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An offer that is difficult to refuse: the United States officially offered Poland to buy Abrams tanks

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According to information provided by the Polish Arms Inspection (Inspektorat Uzbrojenia), the US Army has officially offered the Polish Army to buy Tanks M1 "Abrams" according to the FMS procedure. An offer that is difficult to refuse.


In the Wilk program, which has been going on for several years and involves the replacement of the T-72M1 and PT-91 tanks, there have already been many candidates - the German Leopard 2, the Korean K2PL, allegedly negotiations were underway with Italy to build a joint tank based on Ariete or even a promising MGCS.

We can say that it ended with the obvious - another "indisputable offer" of American tanks "Abrams".
While there is no specific information on which version will be proposed to the US under the FMS procedure, some indications point to M1A2 tanks currently no longer produced for the US Army. Therefore, most likely, it will be them. "Tanks from the Desert" - second-hand, for which Poland may have to pay dearly to obtain such equipment. The problem is that such an acquisition will also require additional investments - for example, the purchase of new technical support vehicles, as well as the construction of bridges and transition systems designed for a higher weight. Earlier, the US military themselves, deployed to Poland and the Baltic states, complained that there are few bridges in this region that could withstand the passage of the Abrams convoy.

This would undoubtedly mean the end of the Polish armored weapons industry. But for the modern Polish authorities, the most important thing is that the United States is happy ...
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 February 2021 07: 33
    +7
    And Poland has prepared the infrastructure so that it can travel around its country in an Abrashka. Does it have railway platforms that can withstand its weight?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 February 2021 07: 35
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And Poland has prepared the infrastructure so that it can travel around its country in an Abrashka. Does it have railway platforms that can withstand its weight?
      According to information provided by the Polish Arms Inspection (Inspektorat Uzbrojenia), the US Army has officially offered the Polish Army to buy M1 Abrams tanks under the FMS procedure. An offer that is difficult to refuse.
      Buy a horse and I'll give you a saddle to boot.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 February 2021 07: 40
        +5
        for the modern Polish authorities, the most important thing is that the United States is happy ...


        As in a well-known house - the employee must do everything so that the client is satisfied.

        After all, Poland is called not only "hyena of Europe"...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 27 February 2021 07: 56
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          After all, Poland is called not only the "hyena of Europe" ...

          After all, there are workers from the Square. I have not forgotten that.
          1. GTYCBJYTH2021
            GTYCBJYTH2021 27 February 2021 08: 30
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine

            After all, there are workers from the Square. I have not forgotten that.

            You got pleasure from the workers, right? They did not pay in rubles, zlotys ... And what about the delivery they gave you infections, and not sores, rejoice ...
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 27 February 2021 08: 48
              -1
              Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
              You got pleasure from the workers, right? They did not pay in rubles, zlotys ... And what about the delivery they gave you infections, and not sores, rejoice ...

              "Spool" was called.
              1. GTYCBJYTH2021
                GTYCBJYTH2021 27 February 2021 09: 00
                -1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                You got pleasure from the workers, right? They did not pay in rubles, zlotys ... And what about the delivery they gave you infections, and not sores, rejoice ...

                "Spool" was called.

                Bobbin-detail for a sewing machine ..... good drinks
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 27 February 2021 09: 03
                  0
                  Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                  Bobbin-detail for a sewing machine .....

                  Where the women sewed, there was a "SHPULKA".
                  1. GTYCBJYTH2021
                    GTYCBJYTH2021 27 February 2021 09: 13
                    0
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                    Bobbin-detail for a sewing machine .....

                    Where the women sewed, there was a "SHPULKA".

                    Ha ha ha !!!!!! Be healthy, friend drinks
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 27 February 2021 09: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                      Ha ha ha !!!!!! Be healthy, friend

                      Yes, the store is only at 10.00. opens .;
                      1. GTYCBJYTH2021
                        GTYCBJYTH2021 27 February 2021 09: 29
                        0
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        Ha ha ha !!!!!! Be healthy, friend

                        Yes, the store is only at 10.00. opens .;

                        Surprisingly, shops need to sell goods .... In Krasnoyarsk, a number of shops sell for days ...
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 27 February 2021 09: 38
                        0
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        Surprisingly, shops need to sell goods .... In Krasnoyarsk, a number of shops sell for days ...

                        So I live in Tallinn! The daily subsistence allowance is closed, and the boiler requires fuel. I'll run in an hour and twenty.
                      3. GTYCBJYTH2021
                        GTYCBJYTH2021 27 February 2021 10: 08
                        -1
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        Surprisingly, shops need to sell goods .... In Krasnoyarsk, a number of shops sell for days ...

                        So I live in Tallinn! The daily subsistence allowance is closed, and the boiler requires fuel. I'll run in an hour and twenty.

                        Clear.....
                      4. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 27 February 2021 10: 24
                        0
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        Clear.....

                        There are already 40 minutes left. I'll run.
                      5. GTYCBJYTH2021
                        GTYCBJYTH2021 27 February 2021 20: 40
                        -1
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        Surprisingly, shops need to sell goods .... In Krasnoyarsk, a number of shops sell for days ...

                        So I live in Tallinn! The daily subsistence allowance is closed, and the boiler requires fuel. I'll run in an hour and twenty.

                        Clear.....

                        you heat the hut with coal or by flights (pressed sawdust)
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 27 February 2021 11: 36
                0
                Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                Ha ha ha !!!!!! Be healthy, friend

                Thank you, I already ran, I have 10.45 now.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 February 2021 10: 23
        0
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        You got pleasure from the workers, right? They didn't pay in rubles or zlotys ...

        There are enough of our own, but not for złoty, but for the euro. "Noblemen don't take change from beggars."
        1. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 27 February 2021 20: 55
          -2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          You got pleasure from the workers, right? They didn't pay in rubles or zlotys ...

          There are enough of our own, but not for złoty, but for the euro. "Noblemen don't take change from beggars."

          Estonian, but I am not an enemy to you and to a Lithuanian with a Latvian ..... Everything happened, they shot at each other ...... Muscovites are our enemies ......
          1. Andrey Shiryaev
            Andrey Shiryaev 28 February 2021 18: 02
            0
            And who is this, Muscovites?
  2. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 27 February 2021 09: 45
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    After all, Poland is called not only the "hyena of Europe" ...
    Sarmatia, Scythia, Polonia, Poland, Poland. What about Lenkija, Lengyelország and Lehistan? And why do many Poles call their country completely differently?
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 27 February 2021 12: 45
      +1
      What a pancake Sarmatia and Scythia? They are not even Slavs and have become extinct long ago. They are steppe nomads
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 February 2021 12: 59
        -1
        Quote: Quadro
        What a pancake Sarmatia and Scythia? They are not even Slavs and have become extinct long ago. They are steppe nomads

        I know it.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 27 February 2021 07: 42
    +2
    So after all, a horse and a saddle and feed and a groom are also offered to buy overseas, well if not already by self-pickup from all over the world.
  • oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 27 February 2021 07: 42
    +4
    Merikos distribute their second-hand to loyal vassals. Not free, of course. Psheki, at the same time, are modernizing their road infrastructure. Good money will be spent. And in tenders, the same merikosy will take part and earn a "little thing".
  • figwam
    figwam 27 February 2021 09: 31
    +3
    Recent Polish exercises have shown that in the war with Russia, the Polish army surrenders on the 5th day with the loss of Warsaw, now the United States will arm Poland further.
  • Kaman
    Kaman 27 February 2021 09: 51
    0
    Why not ? They will repair, install the Vetrovka KAZ - it will be what the doctor ordered. Gradually, the Pshek army becomes the most combat-ready in Europe. This is especially evident in contrast to the Bundeswehr.
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 27 February 2021 15: 39
      +1
      If we compare with countries in which there is no army at all, there is only visibility, then the pshek have the most powerful army in the galaxy)))
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 February 2021 16: 32
      -1
      Quote: Kaman

      0
      Why not ? They will repair, install the Vetrovka KAZ - it will be what the doctor ordered.

      Yes, I don’t want KRAZs, not MAZs, but the SA-152 on which my father, Königsberg, stormed.
      1. Constanty
        3 March 2021 20: 33
        0
        I think the SU-152.

        Two of these SPGs are in the museum in Drzonowie, 5 km from me.



        They really make a strong impression, although restoration would be possible - after all, these are rather rare exhibits.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 3 March 2021 21: 02
          0
          Quote: Constanty
          I think the SU-152.

          I didn't finish writing "U", of course SAU-152.
          1. Constanty
            3 March 2021 21: 15
            0
            Well, just not.
            ACS (self-propelled artillery installation) SU-152.

            SU-152 - designation of a specific model. There were also ISU-152 based on the IS tank.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 27 February 2021 10: 42
    -2
    Rather, I will SELL a saddle in addition)
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 27 February 2021 15: 37
    +1
    Yeah, but the saddle, apparently, will be for a cow)))
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 February 2021 07: 56
    +2
    winked What for? The main thing is to drag it to the unit, where it will rot in the boxes.
  • Your stranger
    Your stranger 27 February 2021 08: 23
    +1
    The Polish army is armed with more than 200 leopard tanks of comparable weight to the Abrams,
    Over the past 20 years, tens of thousands of kilometers of new roads have been built in Poland according to eu standards,
    1. Zhenya Khazarsky
      Zhenya Khazarsky 27 February 2021 12: 14
      0
      How much? Tens of thousands of kilometers? Exactly? Straight thousand? I can't believe it)))
      1. Your stranger
        Your stranger 27 February 2021 13: 45
        0
        Investments in Poland from EU funds in 2014-2020 amounted to about PLN 450 billion (EUR 106 billion). This was reported by Radio Poland.

        According to the Ministry of Funds and Regional Policy, until December last year, the country has spent 83% of these funds, and more than 40% reported to the European Commission. For six years, Poland has signed 58 agreements with the European Union for co-financing various projects.

        The head of the Malogozata ministry Jarosińska-Edinak said that investments are being made in the transport sector, research and development projects, and environmental protection programs. And also in support of entrepreneurship.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 27 February 2021 15: 40
          0
          And how much of this has been stolen?))) If we draw analogies with one country in the neighborhood, then more than half)))
        2. Zhenya Khazarsky
          Zhenya Khazarsky 28 February 2021 12: 32
          0
          So, what about the roads?
          1. Your stranger
            Your stranger 28 February 2021 12: 54
            0
            Here's to you about new roads,
            And many times more local roads have been overhauled,
            For Poland, this is a lot, and the road network there is dense and of high quality.
            Od momentu wejścia Polski do Unii Europejskiej, Polacy co roku mogą cieszyć się jazdą nowymi odcinkami dróg krajowych, ekspresowych i autostrad. W latach 2003-2018 szczególnie wzrosła łączna długość tras szybkiego ruchu. Obecnie mamy do dyspozycji 1639 kilometrów autostrad (484 kilometry w 2004) i 1999 kilometrów dróg ekspresowych, czyli ponad 11 razy więcej niż 15 lat temu (wtedy było ich zaledwie 174 kilometry). Nie zapomniano o budowie nowych odcinków dróg krajowych, głównie obwodnic miast: przez 15 lat przybyło 1544 kilometrów tego typu dróg. Łącznie w tym czasie oddano do użytku 4,5 tys. kilometrów nowych tras, co daje 300 kilometrów dróg rocznie, czyli 0,8 kilometra dziennie.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 27 February 2021 08: 40
    +3
    Yes, there are railway platforms with 120 tons of carrying capacity, and we have them, and they have almost all 100 tons of bridges with a carrying capacity, well, perhaps of some special historical value. Yes, and their tanks rarely go under their own power, there are tank trawls, quickly and conveniently.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 27 February 2021 12: 48
      -1
      100 tons almost everything? Do not tell, in Europe there are more rivers than amers' dough. For every seedy river, no one will make such bridges
  • Simargl
    Simargl 27 February 2021 08: 43
    +2
    Quote: tralflot1832
    Does she have railway platforms that can support his weight?
    What is the problem? On one platform there is a tower, on the other - a carcass.
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 27 February 2021 15: 42
      0
      Yeah, and it will be like in a joke about a lieutenant - the commander of a tank corps))) they drank the tower, only the corps remained)))
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 27 February 2021 21: 12
        +1
        Quote: TermNachTER
        and it will be like in a joke about a lieutenant
        How can think is that ?! This is indeed Europeans!!!
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 28 February 2021 13: 18
          +1
          Ha-ha three times))) we saw these gayropeans - they drink like the horse of comrade Budyonny)))
  • smart ass
    smart ass 27 February 2021 11: 48
    +2
    Poles do not need to go ... they just have to buy, and what will they do next?
  • don-1500
    don-1500 27 February 2021 07: 34
    +2
    Look in the new series, Guslik, Janek and Sharik on Abrams laughing
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 27 February 2021 07: 40
      0
      Ava try to remember their names, it will be cool.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 27 February 2021 09: 02
        -1
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Ava try to remember their names, it will be cool.

        Guslik-Pechka, Janek don't remember, dogs don't have surnames. wink
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 27 February 2021 09: 32
          0
          I mean the names of the on-screen characters. In childhood, the first commander Yarosh, mechanized engineer Saakashvili played them. Before the fight, it dawned on who would be who! And now these names cause us persistent dislike.
      2. Constanty
        3 March 2021 20: 39
        +1
        Gustaw Jeleń, Janek Kos, (Gustav Jeleń, Janek Kos) There were also Olgerd Yarosh and Grigory Sakashvili. And Sharik has been one of the most popular dog names in Poland for several decades.

        But the problem with Abrams is that there is always a Negro forklift. And this is not a racist joke - I think it really is
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 27 February 2021 07: 45
    0
    The wedding night. Vanka:
    - Man, are you a girl?
    - Yeah. Over time. Manka:
    - Wan, did you hit?
    - Yes, I kind of got it.
    - Well, tady oh!

    There is also another European version ...
  • venik
    venik 27 February 2021 07: 47
    0
    "....Poland may have to pay dearly .... This undoubtedly means the end of the Polish armored weapons industry.."
    =======
    Well, what can you do! Do you want to be vassal - pay overlord!
  • mvg
    mvg 27 February 2021 07: 53
    +3
    As usual, the news is one-sided, on the one hand. Abrams are inexpensive, 5-6 million. Half the price of Leopards and Panthers. If you do not take SEP3. Used ones will cost even less. Even Egypt has mastered the production of abrashek. Can agree on joint modernization in a thread M1A2PL
    PS: Perhaps the best choice for today.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 27 February 2021 08: 00
      0
      Considering that the Poles are not our closest "friends", this choice is not so bad for us either. laughing
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 27 February 2021 12: 50
      -1
      What the hell is half? K2 costs about 8 Leopards. Leopards are inexpensive, maintenance-wise, and do not eat tons of high-quality fuel. The Egyptian version is a complete muddy, there is not even uranium there.
      1. mvg
        mvg 27 February 2021 13: 06
        0
        Leopard 2A7 is about 10 million, the Panther is also one of the most expensive, the Koreans offered the Poles a lightweight version, without hydraulic suspension and super LMS, and production in Poland. The gas turbine eats everything from kerosene to diesel. Imagine uranium only on American Abrams. The Abrams will be patched up, taking into account the requests of the Poles, and will be sold. Maybe they will build their own factory for maintenance. The Poles did the tanks themselves, and there was something left. The United States has 8-9 thousand Abrams .. it is necessary to do something. Defense tank, but also looked good in attack. Anything will be better than the 72 T-3B2016
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 28 February 2021 06: 22
          -3
          Quote: mvg
          Leopard 2A7 is about 10 million, the Panther is also one of the most expensive, the Koreans offered the Poles a lightweight version, without hydraulic suspension and super LMS, and production in Poland. The gas turbine eats everything from kerosene to diesel. Imagine uranium only on American Abrams. The Abrams will be patched up, taking into account the requests of the Poles, and will be sold. Maybe they will build their own factory for maintenance. The Poles did the tanks themselves, and there was something left. The United States has 8-9 thousand Abrams .. it is necessary to do something. Defense tank, but also looked good in attack. Anything will be better than the 72 T-3B2016

          You probably don't even know that it is only thanks to uranium that Abrashi has such protection. Examine the materiel, the Americans tried to pull up the defense to our + - level without him, but it turned out too big and heavy something. Egyptian abrams are just bullshit in Europe. And yes, in addition to 2a7, you can take 2a6, at least there is not a stump of abrams, and not the first freshness. K2 is the most expensive in the world and costs less than 10 lamas, you bent something from 10 lamas for 2a7. And what the hell does it matter what kind of fuel he eats, if you need high quality and a lot? By the way, this is the same problem with the T-80, only it suits us for the Arctic, and pshekia is generally warm.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 February 2021 20: 14
      +2
      And according to the application - the best choice.
      Abrams is designed to defend against enemy tanks.
      Like a powerful anti-tank SPG.
      No deep raids and infantry support required
      For this, the Poles have hundreds of modernized T-72s.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 February 2021 07: 54
    +4
    Well done USA! Clever girls! Learn from America. And with us, the last will be removed and given to either the "fraternal people" or "fraternal parties." Therefore, we walk forever naked ..... The main thing is "brothers". And the people will "tolerate." (((
  • lucul
    lucul 27 February 2021 08: 07
    +2
    The title photo accurately reflects the situation that awaits Abrasha in the spring-autumn thaw)))
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 27 February 2021 08: 21
      +3
      Given the local climate, this provision will last at least 3/4 of the year.
    2. Your stranger
      Your stranger 27 February 2021 08: 28
      +1
      I'll show you what awaits you and the video
    3. Vadim F
      Vadim F 27 February 2021 21: 04
      0
      what muddy roads? Poland has a dense network of roads, drive as much as you want. in modern warfare, a tank is out of the way and has no need to move.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 27 February 2021 08: 29
    +2
    Well .... well-known story!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 February 2021 08: 33
    +1
    In my opinion, they were not offered officially, but ordered. This will be more accurate and closer to the truth. lol
  • cniza
    cniza 27 February 2021 09: 02
    +2
    some signs point to M1A2 tanks currently no longer being produced for the US Army. Therefore, most likely, it will be them. "Tanks from the Desert" - second-hand, for which Poland may have to pay dearly to obtain such equipment.


    And as they wanted, the owner needs a sales market ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 27 February 2021 09: 38
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      And as they wanted, the owner needs a sales market ...

      And they wanted, as always, "as a gift." They are "the last frontier from the terrible Russia"
      1. cniza
        cniza 27 February 2021 11: 13
        +2
        The penultimate, last Ukraine, and they are also the elders in Eastern Europe - the owner has set, now the "gifts" must be accepted ...
    2. Vadim F
      Vadim F 27 February 2021 21: 06
      0
      not a sales market, but getting rid of unnecessary things.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 27 February 2021 11: 02
    +1
    First of all, this means the dependence of the Poles on their overseas friends. But I have no doubt that the Poles will gladly ditch their industry, in the field of heavy military equipment, to the delight of the United States.
    1. Constanty
      27 February 2021 12: 28
      +1
      I have no doubt that the Poles will gladly ditch their industry


      Proof that this is not the case is, for example, my information. "Abrams" from the desert have been trying to squeeze through for a long time.

      At one time, completely incompetent, but obedient to the "sovereign" from overseas deputy ministers of national defense Kovnatski, and now Skurkevich, were completely incompetent, but submissive to the "sovereign" from overseas, they were careerists without backbone.

      Currently, the Polish authorities are seen in shock and panic after Trump's defeat and are again trying to buy the favor of the United States - at the expense of Polish industry.

      Many Poles, including myself, do not like this.

      And it's not about the state's defense capability - data on the possibility of waging a war in time of 5 days is the peak of optimism, I set a maximum of 3.

      The best solution would be to reorient Poland's policy and seek agreements with its closest neighbor, Russia, rather than relying on an ally from the other side of the world.


      That would not exclude the development of our own industry - and I'm not talking about dreams in the style of "Goryla" - own Polish tank, but at least about a license and obtaining new competencies, profits for the Polish economy and Poles.
      An independent, at least neutral Poland is the best for my Motherland. If it is impossible to remain neutral, it is better to have an ally nearby and an enemy as far away as possible - my authorities do exactly the opposite - which is rather strange, because some of them (including the Prime Minister) are historians and should remember the English guarantees and their operation in 1939.

      Poland and Russia with good neighborly relations will benefit everyone, vassalism towards the United States will lead to disaster, and nothing will help Patriots Himarsa or Abramsa.
      1. Andrey Shiryaev
        Andrey Shiryaev 28 February 2021 18: 15
        0
        Your words, yes to God in the ears, but alas request
        1. Constanty
          28 February 2021 20: 40
          0
          My words express my opinion as a Pole - in particular, me - but also in order to show that the so-called official line of the state is not the opinion of all Poles - and of course I am not alone
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 February 2021 13: 19
    +1
    My congratulations to the Poles.
    additional investments - for example, the purchase of new technical support vehicles, as well as the construction of bridges and transition systems designed for higher weights.
    Why bridges, new roads need to be built, request
    1. Vadim F
      Vadim F 27 February 2021 21: 11
      0
      hmm ... there are wonderful roads in poland, a trawl with a tank is just an ordinary road user. fear for the roads is probably a complex of a Soviet person who has not seen high-quality built roads in his life ..
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 28 February 2021 08: 03
        0
        hmm ... there are wonderful roads in poland,fool Не буди лихо, пока тихо.https://img7.eadaily.com/r650x400/o/656/5037ffbd0d7a7cb3e6fe2963508f9.jpg
        As General Komornitsky notes, "we bought old heavy German tanks intended for disposal, and a foreign manufacturer still makes money on their service, although the domestic manufacturer produced medium tanks."
        Will the American ones be more democratic?
        These maneuvers were carried out in order to familiarize British and American fighters with the Polish terrain. In the course of them, an assessment was made of the condition road cloths in Poland, features of its relief and the length of all routes. However, during the exercise, it was decided not to use the Abrams 1 combat vehicles, since the local roads could not withstand them.
        Source: https://discover24.ru/2020/06/dorogi-v-polshe-ne-sposobny-vyderzhat-amerikanskiy-tank-abrams/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
        And do not shag grandmother.
        1. Vadim F
          Vadim F 28 February 2021 10: 50
          0
          yes yes, sing swallow ... the ground pressure of the Abrams is only 10% more than that of the T-72.
        2. kuzimka
          kuzimka 28 February 2021 18: 06
          0
          Man, did you even go further than the Moscow Ring Road? In Europe, the autobahns will withstand any tanker trailer. It is only in Russia that it is customary to drive tanks on public roads. Or from debility or so that later begging for money to repair these roads ... Although, somehow, normal roads have not worked out so far ...
      2. Alexander Seklitsky
        Alexander Seklitsky 28 February 2021 12: 28
        +1
        Do you need a tank just to carry it on a trawl?
        1. kuzimka
          kuzimka 28 February 2021 18: 20
          -1
          Yes, tanks are transported to the place of concentration or deployment of a tank unit over long distances by railway platform, for short - on trailers along the network of public roads. The resource of the tank is limited and it must be saved to perform a combat mission, and not to wind up the mileage ... This is customary in developed countries, where it is customary to carefully calculate the operating costs of equipment.
  • Growlers
    Growlers 27 February 2021 14: 27
    +1
    Recently there was an advertising campaign at the Dravsko-Pomorskiy training ground, now an offer. Looks like a lot of junk has accumulated in warehouses ...
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 27 February 2021 22: 04
    0
    Quote: tralflot1832
    A proposal that is difficult to refuse.
    Buy a horse and I'll give you a saddle to boot.

    So that you go about my business!
    Class ... tongue
  • Tarasios
    Tarasios 28 February 2021 23: 04
    +1
    Quote: tralflot1832
    And Poland has prepared the infrastructure so that it can travel around its country in an Abrashka. Does it have railway platforms that can withstand its weight?

    I doubt the United States cares about this. And if they don't buy it, the United States will doubt Poland's adherence to "true democratic values", with all the consequences that follow, fall, explode, and so on. Yugoslavia, Libya, etc. can confirm this (some of the most recent and striking examples).
    Money to us, problems to you. Business...
  • dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov 3 March 2021 19: 17
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    [quote some signs point to M1A2 tanks currently no longer being produced for the US Army. [/ quote] You probably don't know, but America doesn't make any Abrams at all.
    1. Constanty
      3 March 2021 20: 55
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      They deeply upgrade several hundred pieces to the M1A2C level (formerly known as M1A2 SEPv3).
      Simply with the current modernization and with the so-called After the "reset" of the resource, they are considered new.

      Likewise, in the article on the supply of the BTR-82, I read about the new 460 vehicles, although most of them are modernizations of the existing BTR-80.