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American media spread a fake about an alleged strike on a hospital in Syria after the demonstration of footage of the use of Iskander OTRK

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As the well-known meme says - “This has never happened, and now again” ... This is how you can describe the publications in the Western media after the demonstration of shots with attacks on terrorists in Syria with the use of the RF Armed Forces by the Iskander OTRK.


Recall that the other day such shots were distributed by the Russian Ministry of Defense in response to criticism of the complexes from the part of Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan. According to the official representative of the Russian defense department, Major General Igor Konashenkov, the Iskander operational-tactical complexes have proven themselves to be excellent, including successfully hitting enemy infrastructure in the Syrian Arab Republic.

After the publication of information that the Iskander OTRK was used by Russia in Syria, the American blogosphere and the press began to take out "skeletons from the closets" and, as they say, shaking off the dust of time, again demonstrate to the general public. So, blogger Nick Waters, who is one of the "investigators" of the notorious supplier of fakes - Bellingcat, referring to social media accounts related to the militants in Syria, posted a tweet with the following content:

By posting a video of the Iskander strike in response to claims of the missile's ineffectiveness, the Defense Ministry appears to have inadvertently demonstrated that it has been targeting hospitals in Syria since 2016.

The topic was immediately picked up by the US media. So, in the military section of The Drive, an article by Joseph Trevithick was published, in which the author writes that Russia allegedly demonstrated footage of striking a hospital in Syria. At the same time, it was stated that the Russian "Iskander" was used against a hospital in the Syrian city of Azaz in the north of the country. Presents footage of the destruction of this hospital 5 years ago.

It is noteworthy that none of the American and Middle Eastern media, distributing yet another anti-Russian fake, reminded their readers that at that time the Turkish army, as part of one of its operations against Kurdish units in Syria, fired at Aazaz, using even large-caliber artillery. At the same time, militants affiliated with the terrorist group Jabhat al-Nusra (banned in the Russian Federation), calling themselves the "Free Army of Syria" ("the Syrian Liberation Army"), began to dominate these territories after intense Turkish attacks.

At the same time, ladies and gentlemen from Bellingcat stubbornly ignore the informational fact that there are hundreds of typical buildings in Syria. In particular, among them, in the same 2016, there were dozens of objects used by the militants of the ISIS terrorist group (banned in Russia). For obvious reasons, attention has not been focused on this, since otherwise that fake will be crumpled, within the framework of which Russia is again being accused of "war crimes".

Noteworthy is the reaction of users (including the Americans themselves) to these tweets from Bellingcat representatives. One - as the clearest illustration of the relationship:

American media spread a fake about an alleged strike on a hospital in Syria after the demonstration of footage of the use of Iskander OTRK


It is clear without words.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 February 2021 08: 02
    -9
    Duc remember exactly, there was such a hospital smashed with broads and thugs, and military personnel from the United States. What news, such a comment. Options? drinks
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 27 February 2021 09: 02
      -6
      It is interesting to re-read the news of those times. Turkey said the Azaz hospital was destroyed by a missile fired by the Caspian fleet. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation seized on an obviously erroneous part and issued a statement that the Caspian fleet was unable to launch ballistic missiles.
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/02/2016/56c339489a794701be3585cd

      At the same time, ladies and gentlemen from Bellingcat stubbornly ignore the informational fact that there are hundreds of typical buildings in Syria.

      The launch footage from the Ministry of Defense shows not only the building, but also the entire area around it; in this case, geolocation is easy.

      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 27 February 2021 10: 04
        -1
        And are there any versions, besides the stupidity of the press service, why the Ministry of Defense was so set up?
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 27 February 2021 11: 27
          +1
          Quote: syndicalist
          And are there any versions, besides the stupidity of the press service, why the Ministry of Defense was so set up?

          It's simple. The bosses issued a command to make a video to "justify" Iskander, the subordinates executed by taking the materials that they had. At the same time, the authorities have no time to think, their business is to distribute instructions with a clever look. And the subordinates did not even know what they were publishing. Building and building, nothing was brought to them.
  2. Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 February 2021 08: 06
    +2
    And what to expect from these mattress freaks?
  3. lucul
    lucul 27 February 2021 08: 09
    -6
    Their female mentality is in all its glory - to be dirty at any cost.
  4. Coconut
    Coconut 27 February 2021 08: 10
    -1
    With such a thing, all the women of the world ... are mine laughing
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 27 February 2021 08: 24
      +2
      Quote: Coco
      With such a thing, all the women of the world ... are mine

      Remember that there is ammunition -two "things "? At least some of the women can be embarrassed, if not more than that - succumb to panic ...
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 February 2021 08: 46
    +2
    At Pashinyan's, they explode by 10%, at these idiots they hit the hospital. Well, what is there to discuss all this nonsense? fellow
  6. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 27 February 2021 08: 54
    +7
    In general, schools, hospitals and weddings are your (American) profile!
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 27 February 2021 10: 51
      +3
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      In general, schools, hospitals and weddings are your (American) profile!

      It would be necessary in return to publish real photos of the cities of Mosul and Cancer after the "liberation" by the coalition forces, after which they resemble a lunar landscape, where the remains of civilians are still being removed from under the ruins.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 27 February 2021 12: 57
        -4
        In Mosul, only one quarter was destroyed in the Old City near
        the main mosque of Shiites, where they flocked
        remnants of ISIS fighters and refused to surrender. The whole block was mined
        ISIS members.
        The rest of the city (huge) is absolutely intact.
        The militants were squeezed out gradually, methodically, which is why the assault took so long.

        Aleppo was destroyed during the assault by Russian and Iranian
        the military is much larger than Mosul.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 27 February 2021 13: 58
          +8
          Your version is contrary to reality. Of the 54 districts of the city, 15 were completely destroyed, 23 partially, 16 slightly. The number of civilian deaths has not yet been established and can amount to tens of thousands. 32 thousand buildings were destroyed. The operation to rebuild the city is estimated as the largest since the Second World War and is estimated by the UN at 1 billion dollars. Before the start of the offensive, 135 buildings were destroyed in the city. The bombing was carried out by the US and coalition aircraft. As for Aleppo, the Russian military did not participate in street fighting, and aviation was limited to a 15 km zone from the outer administrative boundaries of Aleppo. I understand that the mattress is your friend, but the truth is dearer)))
        2. Dart
          Dart 27 February 2021 18: 00
          +3
          he croaked, and into the bushes, and there at least don't dawn ... Alexey, more and more often your posts resemble $ # * @% .. hnyu !!!
    2. Rustic i ......
      Rustic i ...... 27 February 2021 17: 25
      +1
      There is still no test tube with white powder directly from the podium ...
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 27 February 2021 09: 21
    +1
    TIRED !!!
  8. Klingon
    Klingon 27 February 2021 09: 30
    +1
    at all it was not worth answering the attack of the half-witted Pashinyan. Why release videos, to prove something to someone. We could have limited ourselves to saying: according to our information, Iskander-E was not used. that's all.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 27 February 2021 09: 52
      -6
      Quote: Klingon
      according to our information, Iskander-E was not used. that's all.

      The Russian Defense Ministry was twice caught lying.
      1. There was a blow to the hospital. It is not known who was there, but the fact itself was denied.


      2. The Armenians used Iskander-E.


      For all those who cannot determine that this is Iskander after all, and not Tochka-U or Elbrus in general, a screenshot from the video taken from the same angle at different seconds - the picture shows the same launcher that alternately launches missiles. Two rockets. PU Tochka-U has one missile. OTRK Iskander - two.

      The option that this is a TZM - a technical loading vehicle for Tochka-U, which has two missiles - is excluded. Because, of course, it cannot launch launches.

      The people who served on the crew also suggest that the Tochka-U rocket is launched at an angle of 78 ° to the vertical and purely in the direction of the target (in my opinion, 12 ° from the direction), and Iskander has a rocket at the start at 90 °, then turn towards the target ...
      1. Horon
        Horon 27 February 2021 10: 03
        +7
        It is perfectly clear from your comments that you have nothing to do with Russia and that they are all directed against it. In general, you are a mishandled Cossack! negative
        1. Dread
          Dread 27 February 2021 10: 33
          +2
          Horon, you are absolutely right! This is an Internet propagandist who praises the technology of Western countries. And now the posting materials of the "nekhta" channel, banned in Belarus, is trying to spit on the leadership of Russia and the Russians with another lie of the Western countries and the United States!
      2. Klingon
        Klingon 27 February 2021 11: 55
        +4
        okay to hell with her, with the hospital, it is quite possible that there were treated or just there were babakhi. Serves them right. But it was not worth re-showing this video. It is at least unwise. It is clear that there are far from analytical geniuses in the Ministry of Defense. Unfortunately. This is the first thing. second: okay, you can see the Iskander launch: where and when was it launched? maybe this is a video from some exercise, where is the evidence that this is a launch in Azerbaijan? and even if so, what is the technical condition of the complex
        how did the Armenians serve him? smeared with adjika?
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 27 February 2021 12: 05
          -5
          Quote: Klingon
          It's stupid at least. It is clear that there are far from analytical geniuses in the Ministry of Defense. Unfortunately.

          +1
          Quote: Klingon
          well, you can see the Iskander launch

          Time, geography, comments - everything speaks about the reality of the video. Azerbaijan also said that there were strikes during the war. True, Aliyev now denies.
          Pashinyan's words about the Iskander not exploded are nonsense. Iskander is an extremely effective system, which can be safely called the best in the class.
      3. Oleg Monarchist
        Oleg Monarchist 27 February 2021 12: 23
        -1
        OgnennyiKotik

        according to our information, Iskander-E was not used. that's all.

        The Russian Defense Ministry was twice caught lying.
        2. The Armenians used Iskander-E.

        For all those who cannot determine that this is Iskander after all, and not Tochka-U or Elbrus in general, a screenshot from the video taken from the same angle at different seconds - the picture shows the same launcher that alternately launches missiles. Two rockets. PU Tochka-U has one missile. OTRK Iskander - two.


        OTRK "Iskander-E" (export version, which is in service with Armenia) has - ONE missile !!!
        Two missiles have "M" and "K" - are in service exclusively with the Russian army. Armenians or anyone else does not have them.

        The Russian Defense Ministry was twice caught lying.
        2. The Armenians used Iskander-E.


        But Azerbaijani President Aliyev thinks differently, or would you say that he is also lying? laughing

        “We have not seen the launch of the Iskander missile. Therefore, when the statement was announced yesterday, we asked again, but no - we did not see it. This is just another blunder, of which there have already been many in public, ”he said. Aliyev added that he would not like to be ironic on this topic. “There were enough comments among Russian officials, members of the Russian parliament and experts that the rocket had to try very hard to explode by 10%,” he said.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 27 February 2021 12: 31
          0
          Quote: Oleg Monarchist
          OTRK "Iskander-E" (export version, which is in service with Armenia) has - ONE missile !!!

          Already wrote below. I will duplicate:
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik

          Alas, but you came up with it.
          Here are the official websites of Iskander-E manufacturers and suppliers. Everywhere it is written about 2 missiles.
          https://roe.ru/catalog/sukhoputnye-vosyka/raketnye-kompleksy-rszo-ptrk-i-orudiya-polevoy-artillerii/iskander-e/
          https://www.kbm.ru/ru/production/otrk/37.html
          https://www.npovk.ru/produktsiya/operativno-takticheskie-raketnye-kompleksy-/iskander-e/



          Quote: Oleg Monarchist
          But Azerbaijani President Aliyev thinks differently, or would you say that he is also lying?

          Yes, he’s lying. During the war, they talked about the strikes of the Iskander.
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 27 February 2021 12: 46
              0
              Quote: Oleg Monarchist
              How many missiles?

              How many downloaded, and launched as many. Two rockets does not mean that only two rockets can be loaded and sequentially launched. Nothing prevents you from downloading one and launching it.

              Quote: Oleg Monarchist
              Explain the reason for Aliyev's lies

              The Russian authorities asked. He is no stranger to lying, especially if this lies harms Pashinyan. They despise him.
  9. Bradley
    Bradley 27 February 2021 09: 37
    +8
    Well, in general, this whole thing is easily googled, and you can see from the images that the blow really was on the hospital. And who was there at that time, the question is quite real.
    Our Ministry of Defense denied everything, and now it shows footage of the impact on this hospital.
    Why deny?




    Geolocation (36.573696,37.021193)
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 27 February 2021 10: 09
      0
      It seems like they missed, they hit nearby
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 27 February 2021 10: 18
        +2
        It seems like they missed, they hit nearby

        Yes, not directly to the hospital, but nearby. But I do not envy those who were at the windows.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 27 February 2021 09: 50
    +1
    So in war as in war .... the question of value judgment was ALWAYS !!!
    Now, a targeted attack on us is intensifying due to the absolute merger of the wishes of foreign politicians and the resources of IT giants, whose owners all support it.
    Obviously, if measures are not taken, even in spite of all the costs / losses, then it will be WORSE!
  11. Diverse
    Diverse 27 February 2021 10: 48
    +1
    Bradley (Zema Blisko)
    Today, 09: 37
    Well, in general, this whole thing is easily googled, and you can see from the images that the blow really was on the hospital. And who was there at that time, the question is quite real.

    Quite right. El Murid's blog has a commentary on this event.
    The Syrian opposition has already commented on the publication. The footage of the video contains a plot of a hit on a children's hospital in the city of Azaz in 2016. The fact of shelling this object was previously categorically denied. But today I got on the video of the Ministry of Defense itself.

    You can add these to these pictures.


    "Now, of course, uncomfortable questions may follow, but the military's line is always simple: the enemy slanders."
    1. Bradley
      Bradley 27 February 2021 11: 22
      -1
      “Now, of course, uncomfortable questions may follow, but the military's line is always simple: the enemy slanders.

      So that the Ministry of Defense does not answer now, it will only make it worse. It is better for them to remain silent.
      If they denied it then, but now they posted a video, it means it was.
      But in my opinion, this is quite normal, everyone makes mistakes, we are people too, which means we make mistakes.
      In war, this is the order of things.
      1. Diverse
        Diverse 27 February 2021 11: 41
        -2
        I agree completely. But the puncture, of course, is serious. And I think this article will just more stir up interest in those events, as well as in the blunder about the fact that Armenia did not use Iskander OTRK. With full respect hi
        1. Bradley
          Bradley 27 February 2021 11: 44
          -1
          I agree completely. But the puncture, of course, is serious. And I think this article will just more stir up interest in those events, as well as in the blunder about the fact that Armenia did not use OTRK. With full respect

          I agree with you. hi
  12. Earnest
    Earnest 27 February 2021 11: 14
    -2
    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    2. The Armenians used Iskander-E.

    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
    For all those who cannot determine that this is Iskander after all, and not Tochka-U or Elbrus in general, a screenshot from the video taken from the same angle at different seconds - the picture shows the same launcher that alternately launches missiles. Two rockets. PU Tochka-U has one missile. OTRK Iskander - two.

    For those who have not learned how to cook fakes: The main difference between Iskander-E is ONE missile on the launcher. The second was not, is not and will not be. Two missiles - only at the complex for the RF Armed Forces. Report to the State Department that you did not earn the bonus for the 1st quarter due to low qualifications.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 27 February 2021 11: 26
      +4
      Quote: Earnest
      The main difference between Iskander-E is ONE missile on a launcher.

      Alas, but you came up with it.
      Here are the official websites of Iskander-E manufacturers and suppliers. Everywhere it is written about 2 missiles.
      https://roe.ru/catalog/sukhoputnye-vosyka/raketnye-kompleksy-rszo-ptrk-i-orudiya-polevoy-artillerii/iskander-e/
      https://www.kbm.ru/ru/production/otrk/37.html
      https://www.npovk.ru/produktsiya/operativno-takticheskie-raketnye-kompleksy-/iskander-e/


      1. Earnest
        Earnest 27 February 2021 13: 18
        0
        Oh, you're right! Some ... stuck a second rocket laughing Now he is shooting at the unfortunate Syrian hospitals ... But seriously, in 2014-2016 he was a contractor at the positions of the 92 brigade, I was sure of one rocket on the export version according to the words of the brigade's servicemen.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 27 February 2021 14: 08
      -2
      Quote: Earnest
      For those who have not learned how to cook fakes: The main difference between Iskander-E is ONE missile on the launcher. The second was not, is not and will not be. Two missiles - only at the complex for the RF Armed Forces. Report to the State Department that you did not earn the bonus for the 1st quarter due to low qualifications.

      1) This is the video of the RF Ministry of Defense. Application of Iskander-M. And here, in general, Iskander-E whose only purchaser is Armenia?
      2) Differences between the Iskander-E and the usual in the used warheads (not with nuclear warheads and cassettes) and range.
      3) State Department, bonuses, fakes ... Given the quality of your message, you do not respect yourself.
  13. Odysseus
    Odysseus 27 February 2021 11: 39
    +4
    That is, in the opinion of the author of the article, under the guise of Iskander's strikes, the Ministry of Defense published Turkish artillery strikes? This is a strong excuse smile
    Advice, you just don't have to drown yourself further, and so instead of advertising Iskander, a big scandal turned out.
    In fact, the very publication of this video was a mistake. After all, according to legend, we have been fighting "terrorists" in Syria with the help of cruise and ballistic missiles for 6 years already. What kind of advertising will be for Iskander even if the correct footage is published? Can he destroy the house? This is an initially delusional idea.
    And, of course, besides that, "just don't entrust this case to complete idiots."
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 27 February 2021 12: 37
      -1
      What scandal? Pashinyan's whining? The Azerbaijanis do not even know that they have a non-exploded Iskander shell lying around.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 27 February 2021 13: 41
        0
        Quote: Quadro
        What scandal? Pashinyan's whining? The Azerbaijanis do not even know that they have a non-exploded Iskander shell lying around.

        What are you talking about ? What does Pashinyan have to do with it? The article discusses the video of the RF Ministry of Defense. A scandal with a blow to the hospital, of course.
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 27 February 2021 12: 37
      -4
      Quote: Odyssey
      And, of course, besides that, "just don't entrust this case to complete idiots."

      I would not belittle them so bluntly. It only seems that it is easy to lie flat. But in reality, you can take into account a thousand nuances ideally, but fail in some one underestimated moment, which will pull all the "information special events" into the light of day. This, incidentally, is the main reason why conspiracy theories, although popular in the minds, do not work in reality.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 27 February 2021 13: 56
        0
        Quote: military_cat
        I would not belittle them so bluntly. It only seems that it is easy to lie flat.

        Well I do not know. In theory, what you write is true. In practice, it’s not difficult to guess that you don’t need to publish videos with blows to the hospital yourself. Just guess that there is no need to publish an advertising video on Iskander in Syria at all, because it contradicts the main version - the fight against terrorism is more difficult. Here you need to think a little.
        And here an elementary technical puncture - the bosses from above issued a clever instruction and forgot, the subordinates did it based on the material that they had. Information about the hospital was simply not brought to them.
        PS As for the initial denial of MO, there are no problems here. It is clear that during a civil war, all sides are hitting civilian targets and it is clear that everyone is blaming each other. Our situation here is even better, since the Russian Federation is in Syria at the invitation of the legitimate government.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 27 February 2021 14: 31
          -3
          When all the factors to be taken into account are in front of your eyes, it is easy to decide. When the factors to be taken into account still need to be remembered (in particular, that among the records there is a blow to the hospital five years ago, which it was decided to deny), forgetting something is as easy as washing a flash drive with clothes left in the inner pocket of a windbreaker last fall.
  14. Israel
    Israel 27 February 2021 11: 59
    +3
    This is a gigantic blunder of the Russian Ministry of Defense, much worse than when Putin showed Stone a video footage of American helicopter strikes on a Taliban group in Afghanistan, where everything can be attributed to "crooked" assistants.
    If now Western media wants to promote this story, Russia will have a hard time, there are two key facts, there was a blow to the children's hospital (no one will remember who was there at the time of the blow), the second fact Russia denied this blow. Here you can unleash a whole war crime, and the "evidence" of the RF Ministry of Defense have posted themselves.
  15. musorg
    musorg 27 February 2021 12: 04
    -1
    What the United States can do well is to spread the noodles!
  16. Hermit21
    Hermit21 27 February 2021 13: 38
    -3
    And because of what the commotion? What is the Defense Ministry's fault?
    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 27 February 2021 14: 26
      0
      MO publicly shit. Twice.
      Firstly, it stated that Iskander was not used by Armenia, although it is absolutely certain that this is not the case, for which there is a lot of evidence.
      Secondly, it showed footage of a similar missile system from Syria ... footage of the destruction of a hospital, the fact of the bombing of which the same Ministry of Defense in every possible way denied.
      1. Hermit21
        Hermit21 27 February 2021 15: 46
        0
        Horrible. Those who have been screwed up are Western fakecomets. But, unfortunately for them, these internet sites of yours remember everything:
        https://topcor.ru/18804-rossija-opublikovala-dokazatelstva-svoego-udara-po-bolnice-v-sirii-razvenchivaem-lozh-zapada.html

        And it is not for the creatures who call the blows to the peaceful people "collateral losses" to teach us morality
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 28 February 2021 14: 29
          -2
          I do not know where the respected author of the article was looking at the link, in the Google Earth image from March 2016 you can clearly see the place of the missile hit.

  17. Nestor Vlakhovski
    Nestor Vlakhovski 27 February 2021 14: 23
    0
    What does "American media spread fake" mean?
    If this Russian Defense Ministry itself proudly provided footage of how it worked in a Syrian hospital, and not anyhow, but the very fact of the bombing of which was stubbornly denied for a long time.
    But in general. Such stories demonstrate quite well the real quality of the work of the law enforcement agencies; most people no longer have any questions why they were "hounded and not poisoned."
    1. Hermit21
      Hermit21 27 February 2021 15: 47
      -3
      That's what it means. There was no blow to the current hospital in 2016
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  18. kig
    kig 1 March 2021 06: 38
    +1
    The author, it seems, at the end of his article wanted to say that the Americans do not believe and are mocking Billingcat. However, if you read The Drive in the original, then absolutely all 140+ comments agree that the Russians could have done this. At the same time, they scoff at our Defense Ministry for the wretchedly created refutation.