sales are not our method.
            Sergei! hi
            1. Mihaylov
              Mihaylov 13 March 2021 14: 33
              +4
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Our primary market is also stagnating, only sales are not our method.

              A sale in Russian is generally a very interesting thing: you raise the price by 50-100 percent and make a discount, say, from 40 to 80%, and you get a sale price higher than the usual selling price!
              I once wanted to buy a couple of things on "Black Friday" and was surprised to see that their price with a discount of 80% is higher than the usual one without any sales! hi
      4. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 10: 40
        +2
        you can buy a house "there" and even a castle for only 1 euro!
        Only if you have a residence permit or other right (EU citizenship) to reside there permanently. Otherwise, you have to fork out for the full amount.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 13 March 2021 07: 37
      +8
      Quote: Korsar4
      Every serious historian buys a castle exclusively from royalties.

      Ph.D. - at least a seedy castle tower
      Doctor of History - swung at the doctor? shell out for a full-fledged baronial castle with services
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 13 March 2021 13: 00
        +4
        Yes. A knight without a castle is nonsense. And how are professors and associate professors worse?
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 13 March 2021 13: 02
          +4
          Quote: Korsar4
          A knight without a castle is nonsense

          let me give you a little clarification
          a knight without a sword and a horse is nonsense.
          and without a castle there were plenty of these d'Artagnans
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 13 March 2021 13: 48
            +4
            Knights for different eras.
            Sir Anthony Hopkins is hardly obliged to present a horse.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 13 March 2021 13: 53
              +2
              Quote: Korsar4
              Sir Anthony Hopkins is hardly obliged to present a horse.

              Bravo!
              although in fairness the late Sir Sean Connery rode very thoroughbred horses in the guise of 007.
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 13 March 2021 13: 57
                +2
                I thought, after the remarks, about the share of the nobility relative to the entire population. As time goes by, the ratio has changed.
    3. Mihaylov
      Mihaylov 13 March 2021 12: 24
      +7
      Quote: Korsar4
      I liked the purchase of the castle by the historian.
      Correctly. Every serious historian buys a castle exclusively from royalties.

      One friend has a friend, an English historian, he bought upon retirement, though not a castle, but a 16th century house. And papers are attached to the house - all the deeds of sale in the entire history of the house, including the papers of the 16th century, too, as they do. hi
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 13 March 2021 13: 02
        +4
        Reading The Forsyte Saga. And you try on yourself.

        Or from childhood: "The home of the piglet must be a fortress!" (from).
  • Van 16
    Van 16 13 March 2021 06: 04
    +5
    Very interesting story!
    "Ahalo, hooted, groaned in the house" (c)
  • Richard
    Richard 13 March 2021 06: 56
    +9
    While working on the reconstruction of the castle, workers in one of the halls of the lower floor found a mine with sharp iron spikes at the bottom and ... there were many skeletons! It took as many as three carts to remove all the bones from there. It is believed that at least 150 people died in this pit. Obviously, there was an opening hatch in the floor here, similar to the one shown in the television series Death Archive, and that O'Carroll either threw his guests through it, who had already been killed, or simply invited them to stand in this place. after which they fell into this terrible pit and sat on the thorns.

    Legends have been preserved according to which the O'Carroll clan often resorted to the services of mercenaries to resolve their conflicts with other clans. After successfully completing the assignment, the performers were invited to the festive feasts. The unsuspecting victims drank and enjoyed themselves with everyone. Then they poured poison into the wine or cut their throats, and the bodies were thrown into the dungeon. Mercenaries were often killed while sleeping.
    \ Historians believe that 39 people from the O'Neill clan and part of the McMahon clan were killed in this way.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 07: 17
      +5
      A hospitable family!
      Good morning everyone, thank you Vyacheslav Olegovich for the new continuation of the old cycle!
      1. Richard
        Richard 13 March 2021 07: 27
        +5
        Lip Castle Dungeon
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 13 March 2021 07: 12
    +9
    Mashiculi to throw stones on the heads of those standing at the entrance
    Precisely to throw stones and not something else? And it looks more like a toilet. laughing And this structure is not located above the entrance.
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 13 March 2021 07: 21
      0
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Mashiculi to throw stones on the heads of those standing at the entrance
      Precisely to throw stones and not something else? And it looks more like a toilet. laughing And this structure is not located above the entrance.

      No offense, citizen ... Don't be smart, otherwise you will have more minuses than me ....... laughing good hi
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 13 March 2021 07: 42
        +6
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        Don't be smart, otherwise you will have more minuses than me

        And in fact, take a look at where this attachment is located, and think, you don't even have to be clever.
    2. kalibr
      13 March 2021 07: 36
      +5
      The holes in the toilet would be round. By the way, who knows ... It was necessary to look from both sides. And I had no such opportunity, as you yourself understand.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 13 March 2021 07: 53
        +5
        Quote: kalibr
        The holes in the toilet would be round

        It doesn't matter what the shape of the hole is, because the extension is not located above any entrance and in the sense of "throwing stones on the heads of those standing at the entrance" is useless. But as a toilet it is.
      2. Richard
        Richard 13 March 2021 08: 43
        +7
        toilet holes would be round. But who knows ...

        There is a rational grain in Vladimir's assumption. The holes were naturally round, and the drain hole of any arbitrary shape - the main thing is that the arrow does not fly from below)))
        a photo.Toilets in medieval castles




        1. Richard
          Richard 13 March 2021 08: 47
          +6
          In later medieval castles, the toilet system was improved to be safer from being hit from below.



        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 13 March 2021 09: 52
          +2

          Meanwhile, the photo shows an element of a full-fledged sewer system. It would be interesting to know the belonging to the architectural structure.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 13 March 2021 16: 20
            +4
            It would be interesting to know the belonging to the architectural structure.
            Somewhere I came across information that this toilet is a Roman toilet in the Fishbourne Roman Palace.
            It seems to be true, since the device is typical for ancient Roman toilets.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 13 March 2021 16: 25
              +2
              You, Viktor Nikolaevich, once about 3 years ago brought photos of a toilet from the Templar castle, on some Greek island, wrested by the crusaders from Byzantium ...
              1. Undecim
                Undecim 13 March 2021 16: 47
                +3
                Anton, I don't remember. The Templars wrested Rhodes from Byzantium. There is the Palace of the Grand Master of the Knights of Rhodes. Maybe from there. We must search the archives.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 13 March 2021 16: 57
                  +2
                  Definitely not Rhodes. It doesn't matter, then I'll rummage in the comments, I'll find it.
                  And, the Palace of the Grand Master of the Knights of Rhodes are the Hospitallers.
                  1. Undecim
                    Undecim 13 March 2021 17: 09
                    +3
                    Definitely not Rhodes
                    Then Cyprus. There are several Templar castles.
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 13 March 2021 17: 16
                      +2
                      There is one more introduction. The castle belonged to the Order for only 30 years, after which it was partially destroyed by an earthquake and was abandoned by the templars.
                      1. Undecim
                        Undecim 13 March 2021 17: 43
                        +3
                        Saranda Kolones Castle in Cyprus fits this description.
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 17: 51
                        +2
                        Yes, most likely it is him.
          2. Liam
            Liam 13 March 2021 17: 37
            +3
            Quote: Undecim
            Fishbourne Roman Palace.

            Photo taken in 2007 in
            Römische Villa Haselburg im Odenwald, Hessen. Badehaus - Latrine mit Wasserspülung

            https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haselburg_Bad_6.jpg#
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 13 March 2021 17: 47
              +4
              Yeah, it means that this is an ancient Roman toilet, I assumed correctly.
              1. Liam
                Liam 13 March 2021 18: 02
                +2
                Quote: Undecim
                correctly

                Roman latrines are as recognizable as Roman aqueducts, the style can't be drunk) what
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 March 2021 09: 56
        +6
        There is no more beauty than to poop from a height ..
  • Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 14 March 2021 01: 50
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Mashiculi to throw stones on the heads of those standing at the entrance
    Precisely to throw stones and not something else? And it looks more like a toilet. laughing And this structure is not located above the entrance.

    shit 99% fellowbut ... functional. yes
  • Richard
    Richard 13 March 2021 07: 42
    +6
    There is even a famous song about this castle.
    Marion Ramsey - "Castle Leap".

    The most interesting thing is that this song concisely tells the history of this Castle))
    1. depressant
      depressant 13 March 2021 09: 04
      +6
      The origin of the "Elemental" ghost.

      The most famous ghost of the castle is "Elemental", or in everyday life just "It". It is believed that once upon a time, druids summoned a spirit to protect a sacred place that was used for druidic rites and mysteries. According to another version, the invaders, led by Gerald Fitzgerald, King of Kildar, called on the spirit of nature to destroy the castle from the inside. Many believed that Gerald was a powerful sorcerer who never missed an opportunity to try to capture the fortress. However, something still protected the building from ill-wishers. There is also a version that the ghost is someone from the O'Caroll clan himself, who died within the castle walls from leprosy. In general, there are many legends, but only one ghost.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 March 2021 15: 02
      +2
      Quote: Richard
      Marion ramsey

      Isn't that the one with the squeaky voice from the Police Academy?
      1. Richard
        Richard 13 March 2021 16: 03
        +2
        Yes she.
        And the popular composer and performer of the cult American singles Supernatural Thing, This Time I'll Be Sweeter, Satan's Daughter [and the composer is also her. And most of the hits for Tina Turner, along with Patrick Grant, were written by her. Damn it, music from Cyberpunk 2077 from Need for Speed: Underground 1, 2 from The Witcher from Undertale from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas from Bully from games "Hotline Miami" from the game "Brawl stars", Music from the game "Mafia / Mafia" from the game "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim"? from the game "Death Stranding" from the game "NieR" - this is the same - Marion Ramsey.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 March 2021 16: 07
          +4
          Quote: Richard
          Supernatural Thing, This Time I'll Be Sweeter, Satan's Daughter [and the composer is also her. And most of the hits for Tina Turner, along with Patrick Grant, were written by her.

          Did not know. It turns out that she was a talented lady.
          1. Richard
            Richard 13 March 2021 16: 11
            +2
            She died on January 7, 2021 in Los Angeles after a short illness.
  • Richard
    Richard 13 March 2021 07: 46
    +6
    Thanks to the author for the, as always interesting, Saturday reading. Swallowed in one breath good
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 March 2021 08: 02
    +9
    The walls are twined with hops, it is considered one of the best in the world, well, the Irish beer "Guinness" is well known to everyone, alas, I have not tried it.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 10: 49
      +5
      the sort of Irish beer "Guinness" is well known to everyone, alas, I have not tried it.
      It's hard to drink more than three pints laughing Very loving beer. By the way, it is brewed under license in Nigeria, where the recipe was slightly changed - made stronger. And the famous thick foam consists of nitrogen bubbles.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 10: 56
        +7
        Nothing! In Russia, and the Belgian "Fax" "with a bang" comes in a much larger volume. wassat
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 11: 02
          +5
          Faxe kind of Danish? request Do not drink vodka / whiskey with Guinness - the Bakhchisarai fountain is guaranteed wassat !
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 11: 07
            +6
            Maybe Danish ...
            And to get a real "Guinness" with vodka, I don't earn so much!
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 11: 12
              +3
              And how much does it cost in Russia? In England, as common as beer for the price.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 13 March 2021 11: 19
                +6
                I do not even know. What is sold everywhere in our country, is produced here under a license. It tastes like "Baltika 6", compared to what they brought me from Dublin - two big differences.
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 11: 26
                  +4
                  "Baltika-6" in London was on sale for some time - it did not take off. Not even by English standards. Marketing account - I had to sell the nine laughing Polish brands of fortified beer have gone very well, and this product is not new in England either - barley wine, beer with a strength of 10-12% was produced and drunk here before (up to the 80s). Now it (rare muck) is no longer so popular among the British. this is for a certain category of "connoisseurs" of the drink
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 13 March 2021 11: 34
                    +5
                    Marketing account - I had to sell the nine
                    In St. Petersburg, the "nine" was called "Baltika Ruff". But, again, a marketing failure, followed by "Strong Hunt" bottled in plastic, 1,5 liters each, which occupied a kind of niche in the market.
                    1. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 11: 45
                      +2
                      which has occupied a kind of niche in the market.
                      These drinks have their own loyal consumer group yes By the way, strong Polish beer in London is very much appreciated by Negroes. And since we are talking about BLM, here is their hangover treatment technology (Jamaican)
                      1. Raw egg
                      2. A bottle of Guinness
                      3.Half cans of condensed milk
                      4 cinnamon and nutmeg to taste
                      This is all whipped in a blender (first an egg), then it is cooled - and it makes a great hangover! You can still stack good rum (not vodyary - the outlet pressure will exceed the critical value wassat ). If a hangover and a fever coincided, it's just ideal! (Tried more than once).
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 11: 52
                        +6
                        In such cases, I prefer Armenian khash, a spicy meat stew. The recipe, for ignorance I will not give, but the "delay" is wonderful!
                      2. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 11: 55
                        +3
                        In the heat, spicy meat soup, and with a hangover ... So you can grunt wassat Okroshka or cold shields, yes.
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 12: 04
                        +5
                        Where is Peter and where is the heat? Although, in recent years, as they say, the summer weather on the coast of the Marquise Puddle is approaching that of the English Riviera.
                      4. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 12: 09
                        +6
                        In London, there are (rarely, true) days that are quite hot - at this time you are supposed to drink sangria in the shade, or gin and tonic from a jug with a bunch of all kinds of frkuts-vegetables (fresh cucumber is irreplaceable) and measuredly carry all sorts of nonsense about politics drinks
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 12: 12
                        +6
                        "The humble charm of the bourgeoisie" (C) laughing
                      6. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 12: 21
                        +3
                        Working class, East London drinks !!!
                      7. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 12: 27
                        +4
                        To be honest, I have a poor idea of ​​the geography of modern London. Much worse than the end of Victorianism. Especially on the basis of social stratification request
                      8. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 12: 32
                        +4
                        The east of the city hasn't changed much since Victorian times laughing ... These are areas, so to speak, average, workers. Englishmen of the old leaven live, whom they beat with truncheons for strikes during Maggie's time, young people live while saving up for housing somewhere better and more prestigious, Poles are ubiquitous, people of color, where without them. And my wife and I. fellow
                      9. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Kote Pan Kokhanka 13 March 2021 13: 25
                        +3
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And since we are talking about BLM, here is their hangover treatment technology (Jamaican)


                        Better pickle straight from a jar of pickled cucumbers !!!
                      10. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 13: 35
                        +3
                        That's yes .. The British recommend Bloody Mary, it also works well.
                    2. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 15
                      +3
                      The east of the city hasn't changed much since Victorian times
                      East End?
                    3. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 14: 22
                      +3
                      No, of course it has changed yes ... The East End is now a predominantly Pakistani ghetto. I'm rather in the northeast - 'Stow.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 March 2021 11: 26
    +5
    It seems from 110 rubles, but not for half a liter, and not for a pint, but for 0,45 liters. And with nitrogen for 200. more precisely above 200. And I would like "Zhigulevsky", the one from a barrel, amber in color.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 11: 33
      +3
      And I would like "Zhigulevsky", the one from the barrel
      Find a mad scientist and pay him to build a time machine. Otherwise, alas, no way sad ... I, too, would drink that same kvass from a yellow barrel in August in the afternoon in the park with joy. (I was not supposed to have beer in those days sad therefore there is nothing to say for him)
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 13 March 2021 11: 53
        +5
        By the way, we sometimes sell liquid "kvass wort concentrate". I once bought two 5 liter bottles of beer for him. For five liters a bag of concentrate, 300-350 gamma sugar and a little yeast. You can add heels of raisins, seal the bubble. After a day, enjoy the drink, only in the freezer you need to cool it almost to freezing, it becomes carbonated strongly. The taste is almost like in childhood. good
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 12: 00
          +2
          I have to add Lithuanian bottle kvass (of average quality - this is the Lithuanian masters in the beer, and their kvass is a C grade), which is sold by an Armenian in a Russian store at the crossroads sad ... You cannot buy anything from Russia via the Internet.
          1. Igool
            Igool 14 March 2021 17: 40
            +1
            By the way, Guinness, if you drink not bottled or canned, but fresh in a pub, has such a weak taste of kvass. Exactly the same Soviet kvass
          2. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 14 March 2021 17: 51
            -1
            There is a little, but very distantly, as for me.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 13 March 2021 12: 10
    +4
    By the way, tomorrow I will meet with a regular customer, the owner of beer restaurants, if you are interested, I can take a picture and send the price list.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 13 March 2021 12: 14
      +3
      I will be very grateful! Several years ago, I myself worked here on this topic (though I ran away quickly, the business was am bad employer). And from which countries does the import to Russia come? And what varieties are held in high esteem? Thank you in advance.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 12: 20
        +4
        In this particular case, mainly Germany (restaurants are positioned as German), however, you will see the assortment for yourself. Only, please, throw off your e-mail in PM, because in this very PM to place images, that is still an adventure.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 13 March 2021 08: 20
    +12
    An interesting description of "elemental" ..
    “The creature was the size of a sheep, thin, emaciated and in places translucent. His face was human, or, to be more precise, inhuman, in its abomination, with big black holes instead of eyes
    and further in the text ..
    Its shiny
    eyes
    looked incredibly dirty and oozed pus

    What is called fear has big eyes laughing
    1. sivuch
      sivuch 13 March 2021 08: 43
      +6
      Sorry, did not notice
    2. kalibr
      13 March 2021 09: 29
      +6
      Quote: Svarog
      What is called fear has big eyes

      Didn't even notice. Translated, edited and forward.
  • WHAT IS
    WHAT IS 13 March 2021 08: 23
    +15
    Thanks to the author for a fascinating tour of Lip Castle!
  • sivuch
    sivuch 13 March 2021 08: 43
    +6
    Strange elemental - first it is said that there are black holes instead of eyes, and then - that the eyes shine. Already the horror takes
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 13 March 2021 09: 06
    +7
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    A funny example of paired cases. Several days ago I was asked to tell about the Petersburg ghosts.
    1. kalibr
      13 March 2021 09: 27
      +5
      So write, Anton, but consult with me, and I will tell you an interesting option ...
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 09: 40
        +5
        Thanks, I'll think about it. The topic is too "fake". It is one thing to tell city stories, and another to publish them officially.
        1. kalibr
          13 March 2021 10: 56
          +4
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          It is one thing to tell city stories, and another to publish them officially.

          Anton, depending on where, depending on where! And I know a good place ...
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 10: 57
            +3
            Intrigued!
          2. Astra wild2
            Astra wild2 13 March 2021 18: 03
            +1
            On our website
            1. kalibr
              13 March 2021 19: 07
              +1
              Quote: Astra wild2
              On our website

              No, Astra. You won't guess ...
              1. Astra wild2
                Astra wild2 13 March 2021 19: 14
                +2
                I was hoping to read something romantic about: "Peter's creation." Means no luck
        2. Van 16
          Van 16 13 March 2021 10: 56
          +3
          The topic "Ghosts of St. Petersburg" is very broad and interesting. Sindalovsky has several interesting books. Write your article and your version, I think it will be extremely interesting.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 11: 02
            +4
            Ivan! hi
            This is all good, but there are still a lot of topics that are most interesting for me, which are extremely poorly covered in historical science. The field is not plowed!
            1. Van 16
              Van 16 13 March 2021 11: 09
              +4
              Without a doubt, it's up to you to decide. But it was necessary to hint smile hi
        3. Korsar4
          Korsar4 13 March 2021 13: 07
          +3
          And Freken Bock's example is not inspiring? Maybe there is something spicy and edible?
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 30
            +5
            There is. "Fontanka.ru"
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 13 March 2021 14: 36
              +4
              Are journalists forced to eat the newspaper?
    2. BAI
      BAI 13 March 2021 21: 49
      +2
      I was asked to tell about the Petersburg ghosts.

      Peter?
      Mikhailovsky Palace in St. Petersburg
      Paul I is one of the most mysterious and controversial rulers of the Russian Empire. He ruled the country for 4 years, 4 months and 5 days, and on the night of March 12, 1801, he was killed by a group of conspiratorial officers in his private bedroom in the Mikhailovsky Palace. But death did not force Tsar Paul I to leave his beloved castle, and his ghost wanders through the galleries and rooms of the magnificent building for more than 200 years.
      The employees of the Mikhailovsky Museum are used to the ghost neighborhood. Hearing the sound of footsteps, or the creak of the parquet floor and feeling a light cool breeze in a closed room, they quietly say "Hello, Your Majesty." And some of the workers of the castle-museum claim that they not only heard, but also saw the ghost of Paul I. He looked the same as in the paintings: of medium height, in a cocked hat, jacket and jackboots.
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 13 March 2021 09: 45
    +3
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you very much for your story. I hope they will continue to be like that?
    1. kalibr
      13 March 2021 10: 56
      +4
      About castles - yes, but I don't promise 100% about ghosts ...
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 13 March 2021 16: 30
        +3
        Though without signs, but something exciting, otherwise it will be something like this: castle R. was built in the 12th century, once it was beautiful, but now ...
        1. kalibr
          13 March 2021 17: 01
          +2
          Quote: Astra wild2
          It won't be enough for me

          Is that how I write?
          1. Astra wild2
            Astra wild2 13 March 2021 17: 32
            +2
            It is more interesting to read not just a description of the castle, but also the history of the owners. EVERY old building has its own story!
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 13 March 2021 09: 54
    +5
    at the bottom of which there were sharp iron spikes and ... there were many skeletons! It took as many as three carts to remove all the bones from there. It is believed that at least 150 people died in this pit.


    Judging by the photo, so many bodies could not fit in there, and how high should the thorns be to string 150 bodies onto yourself? And the smells from all this?

    I think that everything was simpler: yes, they fell through, were crippled, and then finished off and taken out into a pit, which could be filled with them.

    How this happened is well shown in the excellent 1971 film. "The last relic" , however, there was no peak in the mine ...
    1. kalibr
      13 March 2021 10: 58
      +6
      Quote: Olgovich
      "The last relic"

      "Don't give in, don't fall into your hands, run child, run child, not knowing evil and truth, not knowing good, not knowing evil ... run, save yourself, good child!"
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 13 March 2021 11: 50
        +7
        Quote: kalibr
        "Don't give in, don't fall into your hands, run child, run child, not knowing evil and truth, not knowing good, not knowing evil ... run, save yourself, good child!"

        .
        ...- We use a person like Ivo Schenkenberg.

        -But he's a robber!

        -Who, Ivo Schenkenberg ?! Yes, a robber ... And a scoundrel !!
        Look for your friends, among your enemies and you will be merciful and invincible
        .


        We repeated this dialogue in every way at school ...

        Delightful Rolan Bykov, a wonderful film, distant youth, yes ...
        1. kalibr
          13 March 2021 15: 14
          +6
          Quote: Olgovich
          We repeated this dialogue in every way at school ...

          And this? "Guys are muzhi-ki!"
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 13 March 2021 17: 28
            +3
            Quote: kalibr
            And this? "Guys are muzhi-ki!"

            A classic for all time! yes

            By the way, this film turned exactly FIFTY years!

            How old and old the actors seemed then ...
      2. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 13 March 2021 16: 33
        +2
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, where does this quote come from?
        1. kalibr
          13 March 2021 16: 57
          +3
          Quote: Astra wild2
          where does this quote come from?

          From a very funny Soviet film with elements of light eroticism, adventures and songs called "The Last Relic". The dagger was very beautiful there, and the monks are also shown very funny. The main "monk" Rolan Bykov is simply incomparable there.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 13 March 2021 19: 09
            +4
            Hi, Vyacheslav! hi
            I have watched this film a hundred times and will watch it again. But our colleague from Tallinn, Alexander, wrote to me that this is a rather famous story in Estonia and is still remembered today.
            Here is a graffiti on the square of modern Tallinn. Gabriel with Agness.



            This is a drawing from the book by E. Bornhee "Prince Gabriel or the last days of the monastery of St. Brigitte", which served as the basis for the film "The Last Relic"
            Gabrielle and Agnes. He has a sword hidden in a stick.



            Maybe it will be useful to you someday. Didn't you come across this book?
            1. ee2100
              ee2100 13 March 2021 21: 18
              +4
              The Last Relic is the best Estonian film ever. The historical component of the novel and its interpretation in the film are very interesting.
              It deserves a separate article.
            2. kalibr
              13 March 2021 21: 36
              +4
              Not. I read as a child in the school library. But at the house itself it is not for sure.
          2. vladcub
            vladcub 13 March 2021 20: 43
            +4
            I remember the dagger. I also saw a flintlock pistol for the first time in that movie.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 13 March 2021 21: 41
              +3
              So the pistol there is also with a wheel lock and in itself is already a relic. smile
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 13 March 2021 17: 30
          +4
          Quote: Astra wild2
          Vyacheslav Olegovich, where does this quote come from?

          there are many famous quotes, I highly recommend looking .. hi
          1. Astra wild2
            Astra wild2 13 March 2021 17: 43
            +2
            I once watched it, but I have already forgotten a little. I remember more: "Servants of the devil"
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 13 March 2021 18: 57
              +3
              Compared to "The Last Relic" - "The Devil's Servants" is a cheap hand-made article, everyone has seen this film too, but no one quotes it, because there is nothing to quote - it is stupid to complete perfection. laughing
              1. Astra wild2
                Astra wild2 13 March 2021 19: 33
                +3
                Perhaps, but I have looked at the "relic" for a long time and do not remember well, but: "servants of the devil" I associate with .... This is personal
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 13 March 2021 19: 39
                  +4
                  Well, everyone has their own perception and their own memory. But Rolan Bykov in this film is so good that you can't really describe it in words - you have to watch it. Review, enjoy. smile

                  1. vladcub
                    vladcub 13 March 2021 20: 40
                    +3
                    I'll look it over in a few days. Now on TV, there is no good TV series, but since we will watch YouTube
                    1. kalibr
                      13 March 2021 21: 38
                      +2
                      Svyatoslav! If you want a sensible series and to rest, watch the Australian TV series The Wizard and its sequel, The Land of the Great Dragon.
                      1. Astra wild2
                        Astra wild2 15 March 2021 13: 49
                        0
                        Vyacheslav Olegovich, the girls were delighted with the castle and additions
                        They asked to convey: let's have more materials with romance.
                        And who "bumped" about the castle, it's about starting
                      2. kalibr
                        15 March 2021 18: 25
                        0
                        Quote: Astra wild2
                        And who "bumped" about the castle, it's about starting

                        This is understandable, dear Astra. As old as the world!
                      3. Astra wild2
                        Astra wild2 15 March 2021 19: 59
                        0
                        Vyacheslav Olegovich, can you count on historical and romantic stories?
                      4. kalibr
                        15 March 2021 20: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: Astra wild2
                        can you count on historical and romantic stories?

                        You can count on. But here's how to weave into one a hedgehog and a snake - a military site, romance and history ... You are asking me a problem!
                      5. Astra wild2
                        Astra wild2 16 March 2021 11: 58
                        +1
                        Who else to ask? Who has love and knowledge of history + bright style, you or my cat?
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 13 March 2021 10: 05
    +5
    Hello. Generally, educated people first greet, but Vyacheslav Olegovich has such a supply.
  • depressant
    depressant 13 March 2021 10: 23
    +7
    There are many varieties of ghosts. One of the varieties is the so-called "crisis vision". This is when a person - in a dream or in reality - is the ghost of someone who is currently dying a natural, or violent death and by his appearance, or by signs he makes it clear that he is dying and departs into another world.
    Once I had to face this phenomenon. This is an indescribable state of mental pain that you will not wish on anyone, and the subsequent documentary confirmation only intensifies it.
    The peculiarity of the phenomenon is that it remains with a person for life, until the end, and time does not heal.
    1. Mihaylov
      Mihaylov 13 March 2021 12: 19
      +4
      Until recently, ghosts could be seen on the southern coast of Crete in the Frangokastello fortress. During one of the last uprisings against the Turks in the second half of the XIX century, the rebels locked themselves in the fortress, they refused to surrender to the Turks and all died (if I'm not mistaken - 175 people). And now every year on this day in May at dawn the ghosts of these dead - the Drosselites (people of the morning dew) come out on horseback from the fortress and go into the sea.
      Locals say that the Germans were very frightened during the war. Naturally, all the locals saw them. I asked the guide what day this event takes place. To which the aunt's eyes widened terribly and said that in no case do not go, it is very scary, she saw it once and did not want to.
      Then he got into a conversation near the fortress with his aunt at the cash register, asked her about the Drosselites, she said that she herself had not seen them, now they are no longer there, there were too many people, and her father saw them.
      Here's a ghost story. hi
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 53
        +5
        Shpakovsky had material about this fortress.
        1. Mihaylov
          Mihaylov 13 March 2021 15: 33
          +3
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Shpakovsky had material about this fortress.

          Didn't know that, Anton. hi
          Near it there is a wonderful sandy beach, which is especially good in autumn, and next to it is a tavern with good food. If after the "era of coronavirus" you are "brought" to Crete, be sure to visit. bully
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 15: 38
            +4
            "There are so many places in the world where I have never been" (C)
          2. kalibr
            13 March 2021 16: 58
            +3
            My daughter was there. The place is indeed very remarkable. Although there is nothing interesting in the fortress itself. Four walls and that's it.
            1. Mihaylov
              Mihaylov 13 March 2021 19: 13
              +2
              Quote: kalibr
              The place is indeed very remarkable. Although there is nothing interesting in the fortress itself. Four walls and that's it.

              This is so, there are thousands of such fortresses, and this is remarkable ghosts... am
              1. bubalik
                bubalik 13 March 2021 19: 21
                +4
                Sir, I have to ask you to lubricate your chains in the future. Their clanging prevents us from sleeping. (C) laughing
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 13 March 2021 12: 01
    +1
    Well, if you remember that the overwhelming majority of the Irish believe in fairies in all seriousness, then it is surprising that they wrote little
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 13 March 2021 20: 10
      +1
      Banshee is a harbinger of death. Morgana is a fairy living in a constantly changing castle, well, you probably remember about Fata Morgana. Brigita is also some kind of goddess, but she is revered as a saint. Kylekh is the goddess of winter, storms and blizzards, such a harmful grandmother. Kaet is a beautiful fairy, a maiden is a swan. And so on.
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 13 March 2021 12: 44
    +5
    There is a series of computer games called "Black Mirror". When my son was seven or eight years old, the whole family played in the evenings. There, the main character wanders around the castle, solving its riddles and finally defeats an evil ghost who has been entrenched there for a century, that way, since the thirteenth. Somehow the scenery of this castle reminded me of this game.
    The game, in general, is good, for a team of two parents and an elementary school child, it is quite suitable.
    As for ghosts, there are two main theories of their origin.
    According to the first, they are "prints" on inanimate objects of a person's psychic energy released in stressful situations. Therefore, they are, as they say, "tied" to a specific object. The stronger the surge of this energy, the clearer the ghost and the more people can see it. The world is generally full of ghosts, they are everywhere, just weak and most of them are not able to see. In short, these are not restless souls, but a purely physical phenomenon. smile
    Only, please, don't ask me what "psychic energy" is, how you can measure it, and so on. There are no such devices, they have not been invented yet, but this does not mean that there is no energy. Look, Gumilyov with his "ray of passionarity" many people take seriously, why is this theory worse? smile
    Also, do not ask how the ability of a person to capture the emissions of this energy is measured, how they are transmitted and whether they can be developed in oneself. Researchers differ on this issue.
    The second theory tells us about breakthroughs from the noosphere - the informational shell of the earth. That is, ghosts are just information that broke through the protective layer of the noosphere and reached the surface of the planet. The most powerful breakthroughs generate phenomena such as chronomirages. The reasons for such breakthroughs and their characteristics are not currently investigated due to the lack, again, of devices that could record them, but according to some hypotheses, the death of a person generates an outflow of information contained in his brain into the noosphere, which absorbs this information, includes yourself. If a large number of people die at the same time, then the noosphere is forced to absorb a very large amount of information, and this depletes its protective layer, in a given place, so-called "reverse breakthroughs" become possible. We will invent devices - we will begin to study this topic intensively. Again, I return you to Gumilyov - is it okay for him, but not for the rest?
    1. depressant
      depressant 13 March 2021 13: 08
      +3
      Misha, fundamentally! )))
      Don't you think that the ability to see a ghost is explained by the increasing level of mental destabilization of the population during the crisis periods of history? Sustained fear breeds horror with a consequent imbalance in the brain's ability to adequately assess visual, auditory, and tactile sensations. A person sees what is not, hears, perceives what is absent. Either the brain begins to translate infrasound into the sound range - this is the ability to cut through.
      1. Trilobite Master
        Trilobite Master 13 March 2021 13: 50
        +4
        I don’t know, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. smile
        Seriously speaking, I am extremely skeptical about this labudistics - ghosts, ghosts and the like seem to me to be complete nonsense. I try to think rationally. But it is precisely from the point of view of rationality that it is impossible to refute the existence of all these phenomena, just as it is impossible to refute the existence of, for example, God.
        I myself have not seen any ghosts. But people have seen, in any case, they say that they have seen. There is no other evidence that ghosts do not exist, it is impossible to catch them, fix and study them. Does this mean that we should not trust eyewitness testimonies, considering them either fantasies or a consequence of mental disorder, hypnosis, suggestion, etc.? It is necessary to analyze each specific case. request
        What do we know about time, space, energy? Is it much more than our prehistoric ancestors knew, if we take our knowledge on the scale of the entire complex of possible knowledge about these objects?
        In short, you can fantasize about this topic, it's funny and exciting. In general, on the weekend you can do this with a clear conscience, to which I tried to call my colleagues with my comment. For jokes and fun. smile
        But to talk seriously - thank you.
        1. depressant
          depressant 13 March 2021 14: 16
          +7
          Okay! Let's not think seriously wassat ))))
          Tell me, are there ghosts in this castle?
          - Everyone says like that! But as luck would have it, I never saw a single ghost! AND
          I live here - no more, no less, eight hundred years!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 40
            +7
            Not without it...
            1. Astra wild2
              Astra wild2 13 March 2021 17: 57
              +2
              Anton, Prince Gary is coming out, didn't you just flee to America with your wife?
          2. Trilobite Master
            Trilobite Master 13 March 2021 15: 41
            +2
            On the site of the castle itself there is a section dedicated to the elemental. I read it, giggled. Google gives, in general, a tolerable, although not always harmonious translation. smile
            http://leapcastle.net/?page_id=41
            There is also a description of this "sheep" with incomprehensible eyes, there is another - clearly anthropomorphic form.
            I saw you looking at something above our heads, and the next minute my own eyes were filled with the sight of something in the gallery looking down at us. Lamps were burning in the hall, one of which hung on the wall in the corner of the gallery, and each of us clearly saw a gray figure, which was as tall as a small adult and looked down at us. It's a pity that I can never forget this gray figure with dark spots, like holes in the head instead of eyes, standing with gray hands folded on the railing of the gallery and looking down at us ............ ............ then, as soon as he stepped onto the gallery, what he saw there, what we observed, suddenly disappeared from sight. The creature did not move, it only became less and less visible until it disappeared.

            In short, who is in that much. smile To be honest, I was too lazy to correct the translation, I copied it as Google translated it, but, in general, everything is, in principle, readable. The text speaks specifically about "arms" and "legs" ("arm" and "foot"), that is, as they would say about a person.
            A gray man of short stature, capable of dissolving into the air, looking down and terrifying ...
            Putin?
            laughing
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 43
        +4
        Don't you think that the ability to see a ghost is explained by the increasing level of mental destabilization of the population during the crisis periods of history?
        The Plague Maiden is a good example.
        1. depressant
          depressant 13 March 2021 14: 46
          +4
          Pestilence Maiden?)))
          What is this?
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 13 March 2021 14: 50
            +4
            A huge ghost of a woman with a dead baby in her arms was observed many times in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance. A harbinger of epidemics and wars.
            1. depressant
              depressant 13 March 2021 15: 24
              +4
              I managed to go through the sources. Only in the drawing (the drawing is scary - a black figure against the background of a gloomy sunset) is not a baby in her arms, but a scythe. However, one does not exclude the other.
              The dictionary of Slavic mythology (Grushko E.A., Medvedev Yu.M.) tells that, appearing in the village, she goes around the house, sticks her hand through the window or door and waves a red handkerchief, casting a deadly infection on the owners and households.
              When she appears, the inhabitants lock themselves in their huts, do not open any windows or doors, and only a complete lack of supplies and hunger make them break this precaution.
              In the old years there was a gentry; deciding to sacrifice himself for the common good, he took a saber and sat down by a deliberately open window; as soon as the Pestilence maiden stretched out her hand through the window, the nobleman struck with a saber And cut off her wrist. He himself died, and his family also died, but since then the disease has not been shown in this area.

              A similar legend has survived in the memory of the Russian people: a brave Cossack chopped off the hand of a witch, who acted as destructively as the Pestilence Maiden; at dead midnight she appeared, all in white, opened the window of the hut, thrust her hand with the sprinkler and began to sprinkle in different directions, and by morning the whole family was dying out ...

              But people understood intuitively how the disease spreads - by a contact method!

              However, from the topic of ghosts, this somehow does not well lead to the present, where there are no ghosts, and the Plague Maiden walks around the cities and villages with impunity. And therefore the fun Misha wanted is reduced to a feast during the plague.
              We ought to turn the feast into a fun feast like "We don't care, but we don't care ..."
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 13 March 2021 15: 36
                +4
                People understood intuitively
                This is not intuitive, this is a centuries-old experience of coexisting with fatal diseases and traditional medicine. Which, by the way, was completely destroyed in Europe with the development of universities.
            2. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master 13 March 2021 15: 54
              +2
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              A huge ghost of a woman with a dead baby in her arms, was observed many times in the Middle Ages

              How not to remember about Polotsk and its ghostly horsemen.
              The Hypatian Chronicle:
              In summer 6600. Polotsk was wonderfully quick to dream: be in the night tut, stand on the streets, like a human being. If anyone crawls out of the horomina, although you see, the abye will be invisible from the gods with an ulcer, and from that I will die, and I will not crawl out in unison. By seven, it was begun in the day to appear on horses, and it was not for them to see the hooves, but their horse to see the hooves; and taco to the stinging people weed and his area. Darkness and humanity to the verb: yako navye beat Polotsk. Behold, the poch's sign was from the deyutsk

              smile
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 13 March 2021 15: 58
                +4
                Well, purely Nazguls!
                1. depressant
                  depressant 13 March 2021 16: 13
                  +6
                  In short, ghosts are walking around the forum and knocking down my phone.
                  I can’t copy any more. Shows only "Select All".
                  Why am I so sure that this is not a website, but the phone is buggy? For three days it has been extinguished, the black screen, the inscription Samsung, will rest a little and, trembling with the screen, plows further.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 13 March 2021 16: 16
                    +4
                    Oh, Lyudmila Yakovlevna ...
                    Only gremlins can affect the technosphere.
                  2. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 13 March 2021 18: 54
                    +3
                    Are your watercolor paints missing?
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 13 March 2021 18: 56
                      +4
                      No, watercolor stains were and are.
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 13 March 2021 19: 07
                        +3
                        Then you are treated kindly. What year was your house built? Have you hunted deer nearby?
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 13 March 2021 19: 32
                        +4
                        The house was built in 1987. They didn't hunt deer here, because this is a former academic town, scientists were hardly hunters.
                        Well, I answered as a teacher at school, and I understand that these questions are wiring))))
                      3. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 13 March 2021 19: 36
                        +3
                        For what? Elks are frequent guests in the Moscow region. The deer that I came across are concentrated near the Losiny Ostrov biological station.

                        What military secret could he find out, and how to use it?
                        And there are not so few science cities in the Moscow region.
                      4. depressant
                        depressant 13 March 2021 20: 33
                        +3
                        And why did they ask about the year my Khrushchev was built? )))) We didn't have any elks here. There were cows, they were herded between houses - it was, it was gone. Hehe! )))
                      5. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 13 March 2021 21: 18
                        +2
                        Are there no forests nearby?
                        Cows were everywhere. Even such sections were introduced into textbooks: Cattle grazing in the forest.

                        As for Khrushchev. And so I assumed that you are unlikely to live in the Sheremetyev palace.

                        However, since 1987, the period is sufficient for someone to start.

                        Do cats visit you?
                      6. depressant
                        depressant 13 March 2021 22: 29
                        +2
                        There are no mice, no cockroaches, and ghosts, as you rightly pointed out, it's time to appear, and they are right there! Subspecies "ordinary drug addict" ((( laughing )))
                        As for the cats, they are torn, torn to the entrance! But, barely entering, they strive to immediately go out into the street, after looking at me with surprise)))
                      7. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 14 March 2021 00: 36
                        +2
                        There are less likeable "mundane backbones".

                        According to O. Bender, bugs were the most annoying.
    2. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 13 March 2021 16: 25
      +3
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      Well, purely Nazgul

      I thought about that too.
      But what was it really?
      Some kind of pestilence? What disease can resemble something like this in symptoms? An "ulcer" is an open wound, as I understand it.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 13 March 2021 16: 31
        +3
        Smallpox and bubonic plague. But they don't die too quickly. I would suggest a more prosaic version with a criminal character. (Another plot, for Okinf).
        1. depressant
          depressant 13 March 2021 17: 06
          +5
          And, by the way, about the dominance of ghosts in English castles. There is a TV series from 2008, English, about 2 episodes. It tells about the characteristic features of the cuisine of the peoples of Europe, starting with Ancient Rome. So, in the Middle Ages, the pollution of the reservoirs of England was such that instead of water, commoners and the middle class drank beer, and noble gentlemen - wine. Let me note in parentheses that the habit of the noble has survived to this day, and the notorious Chichvarkin, having opened a store in London in 2010 selling rare and extremely expensive wines, is flourishing. But this is so, by the way.
          And since I now do not have a form of copying, I will retell the main idea in my own words.
          In the 17th century in England, they began to use seasonings from tansy, based on the fact that doctors attributed its healing properties to it. Very expensive tansy, available only to the nobility, provoked nightmares, hallucinations and "waking dreams." This led to the appearance of ghosts and ghosts in English castles, and also served as the reason for the emergence of such a literary genre as the Gothic novel - with ghosts and knights.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 13 March 2021 20: 29
            +2
            In the 17th century in England, they began to use seasonings from tansy, based on the fact that doctors attributed its healing properties to it. Very expensive tansy, available only to the nobility, provoked nightmares, hallucinations and "waking dreams."

            I would never have thought that tansy, which grows in every garbage dump in the Moscow region, is a hallucinogen.
          2. depressant
            depressant 13 March 2021 20: 55
            +3
            Don't tell me, colleague! )))
            Tansy is a weed! It's full of it everywhere. I was surprised too. But, given the variety of its types, probably not all of them were suitable for seasoning. And recognized as suitable, satisfying the needs of users, quickly disappeared from the wild, and it was most likely necessary to grow it. And if something becomes a marketable commodity, then the price rises. Moreover, the domesticated culture quickly becomes capricious, requires care, and the price continues to rise. And the peasant thinks: "Yes, I won't eat this dirty trick myself, I'd rather sell it ... with this!"
            However, they eat hot peppers - it would seem!
          3. Undecim
            Undecim 13 March 2021 21: 11
            +4
            Tansy is a weed! It's full of it everywhere. I was surprised too. But, given the variety of its types, probably not all of them were suitable for seasoning.
            Here is which "everywhere", common tansy, and was suitable for seasoning, and for drugs against worms, and as a hallucinogen (contains beta-thujone and thujol).
          4. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 13 March 2021 21: 16
            +3
            However, they eat hot peppers - it would seem!

            As the guys who worked in India told me, spicy local food is a necessary measure to decontaminate food in their, to put it mildly, epidemiological environment.
          5. depressant
            depressant 13 March 2021 22: 41
            +3
            Aha! Taking into account how they, having lowered the corpse into the littered Ganges, are immediately washed in it. In the Ganges, I mean wassat
        2. kalibr
          13 March 2021 21: 40
          +3
          Quote: depressant
          they eat hot peppers - it would seem!

          Don't you eat? The best medicine for heart disease!
        3. depressant
          depressant 13 March 2021 21: 51
          +2
          Eh, Vyacheslav Olegovich, there were times, but gone ... From pepper, the pain in the stomach begins. By the way, it is customary among Abkhazians to use especially spicy adjika - more abruptly than they sell in Russian stores. So, stomach cancer, as far as I remember, and an ulcer of the same organ at one time were a widespread disease in them.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 March 2021 21: 16
    +2
    Madam, tansy, of course, a medicinal herb, was often used as an anthelmintic, as a remedy for miscarriages, as a remedy for flies. Of course, let's say a little and poisonous, but I couldn't even imagine what to catch from her. And why did she become dear, she was all around in bulk. In principle, the cattle eats it, does not die, only here milk can taste bitter in cows. love love love
  • depressant
    depressant 13 March 2021 22: 04
    +1
    You see, colleague, I have already unsubscribed about my surprise, similar to yours, but the directors of the film "Desperate Tasters Go ..." Tom Coveney and Neil Ferguson are English, and one must think that before going out to people with their two-part series in 2008, carefully worked out the issue with the help of local sources of information. And therefore, they, as they say, know better. For some reason I tend to believe them. Perhaps the processing of tansy into a seasoning led to an increase in the concentration of hallucinogens per unit volume of the final product - an unexpected side effect wassat
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 March 2021 20: 58
    +1
    plague, anthrax, smallpox - the time of death of a person after infection is from 5 to 30 days. It's fast, al not very?
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 March 2021 20: 55
    +2
    Anthrax.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 13 March 2021 17: 58
    +3
    It was interesting to read before going to bed. The castle was destroyed so that the besieging troops got as little as possible, but a year later the new (owners) restored the castle (it’s not so good as the former residents destroyed it is called). They found a watch from the first half of the 1800s, actively used the hole and did not bother with a pile of bones, apparently, but what about the smell? How noble and vigorous the amber should be in the room is that, I wonder what the person asking to come closer to the question answered when the sire is bringing that from you?
  • vladcub
    vladcub 13 March 2021 20: 32
    +2
    Quote: Korsar4
    Reading The Forsyte Saga. And you try on yourself.

    Or from childhood: "The home of the piglet must be a fortress!" (from).

    Accidentally not about Naf Nafa conversation? Once in my childhood I had a knzhitsa with bright pictures about "three pigs": Nifnif, Nuf Nuf and Naf naf. I didn’t save it, but now I remember it with such nostalgia.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 13 March 2021 20: 57
      +3
      I recently read it to my children))
      1. depressant
        depressant 13 March 2021 22: 20
        +3
        "Three Little Pigs" - imperishable for all times and for all ages))) drinks good
  • PhilipKDick
    PhilipKDick 14 March 2021 17: 45
    +3
    Very interesting stuff. Thank.